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Yesterday, 08:06 PM #1
It has been alittle time since the launch and the retail availbility of Intel new Sandy Bridge CPUs ( especially K parts ) as well as their corresponding P67 Motherboards.
We at ASUS would like to first and foremost thank all the users who have once again trusted in ASUS and purchased one of our P8P67 Series of motherboards. We have worked quite hard to
ensure a quality range of boards with a quality bios are ready at the time of launch.
With that noted there are alot of changes that users are going to need to be aware of. As such I am releasing this information in hope users will know how to best use their boards and new UEFI
options. Hopefully this guide will provide a solid detailing of many of the new aspects users are interested should there be additional questions, concerns or inqueries please let me know and i
will do my best to reply.
Lastly as always ASUS holds no liability for any damage you or your hardware may incur during the pursuits of overclocking.
I have detailed our recommendations to maximize the overclocking potential / scaling on ASUS’ P67 series of motherboards. This Guide has been developed after extensive internal testing
across multiple boards, multiple bios builds and a high sampling rate of both D1 and D2 CPUs. While this guide is not a definitive article listing every possible overclocking combination, the
information contained listed is providing repeatable results in our testing. Of course the quality of the cpu and cooling is very important but overall we think the results on our boards should
exceed those of others at like settings.
Expectations regarding K series overclocking in general and on ASUS P67 motherboardsPrior to the recommendations on overclocking the K series, I am outlining our results to set
expectations.
The results below are based on the range of the CPU turbo multiplier when overclocking.
Results are representative of 100 D2 CPUs that were binned and tested for stability under load; these results will most likely represent retail CPUs.
1. Approximately 50% of CPUs can go up to 4.4~4.5 GHz
2. Approximately 40% of CPUs can go up to 4.6~4.7 GHz
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3. Approximately 10% of CPUs can go up to 4.8~5 GHz (50+ multipliers are about 2% of this group)
Additionally it is recommended to keep 「C1E」and「EIST」option enabled for the best overclock scaling. This is different than previous Intel overclocking expectations where the best scaling
was with disabled power states or power management options.
Update specific to D2 and retail parts: Jan 11 2001
As always ASUS strives to be at the forefront of performance and functionality offered by a quality bios. Keeping this in mind ASUS has been actively working in conjunction with Intel to
optimize overclocking potential on ASUS P8P67 motherboards and K series CPUs. With the latest bios revisions ( 1000 series ) or 600 series for ROG specific optimizations have been made to
the microcode and corresponding tables that relate to D2 and retail parts. These are improvement are in addition to general improvements in all respects. Present with this new build of the UEFI
is a new option. This option / value is “ Intel PPL Overvoltage” this option furthers multiplier scaling considerably.* In addition due to the increase in scaling more exotic forms of cooling
cannot be used and will be needed under certain multiplier ranges and corresponding voltages. The general maximum range for the highest performing dual fan air based heastinks still remains
50x to 52x.
Overall in our ongoing internal tests the maximum frequency now achievable ( under LN2 ) is 5.8GHz. At this time we do not have a compiled database to reference improvements in the overall
scaling range or new % of CPUs able to hit 50+ multis. With that noted currently we are seeing generally a minimum of 2 multi to as much as 7 multi increases with this value enabled on
applicable D2 and retail parts.
Example
A D2 sample with peak multiplier of 44 with PPL option enabled and corresponding voltage applied we have seen results of a stable 50 multiplier now able to post / boot and be held.
( previously without the PLL value the same CPU would failed to compelte a boot with a any multi exceeding 45 )
In addition to the increase of the multiplier range a “side effect” is additional Vcore needed to compensate for maintained post/boot and stability tests. The new voltage level do not align with
standard voltage scaling ( on CPU already able to hit / sustain comparable multipliers.
Example
Generally 4.8GHz stability can be achieved at 1.400 – 1.425 Vcore now with PLL enabled D2 parts exceeding their previous max multiplier the increase in voltage would be 1.425 – 1.450.
It is important to note this option should generally only be used with D2 and retail parts NOT D1 parts. Internally we have partial results to indicate degradation of stability at previously reached
multiplier values. Some internal testing has shown on limited samples that some improvement is possible (generally in the range of 1 multi possibly 2 )
In addition continued testing with the PPL option enabled and D2 or retail parts have shown some benefits to CStates being disabled when approaching, at or exceeding a 50x multiplier. An
important note to keep in mind is that disabling CStates can considerably affect HD performance ( especially SATA6G ) Please keep this in mind when going for the highest level overclocks.
Expectations regarding K series overclocking implementation options on ASUS motherboards – Using Speedstep or Not Using Speedstep
Quick Note Regarding Motherboard Stack – What does going higher in the board stack provide overclocking wise?
ASUS’ entire line of P67 motherboards features a class leading and high performance Digi+ VRM implementation that allows for superior overclocking performance; there will be differences
between boards.
