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What's the standard “roadmap” to learning quantum physics? [closed]

I'm really interested in quantum physics and would like to learn more. However, I don't know where to start and in what order I should learn things. So,
ideally I'm looking for some sort of roadmap of what to learn. What physics topics do I need to know to start learning about quantum mechanics? (In
addition to the mathematical topics mentioned at What is the math knowledge necessary for starting Quantum Mechanics?)

My current knowledge is mostly popular science stuff, like tv shows on Discovery Science and National Geographic Channel. So I have a basic
understanding of some basic principals. There's also a recent lecture from Brian Cox that I have watched which gave a bit more in-depth information.

quantum-mechanics education

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Hi Simon - the problem with this question is that it's way too open-ended. But I'll close it as a duplicate of an earlier question we have about learning physics so that you have somewhere to
look for resources. I'm not sure whether that earlier question should even be open, but that will have to be decided separately. – David Z ♦ Jan 8 '12 at 2:43

I was hoping there would have been some sort of generally accepted roadmap in the sense of 'first you need to learn x to be able to understand y, after which you can learn z.' But apparently
there isn't such a thing? The other question has some interesting resources though :) – Simon Verbeke Jan 8 '12 at 2:50

Oh, OK, I see what you're asking now. Physics education generally does follow a standard progression (in part) and it should be fine to ask about that. Hopefully you won't mind if I try to
clarify that that's what you're looking for, though. If any of the edits I'm about to make are inaccurate, feel free to improve them. – David Z ♦ Jan 8 '12 at 3:25

I threw in a link to another question that includes mathematical prerequisites to learning QM. – David Z ♦ Jan 8 '12 at 3:30

@DavidZaslavsky Thank you very much for reopening the question. – Simon Verbeke Jan 8 '12 at 15:23

9 Answers

I would suggest that you don't do any preliminary reading, and just learn QM directly. There is not
much to it, the requisite background is very primitive linear algebra, and Dirac's book "The Principles
of Quantum Mechanics" and Feynman's "Lectures on Physics Vol III" can be read with Wikipedia help
without any prerequisites.

The classical mechanics you need to know is not very sophisticated either--- you just need to know
Newton's laws, and how they come from a Lagrangian or Hamiltonian, which is covered in standard
sources. You don't need so much deep stuff, although knowing Poisson brackets is handy for seeing the
vestigial quantumness in the classical mechanics structure.

I would suggest reading the following Wikipedia pages for a historical perspective, which helps a lot
with historical literature:

Old quantum theory

Adiabatic invariant
Correspondence principle
Matrix mechanics

This is wrongly left out of most books, and this is a shame. There is no unified presentation of the
historical material except on Wikipedia, and this is why these pages are up there. Once you get the
historical stuff (it's not a lot), Dirac gives a conceptually self-contained introduction to the
mathematics, the notation, and the physics, while Feynman is path-integral friendly, so you can go on
to read Feynman and Hibbs, or Mandelstam and Yourgrau without any delay.

It is usually a waste of time to try to go through prerequisites, as these are usually boring and most of
the material doesn't end up getting used. For QM, you need to come in knowing what a matrix is, and
what an eigenvalue is, which is probably best learned from Dirac.
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Thank you for taking the time to post this answer and I hope, if you live in America, that you have a Happy Thanksgiving. If
not, just have a nice day. – Simply Beautiful Art Nov 24 '16 at 23:27

I'm sorry to tell you that anything you learn on TV about quantum mechanics is useless. Not many
people in the world understand quantum mechanics and many of thouse who claim to, are either naive
or liers. I don't understand quantum mechanics, but I could calculate you things, even explain a model
of the hydrogen atom. Quantum mechanics is not "just" understanding, it's about BREAKING all your
concepts, it will destroy every notion you have up to this moment. With this said, I recomend you this
college-like path:

Algebra and analysis: vectorial spaces, integrals, diferential equations are BASIC, so go deep into
them, specially vectorial spaces so you can "upgrade" to tensors from there.
While learning the basics of algebra and analysis you should learn about newtonian mechanics and
maxwell electromagnetics (in that order).
Once you have donde it, learn everything about newtonian mechanics again using the lagrange and
hamilton formulation. In that moment you will be able to mix maxwell electromagnetics and
newtonian physics.
If you really want to go deep you should make some digging in the special relativity, but that is
somehow optional... (not if you want real understanding).
Now start with old quantum mechanics books, not very similar to modern physics, but absolutly
necesary if you want to understand WHY did we go the way we went.
In this point you actually know something about QM and you are ready to learn the Dirac
principles and finally destroy every concept about reality you had before starting this path.

This could be a 2-4 years project, but it is possible. I would recomend you go to lessons (in my country
you can go without paying, but they won't give you the certificate). Good luck.

Note: after ALL THAT, you will get a lot of profit by reading the EPR paradox, Bohr & Heisenbrerg
opinion about quantum mechanics, and of course the Bell article about entangled particles. Don't get
mixed up by von Neumann's principles, in my humble opinion I think he was way too mathematician to
understand the deep of bohr and heisenberg thinking. And by the way, if you ever don't understand
something, you are doing it right.

answered Jan 29 '13 at 15:04

Gerard
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I think the usual way as they take it at a university is pretty much the time efficient way to go. The math
and  *at least*  Classical Mechanics will be necessary.

