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Philippi, Megan

From: Bannister, Kelly


Sent: Sunday, March 18, 2018 7:18 PM
To: Michael Bailey
Cc: Brian Doyle; Benedict, David
Subject: Kevin Ollie
Attachments: Ollie Packet.pdf

Michael, 
 
In response to your March 13, 2018 request for information, the University is producing the attached materials used to 
determine that there exists just cause for the termination of Kevin Ollie as set forth in David Benedict’s March 10, 2018 
letter.  
 
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with FERPA. For consistency and privacy, names and personally identifiable information of prospective students has 
been similarly redacted.  
 
Thanks,  
Kelly 
 
Kelly L. Bannister, Esq. 
Associate Director and Attorney 
 
Office of Faculty & Staff Labor Relations 
University of Connecticut 
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INTERVIEW OF
UNIVERSITY OF CONNECTICUT

RR: -- and I just want to note that


the interview is being recorded, but prior to
starting the recording, I asked if it was okay
that we recorded today, and he said it was; is that
correct, ?

Yes.

RR: Okay. Awesome. And I just want


to note on the record as well that we have a verbal
agreement with the institution, who is also
recording, to keep their recording confidential
pursuant to Division I Bylaw 19.5.8, and they agree
not to share that with third parties, is that --

CS: That's correct.

RR: All right. So prior to going on


the record, you were handed a form entitled the NCAA
interview notice form. Did you have a chance to read
that form?

Yes.

RR: Okay. Do you understand that the


purpose of this interview is to determine whether you
have any knowledge of or involvement in any
violations of NCAA legislation?

Yes.

RR: Okay.

RR: Do you understand that you may be


represented by personal legal counsel, and you have
chosen to do so during this interview?

Yes.

RR: Okay. Do you understand that


NCAA Bylaw 10.1 obligates you to provide truthful and
complete information in this interview?

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Yes.

RR: Do you understand that if it is


ever determined that you provided false or misleading
information or withheld information in this
interview, then this could constitute a violation of
the NCAA principles of ethical conduct and could
impact your eligibility as a student athlete?

Yes.

RR: Okay. Do you understand that the


information provided during this interview may be
shared with other NCAA departments?

Yes.

RR: Okay. And do you have any


questions regarding any part of the interview notice
form?

No.

RR: Okay. And did you sign and date


that form?

Yes.

RR: Okay. Perfect. All right. I'll


take that out of your way for you. So thank you for
bearing with me through that. I know that that's a
lot of introductory things there.
All right. So, , what is a good
phone number for you?

RR: And what's a good e-mail address


for you?

@UCONN.EDU.

RR: Perfect. All right. And, ,


what year are you here at UConn?

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RR:

RR: Okay.

RR: Okay. And where did you go to


high school at?

I went to

RR: Okay.

High School.

RR: ? Where is that at?

s.

RR: Okay.

Yes.

RR: And then you went to


?

Yes.

RR: And where is that at?

RR: Okay.

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Yeah.

RR: Okay. And then you went to


for --

RR: r. Okay. Got you. What


schools -- and I know I'm making -- you're ,
, but thinking back,
what schools were recruiting you back then?

I think
, and there was a couple others --

RR: Yeah.

-- but I didn't really pay too


much attention.

RR: No, that's good. You remembered


a few. That's great. So what kind of drew you to
UConn? What made you make that decision?

I'd say the style of play and


then just previous guards in my same situation.

RR: Got you. Got you. You answered


my next question. I was going to say, do you play
, so --

Yeah.

RR: You do? Okay. Got you. Who was


your primary recruiting coach during that time?

Karl Hobbs.

RR: Karl Hobbs?

Yes.

RR: Okay. And he's no longer here;


correct?

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No.

RR: Did you have -- was there anybody


else on staff that you talked to other than Coach
Hobbs during that time, or --

Not really, no.

RR: Not really?

No.

RR: Okay. Did you take any visits


here to UConn during your recruitment?

I came for the -- what's it


called? The --

AF: First Night?

-- First Night. Yeah.

RR: Okay.

First Night.

RR: First Night. Did you come by


yourself or with your team?

Yeah, .

RR: Okay. ?

Yeah.

RR: did you play with?

RR: Okay. And that's out of


Massachusetts, I'm guessing?

Yes.

RR: Okay. What -- what area is that


out of?

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It's kind of kids from all over.

RR: Okay. Got you. Who was your


coach for that?

RR: And how many years did you play


with them?

Like I want to say two or three


years.

RR: Okay. Was that all while you


were in high school?

Yeah.

RR: Okay. So during that First Night


event when you were here, what did y'all do?

We just drove up and we came to


the -- well, it was pretty much we just came to the
event, and that was it.

RR: Okay.

And we drove back.

RR: Did you -- because it's kind of a


kickoff event; right?

Yeah.

RR: Okay. So did y'all eat here or


do anything like that?

No, not that I remember. We came


kind of late, and we just kind of got our tickets to
the event, and then just watched it, and that was it.

RR: Okay. Did you sit with


or --

Yes.

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RR: Okay. Did you ever go meet
anybody, like talk to any coaches or anything during
that time?

No.

RR: Okay. Did Coach Ollie come talk


to y'all at all or --

Yeah. He said what's up to


pretty much everybody.

RR: Got you. I'm sure he's kind of


busy, probably, during --

Yeah.

RR: -- during that. Did you see any


former players, former UConn players or anything at
that event, do you remember?

No.

RR: Okay. Other than coming to the


First Night event, did you take an official visit
here, do you remember?

Not that -- I don't remember --

RR: Okay.

-- if it was official or -- I
don't think I did -- actually, yes I did. I did an
official visit, and I think it was one day.

RR: Okay. Do you remember what you


did?

I think we came up, and we


watched a practice, and that was it.

RR: Okay. Who were you -- who were


you with? Did somebody come with you?

Yeah, my -- both my parents.

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RR: Both your parents? You said you
-- this was an official visit?

Yes.

RR: Okay. You said you watched


practice. Did y'all do anything else besides that
while you were here?

No, that was it.

RR: Did y'all eat while y'all were


here or anything?

Just like breakfast with my


parents. But other than that, no.

RR: Okay. Was the coaches with y'all


during that or --

Yeah. My parents met like the


academic advisor and stuff like that.

RR: Okay. When you were here


watching practice, did you -- did you have an
opportunity to workout with the team or anything like
that, do you remember?

No.

RR: Okay. Kind of a shorter --

Yeah.

RR: -- trip, so. Did -- did the team


eat after practice, do you know? Do you remember?

No, I don't remember.

RR: Okay. So was there -- so you


probably -- that's my next question, did you eat with
the team after practice, do you know?

No.

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RR: So just to make sure I have it
straight. So for that day, did you -- did you stay
overnight, or did you come for like a quick visit?

No, I stayed overnight.

RR: Stayed overnight. How many


nights?

Just one.

RR: Just one? Do you remember other


than that official visit and the First Night, did you
come on any unofficial visits or anything, do you
remember?

No.

RR: Okay. Was there any time during


that recruitment that -- that you were up here at
campus other than those times? Okay. Tom?

TH: No, no.

RR: Clint?

CS: No.

RR: Okay. Annie? Okay. All right.


, thank you for that. That was very helpful.
Wanted to -- I'm going to transition
several times, but I'll give you a heads up each time
I do. So wanted to ask about a staff member by the
name of Dave Sevush. Do you remember Dave?

Yes.

RR: Okay. What did Dave do? What


was his job?

I think he -- his job was really


like with the plays and stuff. Like he helped some
guys get the plays. Like he put them on Hudl and
stuff like that, so.

RR: Okay. Did -- when you say he put

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them on Hudl, was that kind of like film that he put
up there?

Yeah.

RR: Was there ever a time where


players would go meet with Dave for him to go over
that with them or anything like that, do you know?

I'm not -- not that I'm -- not


that I know of.

RR: Okay.

I think if guys just had a


question, they would go to him because he usually
handled the whole playbook and was willing to give
guys copies of the playbook.

RR: What kind of questions would they


have for him, do you know?

I have no idea.

RR: Okay. Did you ever go meet with


him?

No.

RR: Okay. Do you ever remember --


did coaches ever say, go meet with Dave to go over
stuff or anything like that, do you remember?

No.

RR: Okay. So how would the -- the


other players know to ask Dave questions and stuff
like that?

Well, I think that was just --


that's all I know of him really, was that he worked
with the plays and uploaded them to Hudl.

RR: Okay. So did you ever see


anybody go talk to him or ask him questions?

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No, I didn't.

RR: Okay. Tom?

TH: I don't have any questions.

RR: Okay. Clint?

CS: I don't.

RR: Annie? Okay. All right. ,


I'm going to switch gears again on you. Wanted to
ask about -- during the preseason, so before y'all
start like your, you know, practices, formal
practices and those types of things. Do y'all have
any pickup games or anything like that that y'all do?

Yeah. Well, it's not like


mandatory pickup. It's kind of just like everybody
trying to play basketball, like get used to playing
with each other.

RR: Got you. How do y'all find out


about those?

We'll just text each other like,


who's trying to play pickup.

RR: Would the managers ever send a


text?

No.

RR: No? Do y'all have a -- like a


group text that managers send to tell you about
practice or anything like that?

Yeah.

RR: Okay. So do you recall any time


in the preseason managers sending you times for
pickup games or anything?

No, no.

RR: Do you ever remember anything


called captain's practices?

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No, we never had those.

RR: Okay. Got you. So do you


remember any pickup games where the managers would
keep -- run the score board, keep time, that type of
thing?

No. We usually just have whoever


is not on just do that.

RR: So you don't recall seeing them


at any pickup --

Huh-uh.

RR: -- games? Okay.

TH: Did anyone keep stats at these


pickup games?

No.

TH: And you didn't see any managers


at these pickup games preseason?

Huh-uh.

TH: That's no? Okay.

RR: Clint? Annie? Okay. All right.


, my next question is really -- is just -- it's
going to be kind of wide-ranging because I'm just
trying to get a good picture of practice, okay? So
that's what we're going to talk about.
So run me through what happens -- I
know no two days are the same.

No.

RR: Ever. But kind of run me through


kind of the normal course of events, kind of the
average day. What do y'all do whenever you report
for, you know, mandatory activities or things you
have to be at, and what do y'all do all the way
through the end of practice, kind of how does that

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work?

Well, it depends. If it's after


a game, we'll have film, to watch film on the game.
And then we go out, stretch, do a couple of drills, I
don't know like five-on-five, and then we'll hit some
free throws up. He'll split the guards up, guards
and bigs, to work on like skills training, like your
shots up. And the bigs work on like postmoves.
And then we'll come back, go through
like our offense, go through the teamwork. Getting
ready to play, we'll go through their offense and
their sets. And then sometimes we'll play -- like
with the other team's offense, like play against it
live. And that's pretty much it. Probably shoot
more free throws, and then that's usually it.

RR: Got you. So that -- you said if


it's after a game, you watch film sometimes?

Yeah.

RR: How long does that?

It depends if we play bad or not.

RR: On average?

Usually like 15 minutes, maybe.


20.

RR: You said after that y'all go in


to warmup or something like that --

Yeah.

RR: -- stretch?

Yeah.

RR: How long does that normally last?

Like five minutes.

RR: Does the strength and


conditioning coach, is he ever out there leading

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that?

Yeah.

RR: The stretching?

Yes.

RR: Okay. And then you said one of


the drills -- or one of the things that y'all do,
y'all divide into like bigs and --

Guards.

RR: Okay. Got you. Do you -- kind


of in your experience, have you ever -- do you think
had practice go over four hours a day?

No.

RR: Okay. How long does practice


normally last all together?

I want to say like two hours.

RR: Okay. On average?

Yeah. Hour 30.

RR: Has there ever been days where


you thought things that you had to be at for the team
went over four hours?

No.

RR: Okay. Do you always get an off


day?

Yeah.

RR: Okay. Tom?

TH: Huh-uh.

RR: Clint?

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CS: Nope.

RR: All right. , switching


gears on you again. I'm going to ask, do you know a
gentlemen by the name of Derrick Hamilton?

Yeah.

RR: You do? Who is -- who is


Derrick?

Well, I don't like know him, know


him, but like I know of him and seen him before.

RR: Okay. How do you know him?

He was working and


out. I think that was like, what, two years ago?
Yeah.

RR: and were -- are


they former teammates or --

Yeah.

RR: When was that, do you recall?

In like the summer, after the


school year was done.

RR: Okay. Was and


were they still on the team, or do you remember?

No, it was -- it was -- the


season was over. They graduated and stuff.

RR: They had both graduated?

Yeah.

RR: Is that the only time that you


saw Derrick Hamilton on campus?

Yeah.

RR: Okay. Where was it at that you

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saw him at?

Working out?

RR: Uh-huh, yeah.

Where was that? I honestly don't


remember. I don't remember.

RR: You don't remember where that was


at?

Yeah.

RR: Was that here on campus?

I believe -- yeah, yeah,


definitely on campus. But I don't remember where.

RR: You don't remember what gym it


was or --

Yeah.

RR: -- what area? Did -- when --


what brought you to see that? What were you doing
whenever you saw that, saw them working out?

I think I might -- I think I


might have seen them on like Snapchat or something.

RR: Okay.

Yeah.

RR: So either like or


might have --

Yeah.

RR: -- done a Snapchat story or


something on it?

Yeah.

RR: Did you -- how many times did you

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see -- see them together?

Them or him?

RR: While --

I never like seen them together.


I seen him.

RR: Okay. When did you see -- how


many times did you see Derrick Hamilton?

Probably like a handful of times.


Not too many.

RR: What was he doing each time that


you saw him? Was he in the offices?

Usually I see him in the hallway,


just when I was walking to go lift or something.

RR: Okay. And what time of the year


was that when you saw him, each time?

It was like -- I know the season


was over. I think it was -- we were doing actual
lifts, so it was around then.

RR: Okay. Did you ever see him


during the school year?

No.

RR: And you said -- was that after


the -- what year was that that you saw him? Was that
your --

My -- my freshman year, yeah.

RR: Okay. So like right after your


freshman year?

No.

RR: Did anyone ever ask if you wanted

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to have a workout session with Derrick? Other than
and , did you hear of anybody else
working out with Derrick, or --

Huh-uh.

TH: We heard a report of a third


student athlete. Do you remember his name? I can't
read my notes.

CS:

TH: Did you ever see


Derrick Hamilton -- is there a ?

AF: , yeah.

CS: Yeah.

TH: Did you --

No.

TH: -- ever see Derrick workout with


Daniel Hamilton?

Not that I'm aware of.

TH: And what year was Daniel Hamilton


during this time period.

. He was either
a sophomore or junior --

HG: ?

AF: was a year after you;


right? When you got here?

Yeah. So he was a --

AF: And you were here for


--

HG:

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.

AF: So he must have come in the

Yeah. I think he was a year


ahead of me.

AF: Oh, so he came the year before


you then?

I think so.

AF: We'll clarify.

Yeah.

AF: (Unintelligible.)

RR: Tom, did you have any other


follow-up?

TH: Do you know -- did Derrick


Hamilton have a relationship with Coach Kevin Ollie?

I have no idea.

TH: Okay. And do you know how


Derrick got to campus, why he was working these guys
out?

Yeah, I don't know.

TH: And I'm sorry if you asked this,


but did you ask what exactly -- how he was working
out and ?

How?

TH: Yeah.

What do you mean by that?

TH: What exactly -- was he doing


basketball drills, was he doing conditioning? What
was he doing?

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Well, I just seen the Snapchat,
and they were in the gym, and someone was shooting,
and I seen him in the background, so.

TH: Okay.

I'm not -- I'm not sure.

TH: Do you guys have questions?

RR: Annie, you have any follow-up?

AF: No, we were just trying to make


sure our timeline is correct. So you saw -- you
started in ?

Yeah.

AF: I'm getting you guys all


confused. And then you saw Derrick at the end of
your year --

Yeah.

AF: -- so that would have been summer


of 2016?

Yeah.

AF: Okay.

HG: And you played your -- your


year here was and 's last year
here?

Yeah.

HG: So y'all overlapped by a year?

Yeah.

HG: Okay. So do you know when -- you


said it was maybe sometime in the summer?

Like the -- yeah, the end of the

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school year.

HG: So this -- Juneish of '16?

Yeah, I would -- yeah.

HG: Okay. Summer, but --

Yeah.

HG: -- it wasn't during the season;


right?

No.

HG: And did y'all -- y'all didn't


make the tournament that year; right?

No. We -- we did.

HG: Was that the year you lost -- we


lost to Kansas?

Yeah.

AF: Uh-huh.

HG: Okay. So the season probably


ended mid-March?

Yeah, I think we played -- we


played two games, closed the first weekend.

HG: Okay.

TH: Would it have been the summer, or


could it have been April or May of 2016?

No, I think it was the end of the


school year.

TH: The school year ends like the


middle of May.

Yeah -- I guess. I'm not sure


when the school year --

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AF: Usually graduation is like the
second week in May.

TH: Okay.

RR: Okay. , just to clarify, so


you said that you saw a Snapchat or Snap with
and --

Yeah.

RR: -- and you saw Derrick in the


background; is that correct?

Yeah.

RR: Wanted to ask about those times


that you actually saw him in person. Where was that
at?

I was in -- walking to -- getting


ready to lift in -- what's it called? Werth.

RR: Oh, okay. In the Werth Center?

Yeah.

RR: Where was he -- where was he at?

Just in the hall -- well, I was


walking down the hallway. He was walking that way.

RR: Okay. Was that the same time


period that you saw the Snapchat?

No. The Snap was kind of later


on. I think I seen -- I seen him when the season was
over, and we didn't -- we kind of had time off, and
we were -- we had optional lifts, or whatever, so I
went in to go do an extra lift, and I had seen
him on my way.

RR: Okay. So when you say that was


like right -- that was when the season ended?

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Yeah.

RR: So was that around April that you


saw him in the office, or late March?

I would say more like Aprilish.

RR: Okay. And I'm asking you to


think back. I know that's --

Yeah.

RR: -- it's been a bit. Other than


that time that you saw him in the hallway when you
were going over to lift, did you ever see him in
person again?

No.

RR: That's a no? Okay. Did you ever


hear about any other guys on the team talk about
Derrick Hamilton, or did he ever come up in any other
conversation?

No.

RR: Okay.

TH: So Russell's initial question at


the very beginning of this was: Do you know Derrick
Hamilton, and you said, yes. It sounds like you only
saw him once in the hallway at the Werth Center, and
then you saw a picture of him on Snapchat, and those
are the only two times that you've saw him?

No, I've seen him a couple of


times in the hallway.

TH: Okay, a couple of times, okay.

Yeah.

TH: So -- the very first question


that Russell asked, do you know Derrick Hamilton, and
you said, yes, how do you know Derrick Hamilton?

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Well, I don't know him, know him.

TH: Yeah.

I know -- like if I seen him, I


would say hello.

TH: Okay. And then did you know what


he was doing here, or what his role was --

No, no.

TH: Had you had conversations with


him?

No, just short conversation, hey,


what's up, how you doing?

TH: And then so who -- did someone


introduce you to him? So how did you know who he
was?

Well, I was walking down the


hallway. He knew who I was. He said hello to me,
and then I introduced myself, and from there, we kind
of, I guess, knew each other -- or knew of each
other.

TH: So he introduced himself to you


as well? That's a yes?

Yeah.

TH: Okay. All right. All right.


Thanks.

RR: Did he say in that introductory


time what he was -- what he was doing on campus or
anything like that?

No. I wasn't really too into it.


I was just kind of being friendly.

RR: Okay.

TH: Did he ever wear UConn gear at

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any time?

No, not -- no, not that I can


remember.

TH: Did he wear like athletic gear?

No -- well, just like -- no, I


don't think so.

TH: Okay.

RR: Clint? Okay. All right. ,


wanted to ask about Carlos Daniel. Who is -- do you
know Carlos?

Yeah.

RR: Who is Carlos?

He was our strength coach for a


little bit.

RR: Okay. How long was he here, do


you remember?

He was here majority of the


summer and -- I don't think he -- I don't think he
was coaching us -- or our strength coach by the
season -- by the time the season started, so like a
month into school maybe? A month or two into school.

RR: Okay. Got you. And who was the


strength coach before Carlos?

Coach I. I don't really know his


-- how to pronounce his first name.

RR: That's all right. Was it Travis,


his first name?

Yeah.

RR: Were their strength and


conditioning sessions, were they different in any
way? Did they have like different techniques that

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they used?

Yeah, definitely.

RR: Okay. What was different about


Carlos' strength sessions?

I think he kind of like just


constructed the like -- the like weights considered
to like who the person is and like what they're
trying to do with their body, whereas coach I kind of
had everybody lift like a set weight.

RR: Did y'all ever have any strength


sessions out on the court or do anything like that?

Like conditioning.

RR: What would y'all do exactly?

Just like we'll do like -- there


would be a whole bunch of like different like
activities set up where one is like the ropes, ones
is like flip the tire, stuff like that.

RR: Y'all ever have anything that


y'all had to use a basketball for?

Not really. Maybe one drill


where we just like tipped the ball off, but it was
like a conditioning workout.

RR: Okay. Tom?

TH: Can you -- can you describe that


drill a little bit more, the one with the basketball
where you tipped the drill?

Well, you just throw it off --


like the first person -- like the whole team gets in
a straight line and you just have to tip the ball off
the backboard, and then you have to run all the way
back to the end of the line, clear half court, and
then like if the ball touches the floor, we have to
start all over.

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TH: Was it a regular basketball or a
medicine ball?

Like a weighted like basketball.

TH: Weighted basketball?

Yeah. Medicine ball, yeah.

TH: How much did it weight, do you


remember?

Not too heavy. Like a couple of


pounds.

TH: Okay.

I'm not sure exactly.

TH: But it was not -- was it a


basketball or --

No, it was like one of the


weighted --

TH: Okay. Did it have the same shape


or look as a basketball or --

Yeah.

TH: Oh, okay. All right. Thanks.

RR: Clint?

CS: Nope.

RR: Okay. Annie?

AF: I'm good. Thank you.

RR: Okay. All right. Wanted to --


I'm going to switch gears on you again, . I
want to ask about a former recruit. His name is
. Do you remember ?

Yeah.

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RR: Do you ever remember him coming
to campus?

Yeah.

RR: Did he ever come on an official


visit, do you know? Or a visit to campus?

I'm not sure.

RR: Okay. Do you remember a time


where there was like a meal at Coach Ollie's house
and was there? Like a gathering?

Not that -- not that I can


remember. I don't think -- not that I can remember.

RR: Okay. When did you see him? Did


you ever see him on campus or anything like that?

Yeah. I think he drove up,


maybe, with some of his friends just so come hang
out.

RR: What -- did y'all ever interact


or did you ever -- where would you see him at
exactly?

We were kind of like around


campus, pretty much.

RR: Did you ever see him at a game?

Not that I can remember.

RR: Okay. I was going to say, you're


probably a little bit busy during that time --

Yeah.

RR: That's okay. Did you ever see


anybody with him? Like who would he come to campus
with?

I've only seen him come with like

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friends, like other basketball players who was, I
think, on his team.

RR: Okay. So you don't -- do you


recall a team meal or something at Coach Ollie's
house that was at?

No.

RR: Okay. Tom?

TH: Yeah, I want to ask a little bit


different question. You all practice at the Werth
Center; is that right?

Yeah.

TH: And then sometimes do recruits


come over there and either practice with you or watch
you guys practice?

I think some have come and


watched us practice.

TH: Okay. And then I know upstairs


there's like a dining area for you guys to go get
meals; is that right?

Yeah.

TH: Are there any occasions where


sometimes recruits will go up there and have a meal
when you guys are eating a meal?

I don't think so.

TH: You've never seen any recruits up


there eating?

No.

TH: Even -- whether for a visit or


anything like that?

No.

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TH: Okay.

RR: Clint? Anything?

CS: No.

RR: Okay. Annie? All right. ,


wanted to -- switching gears on you again.
Wanted to ask you about a staff member
by the name of Danny Griffin. Do you remember Danny?

Yeah.

RR: Okay. What was Danny's job, do


you remember?

I'm not really -- I'm not really


sure.

RR: That's okay. What -- what would


your interactions with Danny -- or what would you go
to Danny for?

I just was -- he seemed to --


well, when I first got here, he knew a lot about me
and, I don't know, I kind of would listen to some of
the stuff he would talk about. Sometimes he would
talk about like basketball and then other things --
other times he was just like a good like -- he seemed
to be like a good guy who would like always preach
like it's bigger than basketball. You got to think
of life like outside of basketball.

RR: Okay. Did Danny ever come to


practice, do you know? Do you remember?

Maybe a couple of times. I'm not


really sure.

RR: Do you remember what he would do


at practice when he came? Do you remember that?

Nothing.

RR: Okay.

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Yeah.

RR: Did he sit off to the side or --

Yeah, I believe so.

RR: Okay. Do you know where at


exactly?

I mean, he would kind of be on


the (unintelligible), I think. I haven't really seen
him there too many times, so.

RR: Okay.

Yeah.

RR: Did -- did you see Danny on


campus a lot, or was he around a lot?

Yeah, definitely.

RR: Okay. What was he doing mainly


when you saw him?

He wasn't really -- never really


did too much. He would always speak, say what's up,
and he was kind of -- just always had good energy, so
--

RR: Uh-huh.

-- that was really it.

RR: Did he ever, you know, go over --


give any advice about the game or anything or about
practice or anything like that?

Sometimes he'll talk about


basketball, but rarely. It's more -- he more was the
guy who talked always about like having like a back
up plan and stuff like that.

RR: When you talked about basketball,


what would y'all talk about?

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I think -- well, it was during my
freshman year, so he was really -- I was kind of
struggling throughout the course of the season, so he
was kind of just telling me to play -- play like
myself, like what got me here, and just remember
where I came from type of -- stuff like that.

RR: So motivational?

Yeah.

RR: Did you ever see Danny with any


recruits giving them a tour or anything like that?

No.

RR: No? Tom?

TH: Do you know whether Danny did any


recruiting for UConn?

No, I'm not aware of that.

RR: Okay. Clint?

CS: Nope. Nothing.

RR: Okay. Annie? No. All right.


, do you know an individual by the name of Boo
Willingham?

No -- no.

RR: No? Okay. Can I show you a


picture and see if you've ever seen this individual
before?

Yeah.

RR: Okay. For the record, I'm


showing a picture entitled Enforcement
Exhibit 2. Okay. It's not a great picture, but
you'll be able to see.

Yeah.

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RR: Have you seen that -- that
individual?

Yeah.

RR: Okay. Where have you seen him


at?

Couple of games.

RR: Where was he normally at whenever


you saw him?

Usually in the stands, yeah.

RR: Where would he sit at?

I mean, I don't -- I don't really


remember that.

RR: Did you ever see him -- was he


sitting behind the bench or --

Kind of -- yeah, kind of sort of.

RR: Okay. Did you ever see -- was


there any recruits that sat near Boo or that were
with him?

No, not that I'm aware of.

RR: Okay. Have you ever seen him at


the offices or anything? Or did he ever come to
practice or anything, watch y'all?

No.

RR: Okay. Do you know if he knows


Coach Ollie?

Well, I kind of just assumed,


yeah.

RR: What led you to that assumption?

Just like him always being

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around, and I just thought that that was like maybe
one of his friends.

RR: All right. When you say he was


all around, what do you mean?

Like I -- like when I see him at


the game, like usually like if I see like people
behind the bench or like in that area, I'll just
assume like they know someone on the coaching staff.
I've seen like their -- some of their like wives or
kids over there.

RR: Got you. There's a reason why


they're in that area; right?

Yeah.

RR: Okay. Tom?

TH: Do you know anything about --


anything else about Boo's connection to UConn
basketball?

No.

TH: Do you know whether he played


here or has any connections?

I have no idea if he played here.

TH: Okay. And do you know whether


Boo had any contact with any recruits at all?

No.

TH: Like did you ever see him with


?

No.

TH: Okay. No other questions.

RR: Clint? Okay. Annie? Okay. All


right. So you're almost done, . Thanks for
sticking with me.

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No, you're fine.

RR: Last question -- or last few


questions. Has there ever been a rumor on the team
or a feeling amongst the team that any one of your
teammates was paid or got anything to come to UConn?

No.

RR: Has anybody ever mentioned that


as a thought, like hey, I think so-and-so might have
got something to come here?

No.

RR: Tom?

TH: Nope.

RR: Clint? Annie? Okay. , has


anybody talked with you about your interview today --
with us today?

What do you mean?

RR: Has -- other than setting the


interview up and telling you what time to be here and
everything, has anybody asked you about it or talked
to you about it?

No.

RR: Okay. Have you talked to anybody


about -- that you had an interview with the NCAA
today?

My -- my father.

RR: Okay. That's perfectly fine.

Yeah.

RR: Okay. All right. , well I


thank you for your time tonight -- this evening,
sorry. I can't remember what time it is. We really

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appreciate it.
I do have a -- last few things to go
over with you, and it's just about confidentiality,
okay?

Uh-huh.

RR: But before I do that, did you


have anything that you wanted to add or clarify about
what we've talked about?

No.

RR: Okay. The last thing I need to


tell you is that NCAA legislation requires that you
help protect the integrity of this investigation;
therefore, as the investigation continues, we ask
that you're not permitted to speak with others about
what we've discussed today or any information related
to this investigation except that you may speak with
your personal legal counsel or others present in the
room, okay?
Failure to protect the integrity of
this investigation could result in an allegation that
you've violated the principles of ethical conduct
and/or the cooperative principle. So do you
understand those statements?

Yes.

RR: Okay. At some point after the


NCAA completes its investigation, someone else
involved as a party in this case or their attorney,
legal counsel, or representative may request to
interview you about matters related to this case, and
we encourage you to agree to speak with them just as
you've agreed to speak with us. This doesn't,
however, include any representatives of the media.
So we ask that you do not speak to the media if they
ask.
That can all be a bit confusing. Not
saying somebody will or will not ask to talk to you
about it, but if you do have any questions, we ask
that you reach out to your legal counsel or to us,
okay?

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Okay.

RR: And we'll help you with that. Do


you have any final questions for me, ?

No.

RR: Okay. All righty. Then I'll


note that this interview concluded at 6:10 p.m.
Eastern Time. Thank you, sir. Okay.

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INTERVIEW OF
UNIVERSITY OF CONNECTICUT
MARCH 6, 2018

RR: All right. So I'll note that it


is Tuesday, March 6th, 2018. It's 1:29 p.m.
Eastern Time. And I am in the offices at the
NCAA. and his counsel and Annie are at
UConn. And Clint and Henry are in the offices
at Lightfoot Franklin and White.
And for the purpose of voice
identification. I would like to ask each
person on the call to state their name and
their title. And we'll start with you folks
at UConn, okay?

AS: Anthony Spinella, attorney for

AF: Annie Fiorvanti, associate AD for


compliance at UConn.

BG: Bryan Gary, attorney for

RR: Clint?

CS: Clint Speegle, outside counsel,


University of Connecticut.

HG: Henry Gimenez, outside counsel


for UConn.

TH: And this is Tom Hosty. I'm one


of the NCAA directors of enforcement.

JD: And Jessica Doriot, assistant


coordinator of enforcement.

RR: And I'm Russell Register, one of



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the assistant directors of enforcement with


the NCAA. And I want to note prior to going
on the record, we asked if it was okay
if we recorded today, and , you said it
was; is that correct?

Yes.

RR: Okay. Also want to note for the


record that we have a verbal agreement with
the institution who is also recording to keep
their recording confidential and not to
release that to third parties; is that
correct, Clint?

CS: That's correct.

RR: Okay. All right. , before


going on the record today, you received a form
entitled the NCAA interview notice form; did
you have a chance to read that form?

Yes.

RR: Okay. Do you understand that the


purpose of this interview is to determine
whether you have any knowledge of or
involvement in any violations of NCAA
legislation?

Yes.

RR: Do you understand that you may be


represented by personal legal counsel during
this interview and you have chosen to do so?

Yes.

RR: Okay. Do you understand that


NCAA bylaw 10.1 obligates you to provide
truthful and complete information in this
interview?

Yes.

RR: Do you understand that if it is



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ever determined that you provided false or


misleading information or withheld information
in this interview, then this could constitute
a violation of the NCAA principles of ethical
conduct and could impact your eligibility as a
student athlete?

Yes.

RR: Do you understand that


information provided during this interview may
be shared with other NCAA departments?

Yes.

RR: Okay. And do you have any


questions regarding any part of that interview
notice form?

No.

RR: Okay. And did you electronically


sign and date that form?

Yes.

RR: Okay. Thank you, sir.

TH: And , this is Tom Hosty, one


of the directors. And in a moment, Russell is
going to show you some documents that we
recently retrieved. And it concerns one of
the subject matters that we interviewed you
about last week. And so I just want to
underscore the importance for you to tell the
truth in this interview because if it were
determined that you provided us false or
misleading information, this will in fact,
impact your eligibility as a student athlete.
And so it's imperative that you tell us the
truth and so that's why we're reconvening this
interview is because we simply want to
understand the truth of the matter about which
Russell is going to interview you on.
And so if, during this interview, we're
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documents shown to you and your attorney, and


if you need to take some time to review those
and if you need to talk with your attorney,
that's perfectly fine. We want to make sure
you have adequate, you know, time to review
this.
But it's really important that you
understand the need to tell the truth. And so
I'm going to turn it back over to Russell at
this time.

RR: All right. , we'll go ahead


and let you look over -- you and your attorney
look over these -- these documents. Annie,
could you provide -- and just for the record,
Annie is showing and his attorney
pictures and -- stamped as UConn Documents
1459, 1460, 1461, 1462, and 1463.

HG: Which one is this one? The one


that matters?

CS: Sixty-one.

AS: Can we have a minute to go over


this?

HG: Sure.

TH: Yes, we can take a break. Yes.

AS: Okay.

RR: I'll note that we're pausing so


that can talk with his counsel at
1:34 p.m. Eastern Time.
(A recess was taken.)

RR: I'll note that the interview is


resuming at 1:37 p.m. Eastern Time. We took a
break so that could confer with counsel.
Okay. I want to first ask you if
you could look at Document 1459 and Document
1460, okay? Okay. And I'll just represent to
you that these are two pictures that are
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from Pro Purpose, that is Derrek Hamilton's


training company that he has. So those are
directly from his -- that Instagram account.
So that first one there, does that look like
the sign at the university of Connecticut?

Yeah.

RR: Is that a yes?

Yes.

RR: Okay. And that second one there,


does that look like the arena at the
University of Connecticut?

Yes.

RR: Okay. And so , now, if you


could look at Document 1461. Okay. , if
you could, walk me through, do you know who
those individuals are?

I know .

RR: Okay. Let's start on the left,


okay?

, basketball player.
Know him through -- inaudible. ,
myself, and then Derrek
Hamilton.

RR: Okay. I'm going to go back


through those a little bit more slowly, okay?
So the first young man on the left, you said
that's ?

Yes.

RR: Okay. Do you know -- do you


know, does he play for an institution or a
school?

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RR: Okay. And then the individual


next to him, did you say that that's
?

Yes.

RR: And was he a player at the


University of Connecticut?

Yes.

RR: Okay. And then the individual


standing next to him, is that

Yes.

RR: Okay. And that's your teammate


there at UConn, correct?

Yes.

RR: And then you said, is that you


standing next to ?

Yes.

RR: Okay. And then standing to --


next to you on your -- on the picture to your
right, but on the -- it would be to your left,
who is that?

Derrek Hamilton.

RR: Okay. And then do you know the


other young man standing next to Derrek
Hamilton?

No.

RR: Okay. All right. , when


was this picture taken?

I'm not sure of the exact time.

RR: Okay. So let's start with this:


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Hamilton?

I met him at UConn, just like


seeing him around. That's pretty much how I
met him. And I know him -- I went down to
Atlanta to play basketball and -- inaudible.
And I -- inaudible -- to him.

RR: Okay. When did you meet him on


campus? I think some of this we went through
in our last interview, but let's go through it
again, okay? When is the first time that you
met him on campus?

I don't remember the exact time.


I'm almost positive it wasn't -- it was after
the season.

RR: In what year?

My -- after my year --
after my season.

RR: All right. So that would have


been the beginning of 2016; is that correct?

Yes.

RR: Okay. Where did -- walk me


through that again. How did you meet him on
campus?

I was walking towards --


inaudible -- pretty much in the hallway, I
seen him. He introduced himself -- inaudible.

RR: Where all did you see him on


campus during that time?

I didn't really see him around


campus too much. I only seen him a couple
times in the hallway.

RR: Okay. And so tell me about --


you know, walk me through. Did you ever see
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you make contact with him again?

I got -- through .

RR: Okay. So walk me through -- I


think in our last interview, you said that you
saw that walked out with Derrek through
a Snapchat. Can you walk me through that
again? How did you know to reach out to
?

Well, I seen -- I seen on


Snapchat that they were in the gym together
and I recognized him and when I needed a place
to stay, I figured knew him -- and when
he introduced himself to me, he told me he was
from Atlanta and he was always around and
stuff like that so --

HG: Inaudible -- staying with him


too.

RR: Okay. What were you -- when did


you go to Atlanta?

This was after -- this was in the


summer, after the school year.

RR: Okay. So it would have been that


same summer that he -- was working out with
at UConn?

Yeah.

RR: Okay. It was still that summer


of 2016? So after your year?

Yeah.

RR: So walk -- you know, just in your


own words, walk me through, why did you go to
Atlanta; how did that all workout?

Well, it's not -- well, just


wanted to play basketball more and more.
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, so in the summers, I try to go to


different places where I know, like, other AAU
people are usually at for basketball. So I
went to Atlanta in -- I was going down there
to play pickup. I knew a couple people and
when I got down there, the -- I needed a place
to stay, so I got in contact with Derrek
Hamilton and to see if it was cool if I stayed
with him.

RR: Okay. How long did you stay with


Derrek Hamilton that summer?

I'm not sure of the exact -- I


think it was like two or three days.

RR: Do you remember what month that


was during?

No, I don't.

RR: Was it the early summer, late


summer.

It was definitely early summer.

RR: Okay. And did you stay at his


house?

Yes.

RR: Okay. Did -- did he ask you to


pay anything to stay or how did that work?

No.

RR: And so tell me about this


picture. What did y'all do during those two
or three days?

We were going to different


schools and just playing pickup. This -- this
picture, we were playing -- pretty much
playing two-on-two, one-on-one. Derrek never
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RR: Okay. So what was he doing there


then?

He was just there because we


stayed -- we needed a house to stay at, so I
stayed at his house. I mean, he was asking me
where I was going to play at and he came.

RR: Do you remember what gym that is,


?

I don't remember the name of it,


but the gym -- inaudible.

RR: Okay. Can you look at


document -- Annie, would you mind handing him
Document 1463. Does that look like the same
gym?

Yes.

RR: Okay. So that's Athletic Club


Northeast in Atlanta. Does that sound about
right?

I don't know what it's called.


It just looks like the gym.

RR: Okay. How did y'all get access


to that gym?

I went in -- one of the other


kids that's from Atlanta.

RR: Okay. Which one is from Atlanta?

The one to the far left.

RR: Are you talking about


or --

Yeah.

RR: Okay. He's from Atlanta?

Yeah.

 

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RR: Okay. Was -- who -- I mean,


whose idea was it to go to that particular
gym?

I -- I don't know.

RR: Okay. And so your two teammates


that you have that's in that photo, and
-- so explain -- explain to me, you
know, how they were there, where did they
stay, kind of how did they fit in the picture?

They went with me. They stayed


with me with Derrek as well.

RR: Okay. Do you know, did they pay


him anything to stay there?

I have no idea. I don't think


so.

RR: Okay. How long did they stay


with Derrek?

The same amount of time as me.

RR: Okay. And so tell me again, what


all did y'all do basketball wise while y'all
were there?

We just went to different gyms


and played pickup.

RR: Okay. , just want to ask


this because it doesn't quite make sense to me
that -- I mean, we talked about this in our
prior interview that Derrek Hamilton is a
basketball trainer.
And he's in this photo with y'all and y'all
were there in Atlanta just for -- I mean, it
doesn't quite make sense to me that y'all were
there and he was around and he didn't do
anything or show y'all anything.
So if you could, I mean, explain that to
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I mean, we went to -- that's --


like, that's really what it was. We went down
there. We needed a place to stay; we got in
contact with us. He provided a place for us
to stay. He said it was cool for us to stay
at his house with him and kind of just --
inaudible. And after that, we went to
different gyms to play basketball. We played
at Georgia State and just random pickup.

RR: So how did y'all put that plan


together? Were y'all friends before this or
how did that -- how did that start?

Who?

RR: I mean, how many people -- how


many of y'all played basketball; is it just
y'all in this photo or are there more people
that y'all were playing with?

There were -- in this one, I


think it was just us. And then other places
where we played basketball, it's pickup.
There was a whole bunch of people. Just
random kids from Atlanta. I know there was
local schools by. People were just --
everyone was coming in for pickup.

AS: Your family was going to send you


regardless, right?

Yeah. Yeah, my plan was to go


down there regardless and then just last
minute, I needed a place to stay.

RR: Okay. So was the plan just to --


to go down there just to play pickup with
people that were in Atlanta or you know, what
exactly was the plan?

That was the plan. Just to play


pickup with people in Atlanta.

RR: Okay. And so how did and



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-- did they have that plan too and then


y'all all got together or how did that
workout?

Yeah -- no, we all went down


together. We all had the same plan. We were
just going to hit up people we knew down there
to find pickup.

RR: And so explain to me, so what


was -- you know, this picture of y'all playing
pickup at a gym and then Derrek is there,
what was -- what was he there for?

He was just watching.

RR: Okay. How long were -- I think


you've already said this, but how long were
all of y'all in Atlanta for?

A couple days. Like, two to


three, I want to say.

RR: Okay. And -- and it was just


your idea to contact Derrek just because you
knew he had worked with ?

Yes. And I knew he was in


Atlanta.

RR: Did your coaches know about this


at all, what your plans were?

No. This was -- we were out of


school. Out of school. So this was -- it was
just really something that we -- we did.
Like, me, , and were coming to
play with each other.

RR: While you were down there, did


you -- while you were staying with Derrek,
did -- did y'all eat at his house, all that
kind of thing; how did you get around?

Uber.



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RR: Okay. Did you -- did he -- did


Derrek drive y'all around or did you just
take Ubers everywhere?

No. We just took Ubers mostly.

RR: Okay. So Derrek never gave you


a ride somewhere, dropped you off at a gym or
something like that?

No.

RR: Okay. Did you eat at his house?

Usually ordered -- inaudible --


like pizza, chicken, stuff like that.

RR: Did he pay for it?

No. Everybody ordered


individually.

RR: So how did -- tell me about this


particular time that y'all were at this gym.
Did y'all all ride with Derrek there or how
did he get there?

I have no idea. We left. We


told him we was going to the gym. We Ubered
there and he just came.

RR: Okay. So he just met y'all


there?

Yeah.

RR: Okay. Okay. , the last


time that we talked a week ago, we talked
about Derrek a good bit and this never came
up.
Is there a reason why you didn't want to
mention this?

No. It's just when you asked me


the questions, I thought you were referring to
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RR: Okay. Some of our questions were


pretty plain as far as, you know, was there any
time that you saw Derrek.

Yeah, I thought you guys


were just talking about on campus and I
couldn't, like, state any specific times that
I could remember.

RR: One thing that you told me is


when I said how do you know Derrek, you said
you really didn't know him, know him. But you
stayed at his house.

Yeah. I thought you were asking


me when I met him, like, how did you -- did I
know him? No, I didn't know him at the time.
I introduced myself. We introduced each
other -- inaudible.

RR: , did someone ask you not to


share any of that with us?

No.

RR: I'm going to ask you a question


that I asked you last time. Before the
interview last week or before today's
interview, did anyone ever -- besides your --
talking with your counsel, did you talk with
anybody else about the fact that the NCAA
wanted to interview you? Did anybody talk to
you about that interview or this interview?

AS: So this guy did call him this


morning about this interview.

RR: Derrek Hamilton did?

AS: Yeah.

RR: Okay. So what was the context;


what happened in that conversation?

AS: I think he ended the conversation



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by saying this conversation never happened,


but go in there and tell the truth --
inaudible.

RR: ? Are you okay with


answering what all -- what all happened in
that conversation? Okay. , can you tell
me what that conversation included.

Pretty much he was calling me --


he was like, if you don't know already, you're
probably going to have a meeting today -- or a
meeting soon. I don't know what's going on,
but somehow -- like, he said -- inaudible --
going on. But somehow I'm involved. And
pretty much he just said, just tell the truth.
Nothing happened, so just tell the truth and
it all should be good.

RR: Okay. So he said that he thought


you were going to have a meeting today?

Well, he didn't say today. He


said you're probably going to have a meeting.

RR: Oh, okay. Did he say how he knew


that?

No.

RR: Okay. Was there anything else


said or what did you tell him?

Well, I, first of all, said I


didn't really know what was going on because I
had just woke up this morning.

RR: Okay. , did you ever -- did


Derrek Hamilton ever come back on campus that
you saw after those couple of times that you
saw him in the offices?

No, not that I -- inaudible.

RR: Okay. I really need you to think


back very clearly, . Did -- did you ever



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hear or do you have any reason to believe that


he was ever back on campus?

Huh-uh.

RR: Do you know if he worked out with


any other student athletes from UConn besides
the ones in that photo and and
that you talked about before?

The ones in this photo?

RR: Yes.

He didn't -- he didn't workout


with them.

RR: Okay. Besides and


, did he ever attend any sessions
where pickup was played; was he ever at
anything else that involved a student athlete
from UConn that you know about?

No.

RR: Okay. Tom, do you have some


follow ups?

