ENTP description and developments

I dont understand how the functions work – but clearly relate to them and se the following two Se and
Si as my major flaws. Wonder if I can mitigate them?

Se: The third function of the ENTp is Se, by which the essence of experiences arrive and insights
into their development arise. Since the ENTp type thrives in a world of abstract and non-concrete
theoretical principles, it may be rendered difficult for this type to collect multiple physical sensations
from the eyes, ears, nose, taste and touch in order to register into a readily available databank their
entirety and the various conscious considerations concerning them. In result of this inability, expected
behaviors should include a lack of motive concerning physical activities, lack of discipline, inability to
control aggressive tendencies with unexpected outburst or extreme passivity and non-aggressive,
pushing others without good reason or not pushing hard enough when needed, sluggishness and
irresponsibility, lack of willpower and initiative, breaking down when put under pressure, shutting
down during stressful situations, or inability to push talents and abilities.

Si: The fifth function of the ENTp is Si, by which the essence of experiences arrive and insights into
their development arise. Though be this a weak, unconscious, and influential function, it should find
itself most active within the presence of one whose dominant function coincides, for it it seeks to be
strong and may pretend to be such. At other times, an expression of this function may find itself in
place of the weak and conscious Se function. Manifested bahaviours expected of this function should
include experiencing uncontrollable flashbacks of negitive or distorted experiences, obsession with past
experiences that seem to have a grip on current reality, having a compulsion to keeping things a certain
way because they have a certain familiarity to them, not wanting to change the past, prone to inactivity
and unwilling to change since that would mean wrecking or damaging the current and future
experience,looking past people or things and walking around with distant and vague look in eye as
though unaware of surroundings.

ENTp by Function

Ne: The first function of the ENTp is Ne, by which the essence of ideas arrive and insights into their
development arise. With this function, it is possible to collect multiple perspectives, concepts, ideas,
and beliefs in order to register into a readily available databank their entirety and the various conscious
considerations concerning them as they stand in the abstract theoretical world and in order to derive a
global picture of them. However, Ne also maintains an active neutral stance on all of the whole of its
inputs, even if the whole of the input of one core belief, concept, or idea, conflicts with any of the other
core beliefs, concepts, or ideas it remains non-biased and registers them all as equals. Probably the
most powerful aspect of Ne is an ability to see potential in the most obscure forms and to believe in
them. Being an extroverted function, Ne cannot derive data from within and must amass information
from outside of itself and in the here and now to survive as a function or at all.

Ni: The seventh function of the this type is Ni. Strong and lacking, it remains to the ENTp something
to be loathed. Though some use may come from this function in the tracking of time, patterns, and
simple predictions, this function remains the vehicle by which the old becomes abandoned and the new
comes about. For the ENTp, Ni truly represents all that inferiority is and the uselessness of false
potential, and so long as new beliefs emerge and there remains something to be considered, out with the
old and in with the new! Loyalty to a strong qualified belief system will never interest an ENTp!

Ti: The second function of the ENTp is Ti, by which objective logic substantiates itself through various
thought processes. With this function, it is possible to deconstruct and disassemble various levels of
thought, concepts, and ideas in order to gauge a sense of their inner workings or how they habitually
function. Probably the most powerful aspect of Ti is an active ability to remain focused on tenacious
analytical or logical task of a specific theme and the ability to break down, refine, and index it into sub
classified fields for ready access, assessment, consideration with direction back to the main point or
original theme if needed; other important features of this function include the ability to express ideas in
the most concise and logical manner that could be implemented to appeal to the logical processes of
others. Being an introverted function, Ti has an active ability to self-sustain itself and moves actively
between an objective mental world located in the future and past in order to sustain itself as an active
function.

Te: The eigth function of the this type is Te. Strong and lacking, it remains to the ENTp something to
be loathed. Though some use may come from this function in the tracking of events, patterns, and
simple gauging of current thought, this function remains the vehicle by which tradition establishes
itself and the foreign get thrown out. For the ENTp, Te truly represents all that inferiority is and the
uselessness of false potential, and so long as old thought is and there remains something to be
cherished, traditional systematic logic stands before the new! Disloyalty to a cherished, strong, and
qualified system of personal logic will never interest an ENTp!