Nobel Laureate Gerard 't Hooft at one put together a selection of introductions in a roadmap style

click

The navigation system on that site doesn't work for me anymore. But the important part, the links on
the right hand side, work.

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Calmarius Nikolaj-K
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Very interesting indeed :) Looks like a good roadmap. – Simon Verbeke Jan 8 '12 at 18:02

I don't think there is a standard roadmap because it depends very much on what you're trying to
achieve. I first learned QM when doing a Chemistry degree, and that was heavily focussed on the
Schrodinger equation and time independant solutions. My friends doing Physics took a more abstract
and mathematical approach.

From your question I'd guess you're looking for something like a tradition popular science book but
more rigorous. The trouble is that QM doesn't lend itself to this approach. It isn't like general relativity,
where you can imagine rubber sheets and get a reasonable idea of what is going on. There isn't any
simple mental image of QM you can work with. The only good way to learn it is to get stuck into the
mathematics.

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answered Jan 8 '12 at 11:09

John Rennie
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The rubber sheet doesn't work for GR, and for QM, there are some nice visualizations, like Pauling's orbital pictures. –
Ron Maimon Oct 21 '12 at 1:38

Like Rennie said there is no standard roadmap for learning quantum mechanics. Even though there is
no standard way of learning QM I'll show you one of the possible ways of doing so. I'll assume you have
the basic highschool math tools: You will need a basig calculus course, one good book for that is:
Calculus,Stewart a general and simple but a good approach. Take a look at the MIT calculus courses (I
and multivariable calculus); Then you will need at least one general linear algebra book: Linear algebra
from Hoffman would be my choice but Kunze is also very good. Then you should have a notion on
probabilities and statistics. For that I would suggest John E.Freund Statistics a first course as an
introduction and then you should pick up one more heavy probabilities and statistics book you like. the
one I mentioned won't be enough in my opinion. You will need to know a book about differential
equations "elements of ordinary differential equations and boundary value problems" will do just fine
even though it is a bit introductory a more complex book after that one would be good. Then to finish
your mathmatical preparation you will need to know Fourier analysis for that I suggest for a basic
approach a book not exactly about Fourier analysis but a book that has a very good approach (in my
opinion) Signals and Systems, Oppenimer.

If you study and Understand all the topics above you will be able to learn QM with no problem. A good
with a somehow historical introduction to QM is Modern Physics from Krane but this one is just a
transposition from classical to QM not really a QM book. As a QM book quantum mechanics, Claude
Cohen-Tannoudji is a good book.

There are two things I must say: 1st a knowledge of the mathmatical tools isn't enough you will need to
know Newtonian Mechanics and Electromagnetism along with an introduction to relativity AT LEAST.
2nd if you do want to learn QM be aware that it will shape the way you see the world for it will show you
how little we know about it. It will show you how complex the laws governing our universe are.

Good luck.

answered Jan 8 '12 at 14:11

Jose Moreira
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For theoretical purposes I would also recommend you the following :

Principles of Quantum Mechanics by P.M. Dirac.

Mathematical Foundations of Quantum Mechanics by J. Von Neumman.
An Introduction to Quantum Theory by Keith Hannabus.

Now because of your interest ( according to your profile ) on computer science, you may want to read
something about quantum computing. For example "An Introduction to quantum computing" by
Phillip Kaye, Raymond Laflamme and Michele Mosca.Or the following arxiv.org material :

http://arxiv.org/abs/quant-ph/9809016

http://arxiv.org/abs/0708.0261

Good luck, I am also trying to learn Quantum Physics ! :)

answered Jan 8 '12 at 16:30

Serifo Blade
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Most of the other answers are discussing the mathematical "prerequisites," but let's try to describe a
standard roadmap. Most (American) universities (that I have experience with!) have a sequence for
physics and brave engineering undergraduates that begins with three courses in sequence, the only
math you need generally being a firm grounding in high school calculus:

Newtonian mechanics
Electricity and magnetism (not quite at the level of Maxwell's equations)
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expert, then certainly much more work is required, but I'm a firm believer that you can learn a lot about
a topic without knowing everything...

Which leads nicely into mathematical "prerequisites," and I use scare quotes because I think its easy for
a beginner to get overwhelmed by the idea that they basically need a degree in mathematics before they
can understand physics. Every single one of the topics that Jose Moreira mentioned in his answer
will help you understand QM more deeply (and be remiss not to recommend Strang's book for linear
algebra!) but you'll learn the bits you need as you go. One of the best quantum mechanics books for
undergrads -- totally accesible for someone who has completed the three courses above -- with self-
contained introductions to the mathematical tools and a refreshingly "shut up and calculate" approach
is D.J.Griffiths' Introduction to Quantum Mechanics.

answered Jan 8 '12 at 17:09

wsc
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If you want to do research in theoretical physics, you have to be very strong in math (abstract math).
Otherwise, if your goal is to understand what's going on in quantum physics, field theory etc, then you
will not need any math beyond Boas' mathematical methods.

edited Oct 20 '12 at 14:07 answered Oct 16 '12 at 18:38

McGarnagle ahmed
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It is possible to learn Quantum Mechanics before taking Classical Mechanics. That is what I did. But
you do have to know what a vector space, basis, change of basis, linear transformation, and matrix are.
Then read Dirac. You can learn the Hamiltonian point of view from Dirac. So I would say that the
prerequisites are: Irving Adler, The New Mathematics, and Isaac Asimov, The Realm of Algebra.

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