TH: Yeah.

RR: Okay.

TH: , I -- I'm going to go back.


I can't remember. Where are you from? What's
your hometown?

TH: Okay. In the summer of 2016,


where were you living -- I guess once the
school year was done, did you go back home or
where were you living that summer of 2016?

I was living in the same


residence. I went back home.

 

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TH: Okay. And do you know the


whole -- where and are from;
where are their hometowns?

I don't know their specific


hometowns. I just know and
.

TH: Okay. Were they back home in


and prior to the trip
to Atlanta?

I believe so, yeah.

TH: And so how did you -- the three


of you arrive in Atlanta? How did you get
there?

Our parents bought us flights.

TH: And what airport did you fly out


of?

I'm not necessarily -- I'm not


100 percent sure. I would have to look back.

TH: Would you have flown out of an


airport near your home in ?

Yeah.

TH: Okay. And they would have flown


from where they were respectively located?

Yeah. Yeah.

TH: And then did all three of you


arrive in Atlanta at the same time or were you
coming in at different times?

It was all pretty much around the


same time. Our parents, like, talked and set
it up so that that's how it would work.

TH: And then so you arrived in


Atlanta, had you already talked to Derrek




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about staying at his place before you arrived


in Atlanta?

No.

TH: So did you call Derrek once you


arrived; tell me about the sequence. You fly
from , you arrive in Atlanta,
you're there -- where do you stay the very
first night?

We stayed with him.

TH: Okay. So did -- inaudible --


between your arrival in Atlanta and going to
his place?

Oh yes.

TH: Okay. So you called Derrek the


same day that you arrived; is that right?

Oh, yes.
(AUDIO INTERRUPTION)

RR: We're resuming at 2:20 p.m.


Eastern Time. We paused for technical
difficulties.

TH: And this is Tom Hosty again. And


, I'll try to pick up where I think I
left off. But when -- I think you indicated
in Atlanta, when it was time to leave, you
said you flew back home; is that correct?

Yeah.

TH: And then did -- at any -- I know


you said that Derrek Hamilton watched you
play in the gym. Did he ever give you
instruction while you were in Atlanta?

What do you mean by instruction?

TH: Did he at any time give you any


tips, pointers, ideas, any verbal commands,

 

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any verbal suggestions on any matters related


to basketball?

Maybe just like a pointer, but


nothing -- like, a normal basketballer would say
if he's watching someone play.

TH: Okay. And I know you said he did


not work you out and I understand workout
meaning that he would lead you through certain
basketball drills. And you said that did not
happen; is that correct?

Yes.

TH: Okay. And that's kind of where I


was going with my other question about -- I
understand he did not work you out, but did he
ever give you verbal tips or ideas or
instruction? And that was where I was going
with that question.

No.

TH: Okay. Did -- I'm trying to read


my notes here. Did you -- did you realize
that Derrek Hamilton had posted that
photograph which is identified as UConn 1461,
did you realize that Derrek had posted that
photograph of you on his website?

No.

TH: And did you know that Derrek


Hamilton, on his website, in UConn Exhibit
1462, advertised that he had worked with UConn
basketball?

AS: Which one is that?

TH: UConn 1462. It's -- I'll


represent to you that that was pulled from
Derrek's website. And on that UConn 1462.
Derrek lists the different PD clients and
alumni and one of the icons is UConn
basketball.

 

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Did you realize that Derrek had put that


on his website?

No.

TH: Okay. And do you realize -- did


you realize at the time or even today that
staying with Derrek Hamilton could possibly
be contrary to NCAA rules?

No, I did not.

TH: Okay. Did you recognize that his


provision of letting you stay at his house at
no cost could possibly be a violation?

No.

TH: Okay. And I understand that


Derrek Hamilton called you this morning and
right -- either woke you up or right after you
woke up; is that correct?

Yeah.

TH: And do you recall what time of


day exactly that was; can you give me an
approximate time when he called you?

It was around 8:30ish, 9:00.

TH: Okay. And how did Derrek have


your phone number?

Well, we -- I stayed at his house


and I had it -- I got his number, so I had to
call him.

TH: And how long was today's call


with Derrek Hamilton?

It was very brief.

TH: Okay. And when was the first time


that you learned that you were going to be
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I'm not sure of the exact time,


but I -- well, I seen a text message last
night from Eric.

AF: Eric.

Yeah. And I woke up pretty late


and I seen that. And I -- he didn't say I had
a meeting, I don't think. I think he said
just to get in contact with him. And --

TH: Okay.

And then later on today, I


replied to him and then he told me that I had
to come in for a meeting.

TH: When did Eric tell you that; was


it after or before Derrek's phone call today?

I believe it was after.

TH: Okay. So is it -- in a sense, I


guess, was Derrek Hamilton the first one to
really let you know that you might be
interviewed again?

Yeah.

TH: Okay. I'm going to go ahead and


pause there. And I'll turn it over to Clint
and Henry to see if they have any questions.

CS: Got any?

HG: You go ahead.

CS: All right. Just a couple.


, did Derrek Hamilton say how he knew
you were going to be meeting with the NCAA
today?

No.

CS: Did he say if anybody had called



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him or talked to him about this situation?

No.

CS: I'm sorry, that's a no?

Yeah. No.

CS: All right. Help me understand,


when you flew down to Atlanta, had you ever
talked to Derrek Hamilton about staying at
his house prior to going to Atlanta?

No.

CS: So the -- the first time you


talked to him about ever staying at his house
is when you landed in Atlanta?

Yeah.

CS: Had you told anybody at UConn


that you were going to Atlanta to play pickup
ball?

No.

CS: Had you ever conveyed to Coach


Ollie that you were going to Atlanta to play
pickup ball that summer?

No.

CS: Do you know if Coach Ollie knew


that you were staying with Derrek Hamilton?

No.

CS: Did Coach Ollie ever suggest that


you call Derrek Hamilton?

No.

CS: Do you know if


ever went to Atlanta to play pickup ball at
the same time that you were down there?



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He lives in .

CS: Did he ever play pickup ball with


you?

No.

CS: After your last interview, did


you talk to anybody about the contents of that
interview?

No.

CS: Did Coach Ollie ever ask you


about what was discussed in your interview?

No.

CS: Are you aware -- let me ask it


this way, the gym that is in the page Bates
labeled 1463, did you ever see Derrek
Hamilton training anybody in that gym?

No.

CS: Did you participate in any pickup


games in that gym?

No.

CS: Okay. So help me out here, if


you didn't participate in any pickup games in
that gym, what's going on in 1461? It looks
like y'all are all pretty sweaty.

Yeah -- yeah, we were playing --


like I said earlier, we were playing, like,
one-on-ones, two-on-twos. Not pickup -- like,
when you say pickup, I -- I consider that,
like, five-on-five going up and down.

CS: Was there anybody else that was


playing one-on-one, two-on-ones, however many,
in the gym that day that's not included in
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Well, there were like some --


not. No. No. There were none playing with
us. There were other people in the gym, but
not playing with us.

CS: Who else was in the gym?

Just, like, random people.

CS: Did you have to pay anything to


get into this gym?

No.

CS: Was there a front desk at this


gym that you have to check in at?

Yeah.

CS: How did they let you in then?

We -- I think we signed up --
signed up with -- not signed up with
him, but just signed in as his guests.

CS: You mentioned Georgia State.


What other gyms did you go to that summer to
play?

I don't -- I don't know the other


ones. That was, like, the main, like, school
that we went to. The other ones were just
random gyms.

CS: Did you play against student


athletes from Georgia State in their gym?

I'm not 100 percent sure. I


don't really know anyone on their roster,
like, in general.

CS: Who did you play against in their


gym?

It was just a whole bunch of kids who



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were, like, college basketball players or high


school basketball players, I don't know.

CS: Was this some sort of an organized


event, like, a Facebook group that said, hey,
we're all getting together at Georgia State on
such and such date? How did you know there
were going to be people there playing
basketball?

My -- well, the people I was


with, and , one of them said that
their friend said that there was pickup and
that it was cool if we came.

CS: All right. Henry?

HG: Yeah. , I'm still trying to


wrap my head around this trip, so when was it
decided that you were going to go to Atlanta
to play pickup?

Like, right before the year


ended.

HG: While school was still in


session?

Yeah. Like, the last -- the


closing week. Instead of going on, like, a
summer break or something, I just went to go
play basketball.

HG: Okay. And I guess what I'm


struggling with is, you know, there's a
pretty -- you have to go through a lot of
places to get from UConn or to
Georgia. What was the driving decision to go
to Georgia as opposed to New York or anywhere
else that's nearby, DC that's a lot closer
than Atlanta?

Yeah. Well, the people I was


going with, and , they knew
other -- like, I guess they knew people down
there who were going to be playing, so that's



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where we ended up going.

HG: Okay. And you said one of those


guys is from that area?

No. One of them knew people of


that area.

HG: I thought you said or


somebody was from near -- from Atlanta?

No. is from Atlanta.

HG: Okay. Was home that


summer?

Yeah.

HG: Then why didn't you guys stay


with ?

Well, we weren't -- I didn't know


him really and I didn't really get in contact
with him at the time because I think he was
just getting his surgery.

HG: Okay. Do you know -- did you


know before you went down?

Who?

HG: .

I knew him through AAU, same with


like .

HG: Okay. Did I write down he's from


the area?

What was that?

HG: Is from the area?

Yeah.

HG: Why didn't y'all stay with

 

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Kasier?

Well, we just really didn't get


in contact with him.

HG: So you didn't know you were going


to play pickup with before you went
down?

No.

HG: And then as I'm understanding is


when you got on the plane, you're telling us
your parents put you on a plane to fly to
Atlanta and you had no idea before you landed
where you were going to stay?

No. We were going to try to get


a place down there.

HG: Did you call anybody else before


you called Derrek Hamilton?

I contacted .

HG: Okay. Where is from?

HG: Now -- okay. I guess where I'm


getting at, did you contact anybody else --
well, let me back up and ask you this: Did
you understand that had ever trained
with Derrek in Atlanta?

No.

HG: Where was the only place -- or


where the places you're aware that
trained with Derrek?

Connecticut.

HG: Okay. And so you called to


ask him what?




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What was Derrek's number.

HG: Okay. And did you make that call


before you landed in Atlanta or when you
landed in Atlanta?

When I talked to ?

HG: Right.

I'm not really -- I honestly


don't remember.

HG: Okay. Other than reaching out to


Derrek, did you make any other efforts to try
to find somewhere to stay in Atlanta?

Yeah. I was going to try to stay


with my brother, but he was busy and not -- he
wasn't really in the area.

HG: Where does your brother live or


did he live?

He lives in Atlanta, but I'm not


sure of the -- what exact area.

HG: Okay. And so you said you used


Uber when you were down there?

Yeah.

HG: Is that an account that you have


with Uber?

What was that?

HG: Is it an account -- account that


you have with Uber?

To pay for the Ubers?

HG: Yeah.

Oh, yeah, it was -- it was one of


us. I'm -- it was one of the three. Like, me

 

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or who ordered the Uber.

HG: Okay. And do you have a credit


or debit card that's tied to your Uber
account?

Yeah.

HG: Okay. And am I hearing you tell


us that there's not a single member of the
UConn coaching staff that was aware of three
of their players traveling all the way to
Atlanta to play multiple days of pickup and
staying with someone who is one of Kevin Ollie's best
friends?

No.

HG: When was the last time you had


any contact with Derrek Hamilton before he
called you this morning?

Hasn't been for a while. I


haven't talked to him in a while.

HG: Okay. Let's -- here's my


question then: Have you talked to Derrek
Hamilton at any point by text message, DM,
phone call, Facebook, at any point between you
leaving Atlanta after playing pickup that
summer and this morning?

I think he sent me a text a while


ago, like, talking about a game. Like, good
job pretty much.

HG: Could y'all what? What do you


mean?

Like, in the game.

HG: A UConn game?

Yeah.

HG: And you said I think the call

 

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this morning was brief; can you help me


understand that? Is that under three minutes?

Yeah.

HG: He called you on your cell phone?

Yeah.

HG: Do you have him as a contact in


your phone?

What was that?

HG: Do you have him as a contact in


your phone?

Yes.

HG: Okay. Annie -- or Anthony, can


you have him just give Anthony that number when
we're done?

AS: Sure.

AF: Do you have your phone with you?

Yeah.

HG: Did -- did , , stay


with y'all at Derrek's the whole time you
were there?

Yeah.

HG: Did stay with you the


whole time at Derrek's when you were there?

Yeah.

HG: Any other players from any other


schools, college or high school, stay with
Derrek when you guys were there?

Well, his son, but other than


that, no.



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HG: Okay. And there was a guy in that


picture who we didn't know; that's not his son
in that picture, is it?

No.

HG: You got anything else? Tom and


Russell, that's all I have for right now, if
you guys want to pick anything up. Or Annie
or Anthony.

RR: , a couple questions. Who


took that picture of y'all at that gym?

I have no idea. Or I don't


remember I should say.

RR: Okay. Did Derrek ever play with


y'all or you know, get out there on the court?
I mean, he's in kind of workout gear?

No.

RR: So my next question is why did


you take the picture?

Well, I don't know. He just


asked for a picture. I didn't think nothing
of it.

RR: Okay. And so just to follow up


on what Henry asked you, so during that time,
you don't remember an assistant coach or
any -- a member of the coaching staff calling
y'all and asking y'all what y'all were up to
or anything like that?

No.

RR: I mean, I know that you have


summer access, but you have things that you're
required to do for the team during the summer,
so they never followed up with on where y'all
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What do you mean things we have


to do with the team? This was after the
season. After the school year.

RR: Okay. I mean, I know during the


summer, you have some required practices,
things like that, right? Skill instruction
and required workouts?

Well, this was -- this was right


after the school year, so we didn't have
anything to do until -- I think we had -- when
school ended, we had, like, three weeks off.

RR: Okay.

So we didn't have to come back up


for summer school until a certain date, so no,
I didn't talk to them.

RR: Okay. So coaches never asked


y'all if y'all were going home, what y'all
were doing during this three weeks?

No.

RR: Tom?

TH: Yeah. , this is Tom again.


When you said that he asked for the photo, are
you referring to Derrek Hamilton asking for
that photo to be taken?

I never -- I never said he asked


for a photo -- oh, oh, oh. Sorry. Yes.

TH: Okay. But he is Derrek


Hamilton; that's all I was getting at? So
Derrek is the one that asked for the photo to
be taken in UConn 1461; is that correct?

Yeah.

TH: Okay. Do you recall the address


for Derrek Hamilton or is that in your
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No. I have no idea.

TH: And where exactly did you sleep


in Derrek's house; was it in a bedroom?

No. I slept on the couch.

TH: Where in the house?

Like, the living room, I guess.

TH: Okay. So where did and


sleep?

All of us were in the living


room.

TH: Where exactly were the sleeping


arrangements in the living room?

There were, like, four different


couches. All like, different sizes, so it was
just like a regular living room.

TH: Okay. and I think Russell asked


you this, but at any time, did you guys get
any food from Derrek or from his house?

No.

TH: Okay. And what's the -- what's


your brother's name that lives in the Atlanta
area?

TH: And do you have his address in


Atlanta?

No.

TH: Was he there in Atlanta that week


while you were there?

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HG: Okay. Why didn't you stay with


him?

He didn't live, like, close to


like the -- I guess I'm going to call it the
city where -- like, where they were saying
where -- that's where we were having all the
pickup was. He was supposed to come visit me,
but I wasn't there too long, so -- and he had
plans already. It was like I -- inaudible --
last minute.

TH: I think that's all I have. Henry


and Clint, do you have any further questions?

HG: Do you have anything?

CS: No.

HG: , did Derrek mention on


your call this morning that he was going to be
taking down on these photos?

No. I knew nothing about these.

HG: And do you have the Uber app on


your phone?

Yeah, I'm not sure if I still


have it. But I most likely do.

HG: Okay. When we're done, check. I


think there's a way you can look back and look
at a tab called your trips or past trips and
see if -- mine goes back to at least '16. See
if yours goes back and see if you can find any
of those trips you might have paid for in
Atlanta, please.

Okay.

HG: Anything else, Clint?

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HG: Do you know who would have booked


your trip, your flight; would that have been
your mom, your dad, your cousin, family
member?

This was either my mom or my dad.

HG: Okay. Do you recall by chance


what airline you flew?

No.

HG: Do you know if it was a direct


flight or did you have to stop somewhere?

I'm not -- I don't remember.

HG: That's all I have, Tom.

RR: Annie, did you have any


questions -- any follow ups?

AF: No, I don't. I can grab his


phone to check about the Uber stuff if you
would -- you guys want me to.

HG: And did you get the number for


Derrek?

AF: Yeah, I already got that.

HG: Okay.

RR: Can you go -- Annie, can you also


get the time of the call that morning from
Derrek and the length of the call?

AF: All right. I don't want to


search through your phone, but can you pull
that up?

Yeah.

AF: You want him to just pull it up


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HG: He can just screenshot it or


something and send it to you -- email it to
Annie.

AF: Okay. I'll just have him pull it


up and take a picture. It's fine.

RR: Mr. Spinella, do you have any


questions?

AS: I have one question for .


If you wouldn't stay with Derrek Hamilton
when you went to Atlanta, would you have
stayed in a hotel?

Yeah.

AS: Was that the initial plan?

Yeah.

AS: And was your family going to pay


for that?

Yeah. Well, I had money to pay for


that, yeah.

AS: Okay. Thanks.

TH: What changed your mind; why call


Derrek instead of staying at the motel if you
had money?

I mean, I'd rather not pay for it


and keep the money. If somebody was cool with
letting me stay at their house, I'd rather do
that.

TH: Thank you.

RR: All right. , my last


question is, is there anything that we talked
about in your previous interview that you feel
like you need to add to; is there anything
that you didn't tell us before that you feel
like you need to tell us now?

 

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No.

RR: Is that a no from ?

No.

RR: Okay. All right. Do you have


anything you want to add or clarify to what we
talked about today?

No.

RR: Okay.

HG: Let me ask one question, Russell.


And it may have been asked -- and I apologize
if it has, . But apart from Derrek, has
any coaching staff or basketball staff reached
out to you this morning about Derrek or this
interview?

No.

RR: Did any coaching staff member


each out to you after your last interview?

No.

RR: Okay. All right. So , the


last thing I need to tell you is that NCAA
legislation requires that you help protect the
integrity of this investigation. Therefore,
as the investigation continues, we ask that
you are not permitted to speak with others
about what we discussed today or any
information related to this investigation
except that you may speak with personal legal
counsel or others on the call.
Failure to protect the integrity of this
investigation could result in an allegation
that you violated the principles of ethical
conduct and/or the cooperative principle; do
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RR: At some point after the NCAA


completes its investigation, someone else
involved as a party in this case or their
attorney, legal counsel, or representative may
request to interview you about matters related
to this case.
We encourage you to agree to speak with
them as you have agreed to speak with us.
This doesn't include any representatives of the
media. If you have any questions about who
you can and cannot talk to, please feel free
to reach out to your counsel or Annie or
myself.
Do you have any final questions for me,
?

No.

RR: Okay. Then I'll note for the


record that this interview concluded at
2:46 p.m. Eastern Time. Thank you.

TH: Thank you.

AF: I'm just going to grab a couple


things from and then I'll bring the next
individual in.

RR: Okay. Thank you.

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-- INTERVIEW CONTINUED --

RR: Okay. I just want to note on the


record that we're resuming at 2:49 p.m.
Eastern Time. This is an additional recording
to 's interview. Mr. Spinella has
asked to go back on the record. Okay.

AS: So in response to your inquiry


about my client's call log, he was aware that

 

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this person was not supposed to contact him,


so he cleared his call log before he came here
today. So that information does not exist.

TH: Okay. Thank you for that.

AS: Okay.

TH: Thank you.

AS: Yep, no problem.

RR: Thank you.

HG: One quick question while I've got


you, . Did you know where Derrek
Hamilton lived before you landed in Atlanta?

No. I just knew he was from


Atlanta.

HG: Okay. Because you talked about


your brother was too far away from the pickup
game, but did you know where Derrek was
before you landed and called him?

No.

HG: Okay. That's it.

Okay.

RR: All right. I'll note that this


recording is ending at 2:49 p.m. Eastern Time.

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INTERVIEW OF
UNIVERSITY OF CONNECTICUT
MARCH 7, 2018

RR: I just want to note back on the


call is Annie Fiorvanti from the institution,
Anthony Spinella, who is counsel for
. is also on the call
as well as Henry Gimenez and Clint Speegle,
counsel for the institution.
Here at the NCAA, I have Tom Hosty,
director of enforcement, and Jessica Doriot,
assistant coordinator and I'm
Russell Register, assistant director of
enforcement.
, just wanted to note on the record
that you previously signed an interview notice
form on February 26th and on March the sixth.
We're going to adopt that into the record that
you've already executed those two things and
that you're still under those notices; do you
agree?

Yes.

RR: Okay. Want to note that you had


two previous interview, one on February the
26th and one on March the sixth. And that you
have requested -- and you your counsel has
requested this interview. And that you still
have an obligation to provide truthful and
forthcoming information; do you agree with
that statement?

Yes.

RR: Okay. Yes, I also want to note


for the record that I'm recording this
interview. , is that okay?

Yes.

RR: Okay. Clint, are you recording?

CS: I am recording and hold the standing


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agreement to keep it confidential is good.

RR: Perfect. All right. , I'll


turn it over to you. We were notified that
you spoke with counsel and that you had some
additional information you wanted to provide
to us, so we'll turn that over to you, okay?

Yeah.

AS: So my client would like to make a


statement in regards to yesterday's interview
and give you some more specifics about that
visit to Atlanta and why he wasn't as
forthcoming yesterday as he will be today.
And I'll turn it over to him.

So yeah, we had a trip to go


down -- we had a plan, it came about through
. He asked me and if we
wanted to go with him to go down there and
workout. So I figured it would be a good idea
just to stay active between basketball,
especially with my teammates. So we -- I
talked to my parents about it. My parents --
my dad said it was cool.
He just had to make sure everything was all
set and make sure it was fine. He pretty much
said, like, there's no -- like, asked me,
like, to make sure that something like this
wouldn't come up after -- like, there's no
money being exchanged or anything.
And I told him, no, it's just we're going
to Atlanta to workout with Derrek and he
said -- he said, yeah, that's fine. I'm sure
he checked with somebody to make sure it was
okay and then he bought the plane ticket and
we flew down there.
Once we got down there, we went to Derrek
Hamilton's house, stayed there for -- for our
time down there.

AS: And you -- this is Anthony. So


, you -- when you say work out, do you
mean Derrek Hamilton put you through basketball
drills every day you were there, right?


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Yeah.

AS: Okay. And when you say that you


stayed at his house, you stayed in a bedroom
on a bed, right?

Yes.

AS: Okay. And your parents still


paid for the plane ticket, right?

Yes.

AS: Okay. And you never gave Derrek


any money, right?

No.

AS: And he never gave you any money,


right?

No.

AS: Okay. And can you tell them the


reason you weren't as forthcoming yesterday
and the previous interview as you today; you
were nervous, right?

Yes.

AS: And why were you nervous?

I just -- I didn't want to get in


trouble. I possibly knew that might not be
okay with just traveling and working out with
him because I know he has trained other
people.

AS: Okay. And you're telling the


truth today because it is the truth, right?

Yeah.

AS: And , you don't know of


anything else that has happened in the UConn


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program since you've been here that you think


has been unethical, do you?

No.

AS: Okay. And I've asked you three


or four times, right?

Yeah.

AS: Okay. And your dad has asked you


as well, right?

Yeah.

AS: Okay. Do you guys have any


questions?

RR: Yes. , thank you for that


information. Wanted to ask -- go back to the --
I think you mentioned before that asked
you and if you wanted to go down there;
can you kind of elaborate on, you know, what
was the plan; when did y'all start talking
about this? We'll start there. When did
y'all start having those conversations?

It was like one of the -- it was


like the last or one of the last weeks of our
school. While we were at school.
I think it was -- going into 's last
year. He wasn't sure if he was going to come
back or not, so he was -- I would assume he
was working out with Derrek beforehand and
after that, he had pretty much established a
relationship with him and was curious if we
wanted to join him and go down there.
And we were like, yeah, I'm definitely down
to go somewhere else and then play -- and just
play basketball and then also just chill with
my friends.

RR: Okay. And I think you just


said -- did you say that you assume that
had been working out with Derrek or do
you know that he previously worked out with


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Derrek?

I do not know, but yeah, I would


assume.

RR: Okay. Let's go back to something


that we talked about the past couple of times.
Other than, I think, you mentioned before, you
know, we talked about yesterday
and ; do you remember any other
players that knew Derrek and worked out with
him?

No.

RR: Okay. And so you talked a little


bit about whenever you talked with your dad
about this plan; is that correct?

Yes.

RR: Okay. I think you mentioned that


your dad checked with somebody; what did you
mean by that?

Like, he said he was just going


to, like, pretty much being a parent. He was
going to make sure, like, everything was fine
and this wasn't, like, supposed to happen.

RR: Okay. Do you know if he reached


out to your coaches or anything or what did
your dad do?

I mean, I would assume -- I'm not


100 percent sure, but if I had to guess, yeah.

RR: Okay. Did you ever talk to your


coaches about going to Atlanta?

I personally, did not.

RR: Do you know if someone else did?

No.


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RR: I'm sorry, ?

No.

RR: Did they ever mention it to you


after -- before or after you got back?

The coaches?

RR: Yes.

No. I -- I've never talked to


them about Atlanta.

RR: Okay. Do you know, did -- I


think you said before, did Derrek ever ask
you to pay for the workout?

No.

RR: And do you recall, how many days


were you in Atlanta?

I'm not sure of the exact amount


of days, but I know it was from -- somewhere
from two to three days.

RR: I wanted to ask, again, about how


y'all got around; did Derrek drive you to
different places?

Sometimes.

RR: Okay. Did Derrek ever let y'all


borrow his car to go different places?

Well, I didn't get in the car


because I stayed home that night, but I think
he did let people take his car.

RR: Okay. Who did he let take his


car?

I think .

RR: Okay. Did someone -- who rode


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with ?

I'm not sure. I didn't go out


that night.

RR: Okay. Were they -- what were


they doing; were they just going out or were
they going to play a pickup game or something
or what was going on?

No. I think they were going out.


It was -- I think he was going out. It was
later on at night.

RR: Okay. But other times you said


that Derrek would drive y'all to -- would he
drive you to the gym or to go eat or something
like that?

Yes.

RR: Okay. Tom?

TH: Yeah. , this is Tom Hosty.


I have a few follow up questions too. Can you
give us a little bit more description about
the workouts?
What exactly -- do you remember what drills
Derrek worked you out on or what sort of
techniques or things he did with you?

I would say just like normal


basketball drills. Like, mainly, he really
had us playing against each other. But
sometimes he'd have us do, like, dribbling
through cones.
But it was really pretty much more to get
like a game, like, fill. So we were just
really competing against each other.

TH: Okay. And how many workouts a


day did you have with Derrek Hamilton while
you were in Atlanta?

I would say two.

TH: Okay. And how long would each


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workout last? You know, just your best


estimate on how long each workout lasted.

Probably somewhere from, like,


30 -- 30 minutes to, like, an hour, if that.

TH: And what were you hoping to


accomplish with the workout drills? Were you
hoping to -- simply just to improve your game
and your skills?

Yeah, definitely to get better


and to work on some stuff in the off season
and then more just to get us like -- get
familiar, like, playing with and
because I knew eventually they were going to
both come back next year and be able to play.

TH: And on -- related to


transportation, I know you said that sometimes
Derrek drove you around. And yesterday, you
indicated that you guys used Uber. Which is
the truth?
I mean, did you ever use Uber or did you
guys relying upon Derrek for your local
transportation?

Well, he was our main


transportation, but if we needed an Uber, we
would use an Uber.

TH: And if you could estimate, how


many times did Derrek provide you guys
transportation while you were in Atlanta?

I don't have an exact number, but


I know majority of the times, he was able to
give us a ride.

TH: Okay. And so for instance,


getting from the Atlanta airport to his house
and to the gym, did he drive you or how did
you get from the Atlanta airport to his
location?

Derrek.


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TH: Okay. And then each day when you


would go from Derrek's house to the gym, who
would provide you that transportation?

Majority of the times, he would.

TH: Derrek would?

Yeah.

TH: Okay. And then getting back to


the Atlanta airport; how did you guys get back
to the Atlanta airport to go home?

I don't 100 percent remember, but


I'm sure he probably gave us a ride.

TH: Okay. And yesterday -- and I


don't know if Annie and you all have those
exhibits in front of you, but one of the
exhibits showed a photo of the Northeast
Athletic Club and that was the gym where a
photo was taken with you and Derrek Hamilton.
Was that the gym that you did the workouts in?

Yes.

TH: And did you -- were all of the


workouts in that gym while you were in
Atlanta?

No. Sometimes we went and


played -- well, we worked out with him there,
but if we went to go play pickup, it would be,
like, at another gym.

TH: And do you recall those other


gyms?

I don't know most of them. I'm


not really too familiar with, like, all the
local gyms in Atlanta, but I know one specific
time, we played pickup at Georgia State.

TH: Okay. and how did you get to


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this -- these gyms for pickup games; who took


you?

Sometimes Derrek would give us a


ride or sometimes we would have to Uber and
then he would pick us up for a ride back.

TH: And when you would go into the


Northeast Athletic Club gym, was there a front
desk and did you have to pay an entrance fee
to get into the gym?

No. We just had to write our


name on the -- whatever the sheet was at the
front desk and then that was it.

TH: Okay. Do you recall whether


other people had to pay an entrance fee to get
into that gym?

No, I have no idea.

TH: And I think we asked you


yesterday about the photograph that was taken
which is UConn Exhibit 1461. Do you recall
who took that photograph?

No, I do not.

TH: Do you recall the purpose of the


photo?

Not really.

TH: And at any time, did Derrek ever


give you guys meals or did he ever let you,
like, get food out of his refrigerator his
pantry?

Yeah.

TH: Tell me about that.

Well, like, if we worked out in


the morning, sometimes we would just grab like
a -- he said it was cool if we grabbed a


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couple, like, snacks. Like, eggs or if we


made pancakes or something like that, just a
little -- a light breakfast.

TH: Okay. How about, like, your


lunch and dinners; did you ever get any of
that from his house as well?

Not necessarily. Usually, we


went to go get food. We went to food places.

TH: Okay. And do you know, did


Derrek ever say why he was doing these
workouts at no cost? Did he ever say why he
was doing that for free?

No. He just seemed like he was


cool with us.

TH: I think I'm going to pause there


and see if Clint or Henry have any questions.

CS: I've got a few, Tom. Thanks.


, do you know if Derrek Hamilton ever
reported back to Kevin Ollie or any member of
the men's basketball staff that you were in
Atlanta working out with him?

I do not know for sure, but I --


if I had to guess, I would assume.

CS: What would that assumption be


based on?

Well, just because it's based on


where I seen him. I seen him in our facility,
so that's where I met him, so I mean, it
wasn't just walking -- he didn't look like he
was lost. He seemed like he was walking
somewhere so --

CS: Were you aware before yesterday


that your photo was on the website for Derrek
Hamilton's company Pro Purpose Dev?

No, I was not.


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CS: In the exhibit -- and I think it


was 1461 that had your picture on it. If I
recall, you identified the individual on the
left as a , who I believe you said
played for . The individual on the
right, the far right of that picture; do you
recall his name?

No, I don't know him.

CS: Do you know if he was a student


athlete at --

I have no idea. He -- this was


the only time I seen him.

CS: Was he a pretty decent basketball


player?

I guess.

CS: Do you have -- does it seem like


he was pretty friendly and knew Derrek
Hamilton or can you describe how their
relationship was?

Yeah, he seemed like he might


have knew him. I think he was from Atlanta,
but just because of the way he was interacting
with both of them and I know both of are from
Atlanta. It seemed like they were all cool
with each other.

CS: Did -- did they workout with you


when you were doing these workouts with
Derrek?

Yes.

CS: Do you know if they paid?

I have no idea.

CS: One second here. Your plane


ticket -- go ahead, Tom.


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TH: No, go ahead. I was -- you keep


going.

CS: Okay. You said that your father


bought the plane ticket?

Yes.

CS: Where did you fly from?

I believe it was from .

CS: Did you travel with anybody?

No.

CS: Do you know what airline it was?

I do not.

CS: Do you know how your father paid


for it?

He paid with his card. I


actually think he's getting the -- the -- all
the flight history, so I should have all of
that.

CS: Perfect. Thank you. When in the


summer of 2016 was this trip to Atlanta?

It was after -- it was, like,


right after the school year of my
year.

CS: So June?

When was this?

AF: June '15.

We get out of school May?

AF: May.


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Yeah, May. It was like in the


middle of May. I think we had to come back to
school like --

AF: Yeah. is just describing


how usually the team doesn't take a May
session class, but then they come back for
session -- summer session one, which usually
starts in the beginning of June.

CS: Okay.

And like, mid -- like, right


after we got out, so like in the middle of
May.

CS: All right. Tom and Russell,


I'm -- I've got no more questions about that
particular topic. I don't know if Henry does
or not.

HG: Yeah, I just have a few


questions. I don't know -- I don't know what
other topics you plan to cover, but let me
just can you answer this, . Yesterday you
mentioned a very brief call with Derrek
Hamilton in the morning where he called to
tell you you may be contacted by the NCAA and
asked some questions about this.
Anything else you can shed about that call;
was there any discussion about how to answer
questions, how you should relay questions,
whether or not you should be completely honest
or anything like that?

Well, that was the main thing he


said. He said just be honest. There was
nothing to worry about and that I should be
fine if I just answer truthfully.

HG: Did he give you any -- any -- so


why did you not do that?

I don't -- it was -- I don't


know. I was just scared. I've never really
been in a situation like this where I've been,


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like, questioned by a whole bunch of people,


so I don't know. I felt like -- I don't know.
I was just nervous.

HG: I get you. And this is -- it's


an awkward process. Was there ever any
discussion about, hey, I talked to the staff or
some folks on staff and confirmed everything
is okay or anything like that?

Oh, no. He never said anything


like that.

HG: And then switching gears


completely to going to the Northeast Athletic
Club. Do you know or did you get a feel if
Derrek Hamilton was a member there?

I'm not sure. I never seen him,


like, pay and -- I mean, he's a -- he's like
a -- a friendly guy as long -- well, when he's
around me, so he's always talking to people,
so I wasn't sure if he was a member or if he
was just talking, just being like -- being --

HG: -- Derrek?

Yeah.

HG: Did he have to sign in and do all


the same things you did or he just kind of
walked in?

I think he kind of just walked


in. He was in the front.

HG: Okay. And then getting there


around the flight. Do you recall if you flew
with or , if they were with on
your flight?

No, I didn't. I met them both


down there.

HG: Okay. That's all I have right


now. Thank you.


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CS: All right. I want to loop back


on one item. , it's my understanding
that your phone call log was deleted prior to
yesterday's interview; is that correct?

Yes.

CS: Did anybody tell you to delete


it?

No.

CS: Why did you delete it?

I was -- I was scared. And when


he called me, I like thought like maybe --
like, from what I've seen, like, on TV, I know
you're definitely not supposed to -- someone
is not supposed to call you to talk about
whatever is going on in the case that's going
on, so I was just nervous. And I really
didn't want have to have, like, anything to do
with that call.

CS: If -- if we were to get your cell


phone records, would we see other calls from
Derrek Hamilton prior to yesterday on there?

No. No.

CS: What about anybody else that --


let me ask it this way: Has anybody else,
other than Derrek Hamilton, contacted you
about your interviews?

I know just the -- Eric from --


that's his name, Eric, right? Yeah. Eric
from compliance. He was trying to call me,
what was it, two days ago?

AF: Yeah, Monday night.

Yeah, Monday night, to let me


know I had the meeting and I was asleep at the
time, so I didn't see his call and then I


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think someone, like, DK called me to tell me


to get contact -- and I didn't answer that.
He texted me and said to get in contact with
Eric. He was looking for me.

CS: Did you tell anybody else that


you were being interviewed prior to your
interview yesterday?

No.

CS: All right. That's all I've got,


guys. Thanks.

TH: Hey, . This is Tom Hosty


again. Can you help us understand how Derrek
Hamilton knew to call you yesterday, that you
were about to be reinterviewed. How did he
know; do you have any knowledge?

No, I have no idea.

TH: Okay. And it sounds like your


father has pulled together flight records and
the two of you have talked about this, which
is good. Do you have your father's phone
number so that if we need the call him and
talk to him, we can do that?

Yes.

TH: What's his number -- what's his


name and number?

AS: I have his number right here,


hold on.

TH: Okay. What's his name, .

TH: Okay.

AS: His phone number is, let's see,


.


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TH: Okay. And , do you know, if


your father is available today; do you think he
would be open to a phone call from us today?

Yeah.

TH: Okay. And it sounds like he's


pulled flight records and things like that; is
that correct?

Yeah. He should have those.

TH: Okay. All right. I think that's


all I have. Thanks, Russell.

CS: I've got one follow up, Tom and


Russell. We've talked about phone calls,
. Have you received any other form of
communication, text messages, or emails,
direct messages on Twitter, any other Facebook
messages, et cetera regarding this
investigation?

No.

CS: Derrek Hamilton has never texted


you?

No.

CS: All right. Thanks.

RR: Hay, . This is Russell.


Wanted to ask -- I think we talked about this
a little bit earlier, but did , whenever
y'all were planning your trip, did he ever say
how he knew Derrek?

No, he did not. He just said he


knows a basketball trainer, D-Ham. He was
working out with and and then
he was like, pretty much it's cool if we go
down to Atlanta to workout with him.

RR: Okay. Did ever mention


that he had worked out with Derrek?


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No, he didn't directly say that.

RR: What position did play; do


you remember?

He was a guard.

RR: , is there anything that we


talked about in your first interview that --
any of the topics that we covered, anything we
talked about, that you weren't forthcoming on
or anything else you want to add to any of
that?

No.

TH: Yeah, because Russell makes a good


point -- this is Tom, again, . That we
don't want to have a fourth interview. We're
going to continue our work. We're going to
continue to gather facts and so the last thing
that we need to do is to discover that there
was another discrepancy or issue where we --
that you were less than forthcoming.
So today is the day to kind of clear the
record, if you will, and tell us if there's
anything else from last week's interview that
you want to correct. And if you need to pause
and talk to your lawyer, that's fine. But we
just need to know if there's anything else
that is different from what you told us last
week.

No, I don't -- all those other


scenarios, I don't have nothing to do with.
Or everything that I told you is 100 percent
honest.

TH: Okay.

RR: Clint, Henry, Annie, did y'all


have any follow ups?

CS: No, I've got nothing else.


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RR: Okay. All right. Then I will


note -- , just want to go back over that
you're still under the confidentiality that we
talked about before. You're not allowed to
speak with anybody about what we've talked
about today; do you understand that?

Yes.

RR: Okay. All right. Then I'll note


that this interview concluded at 9:29 a.m.
Eastern Time. Thanks, .

Yep.

HG: Thank y'all.

-- END OF AUDIO --


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INTERVIEW OF
UNIVERSITY OF CONNECTICUT
FEBRUARY 26, 2018

RR: All right. So I would like to


note that it's 7:52 a.m. Eastern Time on Monday,
February the 26th, 2018. I'm here at the University
of Connecticut. For the purpose of voice
identification, I would like to ask each person in
the room to state their name and their title, and,
, we'll start with you, okay?

AS: Anthony Spinella, attorney for


.

CS: Clint Speegle, Lightfoot,


Franklin & White, outside counsel for the University
of Connecticut.

HG: Henry Gimenez, outside counsel


for UConn.

AF: Annie Fiorvanti, associate AD for


compliance at the University of Connecticut.

TH: And I'm Tom Hosty, I'm one of the


NCAA directors of enforcement.

RR: And I'm Russell Register, one of


the assistant directors of enforcement with the NCAA.
And I would like to note that the interview is being
recorded, and that before going on the record I asked
if it was okay to record today's interview,
and you said it was; is that right, ?

Yes.

RR: Okay. Also want to note on the


record that the institution is recording the
interview, but they have a verbal agreement to keep
that recording confidential pursuant to Division I
Bylaw 19.5.8 and to not share that with third
parties; is that correct, Clint?

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CS: Yes, sir, that is.

RR: All righty. So prior to going on


the record, you received a form entitled the NCAA
interview notice form. Did you have a chance to read
that form?

Yes.

RR: Okay. Do you understand that the


purpose of this interview is to determine whether you
have any knowledge of or involvement in any
violations of NCAA legislation?

Yes.

RR: Do you understand that you may be


represented by personal legal counsel, and you've
chosen to do so?

Yes.

RR: Okay. Do you understand that


NCAA Bylaw 10.1 obligates you to provide truthful and
complete information in this interview?

Yes.

RR: Okay. Do you understand that if


it's ever determined that you've provided false or
misleading information or withheld information in
this interview, then this could constitute a
violation of the NCAA principles of ethical conduct,
and could impact your eligibility as a student
athlete?

Yes.

RR: Do you understand the information


provided during this interview may be shared with
other NCAA departments?

Yes.

RR: Okay. Do you have any questions

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regarding any part of the interview notice form?

No.

RR: Okay. And did you sign and date


that form?

Yes.

RR: Okay. Perfect. Thank you, sir.


I told you there would be a bit to go through there,
always is.
All right. So, , I think we
have this info, but just to make sure it's on the
record, what's a good phone number to call you at if
we had to?

RR: Awesome. And what's a good


e-mail address for you?

@UCONN.EDU.

RR: Great. All righty. ,


where did you go to high school?

I went to ,
and at .

RR: Okay. Where is at?

In ,

RR: Okay. Got you. I'm not familiar


with --

Oh, you're fine.

RR: From , so definitely have


no idea. Okay. So you did --
?

Yeah.

RR: At ?

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Yeah.

RR: Okay.
?

RR: Okay. And that's here in


?

Yep.

RR: Awesome. And then what year are


you currently here at ?

RR:

Yeah.

RR:

RR: Okay. Got you. Awesome. And so


tell me -- I know since you're a this is
going to be taking you back just a bit --

Uh-huh.

RR: So when you were recruited, what


all schools were you looking at or were recruiting
you at that point?

It was . It
was a school called , I
think. But I didn't really want to go there, so I
ended up just coming to the school that I had
--

RR: Got you.

--

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RR: Very good. And so that kind of
answered my text question, which is why did you chose
UConn, so --

Oh, yeah,
, you know.
It's always been a dream of mine to come here, so it
was pretty easy.

RR: Yeah.

RR: Right?

Right.

RR:

Yeah, real easy.

RR: That's good. Who was your


primary live recruiting coach from UConn?

From UConn?

RR: Uh-huh.

RR: Okay.

So I think talked
to one of the assistant coaches just to see if
or anything like that, and
they talked, but I never like -- I was never able to
talk to like any of the assistant coaches or anything
until I was like enrolled into the school.
So he talked to them for a little bit,
just to tell them that I wasn't really wanting to go
to or whatever I was offered, and that
I wanted to come here, and he wanted to see whether
they had a spot for me.
So he talked to them. And then once I

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got admitted here, then I went and was able to talk
to them and like see where I stood.

RR: Got you. So -- and what position


do you play?

, I guess -- or
.

RR: Okay. Got you. So who is kind


of, I guess, your primary assistant coach that --
? Or who kind of --

That would be Coach --

RR: Okay.

-- right now.

RR: Got you. Who was it before he


got here?

Coach .

RR: Okay. Got you. All right. And


-- so I think you just talked about that you were a
here at the beginning; is that correct?

Yeah.

RR: So did you ever -- did you ever


take any visits or any unofficial visits to -- to
UConn?

No.

RR: Okay.

I had only been to a couple of


games as a kid, but I'd been so busy with basketball,
like in high school. And then when I went to
, there wasn't really any time to come up here
at all, so I just was never really -- I really never
came up onto the campus at all that much. I just
knew I wanted to come here.

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RR: Got you. So when was the first
time that -- that you came and saw the facilities and
everything?

It was after I was -- like after


classes already started and stuff. That was the
first time I had ever been in like the practice
facility or anything like that. But, I mean, I'd
been in Gampel before watching games.

RR: All right. Got you. Very good.


Okay. So wanted to kind of transition at this point
just to ask about -- these are just going to be
questions about different things that happen
regularly in the (unintelligible), you know, practice
and stuff like that.

Uh-huh.

RR: Just giving us a better picture.

Okay.

RR: So wanted to start with, do you


remember a staff member by the name of Dave Sevush?

Yeah.

RR: What was his position, do you


remember?

He was the video like


coordinator. He like -- like if guys needed help
with plays and stuff, they would go to him because he
would like film all the practices and like cut up
tape and all of that stuff.

RR: Okay. So what exactly -- did you


ever go to him for video or anything?

I did my
, just like, you know,
learn the plays because -- I mean, they do this to
every , I think. And it's like you just go to
him and learn the plays because you never know like
what's going to happen during the year. So it's good

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to just, you know, like keep up-to-date and make sure
that you know all the plays -- like the whole playbook
and stuff. But after that, I kind of -- I didn't
really need to go to him because I just -- you know,
after being here for four years, I kind of just knew
what the system was.

RR: Got you. Can you tell me about


whenever -- during your year when you would
go see Dave, what all did y'all do whenever you met
with him?

I mean, I only met with him -- I


probably literally only met with him once, but it was
just -- I mean, he brought me out to the court and
was like, okay, so this is this play, what do you do?
And then I just ran to my spot and did what I had to
do, and then he was like, okay, that's good, or no,
you need to fix this or something like that.
So it was like -- it wasn't that long
of a meeting. It was -- it took probably -- I mean,
probably like ten minutes. It wasn't that much.

