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How are you holding the tool set screw set screw solid holder
Taper Size 40 40 40
Horsepower 20
Machining time for this Operation 25 min 25 min 1.25
/ Tool
Part Quantites/ One-Off? One off (or a couple) One off (or a couple) One off (or a couple)
solid 13837503
4 3 3 3
- HSK-63A 40 40
100 20 30
15hrs 60 Hours 5 min 4 MIN
One off (or a couple) One off (or a couple) 5-50 pcs 5-50 pcs
ALBRECHT
screw holder ER32 collet chuck ER32 COllet Chuck Set Screw Holder
COLLET CHUCK
No visible wear. No
very good Great so far. No wear. spindle load.
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cost (1/4 of the price
of a carbide) Longer life Longer life Don't really know yet Longer life
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i am not an aluminum We started conservatively
guru but tis works very and have worked up to
well when i use 4 it this. Cut still 3sounds 4 5 4
i cut about 80% of a 24 x amazingly stable and will
8 x 6 block and i made 8 probably increase IPM or This was a customer
blocks stepover some more after demonstration wilt Spindle load was only
the tool still look like a we collect more data on customer supplied 50% I could push this tool
Goldorak
brand new one volthause
tool life etc. CNC Apps
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Mori-Seiki NHX-
Mazak VCS 4000 Makino a66 Makino a66 MORI-SEIKI
cat 40 40 40 40 40
30 30 30 30 25
1 min 20sec 51 seconds :50 :57 28 MINUTES
5-50 pcs 750 + 50-250 50-250 50-250
Dynamic core,
Dynamic area Peel Mill dynamic facing dynamic facing OPTI-CORE
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315 220 700 540 178
30 20 40 40 10
1 0.75 0.5 0.5 0.75
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Profile ramp @ 6
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5 5 3 2 5
1.5 x 3.5 x 12 blank had .
5 extra stock on the face, This part was warping
5 5 4 3 this
I wanted to try and moving 5 using older
toolpath to test a few methods. G08 P1 was
This is the same part as cutters. This path faces slower than letting it run
Production run of parts. the data entered the whole part faster than without it. Reduced the
Cut Cycle time by 60% yesterday, just a new if I were to use a face cycle time on the parts by
freefall4fun99 crazy^millman
from SPECV
other method used. cutter brand. SPECV
mill. crazy^millman
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Solid Carbide
Solid Carbide AlTiNX
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10 10
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These toolpaths are
worth spending some
time, tools, and material
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warning, these toolpaths This was with profile
REQUIRE some sort of milling. There was no
advanced look-ahead corners that it went into
feature in the control to as that would have made
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Bridgeport/Okuma Bridgeport/Okuma
Matsuura Haas VF2SS Control Control Mazak
BT-40 40 cat 40 40 40
30 25 25
2 minutes approx 4 min 4ish min .5 hr
50-250 One off (or a couple) 5-50 pcs 5-50 pcs
core roughing,
plunging outside of Rapid to full depth Rapid to full depth
material Helix outside part outside part
3030rpm/33.0ipm
4 3 5 5 4
4
Would of preferred to use 3 5
Pretty cool watching it 5 5
air blast, used coolant to cut. OSP 200M did a
get rid of the chips. Back great job reading code
feedrate of 1500 IPM is quick enough. Ran up to Another fantastic
crazy fun to watch. Load 600 ipm, and couldn't performer from the
JMC hit 45% max.
meter Scott Lundin rizzo tool.
break rizzo
Sandvik Plura series! k2csq7
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9.6 2.3 37.5 11.25 6.384
8/9/2010 0:34:55 9/21/2010 11:52:02 12/1/2011 9:43:41 6/30/2010 5:08:18
Set screw holder set screw Milling Chuck set screw type
50 50 40 40
25 15 7.5
5 minutes < 5 min. 5 4min
One off (or a couple) One off (or a couple) 5-50 pcs 50-250
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Dynamic mill Dynamic Dynamic Area Mill roughing)
3000 1150 7640 4500
100 12 184 120
7 45 5 12.5
0.875 0.5 1 1.25
45 0 0.15 25
None x,y .005 0.005 0.015
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3:1 3:1 @ .002 TOTAL 3:1
3 3 3 5
i use dynamic mill in
4 3 5 about every 5job i program
This was for prototype until dynamic exist
parts, production will be Dynamic mill reduce
making many parts out of repeated this toolpath 6 cycle time from 30 to 50%
D2, will give info when job times around the part, compared to conventional
jhjrdone for that material.
