Discourse on Purgatory: INTRODUCTION: Does it exist or is it a myth? Let's examine the facts.

In doing so we will first examine the Catholic Doctrine [RCC] on same as follows: EXERT FROM THE CATHOLIC ENCYCLOPEDIA: "Purgatory (Lat., "purgare", to make clean, to purify) in accordance with Catholic teaching is a place or condition of temporal punishment for those who, departing this life in God's grace, are, not entirely free from venial faults, or have not fully paid the satisfaction due to their transgressions. The faith of the Church concerning purgatory is clearly expressed in the Decree of Union drawn up by the Council of Florence (Mansi, t. XXXI, col. 1031), and in the decree of the Council of Trent which (Sess. XXV) defined: "Whereas the Catholic Church, instructed by the Holy Ghost, has from the Sacred Scriptures and the ancient tradition of the Fathers taught in Councils and very recently in this Ecumenical synod (Sess. VI, cap. XXX; Sess. XXII cap.ii, iii) that there is a purgatory, and that the souls therein are helped by the suffrages of the faithful, but principally by the acceptable Sacrifice of the Altar; the Holy Synod enjoins on the Bishops that they diligently endeavor to have the sound doctrine of the Fathers in Councils regarding purgatory everywhere taught and preached, held and believed by the faithful" (Denzinger, "Enchiridon", 983). Further than this the definitions of the Church do not go, but the tradition of the Fathers and the Schoolmen must be consulted to explain the teachings of the councils, and to make clear the belief and the practices of the faithful. Temporal Punishment That temporal punishment is due to sin, even after the sin itself has been pardoned by God, is clearly the teaching of Scripture. God indeed brought man out of his first disobedience and gave him power to govern all things (Wis. x, 2), but still condemned him "to eat his bread in the sweat of his brow" until he returned unto dust. God forgave the incredulity of Moses and Aaron, but in punishment kept them from the "land of promise" (Num., xx, 12). The Lord took away the sin of David, but the life of the child was forfeited because David had made God's enemies blaspheme His Holy Name (II Kings, xii, 13, 14). In the New Testament as well as in the Old, almsgiving and fasting, and in general penitential acts are the real fruits of repentance (Matt., iii, 8; Luke, xvii, 3; iii, 3). The whole penitential system of the Church testifies that the voluntary assumption of penitential works has always been part of true repentance That temporal punishment is due to sin, even after the sin itself has been pardoned by God, is clearly the teaching of Scripture. God indeed brought man out of his first disobedience and gave him power to govern all things (Wis. x, 2), but still condemned Venial Sins All sins are not equal before God, nor dare anyone assert that the daily faults of human frailty will be punished with the same severity that is meted out to serious violation of God's law. On the other hand whosoever comes into God's presence must be perfectly perfectly pure for in the strictest sense His "eyes are too pure, to behold evil" (Hab., i, 13). For unrepented venial faults for the payment of temporal