RR: Okay. So this was just during


your year?

Yeah, no, I didn't really need to


go see him later -- after that.

RR: Got you. And you said it was


really quick, like ten minutes?

Yeah, it was -- I mean, it was


almost like I didn't really need to go because I
could have just watched the film, but, you know.

RR: And so where was that? Was that


in this facility, or?

Yeah, that -- or -- well, my


n year I think they were still in Gampel, the
offices, because they hadn't moved over yet. So I
think it might have been in Gampel, but -- I mean, I
think it was in Gampel, probably on the court.

RR: Okay. So was it you and Dave --

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Yeah.

RR: Was anybody else there?

No.

RR: Okay. And it was on the court in


Gampel?

Yeah.

RR: Probably?

Yeah.

RR: Okay. What exactly all would --


did y'all just go over plays on the court, or what
exactly happened in that ten minutes?

I mean, he would just -- he would


have just asked me like, do you know the plays or
anything -- or what plays do you need help with? And
I would just be like, oh, can we go over this play?
And then we would just go over that play real quick.
And then if I had any other questions, he would
answer them. If I didn't, then we would just move
on, or I would just, you know, tell him I'm good, and
then I would just leave.

RR: Okay. And to the best of your


recollection, that was just one time that you did
that?

Yeah. I think it was literally


one time.

RR: Okay.

Right in the beginning of the --


right when the season started.

RR: Okay. So was that around


Octoberish maybe or --

Probably, yeah.

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RR: Okay. Who -- how did you know to
go talk to Dave about going over plays?

I just knew that he was the guy


in charge of film, just because that's how he was
introduced. And I thought that, I mean, the guy
that's in charge of film and the plays, that I should
go to him and talk to him about the plays and stuff
like that.

RR: Okay. Did anyone ever say, you


know, you can go talk to Dave, he can help you with
plays or something like that? Or -- was that ever
said?

Probably. I mean, KO would say


that to like all the guys, that if they needed help
with plays, that they could go talk to him and go see
him -- or any of the coaches really. And so I kind
of just took that as, oh, if I need to know the
plays, then I'll go to him.

RR: When would coach say that --


Coach Ollie say that?

Usually at the end of practice or


if he's upset during practice and people aren't
running plays right.

RR: So normally -- kind of as a


general announcement?

Yeah. It's not like anything


specific unless you're specifically like messing up
the same thing over and over again. Then he'll like
kind of pull you aside and be like, you know, you got
to learn the plays.

RR: Okay. Would he say at that time,


you can go see Dave, he can help go over those? Or
what exactly would he say?

Yeah, pretty much just, you know,


don't be afraid to like go talk to Dave because like
that's what he's here for, like that's his specialty

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at this school. So don't be afraid to go talk to
him, and if you have any questions about plays, ask
him because there's like nothing wrong with not
knowing if you have the ability to just go to him and
talk and learn.

RR: Got you. Do you know were there


any other players that went and saw Dave to go over
plays?

That was more like an individual


thing, but I'm sure other players went just because,
you know, a lot of them messed up plays all the time,
just like any other team, so I'm sure they went. But
I was never -- I would never like -- I would never
see anybody else or anything like that. I would kind
of be doing my own thing.

RR: Got you. Would -- and I think


you mentioned this earlier. Would Dave also put
together a playbook or something like that? Or you
said he would cut film together?

Yeah. He would -- I think it was


him that does the -- he like -- if we have practice,
some practices we'll do like a bunch of plays, and
then he'll cut the film up so that each of them is
like labeled as each play, and so it would be easy to
watch it like online on our Hudl accounts.

RR: Okay. Would -- would he upload


those for y'all, or did you ever get them? How did
that work?

Yeah, he would just upload them


to the team Hudl account. And then we all have like
passcodes and stuff to be able to watch it, so then
everybody would have access to the same videos.

RR: Okay. Did you ever have to go


meet with him about the videos or anything, or?

No, unless I would just -- I


mean, sometimes they forget to put some videos up or
practices, so -- when I was younger, I wouldn't
really text -- because I wasn't really like

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established on the team, being like a younger person,
but as I got older, I kind of, you know, was able to
be like, hey, can you upload this practice, or
something, and then they would do that.

RR: Okay. Got you. I'm


going to pause right there, though, and see if other
folks have some questions, okay?

Okay.

CS: Yeah. You said that when Dave


Sevush was introduced, he was introduced as just the
film guy. What about that introduction made you
think that he could provide help with how to run a
particular play rather than just going to him to get
the film itself?

Well, I figured that if he's, you


know, cutting the film, watching the plays, and
breaking each play down in film, I would assume that
he would know each play pretty well, so I would just
go to him.

CS: But a coach never told you to


specifically go to him to go over the plays?

No, not really. I kind of just,


I guess, took initiative and went up to him and tried
to figure it out on my own.

CS: Okay.

TH: Is -- and just for the record, KO


is Coach Kevin Ollie?

Yeah.

TH: Okay.

Yeah. I can call him Coach Ollie


if you want. It doesn't --

TH: No, that's fine.

Okay.

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TH: But -- and I want to follow-up
with something Clint said. But you also described a
situation where when Coach Ollie would be at practice
and if guys were messing up plays he would say, don't
be afraid to get with Dave to learn the plays; is
that correct as well?

Yeah.

TH: Okay. And is Dave still here on


staff?

No.

TH: Okay. When did -- when did he


leave, do you remember?

He left earlier in the year. I


don't remember exactly.

TH: Okay.

But I think it might have been


either the summertime, maybe, or maybe a little
after.

TH: Of 2017?

Yeah.

TH: Okay. And so the -- the time


that you've been here at UConn --

Uh-huh.

TH: -- and while he was here, was


that sort of the -- one of his roles was to, what
you've described as far as he was a film guy, where
he would cut the plays, and if you needed help with
learning the plays, he would help the guys with that?

Yeah, yeah.

TH: Okay. All right.

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HG: And let me clear up in my mind,
when you said that coach or KO would tell
you to go see Dave if you needed help, was it your
impression that he was telling you that Dave would go
get you on the court, or that Dave would get you
access to the video and film that you could upload
and watch?

Well, when KO says that stuff, it


wasn't directed towards me because -- I mean, I'm
currently

HG: Right.

So I -- he was mostly talking to


the guys that were getting the minutes during the
games and stuff, to just -- you know, if they didn't
know plays, go talk to him.

HG: And was your impression that when


they would go talk to him, that Dave would be able to
just get them the film of those plays --

No, he --

HG: -- or he would actually get on


the court?

No. What he would do is you


would go up to his office, and he has the -- because
he cuts the film --

HG: Right.

So he would break down the film


with you, and, you know, watch each play with you and
make sure you knew exactly what was going on on each
play, and so you would hopefully learn it.

HG: Okay. And do you know any


players besides yourself that one time who actually
did that?

Specifically, no. But I know


eventually all of them went there just because why

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wouldn't you go talk to him and figure out plays?

HG: Okay.

CS: Do you know if in those film


sessions he was literally saying, you need to move
from the key to the baseline here, or was it more of
just running the cowboy clicker and running the film
itself?

I don't know for sure because I


wasn't really in a meeting like that. But I'm sure
he wouldn't just like press play, have you watch it,
and then go to the next clip. I'm sure he would kind
of guide somebody through it.

CS: You keep saying, I'm sure.


What's your basis of that? Is it just talking to
other student athletes or --

Yeah, I would --

CS: -- just an assumption?

-- I mean, dealing with coaching


my whole life, basketball, it wouldn't make sense to
have somebody on staff that wouldn't want to help a
kid and make it as easy as possible on him to learn a
playbook.

RR: Annie, do you have anything?

AF: No thanks.

RR: All right, I want to


talk about -- kind of transition a little bit here,
and talk about in the preseason -- so before y'all
started in-season --

Uh-huh.

RR: -- practice and stuff like that.


Did y'all ever have any pickup games or anything like
that, do you remember?

Yeah, well we only played -- we

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played pickup, depending on the week, a couple of
times a week. And sometimes it was, you know,
organized, like in the schedule, like you guys have
to -- you guys should go play pickup, or like some of
the guys, we were just coming at night, and then we
would go play.

RR: Okay. Was that normally just in


the preseason that y'all would play pickup, or did
that happen throughout the year?

Not during the year, but we would


play it in preseason and, I mean, during the
summertime too people would play pickup.

RR: Okay. Let's talk about it.


Because you mentioned it would be -- sometimes it
would be in the schedule.

Uh-huh.

RR: Or something. So how would you


know about those times? Did you get something that
told you, or did someone tell you? How did that
work?

Yeah. We have a -- like a team


group text that they send us like times to be places
and workouts and all of that.

RR: Got you. Who send that, do you


know?

The head managers.

RR: Okay. Who is -- who's currently


the head manager?

RR: Okay. Do you know 's last


name?

RR: ?

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Yeah.

RR: Who was it before , do you


remember?

It was and
.

RR: Okay. And those times where they


would text you, how often was that in preseason, do
you remember?

They text us every day.

RR: Okay.

Because we have stuff every day,


pretty much.

RR: Got you. Specifically -- sorry,


I should have worded that better. About the pickup
games in the preseason, how often was that that they
would text you about those?

To my best knowledge -- I think


we played maybe -- I mean, it varied. It depends --
like sometimes we wouldn't -- like the guys -- the
voluntary like pickup at night or whatever, sometimes
we wouldn't play, but we would probably play at least
once a week usually.

RR: Okay. Could that have been


multiple times, a couple of times a week, or do you
remember?

Yeah, I mean, it varied. Some


weeks we, you know, weren't as tired from lift or
something, and we would play more or whatever.

RR: Got you. Just depended on the


week?

Yeah, pretty much, yeah.

RR: All right. And where would --

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where would y'all play those pickup games at?

In the -- the practice facility.

RR: Okay. Who all was there for


those, do you remember?

It was usually just us, the guys


on the court.

RR: Was the managers there?

The managers were there because


they ran like the play clock and shot clock and stuff
like that.

RR: Okay.

It was usually just like one


manager.

RR: Okay. Do you know were they


keeping stats or anything during that or --

No, I don't think so. Not in


pickup.

RR: Do you know -- did you ever see


them doing that, or you just never really paid
attention to -- exactly to that?

No, I didn't really pay


attention, yeah.

RR: That's understandable.

Yeah.

RR: Was there anybody else that


wasn't a student athlete and not a manager there?

No, nobody else is really allowed


in the practice facility. Especially when we're all
there like playing and stuff, nobody else can really
go in the gym.

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RR: Okay. Was the trainer or
strength and conditioning coach, did they ever come
to those, do you know?

They would be in their offices


because we -- I mean, our trainer James is always in
his office just in case. Like if we're playing and
somebody, you know, gets hurt or something, he's
there. And then our strength coach is -- you know,
they all come to work every day, so they're always in
their offices.

RR: Got you. And I'm not familiar


with the facility, so I'm going to --
sorry for that.

Okay.

RR: So let me just ask, was their


offices, was it around the practice court or pretty
close to it? How exactly is that --

Yeah, so there's just -- it's the


court and then there's a hallway and then -- it's the
training room and then just -- the weight room is
down the hallway a little further.

RR: Okay. Could -- from his office


-- I think you said it's James Doran that's your
trainer?

Uh-huh.

RR: Could he see y'all practicing, or


--

No.

RR: No?

Huh-uh.

RR: So there's no windows where he


could see that or anything?

No.

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RR: Okay. Got you. So those pickup
games where the managers would text you about it, how
long did those normally last usually, do you
remember?

That also varied. Usually --


it's funny, they always went seven games because we
played best of seven. And they would usually last a
pretty long time just because everybody is
competitive so even if a team wins four in a row, the
other team is not going to, you know, get off the
court. They'll just keep playing.

RR: So to the best of your -- I'm


sorry to have to push on it --

Uh-huh.

RR: -- but how long do you think?

Probably I would guess no more


than two hours. That would be the longest time.

RR: Got you. Was that about average


for those pickup games, do you remember?

Yeah, I would say maybe -- I


mean, a little less. It just depends, again, on the
-- you know, on the week, whether we lifted heavy or
whatever it was.

RR: Got you. Okay. I'll pause


there. Tom?

TH: Yeah, did -- did the coaches ever


talk to the guys on the team about how the cap -- the
practices went, and how the pickup games went? Was
there any discussion with the coaches about it?

I don't know because, I mean, I


was only a -- or I was only a , so I
really wasn't in that position to really have, you
know, open dialogue with the coaches like that. So I
don't really know.

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TH: Okay. Thanks.

CS: I just want to make sure I'm


understanding right. You said in-season there were
no pickup games; is that correct?

Right.

CS: And then in the summer, there


were some pickup games?

Yeah, people would play pickup


occasionally at night.

CS: On those occasions, was it just


open gym, you could come in -- like someone would
tell you the gym's open if you want to play pickup?

Yeah, well we all have keys to


the gym, so we're all able to get in whenever we
want.

CS: When would these group texts --


what time of year would the group texts go out that
would say, you know, there's pickup games tonight?

The pickup games at night


wouldn't be organized through the managers. That
would kind of just be all the guys like texting each
other saying, hey, do you want to play pickup
tonight, and then a bunch of guys would respond -- or
if enough guys responded, yes, then we would all go
to the gym and then go play.

CS: What games would be organized by


the managers -- or you would find out through --

In preseason -- well, I mean, the


managers aren't organizing it, but they will be --
they would text us once school was in session, and
during the preseason, there would be some scheduled
pickup games.

CS: Have you ever heard the term,


"captain's practice"?

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Yeah.

CS: When were those captain's


practices?

To be honest, we never really


have captain's practices.

CS: You said that in some of these


texts it would say something along the lines of, you
guys need to go play pickup. Was that coming from a
coach or managers? Do you know who the source of
that statement was?

You said I said?

CS: Yeah. You said something along


the lines of, the text would say, you guys need to go
play pickup. Was that a coach saying that or a
manager saying that?

It would probably be one of the


captains of the team. Or, I mean, anybody really on
the team saying, we need to go play pickup.

CS: Did you ever have a coach tell


you that you needed to go play pickup?

They encouraged it, that we get


in the gym more as a team. But I don't -- again, I
was only a , so I wouldn't have that
interaction with a coach, him specifically telling me
to go play pickup, or have any knowledge of any
coaches telling somebody else to go play pickup.
But, I mean, it's encouraged to play basketball more.

CS: Okay. Thanks.

Yep.

RR: Henry, did you have anything?


Annie? Okay. just sticking with that,
just a couple of follow-up questions on that. Those
times during the preseason -- and I think it's --
there's a lot of -- there's a couple of different
things you described; right?

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Uh-huh.

RR: So there's sometimes when there


was pickup games where the managers would text you
about those; is that correct?

Yeah.

RR: And then there were other times


where just y'all as -- as players would text each
other to go at night?

Uh-huh.

RR: And then I think -- Clint asked


you a question about captain's practices.

Uh-huh.

RR: What exactly -- what's your


recollection of what -- what are those? Is that
something different?

I would say a captain's practice


is more of like, you know, running through plays as a
team instead of just kind of unorganized pickup, like
playing. I mean, depending on your definition of
captain's practice. I always thought a captain's
practice was more of like organization and like
trying to get something done that you couldn't get
done during regular practice time.

RR: And so where did you hear that


term from? Or how did that -- who talked about -- I
guess told you about captain's practices? How did
that --

Like the first time ever?

RR: Yeah, that you first heard about


it.

Oh, I heard about -- I mean, I


used to do it in high school.

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RR: Okay.

Because I was of my
high school team, and if we were, you know, playing
badly, I would, you know, call the guys or whatever
and go over plays, you know. Just do whatever to try
to figure out what was going on. Because, I mean,
you don't really need captain's practices when you're
playing well.

RR: Uh-huh.

So it usually happens when you're


not playing well.

RR: So did you ever -- have you ever


heard the coaches here at UConn ever refer to
anything as a captain's practice or anything like
that?

No.

RR: Okay. And let me see. And so


those times -- and just making sure that I have it in
my mind correct, sorry to keep going over
it --

Uh-huh.

RR: So the times where the managers


would text you about pickup games, are those the ones
where they would be there running the clock and that
type thing?

Yeah, yeah.

RR: Okay. And those were in


preseason?

Yes.

RR: Normally?

Yep.

RR: Okay. And just to confirm, you

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said those would normally last around two hours or
maybe a little bit less?

Yeah.

RR: Okay.

TH: I had a quick question.

RR: Yeah.

TH: More out of curiosity --

Uh-huh.

TH: So in these -- you would play the


best of seven, is that what you said?

Yeah. I mean, it’d just depend.


Like if -- it just depends on how guys are feeling.
Sometimes we only play like a few games and -- just
to kind of get our conditioning up.

TH: Uh-huh.

But other times, you know,


somebody is losing a lot, and they don't want to
leave the court losing, and so we play more.

TH: And how -- what would the -- what


constituted a game? Was there a different time
limit, or was it the first team that reached a
certain point?

Yeah. It was -- usually it was


game to 11.

TH: Game to 11?

Yeah.

TH: So what was the clock running


for? Why were the managers running a shot clock and
a play clock or whatever?

Well because when -- the shot

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clock wasn't working unless the game clock is running.

TH: Okay.

So somebody had to make sure the


game clock was running in order to have the shot
clock work.

TH: Got it. So did the game clock


matter when you were playing your games to 11?

No.

TH: Okay. It was the shot clock that


you wanted?

Yeah, yep.

TH: Okay. Got it. All right.


Thanks.

Yep.

HG: You mentioned -- I'm sorry.

RR: Yeah.

HG: Sometimes you guys had a lot of


energy, sometimes you didn't, and that might affect
sort of how long you played. Did you ever hear a
coach or a manager criticize any player, either for
not wanting to play or for not attending one of these
scrimmages -- or one of these practices?

No. But the players would


criticize one another if one player is kind of like
slacking off. I mean, we would try to hold ourselves
accountable as best we could.

HG: For sure. But as far as coaches


getting onto a specific player, making somebody run
after a regular practice or something like that for
how they behaved or performed, nothing like that?

No.

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RR: And, just to -- one
last little follow-up there, sorry. How many years
since you've been here -- since you're , so
you've been here --

Uh-huh.

RR: -- did y'all have those in


preseason, those practice sessions in preseason?

Probably -- well, because I was a


-- my year I wasn't able to do
anything with the team before the season started, so
I don't know. I mean, I'm sure they did. But ever
since .

RR: Okay. Got you. Thank you,

Yep.

RR: Okay. Just wanted to ask -- and


this is very general questions, okay?

Okay.

RR: So just to help me get a better


picture of what happens during practice.

Okay.

RR: So if you could, walk me through


kind of what is a normal practice. And I know that
is a tough question in and of itself because no
practice is the same; right?

Right.

RR: So if you could talk about kind


of an average or kind of normally what happens all
the way from when you have to report to like when
it's done. I know that's a little bit tough --

Every detail?

RR: You don't have to go through

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every little detail. We might have some follow-up --

Okay.

RR: Just kind of what are some


activities that you do. And you can start with like,
you know, whenever you have to get to the gym, like
what do you do before practice and then during it,
okay?

Depending on the day, we would


have lift before practice, and I think that was
probably only like twice a week. In the preseason,
it's more. But --

RR: How long would that normally


last, do you think?

No more than an hour.

RR: Okay.

They try to usually keep it


short.

RR: Got you.

Just so that we're not, you know,


dead tired for whatever we have to do later on. But
at practice, we would like do our stretching, warming
up, all that stuff. And then we would -- we would do
like a defensive drill. They would do that for a
little bit or however long it took for them to get
through that. Then we would shoot --
They would like separate between
guards and bigs, and then -- which is -- like the
bigs are like the bigger guys on the team, like the
centers and the power forwards. And they would split
up. One on -- those two groups on each end. And so
the guards would do their own like kind of ball
handling, shooting, whatever; and the bigs would do,
you know, postmoves and rebounding and all of that
stuff.
And then that would go on for, you
know, probably like five minutes, ten minutes, and
then we would all -- you know, either he would break

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us down and we would shoot free throws, or we would
all meet up on one half of the court and then we
would run plays and then whatever drills he had us
do, whether that be, you know, a box out drill or the
walk-ons come on and then they do -- like they box us
out, and then they have to run the floor and like run
a play, or whatever. You know, I mean, it just
varied each practice.

RR: Okay. How long -- I think you


talked about that y'all would stretch before
practice. How -- would the strength and conditioning
coach, did they ever lead that? Or how did that
work?

The -- yeah, the strength coach


usually leads it.

RR: How long does that normally last?

Five minutes. Maybe ten minutes.

RR: Got you. And then I think you


talked about, you know, separating kind of the big
players -- you know, the tall players.

Right, yep.

RR: Is that kind of -- is that bigs,


littles, is that that kind of thing, separating?

Yeah.

RR: Okay. And how long would that


normally go for?

I would say like ten minutes.

RR: Okay.

Yeah.

RR: And then y'all would move into


kind of specific drills and different things --

Yeah, more like integrated as a

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team instead of separate as positions.

RR: Got you. How long would you say


kind of a practice normally goes for?

Less than two hours. I would say


probably hour and 45.

RR: Got you. And I know with like --


we call it CARA, right, the countable
athletic-related activities, that long name --

Uh-huh.

RR: Like keeping up with how long


practices are and everything like that --

Uh-huh.

RR: Did you -- you know, it's also


how many days you have off; right?

Yep.

RR: That's something we have to keep


up with.

Yep.

RR: Do you always feel that you got


an off day during the week?

Yeah, we get an off day once a


week.

RR: Okay. Do you ever feel like --


that practices or different things that you were
required to be at during a day, did that ever go over
four hours a day, do you --

No.

RR: -- remember?

Four hours? No. That's way too


long.

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RR: Pretty easy to remember if it
goes over that long; right?

Yeah, no, I would remember that


for sure.

RR: All right. I'll pause there.

TH: How about did you ever -- the


20 hours a week, did you ever feel you went over or
under?

No, not really. I mean, with


traveling and stuff like during the year, it always
felt like a lot longer, but that wasn't like
physically doing practice. That was why because we
were always, you know, on the road, and that gets
tiring after a couple of months.

TH: But otherwise, you felt like you


did not go over 20 hours?

Yeah.

TH: Okay.

Right.

TH: Thanks.

Yep.

CS: How did film work? When did


y'all do film?

Before practice.

CS: And that was as a team?

Yeah. During -- we don't do that


in preseason, but we do that during the season to
like look at other team's plays and like get prepared
for them and stuff like that.

CS: Is that daily?

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No. It's usually like two days
before games. And then we do the practice where we
kind of go over the scout and stuff, and then -- I
think it's two days before games, but it might be the
day before. But sometimes if -- like we'll watch
practice too. Or we'll usually -- we'll watch film
after a game day too just to like break down what we
did wrong so then we can correct it in practice.
Yeah.

CS: So let's break it down. First,


before a game when you're doing the scouting film --

Uh-huh.

CS: -- how long would those film


sessions last?

Probably like 20 to 25 -- it just


depends on what team. So probably like 25 minutes to
a half hour. Just depends on whether it was like,
you know, a big-time matchup or, you know, a
not-so-big-time matchup.

CS: What about after the game when


you were --

Again, probably -- I mean, it's


kind of hard to -- there's no clocks in there, so I
can't really be specific with the time. And it
always feels longer than it actually is in the film
room. But I would say no more than 20 minutes.

CS: Do you ever recall any off days


being cancelled after a loss?

No. They usually -- like they're


usually like set in stone as far as off days.

RR: Annie, did you have anything?

AF: No, thanks.

RR: Okay. Thank you, that


helps give us a better picture of that.

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Yep.

RR: I appreciate it. Want to ask


about an individual by the name of Derrick Hamilton.
Have you ever heard that name before? Okay. Can I
show you a picture, see if you've ever seen him
before?

CS: He's shaking his head no.

RR: No, was that a no?

I thought you -- I thought you


messed up in there. I thought you were talking about
Daniel.

RR: Right, no.

I was like --

RR: No, Derrick Hamilton.

No.

RR: Have you heard that name before?

No.

RR: That's a no? Okay. Can I show


you a picture to see if you've seen this individual
before?

Okay.

RR: Okay? Just for the record, I'm


showing a picture entitled Enforcement
Exhibit 1. Have you ever seen him before?

Yeah, I actually think I have


seen him before. He's -- I think I saw him with KO
one time. I think they're friends -- or he's from
Los Angeles, like where he's from. But I never like
talked to him. He was always with KO.

RR: Okay. So -- so when was that

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that you might have seen him before, as you recall?

I don't know. I don't really


remember like when I would see him. I just -- I've
seen him before like with KO. I think they're -- I
think they're friends like from like back when he was
in high school or something. But I don't know for
sure.

RR: Okay. Was that just one time


that you might have seen him?

I mean, I saw him on multiple


occasions, but it wasn't -- it wasn't just one time,
but again, he was usually just with KO, so I kind of
just let them do their thing, and I did my own thing.

RR: Where was that at that you saw


them together?

They would -- I usually only see


KO in the practice facility, so that's where I saw
him.

RR: Okay. And I know this is


probably going back in detail, but can you remember
what years that was that you might have seen him
around, talking about Derrick, the man in this
picture here?

Probably my sophomore year.

RR: So would that have been like


?

Yeah.

RR: Okay. Did you see him any other


years after that?

No, I haven't seen him in a


little bit, honestly.

RR: Okay. So during your sophomore


year when you -- did you see him a couple of times
that year?

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Yeah, I saw him over the
summertime. I saw him like a couple of times. But
like during -- once the school year actually starts
then, you know -- I mean, he was only -- from -- I
mean, I can't speak on it because I don't know for
sure, but it was a very brief amount of time that I
remember seeing him.

RR: Okay. Do you know did he ever


have any interaction with players or anything? Did
you ever see him --

I didn't see anything, no.

RR: Okay.

I would always just see him with


KO.

RR: Okay. Did you hear any other


players say that they had any practices with -- and
this is Derrick Hamilton. Did you have any -- hear
that they ever had any practices with Derrick
Hamilton or anything like that?

No.

RR: Okay. Clint, did you have


anything?

CS: Nothing on that.

AF: Can I just see the picture?

RR: Yeah.

AF: Thanks.

RR: Did you have anything? Okay.


who is Carlos Daniel?

He was our strength coach.

RR: Okay. How long was he the


strength coach for y'all?

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It was the summer and preseason
-- this past summer and this past preseason.

RR: So for a pretty short amount of


time or how long?

Yeah, it was really short.

RR: Okay. With his -- who was the


strength coach before him?

His name was Travis. Travis


Illian, I think his last name was.

RR: Okay. Wanted to ask, was there


any differences between the strength sessions that
Travis would do and the strength sessions that Carlos
would do? Was there any noticeable differences that
you can recall?

I guess the style of the like


workouts. I feel like Coach Daniel's was more like
basketball-focused, like different kinds of exercises
with resistance bands and, you know, different stuff
like that. But, I mean, I feel like every strength
coach has a different style just depending on where
they learned how to like lift weights themselves.

RR: Right. Did -- did y'all ever do


any strength and conditioning sessions with Carlos
that were out on the court, anything like that that
you can remember?

We conditioned on the court. But


-- or we did some circuits on the court too where we
would, you know, have different -- like we would have
medicine balls or we would, you know, have like a
ladder drill or something like that that we would do
on the court as part of the exercises. But we should
usually be in the weight room.

RR: Okay. Those times that you were


out on the court with Carlos doing different things,
did any of that ever involve a basketball?

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No.

RR: The different exercises or things


that you would use the medicine ball for --

Uh-huh.

RR: -- what exactly -- can you


describe that for me? I know that's like -- kind of
a weird question, but if you could.

We threw it up against the wall a


lot.

RR: Uh-huh.

And then -- what else did we do?


I mean, we would stretch out there too just because
he needed more space for us to, you know, stretch and
warmup. And then usually at the end of practice, we
would do the stuff with like the medicine balls as
kind of like a burnout.

RR: Got you. Did y'all ever do any


drills or do anything that you felt was practice-type
activities?

No. It was more so why like


physical -- like physically demanding than more
basketball-related.

RR: Okay. So you felt it was -- it


was just strength --

Yeah.

RR: -- activities? Okay.

Unfortunately.

RR: Okay. Clint?

CS: Nothing.

RR: Annie? All right. So going to


transition here again, sorry.

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Yep.

RR: I want to talk about a recruit.


And this was -- I think it was a year or a year and a
little bit ago.

Uh-huh.

RR: His name is ?

Uh-huh.

RR: Do you remember ?

Yeah, I know , yeah.

RR: Okay. So you know -- where is


currently?

RR: Okay. Do you remember him coming


to any games or taking any visits to campus?

I think I saw him at one game,


and it was right before he was about to make his like
decision. I think it was the XL Center.

RR: Okay. Do you remember did he


come on an official visit?

Yeah. I mean, I'm sure he did.


But I kind of, again, was like separated from that
because -- like I was never a host or anything like
that, so if I saw him, I would see him like very
briefly like walking around campus or something like
that. But then either I would have like a lift or
something or class or whatever, so I wouldn't really,
you know, interact with him too much.

RR: Okay. So -- he did come on an


official visit. But just want to ask, were you
involved in any events around that, do you remember?
Or -- do you recall that at all?

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No, not an event or anything, no.

RR: Okay. So if there was a meal at


Coach Ollie's house that went to, would you
have been there? Or do you recall that at all?

We -- we do have -- sometimes KO
like, you know, has us over like to watch a game or
something, and he'll have the whole team over. I
think there was one time that was there with
his family.

RR: Okay. Do you remember who was he


with?

Oh, I think his mom, maybe his


brother, but I don't remember any really specific
details. I wasn't -- I mean, again, I wasn't really
paying attention. I was kind of just letting -- I
was just like, you know, just with the rest of the
guys.

RR: Okay. And so during that, that


particular meal at coach's house --

Uh-huh.

RR: -- Coach Ollie's house, do you


ever remember him and going to talk somewhere
or --

No, he usually -- well, one of


his good friends on the team, he kind of let
him, you know, just hang out with him and the rest of
the guys, I guess just to try to make him comfortable
and have him come here, I would assume.

RR: Okay. So you don't remember much


-- like specifics from --

No.

RR: -- from that meeting?

No.

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RR: Okay.

Yeah, it was a little bit ago


too.

RR: Got you.

Yeah.

RR: Wanted to ask about -- I think


you said that you saw at a game one time.

Uh-huh.

RR: Do you remember who he was with


then?

No, I don't. I don't remember.


I think it might have been -- again, I think it might
have been again his brother or his mom or both.

RR: Got you. Do you remember were


they talking with anybody or --

No, they -- well, I only -- I saw


them, and we were already like on the court warming
up and stuff, so I like -- kind of just like looked
over and saw him, and then don't remember like
anything else because I was like focused on the stuff
in front of me.

RR: Yeah. You had a little bit of


other things going on.

Yeah, yeah.

RR: I definitely get it. All right.


Clint, do you have anything?

CS: No.

RR: Okay. All right. I


wanted to ask about an individual by the name of
Danny Griffin?

Okay.

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RR: Do you remember Danny?

Yep.

RR: Okay. What was Danny's role here


at UConn?

He kind of -- I guess player


development and not in terms of on-the-court, but it
was more so like if you had any like life questions,
I guess, or like, you know -- I don't know. Just
like -- he was kind of just there for you. He was
like a support -- I guess a support staff.

RR: Got you. Do you ever remember


was -- did Danny come to practices or anything like
that?

No. I never really saw him at


practices or anything like that.

RR: So the team's interaction with


Danny, what was that about? I mean, what would y'all
go to him for?

I mean, it was like -- it was


more so if you just, you know, wanted to talk to
someone. And like everybody was cool with him, so
you could go to him about anything. And he would --
he would sometimes organize meetings, like if -- with
-- if there was a -- what's it called? He organized
a meeting with like -- I don't know who it was. It
was someone from -- not the NBA. It was a -- it was
like how to conduct yourself properly or something,
like different stuff like that. Like nothing really
basketball-related, but more so like trying to get
you better at like being a good person.

RR: Okay. So you -- did you ever


have any sessions with him where he would talk to you
about practice or plays or anything like that?

No.

RR: Okay. And you said -- do you --

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you don't recall him being at practice?

No.

RR: Any time?

Nope.

RR: Okay. Tom, you have anything?

TH: Did he -- did Danny Griffin, did


he ever help with any recruiting activities?

No. I don't know. I was -- I'm


kind of, you know, separate from the whole recruiting
aspect, so I don't know.

TH: And was he here in Storrs, or was


he also based out of California? Or do you know.

I know he's from California, but


when he was on staff, I don't know where he lived.

TH: Was he here full time?

I don't know for sure. I mean, I


would see him occasionally.

TH: Uh-huh.

But I don't -- again, I don't


really know.

TH: Okay.

RR: Clint?

CS: Nothing?

RR: Got you. Annie? Okay. All


right. you're almost done.

All right.

RR: Just last couple of little topics


here.

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Uh-huh.

RR: Have you ever heard of an


individual by the name of Boo Willingham?

Yeah, that's -- I think that was


KO's roommate, I think.

RR: Okay.

Yeah.

RR: Have you ever met him, do you


know?

Yeah. He comes to some games.

RR: Okay. Have you ever seen him at


practice or in the offices or anything like that?

No, we're -- he's only -- he


usually comes to just like big-time games and stuff
like that.

RR: Okay. And I know you're kind of


busy during those games, so --

Right.

RR: Did you ever -- when you saw him


at the games, what was -- what was he doing whenever
you would see him?

What was he doing?

RR: Uh-huh.

I mean, he was usually just like


watching the game.

RR: Okay.

Yeah.

RR: Was it just brief times that you

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would see him?

Yeah, I would just like say hello


just because, you know, pay respect to somebody who
used to play here, but he would usually like be with
his girlfriend or whoever, and he would just be
watching the game.

RR: Okay. Do you ever remember a


time seeing him with a recruit or a prospective
student athlete or anything like that?

No. I mean, they -- because they


sit in the same section because I'm sure KO gives him
the ticket. So he gets pretty good seats, and I'm --
they're in the same section, but I don't recall him
ever talking to a recruit.

RR: Okay. When you say that he sits


in the same section, so is it the section -- the
recruiting section? Like the seats?

I don't know whether it's the


recruiting section, but it's just like the section
behind the bench.

RR: Oh, okay. Is that where some


recruits would sit sometimes?

Yeah.

RR: Okay. And that's where you would


normally see Boo if he was in the stands?

Yep.

RR: Okay. Tom? Clint?

TH: Nope.

RR: Okay. All right. Last little


area of questions for you, Have you ever
-- on the team has there ever been anything said
about a teammate being paid to come to UConn?

No.

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RR: Has that ever -- someone had an
inkling or a thought or a feeling that that might
have happened?

No.

RR: Okay. So that's never --

No --

RR: I'm sorry.

No, I was going to say with all


of this stuff going on and they see, you know, people
getting paid $100,000 and like everybody kind of, you
know, wishes it was -- not wishes it was them because
it's, you know, technically the wrong thing to do.
But, you know --

RR: Right.

-- people -- we're just talking


about it and stuff like that.

RR: Okay. So there's -- has there


ever been a point where that was a rumor amongst the
team that one of your teammates was paid?

No.

RR: Or they got anything to come to


UConn?

No.

RR: Okay. All right.


thank you for your time today, really appreciate it.

No problem.

RR: You've helped develop our facts and


give us a better understanding, so we really
appreciate that.
Before -- just have a little bit more
to read, sorry about that.

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That's okay.

RR: So before I do that, is there


anything that we've talked about today that you want
to add to or clarify?

Nope.

RR: Okay. All right. Then the last


thing I need to tell you is that NCAA legislation
requires that you help protect the integrity of this
investigation; therefore, as the investigation
continues, we ask that you're not permitted to speak
with others about what we discussed today or any
information related to this investigation except that
you may speak with your personal legal counsel,
others present in the room, and myself.
Failure to protect the integrity of
this investigation could result in an allegation that
you've violated the principles of ethical conduct
and/or the cooperative principle. So do you
understand those statements?

Yes.

RR: Okay. At some point after the


NCAA completes its investigation, someone else
involved as a party in this case or their attorney,
legal counsel, or representative, may request to
interview you about matters related to this case, and
we encourage you to agree to speak with them just as
you've agreed to speak with us.
This doesn't include any
representatives of the media. So we ask that you
don't speak to the media.

Okay.

RR: If you do have any questions


about who you can and cannot talk to, please feel
free to reach out to your counsel or myself. We'll
be happy to help you with that, okay?

Okay.

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RR: Do you have any final questions
for me?

Nope, I'm all set.

RR: All right. Then I'll note for


the record that this interview concluded at 8:51 a.m.
Eastern Time. Thank you, sir.

Thank you.

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INTERVIEW OF DWAYNE KILLINGS


UNIVERSITY OF CONNECTICUT
FEBRUARY 27, 2018

RR: All right. So I'll note that it


is 10:19 a.m. Eastern Time on Tuesday,
February the 27th, 2018. I'm here at the
University of Connecticut.
And for the purpose of voice
identification, I'd like to ask each person in
the room to state their name and title. And
Coach, we'll start with you, okay?

DK: Dwayne Killings, assistant


basketball coach, University of Connecticut.

JL: John Langel, retired partner,


Ballad Spahr.

CS: Clint Speegle, outside counsel


for the institution.

HG: Henry Gimenez, outside counsel


for UConn.

AF: Annie Fiorvanti, associate AD for


compliance at UConn.

TH: Tom Hosty. I'm one of the NCAA


directors of enforcement.

RR: And I'm Russell Register. I'm one


of the assistant directors of enforcement with
the NCAA.
I'd like to note that the interview is
being recorded, but prior to going on the
record and starting the recording, I asked
Dwayne if it was okay to record; and you said
it was; is that correct, sir?

DK: Correct.

RR: Okay. And also want to note on


the record that the institution is recording
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agreement with us to keep that confidential;


is that correct, Clint?

CS: That's correct.

RR: So prior to going on the record,


you received a form entitled NCAA interview
notice form. Did you have a chance to read
this form?

DK: Yes.

RR: Okay. Do you understand that the


purpose of this interview is to determine
whether you have any knowledge or involvement
in any violations of NCAA legislation?

DK: Yes.

RR: Yes. Okay. Do you understand


that you may be represented by personal legal
counsel during this interview and you've
chosen to do so?

DK: Yes.

RR: Okay. Do you understand that


NCAA bylaw 10.1 obligates you to provide
truthful and complete information in the
interview?

DK: Yes.

RR: Do you understand that if it is


ever determined that you provided false or
misleading information or withheld information
in this interview, that this could constitute
a violation of the NCAA principles of ethical
conduct and could impact your athletically
related duties as a staff member at an NCAA
institution?

DK: Yes.

RR: Do you understand that


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be shared with other NCAA departments?

DK: Yes.

RR: Do you have any questions


regarding any part of the interview notice
form?

DK: No.

RR: Okay. Did you sign and date that


form?

DK: Yes.

RR: Okay. Perfect. I always feel


silly asking that because I can see that you
have, but just for the record, to note that
you did.

DK: I got you.

JL: One comment I made before we went


on the record -- I didn't realize we were not
yet on the record.

RR: Got you.

JL: That when you say -- he


understands that he's here to determine
whether he has knowledge of or involvement in
any violation. Beyond knowing that's why he
is here, we do not know of the particulars as
to why he is here and we had reached out to
the Lightfoot firm knowing that they were
representing the university to get some
details of why Dwayne was going to be here.
And we were not successful in that. I
understand why we were not successful. But I
do want the record to reflect that we're
pretty much in the dark.

TH: Okay. That's fair.

RR: Okay. No problem. Oh, thank


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out with kind of your work history, if you


don't mind. What positions have you had and
where at?

DK: I started my career with the


Charlotte Bobcats, they're now the Charlotte
Hornets. Moved on from there to Temple
University. Was assistant director of
basketball operations. I held that position
for three years.
From there, I went to the NBA league
office -- inaudible. I went to the NBA league
office, then I went to Boston University where
I worked for Pat Chambers as an assistant
coach. Then I returned to Temple as an
assistant coach where I worked for Coach
Dunphy for five years.
And then I came here to the University of
Connecticut working for Coach Ollie starting
last season.

RR: Okay. Okay. So yeah, you've


made a few switches in there.

DK: Uh-huh.

RR: So when you started -- so '16,


'17 was your first season here?
SDK.

RR: Got you. And then when did you


start during that year?

DK: I started right before the live


period, so that was probably July 5th, 6th,
something like that. It was right after the
fourth of July of 2016.

RR: Got you. And so I know it's hard


to put in a nutshell, but what are your
responsibilities as assistant coach?

DK: As an assistant from a


basketball, you know, on court development
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and ideas from an offensive and defensive


standpoint, recruiting.
Have responsibility of recruiting kids in
all of the upcoming classes, I guess I'd say.
As well as supporting and assisting Coach
Ollie as he directs and also mentoring our
kids. Keeping them on track academically. We
kind of break things up on our staff.
We have three or four kids that we'll
mentor individually so you have kind of a
better understanding of where they are
academically, socially, those kind of things.

RR: Okay. And do you have a specific


region that you recruit, or how is that
working out?

DK: No. Here, with Coach, every -- I


think we recruit nationally. It's a little
bit more of a national footprint. It's kind
of, you know, where you think you have the,
you know, best relationships or the best feel
for different players. And then we'll go
after different kids as we see fit.
So there's no real geographic restrictions.
There's kind of all go out and kind of figure
out who has the best relationship, the best
feel for a student -- student athlete.

RR: Got you. Very good. How does


staff meetings work? How often do you have
them, that type thing?

DK: I would say we probably meet


every day. Timing is always different. In
season, I'd say we meet for two or three hours
before practice, talk about game plans. We'll
talk about any issues that our students have.
We'll talk about academics, usually, a couple
times a week.
We'll go over anything with compliance. If
there's been, you know, a topic or recruiting
stuff that's coming up. And then that's kind
of how we'll prepare. And then every day in
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our different players or game planning,


whatever happens.
So we'll kind of go over the topics of the
day. Postseason, it kind of shifts from
heavier on the basketball; we're heavier on
the recruiting side. We'll talk about, you
know, recruiting, upcoming spring events,
summer events. Who's coming on campus, what's
going on, those kind of things.

RR: Okay. So you don't, like, a


separate -- or do you have a separate
recruiting meeting or is it all kind of lumped
together and kind of one meeting?

DK: It's typically lumped in


together. You know, we may have a recruiting
meeting if there's -- you know, say for
instance, you're in November, December and
kids are about to transfer, we may have a
meeting just about one particular kid. You
know, do we feel like he's a good fit. He
might be interested in coming. You know,
what's the consensus in the room, those kind
of things.

RR: Okay. Very good. Who is


normally in the room for those meetings or who
all attends?

DK: Our entire staff. So it'd be


myself, Ricky Moore, Coach Chillious, Coach
Ollie obviously, Kevin Freeman is our director
of operations, who is our graduate
assistant, our video coordinator.
That's typically, you know, who's in the
meetings. Sometimes Coach Ollie's assistant
will come in if there's travel arrangements
that need to be made, those kind of things.

RR: Okay. Wanted to ask about --


going to transition just a little bit
particular specific questions. But this is
still kind of broad.
Ask about kind of practice and how that is
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there a practice plan that y'all put together


or how does that work?

DK: Yeah, we'll put together a


practice plan. So for instance, if it's --
tomorrow, we'll play Temple University.
I have that scout. So the person who has
the scout kind of has a little bit more input
about what you're going to do in terms of
practice because you have a better feel for
the team you're going to play and what you
could see offensively and defensively.
So you know, we'll put it -- we'll break it
down from stretching all the way down through
different drills that we'll do. It's broken
up by time. So say, you start at 1:00,
stretching, 1:00 to 1:10. 1:10 to 1:30, yeah,
do shell defense. 1:30 to 1:35, you know,
water break, those kind of things.
So usually, it's broken down for the --
this time of year, you know, you're
practicing, like, an hour, 15. Or an hour, 30
or hour, 45. So the entire time is broken
down to include, you know, film. We do that
on the front end.

RR: Okay. Who normally puts those --


that practice plan together specifically? Is
that all of y'all or one person?

DK: We'll all talk and then Tony


Vasaturo, our video guy will actually
type it all and then we can all see it on the
monitor that we see in the conference room.

RR: Okay. And then is there any


post-practice report or any anything like that
that y'all get?

DK: No. No.

RR: Okay.

DK: No. We may talk about practice,


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RR: I want to show you a document


just to see. I think -- it looks like a
practice plan, so let me see if you've seen
one like this. So just to note for the
record, this is Bates stamped as UConn 1184.
So does that document -- does anything like
that look familiar?

DK: This -- this may be before --


it's similar, but the format that we use now
is different.

RR: Okay. And it's from 2015, so


it's a little bit back.

DK: Yeah. I mean, it's similar, but


it's -- you know, there's a little bit -- the
form that we use now has a little bit more
detail, but very similar.

RR: Okay. Would -- whenever y'all


are planning the practice plan before the
actual practice, do y'all give it, like, a how
long you want each drill to last or are you
that specific?

DK: We'll -- as I stated, we'll go


from like 1:00 to 1:10 for each drill. Say,
we'll go, you know, 1:00 -- so 1:30 being the
time to 1:45, you know, if we're going to do
shooting drills. So that'd be 15 minutes.
We usually use the clock in the gym to, you
know, run down the time. I think that one --
usually, there's a -- one of our managers that
work the clock.

RR: Uh-huh.

DK: I think he actually records how


much time we actually use. So if we go 13
minutes versus 15 minutes or so on and so
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DK: And I think he even takes that


information -- I think it's compiled -- I
think Kevin Freeman monitors that if -- I'm
not sure. Annie, you could speak on it. I
think you get those reports.