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tool A-1looks new! Greyman gOLDORAK
cnc milling
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6/30/2010 13:48:02 12/1/2011 9:54:31 6/30/2010 12:08:25 9/20/2010 10:19:17 4/6/2013 20:52:50
face mill holder Milling Chuck set screw holder Milling Chuck Er-32
CAT-50 40 50 40 40
30 15 30 ??? 7.5
10 min 15 4 minutes 4 minutes 6 min
One off (or a couple) 5-50 pcs 50-250 5-50 pcs One off (or a couple)
Volumill 2d or
Peel mill Dynamic Area Mill Dynamic Mill Dynamic Mill Dynamic core
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50 164 290 143 150
25 10 4.8 10 10
2.5 1 1.5 1.25 0.5
0.15 40 50 10
0.125 0.005 0.02 0.015 .005 for finish
reduce cycle time Longer life Longer life Longer life Longer life
3:1 @ .002 TOTAL 2:1 2:1, .001 tolerance 2:1
5 3 5 4 5
this is a special job that i
had: 1 slot 4in wide 2.5
deep 36in long
it's just to demonstrate
that HST can also be
used on a heavy
roughing base, this
settings need a huge
amount of torque and Proves that a budget tool
rigidity but at 62.5 cubic on a really budget
inch per minutes it's machine can still get
pretty impressive to respectable performance.
watch in the 2machine 5 4 4 5
Took a traditional old-
i really don't recommend The HEM calculator that school 30 min toolpath
these settings on a large was posted on the site down to 6 min, and got
production job the tool or Helix feed could be works great. Very fun to alot closer to net (using
the machine will fail pretty increased if angle is show an unsuspecting smaller tool for smaller
Goldorak
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reduced. neurosis JMC
operator. rizzo
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170-200min
between .006-.008
unknown wear on insert edge brand new Very good.
None None Air gun None Air gun
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passes Longer life faster and longer life Longer life
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arc filter on
5 5 5 5 5
there was a significant
drop in tool life using the
mp2500 grade insert only
like 10-12 pcs per edge
we actually used thru the Customer was going to
Very unusual application. spindle air, and coolant, use inserted tool with
Cleaning1up a 62rc 3 even high5pressure 5 going to
coolant. Was This was5the only
stamping die, total produced less tool life take over 2 hours with machine avail at the
interupted cut. Goal was (we can only hit about HST took 38 minutes and time :( Could have run
to face .030 off the part 600psi with the seco was run dry no air since vastly faster feed on a
(8"x10" block) on one insert cutter due to large was a mold body core od better machine. Nice
side ofrizzo
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.300 approach
distance Depth plunge (pre hole)
2 2 5
i could go faster , but the
machine was already at
150% of his capacity
3 3 4
so if your machine could
take faster feed rate, you
can go up to 120ipm
and if you get more HP
you could boost the step
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40 30 50 40 CAT 40
15 ~13 30 22KW/30HP 20
2m:14s (A),3m:51s
20 ~3 minutes 45 min 2:30 hour
(B)
5-50 pcs 5-50 pcs couple) 5-50 pcs One off (or a couple)
PLUNGE, CORE
Helix into predrilled hole plunge (pre hole) MILL PASSES OF PART PLUNGE
1910RPM/25IPM/2D
S2750 -F80.
EG NO
completed 14 parts
and was still going;
looked rough due to
Dont Know Yet recutting chips good ALMOST NO WEAR 5:00 HOUR
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CAT40 40 CAT 40
20 HAAS power 10
3.41 0:08:57 2:45:00
50-250 5-50 pcs One off (or a couple)
40 50 cat 50 50
7.5 30
8min 2 - 4 hours 60 minutes in cut 1.75 hr.
5-50 pcs 50-250 One off (or a couple)
5 4 5 4
4 Extreme reach4 deep 5 5
75% cycle time reducing pocket operation using
by using Dynamic peel mill then surface I could probably go up to
i get about the same tool finish project. 5% stepover at the same
life than standard 2D Conventional pocket parameters and still get
Goldorak
pocket Mayday failed
routine's jeremy@adexmt.com
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Tool Material and Length of Cut / How are you
Part # Number of Flutes Coating Flute Length holding the tool
.375 SOLID
HOLDER, SET
13837503 3 CAR 1 SCREW
ACB337 3 HSS/CO 2.25 screw holder
ALBRECHT
edp#48396 3 solid carbide 1.25 COLLET CHUCK
Rego-fix Powergrip
ALDH 2 Solid Carbide 1 PG25
SK-COLLET
H40ALV-R30375 3 SOLID CARBIDE .75/1.5 CHUCK
SS-I-50156-53666 5 Solid Carbide 9/16/2010 ER16 Collet
Solid Carbide
63467 4 AlTiNX 1.25 ER-32 collet Holder
CARBIDE NANO-A
#3114 RF100 4 COATED 1.250 Milling Chuck
1070-.625-1.625-
7FL 5 Solid Carbide TIALN 1.625 set screw holder
Solid Carbide,
TC60332
Cheapo! 4 ALTIN
4 Uncoated 1.25 Milling Chuck
0.75 Er-32
CARB, Tuffcoat
EDP 15540 4 ALtiima 10mm Fitz-Rite thru cool
Haas 40 50-250
Mori-Seiki NHX-
4000 40 30 51 seconds 750 +
Bridgeport/Okuma
Control 40 25 approx 4 min 5-50 pcs
Bridgeport/Okuma
Control 40 25 4ish min 5-50 pcs
Mazak 40 .5 hr
Haas Matsuura
Mini Mill 40 40 ??? 7.5 6 min4 minutes 5-50
One off (or pcs
a couple)
Hardinge/Bridgeport
/Okuma 40 27 10 min One off (or a couple)
3 minutes 50
kitamura 4xi 40 20 seconds 5-50 pcs
Fadal 40 15 32 Seconds 5-50 pcs
2m:14s (A),3m:51s
ENSHU 40 CAT 22KW/30HP (B) 5-50 pcs
VF-4 HAAS 40 20 2:30 hour One off (or a couple)
dynamic 1380 22 10 1
Dynamic Mill 5500 20 15
Dynamic core,
Dynamic area 12000 315 30 1
Dynamic (core
roughing) 4500 120 12.5 1.25
Dynamic Mill
core 5348 5000 143 150 10 10 1.25 0.5
20 0.025
3 helix - -
60 0.5 20 hours
6 Degree plunge
50 0.02 angle 168 ipm
Profile ramp @ 6
2.5 0.005 degrees Tool will last forever
80 PART LIKE
10 0.02 PROFILE 50IMP RPM 9900 BRAND NEW
Helix, .1 R, 1.0 Deg After running, tool
5 net Entry looked untouched.