Fi: The fourth function of the ENTp is Fi, by which subjective feeling substantiates itself through
various ethical processes. Since the ENTp type thrives in a world of logical and non-ethical and
objective principles, it may be rendered difficult for this type to deconstruct and disassemble various
levels of emotions, feelings, and moods in order to gauge a sense of their inner workings or how they
habitually function. In result of this inability, expected behaviors should include a disability to
understand ones own emotional state as it applies to self and others, difficulty understanding the
emotional intentions of other, an inability to comprehend the amount of emotion needed to establish
long lasting relationships, loosing interest in associating with people who are either too attentive or
non-attentive, not knowing the right thing to say to people to avoid hurting them, accidentally insulting
or offending people and not understanding why, and general lack of values or ethics.

Fe: The sixth function of the ENTp is Fe, by which subjective feeling substantiates itself through
various ethical processes. Though be this a weak, unconscious, and influential function, it should find
itself most active within the presence of one whose dominant function coincides, for it it seeks to be
strong and may pretend to be such. At other times, an expression of this function may find itself in
place of the weak and conscious Fi function. Manifested bahaviours expected of this function should
include a tendency towards sudden outburst that seem negitive and depreciatory to others, prone to
thinking negitivly about the way others feel about him or her, concluding that others do not favor him
or her without any reason to do so, tendency towards 'poor me' attitudes that just come out of the blue,
disliking people without objectivity to do so or atleast giving that impression to others, friendly and
tactful one day only to be tactless and unfriendly the next.

description
ENTps are methodically very abstract and thought driven, constantly seeking the pure potentialities of
the unseen. They naturally see the big picture as others see it, while actively comparing their own
beliefs without bias and consideration to their own personal belief. It is not uncommon for an ENTp to
think is his mind 'A man believes this, another believes that ... I see the potentialities of them both, so
what is the real deal?' Often an ENTp may logically qualify these abstractions to make personal
solutions to problems, though they actively avoid solving logical problems the same as others do. Since
they avoid deriving known conclusions, their ideas maintain a unique and personal originality that
other may not have considered. ENTps have little loyalty to personal belief and tend abandon old
inferior beliefs for newer ones with better potentialities.

Since they are creative and pensive people, ENTps can not function well in environments that demand
their attention to strict schedules or have heavy expectations placed upon them. Structured
environments frustrate them and routine demotivates them, causing them to break down from the stress
and pressure. However, ENTps function well in environments by which they have been given a
'creative license' to move freely and to exercise their abilities to rationalize, appearing to procrastinate
until the last moment to finish tasks. An ENTp does the best work in an unstructured free environment
with few prohibitions or restrictions.

ENTps can have little understanding of the limits of public, personal, and private space, and can irritate
others with the way they habitually manage common everyday matters. They can have limited ability to
comprehend the amount of time to complete task, and can be generally irresponsible or late on
occasion. They can also be very messy, and have a hard time taking care of themselves. They can
become so distracted with every day matters, that they lose track of their health. An ENTp may appear
to be in a hurry when he or she is not.

Even though they are extroverts, ENTps may demonstrate a subtle tendency towards reservation. Those
who have had problems establishing friendships may manifest a quiet nature and a lack of general
outgoingness, one day appearing social and friendly only to be indifferent or avoidant the next. Over a
period of time specific social patterns may develop, appearing unfriendly and reserved to some and
friendly and open to others. With their sporadic nature, they may unwittingly convince others of a
general dislike and social discontentment, even though it is not their intention. Because of this, ENTps
feel a need to receive positive emotions more than any other type, and often use their intuitive logic to
concoct clever social schemes to gain required social attention; ENTps crave great emotional attention
from others.