AF: The CARA logs.

DK: Okay. Yeah.

AF: Yeah. Uh-huh.

RR: And you already -- you went on to


my next question, so a good time -- I was
going to ask about the CARA logs. Kind of do
you know who actually inputs that information?

DK: I think it goes from -- I


believe.

RR: Uh-huh. That's okay.

DK: I believe it goes from our


manager to Kevin Freeman; Kevin Freeman then
submits it to our compliance office, I
believe.
Typically, at the places I've worked, those
logs are usually done by the director of
operations, so I haven't really been involved
in it.

RR: That's fine. Is there -- kind of


how do y'all keep up with -- because there's
only so many hours in a week, right, that you
can actually do countable activity, and then
so many hours per day.
So who keeps up with, you know, making sure
that practices don't go over or that you don't
have too many hours in a week?

DK: So Kevin Freeman, our director of


operations, will get the monthly calendar.

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have our days that we'll practice. So we'll


have that up, we'll talk about it, so that way
before we submit the CARA logs, we can discuss
if we want to move a day off, given travel,
given recruiting, given certain events that
are going on.
So we'll come into agreement there and then
he'll monitor, like, if we're writing up
practice and we have any time constraints
that's coming up, he'll say, hey, we need to
cut this back or whatever reason it may be.
So he's kind of the governor in the room of,
you know, practice management.

RR: Okay. So and that answers my


next question. So just to clarify, so if
there might be an issue and practice has to be
manipulated as far as, like, time limits, it's
Kevin Freeman who is alerting y'all to that?

DK: Yeah. Correct.

RR: The assistant coaches.

DK: Correct. Correct. I mean, if,


you know, one of us catches it because we have
a feel for it, we can say it. But usually,
he's the person in the room.

RR: Okay. Wanted to ask -- and


sorry, just to go back kind of on the list of
events and everything. When do -- do y'all
have film review that you do?

DK: With the team or as a staff?

RR: With the team. I'm sorry, with


the team.

DK: Yes.

RR: When does that normally take


place?

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after -- we could do one at the beginning and


then one at the back end of practice. Like,
today's practice, we may do film; we may not.
You know, it's up to Coach. But after
practice, we'll typically watch what we call a
scout tape. It's usual five to ten minutes.
You know, just plays and highlights of the
team that we'll play. That's usually the only
time, the day before games, that we'll
actually do film after practice. We usually
do most of it on the front end.

RR: Okay. So how long did those


sessions on the front end normally last?

DK: I'd say 10 to 20 minutes most


times. I mean, just -- sometimes it's --
there's a conversation, they go into
questions, all those things. So it could go
to 30 minutes. But usually it's ten to 20
minutes, I'd say.
RR: Okay. I got you. And you said
after games sometime there's post-practice
film; is that right or when does that happen?

DK: After? No. No. No. So we --


after practice, we do film.

RR: I'm sorry, after practice, yes.

DK: After practice, we can do film.

RR: Okay.

DK: And those usually take, I'd say,


ten minutes. You know, it's just highlights.
We'll go through them. That's only usually
the day before we play a game. So we call it
the scout tape.

RR: Okay got you. Very good. And so


going into -- and I know no two practices are
the same. It's hard to actually have a
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RR: But how long -- is there like a


stretching, a warm-up type thing that happen at
the beginning?

DK: Yeah. So our strength and


conditioning coach, sorry, he'll put us
through stretching. Usually, it's about ten
minutes. It's like a warm-up. It's usually --
I'd say it's usually ten minutes.

RR: Okay. Has there ever been any


time that -- since you've been here that you
felt like, you know, practice went over four
hours or anything countable in a day went over
that long?

DK: No.

RR: Do you feel like the team or that


y'all keep track of always has an off day when
they're supposed to?

DK: Yeah. Yeah. We've -- I think


especially with the new legislation that's
been in, you know, everybody is a lot more
cognizant of off days, but also, you know, off
days being no one really around.
I think we've even communicated with
compliance a couple times where we might have
wanted to -- you know, somebody might need to
have a meeting, you know, with somebody on
campus; does that -- is hah okay given that
it's an off day, those kind of things.
So I think we -- you know, we adhere to
that rule the best that we possibly can. So I
think we communicate with them all the time if
we're in a gray area just to get clarity.

RR: Got you. Given the new CARA,


RARA?

DK: Uh-huh.

RR: All that kind of stuff. Got you.


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TH: Huh-uh.

RR: Clint?

CS: Huh-uh.

RR: Annie? Okay. All right. Coach,


thanks. That gives me a better picture of
kind of how practice and that stuff --

DK: Uh-huh.

RR: That type of stuff works. I want


to ask about, were you here during the time
that Dave Sevush was here?

DK: Yes. Last year.

RR: Okay. What was Dave's role on


the staff?

DK: Dave was our -- he was our video


coordinator. I think he had a different title
though on campus. I don't know -- I think it
was, like, director of scouting service or
something like that.

RR: Got you.

DK: He was -- you know, kind of


managed different things in the office. I
think he tried to help Kevin Freeman a little
bit with his responsibilities. His main
duties were, you know, cutting film. It might
be project work.
For instance, if I said to Coach Ollie,
hey, I really like the Celtics' offense, he
would go to Dave. Dave, let's, you know, get
some clips of that. If we were playing
Memphis, let's say, he would break down all
their film, defense, offense, label it, tag
it. He'd give it to the entire staff.
He helped manage some of the CARA, RARA
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resource in the office. He also spent a


lot of time with our guys as well. In terms
of mentor, he had a couple guys that he did
that stuff with. So he was in all our
meetings. He was an extension of the coaching
staff.

RR: Okay. Did Dave put anything


together called, like, a video play book or
anything like that; do you remember?

DK: He have would put -- he managed


our plays. He did actual, you know, the
illustration that we would keep on a database.
And then he'd also keep film he would shoot
out to the guys on Hudl, which is like a web
based -- you know, we would email it to guys,
text it to guys, that kind of thing.
He'd also keep video play books broken down
as we added plays, took plays out, keep them
in the office for guys to be able to watch.

RR: Okay. Very good. Do you ever


recall it being said that -- by anybody, you
know, if you -- talking to the players, if you
have any questions about these plays, you need
to go see and go over it with Dave?

DK: Yeah. Coach would send -- say to


Dave, you know, make sure you manage our play
book. You know, and then if guys struggled
with it, you know, he would say to guys, you
know, get in and see Dave. That was usually
done in our film -- not in our film room, in
our conference room.

RR: Uh-huh.

DK: So Dave would just show the plays


to them. To the guys that usually typically
struggled with some plays just so that way
they could have another learning tool.

RR: Do you know, did you ever see one


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DK: No. Because usually -- after


practice, you know, I might grab one or two
guys and shoot with those guys. Usually, in
that time, you know, you've got post-practice,
guys might go eat their meal, get treatment,
whatever. Dave would walk upstairs and show
guys film up in the conference room.

RR: Was he -- and if you weren't


there, I mean, that's okay. But in those --
what exactly would he go over with him; do you
know?

DK: I was never there, so I don't


know.

RR: Okay.

DK: I know he kept -- I've seen the


edits that he would do. We call them edits.

RR: Uh-huh.

DK: And they would just run


through -- so he would have like we call a
title slide. So as the action was happening,
you know, it would -- you know, we have a play
called fist. As the action was happening, it
would say fist at the top.
And then if there was like a point -- a
teaching point, you know, saying where I say
slip this -- you know, there's a ball screen.
Say we're going to slip the ball screen, you
know, it would say fist and then as the player
was going towards the ball screen, it would
say slip.
So that was kind of the teaching points
that would go with the film. I know sometimes
the guys would go in there just to talk to
him. You know, he was -- he's a -- very much
a basketball junkie.

RR: Uh-huh.

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would go in there and talk to him. And you


know, sometimes, I think he was used a lot to
be kind of a different person to communicate
with because they would kind of vent to him
because he wasn't seen as a coach. He was
seen as kind of like an in-between person.

RR: Got you. Do you know or did you


see, did Dave ever give any -- any pointers
while he was -- would show film to them -- to
student athletes, you know, hey, this is where
you need to be or this is where so and so
needs to be, anything like that?

DK: Never. Never. Never in my


presence.

RR: Okay. Do you know, whenever he


would meet with student athletes to go over
the play book and that kind of thing, was that
him just turning it on and letting them watch
it or what exactly was transpiring during
that?

DK: I was never there.

RR: Okay.

DK: But again, the expectation was


that he was playing the film and then I think
the film kind of spoke for itself. Most
times, the players knew what the mistakes they
were making because they would happen in
practice. So then they were just trying to
watch just to get a feel.

RR: Okay. When you said Coach would


say, you know, if you have questions about it,
you know, get with Dave and go over the play
book, was that Coach Ollie who would say that?

DK: Uh-huh.

RR: When would he say that?

DK: Would be during practice, could


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Huddle after practice. And you know, he would


say, like, some of our younger guys or older
guys or this particular player, you need to
get -- you need to get upstairs and watch the
play book.

RR: Okay. But then -- and I'll make


it clear for the record. You were never
sitting in on any of those sessions --

DK: No.

RR: -- with Dave and a student


athlete?

DK: No.

RR: Did you ever see Dave on the


court at any time going over anything with a
student athlete?

DK: No.

RR: Do you know if any student


athletes ever asked Dave to go on the court?

DK: No.

RR: Okay.

DK: No. That wasn't -- that wasn't


his role and that wasn't his thing.

RR: Got you.

DK: I've never seen Dave run, so.

RR: Okay.

JL: You want to expand -- share what


you said to me?

DK: Well, Dave's more -- he's more --


he's not an athlete. You know, he's more --
trying to think of somebody you guys would
know. But he -- I've never seen Dave do

 

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anything athletic. I've never seen him shoot


the ball. So you know, I think he was -- he's
definitely a great basketball mind, but he's
not an athletic type person.

RR: Okay. Fair enough. Tom, do you


have anything?

TH: Yeah. Did you -- would you guys


ever videotape your practices?

DK: Yeah. So I'm not sure who -- you


know, who coordinates it all.

TH: Right.

DK: But most practices were


videotaped. I know in Gampel there's usually
like a student worker that would film it and
then in Werth, I don't know who actually
recorded it. But then we recorded it and we
would download it onto our laptops for us to
be able to watch.
Because usually in preseason, we watched
all our practices. As season goes, not as
much.

TH: Right.

DK: But preseason, we watch a lot.

TH: So I'm not a basketball guy, so I


want to make sure I understand.

DK: Yep.

TH: So my understanding, it sounds


like you all would have like a video play book
of like the play fist and the title fist would
be on the video as it plays and then it might
have the text slip and then it would -- as the
player does what they're supposed to do and so
and that was the correct way to run that play,
fist; is that what that video would represent?

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TH: Okay.

DK: Yes.

TH: So now that makes sense to me.


So the player would watch it to see the
correct way to do it?

DK: Right.

TH: Were there any other times where


you all would show the video to student athletes
where they had done it incorrectly? In
others -- in practice or in a game and were --
you know, would they ever be shown video where
they did it wrong, saying here's you running
fist and he's kind of --

DK: Yeah. I mean, I've -- so you


know, I might -- so I know when Dave was here,
I would say to Dave, okay, let's take these
couple random drills that we do, you know,
kids slipping a screen.

TH: Uh-huh.

DK: So he slips it in practice.


He makes a layup. He gets in the game, he
slips it, he misses the layup. Okay. Let's
show you doing it the right way. Let's show
you doing the right away. And I might show it
to them before the game.

TH: Okay.

DK: And I'll go -- have my laptop and


I'll say, hey, the way they defend, you're
going to be able to slip. You can make this
layup. Here's you doing it right; here's you
doing it wrong. Let's correct it. Now, let's
go get warmed up and get ready to play.
So Dave sometimes would do those things,
just like Tony will do those kind of edits for
us. So they're all different teaching points.
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practice film, on game film, or it could be


showing Kevin Garnet doing it.

TH: Uh-huh. So if like -- if Coach


Ollie would say to the player, you know, you
need to get -- and go up -- go upstairs and
watch the play book with Dave or whatever, was
the expectation that Dave was going to show
them the videos of the correct way to run the
play or would Dave also show them video of
where they may have done it wrong?

DK: So he may put together an edit


just like I was saying --

TH: Oh, okay. All right.

DK: -- of them doing it wrong and


then them doing it right or one of their
teammates doing it right so they can see and
know the difference.

TH: Got you.

DK: Or it may just be just, you know,


seven or eight plays, okay, let's go through
them. You know, and then Dave will come back
and say, hey, this guy had -- you know, he's
got nine questions about this. You need to go
talk to him. You need to go talk to him about
it.

TH: Okay. Were there certain -- so


you've been here since July of 2016.

DK: Uh-huh.

TH: Have there been certain student


athletes that have spent more time with Dave
going over plays than others?

DK: I don't know that there -- you


know, there was a couple kids -- last year, we
had two kids that -- ,
who spent a lot -- they didn't
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going over the plays. They were just kind of


hanging out with him because they weren't
practicing.
So you know, them just kind of standing
there watching practice as the year goes on
gets kind of boring, so they would sit with
Dave and I think those two guys were closer
with him that others, but it was more because
of their situation.
You know, different guys had different
issues with stuff, so we'd send different guys
up there every few days.

TH: Right. So we've learned up in


your office, there's like a room called the
situation room.

DK: Yes.

TH: Is that where Dave has his desk?

DK: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's the


conference room, yep.

TH: Okay. And is that where he would


show them the plays?

DK: Yeah. The room is set up similar


to this. There's a big TV at the back end of
the room. He'd show it on there.

TH: All right. And then do point


guards need to know more about the plays than
any other player; in other words, because --
in other words, do they need to know, like,
all five guys are doing on the court?

DK: You're learning coaching.

TH: I'm learning some stuff.

DK: I think -- it depends on who you


ask. I would say every player needs to know
every player's position.

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DK: A lot of coaches will say the


point guard needs to know every position on
the court.

TH: Okay.

DK: I think if everybody knows


everybody, then we're a little bit better of a
team at that point.

TH: Yeah.

DK: I think it's all situational


circumstance.

TH: Uh-huh.

DK: And the player and the certain


point in his career. And also at the end of
the day, how much he's playing.

TH: I guess where I was going with it


was trying to figure out, like, at UConn, do
the point guards spend more times going over
the plays than others?

DK: Not necessarily because some guys


know it.

TH: Okay. Yeah.

DK: You know, like, if you're the


point guard and you know every play, you don't
have to spend a lot of time, you know,
watching it.

TH: Yeah.

DK: But then, you know, if Russell


struggles, then we've got to send Russell --
spend a little bit more time with him. And
some guys, it's not so much watching it. They
need to actually do it. So we'll dry run it.

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DK: It could be, you know, me, Coach


Moore, Coach Chillious, and a walk on going
through plays just to help the guys get it.
Because some guys learn a different way. And
some guys, you can draw it. It just depends
on the player.

TH: Uh-huh. Okay. All right.


Thanks.

HG: So let me just try to get it in


my mind because -- it seems like we're trying
to draw a fine line, so let me just ask you.
The suggestion is that Dave was coaching the
kids up on plays as opposed to sort of being a
video guy and pulling up plays for them to
watch.
So what was your understanding when people
would suggest go see Dave if you need help
with the plays; were you interpreting that to
mean so he can coach you up or were you
meaning -- did you interpret that to mean so
he can help pull the video for you because
he's a video guy?

DK: So we can watch it -- so guys


could watch it. Because I thought -- I always
thought -- personally, I thought it wasn't
necessarily the best use of time because he
can't teach. So then it was kind of like he
would do that part and then he would go back
and say, okay, this guy doesn't get it.
You've got to spend some more time with him.
But that was Coach's comfort level.
You know, also Dave was -- Dave's really
smart, you know, and he really understood the
offense and what we were doing. And he'd give
Coach ideas, so I think Coach felt comfortable
with that. And also, I think that was some of
Coach's way of giving Dave, you know, more to
do and keep him busy. Because during
practice, he -- and post-practice, there
wasn't a whole lot going on for him.
But a lot of times if guys didn't really
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feel better, right, just knowing that you sat


in the room and watched tape. You're just
like, okay, at least he did that. You know,
you feel better when you go to bed at night.
But then I would go down and say, okay, let's
go walk through the plays.
I mean, we were kind of killing -- we were
eating up a lot of time doing that way, but
that was just kind of the way you do things.

HG: Was Dave a voice on the staff


that the coaches would listen to when it came
to -- or expecting to teach offense or defense
to a player?

DK: No. It was more -- Dave was


more -- so Dave is like a guy -- like, tonight
he'll go watch basketball until midnight. You
know, it's just who he is. So then he'd say,
I was watching the Trailblazers-Clippers game.
There's a great play with two minutes left.
So then he would bring that play and show it
to the staff, diagram it and give it to coach.
Coach -- we'd argue about it for two hours.
It could work; it's not going to work.
We don't have Lebron James; they do. That
kind of deal. And then -- but that's kind of
Dave's way. That's kind of who he is. So I
think that's why he was sometimes viewed as
that. But it was more he was bringing that
stuff to the staff, not the kids.
But you know, at the same time, you know,
he'd go to the kids; hey, did you watch the
Clippers game last night? It was a great
game. That's how he is.

RR: Okay. Anything, Annie?

AF: No.

RR: Okay. All right. Dwayne, I


wanted to ask about -- because you said that
Dave did a little bit with logging recruiting
and that type thing.

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RR: How do -- kind of run me through


when y'all go out recruiting, how do y'all
report that back whenever you get back on
campus?

DK: So sometimes he would note --


because you're in the office or the day
before. Say, I'm going to Philadelphia, you
know, to go see a high school basketball game,
so he would know, so he would log it. But
most times, you'd come in and there was --
there's like these little sheets he created,
so it was name of the player, did you go to
practice or a game, the time, I think how you
got there.
And then he would put it into JumpForward
for us. So he would put that in for me. You
know, and then he'd manage everybody else.
You know, where they went, what they were
doing. And then he'd submit the monthly
reports. I did mention to Annie when all this
first started last year, he was doing those
things and submitting it for us more as a
convenience for everyone.
I had just mentioned to her that I wasn't
fully comfortable with it knowing that he was
submitting for me and signing for me. Once we
started kind of clarifying the process, we
started doing it every month, this year,
signing ourselves.
But I did mention that to her that I wasn't
super comfortable with knowing that he was
submitting everybody for me and I hadn't
really -- I didn't sit there and see what he
was submitting. I just gave him the paper and
trusted he was doing it the right and those
kind of things.
But you know, I -- for the record, you
know, I think Dave was a very trustworthy
person but I just -- you know, knowing this
stuff is going on. So yeah, we would submit
those things and that was kind of the end of
the process.

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that, did you submit that with all your


reimbursement paperwork and stuff like that
or --

DK: Yeah. So we would submit our


reimbursement paperwork to , who was our
graduate manager last year. So you'd submit
the reimbursement paperwork to . You'd
submit the days recruited to Dave.

RR: Okay. And then how has that


process changed?

DK: So this year, is now gone.


She's moved on. We submit the reimbursement
paperwork to . But we personally submit
our recruiting days ourselves. So we -- instead
of doing the sheets, we actually just go onto
the computer and submit our recruiting events
ourselves.

RR: Okay. So you go into


JumpForward --
KO: Uh-huh.

RR: -- and log it in there?

DK: Yeah. And then usually, the day


we submit our monthly logs, we usually have --
I usually have Amanda come over just to make
sure there's no issues submitting it or
whatever.

RR: Got you. And that's how y'all


keep up with how many days or -- you have
left?

DK: Yeah. Yeah. So that's how we,


you know, make sure that we kind of our do our
running count of our 130 days and our seven
days per person that kind of deal.

RR: Got you. Do you know, was there


ever a time -- did you take any local trips --
recruiting trips? I know y'all recruit
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locally for any --

DK: When are we talking about?

RR: Last year.

DK: Last year.

RR: Uh-huh.

DK: When you say local, like, in the


state of Connecticut?

RR: Yeah. Kind of the surrounding


area. I know it's all kind of close around
here.

DK: For me last year, majority of the


kids I was recruiting were out of this state.
I think this year have been more locally a
little bit more. I'm trying to think. The
only local event that I can recall at the
moment was going to -- I think last year, I
went to Hoop Hall, maybe once last year, I
think.

RR: Okay.

DK: I think that would be it.

RR: Was it ever said on the staff --


was there ever any concern about going over
days or going over evals per PSA?

DK: We did have one lengthy


discussion. We communicated with compliance
when Glenn Miller was removed from staff. We
were charting all of our days. We actually
had a meeting before he was removed where we
were trying to figure out how many days we had
left and then trying to -- as the year ends,
you have high school play offs and then you
also have spring evaluation opportunities. So
we were trying to make sure we managed that
right so we had enough days to get out.
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let go, and then he then submitted some days.


So we communicated with compliance asking,
one, because we -- at that point, he had not
communicated, you know, hey, I've got five
days I have to submit. We have 30 days on the
group calendar saying we have 30 days left,
well, he has five to submit, now it takes it
down to 25.
At that time, he did not say anything about
these five days. When he was removed, he
submitted it. Now that cut us down to 25
opportunities or whatever. I don't know the
number -- the exact number.
So we tried to see if, given the
circumstance, could we get a grievance, so to
speak, for those five days or something like
that. That was the only time I recall having,
you know, any kind of issue.

RR: Was it ever said amongst the


staff, hey, you know, if you're going locally
here, you know, you don't have to log that.
That's -- we don't really have to worry about
reimbursement; that's local, that doesn't
really count?

DK: No.

RR: Did that ever come up?

DK: No.

RR: Was there ever a conversation or


did anything ever come up about, you know,
we're getting kind of close on our studies
per kid or overall days and you know, the
local stuff, let's not worry about having to
log that in JumpForward?

DK: No.

RR: Okay. Tom?

TH: No.

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CS: Huh-uh.

RR: Okay. All right. Coach, wanted


to ask about preseason. So going to that
time, do the student athletes have any pickup
games that they play in preseason?

DK: Yeah, they usually -- so when


kids first get here, I think, they play most
Saturdays. We did conditioning and then they
would play pickup and then sometimes they
would play pickup on their own.
But usually, like, the standard day for
them to play was Saturday.

RR: How did -- was it communicated to


them, you know, a time to be at the gym, that
type thing?

DK: I just think historically, it


was -- I don't know how far it goes back, but
we had conditioning -- it was cemetery hills.
They run -- there's like a hill. They run up
the hill a bunch of times. They come back,
change, and then they play pickup. I think
that was something historically that goes back
for a long time.
So it kind of just happened.

RR: Uh-huh. Do you know, was there


ever any sessions where the managers would
send, like, a text and say, you know, meet up
at this time for a pickup game?

DK: Not to my knowledge.

RR: Okay. Have you been in a staff


meeting where Coach Ollie asked about
something called captain's practice; has that
ever come up?

DK: No. He would ask about, you


knee, have guys been playing pickup. You
know, usually, most places where you work, you
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they set it up and they get guys playing. And


you know, they're in the gym and you kind of
hear the balls bouncing or the guys say, like,
hey, freshman played great.
You know, would come up and say, hey,
you know so and so played great the other day,
that kind of thing. That's typically the way
it works. They usually just kind of do it
themselves based off of, you know, Wednesday,
say, yeah, workouts in the morning. If they
weren't too hard, they organized pickup in the
evening or they'd play on the weekends if they
don't have anything going on, that kind of
deal.

RR: Okay. I think you mentioned that


Coach Ollie would ask how is pickup going; did
he ask that in staff meetings sometimes?

DK: Not so much in staff meetings,


but if, like, if we're all around the office,
like, he'd be -- or even if one of the
students come up, you know, he would say,
like, how's it going; did you guys play, that
kind of deal.

RR: How often would he ask that or


when did that come up?

DK: Conversationally. I mean,


occasionally.

RR: And did you say would he ask


student athletes sometimes if they were --

DK: Yeah, he might say to , you


know, how did you shoot in pickup?
would be like, I made every shot. You know,
that kind of deal.

RR: Got you. Did he ever ask them


who was there? You know, kind of how it went?

DK: He might have said -- you know, I


don't recall, but he might have said was there
everybody there, that kind of thing.

 

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RR: Did -- did the managers ever


attend pickup games; do you know?

DK: I think there was always a


manager there and me would do -- like, they
would run the time down. I think they'd
play -- I don't know exactly how they do it,
but I think they'd have the clock and also a
shot clock. So they keep a shot clock going.

RR: Did the manager keep stats during


that; do you know?

DK: Not to my knowledge.

RR: Okay. Did you ever receive a


copy of stats or ever --

DK: No.

RR: -- get any things from any of


those type stats for pickup games or anything?

DK: No.

RR: Did managers ever tell the


coaching staff how things went in pickup or
did that ever happen?

DK: I -- you might have a manager


come upstairs and be like, hey, so and so
dunked on so and so, you know, that kind of
thing.

RR: Got you. Did Coach Ollie ever


ask managers, that you know of, did he ever
ask a manager, hey, how was that pickup game
or who was there, what happened?

DK: Never in my presence.

RR: Okay. And that's fair. Tom?

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RR: Okay. Clint?

CS: I want to go back to the


recruiting days issue.

RR: That's fine. Uh-huh.

CS: I don't know if you brought any


of the hard copy of social media stuff with
you.

RR: Uh-huh.

CS: But I wanted to go to the Rivals,


24/7 Sports from September 22nd, 2016.

RR: Okay. Let me pull that real


quick.

JL: When was that?

CS: September 22nd, 2016. And then


Russell, it's going to be UConn 32 and 33.

RR: Okay. Let me ask you this,


Coach: Were you the recruiting coach for a
perspective student athlete, ?

DK: Yes.

CS: Where did go to high


school?

DK: in
.

CS: Okay. Did you find the --

RR: Yeah. I think Tom's got it over


there. Do you have --

DK: That wouldn't be what you would


consider local, would you?

CS: How far of a drive is it to


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DK: Two hours.

CS: Two hours?

DK: So when you said local, I'm


thinking Connecticut.

RR: Okay.

DK: Or maybe, you know, the edge of


Massachusetts. Locally, I don't consider New
York. So if you're asking about New York, I
mean, yeah, I go to New York a lot.

CS: Okay.

DK: New York and Jersey,


Philadelphia.

JL: I'm sorry, I don't know how fast


you drive. is Long Island?

DK: No. It's in

JL: You can get from here to


in two hours?

DK: Two, 15.

JL: Really?

AF: I can do it.

JL: You think so?

AF: I know so.

JL: Really?

AF: Yes. I drive a lot.

JL: Okay.

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CS: Yeah. So Coach, they pulled some


social media and some just things available on
the web.

DK: Uh-huh.

CS: And on this -- does it have a


Bates number through y'all?

RR: We've numbered it at Document 5.

CS: Okay. So on Document 5, it shows


here on September 22nd, 2016, you visited
Do you recall that visit?

DK: I know I went there. I mean, I


don't know if it was on the 22nd of September,
but I do recall being there.

CS: Okay. Then I'm just trying to


reconcile our recruiting logs, September 22nd,
20 --

TH: What's the Bates stamp?

CS: 32 and 33.

TH: Do you want me to show him these?

CS: Yeah.

TH: There's 32.

DK: Thank you.

RR: For the record, those documents


have been shown to Coach Killings.

CS: You see it goes September 20th,


2016 --

DK: Uh-huh.

CS: -- and then the next -- and


that's on Page 32.



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DK: Uh-huh.

CS: And then you go to Page 33 and


the next date is September 25th. I'm looking
just around that time period to see if there's
any indication of ; I don't see it
on there.
Can you explain?

DK: I mean, I do recall going to the


school.

CS: Uh-huh.

DK: In terms of what was inputted,


again, my -- the only concern I mentioned to
Annie before was I know I give the sheets to
Dave and then at that point, I'm assuming they
go in. I never saw the logs once they're
submitted, but I do remember going to the
school at one point to see the kid. I can't
tell you the exact date.

CS: Do you recall submitting a


reimbursement for this trip?

DK: Almost every time I went to --


out recruiting, you know, I submitted in --
usually, in concept whatever
reimbursements I needed, I would submit the
days recruited.

CS: Okay.

RR: Do you keep a copy of those,


Coach?

DK: I probably can find it. I don't


know. I don't keep them. I don't print them
out, but I can probably find it one way or
another.

RR: Okay.

CS: What do you do to follow up on


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secretary for where's my reimbursement check.


What do you do to follow up on reimbursements?

DK: I just to go to her. So usually


it's kept in -- like, once you log in, your
name, so then it just shows, basically, a
check once it's been submitted and once it's
been approved and once it hits your account.
So usually I just go with her -- you know,
I know I have four or five. You usually use
one or two particular credit cards for
everything, so then I kind of know what's
what.

CS: Okay.

RR: Coach, would you mind looking for


that?

DK: Yeah, for sure.

RR: For that reimbursement


information for that.

DK: So September 22nd.

RR: Are you done with this?

CS: Yeah, thanks. Sorry, if for the


side track.

RR: No.

DK: No. No.

RR: Thanks, Clint. Okay.

TH: Real quick, on Clint's line of


questioning, so if you recall being there
to -- with and if it didn't make
it into JumpForward, did you say you would
have given that to Dave and it would have been
his responsibility to get it into the system?

DK: Last year, yeah. So last year,


if I would have went to see , I



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would -- you know, on the trip, I don't know


if I saw anybody else. But I would write in
where I went. If it was practice, if it was a
game. I would give it to Dave. Dave would
submit everything and he'd submit the monthly
logs.
This year, we're actually doing that as
individuals.

TH: Okay. Did you ever know Dave to


make mistakes or to forget to log stuff?

DK: I never saw it, so I wouldn't --


I wouldn't know. I just trusted he was -- you
know, he was on top of everything.

TH: Okay. All right. Thanks.

DK: Uh-huh.

JL: Tom, you said that he saw


. He doesn't know whether it was
actually on the 22nd per that Rivals report.

TH: Okay. Sorry.

RR: All right.

CS: There may be others; let me look


real fast.

HG: While he's looking through that,


Coach, let me just ask you -- you talked a
little bit about -- we're switching gears,
going back to these preseason scrimmages. I
think you mentioned maybe KO or a coach or two
might have a casual conversation, how did
things go today?
Were those conversations, in your mind,
efforts to get substantive information about
who was doing well?

DK: No. Just, you know, might say to


, like, how is pickup? It was good. I
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HG: Right.

DK: Or you know, you need to really


focus on your conditioning, that kind of
thing.

HG: Would you guys ever have staff


discussions about preseason performance on
those kind of casual comments you were picking
up?

DK: Say that one more time.

HG: Was that ever part of your staff


discussions in the preseason about trying to
share or get nuggets on who was doing well in
preseason pickup games?

DK: No. Just more trying to just,


you know, make sure the kids -- you I mean,
you're trying to police your kids.

HG: Right.

DK: You know, make sure they're doing


the right things and you know, make sure --
you know, if would have said pickup was
great; hasn't been around for the last
three or four days, you know, then you'd start
worrying about . You know, what's he
doing on campus, that kind of stuff.

HG: Right. And so was it really


an evaluator you guys would use --

DK: No, not at all.

HG: -- to like --

DK: Not at all. You know, we use --


practice is the best evaluator for everything.

HG: Sure. And then about maybe a


comment about somebody being a no show, are
you aware of a coach ever punishing a kid or
taking any punitive action toward a kid for
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game --

DK: No.

HG: -- or something?

DK: No. No.

CS: Let me just run through the list


of folks that have been reported here.
, .

DK:

CS: . Did you recruit him?

DK: No.

HG: Does it say he was a --


inaudible.

CS: Not him. Most of these aren't


attributed to anybody.

DK: Yeah. I -- I recruited him at


Temple University, but not at UConn.

CS: ?

DK: ? Oh, yeah, yeah, I know


who you're talking about.

CS: Did you recruit him?

DK: I went and saw him one time when


I was seeing -- in Florida, yeah, I do recall
seeing him.

CS: ; was that what --

DK: Yeah, They're teammates.

CS: -- you saw him with? Okay.


Let's look at, I think, December. So that
was -- let's go to UConn 36 and 37. And then
it's going to be -- I think y'all have got it

 

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labeled seven is the tweet.

RR: For the record, showing Coach


Killings document stamped as No. -- Exhibit 7.

CS: Was UCLA -- do you remember UCLA


being there also?

DK: When I saw those two individuals,


I don't recall anybody there. It was -- they
actually went to a school -- they went to a
which is probably 15 minutes
from 's high school, who is a
here.
So when I saw them, it was on the same time
as seeing . I don't recall UCLA being
there.

CS: Okay. The way I read that, it's


within the past week, so it wasn't necessarily
on the 15th of December.

DK: Uh-huh.

CS: Can you please look at UConn 36


and 37 and see if there's anybody that you saw
on that same recruiting trip?

DK: That would have saw -- that would


have seen -- that would have saw on UCLA?

RR: No.

CS: No. Any prospective student


athletes that you would have visited on that
same --

DK: Oh, yeah. I got you. I got you


now.

TH: Yeah, we're just seeing if


that --

DK: It would have been .


So on the 13th would have been the same
time as this particular trip.

 

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CS: Okay. That makes sense.

DK: So their schools are, you know,


15, 20 minutes apart. These two are younger
players.

TH: But the logging for that, if it


doesn't get into this JumpForward, would you
have given that information to Dave?

DK: Yeah. Because they would have


all been on the same trip.

TH: Okay. But for whatever trip, it


doesn't appear like it got into JumpForward?

DK: Yeah. I -- I'm not sure. I'm


assuming -- so for us -- or for -- the way it
all works, so say I go see , that
counts as one recruiting day.

TH: Uh-huh.

DK: But when I go see these two


individuals at that school, it doesn't change
the amount of days. Now, it changes the
amount of times I can see them.

TH: Yeah. Right.

DK: But it doesn't change -- so maybe


he just put that in because then that
satisfies --

TH: I see.

DK: -- the recruiting days.

TH: Uh-huh.

DK: That makes sense. But I don't


know.

CS: Did you say those kids were in


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DK: These guys were -- so is a


here, so when was a in
high school, these guys were sophomores in
high school.

HG: Okay.

DK: And again, the schools are


probably 20 minutes apart, if that.

TH: Did Dave understand that


distinction, what you just said, that he
needed to also -- he should have recorded the
fact that those were days attributed to those
particular prospects?

DK: Yeah. I can't assume, but yeah.

TH: Yeah.

RR: Does JumpForward keep up with the


seven opportunities per PSA?

DK: Yes. Yes.

RR: Okay. So when Dave would log in


to JumpForward, is different kid's names
here --

DK: Uh-huh.

RR: -- the different PSAs, is it


keeping up and keeping track of how many
opportunities were used for that kid?

DK: Yeah. I've never gotten to the


point where you're -- you know, where you've
exceeded seven. I don't know if there's a big
red sign that goes up or whatever, but yeah,
it does -- it does keep the amount of time you
see a particular kid and then you get a count
down of your days.
Usually, at the top here, it would, you
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RR: Got you. So I know you can't


speak for what Dave knew and didn't know, but
is that presumably why it would ask you on the
information sheet that you turned in to Dave,
a particular kid's name that you saw?

DK: Yes.

RR: To keep up with those


opportunities?

RM: Yeah. Yeah. So it would have


the date, you know, I think the time, the kid,
where, that kind of deal.

CS: Do you know if you would have


seen and on the same day that you
saw ?

DK: ? Yeah, without question.

CS: Okay.

DK: So that probably would have been


on the 13th. So probably saw at this
event and then saw those guys.

CS: All right. Another tweet said


that UConn was watching and
. Were either of those players that you
recruited?

DK: So Glenn Miller recruited .


And then we kind of split up There
was -- I think I saw play one time
individually. But , we kind of -- you
know, by kind of split up.

CS: Did you ever observe


playing?

DK: I think I saw him one time in


high school, I think, last year.

CS: Do you know when that would have


been?



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DK: I don't recall.

CS: This -- this tweet says


. Would you have seen him
around that time or --

DK: I remember late in the year,


Coach Ollie going to see him. I think -- I
think at an end. I mean, I'm not 100 percent
sure. I don't know.

CS: Okay. ?

DK: Yes.

CS: Was he one of yours?

DK: Yes.

CS: All right. Russell, this is 16.


September -- inaudible.

RR: The record reflect, I'm showing


Dwayne Killings Document No. 16.

CS: All right. And then UConn 31.

RR: I'm showing Dwayne Killings


Document No. -- UConn 31.

TH: Got it.

CS: All right. It looks like you


evaluated that day?

DK: Yeah. Uh-huh.

CS: Were they teammates or --

DK: Yeah. They played on the same


high school team.

CS: Okay. So that's just a failure


of putting in two --

DK: Two people, yeah.



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CS: Two people. Got you.

DK: But they're on the same high


school team.

AF: Coach, normally, if you -- so you


go to a gym; you're there to see one or two
specific people, right? So when you come
back, you wouldn't say I evaluated every
single kid on the team, right? You would say
I evaluated --

DK: -- these two individuals.

AF: -- these two individuals?

DK: Yeah.

AF: And then obviously, are you


making sure that would be logged appropriately
for each kid?

DK: Well, so -- like, let’s say I go


to see and then I tell the
high school coach, I really like ;
he's a really good player, right?

AF: Uh-huh.

DK: Then he tweets this out, I mean,


I'm not -- it doesn't mean necessarily, A, I
liked him, B -- I mean, there's been times
I've seen on Twitter I was at a gym and I'm in
my living room, if that makes sense. Because
I can easily say, you're the high school coach
and I can say I'm going to see Russell on --
you know, I'm coming to see Russell on
Wednesday.
Tuesday night, my daughter gets sick; I
can't make it. But you tweeted out before it
happens and I don't show up. I mean, I've
seen that multiple times. But if I go see
and I say, I really like , you
know, and then we start the process, I mean,
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AF: So would you then come back and


log one for too?

DK: I would probably tell Dave, you


know, I saw these two kids. Or you know, I
saw ; let's also put on the
board.

AF: Okay.

DK: You know, we have a recruiting


board that lists most of the kids that we're
really considering and then you know, I'd say
also let's put an evaluation for him. It just
kind of depends.

AF: Yeah.

DK: I mean, sometimes there's kids


that you might like. Or I could go see
Immanuel who I know we really like and Coach
Ollie doesn't like , then, you know, I'm
not necessarily recruiting him, but I'm
watching him every time I see him because
he's on the team if that's makes sense.

AF: Okay.

CS: All right. I'm almost done with


this exercise, Coach.

RM: Yep.

CS: ?

DK: I'm sorry?

CS: ?

DK: I was not the recruiter.

CS: Got you.

RR: Do you know who was the


recruiting coach for ?

DK: I think it was Ricky Moore.



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RR: Okay.

CS: And lastly, another name that I


can't pronounce, --

HG:

CS:

DK: Florida kid?

CS: I have no idea.

HG:

DK: What school? I mean, I recognize


the name, but -- what school?

HG: Not one of your kids?

DK: No. I recognize the name but --

CS: Okay. All right.

TH: Do you know who recruited him for


UConn?

DK: I don't recall.

CS: All right. Thanks. Thanks for


going through that with us.

DK: Yeah. Absolutely.

RR: And Coach, just so -- a question


to follow up on this, this information was
gathered using just the recruiting logs.

DK: Uh-huh.

RR: So the kids that their names were


mentioned were ones where there were other
evaluations or contacts that were logged for
those kids. So if a PSA's name is in the
recruiting log, is it -- I mean, is it safe to
say that they were being recruited by UConn

 

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or --

DK: So I mean, it -- so I would say


to you when you say being recruited by UConn,
it's -- it's a two-part question. Like, I can
say I'm recruiting them, but then the final
word is Coach Ollie. You know, if he doesn't
like them, then we're not recruiting them
anymore.
But at the same time, there's an
expectation if, you know, I really believe in
them and Coach Ollie sees them one time and
the kid has a horrible day, I'm going to hang
with them a little bit. And then Coach Ollie
might see them again in AAU and then at some
point you either pick -- keep it going or you
stop it.
And there's some times where you go to see
kids because called and said, hey, this kid is
the next Michael Jordan, whatever it may be,
and then you see them and you don't like them.
So yeah, you recruited them up to a point.
There's a method to the madness, if you will.
I think every kid is different. Sometimes
you're recruiting a kid because you think --
might go to the NBA. And then
doesn't. And then you stop recruiting
him. It just depends.

RR: Did you feel like if you were


recruiting a kid, then that fell under the
NCAA rules that the opportunities needed to be
logged for individual kids?

DK: Oh, absolutely. Absolutely.

RR: Okay. Anything, Tom? Clint?


Annie?

AF: Huh-uh.

RR: Okay. All right, Coach. I


wanted to ask about an individual by the name
of Derrek Hamilton. Have you ever heard that
name?




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DK: I have heard the name, yes.

RR: Okay. Have you ever met Derrek?

DK: I have not.

RR: Okay. Where did you hear that


name from?

DK: I just -- I know he's -- I don't


know if he's a friend, but I know Coach Ollie
knows him and I know he's in the basketball
world.

RR: Do you know what he does or --

DK: I don't know what he does; I do


not.

RR: Okay. What was the extent of


when you heard that name, if you can think
back. I know that might be a while, but --

DK: I actually heard the name from


some people that work in Georgia. I think he
lives in that area. I think he lives in
Atlanta, I believe.

RR: Uh-huh.

DK: But through conversations about


basketball and kids and all that, Coach Ollie
said that he -- you know, that's a friend of
his or associate or whatever, that's my guy,
that kind of thing.

RR: Okay. Did he say what his


connection with Derrek was, like, what they
did together or anything like that?

DK: No. No.

RR: Okay. Do you know -- have you


ever seen him on campus here?

DK: No.

 

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RR: Have you ever seen him in person


at all?

DK: No.

RR: Okay. Do you know, do any of the


student athletes know him?

DK: I do not know.

RR: Okay. That's fine. Tom?

TH: Do you know whether he worked out


with any UConn student athletes?

DK: Not to my knowledge.

TH: And I know you didn't see him on


UConn's campus, but did you ever hear whether
he was on campus?

DK: I think he had worked out


at one point, but that was before my
time here.

TH: What do you know about that?


Tell me everything you know.

DK: Just that he worked out


when he was getting ready for playing
overseas, NBA -- inaudible -- you know
whatever he was pursuing at that time.

RR: Did you hear that he worked


anybody else other than ?

DK: No.

RR: Out with anybody else?

DK: No.

CS: How do you know about him working


out with ?

DK: was around for a while

 

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when -- so last year and this year.


came around. He's probably one of the few
guys that's come around a little bit because I
believe his mom lives around here somewhere.
And then just in conversations, you know, who
do you work out with? He got, actually, hurt,
I think over the summer.
So who did you train with, that kind of
thing. He'd be like, I trained with this guy
and that guy. And Derrek was one of the
guys. And then you know, he said he really
enjoyed working out with him when he was done
with school. I think it was '15, '16.

CS: Did you say down at school or


done with school?

DK: Done with school. Done with


school.

RR: Yeah.

CS: Any suggestion from that he


had worked out with Derrek while he was still
a student athlete at UConn?

DK: No.

RR: Annie?

AF: I don't have anything, thanks.

RR: Okay. Coach, wanted to ask you


about Carlos Daniel. What was Carlos' role
here at UConn?

DK: He was the strength and


conditioning coach here for a short time.

RR: Okay. Were you here when the


former strength and conditioning coach was
here?

DK: Travis?

RR: Travis.



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DK: Yes.

RR: Okay. Was there anything


different in Carlos and Travis' styles about
how they approached --

DK: Yeah. Carlos was -- Carlos


played basketball. He was a really good
player. And he worked in the NBA as a
strength coach with the Spurs and the
Pelicans. I thought he approached it in a
unique way because most strength coaches kind
of do all their typical warm-ups and kind of
cookie cutter. I think Carlos tried to create
more of a basketball focus kind of warm-up.
So you know, instead of running up and down
the court, running up and down defensive
slides, you know, to relate it to basketball.
I actually remember, Dave, he worked on
warm-up, but he worked on getting over a --
there was like a little cone basically.
So it was sprinting and then big step. And
it mimicked how you would get over a screen.
So I thought he thought outside the box a
little bit. So that was kind of like his --
his kind of different way of approaching it, I
guess.

RR: Tell me about that, were those


kind of mimicking basketball drills or how --
what was your perception of it?

DK: I thought it was mimicking


basketball movements.

RR: Uh-huh.

DK: I don't think they were --


they're not drills that we necessarily do, but
I thought they were mimicking some basketball
movements. I don't want to speak for Annie,
but I believe Carlos spoke with her about kind
of where he could operate. Because I know,
like, sometimes he would have -- as a warm-up,
you know, have the guys take a medicine ball



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and hit it on the backboard and that kind of


mimicked rebounding.
That was part of the warm-up. So again, I
thought everything he tried to do was more
taking, you know, his space and connecting it
more to the basketball world.

RR: Okay. Did he ever do warm ups


and stuff on the court?

DK: Yeah. Like, the drill I just


talked about was on the court. It was all on
the court.

RR: I know you said he used a


medicine ball, did he ever use a basketball
for anything?

DK: No. Huh-uh. Never I that I saw.

RR: Okay. Tom?

TH: Nope.

RR: Okay. Clint.

CS: Huh-uh.

RR: Okay. Coach, were you here


during the time where a staff member named
Danny Griffin was on staff?

DK: Uh-huh.

RR: How long did y'all overlap or --

DK: One season.

RR: Okay.

DK: One season.

RR: Do you know, what was Danny's


position?

DK: Danny was director of player



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development; is that right?