.02 Left For Stock Helix Radius 50 IPM Looked like new
core roughing,
plunging outside of
25 0.005 material still looks great
10 .015 X/Y Helix 3030rpm/33.0ipm unknown
2101RPM/21IPM/5D
0.15 0.005 Helix EG Dont Know Yet
Core to
Rapid Mill,
fullentered
depth Great. Ran 4 parts
50 10 .005 for0.015
finish outside partof part
outside Very good
no problem.
- - -
0.45 0 0 0 unknown
.01 vertical arc .03
side arc all other 170-200min
setting zero on all between .006-.008
16.5 0.075 other leads field wear on insert edge
.300 approach
25 .010 in xy distance great
10 0.015 Depth
completed 14 parts
and was still going;
looked rough due to
5 XY .010", Z 0.0 into predrilled hole recutting chips
25 0.015 plunge (pre hole) good
PLUNGE, CORE
60% (A),10%(B) .0047xy, .007z MILL PASSES NO ALMOST NO WEAR
50.00% 0.02 OF PART PLUNGE S2750 -F80. 5:00 HOUR
2:1 arcs in xy
flood Don't really know yet .005 total tol 5 3
2:1 NO CREATE
flood Longer life ARCS XY 2 4
cost (1/4 of the price
Flood of a carbide) 0.1256944444 5 4
Air
Nonegun Longer
Longer life life 2:1, .001 tolerance
2:1 4 5 4 5
Lasted about 5
None passes - 5 1
Air gun 5 5
I fucked up 3pcs
2"long cutting length
endmills and then
got this data, I tried
JMC's data, but that
was for a Matsuura
and mine is a stupid
Haas, the chips
were very nice and
came out like a
tmao machine gun
I fucked up 3pcs
2"long cutting length
endmills and then
got this data, I tried
JMC's data, but that
was for a Matsuura
and mine is a stupid
Haas, the chips
were very nice and
came out like a
tmao machine gun
Joey Styles
mastercamx8
We gave the
machine a bead
blast on the walls.
We were throwing
chips 30' to 40'
away from the
machine. We
achieved 180 cubic
5th Axis Consulting inches of MMR.
Could feed at
350ipm, parts too
small for machine
rizzo accel
RUNS GREAT, 1950 32.8125
SOUNDS GREAT,
MACHINE WILL
VIBRATE A
LITTLE :) ITS A
dforsythe HAAS 993.2325 14.4
i am not an
aluminum guru but
tis works very well
when i use it
i cut about 80% of a
24 x 8 x 6 block and
i made 8 blocks
the tool still look like
Goldorak a brand new one 1170 30.75
We started
conservatively and
have worked up to
this. Cut still sounds
amazingly stable
and will probably
increase IPM or
stepover some more
after we collect
more data on tool
volthause life etc. 975 39.375
This was a customer
demonstration wilt
customer supplied
material. I ran 3
CNC Apps Guy parts. 1300 15
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with Vendor
supplied tools and
parameters on this
material. No matter
what we used, it
took a long time and
ate inserts. This
toolpath with a
carbide E.M. worked
amazingly. Ran all
my 9 parts, top and
bottom with
complex, long
roughing profiles in
a shorter time than
LansB before. 390 2.625
Crazy^Millman 585 4.5
0
75% cycle time
reducing by using
Dynamic
i get about the same
tool life than
Goldorak standard 2D pocket
Extreme reach deep 195 0.017578125
pocket operation
using peel mill then
surface finish
project.
Conventional pocket
Mayday routine's failed go
I could probably 198.62232 0.058115
up to 5% stepover at
the same
parameters and still
jeremy@adexmt.co get 120 minutes in
m cut 455 0.03054375
k2csq7 78 0.038475
In plastic you
alleays cut
conventional. the
step over could
have been 20% but
15% did just fine,
Kevin W. left a good finish. 2080 33.75
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