ENTps do not readily follow social norms. They do not like to have their independence threatened by
unnecessary rules, and they can appear expedient and out-of-place in a society that values any various
forms of unnecessary subjugation. While ENTps may have a healthy respect for rules when they are
necessary as a guideline or are necessary and good for the well being of people, they do not readily
tolerate intentional subjugation to any type of rule or method that they consider to be out-dated or
harmful to the well-being of individuals. ENTps tend to look down on people who do so, considering
them to be childish and lacking of confidence.

ENTps are the intuitive protectors of society. They do not want to see people being exploited out of
ignorance or to see the unmerciful destruction of individuals for the gain of a chosen few. ENTps want
everyone to be strong, independent, and able to stand on their own. They can use their intuitive
understanding of situations and their ability to see the internal workings beyond smoke and mirrors,
and to warn of danger. However, they can at times see danger where none really exist, which often
causes people to not take them seriously. But, ENTps really want the best for others, even in a world
that does not really understand them or really cares to for that matter.

ENTps thrive not in any society that places high value upon any form of systematic consistency, and
could be perceived with suspicion. Because of their acute absentmindedness, an ENTp may
unintentionally forget what he or she has done throughout the day or mistakenly leave tools and other
items where he or she has worked. This forgetting can happen anywhere from a matter of seconds to
minutes. When confronted, an ENTp may deny he or she has done something, even a few moments
later and when there are witnesses to testify against this fact; generally, most people lack the empathy
and insight to understand how anyone can humanly manage under such inconsistent and odd behavior.
However, those who have developed a good understanding of ENTps can testify to their faulty memory
and forgive and accept them. An ENTp is best left to live in a society that values their greater strengths
over their lower flaws.

Another cause of strife could result by the way in which an ENTp naturally realizes and relays
information. If an ENTp fails to absorb all necessary hints and clues about his or her surroundings
during a significantly potential or important event, his or her mind could unintentionally distort that
information, causing the ENTp to perceive and relay information to others that may not have a
complete bearing on reality. However, this is totally natural for an ENTp; their minds can play connect
the dots. If a dot is missing, their subconscious fills it for them without telling. However, they tend to
often be right more than they are wrong. Regardless of this, the casual observers may discern their own
inborn divergent thinking abilities as blatantly dishonest and unreliable reasoning. Although, societies
that are more accepting of ENTps tend to be more amazed with the ability than uncertain and
condemning. But, this view is merely a matter of perception; honesty and dishonesty has nothing to do
with a person's personality type. As people, ENTps can be just as honest or dishonest as any other
person of any other type, just so long as they avoid misunderstanding societies upon which can do them
any harm.

ENTps are actually pretty positive people, who enjoy life greatly. Unless circumstances prove it
necessary, they rarely find reason to think negatively about people. They seek to accept and to
understand people for who they are inside. They do not like to condemn people for their personhood,
and they can often be sought out by others for matter of practical solutions to common every day
problems. People typically have respect for the intuitive understanding of ENTps towards them and
appreciate their loyalty in personal matters. It is not like an ENTp to betray a friend in need.

As an ENTp, career satisfaction means doing work that:

1. Gives me opportunities to engage in creative problem-solving and/or generating new and
innovative approaches to problems.
2. Lets me implement my innovative solutions in the creation of more efficiently functioning
systems.
3. Acknowledges and encourages my creativity, competency, and ability to improvise.
4. Lets me experience a variety of situations filled with fun, action, and excitement.
5. Follows a logical order and is based upon objective and fair standards, rather than the likes or
dislikes or one individual.
6. Lets me increase my professional and personal power and interact frequently with other
powerful people.
7. Lets me meet and have constant interaction with many different people, especially those I
respect.
8. Can be done in a rapidly changing, high-energy environment with significant interaction with
others.
9. Is done in an environment that is casual and unstructured; where I can experience a high degree
of personal freedom, time off, and the opportunity to operate in a spontaneous way.
 10.Allows me to design or start projects but does not require me to follow through with tedious
details.