AF: Uh-huh.

RR: What did he do exactly?

DK: Danny, I think he -- he tried to


give guys as much mentorship about life
skills, I think that was kind of where he
tried to hang his hat, on that. Kind of like
a mentor, you know, all around. I thought
also, he tried to get the kids more connected
to campus.
You know, if there was an event on campus,
get them connected to that event. Some
different people were on campus that had a
good influence, try to bring them around those
people.

RR: Got you. Was Danny on campus a


lot or did he have to travel around?

DK: He traveled with us for games.


Outside of that, he was on campus.

RR: Was he from the west coast?

DK: Yes.

RR: He’d have to go back there a lot;


do you know?

DK: He had -- I think his sister died


during the season. So I know he went out
there for a while. And then I think whenever
we had some down time preseason, he would try
to go back to the -- I think he takes great
pride from being from California.

RR: It's a pretty state so. Did


Danny sit in on staff meetings; was he in with
y'all whenever y'all would talk?

DK: Uh-huh. So Danny sat where our


GA, , sits down. We didn't have a GA
before, now we do.



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RR: Okay.

DK: So Danny sat there.

RR: Would Danny ever comment -- y'all


were talking about recruits or different
things. Would he ever make any comments about
a particular one, that type thing?

DK: Danny -- I would say Danny


lives with a -- you know, one or two degree of
separation from people. That's kind of how --
where he lives his world. So if you bring up
a kid, he's right away, oh, that's my friend's
friend's cousin's brother. That kind of deal.
Or he had a great ability to get information.
You know, I heard this kid really likes
blah, blah, blah school. It's kind of like --
and he also always was -- you know, knew about
some kid. There was a kid somewhere that --
under a rock that he knew about.

RR: The kids that he would make


comments on, were those West Coast based PSAs
or were all over?

DK: Majority West Coast, but some of


them were, you know, East Coast kids.

RR: Uh-huh. Did he ever say that he


had talked to a PSA or a recruit?

DK: No. It was always, you know, my


guy told me, you know, this kid. Or my guy
said this kid is really good, that kind of
thing. You know, he does -- he spends a lot
of time on the phone or on Twitter. You know,
he watches highlights on Twitter and he'll
send them to you and that kind of thing.

RR: Was there ever cause for concern


to think, how does he know all of this or
anything like that or give the staff any pause
or --



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DK: No. I thought he just had a


different way of using his idle time and that
was spending it on Twitter and talking on the
phone.

RR: Did -- did Danny ever -- when a


recruit would come on campus, did he ever have
any interaction, like, have to give them a
tour or anything like that?

DK: Yeah. Give them tours sometimes.

RR: Give them tours sometimes?

DK: Yeah.

RR: Would he ever be at practice; did


he ever go to practice?

DK: Yeah. He would be -- he'd be


there some -- it just depended on what was
going on, but he would be sometimes -- most of
the time.

RR: What would he do during practice?

DK: Sit and watch, talk on the phone.

RR: Did Danny ever do anything on the


court?

DK: Oh, no.

RR: No?

DK: Danny doesn't have that -- he's


in the Dave category.

RR: Okay.

DK: He was once a player, but he's


not. He don't have that athleticism or I
don't think he has that knowledge either.

RR: Do you know, did Danny ever go


visit a PSA's high school or was he ever --



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DK: Not to my knowledge.

RR: Make any contact with a PSA?

DK: Maybe if they were on campus.


You know, if we had a kid on campus, but not
outside of that.

RR: Do you know if any coaches knew


that -- or had talked about, was Danny making
visits to PSA's high schools or had a call
with a PSA; was that ever mentioned?

DK: Not to my knowledge.

RR: Okay. Tom?

TH: I don't, I don't think so.

RR: Clint?

CS: Nope.

RR: Okay. Dwayne, do you know an


individual by the name of Boo Willingham?

DK: Yes.

RR: Okay. Who is Boo?

DK: A former player here. And I


mean, I can't speak for them, but I think he
and Kevin are best friends.

RR: What gives you that perception?

DK: I mean, just when you see them


around -- see them together, they have a tight
bond. I know he stays at his house, you know,
sometimes when he's in town.

RR: Does Boo ever come into the


offices or --

DK: I've only seen him -- he comes to

 

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games. He's may have been to one or two


practices in my time here.

RR: And when he'd come to practice,


was he with anybody or --

DK: By himself.

RR: By himself? When you saw him at


games, where was he at?

DK: In the crowd.

RR: Oh, okay. I know you're a bit


busy during games.

DK: Oh, no. No. He --

RR: You've got a few things going on.

DK: Yeah. You notice him in the


crowd.

RR: Where would he sit; do you


remember?

DK: Usually, you know, where Coach


Ollie's family would sit.

RR: Okay. Did you ever see Boo


talking to any recruits or anything during a
game or --

DK: Never, that I noticed.

RR: Okay. Was he sitting next to a


recruit or anything?

DK: Sections are close.

RR: Sections are close?

DK: Yep.

RR: But from your experience, you


never saw him talking to a recruit or




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interacting?

DK: Never that I -- not that I


recall. Not that the it stands out in my
mind.

RR: Did Boo ever talk about any


recruits that y'all had or ask questions?

DK: Yeah, I mean, he definitely -- I


think he's still very much into basketball.

RR: Uh-huh.

DK: I mean, he’s a basketball guy.


He'd ask how's it going, that kind of stuff.
He's definitely -- he watches a lot of
basketball and that kind of thing, follows the
program. Supportive of coach and the program,
obviously so --

RR: Okay. Would he ever ask about a


specific recruit that y'all had or kind of any
high profile recruits or any other kids, see
how things were going or anything like that?

DK: Yeah. Like I said, I mean, he


might say, like, how is it going or you know,
I heard a kid really wants to go to wherever.
You know, that kind of thing.

RR: And when you say how's it going,


you mean about a particular recruit?

DK: Yeah. Like, how -- do we think


we can get the kid, that kind of thing.

RR: Do you remember which kids he


asked about?

DK: Not off the top of my head.


I know he's been at a couple games. And if
there's a recruit at the game, you know, who's
that kid? Oh, you know, whatever. But that's
it.

 

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RR: Got you. Do you know, did he


ever asked about -- were you here whenever
UConn was recruiting ?

DK: Uh-huh.

RR: Do you know, did Boo ever mention


or did anything ever come up about
that?

DK: You know, he'd ask how is it


going with the kid. And I heard he might go
to wherever. Or I heard he's really going to
UConn. He didn't come, but --

RR: Did he ever say that he had


talked to or had any conversations
with him?

DK: Not to my knowledge.

RR: Did he ever give any information


that, you know, he had had any inside
knowledge or knew anything about him or --

DK: He would say, you know, I


heard -- you know, I heard this, I heard that.
You know, typically, kind of recruiting speech
from people from the outside looking in. But
you know, he'd say, you know, my guy said
this, that kind of thing.

RR: Tom?

TH: And so you're not aware of Boo


having any contact with ?

DK: Not to my knowledge.

TH: Okay. How -- there's another


prospect I know UConn recruited, .

DK: Uh-huh.

TH: Did Boo have any relationship


with ?

 

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DK: I wasn't here. But to my


understanding, I think he was his mentor of
some sort.

TH: Uh-huh.

DK: I think Boo -- I believe, I don't


know, for the record. But I believe he lives
in Florida and I know that kid is from
, but I think he mentored him or they
crossed paths when the kid was really young at
some point.

TH: So when UConn recruited ,


that was before you arrived?

DK: Uh-huh.

TH: Okay. So how did you learn all


that information?

DK: Just, you know, when I got here,


I remember was a pretty high profile kid
coming out of high school, but he had a very
decorated past. So I asked what happened.
And then through that conversation, I heard
that name. I didn't know he was until I got
to meet him.

TH: Okay. Thanks.

RR: Clint?

CS: And then just really quick to


close the loop, Coach, when you said that, you
know, Boo might share with you or ask you how
we're doing with the kid or here's what I
heard, did he ever, in any way to your
knowledge offer his services or help in trying
to reach out to a kid or contact a kid on the
staff's behalf?

DK: No.

RR: Annie? Okay. So Coach, wanted



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to ask about going back to . Were you


here when he took his official visit?

DK: Uh-huh.

RR: Do you remember what -- what he


did on his official visit?

DK: So I believe -- if I remember


everything correctly, his brother and sister
came on campus. And Coach Miller took them to
campus -- for a campus tour.

RR: Okay.

DK: The kid was flying in, I believe,


from an event. They did that. We all met and
had a presentation at Coach Ollie's house,
just the staff. And then midway through --
after the presentation was done, then the team
arrived and we had, like, a team dinner, meal
at Coach Ollie's house.
And the families -- you know, they were
with us. And then we had a game, so we took
them -- if I remember correctly, I think Coach
Miller took the brother and sister back to the
hotel, which was the Hyatt. We played at the
XL center. Coach Ollie drove the --
back to the hotel himself so he could get some
one-on-one time. Then we all met, we had
breakfast with the kid in the hotel, and his
family.
And then we had our game. We played
Auburn. He had a couple -- he -- one of his
mentors met us at the game -- came to the game
and was with him. And then they all -- after
the game, they went back home. So it was a --
it was a pretty short visit. It wasn't a very
long, drawn out visit.

RR: Got you. I'm going to take you


back to one thing that you mentioned. The
recruiting presentation at Coach Ollie's
house. What all -- what did that entail or
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DK: Presentation typically is --


tries to give the family and the -- the
student athlete an idea of what his experience
would be like at UConn. Usually, you know,
you set it up by asking the kid, you know,
some questions, the family some questions.
You know, concerns. What they're focusing on,
those kind of things. And then you walk them
through some slides. You know, slides on
player development, style of play, the
university.
For , he was a really high profile
kid. Plans for him to be in college one or
two years. Prior to him coming, there was
this thought, by the kid, would he join the
program and play right away because he had
passed the SAT.
Actually, myself and Glenn Miller had a
conversation with Jody McCall out of your
office once just about -- because it was so
new and we were asking, you know, how does it
all work and then how do we -- what do we do
because we're trying to get this kid qualified
to play right away.

RR: Uh-huh.

DK: He decided he didn't want to do


that, so then we had kind of scenario one, if
he -- I think the scenario one was if he
played right away, what that would look like.
He would start, blah, blah, blah, first game.
Scenario two, he'd red shirt, so you know,
what are with going to do? What are with
going to do strength and conditioning? Here's
how you're going to develop.
Here's how Coach Ollie sees you. Here's
what your summer would look like. And then
here's what you're going to do your -- the
next year. Here's what the team's going to
look like. Here's your role, those kind of
things.

RR: Got you. And you said after the


presentation, the team joined y'all?



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DK: Uh-huh.

RR: Did y'all have a meal or --

DK: Yeah. So -- in the basement of


Coach Ollie's house, he has like an
entertainment, you know, TV, video machines,
that kind of thing and then there's like a
big, long table, so it was food and everybody
kind of got their food as they wanted. It was
right before the holidays, so it was kind of
Christmas themed meal. And we all just kind
of -- I don't remember what we watched. I
don't remember if it was a movie or a game. I
think there was a game on.
We all just kind of hung out. Coach said a
couple words and then we all just hung out,
maybe, for like an hour or so, hour and a
half, that kind of thing.

RR: Got you. Who all was there from


the staff?

DK: Our entire coaching staff, so


myself, Coach Moore, Coach Miller, Coach
Ollie, Dave Sevush, Kevin Freeman, Danny
Griffin. I think Travis was there, our
strength coach. James, our trainer, might
have been there. I think that was pretty much
everybody. And then all the players and
managers.

RR: Do you remember specifically that


the full coaching staff was there?

DK: Yeah. Yes.

RR: Okay. Was there ever a point in


the evening that Coach Ollie and had a
moment they talked privately or --

DK: Uh-huh.

RR: When was that?

DK: I don't remember. I don't



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remember exactly. Probably when we were


downstairs. I remember, you know, being
downstairs and myself and Coach Moore were
talking to the brother and the sister.
They're a little younger, so just getting to
know them. That's the first time we had been
around them.
So it was probably the middle -- probably
once everybody started eating, probably at
that point.

RR: Where did -- where were they


talking or where was that?

DK: A few rooms downstairs. I'm not


sure.

RR: Did they go into a side room


or something or --

DK: I remember they were -- they were


separate from the group. I don't know where
they -- they might have went down the hallway.
I'm not sure.

RR: Okay. Do you remember, did --


did ever have a chance to talk with
former UConn student athletes?

DK: Not to my knowledge.

RR: Okay.

DK: He may have talked to -- I think


Boo was at that game. He may have, you know,
interacted with him at that game, but I don't
know.

RR: Do you know that night, did he


have a call with a couple of former players;
did you hear that or have any knowledge of
that?

DK: Not to my knowledge.

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about in staff meeting and the weeks leading


up to that or any time like that, hey, you
know, it'd be great if we could set up a time
for to talk to a couple of our former
players, something like that?

DK: Talked about -- because it was


the holidays, you know, who would be at the
games.

RR: Uh-huh.

DK: You know, and then who should he


talk to. Should he talk to our athletic
director? You know, who would be there, that
kind of thing. And what we could do. I do
recall that, but I don't recall trying to set
up phone calls or anything.

RR: Was it ever -- did you ever hear


that he did talk to some former players on the
phone or --

DK: There were -- I know since this


is all -- I know there was a conversation
about if he had talked to Ray Allen, I
believe.

RR: When you say since this, what do


you mean?

DK: So since all this, you know, has


come up, you know, the conversation about if he
had talked to Ray Allen, you know, during the
visit.

RR: Okay. How did you hear about


that, though?

DK: Just through conversation.

RR: With who?

DK: So since everything started, I


believe when we were discussing -- I'm trying
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don't remember who brought it up, but I know


it came up that if he had talked to Ray Allen
on his visit.

RR: Okay. Is this a conversation


with the coaching staff or who is this a
conversation with that this came up?

DK: I'm trying to think because this


is when -- I'm trying to think of when,
actually, the conversation happened. I can't
recall when the conversation happened, but I
do remember somebody saying if he had talked
to Ray Allen when he was on his visit.

RR: Is that -- I'm just trying to


clarify there.

DK: Uh-huh.

RR: So is that a conversation that


the coaching staff or who were you talking to
when that --

DK: So I think when the conversation


came up, I think it was with Dave. I think he
had said that, you know, he had heard that if
this conversation had come up -- or if
and Ray Allen had a conversation of some sort
on his visit.

RR: Was the implication that that was


something that we were looking into or --

DK: No. This was before. This was


before you guys had started your process.

RR: Oh, okay.

DK: Or before you guys had, at least,


met with him.

RR: Okay. So when exactly did that


conversation, you think, happen?

DK: I guess before the -- I don't

 

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know. It was probably around the holidays. I


mean, since everything started, I think, given
all the kind of elements, you know, between
the media and gossip and all that. I think
that's where everything started. Because
there's been a lot of assumptions and people
throwing different stuff out there and this
person said that person, that kind of thing.

RR: Okay. In that conversation with


Dave, did he just mention that that was --
what was the context, I guess?

DK: Oh, just kind of throwing --


like, throwing stuff on the wall to see
what -- you know, what do you think they're
coming about, what's going on, da, da, da. I
heard this. This person said that, you know,
that kind of deal.

RR: And is that something that Dave


mentioned that he had heard or something like
that that --

DK: Yeah. Just, you know, whatever.


You know, like I had heard this and blah,
blah, blah.

RR: Okay. And is that the first time


that you had heard that might have
talked to Ray Allen?

DK: Yes.

RR: Did that name ever come up in


staff meeting? Like, it'd be great if we
could find a way for to talk to Ray
Allen in some way or --

DK: We had -- so my first summer,


there was Coach Calhoun's event that he does
and there was a bunch of footage that we
actually had gotten from former players, you
know, talking about the program and that kind
of thing. So we had talked about using some
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And there's actually some stuff that's out


there with Ray Allen and Coach Ollie, with him
talking about UConn. So we had talked about
putting some videos together to present to
, but we ended up not doing it because
we thought it was going to be -- to get the
message across, that it was too long. So we
talked about using stuff like that to get kind
of former player's voices.
You know, talking about the program.

RR: And you said there was a


conversation about who he could meet, possibly
at a game or something like that?

DK: Uh-huh.

RR: Was there ever any conversation


about Ray Allen specifically or --

DK: No. Just different people.


Should he meet the president? Would the kid
really -- would his family gravitate to that
message? Should he meet David? Would the
family gravitate -- you know, because it's
kind of that kind of thing. Those kinds of
discussions.

RR: Okay. Tom?

TH: Yeah. So it sounds like when you


said -- let me see if I got this right. You
can correct it. That Dave Sevush, you had a
conversation with him around the holidays of
2017 in which he brought up the possibility
that maybe this is -- there's an issue about
whether spoke with Ray Allen.
Is that about how -- is that correct? Did
I get that right?

DK: Yeah. Because we were -- he


was kind of, you know, spit balling -- we were
kind of spit balling about this was all about
when everything -- because that was -- it was
not long after, you know, we first were
informed --

 

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TH: Right.

DK: -- from our athletic director


that this process was going to start.

TH: Okay. Was Dave -- he was no


longer on the UConn staff?

DK: He was no longer on the staff.

TH: So would this have been a phone


conversation?

DK: Yes.

TH: Okay. And it's just something


Dave picked up along the way somewhere?

DK: I think I actually mentioned to


him, you know, we're going to be going through
a process and then, you know, just kind of
speaking as friends.

TH: Okay. Did --

RR: Sorry, Tom. Did Dave mention


where he heard that or how he --

DK: No.

RR: Okay.

DK: No. I think, you know, as an


institution, I think there's a lot of people
that spend a lot of time here, so it's very --
kind of what happens at 12:00, everybody knows
about it at 5:00, that kind of place.

RR: Sorry, Tom.

TH: So you don't know whether


spoke with Ray Allen by phone at Kevin Ollie's
house on the official visit; is that correct
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DK: I do not.

TH: Okay. And do you know whether


spoke with any other former UConn
player by phone during that official visit?

DK: I do not.

TH: Okay. And in the lead up to


's official visit, was there any
discussion among the coaches about trying to
demonstrate to the brotherhood that
exists at UConn?

DK: Yeah. That's a big kind of


pillar in Coach Ollie's program. You know,
the brotherhood. You know, kind of -- and I
think it comes from that event that I talked
about. You know, when you see everybody there
at one time, it's pretty impressive. So
that's something he tries to -- a message he
tries to carry out in the recruiting process.

TH: Does Coach Ollie try to find ways


to demonstrate that brotherhood to prospects?

DK: We've talked about some different


ways, doing some different events. You know,
more so for the players that are here.

TH: Uh-huh.

DK: Trying to get some of the former


players back on campus in the off season to be
around our guys. And then I think a lot of
times that we talk about was trying to do a
better job illustrating that on social media,
those kind of things. So push that message
and then you have some content for your
presentations and those things.

TH: Uh-huh. And so have you -- you


were alerted at some point in 2017 that the
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DK: Uh-huh.

TH: Have you had other discussions


with the UConn coaches or former staff persons
about the developments of the NCAA's
investigation?

DK: Just from Coach Ollie, like, you


know the process when Annie's come around
or, you know, we've had locker room
discussions about what's in the paper.

TH: Uh-huh.

DK: You know, that kind of thing.


You know, can you believe this -- that got in
the paper or this was said or it was put out
in this context, that kind of thing. Or how
it got out there more so.

TH: Right.

DK: You know, us trying to play


investigators ourselves, you know, trying to
figure that out.

TH: Have people who have been


interviewed during the course of the
investigation reached out to all, the coaching
staff, to tell you what's been -- what's being
investigated?

DK: No. I talked to Dave --

TH: Uh-huh.

DK: -- you know, before and then


when Dave went through his process, he said
that he was told, you know, not to discuss the
process, that kind of thing.

TH: Did Dave share with you any


additional details about what he was
interviewed about?

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a couple people that actually came there,


which he was surprised and you know -- and
that -- he was in New York.

TH: But no details about what was


talked about?

DK: No.

TH: Okay.

RR: Sorry. Dwayne, just to follow


up, you said the night of 's other
official visit, that you and Coach Moore were
talking to his brother and sister. And that
you said Coach Ollie had kind of a private
conversation or went off to a room with
; is that correct?

DK: No. So he -- so like, it's a big


open room, there's a TV on the wall, there's a
big couch. So I just remember sitting -- it's
like a -- almost like a seat. So his sister
and brother were sitting towards the end; me
and Coach Moore were talking. And I just
remember seeing and Coach Ollie, like,
kind of behind us. And there's like --
there's a long hallway. There's some rooms.
I do remember seeing them off there, but I
wasn't paying attention to them.

RR: So they were just kind of off to


themselves?

DK: Uh-huh.

RR: How long would you say that they


were kind of back there?

DK: I don't recall. I remember -- I


just remember that moment.

RR: Okay. Sorry. Clint?

CS: No.

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about an by the name of Munch


Williams.

DK: Uh-huh.

RR: Do you know Munch?

DK: Yes.

RR: How do you know Munch?

DK: He is the

RR: Do you have any current student


athletes that played for him?

DK: We have two. We have


and

RR: Okay. Does Munch -- has he been


on campus to check on them or --

DK: He comes up to see those guys.

RR: Does he come to practice or --

DK: He's been once or twice to watch


practice, but most times -- usually, he -- you
know, he does a good job about seeing his guys
in the area. So stopping through Connecticut,
seeing high school kids and then he'll stop by
here and see his guys -- his college guys.

RR: Got you. Do you know, does he


know Coach Ollie; do they talk?

DK: Yeah, he definitely knows him.


And I know they do communicate.

RR: Would Munch -- does he call some


of y'all assistant coaches or does he check in
on the guys; how exactly does he do that?

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know, most times in the business, you


communicate after games. You know, a kid
played great, you usually get a text. Kid
played bad, you usually get a phone call.
But yeah, I mean, he and I, I would say,
are friends. So I talk to him a little bit --
you know, a little bit more. Not just about
our players, but just what's going on in life.
You know, that kind of thing.
So I have a 35 minute commute, so usually,
I use that time to make calls on the way in or
on the way out. So I'll talk to him, you
know, once or twice a week. Check in see
what's going on. Because you're not just
talking about those two here. You're talking
about the players in his program too.

RR: Has it ever been mentioned


that -- that Munch might be getting something
to kind of encourage his players that he has
to come here to UConn?

DK: No.

RR: Have you ever heard anything like


that?

DK: No.

RR: Do you know, as far as kind of


just AAU coaches in general, I mean, y'all
have to talk to them, correct?

DK: Uh-huh.

RR: I mean, because you're recruiting


some of their players; is that correct?

DK: Uh-huh.

RR: Yes? Sorry, is that a yes?

DK: Yes. Yes. Sorry.

RR: Do you go to AAU events --

DK: Yes.



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RR: -- that type thing?

DK: Yes.

RR: When are those normally?

DK: In April and July. The ones that


we can go to.

RR: Uh-huh.

DK: They're kind of year round.


Well, they're through the spring and the
summer. But the time we can go is April and
July.

RR: Got you. During those, have the


coaching staff ever taken an AAU coach to
dinner to get to know him better or anything
like that?

DK: No. No. You might see them in a


hotel because you're staying in the same
hotel, but not -- you know, crossing paths
with them outside the events.

RR: Has it ever been talked about


amongst the staff or encouraged on the staff
that, you know, hey, you ought to take that
coach -- that AAU coach to dinner, buy him a
drink or something, get to know him better,
anything like that?

DK: No. Coach talked about, you


know, maintaining or developing relationships.
This is a relationship-based business, but
that's usually what he talks about.

RR: Was there ever any talk about


providing dinner, drinks, anything like that
for an AAU coach?

DK: No. Just, you know, he's always,


like I said, we need to get out, you know,
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and try to get them to come to games, spend


time with them, get to know them more. Help
them know more about our program, about Coach,
that kind of thing.

RR: Do you know, is there any other


assistant coaches that -- that took that to
mean take them to dinner, buy a drink; have
you ever seen that?

DK: I don't think so.

RR: Okay. Tom?

TH: Uh-huh.

RR: Annie? Okay. You're almost


done, Coach, sorry.

DK: You're good. You're good.

RR: Just give you a time status.


Want to quickly, briefly talk about
.

DK: Okay.

RR: He's a current student athlete


here?

DK: Uh-huh.

RR: That's a yes?

DK: Yes.

RR: Okay.

DK: Sorry.

RR: Who was his recruiting coach?

DK: I was not here. But to my


knowledge --

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DK: -- it was Ricky Moore.

RR: Okay. Do you know, has it ever


been -- well, let me say this first: Was --
was a pretty highly ranked recruit;
do you remember?

DK: Yeah. He kind of skyrocketed


late.

RR: Okay.

DK: He wasn't necessarily going --


when I say late, so this time his junior year
in high school.

RR: Uh-huh.

DK: He was a well-respected player,


but as time went on through the summer and all
that, he shot off the charts. He ended up a
McDonald's All-American.

RR: Got you. Got better as the time


went on?

DK: Yep.

RR: Has it ever been mentioned


since -- that you've heard that the team felt
that got something to commit to
UConn?

DK: No, not to -- no, never


communicated to me.

RR: Okay. Have you ever heard any


chatter or any rumors or any talk about that?

DK: No.

RR: To your knowledge, did


get any payment or anything of value to come
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DK: No.

RR: Did his family or friends, were


they offered anything for him to come to UConn
no.

DK: Not to my knowledge.

RR: Okay. Have you ever heard that


amongst the players or the staff; has that
ever come up at all?

DK: No.

RR: Anything like that? Tom? Clint?


Okay. Coach, just want to talk about official
visits.

DK: Uh-huh.

RR: And unofficial visits.

DK: Uh-huh.

RR: So visits in general.

DK: Uh-huh.

RR: When PSAs come for a visit, do


they -- sometimes do they have an opportunity
to workout with the team or to play pickup or
something like that?

DK: When you said visit, do you mean


official or unofficial or both?

RR: Either, uh-huh.

DK: Yeah. Sometimes, you know, the


guys will play. Like, I know when was
coming, sometimes -- so is
with on our team.

RR: Uh-huh.

DK: So sometimes he'd come up, you



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know, from his prep school, ,


like a half hour. So he'd come up with his
some of his teammates and play pickup.
Sometimes I don't know if he considered --
well, I don't know if that was necessarily an
official visit -- unofficial visit, I should
say because sometimes we weren't even here.
You know, he would just come up and play
and go back to his -- to his school. So yeah,
they would play. And then sometimes on
official visits, I'd say, since my time here,
half the guys will play pickup, half guys will
not.

RR: Okay. Was there an opportunity


for them, if they didn't have gear, that they
could get some workout gear or something to be
able to work out and play pickup?

DK: On official visits, we usually --


you know, the guys would wear their practice
gear.

RR: Uh-huh.

DK: So we'd, you know, give them


practice gear to wear and then we collect it
back when they were done.

RR: So what was that process like?


Who did they get that from; who did they have
to turn that back into?

DK: Chris, our equipment manager, you


know, handles all the gear. I -- I think
sometimes it was a manager. Sometimes it
might be our director of operations. Just
kind of one of those things that kind of
happens as it goes because usually -- I mean,
the assistants and our head coach are kind of
managing the family and the kid.

RR: Uh-huh.

DK: So you kind of know, you know,


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downstairs. A manager will go grab it, hand


it to the kid, tell him where to go change and
then when he's done, just tell him he can go
take a shower and then get it back.

RR: So it wasn't the coaches actually


the ones issuing or receiving it back; was it
more the manager's responsibility?

DK: Managers are or our director of


operations. I think sometimes -- I think
there was -- I think there's been times where
I think I've -- it's happened that -- it just
kind of -- whoever kind of -- depending on the
moment.

RR: Uh-huh.

DK: Because you know, sometimes


you're engaged with the mom and the dad and
you're about to go get it and somebody says,
okay, I'll go grab it, that kind of thing.
You work together on it. But we -- on the
unofficial visits, they sign -- you know, they
have their -- I'm sorry, thorough official
visits, they have their paperwork.

RR: Uh-huh.

DK: And it details, you know, when --


if they've gotten gear, that it was returned,
that they didn't get anything, that kind of
thing. So usually when they get the gear --
when they give the gear back is usually when
we try to remember to have them sign that form
because then it's all kind of come to a
complete process.

RR: Okay. And that was my next


question was was there a checklist or
something that they had to sign off on?

DK: There's a form. So usually,


our -- Coach Ollie's assistant, Larib, will --
she has the form. She usually is pretty
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reminding us to get it filled out and then


we'll get it to her and she usually gets it
back to compliance.

RR: Okay. So would she give you a


form for every kid that came on an official
visit and you would have them fill it out if
they did receive stuff or how did that
normally work?

DK: Oh, every kid for an official


visit had to fill out these forms.

RR: Okay.

DK: And if they didn't, we couldn't


get our reimbursement, so it was all tied in.

RR: Okay. So if a kid did kind of


check out gear for an official visit to be
able the do -- to play pickup and that type
thing, who would -- would the coaches be the
ones to actually have them sign the form if
they got the stuff back or how did that work?

DK: Yeah. So usually, whoever was


the lead on the kid would make sure the form
is signed, so excuse me, if Kevin Freeman, you
know, gave him the gear, let's say, then you
know, you go over, Kev, did you get the gear
back? Yeah. Okay. Send them upstairs.
Because you've got to come back up to come
sign it and then we all walk to go do whatever
we're doing next.
Or -- you know, if I would have did it
myself, then I would tell them, you know, I
need the gear back. All right, sign. That
kind of thing.

RR: Okay. So it's kind of like a


verbal check in to whoever they gave it back
to see if they got it back?

DK: Yeah. Yeah. We all kind of, you


know, work together on it. Just because you
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process, that kind of thing.

RR: Got you. Is there ever a time on


official or unofficial visits, do PSAs watch
practice or anything like that?

DK: It depends. Every visit was


different.

RR: Uh-huh.

DK: But I'd say 70 percent of them,


they watch practice.

RR: On unofficials and official?

DK: More officials.

RR: Uh-huh.

DK: You know, usually, you try to


work a practice into it so that way they can
see, you know, the team actually work and see
how we interact with the kids. Unofficials, I
mean, just usually, you're kind of at the
mercy of the family. Like, when can they get
on campus. So whatever kind of works for
them. So if it happens to be they catch a
front end, back end of practice, great. If
not, you just work around it.

RR: Uh-huh. Has that -- and since


you've been here, have there been times on
unofficial visit where it has worked in where
the PSA's been able to watch a practice?

DK: Unofficial or official?

RR: On unofficial.

DK: Most times, on an unofficial,


they're here preseason in the fall.

RR: Uh-huh.

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season, high school kids are in their season,


so it's almost impossible, but usually on the
weekend and preseason, you get some kids that
come up or Columbus Day, you might get some
guys come on campus and watch practice.
And then postseason with, you know, spring
breaks and stuff like that, kids might come up
and see a -- you know, a spring workout, that
kind of thing.

RR: Uh-huh.

DK: More -- I'd say it's more the


fall and spring workouts than it is actual
practice. Because once the year starts,
everybody is playing, whether it's high school
or college.

RR: Okay. Does the team have a


catered meal or anything after practice or how
does that --

DK: Most days, there's a meal, in the


back part of the facility.

RR: And is that in the Werth center?

DK: Yes.

RR: Okay. Would PSAs ever go up


there with the team -- follow the team up
there and eat; do you know?

DK: Official visits, yes.

RR: Official visits they would?

DK: Yep.

RR: Do you know any time on an


unofficial visit if they ever went up there
with the team?

DK: They didn't eat if they did. We


tell them, you know, you're not allowed to
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most times -- I can't recall a time on an


unofficial, to my memory, that we had a kid
come up for a practice and then we actually
ate. Because sometimes in the spring and the
fall too, we don't have -- sometimes we don't
have a post workout meal. Sometimes it just
didn't work out or something like that.
But I -- we usually always instruct them or
we'll just avoid it because it's kind of
easier not to deal with it if you just don't
take them up there.

RR: Was that ever talked about or --

DK: We just say, you know, after


workouts for an unofficial visit, you know,
let's have them hang out down here and then
that way by the time the kids are done, then we can go
do a campus tour or whatever it may be just
because it's a lot easier that way.

RR: Do you know if all the coaches


were vigilant on that or --

DK: In my presence, yes.

RR: Okay. Tom?

TH: Nope.

RR: Clint? Annie? Okay. All right,


Coach, just have a last few couple questions
here. And it's just about compliance.

DK: You're good.

RR: If you could, just walk me


through what kind of rules education you
receive and what type of things y'all do as
far as that.

DK: So by have a monthly meeting.

RR: Uh-huh.

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We've since hired another member of our


compliance staff, Eric. Eric will come over
and just pop in and talk about some, you know,
hot topics. I think during my time at Temple
University, I had a really close working
relationship with compliance there, so I try
to continue it here.
So you know, if I have a question or not
100 percent sure or clear, I'll just call or
text because I think it's just easier to get
some clarity that way.
We take an annual test. I think the
compliance office, you know, provides as much
information to include emails, you know,
occasionally about new rules, things like that
coming up. I think there's -- I think they
try to keep us as informed as possible. And
then personally, you know, I try to stop by
and just check in and make sure we have a
good, easy, you know, communication flow.

RR: Got you. So you feel it's


pretty -- you feel comfortable reaching out to
compliance if you have questions?

DK: Yeah, if I have questions.

RR: And rules that y'all cover, it


covers recruiting and that type of thing?

DK: Yeah, recruiting, CARA, RARA


logs. Like I mentioned, new legislation
coming up. Any topics that actually directly
impact our team. You know, we have a kid that
transferred in after being at another school
in the middle of the summer. So kind of
communicating about that issue; what does it
look like? What can he do? What can't he?
When can he start classes? We had the appeal
process going, so just all that stuff.

RR: Got you. Did -- Coach Ollie, did


he ever talk about compliance; what did he say
as far as like rules education, that type
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DK: He just kind of reacted to the


meeting that we had coming up. Typically,
in your staff meetings, he would, you know,
say, do we have any compliance issues or
anything we need to discuss? That's kind of
how -- he'd try to bring it up every meeting.
But now, compliance wasn't there. That was
just us. But if something came of it, one of
us would come across the street or call or
they'd stop by. Most of the -- the hot topics
were addressed in most compliance meetings
that we would have once a month.

RR: Got you. Did he ever encourage


y'all to reach out to compliance if you had
questions, things like that?

DK: Yeah. Yeah. For sure. For


sure. I mean, he made a point to do that a
lot in the summer. You know, going into the
new academic year because we had some staff
change over and stuff like that.

RR: All right. Tom?

TH: Is there anything else Coach


Ollie did to promote compliance and monitor
his staff to ensure compliance?

DK: Outside of everything I just


mentioned?

TH: Uh-huh.

DK: I don't -- nothing jumps off the


top of my -- top of my --

TH: Did you all -- as a program, have


you -- while you've been here, have you ever
self-reported, like a level three violation to
compliance? Ever the coaches ever come to --
have you ever --

DK: Yes.

TH: Okay.




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DK: There was -- I think Coach Ollie


was shooting with . I don't know
what level that was.

AF: Three. Yeah. We reported it as


a three.

DK: Yeah. Okay.

AF: Uh-huh.

TH: Who -- did Coach Ollie turn that


one in?

DK: I think the flow communication


was it was found on Twitter; it was
communicated to Coach Ollie and then I know
they had a -- I don't know what the
conversation was.

TH: Okay.

RM: But then I know we self-reported.

TH: Okay. all right. Thanks.

RR: Clint, anything? Anything,


Annie?

AF: I don't have anything else,


thanks.

RR: All right. Dwayne, thank you for


your time.

DK: Thank you.

RR: We really appreciate. So I just


have a couple last things to go over. It's
just about confidentiality.

DK: Yep.

RR: Okay. And then you'll be good to


go. So before I do that, do you have any
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DK: So for the reimbursement that you


asked about --

RR: Uh-huh.

DK: -- so I should get that stuff to


Annie?

RR: Yeah.

CS: Yeah. Give it to Annie and then


we'll --

AF: Yep.

DK: Okay. So I'll go through that


stuff.

RR: Yes, sir. That'll work out well.


Do you have anything you want to add or
clarify to what we talked about today, Dwayne?

DK: I don't think so.

RR: Okay. All right. Then last


thing I need to tell you is that NCAA
legislation requires that you help protect the
integrity of this investigation; therefore, as
the investigation continues, we ask that
you're not permitted to speak with others
about what we discussed today or any
information related to this investigation.
Except that you may speak with your
personal legal counsel and others present in
the room. Failure to protect the integrity of
this investigation could result in an
allegation that you violated the principles of
ethical conduct and/or the cooperative
principle; do you understand those statements?

DK: Yes.

RR: Okay. At some point after the


NCAA completes its investigation someone
involved as a party in this case or their
attorney, legal counsel, or representative may




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request to interview you about matters related


to this case and we encourage to agree to
speak with them just as you've agreed to speak
with us.
This doesn't, however, include any
representatives of the media. So we understand
that's a bit confusing sometimes. If
anyone -- and we're not saying they will reach
out to interview. If they do, please speak
with your counsel who can get in contact with
us or talk with Annie and we can -- we can
help you with that, okay?
So do you have any final questions for me?

DK: So how long will this process


take to get wrapped up?

TH: It's hard to -- it's always hard


to say. We're working collaboratively. We
think within a few weeks, you know, we might
have a -- may be in a spot that we could talk
with the university about where this is going
to go.

DK: Okay.

TH: If anywhere.

DK: And if there is any, you know,


violations with certain parties or anything
like that --

TH: Sure.

DK: -- is there like a document or


anything that you get that says there's
nothing --

TH: Oh, you mean whether there's a


closure document?

DK: Well, I mean, so the NCAA process


starts, it goes on ESPN, but then once it gets
closed, it never goes on ESPN that nothing was
found. So like, is it -- how do you know that
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TH: Yeah. So if we were to close it


and there's no violations, we'll communicate
that to the university and the university can
either ask us to do it verbally or in writing.
So we could do it in writing or verbally. And
so for sure, the university will be informed
at that point.
Now, whether -- you know, we don't -- we're
not allowed to make public comments.

DK: Uh-huh. I understand.

TH: If there were allegations, that


would be different. We would, again,
communicate with the university on that. If
an involved individual was in play, we would
talk directly with that person as well. So
they would at least be tracking what they're
dealing with.

DK: Got it. Okay.

RR: Okay.

JL: You're going to provide us with


the transcript during this and we'll sign
confidentiality -- we'll commit to
confidentiality. During this you referred to
several exhibits…

TH: Uh-huh.

JL: Will they be part of the


transcript so we know what's being referenced?
I mean, I took notes --

TH: Yeah.

JL: -- but will we have access to


that?

TH: We can talk about that. So some


of the visits came from the university. The
recruiting JumpForward records. Some of it
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can I get back to you on that one?

JL: Sure.

TH: Because I would think university


records, yes. I don't see any issue with
that, myself. And publicly accessible
documents -- you know, social media things, we
could probably talk about that too.

HG: I would think.

TH: Yeah.

JL: Just so that we have a


complete --

TH: Yeah. No. That's fair.

RR: Uh-huh.

TH: I understand.

JL: From beginning to end.

TH: Yeah. Yeah. That makes sense.

JL: Yeah.

TH: We'll try to coordinate that.

JL: Okay. All right. Well, you know


how to reach me.

TH: Uh-huh.

RR: All right. Then I'll note for


the record the interview concluded at
12:19 p.m. Eastern Time. Thanks, Dwayne.

DK: Thanks a lot.

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INTERVIEW OF
UNIVERSITY OF CONNECTICUT
FEBRUARY 26, 2018

RR: All right. So I'll note that it


is 12:01 p.m. Eastern Time, and it is Monday,
February 26th, 2018. I'm here at the University of
Connecticut. And for the purpose of voice
identification, I would like to ask each person in
the room to state their name and title, and,
we'll start with you, okay?

AS: Anthony Spinella, attorney for

CS: Clint Speegle, outside counsel


for the University of Connecticut.

HG: Henry Gimenez, outside counsel


for the university.

RB: Attorney Ryan Berry, attorney for

AF: Annie Fiorvanti, associate AD for


compliance at UConn.

TH: Tom Hosty. I'm one of the NCAA


directors of enforcement.

RR: And I'm Russell Register, one of


the assistant directors of enforcement with the NCAA.
And so just want to note this
interview is being recorded, but before starting the
recording, I asked if it was okay if we record
today, and he said it was; is that correct,

Yes.

RR: Okay. And I also want to note on


the record that we have a verbal agreement with the
institution that they keep their recording
confidential pursuant to Division I Bylaw 19.5.8 and

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not release that to third parties; is that correct,
Clint?

CS: Yes, sir, that's correct?

RR: Okay. All right. So prior to


going on the record, you received a form entitled the
NCAA interview notice form. Did you have a chance to
read that form?

Yes.

RR: Okay. Do you understand that the


purpose of this interview is to determine whether you
have any knowledge of or involvement in any
violations of NCAA legislation?

Yes.

RR: Okay. Do you understand that you


may be represented by personal legal counsel during
this interview, and you've chosen to do so?

Yeah.

RR: Okay. Do you understand that


NCAA Bylaw 10.1 obligates you to provide truthful and
complete information in this interview?

Yes.

RR: That's a yes?

Yes.

RR: Sorry. Do you understand that if


it is ever determined that you've provided false or
misleading information or withheld information in
this interview, then this could constitute a
violation of the NCAA principles of ethical conduct
and could impact your eligibility as a student
athlete?

Yeah.

RR: Okay. That's a yes?

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Yeah.

RR: Sorry. Yeah, it has to --

Oh, okay.

RR: Just so it's clear.

Yeah. My bad.

RR: Okay. Do you understand that


information provided during this interview may be
shared with other NCAA departments?

Yes.

RR: Okay. And do you have any


questions regarding any part of the interview notice
form?

No.

RR: Okay. And did you sign and date


that form?

Yes.

RR: Okay. Perfect. Thank you for


bearing with me. It's just kind of -- some of the
stuff you had already gone over, but just wanted to
make sure that you agree to it on the record.
So all righty, so what is a
good phone number for you?

RR: Okay. And what's a good e-mail


address for you?

@UCONN.EDU.

RR: Awesome. All right. So,


we're going to take you back just a bit just to get
some background.

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Uh-huh.

RR: Where did you go to high school


at?

I went to the in

RR: Okay.

Yeah.

RR: Okay. And where was that in

RR:

RR: Got you. And did you go there


all four years?

No, I went there

RR: Okay. Which did you go


there?

year.

RR: Okay. So where did you go for


year?

My year I went to
Then my
year I went And
my year I went to

RR: Got you. So the first were


kind of all in and around

Yeah.

RR: Okay. Very good. And you said

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you did your , so kind of --

Yeah, my --

RR: -- that year after --

-- and year.

RR: Okay. All at the

Uh-huh.

RR: Okay. Got you. So what year are


you here at UConn?

I am a

RR: Okay. Got you. So when was your


freshman year here?

My first year here was

RR: So that school year?

Yeah.

RR: Okay.

AF: transferred here, just as a


heads up.

RR: Okay. Very good.

Yeah, yeah. I transferred from

RR: Got you. So where -- what


university were you at first?

RR: Okay. And was that for how many


years?

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RR: Okay. So

Uh-huh.

RR: Okay. Very good. All right. So


when you transferred, what -- who was your recruiting
coach from UConn? Or who did you speak to? Your
primary contact, I guess.

Yeah, I spoke to Coach Ollie.

RR: Okay. Was there one of the


assistant coaches that -- that would call or you
worked with, as far as like the transfer, or?

Can you --

RR: Sure. Yeah. Did you have


somebody that was kind of your primary contact for,
you know, whenever they were -- you were making that
transition from to here?

Regarding the transfer process?

RR: Uh-huh.

I just spoke to Coach Ollie.

RR: Okay.

Personally, myself.

RR: Did -- did UConn recruit you out


of high school, or --

Yes.

RR: Okay. Who was your primary


recruiting coach then?

Coach Ollie.

RR: Coach Ollie?

Uh-huh.

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RR: Okay. So what played into your
decision to come here to UConn?

It's close to home, but not too


close.

RR: Right.

Obviously the basketball


tradition.

RR: Uh-huh.

And, you know, wanted to play for


Coach Ollie.

RR: Okay. Got you. Did you ever


take any visits to UConn?

Yeah.

RR: Okay. When did you -- did you


take an official visit?

No.

RR: No? So all of your visits were


unofficials?

Yes.

RR: When did those take place?

I took a visit my year in


high school -- no my year, sorry. And
when I was -- during -- during that transferring
process.

RR: Got you. Okay. So you said


during your year and year you
took an unofficial here?

Uh-huh.

RR: I know that that's a bit back, so


I'm making you remember back then, but can you tell

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me what did you do? Like how long were you here?
What did you do on that unofficial?

I was just up here for a couple


of hours. Just came up, took a tour of the campus,
the facilities, you know, spoke with coach, met some
of the players, and that's it.

RR: Okay. Did you -- did they have


practice during that time? Did you watch practice or
anything, do you remember?

No, I did not.

RR: Okay. Did y'all go out to eat or


have anything during that time, do you remember?

No.

RR: Got you. So it was just -- just


the tour --

Uh-huh.

RR: -- you spoke with Coach Ollie,


that type of thing?

Yep.

RR: Was there anything else that you


did during that -- that time?

No.

RR: Okay. How about your visit after


you were at before you enrolled here? How long
was that visit?

It was pretty much the same


thing.

RR: Okay.

Yeah.

RR: Just a couple of hours or --

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Yep.

RR: Did you sit in on practice during


that time or anything, do you remember?

No, I did not.