punishment due to sin at time of death, the Church has always taught the doctrine of purgatory. So deep was this belief ingrained in our common humanity that it was accepted by the Jews, and in at least a shadowy way by the pagans, long before the coming of Christianity. ("Aeneid," VI, 735 sq.; Sophocles, "Antigone," 450 sq.)." [source = Catholic Encyclopedia] WHAT THE BIBLE SAYS: Now let's look at what the Bible has to say on the subject. Interestingly at Psalms 145:4, "His spirit shall go forth, and he shall return into his earth: in that day all their thoughts shall perish." (Douay-Rheims Catholic Bible; DRCB); Now if this is the case, how can the souls that are "therein detained be aided by the suffrages of the faithful and principally by the acceptable sacrifice of the alter....It is the common teaching of Catholic theologians that (1) indulgences may be applied to the sourls detained in purgatory; and (2) that indulgences are available for them by way of suffrage." [source = "The Catholic Encyclopedia, NY 1911, Vol XII, pages 575, 578, 579]. And how would this concept of purgatory as put forth by the RCC harmonize with Romans 6:23, "For the wages of sin is death. But the grace of God, life everlasting in Christ Jesus our Lord." (DRCB)? Or with Job 3:17, "There the wicked cease from tumult, and there the wearied in strength are at rest." (DRCB)? Nor would this doctrine harmonize with Ezekiel 14:4, "Behold all souls are mine: as the soul of the father, so also the soul of the son is mine: the soul that sinneth, the same shall die." (DRCB) which clearly shows only two possible states. Or James 5:20, "He must know that he who causeth a sinner to be converted from the error of his way shall save his soul from death and shall cover a multitude of sins." (DRCB) which clearly does not recognize the existence of an 'in-between place;' as neither does Josue 10:32-37, "And the Lord delivered Lachis into the hands of Israel, and he took it the following day, and put it to the sword, and every soul that was in it, as he had done to Lebna. 33 At that time Horam, king of Gazer, came up to succour Lachis: and Josue slew him with all his people so as to leave none alive. 34 And he passed from Lachis to Eglon, and surrounded it, 35 And took it the same day: and put to the sword all the souls that were in it, according to all that he had done to Lachis. 36 He went up also with all Israel from Eglon to Hebron, and fought against it: 37 Took it, and destroyed it with the edge of the sword: the king also thereof, and all the towns of that country, and all the souls that dwelt in it: he left not therein any remains: as he had done to Eglon, so did he also to Hebron, putting to the sword all that he found in it." (DRCB). HOW SIN IS CLEANSED: The Bible clearly shows sin is NOT cleansed through payment of indulgences to release someone from Purgatory; this is clearly shown at 1 John 1:7-9, "But if we walk in the light, as he also is in the light, we have fellowship one with another: And the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin. 8 If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves and the truth is not in us. 9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just, to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all iniquity (DRCB) which shows that sin is forgiven, not by the payment of indulgences, but on the basis of the shed blood of Jesus

(Yeshua) Christ. And this fact is ratified by Revelation 1:5, "And from Jesus Christ, who is the faithful witness, the first begotten of the dead and the prince of the kings of the earth, who hath loved us and washed us from our sins in his own blood" (DRCB); and by Ephesians 1:7, "In whom we have redemption through his blood, the remission of sins, according to the riches of his, grace," (DRCB); and Revelation 7:9 & 14, "After this, I saw a great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations and tribes and peoples and tongues, standing before the throne and in sight of the Lamb, clothed with white robes, and palms in their hands." And 14 And I said to him: My Lord, thou knowest. And he said to me: These are they who are come out of great tribulation and have washed their robes and have made them white in the blood of the Lamb." (DRCB). CHRIST DIED ONCE SO CONTINUOUS SAYING OF MASS BRINGS NO RELIEF: Hebrews 7:26-27 highlight that Christ died once for us not continually setting the pattern, "For it was fitting that we should have such a high priest, holy, innocent, undefiled, separated from sinners, and made higher than the heavens: 27 Who needeth not daily (as the other priests) to offer sacrifices, first for his own sins, and then for the people's: for this he did once, in offering himself." (DRCB); and this is also affirmed at Hebrews 9:26-28, "For then he ought to have suffered often from the beginning of the world. But now once, at the end of ages, he hath appeared for the destruction of sin by the sacrifice of himself. 27 And as it is appointed unto men once to die, and after this the judgment: 28 So also Christ was offered once to exhaust the sins of many. The second time he shall appear without sin to them that expect him unto salvation." (DRCB). And made very clear at 1 Peter 3:18, "Because Christ also died once for our sins, the just for the unjust: that he might offer us to God, being put to death indeed in the flesh, but enlivened in the spirit," (DRCB). GOD'S (YHWH'S) GIFT OF LIFE IS FREE: That God's (YHWH's) gift of life is free and not requiring payment of indulgences is made clear at Acts 8:18-20, "And when Simon saw that, by the imposition of the hands of the apostles, the Holy Ghost was given, he offered them money, 19 Saying: Give me also this power, that on whomsoever I shall lay my hands, he may receive the Holy Ghost. But Peter said to him: 20 Keep thy money to thyself, to perish with thee: because thou hast thought that the gift of God may be purchased with money." (DRCB); and affirmed at Ephesians 2:8, "For by grace you are saved through faith: and that not of yourselves, for it is the gift of God." (DRCB). And Romans 6:23 shows the wages of sin is death, "For the wages of sin is death. But the grace of God, life everlasting in Christ Jesus our Lord." (DRCB). TESTING OF ONE'S WORTHINESS IS DURING LIFE, NOT AFTER DEATH:

Individuals will be tested with respect worthiness during life and not after death as shown at 1 Peter 1:7, "That the trial of your faith (much more precious than gold which is tried by the fire) may be found unto praise and glory and honour at the appearing of Jesus Christ." (DRCB); and further testified to at Malachi 3:1-3, "Behold I send my angel, and he shall prepare the way before my face. And presently the Lord, whom you seek, and the angel of the testament, whom you desire, shall come to his temple. Behold, he cometh, saith the Lord of hosts. 2 And who shall be able to think of the day of his coming? and who shall stand to see him? for he is like a refining fire, and like the fuller's herb: 3 And he shall sit refining and cleansing the silver, and he shall purify the sons of Levi, and shall refine them as gold, and as silver, and they shall offer sacrifices to the Lord in justice." (DRCB). PURGATORY IS NOT EVEN MENTIONED IN THE BIBLE: Nowhere can you find the word Purgatory in the Bible, not even in the Catholic Douay-Rheims Bible from which all quotes in this discourse have been taken. The Encyclopedia Britannica says, "It is impossible to point out in any writing of the first four centuries any passage which describes the state of any of the faithful departed as one of acute suffering...Still less would it be possible to show that the intermediate state was regarded by them as one in which satisfaction was made for sin." [source = The Encyclopedia Britannica, 9 th. Edition - 1907, Volume XX, page 121 ]. Even the Catholic Encyclopedia says, "There is no clear and explicit scriptural text in favour of prayers for the dead, except the above test of II Machabees" [Note, this book, II Machabees, is not a part of the legitimate Bible canon, but a part of the Apochrypha][source = The Catholic Encyclopedia, NY 1908, Volume IV, page 654 ]. NOT FROM THE BIBLE, BUT A TEACHING OF MEN: Let's face it the doctrine of Purgatory is based on the teachings of men and is covered by 2 Corinthians 4:4, "In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of unbelievers, that the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God, should not shine unto them." (DRCB). The Catholic Encyclopedia, previously quoted in the Excerts From the Catholic Encyclopedia part of this discourse says, "That temporal punishment is due to sin, even after the sin itself has been pardoned by God, is clearly the teaching of Scripture. God indeed brought man out of his first disobedience and gave him power to govern all things (Wis. x, 2), but still condemned.... That temporal punishment is due to sin, even after the sin itself has been pardoned by God, is clearly the teaching of Scripture. God indeed brought man out of his first disobedience and gave him power to govern all things (Wis. x, 2), but still condemned" [source = The Catholic Encyclopedia ]. Clearly the words of men as nothing like this is found in the Bible as previously shown. TRADITION MAKES VOID THE WORD OF GOD (YHWH):

Some feel their tradition is more important than the Word of God (YHWH), but the Bible clearly shows otherwise at Matthew 15:1-3 & 6-9, "Then came to him from Jerusalem scribes and Pharisees, saying: 2 Why do thy disciples transgress the tradition of the ancients? For they wash not their hands when they eat bread. 3 But he answering, said to them: Why do you also transgress the commandment of God for your tradition? For God said:" and "And he shall not honour his father or his mother: and you have made void the commandment of God for your tradition. 7 Hypocrites, well hath Isaias prophesied of you, saying: 8 This people honoureth me with their lips: but their heart is far from me. 9 And in vain do they worship me, teaching doctrines and commandments of men." (DRCB); and this is warned against at Colossians 2:8, "Beware lest any man cheat you by philosophy and vain deceit: according to the tradition of men according to the elements of the world and not according to Christ." (DRCB). CONCLUSION: Clearly the Bible shows the doctrine of Purgatory is a teaching of men and in no way from God (YHWH). In fact, the Bible clearly shows that the hope for the dead is through a resurrection and not the paying of indulgences as made clear at John 5:28-29, "Wonder not at this: for the hour cometh wherein all that are in the graves shall hear the voice of the Son of God. 29 And they that have done good things shall come forth unto the resurrection of life: but they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of judgment." (DRCB).

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