Id,ego,superego
Behavior which falls short of the ideal self may be punished by the superego through guilt. The super-
ego can also reward us through the ideal self when we behave ‘properly’ by making us feel proud.If a
person’s ideal self is too high a standard, then whatever the person does will represent failure. The ideal
self and conscience are largely determined in childhood from parental values and how you were
brought up. Why are my expectations so high? Did I set them when I was younger? Was it something
my parents did? I dont feel like they had unreasonable expectations. Maybe its because they didnt push
me and didnt have high expectations that I t hurt and made large ones to overachieve and get there
love? But it only takes form in things I liked – like football, tennis, halo which I was def above
average. Regardless, I must admit that fallingshot of ideal self has caused great pain and depression in
my life. I elieve it likely is cause of my dads anxiety;aned why he dislikes and likely hurts to be around
tom who he sees as les intelligent charlatan although is valued more by society.
What would make me feel inline with ideal self? Respected for my intelligence is number one. And
truthfully thats prob a big problem against my success because intelligence is but 25%approx and it
takes good haits, and non cerebral traits. This is probly why I am extroveted, because I want to be liked
and validated and people to confirm my intelligence. Why do I need this though? Why do I have such a
srong desire. And im not sure if its the super ego or id or both that have part of this. Was I insecure as a
kid that I was not smart – or did my parents make me believe I ws not so I am tryng to
overcompensate?

Model A - The Socionics Cognitive Function Model

Leading function (#1)

The leading function, also called the base, program, or simply first function, is
an individual's most dominant psychic function. It describes in general terms the
person's most comfortable thinking patterns, perspective on life, state of mind,
and behavioral style as well as their positive motivational forces (what they
pursue most vigorously when they have a choice). The leading function is critical
to interpersonal dynamics because people constantly and inadvertently make
judgments, assessments, and assumptions based on it. These comments and
judgments portray a particular set of core values and share a common vector or
general message, and those who the person interacts closely with must be
accepting of this message for interaction to be cohesive and compatible.

Creative function (#2)

This function describes the primary mode of application of the base function. If
the base function forms the core of the individual's personal quests and interests
("What's in it for me?", "What do I want to be?"), the creative function describes
his main instrument for interacting with the rest of society ("How do I make
contact with other people?"). For extroverts this means creating a context for
people to interact within, and for introverts — creating a product worthy of being
included in interaction. When people get to use their creative function to help
others' problems, they feel needed and fulfilled and begin to live more fully.

Role function (#3)

When a person is actively using his base function, the role function is essentially
turned off. The two cannot both be "on" at the same time, because they represent
two opposing approaches to similar things.

Because of this opposition, the more one gets carried away with one's base
function, the more the role function is ignored or suppressed. People are generally
somewhat aware of this suppression and perceive it as a personal weakness that
needs to be "worked on" in order to meet other people's expectations and achieve
something in society. It is typical for people to periodically work on their role
function in order to correct imbalances in their life and improve their weak areas.
However, these attempts are generally sporadic and are forgotten as soon as the
perceived problem begins to go away and the person once again becomes carried
away with their usual lifestyle which is dominated by their base function. Thus,
development of the role function is more like patching up leaks than building a
complete, self-sufficient structure. Often individuals wish they could build up their
role function and become "supermen", but an excessive focus on this unreachable
goal brings disappointment, because the base function always wins anyways.

Vulnerable function (#4)

The vulnerable function is also called the Point or Place of Least Resistance
(PoLR) or sensitive function. The element in this function creates a feeling of
frustration and inadequacy. A person does not understand the importance of this
element entirely, and it can easily lead to painful consequences if not adequately
considered.
However, to directly engage this function creates feelings of insecurity and
distress. One reason why the vulnerable function is so difficult to engage is
because three other conscious functions come before it, making this one the most
difficult to comprehend. Often an alternative approach may be found from the
view of the mobilizing function. Because of the psychological disincentives to
using the vulnerable function, people usually try to ignore information related to
it, and in extreme cases do so even in situations where it is most relevant. Even
with a theoretical understanding of how this element works, it is difficult to turn it
into practical norms of behavior. One can "develop" the vulnerable function by
recognizing that it is actually important in certain real-life circumstances.