RR: Okay. So just describe for me


what all did you do whenever you were here.

Came up -- like I said, they


pretty much showed me the facilities again. The
Werth Center wasn't built yet.

RR: Oh, okay.

So when I came back up -- while I


was transferring, it was -- it was up, so they showed
me around the facility. I met with the coaching
staff, and that's it.

RR: Got you. Did y'all go to eat or


anything during that?

No.

RR: No? Did anybody come with you?

Yeah, my AAU coach.

RR: Okay. Who -- I forgot to ask you


that. I assume -- you played AAU ball?

Yeah.

RR: Who's your coach -- or who was


your coach?

RR: What team was that -- or is that?

It was , but it's now


known as the

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RR: Oh, okay. Got you. How long did
you play on that team -- or what years did you play
on that team?

I played my and
year.

RR: Of --

So just two years.

RR: Of high school; right?

Yeah.

RR: Okay. Got you. Did --


did he come with you for that unofficial
visit that you took while you were in high school or
during that year --

Yes.

RR: Okay. So he was with you for


both your unofficials?

Uh-huh.

RR: Got you. Did he know the


coaching staff here, or do you know?

I mean, he was aware of them.


Not a personal relationship -- not to my knowledge,
no.

RR: Okay. Who set up those visits


for you? Did -- I mean, how did they get organized,
do you know?

Well, I would speak to coach,


asked him if it was a good time, talked it over with
my AAU coach, and figured out a time that was good
for him to take me up there. That was pretty much
it.

RR: Okay. Did he ever have to


correspond with the coaches here to set that up, or

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--

I'm not sure.

RR: Okay. Did you call the folks


here and tell them what time you could come, or do
you remember how that worked?

I don't remember.

RR: Okay. Got you. Did -- do you


recall did you -- you said you talked to Coach Ollie
primarily?

Uh-huh.

RR: Did he call you and ask you if


you could come on an unofficial visit, or do you
remember how that worked?

No, I don't remember that


specifically, no.

RR: Okay. But is that probably what


happened, or did you want to take an unofficial? I
guess I'm getting you to think back to did he
recommend it -- did Coach Ollie recommend it, or did
you ask --

Oh, no.

RR: -- to come up?

I wanted to take the unofficial.

RR: Okay.

Yeah.

RR: And so how did


come into -- come into play? Did you ask him to come
up here, or how did that work?

No, I didn't ask him. It was


just a matter of, you know, getting up here. So, you
know, he was able to drive me up here. That was it.

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RR: Okay. Do you know did he talk
with Coach Ollie about your recruitment or anything,
do you recall?

No, I don't recall.

RR: Okay. Got you. Did anybody else


come with y'all, or was it just you and Coach

Just me and

RR: Okay. I'm going to pause there,


and see if -- Clint? Okay. Tom?

TH: I'm sorry, did you say on your


unofficial visits, did you have any meals while you
were here visiting?

No.

TH: Okay.

RR: Okay. All right. I'm


going to just kind of transition a little bit, okay?

Uh-huh.

RR: Want to ask about a former staff


member here, Dave Sevush. Do you remember Dave?

Yeah.

RR: Okay. What did Dave do here?

He was the video coordinator.

RR: Okay. Got you. So did you ever


have any interactions with Dave or ever see him, talk
to him, that type of thing?

No, not really. Just, you know,


cordial.

RR: Did he put together a playbook

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for y'all or something like that, do you remember?

Yeah, he would like update like


plays and stuff for practice like to Hudl, to Hudl
accounts.

RR: Did you ever have to go talk to


him about that or --

No.

RR: -- anything? Did -- was it ever


said like if you have any questions about any plays
or the playbooks or anything go talk to Dave? Do you
remember any of that coming up?

Yeah, yeah.

RR: Who would tell you -- tell y'all


about that?

Coaches.

RR: Which coaches, do you remember?

All of them would say that at


different times.

RR: What would they say exactly?

Just if you need help with the


plays or you want to review the plays, just go see
Dave.

RR: Okay. Did you ever take them up


on that? Did you ever go see Dave about plays or
anything?

No, I haven't. I didn't, no.

RR: Do you know any -- if anybody


would go see Dave about plays and stuff?

No -- I mean, I assume some guys


would, but not specifically, no, I'm not sure.

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RR: Okay. Do you know what exactly
that meant -- or what did you think that that meant,
like go see Dave about plays? What was that -- what
all would he do, I guess, when you would go see him?

I would assume if you were having


trouble understanding the plays, you just go see him,
he'll pull up the video for you from practice or a
game, and you just watch it.

RR: Okay. But you -- you never went


--

No.

RR: -- to him? Okay. And you said


-- do you remember any teammates going to see him
about that?

No.

RR: Okay. Would coaches tell you


that like after practice or something else, just say,
hey, if you have questions, go see Dave or something
like that? Or when did that come up, I guess?

Typically after practice.

RR: Okay. And did you say -- I


probably asked this, but which coaches would tell you
-- or say that?

They would all say it at


different times.

RR: Okay. What different times would


it be?

I don't know. Just after


practice. You know, one coach may say it one day;
another coach may say it another day. It's just --
that's it.

RR: Got you. Clint, you have


anything? Tom, anything? Okay.
All right. So, I'm going to

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switch gears again. All right. So wanted to ask
about just pickup games. I know that's a very broad
topic --

Uh-huh.

RR: But did y'all ever have pickup


games like in the preseason or something like that,
do you know?

Yeah.

RR: When would those -- how would you


find out about those?

They would send out a text.

RR: Okay.

Our managers would send out a


text and say, we'll have pickup at such and such
time. That's about it.

RR: Got you. Is it like a group text


for all of the players or that type thing?

Yeah.

RR: Okay. The managers send you text


about practices and different things going on --

Uh-huh.

RR: -- that type thing? So -- and --


so these pickup games that we're talking about, this
is -- is that normally during preseason that that
happens?

Yeah.

RR: Okay. Where would y'all have


those at, usually?

In the practice facility.

RR: Okay. And who all was there for

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those?

Players.

RR: Players? Were the managers ever


there?

Yeah, the managers be -- the


managers would be there to keep score.

RR: Okay.

Yeah.

RR: Was -- strength and conditioning


coach, was he ever around, do you know?

No.

RR: Okay. How about your trainer,


was he ever there?

Yeah, yeah, he would be there.

RR: Okay. What would he do while he


was there?

He'll just, you know,


occasionally watch, just make sure if anybody got
hurt or anything, you know, he's there.

RR: Got you. There to help you --

Yeah.

RR: -- in case there was an injury or


something like that?

Yeah, uh-huh.

RR: You said the managers were there


keeping score, is that what you were saying?

Uh-huh.

RR: Would they run the board and

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everything like that or --

Yeah.

RR: -- that type thing? Was that a


yes?

Yeah.

RR: Sorry, Thanks. Do you


know would they keep stats for y'all and that type
thing or do anything like that?

Sometimes they would.

RR: Okay.

Sometimes they would, yeah.

RR: Did they just sit off to the side


or -- kind of at a table off to the side, was that
where they were normally or --

Yeah.

RR: Got you. How often would you say


that y'all had those pickup games during the
preseason?

Maybe once, twice a week.

RR: Okay. Got you. How long did


they normally last?

I would say about an hour and a


half, two hours.

RR: Hour and a half to two hours?

Yeah.

RR: Got you. Did -- did coaches ever


ask you how things were going in those pickup games
or anything like that, do you remember?

Yeah.

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RR: Which coaches was that, do you
remember?

Coach Ollie.

RR: What would he ask?

He would just ask me what I think


about some of the -- some of the new guys, who's been
playing well. That's about it.

RR: Got you. Any of the other


coaches ask you how things were going in those pickup
games or anything like that?

No.

RR: When -- when would -- when did --


did that happen one time or a couple of times that
Coach Ollie would ask you how things were going in
those pickup games or --

Happened a couple of times.

RR: Couple of times? How long did


those conversations last? Were they quick or --

Quick.

RR: Quick? Got you. Very, very


good. Tom, did you have --

TH: Do you know what the managers did


with the stats sheets?

No.

TH: Okay. Did the coaches ever ask


anyone else like how the pickup games were going?
Like would they ever ask the managers or the other --
your other teammates.

To my knowledge, no.

TH: Okay.

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RR: Clint? Sorry.

HG: Are you aware, of when KO


or somebody would ask you -- you said it was KO would
ask you how the scrimmages were going, you said that
was a pretty short conversation?

Yeah.

HG: Are you aware of a coach ever


making a comment to a player at a regular practice or
a team meeting about how they were doing in pickup
games or anything like that?

No, I don't recall.

HG: It wasn't something that came up?

I don't recall, no.

HG: Ever hear a coach punish a player


or be critical of a player for either not showing up
or not trying hard or sitting out any kind of pickup
game?

No.

HG: Okay.

RR: Annie?

AF: I don't have anything?

RR: Got you.

TH: Were the pickup games required?

Yeah.

TH: Tell me about that.

What do you mean exactly?

TH: How did you -- who required them,


and how did you know they were required?

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They would send out texts to all
of the guys on the team, and, you know, we would just
meet for pickup. I mean, it wasn't mandatory, but,
you know, just because it's not mandatory doesn't
mean you don't go. You know, everybody likes to
play, so play.

TH: Did the coaches ever make it


mandatory?

No.

TH: Thanks.

RR: Okay. All right. I'm


going to ask a very open-ended question here because
I'm just trying to get an understanding of how things
worked, okay?

Uh-huh.

RR: So just want to talk about


practice in general. I mean, I know that no two
practices are the same, so I know it's hard to give
me an outline of exactly what practice was like. But
if you could, just kind of on an average day, what
did you do -- what do y'all do for practice, like
whenever you have to get there all the way to when
you have to leave? And you don't have to go through
every drill and everything, but kind of what's the
general timeline of how things work out?

Well, we usually lift before.


And then after that, you know, you have some time
with the trainers to get taped or, you know, anything
like that that you may need. Typically, we'll watch
film. After film, we'll go out to the court, you
know, stretch. And then go through the practice
plan.

RR: How long does film normally last


when you watch film?

About 15, 20 minutes.

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RR: On average 15, 20?

Yeah.

RR: How long are your strength and


condition sessions? Whenever y'all are lifting and
that type thing, how long does that normally last?

About 45 minutes to an hour.

RR: Okay. Got you. And in general,


like with practice, your warmup that y'all do, you
know, stretching and that type of thing, does the
strength and condition coach, does he lead that --

Yes.

RR: -- or run y'all through that?


How long does that normally take?

I would say about five minutes.

RR: Okay. Pretty quick?

Yeah.

RR: How long would you say practice


normally lasts all together?

I would say about hour and 45,


two hours.

RR: In a given day, do you -- do you


ever remember feeling like the stuff that you were
required to go to lasting more than four hours?

No.

RR: And I know this is tough because


it's hard for me to keep up with hours, but in a
given week, do you ever feel like the required amount
of time that you -- that you're required to do things
for the team went over 20 hours?

No, I don't think so.

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RR: Okay.

TH: That's a no?

No.

TH: Thank you.

RR: And each week do you -- you feel


like -- do y'all get an off day?

Yes.

RR: Okay. That's very helpful.


Thank you. Tom, did you have anything?

TH: Huh-uh.

RR: Clint?

CS: Nope.

RR: Okay. Just trying to figure out


how practice was. So I know that that was one. So I
wanted to ask, do you remember an individual
by the name of Derrick Hamilton?

Yes.

RR: You remember --

Yes.

RR: -- a man named Derrick?

Uh-huh.

RR: Who is he? Or what did he do?

To my knowledge, he's a trainer.

RR: When do you remember seeing him


-- or meeting him?

My sit-out year. The year I had


to sit out, so the year I transferred in.

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RR: Okay. Got you. So in

Yeah.

RR: Okay. Did -- when did you see


him? When was the first time?

In the summertime.

RR: In the summer? What would y'all


do whenever you would see him?

Just see him around in the gym.

RR: Okay. What was he doing, do you


remember?

He would work some guys out.

RR: Okay. Do you remember what guys


those were?

I seen him workout


, --

RR:

Yeah.

RR: Okay.

That's all I can recall.

RR: That's all that you remember?

Yeah.

RR: Was that -- do you remember


seeing him a couple of times that year, or how -- do
you recall?

No, I don't recall.

RR: You don't recall?

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No.

RR: Did you see him more than once,


do you know?

Yeah, I definitely saw him more


than once.

RR: Okay. Was he there in the summer


and then during the year, or when exactly do you
remember?

I don't remember the time during


the summer.

RR: Okay. Was he ever there during


the year, during the school year?

Not that I remember, no.

RR: Not that you remember? Where was


that at that you saw him, I guess? Sorry, I forgot
to ask that.

In the practice facility.

RR: Practice facility?

Yeah.

RR: Do you know -- what exactly were


they doing, do you remember?

No, I don't remember. Just -- I


would assume just regular basketball workout.

RR: Okay. Were they on the court


there?

Yeah.

RR: Were they -- do you remember were


they running drills or stuff like that or?

Yeah, drills.

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RR: Was it just Mr. Hamilton and one
of the players, or how many people were there, do you
recall?

I remember just seeing him and


one of the players.

RR: Okay. So it kind of seemed like


an individual session type of thing?

Yeah.

RR: Okay. Were you -- were you just


walking by, or were you -- did you sit in, do you
remember?

No, just walking by.

RR: Okay. Do you remember did any of


the guys on the team talk about working out with
Mr. Hamilton or anything like that?

Not that I remember, no.

RR: What time of day was that when


you saw him?

I would say afternoon.

RR: And you said -- did you see him


the next year?

No.

RR: No? Okay.

TH: Did -- did they have a basketball


when they were doing their drills?

Yes.

TH: What kind of drills were they


doing with the basketball?

I'm not sure. Like I said, I was


just walking by.

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TH: And what position does
and -- who was the other young man?

TH: What positions do those


two play?

is a
was a f

TH: Okay. So would Mr. Hamilton only


work with guys who played the guard position, or
would he workout with other guys?

I'm not sure. I only seen him


workout with those two.

TH: And how many times did you see


him workout with these two guys?

I only seen him workout with


those two guys once.

TH: Once?

Yeah.

TH: Were there any other coaches out


there?

No.

TH: Okay.

CS: When you saw them with a


basketball, were they shooting, dribbling, just
passing it? Can you remember any details about that?

No, I don't remember.

CS: Okay.

HG: Was that on two different days,


that you saw him working out with and

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Was it both guys the same day?

Different days.

HG: Do you know how far apart? They


were the same week, same month?

Don't remember.

HG: Okay.

TH: Do you know does -- does Derrick


Hamilton have a relationship with KO, Coach Ollie?

Not to my knowledge. I don't


know.

TH: You don't know? Okay.

Yeah.

TH: All right. Thanks.

CS: That was the summer before you


started here that you saw them?

Yeah, the year I transferred in.

CS: When did you arrive in the summer


of

I don't recall the specific date.

CS: Was it right before school


started?

Right before summer session.

HG: Did you take a summer session


that year?

Yeah.

HG: Was it -- the time you saw them,


was it during that summer session?

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Yes.

RR: Annie, did you have anything?

AF: No, I didn't. Thank you.

RR: Okay. All right, I want


to ask you about -- well, first, Carlos Daniel, do
you remember Carlos?

Uh-huh.

RR: What was Carlos' job here?

Strength coach.

RR: Strength coach? How long was he


here, do you remember?

I don't remember exactly, no.

RR: Okay. Was it a short amount of


time or --

Yeah, short amount of time.

RR: Do you remember who was the


strength coach before him?

Coach I.

RR: Coach I?

Yeah.

RR: Is that Travis Illian?

Yeah.

RR: Can you tell me are there -- were


their strength and conditioning sessions, were they
different? Or what was the differences that you
recall in those?

Pretty much the same.

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RR: Pretty much the same?

Yeah.

RR: Would Carlos do anything


different, as far as different exercises or different
things like out on the court or anything like that,
do you remember?

Yeah, yeah.

RR: What exactly was the difference


there?

We did a lot more like


basketball-related movements and stuff like that on
the court with Carlos.

RR: Okay. Did y'all ever have to use


a basketball for any of those or anything like that?

Yeah.

RR: What would you do specifically


with that -- with the basketball?

We would do like -- like all


lineup, you run and throw it off the backboard and do
like taps like -- for like conditioning. That's
pretty much it.

RR: Would that -- would y'all do


those in like strength and conditioning sessions or
in warmup, or when exactly did y'all do those --

Strength and conditioning


sessions.

RR: Okay. Is there anything else


that sticks out to you as being kind of different
from what coach I used to do?

No.

RR: Okay. Got you. Tom?

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TH: Huh-uh.

RR: Clint? Okay. Annie? All right.

HG: Just to be clear, you said when


you had this basketball, that was some sort of
conditioning movement or drill you were doing?

Yeah.

HG: It wasn't trying to teach you how


to rebound better or box somebody out or something
like that?

No. It was mainly for


conditioning purposes.

RR: All right. So I want to talk


about -- and sorry to jump around on several
different things, but I want to talk about a former
recruit by the name of Do you
remember

Yeah.

RR: Okay. Did ever take an


official visit here, do you remember?

I don't remember.

RR: Don't remember? Do you remember


a time where y'all went to -- to Coach Ollie's house
for a meal and was there?

I don't recall.

RR: Okay. Got you. Just asking. He


did have an official visit, but I think there was an
event where the team gathered at Coach Ollie's house,
and was there just on official visit. Do you
remember that at all?

I don't, no.

RR: Okay. Did you -- did you ever


see on campus or at a game or anything?

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I seen him at a game before,
yeah.

RR: Did you -- and I know you're busy


during games, but if you could, what was he doing
when you saw him, do you remember?

Just sitting and watching the


game.

RR: Okay. Do you remember -- did you


see anybody he was with or anything like that?

No.

RR: Okay. I want to ask about a


former staff member Danny Griffin. Do you remember
Danny?

Yeah.

RR: What was Danny's job here?

I think it was like -- like


player -- like personal development, something along
those lines. Something like that, yeah.

RR: Got you. What would y'all go see


him for?

We wouldn't -- we wouldn't really


go see him.

RR: Okay.

Yeah.

RR: Was he here -- did you see him on


campus a lot, or was he in the facility a lot, do you
remember?

Yeah, he was in the facility.


You would see him at practice.

RR: Okay. What -- did you have any

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interactions with him? Did you ever talk to him or
anything like that?

Yeah, I've talked to him before.

RR: Okay.

Yeah.

RR: What mainly -- was it player


development? What all did you talk with Danny about?

No, he would just talk to me


about different like -- like workshops and like
career fairs that they would be having campus. You
know, try to get me to go. That's pretty much it.

RR: Did Danny ever go to practice, do


you remember?

Yeah.

RR: What would he do at practice?

Just sit and watch.

RR: Okay. Did he ever give -- give


y'all feedback about practice or talk to y'all about
anything --

Not that I remember, no.

RR: Do you remember did he ever --


would he ever stand on the side of the court and
watch or anything like that?

No, no. He would just sit and


watch on the sideline.

RR: Okay. Do you remember would


Danny ever host recruits that were on visits or stuff
like that, do you remember?

No.

RR: Okay. Tom?

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TH: Was Danny, did he ever split any
of his time out in California?

Not to my knowledge.

TH: Okay. As far as you know, while


he was working here, he was based out of Storrs,
Connecticut?

Uh-huh.

TH: Okay. And then do you know


whether he did any recruiting for UConn?

No.

TH: Okay.

RR: Annie?

AF: No, thank you.

RR: All right. getting


towards the end, so you're almost done.
So wanted to ask about a guy by the
name of Boo Willingham. Have you ever heard that
name before?

No.

RR: Okay. That's fine. Can I show


you a picture --

Yeah.

RR: -- and see if you've ever seen --


okay. So just for the record, I'm showing a
picture entitled Enforcement Exhibit 2. It's not a
great picture, but see if you've ever seen him
before.

Yeah.

RR: Yeah?

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Yeah.

RR: Okay. Where have you seen him


before at?

See him at games.

RR: At games?

Uh-huh.

RR: Has he ever been up to the


offices or anything, do you remember? Watched
practice or anything like that?

Not to my knowledge, no.

RR: Okay. When you saw him at games,


did you ever meet him or talk to him, do you
remember?

I've definitely met him before,


yeah.

RR: Okay. Do you remember when you


saw him at games, do you remember what he was doing
or where you saw him at?

Just watching.

RR: Okay. Where would he sit, do you


remember? For the games?

Kind of like behind our bench.

RR: Okay. Were there any recruits


that sat back there, do you know?

Not that I know of, no.

RR: Okay. And, again, I know you're


busy during a game, so you're not watching what
everybody is doing. Did you ever see -- did you ever
see Boo, was he talking to any recruits or anything
like that, do you remember?

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No.

RR: Okay. Tom?

TH: Did Boo have a relationship with


Coach Ollie?

I believe so, yeah. I think they


played together.

TH: They played ball together --

Yeah, he played here or something


along those lines, yeah.

TH: So Boo is a former UConn player?

Yeah.

TH: Okay. Was he a teammate of Coach


Ollie's?

I'm not too sure about it. I


believe so. I think so.

TH: Did Boo ever -- did you ever see


him with

No.

TH: Okay. That's all I've got.

RR: All right.

CS: While you're looking --

RR: Uh-huh, yeah.

CS: -- I just want to go back to the


basketball conditioning thing. Are you sure it was a
basketball? Could it have been a medicine ball that
y'all were using?

TH: You talking about with Carlos?

CS: Yeah.

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Actually, yeah, it was a heavy
ball.

CS: A heavy ball?

Yeah, it was a heavy ball.

CS: Heavier than a basketball?

Yeah.

CS: Okay.

TH: And just to clarify on that, did


-- I thought I heard you say that you guys would tap
the basketball against the glass --

Uh-huh.

TH: Was that with the heavy ball or a


basketball?

That was with the heavy ball.

TH: With the heavy ball?

Yeah.

TH: Dang, that hard?

Yeah, it was only like three


pounds.

TH: Oh.

Yeah.

TH: Thanks.

RR: wanted to go back and ask


you just a couple of questions about -- just to
clarify about your -- about your AAU team. So you
said you played AAU for years?

Yeah.

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RR: Is that right?

Uh-huh.

RR: And your coach's name was

Yeah.

RR: Did he have a nickname?

RR:

Yeah.

RR: Oh, okay. What did y'all call


him?

The players?

RR: Yeah -- I mean, did y'all coach


him or was he known by

Yeah, just or

RR: Okay. Got you. Did -- has he


been up here to see you since you enrolled here at
UConn?

Yeah.

RR: Would he come -- does he come to


practice sometimes or --

No, he -- he's come to a game.


Just came to see how I was doing.

RR: Okay. Do you know does he -- has


he ever talked with your coaches about how you're
doing or anything like that?

To my knowledge, no.

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RR: Okay. Have you ever -- has he
and Coach Ollie ever had a conversation or talked
about, you know, your development as a player or
anything like that?

To my knowledge, no.

RR: Okay. So you don't know if they


have talked since your visits or anything like that?

To my knowledge, no.

RR: Okay. Is there any other players


on your team right now that played AAU on the same
team?

but he played on
the younger group.

RR: Okay. So he was a couple of


years behind you or --

Yeah.

RR: Has come up here to


see him, do you know?

Uh-huh, yeah.

RR: And you said -- has he come to


practice or he hasn't come to practice, do you
remember?

I don't remember him coming to


practice, no.

RR: Okay. Does he still check up on


you and see how you're doing?

Yeah.

RR: But you don't know if he's called


your coaches to see how you're doing or anything like
that?

No.

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RR: Tom?

TH: Nope.

RR: Clint?

CS: No.

RR: Annie? All right. one


last thing and you'll be done, okay?

Uh-huh.

RR: All right. So just wanted to ask


has there ever been any feeling amongst the team that
any one of the players got anything to come to UConn?
And I mean got anything by like money or anything
like that?

No.

RR: Has there ever been any rumor or


any feeling amongst the team about one of y'all --
one of the players getting money or getting anything
to come to UConn?

No.

RR: Okay. Tom?

TH: Nope.

RR: Okay. All right, Well I


thank you for speaking with us today, okay?

No problem.

RR: Really appreciate it. I have one


little last bit to go over, and this is just about
confidentiality. Before I do that, though, I want to
ask is there anything that -- any questions you have
for me?

No.

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RR: Anything that you want to add or
clarify to what we talked about?

No.

RR: Okay. All right. So the last


thing I need to tell you is that NCAA legislation
requires that you help protect the integrity of this
investigation; therefore, as the investigation
continues, we ask that you're not permitted to speak
with others about what we've discussed today or any
information related to this investigation except that
you may speak with your personal legal counsel and
others present in the room, okay.
Failure to protect the integrity of
this investigation could result in an allegation that
you've violated the principles of ethical conduct
and/or the cooperative principle. So do you
understand those statements?

Yes.

RR: Okay. At some point after the


NCAA completes its investigation, someone else
involved as a party in this case or their attorney,
legal counsel, or representative may request to
interview you about matters related to this case, and
we encourage you to agree to speak with them just as
you've agreed to speak with us. This doesn't,
however, include any members of the media, okay?
That is a little bit confusing, so if you ever have
any questions about who you can and cannot talk to,
please reach out to your counsel or reach out to us,
and we'll be happy to help.
Do you have any final questions for
me?

No.

RR: All right. Then I'll note for


the record that this interview concluded at
12:46 p.m. Eastern Time. Thank you, sir.

No problem.

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INTERVIEW OF
UNIVERSITY OF CONNECTICUT
MARCH 6, 2018

RR: All right. So I'd like to note


that it's 2:59 p.m. Eastern Time on Tuesday, March
the 6th, 2018, and I'm here at the NCAA offices.
Clint Speegle and Henry Gimenez are at Lightfoot,
Franklin & White, and and his counsel
and Annie Fiorvanti are in -- at the University of
Connecticut on the call as well.
So for the purpose of voice
identification, I would like to ask each person on
the call to state their name and title, and,
we'll start with you, okay?

RB: Ryan Berry, attorney for

AF: Annie Fiorvanti, associate AD for


compliance at UConn. Amanda Hughes is also in the
room just working on our computer. She's from the
UConn compliance staff.

AS: Anthony Spinella, attorney for

CS: Clint Speegle, outside counsel


for the University of Connecticut.

HG: Henry Gimenez, outside counsel


for UConn.

TH: This is Tom Hosty, I'm an NCAA


director of enforcement.

JD: Jessica Doriot, assistant


coordinator of enforcement.

RR: And I'm Russell Register, one of


the assistant directors of enforcement with the NCAA.
I do want to note that this interview
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today's interview?

Yeah.

RR: Okay. I also want to note that


the interview is being recorded by the institution,
but we have a standing agreement that they keep that
confidential and not share that with third parties;
is that correct, Clint?

CS: That's correct, Russell.

RR: Okay. Prior to going on the


record, you received a form entitled the NCAA
interview notice form. Did you have a chance to read
that form,

Yes.

RR: Okay. Do you understand that the


purpose of this interview is to determine whether you
have any knowledge of or involvement in any
violations of NCAA legislation?

Yes.

RR: Do you understand that you may be


represented by personal legal counsel during this
interview, and you've chosen to do so?

Yes.

RR: Do you understand that NCAA Bylaw


10.1 obligates you to provide truthful and complete
information in this interview?

Yes.

RR: Do you understand that if it is


ever determined that you've provided false or
misleading information or withheld information in
this interview, that this could constitute a
violation of the NCAA principles of ethical conduct
and could impact your eligibility as a student
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Yes.

RR: Do you understand that


information provided during this interview may be
shared with other NCAA departments?

Yes.

RR: Do you have any questions


regarding any part of the interview notice form?

No.

RR: And did you electronically sign


and date that form?

Yes.

RR: Okay. I'm going to turn it over


to Tom Hosty.

TH: Hey, This is Tom Hosty.


We met last week, and in a moment, Russell is going
to walk you through some questions. We're going to
go over something that we talked with you about last
week, and we're going to show you some documents that
we have obtained related to one of the matters that
we talked with you about, and we're going to ask your
-- for your knowledge and information related to
those.
But what I want to do is I want to
underscore it's critical that you tell us the truth.
It's imperative that you provide truthful information
because if it were determined that you provided us
false or misleading information, then this can impact
your eligibility as a student athlete. So I just
want to underscore the importance to tell the truth.
And if you and your attorneys need to
stop and take a break and consult, you know, we would
encourage you to do that because it's -- again, we
just want to make sure that you provide truthful
information and that you have adequate time to
respond to our questions.
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RR: Okay. Annie is going to


hand you some pictures to look at. They're labeled
as UConn exhibits 1459, 1460, 1461, 1462, and 1463.
So I'm going to give you a minute to look over those,
okay?

Yep.

AS: Hey, he's looked at them.

RR: Okay. All right, let's


start with UConn 1459, so that first picture. I can
represent to you that this was taken from the Pro
Purpose Instagram, which is Derrek Hamilton's
Instagram account for his training business. Does
that look like the sign at the University of
Connecticut?

Yes.

RR: Okay. 14 -- you can move to


1460, that second picture. This is also from the Pro
Purpose Instagram account, which is Derrek
Hamilton's Instagram account for his business. Does
that look like the UConn gym?

Yes.

RR: Okay. And let's move over to


UConn 1461. It's a picture of a group of
individuals. Does that picture look familiar,

Yes.

RR: Okay. Can you tell me who all is


in that photo? Let's start on the left side of it.
So we'll start with that first individual. Who is
that?

I don't know -- I don't remember


his name. I don't know him personally.

RR: Okay. Do you know if he plays


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RR: Do you remember where?

No.

RR: Okay. Who is that second


individual?

RR: Okay. Was a teammate?

Yeah.

RR: Okay. So he was a student


athlete at UConn?

Yes.

RR: Okay. Who is the next


individual?

Myself.

RR: Okay. Who's standing next to


you?

RR: Okay. Who's the next individual?

Derrek Hamilton.

RR: Okay. And who's standing next to


Derrek?

I'm not sure.

RR: Okay. Do you remember if he


played at a school, at a college?

No, no, I do not.

RR: All right. walk me


through -- how do you know these guys? What were
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We were working out.

RR: Okay. Where was it at?

This was in Atlanta.

RR: Okay. Do you remember what year


this was, what time of the year?

Summertime. I want to say 2016.

RR: Is that 2016,

Yes.

RR: Okay. So --

AF: Russell, can you hold on one


second? I think we're getting you guys on video.

RR: Oh, okay.

TH: Yeah, we have you.

RR: Yep.

AS: We've got you.

AF: All right.

RR: Okay. Perfect.

Thanks.

RR: So tell me how did y'all


-- what did y'all go there for?

We went to play basketball.

RR: Okay. So how did you -- how did


you know Derrek Hamilton?

From seeing him out there at the


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RR: Okay. So I'm just going to ask


an open-ended question here, and I just want you to
describe things as best as you can recall it. So
walk me through from the time that you met him until
the summer that y'all played basketball in Atlanta,
what happened.

I seen him -- I seen him around


the facility. I introduced myself to him, spoke to
him, and that pretty much was it. And then I went to
Atlanta, you know, I spoke with him, linked up with
him, we worked out, and that's about it.

RR: Okay. Did Derrek help work


y'all out?

Say that one more time. Sorry.

RR: It's okay. Did Derrek help work


y'all out? Did y'all work out with Derrek?

In Atlanta?

RR: Yes.

Yes.

RR: You did?

Yes.

RR: Okay. Was it all of these guys


that are in this picture that worked out with
Derrek?

Yeah. This -- yeah.

RR: Okay. So and


worked out with Derrek too?

Yeah.

RR: Okay. Did -- did y'all pay


Derrek or -- who paid Derrek?

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RR: That was a no,

Yeah, no.

RR: Okay. Where did y'all stay while


y'all were in Atlanta?

We stayed with him.

RR: Okay. How long did y'all stay


with him?

I don't recall exactly, maybe


like four or five days.

RR: Okay. About four or five days?

Yeah.

RR: Okay. How did you get to


Atlanta,

Flew.

RR: Okay. Who paid for your plane


ticket?

I did.

RR: Okay. Do you remember where you


flew from to Atlanta?

What airline, you mean?

RR: Yes. Sure.

No, I don't remember exactly.

RR: Okay. Did -- where did you fly


from, like what town did you fly out of?

Flew from Hartford.

RR: From where? I'm sorry.




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Hartford.

RR: Hartford?

Yeah.

RR: Okay. Did you fly with -- with


and or --

I flew with

RR: Okay. And so you said who paid


for your plane ticket?

I did.

RR: Okay. And do you remember what


airline you flew?

No, I do not remember.

RR: Okay. How much was the ticket?

I don't remember exact price.

RR: Did you have to fly through


somewhere, do you remember?

Say that one more time. Sorry.

RR: Was it a direct flight, or did


you have to connect somewhere?

I don't remember.

RR: How did -- how did get to


Atlanta?

I assume he flew.

RR: Okay. So when y'all were staying


with Derrek, did y'all eat with Derrek? Did he
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RR: Okay. How about when y'all


worked out at different places. Did he drive y'all?
Or how did y'all get there?

Yeah, he drove.

RR: And y'all rode with him?

Yep.

RR: And when I say y'all, I'm talking


about and is that correct?

Yes.

RR: Okay. What all -- do you


remember what all gyms y'all went to to work out at?

No. No, I don't.

RR: Okay. If you could, take


a look at UConn Document 1463. Does that look like
the gym that's in the picture --

Yeah.

RR: -- where y'all were at?

Yes.

RR: That was a yes? Okay. So that's


from Athletic Club Northeast. Do you remember how
you got in to that gym?

Not exactly, no.

RR: Okay. Did -- did Derrek take


y'all there?

Yeah.

RR: Did -- I mean, did you have to


check in at a front desk, did he have to pay a fee to
get in? How did that work?

We just walked in.

 

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RR: Okay. Did it seem like he knew


somebody there, or he knew how to get -- get in?

Well, I mean, there was a front


desk, and we had to like -- like sign our names, like
a sign in.

RR: Okay. Did y'all primarily


Work out at this gym, or were there others that you
went to?

No, it was just this one.

RR: Okay. And how many times -- or


how long during the day did y'all work out with
Derrek?

Like twice a day.

RR: How long did those last?

I'd say between like an hour to


like hour and 15, hour and 20 minutes.

RR: Okay. Did y'all have a lunch


break or something?

Yeah.

RR: What would y'all do for lunch?

Go get something to eat.

RR: Okay. Did Derrek buy that for


you?

No.

RR: other than the guys that


are in the picture on UConn 1461, was there anybody
else that worked out with y'all that summer?

No.

RR: Okay. When y'all were working



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out with Derrek, what exactly did he do with y'all?


What exactly kind of stuff did y'all do?

Basketball drills on the court.


That pretty much was it.

RR: Okay. So, walk me through


how did you -- how did you get in contact with
Derrek? How did you find out about this?

From seeing him around, around


the facility at school.

RR: Okay. And what was he doing at


the facility?

He was there just working guys


out.

RR: Okay. Who all was he working


out?

I seen him work out


and

RR: Anybody else?

No, not that I can remember.

RR: Okay. And what time -- when was


that?

I
think.

RR: When was that --

My first summer -- my first


summer up there, .

RR: Okay. So was that


?

Yeah.

RR: Okay. How did you get Derrek's



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number?

He gave it to me.

RR: Okay. Who made contact with him?


Did y'all call him before y'all went? How did that
work?

Yeah. We spoke to him -- well, I


spoke to him before -- before that.

RR: Before you went to Atlanta?

Yeah.

RR: So how did -- how did it come


that and went?

I don't recall all those details.


It's been so long ago.

RR: Did you tell a coach you were


going?

I don't recall telling a coach,


no.

RR: So do you recall -- what time of


the summer was this that you went to work out with
Derrek?

Towards the ending of the summer.

RR: Towards the what?

Towards like the ending of the


summer.

RR: Okay. So was this after required


workouts and stuff like that during the summer?

I don't remember exactly.

RR: Okay. So it never came up in


conversation with a coach that three of y'all were
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Not that I remember, no.

RR: Okay. last time we


talked, we talked about Derrek, but this didn't come
up. Is there a reason?

I don't understand.

RR: Okay. So the last time that we


talked, the last time that we had our interview, last
week, we talked about Derrek Hamilton. We talked
about what you knew him from and how you knew him,
but this never came up, that you went and worked out
with him over the summer. Is there a reason why it
didn't come up or --?

There's always not a reason. You


guys didn't ask that.

RR: Okay. What did you think we were


asking?

Whatever question it was that you


asked.

RR: So yeah. Just why I'm asking,


is because when we asked how you knew Derrek,
you just said you had just seen him around on campus.
You didn't mention that you actually saw him over the
summer or that you stayed with him or anything like
that. So that's -- that's what I'm just wondering,
is why that didn't come up?

RB: I would like a minute with my


client.

RR: Okay. I'm going to pause at


3:20 p.m. Eastern Time so that can confer with
counsel.

(Short recess.)

RR: All right. I'll note for the


record that we're resuming at 3:21 p.m. Eastern Time.
Okay, --



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RB: What was your question --

RR: I'm sorry?

RB: Repeat the question.

RR: Okay. Sure. the last


time we talked, we talked a bit about how you knew
Derrek Hamilton, but this didn't come up. Is there
a reason why?

I thought you were referring to


the first time I seen him. I met him around campus.

RR: Okay. All right, at any


point has anybody told you not to tell us about when
you went and worked out with Derrek?

No.

RR: Was that a no,

Yes, no.

RR: Okay. Has anyone reached out to


you about your interview with us today?

No.

RR: Okay.

RB: Just us.

Yeah, besides my attorney.

RR: Yeah, other than your attorneys.

Yeah.

RR: Has Derrek reached out to you,

No. No.

RR: Okay. Tom?



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TH: Yeah, this is Tom Hosty.


Just a follow-up -- some follow-up questions. I want
to go back to the workouts. And you told us that,
"they were basketball drills on the court, that was
pretty much it," but can you give me a little more
detail? You guys were down there for four or five
days and doing basketball drills apparently twice a
day. Can you give me a little bit more detail as to
all the workouts that Derrek Hamilton was taking you
through?

I don't remember everything


exactly, but we would work out twice a day on the
basketball court. Go through, you know, some
conditioning, like run on the track, and that was
really it.

TH: How many different drills did


Derrek take you through?

I don't remember exactly.

TH: Okay. Was it more than five


different drills?

Yeah.

TH: Okay. Were there times when you


scrimmaged or played two-on-two or anything like
that?

No.

TH: Okay. So it was -- and -- you


called Derrek before you went to Atlanta, and it
sounds like when you were going to Atlanta, the
purpose was for Derrek to work you out; is that
correct?

Yeah.

TH: Okay. Tell me about your


arrangements, your conversations with Derrek. How
did it come about that you arrived in Atlanta? Did
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to do workouts, or did he seek you out and ask you to


come down?

I was going to Atlanta, and I


knew he was out there, so I reached out to him.

TH: Okay. And when you reached out


to him, tell me what you all talked about over the
phone.

(Unintelligible) about getting


some workouts in.

TH: Okay. And what did he say?

He said, yeah, sure.

TH: Okay. Was there any arrangement


for you to pay him for this?

No.

TH: Okay. And you did not in fact


pay him; is that correct?

Yes.

TH: Okay. And you said you were


there for about four or five days. How do you know
that? What sticks out in your memory? Why four to
five days?

It was just pretty much like an


assumption.

TH: Okay.

I don't remember exactly how long


I was there.

TH: Okay. I guess we could always


try to get your travel records to verify, but I was
just curious. But the whole time that you were
there, this was the only gym that you went to, the
gym that Russell referred you to in the exhibit?

 

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Yes.

TH: Okay. Any reason -- did you ever


go to Georgia State University's gym?

Yeah, yeah, I did.

TH: Tell me about that. Went there


to play pickup.

TH: With who?

Other -- other players from


around the area.

TH: Okay. Was Derrek Hamilton


there?

I don't remember exactly.

TH: Okay. How many times did you


play at Georgia State?

I can remember once.

TH: Okay. And how did you get to


Georgia State to play that pickup game?

Drove.

TH: In whose car?

In Derrek Hamilton's.

TH: Okay. Did he drive you?

No.

TH: Did you take his car?

I did not, no.

TH: Or who drove? Who drove you?

drove.




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TH: Okay. And was he driving one of


Derrek's cars?

I believe it was his car, yeah.

TH: Okay. Did Derrek allow you and


to use his car for that purpose?

To go to the pickup, yeah.

TH: Okay. All right. And on the


other occasions when you went to the Northeast
Atlanta Gym, did Derrek drive you to the gym on
those occasions?

Yes.

TH: Okay. And just so I can


understand it, were you at the Northeast Athletic
Club Gym, were you there every day working out with
Derrek while you were in Atlanta?

Yeah.

TH: Okay. And he would have driven


you to that gym on each of those occasions; is that
correct?

Yeah.

TH: Okay. And then on one occasion,


it sounds like used one of Derrek's cars to
drive you and he and -- was with you when you
went to Georgia State?

Yeah.

TH: Okay. And you guys played in a


pickup game at that gym; is that correct?

Yes.

TH: Okay. Were there any other


occasions where you, or borrowed one of
Derrek's cars for any reason?

 

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No.

TH: Okay. And when you were at


Derrek's house, where did you sleep exactly?

In the room.

TH: In a bedroom?

Yes.

TH: Okay. Did you have a bed?

Yeah.

TH: Okay. And how about and


Do you know where they slept?

In a room as well.

TH: Okay. Did they also have beds?

Yes.

TH: Okay. Was there anyone else at


the house with Derrek Hamilton when you three were
there?

No.

TH: Okay. And was this an


arrangement where you, and had come to
an agreement to go to Atlanta to work out with Derrek
together?

Say that one more time? Sorry.

TH: Was this planned that you and


and were going to go to Atlanta and
work out with Derrek Hamilton?

Yeah, the three of us spoke about


it.

TH: Okay. And did the other two


understand that they were going to Atlanta to work out

 

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with Derrek Hamilton?

I would assume so. You would


have to ask them that.

TH: Okay. Is that what you all


talked about?

Yes.

TH: Okay. And what were you -- what


was the purpose of working out with Derrek Hamilton?
What were you hoping to achieve by working out with
Derrek?

Just -- just to work out, get


better in my game.

TH: Okay. And is that what Derrek


does for a living? Is he -- is that -- is he a
specialist in basketball workouts?

I'm not sure. But what I know


him for is for basketball training. I don't know if
that's what he --

TH: Okay. And he does basketball


training, is that what he does for a living?

I couldn't tell you.

TH: Okay.

I just know him from what I know


him from.

TH: Okay.

I don't know what he does for a


living.

TH: Okay. And then I think they


showed you those four documents, and if you could
look at UConn Exhibit 1462. And it's -- I'll
represent to you that that was a screenshot from
PPD's website, Derrek's website, where he indicates



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that UConn basketball was either one of his clients


or alumni. Did you realize that Derrek was
advertising that UConn basketball was one of his
clients or alumni?

No.

TH: Okay. And on UConn Exhibit 1461,


the photograph of you with Derrek Hamilton, that was
pulled from Derrek's website as well. Did you
realize that Derrek had posted that photo of you and
the others on his website?

No.

TH: Okay. Did you realize at the


time that you were there in Atlanta that the -- that
your staying with Derrek Hamilton, his driving you
around, and the workouts could possibly constitute a
violation of NCAA rules?

No, I did not.

TH: At any time while you were in


Atlanta, did you realize that you were engaged in
rules violations related to the NCAA?

No.

TH: Okay. Did you ever tell your


UConn coaches about the workouts that you
participated in with Derrek?

I don't recall telling them, no.

TH: Okay. Did your UConn coaches,


did they know that you had worked out with Derrek
that summer?

I don't believe so.

TH: Okay.

RR: did you say that you


believed that they did know that you worked out with
Derrek?



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I said I don't believe.

RR: Oh, okay.

TH: Do you have Derrek Hamilton's


contact information?

Do I now?

TH: Yes.

I had his card before. I don't


have his card -- I no longer have his card.

TH: Okay. Does Derrek have your --


does he have your contact information?

I would assume so, yeah. My


number hadn't changed.

TH: Okay. And do you recall where


Derrek's house was located, the address?

No, I don't remember.

TH: Do you know what part of town in


Atlanta his house was located?

No. I'm not from Atlanta, so I


don't know the area very well.

TH: Okay. In UConn Exhibit 1461, the


photograph of you with Derrek Hamilton, if I -- the
individual on the far left, is it -- do you recall
the name of who plays at Is
that him?

I don't know who that is.

TH: Okay. And did -- is -- is your


teammate is he from

Yes.

TH: Did he -- did you guys see him



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that week while you were down in Atlanta?

I didn't see him, no.

TH: Okay. Did play with


you all or work out with Derrek Hamilton?

To my knowledge, no.

TH: Okay. And has Derrek Hamilton


-- I'm sorry. I think Russell already asked that
question. I won't ask it again.
I wanted to pause right there and see
if Clint and Henry have any questions.

CS: I've got a few follow-ups.


do you have Derrek Hamilton's phone number in
your phone?

Yeah.

CS: Do you have your phone with you


today?

Yeah.

CS: Can we -- can you show Annie


after we're done that contact, so she can get that
phone number from there?

Okay.

CS: All right. When was the last


time you spoke to Derrek Hamilton?

It's been awhile. I don't


remember exactly.

CS: Have y'all spoken often since --

No.

CS: Since you went down to Atlanta?

No.



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CS: What was the context of the last


time you spoke with him? What did y'all talk about?

I don't remember. It was so long


ago.

CS: Did you pay Derrek Hamilton any


money to stay at his home?

No.

CS: Do you know if or


paid him anything to stay at Derrek Hamilton's home?

