AMD Athlon X2 7850 vs.

Intel Pentium E5300: Choosing the Best $70 CPU by Anand Lal Shimpi on 4/28/2009 11:00:00 AM Posted in CPUs Buy the Intel E5300 Pentium Dual Core box $82.95

AMD celebrates its 40 year anniversary next month, and the Athlon brand turns ten shortly thereafter. What better way to celebrate than by releasing a rebadged 65nm Phenom processor with two cores disabled at $69? Er, or, I guess they couldve sent a cake. Its called the Athlon X2 7850 and it actually has very little in common with the old Athlon 64 X2s. As I mentioned, these are rebadged 65nm Phenom processors with two cores disabled. The table below should give you a good comparison between the die size and transistor count of the original Phenom compared to the new Athlon X2: Processor AMD Phenom X4 9950 AMD Athlon X2 7850 Manufacturing Process Die Size Transistor Count 65nm 65nm 285 mm2 285 mm2 450M 450M

Theres no surprise that the specs are identical, because the processors are identical. AMD simply disables two of the Phenoms four cores in production before shipping the parts. In its heyday the original Phenom never broke 2.6GHz, but with a fully mature 65nm process and only two functional cores AMD is able to clock these parts higher. The first dual-core Phenom derivative was the Athlon X2 7750 and it ran at 2.7GHz. In AMDs tradition of introducing far too many CPUs, today AMD expands the list with a 2.8GHz Athlon X2 7850.

Once again this is the original Phenom processor; none of the advancements found in the Phenom II are included - it also means that the architecture doesnt make quite as much sense.

It's a Socket-AM2+ Processor The original Phenom architecture was designed to be used for quad-core processor designs, hence the use of a large shared L3 cache alongside private L2 caches. With only two cores, many of the benefits of this architecture are lost. Intel discovered that the ideal dual-core architecture featured two levels of cache with a large, fast, L2 shared by both cores. AMD and Intel came to the conclusion that the ideal quad-core architecture had private L2 caches (one per core) with a large, shared L3 cache. The Athlon X2 7850 takes the cache hierarchy of the ideal quad-core design and uses it on a dual-core processor.

To make matters worse, it does so with an incredibly small L3. Intel found that on its Nehalem processor each core needed a minimum of 2MB of L3 cache for optimal performance. With Phenom II AMD settled on 1.5MB L3 per core. The original Phenom gave each core 512KB of L3, or in the case of a dual-core derivative 1MB of L3 cache. Again, not ideal. But it only costs $69. And things should be easier for AMD at the $69 price point - theres no Nehalem to worry about down here, only cache starved Core 2 processors. Priced at $74 we have Intels Pentium E5300.

Its a Difference of Cache

The Athlon X2 7850 is based on the original 65nm Phenom core, but with only two cores enabled. That means weve got a 64KB L1 data cache, 64KB L1 instruction cache and a 512KB L2 cache per core. Theres also this catch-all 2MB L3 cache, but its unfortunately very high latency by comparison.

The Pentium E5300 The Pentium E5300 is a trimmed down version of Intels 45nm Wolfdale core. Each core has a 32KB L1 data cache and a 32KB L1 instruction cache, smaller than the Athlon X2. The L2 cache is shared between the cores and is 2MB in size. It takes just as long to access data from Intels 2MB shared L2 as it does to get data from AMDs 512KB L2. Intel does not have an L3 cache but it also doesnt have an on-die memory controller, so final accesses to memory are a lot slower on Intels hardware.

It's all LGA-775 AMD has more cache but its slower than Intels, once you get out to main memory the Athlon X2 can get to data quicker but the E5300 has the benefit of more advanced prefetchers.

The E5300 is a 45nm chip meaning it can be cooled by Intel's low profile boxed heatsink Intels architecture also has a wider 4-issue front end compared to the Athlon X2. The execution advantage should go to Intel. With a higher IPC, Intel doesnt need to run at the same clock speeds to outperform AMD. However with an on-die memory controller, the Athlon X2 could pull ahead in applications that dont fit nicely within the E5300s L2 cache. While the Phenom II has been enjoying clear victories over Intels equivalently priced processors in the higher end space, it looks like crowning a winner at $70 will take a little more work.
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