Suggestive function (#5)

The suggestive function is also called the dual-seeking function. The subject
finds it difficult to be overwhelmed by this element, since it perfectly
complements and drives the activity of the leading function. The more it is
present in his daily life, the more he will naturally adapt to its presence. They are
easily entertained by this kind of information, and its sustained presence creates
a soothing psychological effect. If someone experiences a deficiency of it in his
environment, he may attempt to supply it himself, but become soon exhausted.
Unlike the mobilizing function, concentrated and prolonged doses from other
people are often received positively.
People focus deeply on the use of this function in day-to-day life, always
attempting to digest information received from the environment through this
aspect of reality. This is because it complements the leading function, making an
individual not only more understanding but more satisfied about their pursuits in
the Ego.

Mobilizing function (#6)

The mobilizing function is also called the activating function and the hidden
agenda function. Help in this element is appreciated, but past a certain point is
seen as excessive. The subject is more comfortable using this function than the
suggestive function but still can only use it sporadically. If he isn't careful and
directs it at an individual who does not value it, he will likely meet a harsh
response, since they are almost sure to see it as a puerile gesture

Ignoring function (#7)

The ignoring function is also called the observing, or limiting function.
A person has very little use of this element, as it is the rival image of the base
function, representing an antithetical approach to the same domain. It lies in the
subconscious as a persistent annoyance to the individual. Therefore, he or she
tries to ignore it. When lectured by another on the use of the ignoring function,
the individual sees it as superfluous information, for he or she knows how to use
the function well, but chooses not to use it in favor of his or her more convenient
base function. Usually the base function creates byproducts relating to the
ignoring function, but the way it describes such information is very carefully
chosen to fit the view of the leading function.

A person limits the expression of this element in public (in favor of the base
function), but sometimes uses it extensively in private, and can call upon it when
necessary. The extreme avoidance of this function can make it appear weak at
times. However, when engaged it does not cause the same kind of psychological
stress as a weak function, instead creating a kind of boredom or malaise.

Demonstrative function (#8)

A person uses this element mainly as a kind of game, or to ridicule those who he
thinks take it too seriously. They often intentionally go against its conventional
usage simply to prove a point in favor of their creative funciton. However, this
function is used quite often in private, to produce information of its element to
support their creative function when focusing on making contact with the external
world.

A person will often have just as sophisticated an understanding of this function as

his or her leading function. Unlike the ignoring function it plays a major part in a
person's worldview, since as the vulnerable function of one's dual it requires
especially delicate attention. Thus, when a person is given information regarding
the element in the demonstrative function by someone else, they will tend to take
it as obvious information that is irrelevant to completely focus on. One will often
use the demonstrative function to defend and further support their beliefs made
in the vulnerable function. The demonstrative function is easiest function to use
(after the base function) yet often occurs sporadically. When one experiences a
problem regarding this function, one must correct it as it does play a vital part in a
person's worldview.

Model A's MBTI equivalent would be the Beebe model. In fact, they both pretty
much are similar presentations when you get to the non-valued functions.

ILE Intertype relations

Identical Dual Activator Mirror
ILE SEI ESE LII
Kindred Semi-dual Benefactor Supervisor
IEE SLI LSE EII
Super-Ego Extinguishment Quasi-identical Conflictor
SEE ILI LIE ESI
Business Mirage Beneficiary Supervisee
SLE IEI EIE LSI
Isfp -my dual although I cant think of someone ive been close to. Maybe mel. Think maybe charlie.
istp – my semi dual, which I can see as many of close friends have been such as erich and zach friesner.
My identical would be arter.
Arter may actually be my activity

Myers-Briggs: ENTP
Socionics: ENTp
Jung: NeTi
Model A: ILE
Enneagram: E4-E5-E9 range

Defense mechinism I have

Rationalisation occurs when a person attempts to explain or create excuses for an event or action in
rational terms. In doing so, they are able to avoid accepting the true cause or reason resulting in the
present situation.