I'm not sure what they did.

CS: Was there ever any discussion


about who was going to pay for these workouts?

No.

CS: Do you know how much he typically


charges for a workout?

No, I don't.

CS: Do you have any idea of why he


would have provided four to five days’ worth of
workouts two times a day to you for free?

No.

CS: Did you tell Coach Ollie you were


going to Atlanta at any point that summer?

Not that I recall, no.

CS: Coach Ollie ever suggest that you


should call Derrek Hamilton to do workouts?

No.

CS: How did you find out you were


being interviewed today?

A person from compliance



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contacted me yesterday.

CS: What time yesterday?

Sometime in the evening.

CS: Did Kevin Ollie contact you at


any point --?

No.

CS: -- yesterday or today to tell you


that you were going to be interviewed?

No.

CS: Did anybody from UConn contact


you other than compliance to tell you that you were
going to be interviewed?

No.

CS: Either before the last interview


or before today's interview, did anybody suggest ways
to answer questions that might be asked other than
your attorneys?

Say that one more time. Sorry.

CS: Yeah. Other than your attorneys,


did anybody suggest to you ways to answer questions
that might be asked by the institution or the
enforcement staff?

No.

HG: I think you mentioned you


and and got together and sort of figured
out that you guys wanted to get to Atlanta to train
with Derrek. Do you have a feel for when this sort
of plan came together or this trip came together?

I don't remember exactly.

HG: Okay. We see in some of those


photos you have in front of you, like where there's a



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picture of the UConn sign and a picture of the court,


it looks like there was a posted day, like July 2nd
and July 3rd of 2015. Do you see that at the bottom
of those photos? It's kind of in light font. Am I
getting those dates right?

Yeah, I see them.

HG: Do -- and from talking to other


folks, obviously, you learned -- or you met Derrek
when you believed he was on campus training and
is that right?

I -- I said and
I don't know --

HG: I'm sorry. Yeah, you're right.


I apologize. That's when you met him, when he was
training those two guys?

Yeah.

HG: And then I think you said you


felt your trip to Atlanta occurred towards the end of
the summer; is that right?

Yes.

HG: So do you think if Derrek was on


campus in sort of early July of 2015, your trip to
Atlanta would have been after July 2015, or at least
after that early July date on those photos?

It wasn't in 2015.

HG: Okay. You went in 2016?

Yeah.

HG: Okay. Thank you. That's -- I


was confused there.
When you first met Derrek, was there
any mention of, hey, I'm a trainer, I train in
Atlanta, you guys -- or you should think about coming
to Atlanta sometime?

 

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No. He -- he mentioned that he


was a trainer. I mean, that was --

HG: Right.

-- I could see that because he


was training the guys.

HG: Right. That's fair.

But that -- I was guessing.

HG: So when you guys reached out --


or you reached out to Derrek about the possibility,
was there any discussion of, hey, why don't I come to
UConn instead of three of you guys having to fly all
of the way to Atlanta?

I don't remember.

HG: Were you, and


together the whole time you were in Atlanta?

Yes.

HG: There wasn't a time where


and/or peeled off and went to go play pickup
somewhere else that you didn't go to? Y'all all
stuck together?

Yeah.

HG: You recall any time -- you


mentioned Mr. Hamilton driving you guys to some gyms,
maybe letting drive his car to at least one
gym. Any time when y'all were in Atlanta where y'all
had to take an Uber or taxi anywhere?

Not that I remember, no.

HG: And I think you mentioned


something -- and I just want to be clear. Were you
going to Atlanta for any other reason than to -- to
train with Derrek?

No.




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HG: Okay. And then who booked your


flight,

I did.

HG: Okay. And who paid for your


flight?

I paid.

HG: And how did you pay for your


flight? Debit card, credit card, travel agent?

I did it online, so with my debit


card.

HG: Okay. You still use that debit


card?

I've got a new -- a new one since


then, but.

HG: Is it the same bank?

Yeah. Yes.

HG: Okay. I think that's all I have


right now.

TH: Hey --

HG: You didn't pay for anybody else's


ticket, did you?

No.

HG: Okay.

TH: this is Tom Hosty again.


And I want to follow-up on something Henry just asked
you -- but I don't know if he asked it. I know that
Derrek Hamilton drove you all back and forth from
his house to the gym on at least one occasion and let
take one of his cars. Did you all pay for the
use of that transportation? Did you pay -- or

 

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reimburse Derrek back anything?

No.

TH: Okay. Thank you.

RR: do you know is there any


other players, either former players, current
players, that have ever gone to Atlanta to work out
with Derrek other than you three that we've talked
about?

To my knowledge, no.

RR: Okay. Has there ever been, other


than the one specific instance that you've talked
about, and (sic), has there ever been
any other time that you ever saw Derrek Hamilton on
campus?

No.

RR: Have you ever heard that he's


ever come to campus to work out any other UConn
student athlete?

No.

RR: Okay. Annie, did you have any


follow-ups?

AF: I don't have anything, thank you.

RR: Okay. Mr. Spinella?

AS: No, thank you.

RR: Okay.

TH: No.

RR: Clint? Henry?

CS: Nope.

RR: No? Okay. All right. Last

 

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question I have for you, based on our


interview last week, is there anything that you
didn't tell us during that interview that you feel
that you need to tell us now?

No.

RR: Okay. Do you have anything you


want to add or clarify to what we've talked about?

No.

RR: Okay. So the last thing I need


to tell you is that NCAA legislation requires that
you help protect the integrity of this investigation;
therefore, as the investigation continues, you're not
permitted to speak with others about what we've
discussed today or any information related to this
investigation except that you may speak with your
personal legal counsel or others on the call.
Failure to protect the integrity of
this investigation could result in an allegation that
you've violated the principles of ethical conduct
and/or the cooperative principle. So do you
understand those statements,

Yes.

RR: Okay. At some point after the


NCAA completes its investigation, someone else
involved as a party in this case or their attorney,
legal counsel, or representative, may request to
interview you about matters related to this case, and
we encourage you to agree to speak with them just as
you have agreed to speak with us. This doesn't
include any representatives from the media. If you
do have any questions about who you can or cannot
talk to, please feel free to reach out to your
counsel or to Annie or to myself, and we're happy to
help you, okay? Do you have any final questions for
me,

No.

RR: Okay. Then I'll note for the


record that this interview concluded at --



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HG: Hey, let me ask one question, I'm


sorry.

RR: Okay. Yes. Go ahead, Henry.

HG: I'm sorry. When you were


working out or during any conversation with Derrek,
are you aware of Derrek having any connection or
affiliation to any agents or financial advisors or
anybody that he might recommend or suggested to you
he can put you in touch with as you began your pro
career?

No.

HG: That's it.

RR: All right. Then I'll just note


for the record that this interview concluded at
3:45 p.m. Eastern Time. Thanks,

TH: Thank you,



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INTERVIEW OF
JANUARY 26, 2018
UNIVERSITY OF CONNECTICUT

RR: All right. I'll note that it's

1:23 p.m. Mountain Time, correct? Okay. And

we're here at the University of and

it's Friday, January the 26th, 2018. For the

purpose of voice identification, I'd like to

ask each person in the room to state their

name and title and we'll start with you.

I'm a at the

RR: Very good.

CS: Clint Speegle from the law firm

of Lightfoot, Franklin & White in Birmingham,

Alabama, outside counsel, University of



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Connecticut.

LS: Lisa Scott, post-grad intern with

the NCAA.

RR: And I'm Russell Register, one of

the assistant directors of enforcement with

the NCAA. And I'd like to note that before

going on the record, we asked if it was

okay to record today's interview, and you said

it was; is that correct,

Yes.

RR: Okay. And also want to note that

the institution is recording today and we have

a verbal agreement to keep that recording

confidential pursuant to Division I bylaw

19.5.8 and that's where they agree not to

share that recording with any third parties;

is that correct, Mr. Speegle?

CS: That's correct. Thank you.



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RR: Okay. Perfect. prior to

going on the record, you were asked to review a

form entitled the NCAA notice form; did you

have a chance to read that form?

Yes.

RR: Okay. Do you understand that the

purpose of this interview is to determine

whether you have any knowledge of or

involvement in any violations of NCAA

legislation?

Yes.

RR: Okay. Do you understand that you

may be represented by personal legal counsel

during this interview?

Yes.

RR: Do you understand that NCAA bylaw



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10.1 obligates you to provide truthful and

complete information in this interview?

Yes.

RR: Okay. Do you understand that if

it is ever determined that you provided false

or misleading information or withheld

information in this interview then this could

constitute a violation of the NCAA principles

of ethical conduct and could impact your

eligibility as a student athlete?

Yes.

RR: Okay. Do you understand that the

information provided during this interview may

be shared with the NCAA eligibility center?

Yes.

RR: Okay. Do you have any questions

regarding any part of the interview notice



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form?

No.

RR: Okay. And did you sign and date

that form?

Yes.

RR: Perfect. All right. Thank you

for bearing with me. All right. So just

wanted to start, what's a good phone

number to call you at if we needed to?

RR: Okay. What's a good email

address for you?

@gmail.

RR: Perfect. Thank you, sir. All

right. Just starting with some background.



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So you said you're a here; is

that correct?

Uh-huh. Uh-huh.

RR: Where did you go to high school?

RR: Okay. Where is that at?

RR: Oh, okay. Got you. And if you

could -- and I know this may be taking you

back a bit. What were some of the schools

that were recruiting you?

, schools like that.

RR: Okay. Very good list.



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Uh-huh. Thank you.

RR: What was it about that

made you choose here?

I mean, they -- they offered me

as a so I felt I had a close

relationship with the coaches out here.

RR: That's good. That's good.

Specifically about -- taking you back to UConn

and their recruitment, who was your recruiting

coach from there?

I don't even remember.

RR: That's okay.

Yeah. It was my --

they stopped recruiting me, like, my

year.

RR: Okay. And that was my next



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question is what was the timeframe of when

you were recruited by UConn?

Yeah. My

year -- beginning of year.

RR: Okay.

But yeah, they really stopped

talking to me around that time.

RR: So started year of high

school ended year?

Uh-huh. Yeah.

RR: Around year of high

school?

Yeah.

RR: Okay. And you said you don't

recall who was your recruiting coach from




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there?

No, not that I can think of right

now.

RR: Got you. Do you know who you

might have talked to or anybody during that

time?

I don't think I really talked to

UConn. Like, I knew I had an offer from them.

It was like one of those things where they

offered me, but I never really talked to them

so --

RR: Okay.

I don't know.

RR: Got you. So you -- probably that

answer my next question. Did you ever take a

visit to UConn?



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No.

RR: Okay. Do you recall -- and if

you don't, that's okay. But just wanted to

ask. There was an individual by the name of

Danny Griffin who worked at UConn.

Uh-huh.

RR: Do you know, did he ever call

you; do you recall?

No.

RR: Okay. Do you know -- did you

ever see any employees from UConn? Any

coaches or any staff? Did any of them ever

come see you?

I think Kevin Ollie and a couple

of his coaches came to watch me practice in

high school.

 

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RR: Okay.

Yeah.

RR: I'm going to show a picture of an

individual. If you -- just to the best of

your recollection, if you can tell me if you

remember seeing him or not, okay?

Okay.

RR: So on the -- for the record, I am

showing a picture of an individual and

it's labeled enforcement exhibit 1.

What was his name?

RR: Do you recall seeing him at all?

I think he might have came to one

of the practices.

RR: Okay. This individual is Danny



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Griffin.

Uh-huh.

RR: So that's the individual I asked

you before if you had ever spoke with on the

phone.

Okay.

RR: Do you recall, did he ever call

you?

No.

RR: Okay. So thinking back to those

times -- and were these practices or games

that you had in high school?

Oh, it was practices.

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Pre-season practices.

RR: Okay.

Yeah.

RR: What year was that during

or

TE:

RR: year?

Yeah.

RR: Got you. And you said -- do you

recall who all or how many people from UConn

might have been there?

It was probably three or four.

RR: Okay.

Yeah.



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RR: Got you. And do you know any of

them by name?

The only one was Kevin Ollie.

RR: Okay. Did you say you remember

that he might have been one of the individuals

there?

Yeah.

RR: Do you recall, was he one of the

individuals there?

No -- I don't clearly remember,

but I'm pretty sure he's probably one of the

coaches there.

RR: Okay. Did he talk to you at that

practice or did anyone from UConn talk to you?

I just shook their hands and good



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to see you, you know, thank you for coming

out. That's probably about it, though.

RR: Okay. Do you remember speaking

with Danny Griffin?

I probably shook hands. You know,

like they were all lined up.

RR: Okay.

I just shook their hand, you

know, good to see you. And they all said, oh,

you look good and I just went on about my day.

RR: Okay. So no substantive

conversation, nothing --

Huh-uh.

RR: -- elaborate or anything like

that?



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No.

RR: Okay. Did anyone from UConn --

during that time, I know you said that they

didn't -- y'all didn't really talk, but did

anyone ask you to take a visit to campus?

No. That was -- I wasn't being

heavily recruiting by them or nothing like

that.

RR: Okay.

So I don't know.

RR: It never reached that point?

No.

RR: I think you've already answered

this, but just wanted to be clear for the

record, do you recall speaking to anyone from

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No.

RR: Did anyone ever text you?

I might have got a text. I don't

remember who. Like, I never saved numbers,

but yeah.

RR: Okay. Got you. I wanted to ask

you this, because -- and just to the best

of your knowledge, okay? It's been reported

to us that someone might have offered UConn

recruits money or items of value --

Uh-huh.

RR: -- to commit to UConn. Did

anyone ever approach you or offer you anything

of value or money to commit to UConn?

No.

RR: Okay.

 

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CS: Can I get you to speak up so we

can get --

Yeah. No. No. I mean, I never

really -- like I said, I never really got that

far into recruitment with them.

RR: Okay.

So no.

RR: To the best of your knowledge,

did anyone ever offer your family members or

your friends any money or anything of value to

commit -- for you to commit to UConn?

No.

RR: Okay. Okay. Clint, did you have

something?

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clarifications. You said -- I think the

question was do you recall anyone from UConn.

You don't recall anyone from UConn calling

you; is that right?

Yeah.

CS: That was a terrible question.

I'm going to -- there should have been an

object to the form there.

It's all good.

CS: Do you -- do you recall anyone

from UConn calling you?

No. Like, I don't know -- I

don't remember.

CS: You don't remember?

No.

 

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CS: They could have?

They could -- like, I probably

got a text. Like I said, like he asked about

the text. I probably got a text, but I never

talked on the phone with anybody from UConn.

CS: Okay. I just wanted to make sure

we were clear. Sorry about the terrible

question.

It's all good.

CS: What was your high school coach's

name?

At the time, I was at

so it was

CS: So when you say at the time, what

do you mean?

I was -- I went to

 

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CS: Okay.

So from to year,

I was at

CS: So the time you were being

recruited by UConn, you were at

Yes.

CS: And it was at that

the individual in enforcement exhibit 1, you

believe, came to a practice?

Yes.

CS: Can you describe, like, what he

did at the practice? Was he just sitting in

the stands or was he --

Yeah. Yeah, they were all



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sitting in the stands just watching us

practice.

CS: How big of a gym do y'all have;

is it -- at ?

It's a pretty good size gym,

yeah. I mean, it was open to all coaches.

There was a lot of coaches there. A lot of

college coaches. So they weren't the only

coaches there.

CS: There were other coaches at this

particular practice that were there?

Yes.

CS: Do you recall who else might have

been there?

Probably

. That's the ones that I

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CS: Just so I've nailed down the

timeline here, you're a true now,

right?

Yes, sir.

CS: So do you recall what year it

would have been that that individual in

exhibit 1 would have --

Probably

CS: Okay. And just so we're clear on

the question about visits, you never went to

the state of Connecticut to look at the

University/UConn for an unofficial visit or

an official visit?

No.

CS: Okay. That's all I've got,

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RR: Okay. And we might have covered

this, I just wanted to ask real quick.

Do -- I know that you said that you never --

that you can’t recall that you ever spoke to anyone

from UConn. Do you know, did anyone from

UConn ever call your family or your parents?

I don't know. I never asked my

dad.

RR: Okay. But to the best of your

knowledge here today --

Yeah. I don't know.

RR: Okay. That's fine.

CS: Let me jump in real quick. How

did your offer get offered to you?

I think it was through my high

school coach. Because at the time, they



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couldn't -- they can't call players, so they

call the high school coach and offered me a

scholarship.

CS: Do you know who from UConn called

your high school coach?

No idea.

CS: He -- your high school coach just

told you, hey, UConn called and --

Yeah.

CS: -- you've got an offer.

Yeah.

CS: Okay.

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Uh-huh.

RR: Okay. And do you know -- is he

still at

I don't think so.

RR: Okay.

Yeah.

RR: Got you. Okay. All right.

just a few last little things here. Thank you

for everything. Was there anything throughout

that time -- I know it wasn't very extensive.

Uh-huh.

RR: Anything through your recruitment

by the University of Connecticut, did anything

give you pause or stick out to you, make you

concerned at all; anything that you can

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No.

RR: Okay. And other than your

coaches and staff here at the

has anyone contacted you about our

interview today?

No.

RR: Okay. Have you told anyone about

our interview today other than your coaches

and staff?

I told my dad, but yeah.

RR: That's fine. You're fine. Okay.

All right. That's -- Clint? Lisa, anything?

LS: I'm good.

RR: Okay. All right.

well, I thank you for your time. It was kind

 

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of short and painless. Not horrible.

Yeah.

RR: There is one last little piece of

information that I do need to go over with

you, okay, just to let you know about some

stuff. So before I do that, though, is there

anything that you'd like to add or clarify to

what we talked about today?

No.

RR: Okay. All right. Then the last

thing I need to tell you is that the NCAA

legislation requires that you help protect the

integrity of this investigation; therefore, as

our investigation continues, we ask that

you're not permitted to speak with others

about what we discussed today or any

information related to this investigation,

except that you may speak with personal legal

counsel if you choose to get them, others




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present in the room, and myself, which always

confuses me because I am in the room, but yes.

Failure to protect the integrity of this

investigation could result in an allegation

that you violated the principles of ethical

conduct and/or the cooperative principle, so

do you understand those statements?

Yes.

RR: Okay. At some point after the

NCAA completes its investigation, someone else

involved as a party in this case or their

attorney, legal counsel, or representative may

request to interview you about matters related

to this case and we encourage you to agree to

speak with them just as you've agreed to speak

with us. However, this doesn't include any

members of the media, okay?

And I understand that that's a little bit

confusing, and I’m not saying that's even going to

happen.

 

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Uh-huh.

RR: If someone does contact you, we

ask you to reach out to or the coaching

staff and they can get in contact with us,

okay? Do you have any final questions for me?

No.

RR: Okay. Then I will note for the

record that the interview concluded at

1:38 p.m. Mountain Time. Thank you, sir.

Thank you.

-- END OF AUDIO --

 

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INTERVIEW OF GLEN MILLER


UNIVERSITY OF CONNECTICUT
NOVEMBER 16, 2017

GM: I just want to put on the


record that this is not --

RR: It's 5:00 p.m. Eastern Time on


Thursday, November 16, 2017, and I'm in the office of
Traystman & Coric in New London, Connecticut. For
the purpose of voice identification, I would like to
ask each person in the room to state their name and
title. And, Glen, we'll start with you.

GM: Glen Miller, assistant director


of basketball at the University of Saint Joseph.

DC: And I'm Tony "Dado" Coric, I


represent Mr. Miller.

AF: Annie Fiorvanti, associate AD for


compliance at UConn.

JT: Joyce Thompson-Mills, associate


director of enforcement at the NCAA.

RR: Brian?

BK: Brian Kappel, outside counsel for


the University of Connecticut.

RR: And Russell Register, one of the


assistant directors of enforcement with the NCAA.
I would like to note for the record
that this interview is being recorded by myself, and
before going on the record, I asked Glen and his
counsel if it was okay to record, and they agreed
that it was; is that correct?

GM: That's correct.

RR: Okay. And I'd like to also note


for the record that we have a verbal agreement with
the institution, who is also recording, to keep their
recording confidential pursuant to the Division 1



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Bylaw 19.5.8. And they agree not to share their


recording with third parties; is that correct, sir?

BK: That's correct.

AF: Brian, you're recording; correct?

BK: I am recording.

RR: Prior to going on the record, I


handed you a form -- or you received a form entitled
the NCAA interview notice form. Did you have a
chance to read that form?

GM: I've reviewed it before. I mean,


I've discussed it and am aware of what it entails.

RR: Okay. Do you understand that the


purpose of this interview is to determine whether you
have any knowledge of or involvement in any
violations with NCAA legislation?

GM: Yes.

RR: Okay. Do you understand that you


may be represented by personal legal counsel, and you
have chosen to do so?

GM: Yes.

RR: Do you understand that NCAA Bylaw


10.1 obligates you to provide truthful and complete
information in this interview?

GM: Yes.

RR: Do you understand that if it is


ever determined that you provided false or misleading
information or withheld information in this
interview, then this could constitute a violation of
NCAA principles of ethical conduct and could impact
your athletic-related duties as a staff member of any
NCAA institution?

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RR: Do you have any questions


regarding any part of the interview notice form?

GM: No.

RR: Did you sign and date that form?

GM: Yes.

RR: So the next section that I'm


going to cover, just general, the protection as far
as the (unintelligible) to immunity. And that's just
for the record for you to acknowledge that you
understand each of those.
Hold on one second.

(Discussion off the record.)

RR: All right. I do -- I have to


note a few things for the record. I want to note
that the enforcement staff requested limited immunity
for the interviewee Glen Miller from the Committee on
Infractions.
I would also like to note that the
Committee on Infractions granted that offer of
limited immunity, including -- that was from
Mr. Gregg Christopher, and that was granted today,
Thursday November 15th from the committee on
infractions.
I would like to note that the
recipient may be represented by personal legal
counsel, and has chosen to do so.
And I would like to explain that the
information recorded today will not impact your
athletic-related responsibilities, and you would not
be subject to disciplinary action per Division 1
Bylaw 19.9.5.4, as long as you report complete,
accurate, and truthful information.
Sorry, that's horrible
(unintelligible). Do you understand that the offer
of limited immunity is contingent on your complete
and accurate disclosure and cooperation with the
enforcement staff?

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RR: Do you understand that if it's


ever determined in this interview that you provided
false or misleading information, that the Committee
on Infractions could revoke your limited immunity?

GM: Yes.

RR: Do you understand that your


limited immunity is only based on past violations and
will not protect you from unreported violations or
future violations of NCAA legislation, action taken
by the institution, or any other entity, or if you --
if your limited immunity is revoked? Is that a yes?

GM: Yes.

RR: Okay. Do you understand that


today is your only opportunity under this offer of
limited immunity to provide complete, full, and
truthful information?

GM: Yes.

DC: Just as a technical point, if you


were to have it as (unintelligible) another day,
because you had questions, this immunity wouldn't
cover that also? So we would just -- I mean, it
sounds like today is the only day. I would assume
that the immunity would cover anything to do with
this investigation starting today.

JT: Yeah. It -- we need to make sure


that we change that because if we do have to get --
sorry. I'm used to calling people coach as well.

GM: Yeah, you're --

JT: So if we do have to interview


Mr. Miller again, so if that -- the nature of that
interview pertains to the actual contents of this
particular investigation, we will reiterate the
immunity agreement again.

DC: (Unintelligible) yes.

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please confirm that you agree to accept this offer of


limited immunity, and that you have signed and dated
the limited immunity acknowledgment?

GM: Yes.

RR: Okay. Thank you for bearing with


me.

DC: And just as well, I think we've


asked for a copy of the transcript, and you said you
would provide us with that.

RR: Yes, yes, sir.

DC: Thank you.

RR: It does take a couple of weeks to


get --

DC: No problem.

RR: -- the transcript, but we will


definitely do that. And just to explain, what we'll
do, is our assistant coordinator on this case, who's
helped us with this case before, will send you an
agreement, and she will send it through our secure web --

DC: Okay.

RR: All right. So just wanted to


ask, coach, I think we kind of know, we've talked
about it before, but if you could, just give us a
little bit of your coaching background, kind of how
everything's spread out.

GM: Well, I was assistant coach at


UConn from 1986 to 1993, and I was head coach at
Connecticut College for six years, and then head
coach at Brown University for seven years, heed coach
at the University of Pennsylvania for three years,
and then back to UConn for the last seven years. And
one or two were -- one or two were director of
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RR: Okay. And so during your time --


this last time at UConn, because you've had a couple
of different stints, what were -- in your words, what
were your duties and responsibilities there in that
position?

DC: After he became the associate


head coach?

RR: Yes. Most -- your most recent


position.

GM: You know, just involved in


everyday operations of the program, recruiting,
practice and game plans, player development, anything
that goes with running the program.

RR: So you touched on kind of a


lot of different aspects of the program?

GM: Yes.

RR: Okay. And so during that last


period that you were at UConn, how many different
head coaches did you work under?

GM: Two.

RR: Two. And who were they?

GM: Well, as associate head coach it


was just Coach Ollie.

RR: Okay. And --

GM: No, I'm sorry -- yes. I worked


for one year as the director of basketball
administration with Coach Calhoun. One year as an
assistant coach for Coach Calhoun. And then the last
-- past five years, as associate head coach for Coach
Ollie.

RR: Okay. And so kind of wanted to


ask, you know, what kind of a supervisor was Coach
Ollie. Kind of -- in that, I mean, how did he run
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divide responsibility?

GM: Well, when it comes to


recruiting, we all have -- all the certified
recruiters have their group of prospective student
athletes they're recruiting. Occasionally there's some
crossover, but by and large, you know, you're
responsible for yours, and he works with you with
your recruits. There is some crossover at times.
We're all in -- we were all
involved in, you know, every other aspect of the
program, so you had daily meetings and -- regarding
practice for organization, game preparation,
recruiting, player development. I was responsible on
the court or being the front-court player coach, and
two other assistants were responsible for overseeing
guard development or (inaudible) development.
And probably up until three quarters
of the way through the last year that I was employed,
I was responsible for scouting reports. And I
received assistance in putting together those
scouting reports from a couple of employees not in
coaching positions, (unintelligible) and Kevin
Freeman, and our video coordinator -- our video guy helped
with that process too. So, you know, it was -- that
responsibility was almost exclusively mine until last
year. And then towards the end of the year, we
divvied up the scouting reports. So each of the
certified coaches would have a scouting report.
So I don't know what else --
generally, that's how things went.

RR: Okay. And so did each coach,


were they expected to have some role in recruiting,
or was that pretty much spread amongst all of the
coaching staff?

GM: It was spread. It was spread.

RR: Okay. Would you describe


Ollie as more an X's and O's guy, or more of a
recruiting guy? Or just -- or kind of both?

GM: Well, he was definitely -- he was


heavily involved in both. He would -- I just
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RR: Okay. And so in that sense, was


he -- is he the type coach that -- was he heavily
involved with your day-to-day, or would he give you
space to kind of do your -- do your work? How did
that work?

GM: Well, we met every day as a staff


-- pretty much every day. We would meet in the
conference room to discuss whether it be, you know,
practice or game preparation, recruiting, or anything
that has to do with the program. We always met
every day, certainly during the season.

RR: So he kept a pretty good pulse on


everything that was going on?

GM: Yes, yes.

RR: Okay. Thank you for giving me a


little bit of that background. I appreciate that.
I want to kind of move into some more
specific questions about some things. I know that
we've talked about we've received some information
that deals with some different things that have
occurred or possibly did occur on the men's
basketball program at UConn.
So wanted to just -- some of these
things I'm going to ask you about who are these
individuals, or you can just tell me, you know, your
best recollection of who they are, and then get into
a little bit more detail.
I want to start with
Can you tell us who is -- who is

GM: He's at now. He's a


student athlete that I recruited probably, I would
say for , roughly , beginning
at (unintelligible) and, you know, terrific
basketball talent, as you know.

RR: And so were you his primary


recruiting -- or who was his primary recruiter?

GM: I was -- I was the point person


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RR: Okay. Do you recall when


took his official visit to the University of
Connecticut?

GM: I don't have an exact date, but


it was -- it was during our --

AF:

GM: Was it during


?

AF: I knew it was

GM: Yeah, okay.

AF: So -- of

GM: I don't have an exact date.

RR: That's okay.

GM: I know we were -- I can tell you


that we -- it was not -- it didn't occur on campus.
He had been up for unofficial visits. For his
official visit, we were playing at the in
and we were staying at the -- over at the

AF: One of those.

GM: Yeah, so he -- he flew in from a


tournament he was in down in Florida, and -- into
, and then he stayed in the hotel in
. So he didn't go on campus for his official
visit -- it's a home site --

AF: Oh, okay, okay.

GM: Yeah, it's -- it's a


, the .

AF: Okay.

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(Unintelligible).

RR: Can you tell us kind of -- to the


best of your recollection, what -- how did his
official visit play out? Kind of what did he do
around that time that he was there? Or on a visit?

GM: There wasn't really much to do.


It was -- my recollection was it was a shorter visit
than usual. The first night he came in, he got in
late. I picked him up at the airport, brought him to
the hotel, got him situated.
The next day was -- I'm trying to
think. I think we had practice, and he went to
practice, and then that afternoon or evening, we had
a get-together with the team at Coach Ollie's house,
and he attended that. His brother and his sister
were on the visit. They attended that.
And then the next day we had an
afternoon game. Gosh, I forgot who we even played,
but he was at that. And then he left to go back to
-- back home after that game.

RR: Okay. So I kind of want to talk


about, and you mentioned it, the -- the time that he
went to Coach Ollie's house. What all -- was that
for a meal or --

GM: Yeah, we had a team meal, a


get-together. It was around the holidays, so it must
have been a pre-Christmas. He normally had a -- he
was on campus, and we were -- I mean, not on campus.
He was in (unintelligible), you know, guys went home,
sometimes Coach Ollie had a get-together at his house
for the team.

RR: Were you there for that meal?

GM: Yes.

RR: For that get-together?

GM: Yes.

RR: How -- how did that all

 

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transpired? Or how long were y'all there for that?

GM: I would guesstimate a couple of


hours, probably no more. It was a quick dinner, you
know. Had to get the guys back to the hotel. We had
a game -- I think it was an afternoon game the next
day.

RR: What was Coach Ollie's


interaction like with during that -- that
meal or that visit? Do you recall?

GM: We -- we got to the house before


the team, the coaching staff did because we normally
go through a presentation, you know, to the recruit
when it comes to an official visit, to, you know,
talk about our program, our plan for him, you know,
the outlook of the future and all those types of
things. So I don't recall when we got to the house,
but we went through all of that, and that was
probably, you know, an hour or so presentation. And
then the rest of the team arrived.
If I can recall, his brother and
sister were at, you know, came -- I gave them a ride
to the house from the hotel before that, and then the
team came, and I would say after that was probably no
more than two hours we were there just eating and
having conversation and, you know, those types of
things. So --

RR: Do you recall, at any point did


Coach Ollie have any one-on-one conversations or time
with during that?

GM: Yes, I'm sure he did.

RR: It's been reported to us that


during that time that there was a call made with
and Ray Allen. Do you know anything about
that?

GM: I think it occurred, yes. I


wasn't in the room, but I think it occurred, yeah.

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GM: Because Dwayne Killings and Kevin


took and to my knowledge they had a
conversation with Ray Allen, yeah.

RR: And --

GM: But that --

RR: I'm sorry.

GM: No, I was just saying I wasn't --


I was there, so I know it happened. You know, I
wasn't in on the conversation. I was not in the
room.

RR: Did -- and just to clarify, when


you say Dwayne Killings, he's an assistant coach?

GM: Yes.

RR: And who was the other individual?

GM: I believe the people in on the


call were Kevin, Ollie, and Dwayne and to my
knowledge, yeah. I'm not sure if -- I don't think
his brother or his sister was in on the call.

RR: And when you say that, you know,


you were aware, did someone tell you that that was
what had occurred, or -- how did you become aware of
it?

GM: Specifically, I don't remember.


I just -- I just know it happened. I don't remember
how it was initiated, but I know it happened. And,
you know, that's all I can -- I don't have any more
specifics than that.

RR: That's fine. And if you don't


recall, we don't mind --

GM: Yeah, sure.

RR: -- passing on it. But to the


best of your recollection, would someone have
probably told you about that or --



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GM: Oh, yeah, sure because, you know,


it's -- we're all on the same staff. We know what's
going on. I just was not in the room for the call.

RR: Okay. Do you know, looking back


-- and if you don't know, that's okay. But do you
remember how long that lasted or how long --

GM: No idea because we had the whole


team at the house, and I was interacting with the
players and other people at the -- at the event.

RR: Did ever talk to you


about that or ever -- no? Okay.
It's also been reported to us that in
addition to the call with Ray Allen that there was
also a call with Mudiay.

GM: I have no knowledge of that.

RR: Okay. Well -- and if you're not


sure, we completely understand, but just want to see
if there's any more information on it. The call with
Ray Allen, do you know if it was just a phone call or
a FaceTime call, or do you know any information about
what type of call it was?

GM: I'm not sure, but I think it was


FaceTime. And -- and I think he posted a Snapchat of
that at the time. So that's why I know -- that's why
I think it was a FaceTime.

RR: Did you see that Snap story?

GM: No, I'm not that -- as you can


tell, I'm on an iPhone (unintelligible) I'm not
technologically advanced.

RR: Since you're aware of it, did


someone tell you that it was posted on --
(unintelligible) phone?

GM: Yes, I -- I couldn't tell you,


but somebody made me aware that he posted it on
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RR: Do you know what that


conversation consisted of at all or what was said
during that time?

GM: No, I just would imagine -- and


it's easy to surmise that it's, you know, encouraging
due to that UConn is a great place and we develop
players and all the success that those individuals
and the program has had over the years, anything that
has to do with, you know, trying to paint a picture
that that would be a great place for as well.
(Unintelligible). That's what I -- we all try -- try
to develop that type of relationship and that type of
picture for a recruit.

RR: But that's not what -- I mean,


you didn't hear any of the conversation?

GM: No, no.

RR: Okay.

GM: I don't know the content of the


conversation at all.

RR: You talked a little bit earlier


that y'all got there early and y'all worked on the
recruiting presentation, which I know is pretty
standard, you know, a lot of programs do that. It
was -- when did that recruiting presentation, when
did -- when was it given during the night?

GM: Before the team arrived, before


the rest of the UConn teammates arrived.

RR: So was there with his


brother and sister --

GM: Yeah, I gave them a ride from the


hotel to Coach Ollie's house, brother and
sister.

RR: Okay.

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over there themselves.

RR: Okay.

GM: To coach's house.

RR: So during that presentation, who


all was there, would you say?

GM: My recollection is, you know,


Coach Ollie, myself, Dwayne Killings, Ricky Moore,
his brother, his sister, and I'm not sure if
any of our non-coaching members were there. I don't
think they were at the time. So that would be -- you
know, Kevin Freeman -- Dave Sevush was there because
Dave, he was -- he's -- had a lot of -- did a lot of
organizational work with, you know, various things
regarding the program, a lot of video work, a lot of
putting the PowerPoint presentations together for
recruiting -- for recruiting visits. He would
coordinate all of that. And typically -- not
typically, but every time that we'd have -- present
to a recruit, he's there to work the -- you know, to
do --

RR: Right.

GM: -- the technical stuff, which


anybody else can do, so he was always involved in
that process and the visits.

RR: It was -- it was reported to us


that during that recruiting presentation, that coach
Ollie made mention of the fact to that he
would set up a FaceTime call or call for him to talk
to former players. Do you recall that at all?

GM: I don't recall -- no, I don't


recall him saying that to during that --
during the presentation. I know he had -- we had
talked about it as a staff prior to the visit to
maybe get on the phone with a former player
like a Ray Allen.

RR: So take me through that. Was


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GM: Yes.

RR: You mean that's something that's


prior to the visit?

GM: Right. So, you know as I said


before, you know, which is (unintelligible). We
spent a lot of time each day talking, planning it
out, whether it be a recruiting visit, who we're
recruiting, practice planning, game planning,
anything that has to do with the program. So my
recollection is something like that would have been
discussed in a meeting prior to the visit.

RR: Do you recall specifically


discussing a call for on his official visit?

GM: I think it was discussed. I


can't -- I don't have, you know, a day and time, the
specifics of the conversation, but I would say it was
-- yeah, it was discussed.

RR: So you recall discussing it --

GM: Yes.

RR: -- but don't remember exactly


when that occurred?

GM: Correct.

RR: Do you recall who initiated that


thought or anything?

GM: No, I don't recall specifically.


I would think that everybody was involved in the
discussion and -- yeah, I think everybody was
involved in the discussion.

RR: Was there any discussion of the


permissibility of that --

GM: No, no.

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conversation, as you recall, did he approve to move


forward with that idea or --

GM: I think he wanted it to be


coordinated, yes.

RR: Do you know who would have --

GM: So the answer would be -- I would


say that he approved it, yes. And I don't recall who
-- I don't recall it being coordinated thereafter
until -- you know, I was at the house that night, and
I know that Dwayne went with -- got Coach Ollie and
and they went off to another room, and that
is my recollection, that the call occurred with that.
I don't think, you know, Ricky Moore was involved,
wasn't in the room. I wasn't in the room. I don't
think anybody else on the staff was.

RR: Do you recall what room they went


into?

GM: No idea. And we were all in the


living room or family -- you know, entertainment
room. So there was a lot -- the whole team was
there. But, you know, at the time I didn't even know
the conversation was taking place. I was interacting
with other people.

RR: So kind of your best recollection


of this, and please correct me if --

GM: Yeah.

RR: -- if I'm wrong. You recall a


staff meeting, not exactly sure when, but it was in
one of those usual staff meetings --

GM: Right.

RR: -- where this idea of a call, or


possible FaceTime call with Ray Allen, between him
and --

GM: Well, now, wait, I would say -- I


don't know that I recall it specifically being a

 

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FaceTime call. I just think I, you know, vaguely


remember -- and we talked -- we discussed a lot of
different things that could enhance an official visit
and, you know, things that could maybe get us over
the top to be in position to secure a commitment from
a recruit, as all staffs do.
So with a player who could be a
one-and-done player, I think the natural -- well I
shouldn't say the natural thing, but I think it was
probably discussed, you know, like Ray Allen, a guy
who -- you know, who are our former players that
could have an -- that the recruit may look up to, may
want to be like, they want to see the same path
themselves in their experience.
So that experience articulated to a
recruit, you know, I think that was kind of the
discussion that probably occurred, and the thought
process from Coach Ollie.

RR: So more of a general conversation


of the possibly being put together?

GM: Possibly.

RR: No specifics?

GM: Right.

RR: I'm going to pause right there on


that particular -- (unintelligible).

JT: Coach Miller, I wanted to back up


a little bit. And you talked about having recruited
for some time. And I wanted to ask you, as
far as recruiting responsibilities, do -- did you as
well as the other coaching staff members at the time
have geographical territories in which you recruited?

GM: Yes.

RR: Okay.

GM: There was no -- you know,


initially, seeing that I was pretty much responsible
for every scouting report, which is a lot of work. A
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reports. You'll do one, and I'll get the next one,


you know, so you have time to recover and to do other
things. But seeing that I took over and was going to
be responsible for every scouting report, initially,
I was just going to recruit the east coast and New
England and metropolitan New York area. I would not
be going out to California or -- and for the most
part, that's what happened.
But other than that, we did not have
specific geographic Regions. If you had a
relationship or a connection with somebody in New
England, if it was one of the other coaches, they
would recruit that player.

JT: Okay.

GM: Yeah, so --

JT: Okay.

GM: That was a longwinded answer to


your question.

JT: No, thank you. And then


regarding this meal, we talked about the -- you
mentioned or you listed the coaching staff members
that were there. I just want to make sure that for
the record we understand all the people that were
there.
So can you just -- I know you
mentioned the entire current men's basketball team,
and I think you said Dwayne Killings, Sevush -- Dave
--

GM: Yeah, so certified -- usually


when a prospective student athlete comes for an
official visit, we have a presentation. It's going
to be the head coach and the three certified
assistant coaches and Dave Sevush, who -- what's his
title, Annie, do you know? Official title --

AF: I don't know offhand.

GM: Head of video --

AF: Video director, yeah.

 

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GM: I don't know, but he's in a


non-coaching position. Like I said, he put together
the PowerPoint and the video and all of that. He was
always in those presentations. Sometimes Kevin
Freeman would be too, and occasionally
(unintelligible), they're in non-coaching positions.
But not all of the time.
And there was also -- there was also
times when not every certified coach was in the
presentation, but more often than not, everybody was.

JT: Okay.

GM: So on that particular day, my


recollection was that Kevin Ollie, myself, Ricky
Moore, Dwayne Killings, and Dave Sevush were there.

JT: Okay.

GM: And not -- I don't think I


remember Kevin Freeman, which he's not really
involved in the presentation.

JT: Okay. And was and his


brother and sister, were they the only -- well, was
the only recruit --

GM: Yes.

JT: -- there? He was the only one?


There weren't any other recruits at this meal?

GM: No.

JT: Okay.

GM: No, no. Not to my recollection,


no. It was his official visit. I don't recall
anybody else for the meal -- for the presentation or
the meal.

JT: Okay. That's it at the house?

GM: Yes.

 

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JT: Okay. Were there any former


basketball -- men's basketball student athletes that
were there?

GM: I don't recall.

JT: And that's fine.

GM: (Unintelligible) but I don't


think so.

JT: Okay. And then I know you


mentioned in your -- in -- just a little bit recently
that you talked about a presentation, and there was a
meal that was provided. What else during
visit at the -- at Kevin Ollie's house, what else
(unintelligible)?

GM: Nothing else would have happened.

JT: Okay.

GM: Just to a quick meal. Again, we


didn't stay long because we had to get the guys back
to the hotel, and we had an afternoon game -- I
believe it was an afternoon game the next day.

JT: Okay.

GM: So it was really not a lot of


activity going on with this visit. It was pretty, I
would say boring, but he had been on campus for
unofficial visits before, so (unintelligible). So it
was one of those visits where it really didn't
involve -- there didn't need to be a lot.

JT: Okay. How many times would you


say that took an unofficial visit before he
actually arrived at -- came for the official visit or
arrived --

GM: You know, over the course of his


time at I don't know. I would say a
handful. And we did get a commitment from his friend
and teammate So he would come up
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So I don't know -- you know, a


handful. I don't have an exact number.

JT: Was there any other occasions in


which actually went to Kevin Ollie's house
that you're aware of other than his official visit?

GM: Not that I'm aware of.

JT: All right.

RR: All right. Brian, do you have


any follow-ups on this particular topic?

BK: I did. Coach -- or I should say


Mr. Miller -- thank you. A couple of follow-up
questions about some verbiage you used and I just was
not clear what it meant -- and maybe I missed
something. But you indicated that during the staff
meeting, Coach Ollie apparently approved the idea of
getting on the line with former players but
wanted it to be coordinated, and I just didn't know
what that word coordinated meant.

GM: If I said coordinated, I don't


know if I necessarily meant that. I just -- you
know, I need to be vague about this because I really
don't have specifics. I just -- it was, you know, a
conversation amongst the staff as we always try to
put ideas together as a staff for a visit or for
different things.
So I vaguely remember that, the idea
of having a former player, like a Ray Allen, speak to
would be a good thing. You know, I didn't
coordinate a phone call, and I don't recall specific
directions for any one person on the staff to
coordinate that phone call.

BK: And I think you hit a little bit


on what I was going for. Coach Ollie didn't say,
you're in charge of putting this together to anyone
on the staff?

GM: I'm sorry, you'll have to repeat


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BK: I apologize. And I think you hit


on what I was trying to figure out, but I want to
make sure it's clear. If I'm understanding you
correctly, Coach Ollie didn't point to any one member
of the staff and say, you're in charge of making sure
this happens or --

GM: My recollection is that he did


not, no.

BK: Okay. And --

GM: I --

BK: Go ahead. I didn't mean to


interrupt. I apologize.

DC: You finish because you were --

GM: Oh, no, I don't think during our


staff meetings -- meeting or meetings, I don't recall
him giving specific direction to any person on staff
to coordinate that phone call.

BK: Okay. And so when you said coach


Ollie kind of approved it or said it might be a good
thing, do you recall specifically what he said or
what gives you that impression that he was in favor
of it?

GM: I don't have -- no. I don't have


-- I just know it was discussed and -- I mean, at
some point if the phone call occurred, he approved
it. And if the phone call occurred at some point in
time, he either initiated the phone call, or somebody
else on the staff did. That's -- and it wasn't me,
so that's the only thing I can tell you.

BK: Okay. Now, you said that Dwayne


Killings was also in the room before the FaceTime; is
that correct?

DC: You said that Dwayne Killings was


also in the room for the FaceTime phone call?

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with Kevin Ollie and -- to my knowledge, that's who


was in the room.

BK: Okay. And again, I think what


we're asking for is kind of your best recollection or
what you fully believe. And so you think -- and I'm
trying to get a complete picture -- that Coach Ollie,
coach Killings and were all in the
room; is that right?

GM: I believe so.

BK: Okay. Was -- was coach Killings


at the staff meeting where the potential for a call
with a former student athlete, was he there when that
was discussed?

DC: He's asking if coach Killings was


at the staff meeting --

GM: Yes.

DC: -- where it was discussed that --


you know, the potential phone call.

GM: To my knowledge, yes, I think the


entire staff was in the meeting.

BK: Okay. And then this is another


point that I didn't quite follow but wanted to make
sure. We kind of -- we got into. Was there any
discussion of looping compliance in to talk about the
permissibility of speaking with a former player? Had
that issue been raised either during that staff
meeting or a previous staff meeting?