While our entire board lineup has been internally tested to fully support K series processors, when overclocking in multiplier ranges of 50 to 54x the higher end boards will benefit in two key
categories.
1. Better Vdroop efficiency.
2. The ability to help drive and sustain a 50+ high load Overclock under maximum loads. Examples of boards that focus on this level are our Deluxe, WS, SABERTOOTH, and Maximus IV
Extreme
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Quick Note regarding the K series multiplier wall – Previous generations of Intel CPUs due to architectural differences had two aspects that could readily change OC scaling potential. These two
factors were TDP (heat output under load) as well as core (CPU/VTT ) voltage being supplied. With previous generation cpus, improvements such as high end air cooling, water cooling or more
extreme forms like LN2 in addition to extreme voltage increases could potentially provide increases in clock speeds on a continual ramp until the limits of the CPU were reached. This is not the
case with K series on the P67 chipset.
In internal testing we have found that maximum multipliers in excess of 50 (up to 54) have been able to be realized with full stability under Air Cooling and with cpu vid voltages under 1.525V.
In fact, the processors will actually start to downclock as they get colder with temperatures under -20C actually performing worse than the retail air cooler at times. The processors optimal range
for performance is around 15~20C in our testing.
An example is noted below.
Should you have a CPU in hand that reaches a 47 multi easily ( posting/booting and running full stability tests at a set Vcore of 1.375V) you would then attempt to jump to the next multiplier.
With the K series CPUs you may have reached the max multi regardless of the cooling or voltage used. Adjustments to either of these settings will not change the ability of the board and CPU to
post at 48x. The only time it will continue to scale would be if the CPU in hand supports higher multipliers or can be finely tweaked to reach that next multi, in this case we suggest using the 47x
multi and adjusting Bclk until you reach the limits of stability.
100BCLK + 47 Turbo Multiplier with Vcore of 1.375 and LLC ( load line calibration of ultra high = 4.7GHz
100BCLK + 48 Turbo Multiplier with Vcore of 1.400 and LLC ( load line calibration of ultra high ) = no boot
100BCLK + 48 Turbo Multiplier with Vcore of 1.425 and LLC ( load line calibration of ultra high ) = no boot
100BCLK + 48 Turbo Multiplier with Vcore of 1.450 and LLC ( load line calibration of ultra high ) = no boot
It is important to note that a post will still occur with a multi present that is at the multi wall. This is because only when the OS begins to initialize and the Turbo ratio is initialized ( kicks in and
ramps up ) that Turbo Multiplier will be raised to defined multi at this point it will then cease to boot due to the multiplier wall being reached.
Quick Note regarding Voltage Scaling – Internal binning of both D1 and D2 parts we discovered consistent voltage scaling patterns.
1. For K series parts, the stock voltage supplied will allow for consistent overclocking generally up to a multiplier of 43x. There is potential for the multi to be raised to 44x depending on the
load induced. This default voltage range be approx 1.240 to 1.260 under load.
2. Increased range between 44 to 47x multipliers will generally require a voltage range between 1.30 to 1.375V with an LLC recommended setting of high to ultra high.
3. Increasing the range between 48 to 50x multiplier will generally require a voltage range between 1.40 to 1.500 with a LLC recommended setting of ultra high.
4. Increased range between 50 to 52 (52 generally considered peak max multiplier except for rare 54x parts) will generally require a CPU voltage range between 1.515 to 1.535V with LLC at
Ultra High and potential fine adjustments to the CPU skew range.
Overall a key item to note is the best voltage to oc scaling range potential for the turbo multiplier is 1.400 to 1.425 vcore. Using this voltage range with an LLC recommendation of ultra high will
generally provide the best scaling potential with proper load temperatures*. We have generally found exceeding this voltage will not provide additional scaling or will increase load temperatures
to a high level with synthetic load applications ( like Prime, Linx, OCCT ). Should you use more realistic loading testing (our recommendation is a combination of AIDA64 stress test, PC Mark
Vantage) then temperatures under will be considerably under the max TDP rating.
*cooling recommendation and test performed with CoolerMaster Hyper 212+ with Single Fan, this is the minimum recommendation for multis above 46x. For 50+ multis we recommend a dual
fan configuration with this cooler or improved cooling.
K series overclocking benefits from non CPU Voltage based adjustments ( UEFI values for power management , Cstates, PCH etc )
– Over a long test and tune cycle, ASUS has developed a class leading bios with superior auto overclocking. This superior performance translates to overclocking in two ways, manually or
automatically via the use of our Auto Tuning application.
Keeping in mind that most retail K series parts will be sub 50 multi capable, our Auto Tuning application has been designed to Auto Tune up to a range of 50 should the CPU support it. In effect
reaching the absolute maximum clock a user can reach manually. Additionally Auto Tuning can serve as a good option for seeing the potential in the CPU and max multiplier it may have before
fine tuning the system.