Repression is perhaps the most significant of defense mechanisms in that repressed feelings and
impulses can lead to the use of many other mechanisms. According to Sigmund Freud’s
psychodynamic theory, the impulsive desires of the psyche’s id are prevented by being fulfilled by the
ego, which observes the Reality Principle - that our actions are restricted by our environment, including
social etiquette. Moreover, the superego acts as our moral compass, inducing feelings of guilt at having
experienced the irrational desires that the id creates.Tensions inevitably arise between the id, ego and
super ego and the guilt induced by the latter can lead to feelings of anxiety and shame. In order to live
with such feelings, Freud believed that our minds repress the thoughts at the source of our anxieties:
instead of contemplating them consciously, they are ‘bottled up’ in the unconscious mind, emerging in
symbolic dreams and unexplained patterns of behavior.

The self serving bias arises from our need to protect the ego from self criticism and to defend ourselves
from the complaints of others. We show a self serving bias when we exaggerate the importance of our
own achievements - after passing a test, we might over-estimate the significance of that particular
exam, and take credit for completing it without acknowledging the role that tutors played in our
success. Similarly, when faced with potential criticism we might deflect blame, apportioning
responsibility for failure to anybody but ourselves. Whilst many of us show signs of this self serving
bias, it can be an ineffective method of defence as it distort our view of reality and our ability to
rationalise and interpret events effectively.

We all engage in wishful thinking to some extent in an attempt to avoid facing undesirable realities. A
football fan might deceive themselves that the ailing team that they support will miraculously turn
themselves around and win all of the future matches of the season. Such wishful thinking enables the
person to avoid disappointment and sadness for as long as possible.

When life seems mundane or distressing, people often use fantasy as a way of escaping reality. They
may fantasise about winning the lottery or idealised outcomes of their lives changing for the better in
some way. Fantasies help us to explore alternatives to situations that we are unhappy with but
unrealistic expectations of them being fulfilled can lead to us losing touch with reality and taking more
viable actions to improve our lives.

When a perceived situation creates anxiety, one convenient option is sometimes to avoid it. Although
avoidance can provide an escape from a particular event, it neglects to deal with the cause of the
anxiety. For example, a person might know that they are are due to give a stressful presentations to
colleagues at work, and take a sick day in order to avoid giving it. Avoidance in this situation might be
only a short term option, however, if the presentation is rescheduled to another day. Someone may also
avoid thinking about something which causes anxiety, preferring to leave it unresolved instead of
confronting it.
At midlife onward, the ENTP’s focus turns toward the inferior function, Introverted Sensing.
The underdeveloped Introverted Sensing of the ENTP comes out in a childish way when they are under
stress; they become extremely indulgent in material pleasure or put their focus on unimportant details.
But in midlife, there is an unconscious shift and desire to develop that inferior function in order to
achieve wholeness and continual growth. It is an uncomfortable but necessary transition.
Here are some simple exercises to consciously develop the Introverted Sensing function:

When you are given a task, do not jump into it immediately. Instead break the task down into
sequential steps and allocate a certain time to each task before proceed to execute the task.

Recall a significant event that happened before in your life, recount the details of this event: the
sights, sound, smell, touch and taste. Do not try to make connections or consider implications, but
consider the event as it is.

Close your eyes and observe your bodily functions: your breathing and the sensation that your body
is feeling right no (why I need to meditate daily) exersize also seems to help although may be more
extroverted sensing.

the inferior or anima/animus is often called "the bridge" to the unconscious).

How to own it:

We're making others into "opposing personalities" ("negative heroes" or "villains"), but we're really our
own villain.

What is trying to be brought into consciousness: the need for the rejected orientation. We see others as
a bad child or binding us, but we're being a bad child or binding ourselves.

What is trying to be brought into consciousness is the perspective orientation opposite the dominant
one our "child" complex runs to. In severe trauma, the Self uses it to try to keep information out of
consciousness, and bind a person from taking action that might expose the ego to more damaging
content.

ENxP's "may get caught up in a binge of being in the physical moment; excessively seeking stimulation
or following the urge to sleep or do nothing" (Berens)
ExTJ's Social harmony might be manipulated for personal goals (and at the expense of real harmony),
rather than shaping one's own behavior