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terbow posted on 1-2-2008 at 12:11 AM
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4efte/5e Hybrid Build: Parts List

ok guys, I am wanting to go turbo, I am ordering the

5efhe and need turbo parts. I have piping, bov, side
mount DSM intercooler, and boost controller. My
Posts: 21 budget is kinda tight, after buying the motor, I'll only
Registere have about $500-$600 to spare. If anybody has what I
d: 18-1- need to complete a turbo setup, let me know. I know I
2008 can get the 4efte for about the same price of 5efhe and
Member other turbo parts, but I got a hard-on for the 5efhe. If
Is Offline someone has a 4efte for sale and can give me an offer I
cant refuse, let me know, but from what I found on
ebay, I couldn't buy the 4e and still have the money to
get it to work. Thanks
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mulberr posted on 1-2-2008 at 08:16 PM

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You can do one of two things, since you are doing your
own work. You can fit the 5EFHE and yes it is a direct
swap and you can use the 5EFE injectors/ECU etc. if
you are going to run the car NA. Since you are going to
turbo the 5EFHE it would be best to use at least the
eManage Ultimate, pressure sensor and associated
harnesses. If you go the SAFC2 route you will need to
use check valves and run 6PSI of boost which IMHO is
a waste of time. The 5EFE ECU does not see boost. If
Posts: you are going to use the SAAB turbo you are going to
2796 need at least a set of 440cc injectors because remember
Registere the 5EFHE has a CR of 9.8:1, therefore you will need
d: 9-1- to start with a base timing of 0 BTDC and go from
2005 there but no more than 5 BTDC. You will need to
Location: listen for detonation. Careful and professional tuning is
Florida what makes the 5EFHE live!!
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mulberr posted on 1-2-2008 at 09:08 PM

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For those who came in late....if you are rebuilding your

5EFE/5EFHE for boost duty...here is a missive from
gorgan2000 of Toyota GT Turbo:

For an OEM 5EFTE CT9 build……here’s the spoon

feeding list for all………

- 4efte Cam cover

 - 4efte or 5efhe/fe head…with either 4efte or 5efhe
Posts: cams (MARGINALLY better)…..make sure u keep the
2796 shims with whatever cams u use…or reshimming may
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d: 9-1- - 4efte head gasket…5efhe or trd head gaskets are also
2005 used (but trd raise compression somewhat)
Location: - 4efte intake manifold…5efhe ACIS can be used, but
Florida usually requires something to operate it properly
Member - 5e block
Is Offline - 4efte pistons or some people shave the 5e pistons
(TRIED and PROVEN by MANY),,,in fact some
people shave the 4efte pistons……but then a lot of u
Mood: guys are afraid to do this,,,,,,,,so stick to the oem 4efte
No Mood ones then
- 4efte piston rings, if u use 4efte pistons………..5e
pistons rings if u use 5e psitons………there is a
difference in part numbers,,,,,,,,,but people have been
know to use any set with any pistons and they work
fine
- 5e rods…5efhe preferred for bigger boost,,,,,,,,5efe
rods can be used if u don’t plan to over do it----(max
12PSI)
- 4e/5e cam gear/wheel...set timing using 5e
mark.........and set base timing at 10 degrees.........or as
desired, as some may want to retard base timing
depending on set up and gas quality
- 4efte injectors at MINIMUM
- 4e/5e oem fuel pressure regualtor or aftermarket
unit...run anywhere from 2.3 - 3 bar (1bar = 14.7PSI),
on initial set up,,,BUT depends again on your set
up......tune to suit
- 4e/5e fuel rail
- 5e idler and tensioner pulleys
- 4e/5e crank gear
- 5e timing belt
- 4efte ecu, harness and map sensor at minimum.....the
greddy ultimate on the 5e ecu or 4efte ecu is also great
for fine tuning...
- 5e crank…..some prefer 5efhe crank (stamped “5e”)
on it……while others use the “3e” marked crank which
comes in some 5e blocks
- 5e thrust washers
- 5e flywheel (200mm)……or redrilled 4efte flywheel
(212mm), again, has been done several times, just
make sure you have a competent machinist………OR
try to get the 5e bolt pattern flywheel that holds the
212mm clutch set up (usually found on some 3E
engines)
- 5e clutch and 5e pressure plate OR 4efte clutch and
4efte pressure plate….NOT to be mixed and matched
- 5e/4e oil pump……….make sure u get the one that
matches what is there………as far as I’m aware they
are two types
- 4e or 5e oil relief valve
- 4efte oil pick up and 4efte sump…OR 5e oil pick up
and 5e sump….to be used together and not in
combinations………i.e. choose one and use both units
together…..note,,,u wouldhave to drill and tap the 5e
sump for the oil return
- 5e connecting bearings…make sure u get the correct
sizes---check the back of the used one
- 5e main bearings ---- make sure u get the correct
sizes---check the block and crank and do some adding
of the numbers or check the back of the used one
- 4efte exhaust manifold…BEWARE a custom unit is
preferred as the oem unit is VERY restrictive on the 5e
- 1 ct9 turbo and downpipe with all gaskets ---IF u are
going to use the ct9 turbo for a short while……also,
your muffler may need a slight extension as the 5e
block is about 10mm taller…..else use whatever set up
(turbo) u plan to run along with supporting exhaust
manifold and downpipe
- 4e/5e water pump and hoses
- 4efte thermostat, housing and sensors
- 4e/5e gearbox/transmission
- 4efte distributor or 5efhe distributor…..same basic
unit
- 4efte plug wires
- 5e timing covers
- 5e oil/dip stick and housing
- 4efte TMIC----NOT the best idea,,,but would work
for ct9 set up…..if u already have a FMIC set up,,,use
it back
- 1 gallon oil
- 1 pouch of sealant
- 1 oil filter…4e/5e…same thing
- 1 gallon coolant
- 4 spark plugs
- 1 cam shaft seal
- 1 crank shaft seal (front)
- 1 crank shaft seal (rear)
- 2 turbo water lines if required---depends on turbo unit
use
- 1 oil line
- 1 oil return line
- all rubber gaskets
 - all other asscessories from 4efte….a/c, p/s, alternator,
etc

install,,,,run in……..and maybe get tuned if you are

smart

areas to be cautious of:

- power steering pump....u may need to custom make a
bracket or just use the adjuster piece to hold it in place

renee posted on 12-10-2009 at 08:26 AM

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^thanks for the list mulberry. I wanted a list of parts

too so that's pretty useful. I'm gonna take note of this.

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