An example is shown below. P8P67 (Standard) – 2600K, Hyper 212+, Corsair 1600C8 memory 4 dimm.
Should you continue with manual overclocking, these are the advised recommended values.
4.7GHz or Below
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At 4.9GHz, generally the maximum clock speed will not change with a different combination of multi and bclk in this particular example.
Example-
100x49 = 4.9GHz
103x48 = 4.9xxGHz
Generally the CPU will not do much more than what your maximum CPU multiplier range is in most cases. Keeping this in mind, we offer very fine adjustments down to 0.1x increments to
allow for the maximum BCLK tuning.
Lastly when considering adjustments to the BLCK range, it is important to remember it will affect the memory divider/strap and DRAM frequency. Keeping this in mind you may want to adjust
to a lower divider if your memory does not higher frequencies. This especially true when attempting to sustain 4 dimm and high memory density configurations with high BCLK and high Turbo
Multiplier values.
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Yesterday, 08:06 PM #2
Additional Information for those that do not want to read through the guide.
Assuming you have a CPU that can execute and hold a 48 multi the screen behold will show you how to quickly enable a 4.8GHz OC.
1.
Select Ai Overclock Tuner,Select Manual
2.
Now see the expanded options for Turbo Ratio Control and Select By All Cores in OS.
3.
Now manually defined 48 value in each of the core values ( 1 , 2 ,3, 4 )
4.
Depending on what your retail CPU is capable of ( which Auto Tuning should provide you an idea of ) Enable this option! This option is specifically designed for D2/Retail Parts and allowing
for higher multi overclocks especially when at or exceeding 48x. Additionally this option can be used should you not have it enabled and generally cannot boot with a higher multiplier. It is
advised to try this option after you have tried all other standard options. This option is not for increasing stability of a OC that can already post and boot into an OS.
5. Select
Loadline Calibration,Select Ultra High this value will provide overall the closest load level of voltage to the value defined in the bios or AiSuite II
6.
Enter a value of 350. This is best for sustaining stability at multis of 48x or above. This is key especially for running unrealistic loading testing such as prime or linx.
7.
Phase Control enabled Extreme this ensures the highest level of current and overall power delivery for the board under heavy loading.
8.
Ensures the VRM managment system is balancing for the most power possible ( current as opposed to temperature ) generally only for 48x multi overclocks or above.
9.
Select Manual Voltage - This will allow for a consistent voltage to fed to the CPU to ensure stability.Keep in mind that should you want the most efficient overclock you will want to use offset
as this will allow the voltage to track the VRD of the CPU and have the voltage fall and rise depending on the loading state of the CPU.
10.
Enter a CPU V Core Voltage value of 1.415 or 1.425
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Yesterday, 09:55 PM #4
Do you think 1.4V is safe for this CPU? This is a good guide for people looking to overclock.
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Today, 04:46 AM #5
"In addition continued testing with the PPL option enabled and D2 or retail parts have shown some benefits to CStates being disabled when approaching, at or exceeding a 50x multiplier. An
important note to keep in mind is that disabling CStates can considerably affect HD performance ( especially SATA6G ) Please keep this in mind when going for the highest level overclocks."
Do you have a reference about the CStates affecting HD performance? It seems counterintuitive to me, but my knowledge about that sort of thing is definitely limited.
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Today, 11:06 AM #8
Thank you. I've been stuck at 4.6 for prime stable even though @ 4.8 can game and do anything else. Haven't played with the VRM frequency, duty control, phase control, and haven't gone
above 1.35 vcore. Hoping tweaking those will allow me to get a little more.
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Today, 11:21 AM #9
Thanks for taking the time to do this. Very informative writeup. Should be a sticky if its not yet.
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Hi Juan,
How about Asus gives us some information on why our motherboards have consistant boot issues. Thanks.
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Hi Juan,
How about Asus gives us some information on why our motherboards have consistant boot issues. Thanks.
^ this
atleast confirm a bios fix is in the works, and not that a 2.0 rev has to come out.
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Very Nice. I was able to bump up another 100MHz. Thank you Juan!
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MrFace
I started making it easier to read, but then I got lazy.
Do you think 1.4V is safe for this CPU? This is a good guide for people looking to overclock.
Yes as noted in my guide. Ideally i would not recommend anything in excess of 1.425 for 24/7 operation while the overall temperature may still allow for additional voltage and even additional
frequnecy scaling i do not think it is worth it.
Hello All
For those that have any other questions please feel free to PM me and i will do my best to see what support i can provide.
To be clear though we have not internally found any type of boot issues with mechanical or non mechanical disks.
Thanks for the post! Making the changes outlined in the descriptions has 100% resolved my cold boot issues.
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