DC: Was the issue of whether it was


appropriate -- (unintelligible). Was the issue of
whether it was appropriate to have recruits speak
with a former player ever raised at that staff
meeting or any other staff meeting?

GM: No. Not at that meeting. I


don't recall.

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GM: I don't recall it being -- that


question asked or discussed, whether it was
permissible or impermissible.

BK: Okay. That's all I have right


now, Russell. We'll probably want to follow-up on a
few different things later on.

RR: Okay.

JT: Coach Miller, I wanted to ask


you, do you know of any other occasions in which
might have talked to Ray Allen?

GM: To Ray Allen?

JT: I'm sorry, Ray Allen might have


talked to -- or might have talked to
Ray Allen.

GM: Not that I can recall.

JT: Okay.

GM: I mean, I'm trying to -- I know


on -- what I'm supposed to be doing here, so I'm
trying as hard as I can. I mean, there -- you know,
Ray Allen might have been at a -- a First Night, you
know, one time, which is our equivalent of a midnight
madness. We've got a lot of recruits on campus,
maybe was there. We had a lot of recruits
there. So if you're asking me, you know, has he ever
talked to other than that night, I don't
know. But that could be an example, if he was on
campus that day was there that they did, you
know, but I don't know -- I don't know that.

JT: Okay. Fair enough.

BK: And sorry, I didn't -- Russell, I


don't mean to step in, but, coach, you mentioned a
minute ago that you thought that somebody on the
staff had initiated that call to Ray Allen. It
sounds like there's a possibility they could have had
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was a staff-initiated call, or is that just your


impression?

GM: I think it was a staff-initiated


call.

BK: And what gives you that belief?

GM: Because it was discussed in some


of the discussions we had. I can't remember the
specifics of the discussions, but it was discussed
that, you know, if not Ray Allen, just somebody who
has had a lot of success, and Ray Allen comes to the
forefront of everybody's mind, that he could be a
good guy to talk to

BK: Correct. I understand that.


What I was trying to get at is -- and I think we
already previously covered that you're not quite
100 percent sure about how you learned about the
call; is that right?

GM: Yeah. That's correct.

BK: And so --

GM: It happened in the other room,


and, you know, I was there, you know, and I want to
say they said they had just got off the phone with
Ray Allen. I mean, that's what I think happened.

BK: Okay.

GM: But the coordination of that, you


know, when it occurred, I didn't know it was going to
occur, but I think it happened. That's -- that's the
best I can answer that question.

BK: Sure. And I think what I was


trying to get at was whether or not during the
conversation where you learned about the call,
someone said, hey, Coach Ollie called Ray Allen or
coach Killings called Ray Allen, or if it was just
the call occurred.

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occurred. I could not sit here and say, you know,


who initiated the phone call out of those two. I
don't know.

BK: Okay. Yeah. Thank you very


much.

GM: Okay.

RR: You have anything?

DC: I do not.

RR: Annie?

AF: No, nothing else. Thank you.

RR: Thank you, coach. Let's move on


to a different topic. I wanted to ask do you know an
individual by the name of Dan Cutler or have ever
heard of him?

GM: Yes. Personally, yes. He works


for Adidas.

RR: What is your -- how did you meet


him or do you know him?

GM: You know, I don't know him well,


but I -- you know, when I see him, I'll say hello,
and I'll have conversations with him. But he was --
you know, he's at a lot of the AAU events, certainly
the Adidas AAU event.
So I know that in recruiting -- the
time I spent recruiting that he was somebody
that knew, and I think someone had a
relationship with. I know that he -- because I think
I've seen him before at visiting
there, I know that program, over the course of time
that I was recruiting there, had different shoe
companies that were presenting their product to -- to
the program. You know, every prep school is trying
to secure a good shoe deal. And there's competition
there, and when there's good players, there's more
competition, as you know that's the reason why, you
know, we have what's going on now. So that's how I

 

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know him.

RR: How long would you say that you


-- that you've known Dan?

GM: Of Dan? You know, a couple of


years, maybe two years.

RR: You said that he -- you felt like


when you were recruiting that he had a
relationship kind of established with What
type of -- I mean, the relationship, how did they
know each other respectively?

GM: I don't know. I know -- you


know, I probably became more aware of that
relationship through Dwayne Killings, because I
believe Dwayne Killings is friends with Dan, Dan
Cutler. And, you know, so that's how.

RR: So take me through that. That's


Dwayne Killings, who is an assistant coach --

GM: Right.

RR: Where did you -- how did you find


out that they knew each other, Dan and Dwayne?

GM: Well, as the recruiting process


-- and again, I had been recruiting from the
beginning of his sophomore year at or
thereabouts, and recruiting for years. And Dwayne
joined our staff in the last like year, right?

AF: Uh-huh.

GM: So again, we discussed --


although we each have our own recruits that we're the
point person for, there's sometimes crossover
recruiting. And, you know, if it -- if it can
enhance our chances, certainly we want to have that
involvement from everybody. And so Dwayne seemed to
have some information or contacts with Dan and made
us aware that, you know, there's a connection between
those two. And he had conversations with Dan, so he
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and to myself on occasion as to, you know, what's


going on with and maybe with his brother and
sister and people involved with
My recruitment of was
exclusively -- my interactions were exclusively with
and the coaches at and
(phonetic), who is a big time mentor to
and other youths in He's a
detective. So all of my conversations were with
that small circle. They weren't with
brother or sister or anybody else involved with

Dwayne, I think, brought to the table,


at least, you know, from his perspective, other
information from other people regarding
recruitment. So I think he had conversations with
Kevin, you know, and shared that information with
him, and some of that with me. I didn't -- you know,
it didn't -- I was dealing with the people that I
needed to be dealing with, and that was a small
circle.
So, I mean, I don't know if that
paints a picture of who Dan Cutler is to me or to
anybody, to or to the staff.

JT: You mentioned -- when you talk


about you talk about his brother and sister,
so keep in mind I don't know a lot about --

GM: Yeah.

JT: -- but where are his parents?


Are his parents involved at all --

GM: No. And made it very


clear from the beginning of the process, the
recruitment process, that he did not want his parents
involved in the process. They know very little about
basketball. And he definitely didn't want them
involved until the very end of the process, which
came, and they still were never involved. And he --
that was -- that's the way he wanted it, so I never
tried to contact them because of his wishes.
And was the person in
life that he trusted and believed in, and I
think if I was to, you know, just look at the

 

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picture, probably had interaction with the


parents, and they knew that he was mentor
and looking out for him and all those types of
things.

JT: Okay.

GM: So I -- I totally put all of my


efforts into building a relationship with
And at the time, and again, I don't
have the time frame, but brother was in --
in prison. So I don't think he got out of prison
until the very -- the last year of -- the
last year of and towards the tail end
of his recruiting process. He probably -- if I was
to guess, and again, this is just a guess, he
probably got let out of prison a -- let's just say
two to four months before -- two months before he
came -- before came on his official visit.
So at the very end of the process, yeah.
And Dwayne, I think Dwayne -- and
again, I mean, you would have to talk to him. I
think he knew people that knew brother. I
did not.

JT: Okay.

GM: So he was bringing that type of


information into the process that I didn't have.

JT: Okay.

GM: And that's where Dwayne got


involved, to that degree, that he was able to provide
that type of information that I wasn't really --

JT: Privy to?

GM: Yeah, I wasn't privy to it nor


was I -- I thought I had a really good handle on the
whole process and who I -- who we needed to be
communicating with. And our compliance office, and I
think Annie will attest to this, I mean, I went to
them over the course of recruitment
numerous times to update them and get their, you
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with his transcripts and so on and so forth, numerous


times.

JT: Okay. Does -- you said


was a ?

GM: Yes.

JT: Did he have basketball ties?

GM: Yes. I think he -- you know, he


runs youth programs.

JT: Okay.

GM: (Unintelligible).

JT: AAU? Okay.

GM: I think it's younger, younger. I


don't think he's coaching -- you know, he's coaching
more middle school or younger, younger kids than high
school seniors. It's not like he's coaching high
school seniors. But he's been a mentor to -- in
particular, two guys that I have a relationship with,
and He's a -- a .

JT: And did Rob at all coach


when he was younger?

GM: He might have.

JT: Okay.

GM: I'm not sure.

JT: Okay.

GM: I don't know.

JT: Go ahead.

RR: So you talked about that -- and


correct me if I'm wrong, that Dwayne Killings new Dan
Cutler, that they were friends, I guess, or is that
too far?



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GM: I think they were, yeah.

RR: Okay.

GM: That's how I -- that's how I


looked at it, yes. They had a relationship, a
friendship, and they talked on a somewhat regular
basis, to my knowledge.

RR: Was that built through recruiting


over the years, do you know, or don't know?

GM: I would assume it was.

RR: You mentioned that during the


recruitment of that Dwayne basically gave
information about some context as to and kind
of his life and the people in his life. Was that
from Dan that you were saying that he learned this
information from, or?

GM: Prior to -- I don't have


specifics, but I know that he was getting, you know,
information from Dan. And Dwayne -- you know,
Dwayne's been in the profession for a while, so he
knows a lot of people just like anybody in the
profession does. So, you know, where he was getting
information, whether it was in regards to or
his brother or -- you know, I don't know. I know he
was -- he got information from Dan. And I know that
Dan was somebody that respected and had a
relationship with.

RR: And you're saying -- kind of


relationship with Dan, was that built over
the Adidas sponsored teamed or sponsored events? How
did he know him really?

GM: I don't know.

RR: Okay.

GM: I couldn't -- I couldn't tell you


that.



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RR: Did he ever talk to you about Dan


-- did ever talk to you about Dan Cutler?

GM: No.

RR: Okay. Do you know did -- does


Dan have any association with the University of
Connecticut or --

GM: Not that I know of.

RR: Did you ever see him come on


campus or at an event, to the best of your
recollection?

GM: To the best of my recollection, I


don't remember him being at an event, a UConn event.
My only recollection is of him being at AAU events.

RR: And -- so you never heard -- did


he have any -- was on campus, had any conversations
with current student athletes or any prospective
student athletes?

GM: Not that I can remember.

RR: In this -- in this relationship


with the information that you were getting from
Dwayne Killings that might have come through Dan, did
you ever feel that anything was impermissible that he
was telling you or that there were any red flags or
concerns with anything?

GM: No. Just telling -- you know,


no, no.

RR: So as far as -- to the best of


your recollection and from what you can recall, Dan
Cutler's association with was related to
permissible ways that he could interact with him? So
as far as like AAU teams and Adidas sponsored events,
is that the only interaction, to your recollection,
that probably he had with

GM: To my recollection, I mean, I


think he visited, I think a lot of shoe companies



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visit, you know, But, you know,


that's -- I would think it was all
basketball-related, you know, yeah.

RR: To your knowledge, did Dan ever


encourage to go to UConn or anything of that
nature?

GM: No, not to my knowledge. He went


to

JT: Yeah. At what point -- obviously


you had recruited -- or the staff, you being the
primary recruiting of had recruited
for at least three years, I think you said. So at
some point did you feel or did talk to you
about interests or his interests in
At what point did you feel there was a
shift to maybe leaning a different way as far
as --

GM: Well, came in to the


process late. You know, they came in his last year
of recruitment, to my knowledge. They came in, you
know, in his last year at maybe that
summer before his last year. And -- you know, so
they weren't involved for as long as we were.
You know, in my experience when
comes in on a kid, you had better have --
the way you're going to beat them out is because of a
relationship built over the course of time and trust.
Otherwise, you're going to have a hard time beating
out That's been proven time and time
again.
So, you know, then -- you know, I'm
trying to remember because we got kind of aggressive
-- you might be able to help me, Annie. There was an
opportunity that I forgot -- I forget how it came
about, that he could leave and go to a school second
semester. And, you know, his intentions if he were
to do that, was to go to a school . And
that's what he did. He went to ,
. And so we tried
to pursue that, and then other schools found out that
there might be an opportunity, and did as
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So I don't know if that's -- if that


helps. I forgot how that -- some academically --
what was the NCAA rule? Because we had to check into
it if he would be allowed to do that given his --
that he would be a qualifier, which he ended up being
a qualifier. I discussed this with Krista
(phonetic).

AF: Uh-huh.

GM: And we kind of (unintelligible).

AF: Yeah.

GM: You know, it had to do with being


a qualifier and what he did -- well, because the
quarterly (unintelligible) were changing, so if he --
if he left -- if he went to school second semester,
he would fall under the previous year's -- it went
fall under the 2000 --

AF: Uh-huh.

GM: -- you know?

AF: Yeah, now I do.

GM: So that's -- if he had stayed,


then he would have had to raise his SAT score by a
significant amount, so he would be -- have a better
chance of being eligible and qualifying if he left
and enrolled in school half way through his last year
of They figured it out, and that's
why he left
But when we found that out, we just --
you know, we really tried to put ourselves in a
position where he could commit to us as a new school
(unintelligible).

JT: (Unintelligible). So at the point


that you felt that -- or that you knew that
was going to go to at what point did you
talk to Coach Ollie about that? Or had he been
abreast of --

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JT: -- the entire time?

GM: Yeah, he was up to speed as much


as I was. And I forget how it came in, but I'm
pretty sure that he put a phone call in to coach
Ollie letting him know where he was going.

JT: Okay.

GM: You know, before me.

JT: Okay. Go ahead.

RR: Brian, did you have any follow-up


on this specific area?

BK: No, I didn't. Thank you.

DC: I do not. Thanks, though.

JT: Annie?

AF: No, I don't. Thank you. Nothing


else on that.

RR: I wanted to ask, Glen, a little


bit about Danny Griffin. I think you mentioned him
earlier. Can you tell us who is Danny and what was
his role?

GM: Danny Griffin is from the west


coast. He's from LA. He's -- Kevin Ollie's known
him for years, I think since they were in high
school, went to the same high school, I believe.
Crenshaw high school.
He was in a non-coaching position. I
believe his title -- I think his title was director
of player development or something like that.

AF: Uh-huh.

GM: So.

RR: So in that role as director of


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what was his in charge of?

GM: I don't know what his specific


duties were, but generally a lot of, you know,
off-the-court community service, organizing community
service events for the players, connecting them with
people on campus, you know, academically, maybe just
-- just staying on top of anything that had to do
with off-the-court non-basketball related. That was
what -- generally what he was in charge of.

RR: Can you recall how long -- how


long was he on staff for?

GM: I don't know. Annie, do you


know?

AF: I don't know off the top of my


head, but a couple of years, at least.

GM: The recruitment position was


created for him.

AF: As I understand.

RR: Was he on campus a lot or --

GM: He was on and off. He was -- you


know, I don't know where he was, but he was in the
office and then sometimes he wasn't in the office. I
don't know what his schedule was.

RR: Did he -- did he live in Storrs


or --

GM: I believe he lived in Manchester


in an apartment, I believe. It was (phonetic)
or Manchester, which is 25 minutes away.

RR: And (unintelligible). Did he


split time anywhere, or would it be pretty much
regularly at UConn?

GM: You know, sometimes -- you know,


a lot of times I just -- I wasn't aware of where he
was, if he was in the office.

 

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RR: I wanted to ask -- it's been


reported to us that -- that Danny engaged in some
recruiting activity even though he was a non-coaching
staff member. Do you have any knowledge of that?

GM: The knowledge I have is just that


he's, you know, especially on the west coast,
connected and knows a lot of people, has a lot of
relationships. And during our staff meetings, he
had, you know, had recruiting knowledge.

RR: Specifically, it was reported to


us that he would make recruiting phone calls to
several PSAs. Do you have any knowledge of that
occurring?

GM: I have -- I mean, he gave


knowledge to the staff of information that he got
pertaining to recruits. Did he make recruiting phone
calls? I mean, I don't know who he called. Did he
call -- you know, I can't say that he -- he made
phone calls to prospects. He had recruiting
information that he shared with the staff at the
staff meetings.

RR: So when you say that, in the


staff meetings, did he give you knowledge about
different PSAs that he -- how did he know them? Just
from the the people he knew on the west coast or --

GM: I assume from -- again, he --


again, he's connected. He's a people person. He
knows a lot of people. So through conversations that
he had, whether they were with PSAs or coaches or,
you know, established relationships that he had or
has, I don't -- you know, I don't know. I can't
answer that. I just know that he had recruiting
information.

RR: Can you give us any specific


examples of like what type of information he would
give during those meetings?

GM: I mean, generally, you know, who


was involved with the kids, you know the schools that




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were involved with the kids. Just trying to think.


You know, just things like that, you know, who's
involved with the kids, what's -- you know, what the
kid might be thinking, what the family is thinking,
what a coach is thinking. Maybe some of the factors
in the kid's recruitment, you know, what's going to
sway a kid, what's important, where he's visiting.
You know, anything that would generally have to do
with the information you would be interested in if
you're recruiting a kid.
And a lot of times -- you know, again,
I don't recruit any west coast kids, so a lot of
times you're not taking in all of the information of
those kids. So he just -- he has -- he just had
information like that regarding recruits and some of
the prospects that we were either involved with or we
were trying to be involved with.

RR: And to the best of your


recollection, would you say that he got that from
just the network of people that he knew or --

GM: I would -- I would assume.

RR: Okay. Going back, did you -- did


you ever hear that he made any recruiting calls to
any PSAs, or did you ever witness him making any
recruiting calls to any PSAs?

GM: I didn't witness, but I knew he


made recruiting calls, so -- about how many he made,
I don't know, but he's -- he referenced talking to a
few kids. I couldn't even tell you specifically, but
I'm just -- I just -- you know, he referenced talking
to a few recruits over the course of it.

RR: When -- was that in staff


meetings when he would make those comments, or --

GM: I'm sure on a few occasions it


was probably referenced in a staff meeting. And I'm
sure on some occasions it was probably referenced in
a staff meeting. And I'm sure on some occasions
there were references with another coach on the
staff.

 

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RR: Who -- who would that have been?

GM: I don't know for sure. I just --


I just know, you know, there were probably some times
when it was referenced and talked to -- to
individuals.

RR: If you could -- and I understand


you don't know specifically --

GM: Right.

RR: But if you could get -- or just


try to put any kind of number on it, could you make a
guess at that?

GM: Conversations he had with


recruits? Yeah, I don't know. Just a lot of
information about many kids we were recruiting. I
could be more sure of that than I could
(unintelligible). He definitely called his
(unintelligible). Yeah, I don't think I could, you
know, accurately give that information, you know.
But generally, he had a lot of information about kids
we were recruiting on the west coast.

RR: So just to summarize, you know,


kind of what you said, he had a lot of information
about PSAs that you feel probably came from his
network of people that he knew?

GM: That was -- that would be a


strong assumption on my part.

RR: But you recall during the staff


meetings that Danny had mentioned that he called and
talked to some kids, though?

GM: Yeah. I mean, vaguely I'm going


to say that I'm aware of discussing kids on the west
coast that -- some of the information that he was
giving on a few occasions, without being able to name
all of those people, came from conversations that he
may have had with a PSA. More often than not, I
would say that the information came from, you know,
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a high school coach, an AAU coach, or whoever else


was in that community. That's -- that would be to
the best of my ability, you know, where I think that
information came from sitting there in those meetings
and listening to the conversations.

RR: Do you recall him ever mentioning


in the course of that, you know, I talked to this
PSA, not knowing the name, and we talked about this?
Or do you ever recall him saying that he spoke to a
PSA and then giving some information?

GM: I'm not comfortable with -- I'm


not -- the reason I'm not is because I'm not
comfortable with knowing and being able to provide
exactly who that PSA was.

RR: That's okay. I'm just asking you


in general would you say that you recall that he
talked to on occasions PSAs --

GM: Yeah -- I think he did, but I


don't have those names.

RR: But you recall him saying that he


did speak to a PSA on occasion, even though you don't
recall the exact name of that PSA?

GM: Again, it's an assumption. Danny


had a lot of information and definitely had a lot of
information that we were recruiting in that part of
the United States, so that's the best
(unintelligible).
I mean, if you -- if you -- if you
consider the different kids that we were involved
with or trying to be involved with in his geographic
area where he had his -- his most contacts, I think,
you know, if you were trying to get that information,
that would be -- if he did, that would be who he
would get, I guess is -- you know what I'm saying?
Because I can't -- you know, I can't -- I can't -- I
don't have those -- I can't say that with any
certainty, what those -- who those were.

RR: And I guess what I'm -- and I'm


sorry. I don't mean to beat this down, but just so



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I'll know, you said that you recall that he might


have talked to some PSAs. Do you recall, to the best
of your recollection, him mentioning that he did talk
to PSAs, did make recruiting calls --

GM: I can't say he said that, no.

RR: Okay. So when you say that he


probably did, that's just -- that's you thinking, how
would he have all this information if not for --

GM: Yeah. You would have to have


conversations with people to have the information
that he had, right? I mean, that's recruiting. And
sharing the information that he has, you don't get it
by not talking to anybody in that -- under that
umbrella, PSA, parent, AAU coach, high school coach,
someone in the community who's involved with that
prospect. You just don't get that information.
And furthermore, it's been a concern
or an interest of our compliance office at UConn.
It's -- when he had -- it's no secret he's been on
our compliance office's radar. When I was let go, a
couple of days after I was let go, I was at -- you
know, we had -- compliance wanted to have a
conversation with me regarding Danny Griffin and Boo
Willingham. And that conversation never occurred.
So they were -- you know, those two
individuals were on our compliance office's radar for
whatever reason. And I assume it was the same thing.
So it's -- you know, so without me being able to
provide specifics, if you want that information,
then, you know, I'm sure they've dealt with it or
argued with it.

JT: So in relation to David's job, I


think you said he was the director of -- is it player
--

GM: Player --

JT: -- engagement or player


development?

GM: Same thing.



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JT: Same thing?

GM: -- we don't know really what that


official title is.

JT: Were there -- coach Miller, were


there other coaching -- certified-coaching staff
members -- I know you said you didn't have
geographical territories, but leaned more towards
recruiting in the west coast?

GM: Well, you know, so Karl Hobbs


recruits Karl was the point person
for him when Karl was on staff. He was from
California. You know, Ricky Moore recruits in
California.
So I think initially when the staff
was put together, Ricky Moore enjoined it, so I think
Kevin -- you know, we all thought that, you know, he
has contacts, it makes sense. Wherever you've got
contacts, you know, that's where you're going to
recruit.
So like I said -- so the answer is,
again, we had no geographical boundaries for
recruiting. I, because I did every scout report, was
not in a position to travel everywhere. So I
concentrated more on the northeast and probably more
specifically New England, which the other guys could
be anywhere.
But with that said, you know, Ricky
got really good contacts in Georgia and in that
region. So he tended to recruit more in that region.

JT: Okay.

GM: And we really didn't have --


outside of Coach Ollie being from LA, anybody else
specifically, besides Danny, who was not certified to
recruit, anybody else was from the west coast.

JT: Did -- was Danny issued an


institutional cell phone --

GM: Yeah.

JT: -- that you know of?



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GM: I think so.

JT: Okay.

GM: Do you know, Annie?

AF: I don't know right now.

JT: Okay. Do you know whether or not


he had a non-institutional cell phone?

GM: I can only assume he did.

JT: Okay. Were there any recruits


that UConn landed that Danny was instrumental in,
let's call it, helping the staff get that you know
of?

GM: Well --

JT: Helping the staff --

GM: Yeah, you know, was he


instrumental in us landing I don't
know if he was instrumental. I know that he knew the
family, and he knew Danny's circle and everybody in
the community. You know, whether he was -- he wasn't
even on staff then. I think he joined our staff --
you know, after committed to UConn. I don't
know the time frame, but I just know that when we
were recruiting , he -- you know, he
knows the family.

JT: Okay.

GM: So there is a -- there is


somebody that committed to UConn that he knew from
the west coast.
Who else from the west coast
committed? I'm trying to remember --
(unintelligible).

JT: And I'm speaking more towards


while Danny was on staff --



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GM: Oh, while he was -- yeah, yeah,


that we (unintelligible)?

JT: Yeah.

GM: He knew -- he knew


dad.

JT: Okay.

GM: He sent him to us. He was sent


as a transfer from . Who else? I mean,
those would be -- that would be the one that --
player that committed to us that he knew the family
when he was on staff.

JT: Okay. And do you recall -- and


we keep talking about these meetings, and I just want
to make sure that it's clear on the record, the
meetings in which you're talking about when
conversations are happening with regards to
recruiting are those daily staff meetings --

GM: Pretty much --

JT: -- which --

GM: I mean, we rarely -- we meet on a


daily basis with some exception. You know, we
generally -- we generally meet every day for an hour,
hour and a half, two hours, and I would say -- and a
lot of days, there's some days in that meeting that
we're discussing recruiting.

JT: Okay.

GM: Some days we might not discuss


recruiting in that meeting as a staff, you know. But
then there will be other times when, you know, you
have small -- individual conversations, you know, me
with Kevin or Ricky with Kevin or me with Ricky or me
with Dwayne. But as a staff, we pretty much --
definitely during the season, we meet every day.

JT: And then I think I heard you say,


correct me if I'm wrong, coach, that Danny did attend



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some of those --

GM: Some of them.

JT: -- staff meetings --

GM: Yeah.

JT: -- not all of them?

GM: Yeah, he was absent for -- he was


absent for a ton of them.

JT: Okay.

GM: But he was in -- you know, what


percentage of the time was he there, if I had to put
a number -- percentage on it, I don't know, like,
50 percent of the time. I don't know. He wasn't at
a lot of meetings.

JT: Were there other non-certified


coaching --

GM: Yes.

JT: -- staff members at those


meetings?

GM: On a regular basis, David Sevush


and Kevin Freeman.

JT: Okay. And then did Dave or Kevin


talk about -- if you were talking about a specific
recruit --

GM: Right.

JT: Did Dave or Kevin talk about with


any sort of specificity, knowing a recruit's family
or circle in the manner in which Danny might have
communicated?

GM: No.

JT: No?



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GM: No. On very few occasions Kevin


Freeman knew because he was from the area --

JT: The area?

GM: Yeah. But very few occasions.


And, you know, he played in the AAU program in New
Jersey, so he had a relationship with that AAU coach.
So we might talk -- you know, because he had a
previous relationship with the AAU coach, played for
him, might know something about a recruit that came
out of that program. But those are very isolated
examples.
Dave Sevush was -- he was involved in
every aspect of the program, as far as, you know,
keeping track of evaluations and contacts and our
recruiting board and putting together PowerPoint
presentations and just anything that had to do with
organization on a computer or video or -- or keeping
notes or files on contacts, evaluations. He took
care of all that kind of stuff for the staff.

JT: And then to your recollection in


the meetings that you attended in which Danny also
attended, do you recall at any point in time if Kevin
Ollie instructed Danny to call recruits or recruit's
families or anyone in that recruit's immediate
circle, but anyone in that recruit's circle of
contacts?

GM: Again, it's hard to give the


specifics of conversations, but I do -- you know, he
challenged Danny on a few occasions when Danny was
overenthusiastic about a kid's interest in UConn.
When, I think, Kevin or the staff in general didn't
think we had a chance to get a kid, and Danny
implored Kevin, you know, you've got to call the kid,
you've got to -- you know, if you want a chance at
him, you've got to recruit him hard. Just, you know,
I think you're going to get him.
So Danny was very enthusiastic with
some kids on the west coast that were high-level
recruits and the potential for us to be involved and
maybe secure a kid. So sometimes they -- they, you
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the best I can kind of summarize what I recall those


interactions back and forth between Kevin and Danny
were.

JT: And then how did you, as the


associate head coach at the time, how did you feel
about either the communications or the interactions
that Danny had with either -- either Kevin Ollie or
his contacts in the west coast as it relates to
relationships with recruits in a non-certified
capacity? Does that question -- I know it's
convoluted, but --

GM: Yeah, no. I think it does. I


mean, you know --

JT: Did it make you feel


uncomfortable or --

GM: Yeah, it would be uncomfortable


for me to -- put it this way, if you believe --
you're on staff, you're in my position on the staff,
and there's somebody who's a non-coaching position
and there's any inclination that he might be putting
himself out there making phone calls to people he's
not supposed to be making phone calls to, that could
jeopardize all of us as a staff. So yes, did I ever
have that feeling? Absolutely, 100 percent.
Now, if he in a non-coaching position
through his preexisting relationships and
conversations through those preexisting relationships
just has general recruiting information, that
wouldn't necessarily make me uncomfortable. But I
was uncomfortable at times.
But very early on -- and I don't know
what else we're going to talk about here. There was
-- there was -- there was times when I advised Kevin
that this was probably not a good thing to do for
obvious reasons, and I got a strong impression from
him by his conduct and his interactions after that,
that he didn't want to hear that from me.
So, you know, it was an environment
where, you know, if -- how do you handle that? When
you're dealing with somebody who is very
strong-minded, who almost is looking down at me.
From my experience -- and I've been a head coach for




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17 years, I have a very -- 100 percent clean record,


but I'm not naive either as to, you know, recruiting
and what goes on and those types of things. But
after trying to advise him on certain things, and
there might be some other things that we're going to
talk about, and getting the response, sort of the
feeling from him that I got, you know, it's -- for me
to -- to report those things if he didn't follow my
advice might get him in trouble, sat down for a few
games, and it would cost me my job, and I really
think in the end it did cost me my job.
So I don't know if that gives you --

JT: No, it does.

GM: -- kind of a temperature or a


feeling for the atmosphere when these things
occurred.
And -- and I would imagine that, you
know, some of the conversations and some of the
information that Danny shared with the staff, you
know, was -- was (unintelligible). If you -- you
know, you're talking to your high school coaches.
You know, he played for Crenshaw, and he says he has
a player, I mean, I don't know. There's nothing
wrong with that, is there? Right?

AF: No, I don't think there's


anything wrong --

GM: Yeah.

AF: -- with that. I think it crosses


the line --

GM: Yeah.

AF: -- of a non-certified coach when


you're actually in -- in -- making recruiting calls
--

GM: Absolutely.

AF: -- and actively doing recruiting


--

 

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GM: Absolutely.

AF: -- and you're not certified,


yeah.

GM: Absolutely. And so if there was


an indication of that, and there was at times, that
made me uncomfortable.

JT: When did you coach -- when did


you actually have a conversation with Coach Ollie
about -- I'm just talking about Danny.

GM: Yeah.

JT: About your concerns as it relates


to Danny?

GM: I don't -- I don't have a date.

JT: Okay.

GM: Or a time. I just, you know -- I


mean, everybody -- again, I don't want to keep --
Annie is here. She's just listening. His
inconsistency of being on a job on a daily basis I
think raised questions to a lot of people. And, you
know, with those questions, there was probably a
feeling or a fear that he might have been engaged in
some things he wasn't supposed to engage in.
Now, whether he took place or not, you
know, that's another story. But I think -- you know,
I don't know why else, you know, you would want to
talk to me about Danny Griffin if there weren't
concerns.

AF: Can I ask a question?

JT: Uh-huh.

AF: Outside of those staff meetings


for you and your other certified and non-certified
coaching staff members, would the -- outside of those
meetings, is there anything that you witnessed that
perhaps Danny engaged in or did that -- that has you
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some element of concern?

GM: No. The only element of certain


that I had at times was the potential recruiting
activity, if there was. You know, the potential for
that to have been happening.
And again, I mean, the -- the student
athletes that I was recruiting over the course of
those years, I pretty much operate on my own. I
didn't have much interaction where, you know, Danny
would discuss the kids I was recruiting. He didn't
have contacts or relationships in the area that I was
recruiting. He had zero relationships and contacts
on the east coast and, you know, any of the
northeast, especially.
So I think, you know, I didn't have a
lot of conversations -- we didn't have common
recruits to talk about.

AF: Okay.

JT: Do you have Danny's phone number?

GM: Do I?

JT: Uh-huh.

GM: Yes.

JT: School -- institutional phone or


--

GM: No, no, yeah, cell.

JT: Okay. Can you provide that?

GM: Yes.

JT: To us?

GM: Yes.

JT: Okay. We'll ask you for all of


that --

GM: Yeah, I mean, we have -- I mean,



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we -- to this day, we have -- he sends me information


about job openings, changes in staff. I mean, he's
just -- he's connected. He has a lot of information
on a lot of different things.

JT: Okay. Fair enough.

GM: Yeah.

RR: Brian, did you have any follow-up


on this particular area?

BK: I did, and I hope you guys can


hear me. Mr. Miller, just a couple of things I want
to clarify. And I -- I understand you may not
remember specific dates or times or occasions or what
specifically was said, but what did you tell coach
Ollie on the certain occasions where you raised
issues with Danny Griffin? In other words, was it
warnings, you know, questions about compliance
issues? Kind of give me some idea of what that
conversation sounded like.

GM: You know, there wasn't a lot of


conversations regarding Danny Griffin. You know, I
don't -- I can't give you specifics, but I raised a
concern about the potential for him getting the staff
in trouble.

BK: Okay. And you raised that with


Coach Ollie on -- again, I'm not looking for
100 percent specifics, but to your best recollection,
how many times?

GM: Once -- once, twice. Not many.

BK: Okay. Did you talk to anyone


else at the institution about Danny Griffin?

GM: Just -- just other guys on staff


on occasion. Nobody -- nobody in compliance, no --
you know, no. Just our immediate staff.

BK: Okay. And that would be other


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GM: Yes.

BK: Anyone, to your knowledge, raise


any further concerns or other issues that might
relate to Danny Griffin? In other words, did anyone
let you know that they had additional issues with
him?

DC: To the best of your knowledge,


did anybody else -- you raised a concern. Did you
hear from anybody else that they had issues
(unintelligible) that you had?

GM: I mean, I think everybody had,


you know, some concern that if he -- if he had
involvement, you know, it wouldn't be a good thing
for any of us.

BK: Okay. But aside from that


general concern, anything in particular that somebody
else conveyed to you that was related to Danny
Griffin engaging in specific recruiting activity?

GM: Well, again, I mean, you guys


might be a little frustrated, it's just hard for me
to give specifics. But, I mean, I know Danny, he had
more conversations about kids that other guys on our
staff -- other coaches on our staff were recruiting.
They had -- there was a commonality.
And, you know, I keep -- he was -- he
didn't have any contacts with my recruiting, so when
he was talking recruiting, I think Ricky and Dwayne
in particular had many more conversations about
recruits because Danny had more significance on kids
they were recruiting as opposed to me. I wasn't
involved in those conversations, didn't -- didn't
take an interest in a lot -- those conversations or
the content of those conversations.

BK: Yeah, I -- I fully understand


that. I was just wondering if either Dwayne or Ricky
had passed along other information or specifics about
anything that they had concerns about regarding Danny
to you.

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them.

BK: Okay. And just one other thing


that I wanted to clarify because I wasn't entirely
clear on it. You mentioned two recruits names,
and And it sounded to
me as if Danny Griffin knew the families for both of
those recruits; is that right?

GM: I believe so, yes.

BK: Okay. I just want to make sure


that that was your understanding as well because I
didn't quite hear that 100 percent clearly. All
right. That's all I have.

GM: Yeah, no, the question I was


asked, I think, was, do I know if any kids that
committed to UConn, if Danny had an influence over
their commitment to UConn. And I think my answer
was, I don't know he had an influence, but I do
believe he had a relationship or knew the familiar
lips of both of those kids. So in an effort to try
to answer that question and come up with anybody that
he might have, you know, been involved with to the
extent that he knew the families, those are the two
that I can think of.

BK: Okay. And I think you've already


answered this, but just to be clear on the record,
you don't have any specific knowledge of any
influence or any type of improper contacts with
either of their families; is that right?

GM: No, not specific, no.

BK: All right. Well, I appreciate


that. Thank you.

GM: You're welcome.

RR: Annie?

AF: Yeah, just one question. When


they did get to campus, and Danny --
both came, obviously, as student athletes to



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UConn, and both are no longer there. But when they


came to campus, was -- did you notice that Danny
Griffin was more connected with them or was it
evident that he had potentially had a previous
relationship with those guys?

GM: Yes.

AF: All right.

DC: I have no questions.

JT: Following up with what Annie


said, had in what way?

GM: He knew the parents.

JT: No, I'm sorry. I probably was


not clear. Did both and did they
gravitate and talk to Danny more when they arrived on
campus?

GM: It was just clear that he knew


them on a personal level. I mean, I don't know that
-- because they talked to everybody on the staff, I
don't want to say actually, but I would say that it
stood out that they spent more time with him than
other members of the staff. I couldn't say them all,
but clearly he knew the families from, you know, a
preexisting situation, whether it be AAU or --

JT: Okay.

GM: -- the community or -- you know,


I don't have an answer, but I just know that they
knew each other before they came to campus.

JT: Okay.

RR: Just wanted to -- you've actually


already mentioned this, but just to make a transition
here, I wanted to ask you about Boo Willingham. Can
you tell me how you know Boo? What is Boo's
connection to UConn?

GM: When I was on staff, '86 until



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'93 as assistant coach to coach Calhoun, Boo was a


player. He was a teammate of Kevin Ollie's at UConn,
and so that's how I first got to know Boo.
Now, since returning to UConn in 2010,
'11, he -- he's a good friend of Kevin Ollie's. He
-- you know, he comes around I think some games, you
know, every once -- you know, just visits the campus
once in a while. He's around. He goes to different
UConn events, golf tournaments, so on and so forth.
He's a UConn guy.
He was a mentor. And again, I mean, I
think UConn compliance has probably already been down
this road, covered this, and got the answers that
they needed to get regarding his involvement and
relationship with a kid we recruited and
received a verbal commitment from. And he -- you
know, he would accompany on -- I think one or
two times when he visited campus at UConn. I believe
that was clear.
You know, again, I can't speak for
that, but, you know, when went to
for a short period of time, Boo got to know
a little bit.
So, you know, he's -- he's -- my
conversations and interactions with Boo are just, you
know, when I would see him on some occasions, I was
an assistant coach, and he was a player. He's a
former UConn player. He's a great guy. But he's a
close friend of Kevin Ollie's, and, you know, as far
as his connection or involvement with prospects, he's
definitely connected to (Unintelligible).

RR: So tell me about What


exactly was his connection and relationship with

GM: You know, a troubled kid. Didn't


have a father. Had a troubled upbringing. You know,
had an individual -- I forget the guy's name -- that
he lived with for a while. I don't know if -- what
Boo's involvement or relationship was with the AAU
team that played for, but I think Boo just
provided with a mentor, somebody who was trying
to help him do something with his life, and he
desperately needed that type of support.
I don't -- I think we went through



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this before, whether he was actually an AAU coach or


wasn't or was a mentor. I don't have those answers.
You know, those are all things I think Kevin Ollie
had to deal with our compliance office. Boo -- Boo's
(unintelligible), so.

RR: You said before that he would


accompany on was it unofficial visits that
took to UConn or --

GM: He took -- did he definitely take


an official visit? Do you know?

AF: I don't recall. I don't think


so, though.

GM: You think they were just


unofficials?

AF: Uh-huh.

GM: He's definitely been once. He


probably came a couple of times on campus.
Definitely once.

AF: Yeah.

GM: Whether it was unofficial or


official, but I think it was unofficial.

AF: Uh-huh.

RR: Do you know if Boo provided any


help as far as like transportation cost or lodging or
meals or anything on those unofficial visits for

GM: Well, I can -- I'm --


transportation, I don't -- via a vehicle to get to
campus, I don't -- I have no information. Or whether
he provided air transportation or a hotel, I don't
know.

RR: Did you see them driving in the


car together or just arrive at the same time or --

 

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GM: No, I can't say I did.

RR: You mentioned that -- that he


also had a relationship or new

GM: Yeah.

RR: How did that come to light? Did


tell you about that or --

GM: No, just, you know, I -- you


know, Boo was at a game or a scrimmage one time --
you know, Boo was excited about us recruiting
Obviously when was there for a period
of time, they were teammates. So just general
conversations.

RR: Did you ever --

GM: Like I never picked up the phone


to call Boo nor did he pick up the phone to call me
to discuss recruitment. Just when we had
a, you know, an interaction that just happened to --
that wasn't, you know, prearranged. You know, he
might say something, I might say something. I don't
know. You know, how is How did he play?
You know, whatever. Just general conversations. And
was not at for a long time.

RR: Do you know -- during the time


was at would -- I think you said that
Boo kind of served as like a mentor or -- did he --

GM: So he served as a mentor long


before he arrived at I think that
relationship probably began before it. I mean, there
is other people that can -- can give you more
information about their relationship than I can.

RR: Do you know did Boo ever provide


with financial support or --

GM: I don't know. There was another


gentlemen that, I believe, did. Boo was connected
with the AAU program (unintelligible). He didn't
coach the team, he just was involved with the team,




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the team.

RR: Who was that individual?

GM: I don't know. I don't know who


it was.

RR: So you said before, we talked a


little bit about it, so knew Boo and did you
ever see them talk, or did you hear that they had
talked? How did you find out about that?

GM: I just think, you know, Boo -- I


don't know. When we talked, he had talked to
because he was down at back then a few
times. You know, Boo is going to talk to guys that
are in the gym. He's a -- he's a basketball guy, so
if he's at an event or a practice for someone he's
mentoring, he's going to talk to players.

RR: So he never -- I think you


mentioned this before, but just to clarify, so he
never told you, I talked to when he would
ask you about

GM: Oh, I'm sure -- I'm sure that he


said he talked to

RR: Okay.

GM: Yeah. I just -- I can't -- I


mean, those are -- I don't have specifics on the
conversation, but I'm sure he told me he talked to
I was at the gym the other day, whatever.

RR: Do you recall how many -- how


many times he might have had a conversation with

GM: No.

RR: I think you said that Boo would


attend some events and some games, some UConn games.
Did -- did you ever see him talk with recruits that
were there for those games being on unofficial or
official visits?

 

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GM: I can't say I get -- it's common


for us to have recruits at games and events, whether
we're actively recruiting them or they're a prospect
interested that coach wants to come to games and
provide them tickets. So is it possible that he or
anybody else that's attending games sitting in that
general area would say hello to a recruit, I assume.
Do I recall specifically making an effort to go talk
to recruits, I can't say. Especially at games, I'm
so occupied with the game, I'm not concerned with,
you know, what's going on behind the bench or at
halftime or even postgame. I'm, you know, in the
locker room, you know (unintelligible), so I can't
say those conversations -- a conversation happened
between them.

RR: Do you recall, did --

GM: With someone like Boo who we


considered, you know, a former player. It's not like
he's an agent coming in. And again, my understanding
is that Boo and his, you know, whatever involvement
he had with was vetted by Kevin Ollie and our
compliance at some point in time.

RR: We've talked about his


involvement with and then that he also
knew through his visits to
You told us that you had spoken with him. I'm not
going to guess how many times --

GM: Yeah --

RR: -- but you had spoken to him


before. Was there any other prospective student
athletes or recruits that Boo mentioned to you that
he had talked to or that he had formed any impression
about?

GM: No. Again, he's another guy


who's -- he was a basketball guy. He's involved with
youth. He's going to know people in his community
and his geographic area, you know. So I don't have
specifics, but if he told me, you know, he talked to
this kid or that kid in his community or knew about a

 

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player, I would say, well, you know, that doesn't


surprise me. A lot of people know about players and
discuss players. And, you know, whether they take it
beyond that and make recruiting phone calls is
another story. I don't have any direct knowledge of
any of that with him.

RR: Do you know did he ever have any


conversations with Kevin Ollie about and

GM: I'm sure --

AF: Who is he?

RR: Oh, I'm sorry. Boo, Boo.

GM: I assume that, yeah.

RR: Can you recall --

GM: He was on a visit with --

RR: Right. Did you and Coach Ollie


ever talk about, you know, Boo's feedback or, you
know, anything that Boo might have talked to him
about concerning those two PSAs? And I mean and

GM: Yeah, he was always concerned


with feedback and back and forth with Boo regarding
because he was -- he's a high-risk kid.
If you're going to bring him into your program, you
had better have a will the of support for him
emotionally because of his background. So if you're
willing to commit to a kid like that, again, it would
be potentially professional suicide if you didn't
have good support for him with some of the things
that might happen on campus.
And we were all aware of that, and
probably more aware of that through conversations
with Boo, which, you know, I don't have the
conversations of those conversations -- specific to
those conversations. But definitely had those
conversations with him.



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RR: And I think that you -- you


mentioned this, so I just want to clarify. But did
-- we know that -- you said that Boo accompanied
on how many unofficial visits? You didn't say.

GM: Yes.

RR: Can you recall how many times?

GM: I can recall one. There might


have been another.

RR: But you're not sure, or do you


know did Boo finance those trips, provide any
transportation or anything like that?

GM: I don't know. If I were to make


an assumption, my assumption would be that either Boo
or the guy responsible for the AAU program got --
paid for his expenses because I don't know how else
he would get to campus. I -- it definitely would not
be a family member. The situation, that wasn't
happening.

RR: Okay. Do you know is Boo based


out of Storrs, or do you know where he resides?

GM: That -- that is a question that I


don't have an answer. I just -- I think he spent
time or has family in Atlanta. I think he might be
working or spending time working for a big dollar
booster at UConn. I'm not sure of that. These are
the things that I have been told without specifics.
But he could have spent time in Florida. I don't
know if anybody really knows exactly what Boo does.
I don't. I just know he's a good guy, and he's a
people person, and he's probably in different places
at different times, all of which, I'm not sure. But
those are some of the things I've heard.

RR: Who is that big donor, that


booster that you mentioned?

GM: Peter Werth. The practice


facilities named after -- in his name. He makes a
lot of money, and is very -- very involved in



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supporting and attending basketball, men's and


women's, games.

RR: Do you know what their connection


is or what their relationship is to Boo --

GM: I, I don't know. You know, he'll


-- played golf tournaments, UConn golf tournaments.
You know, UConn events that involved golf, he would
show up and be with people that were -- that -- I
believe at the very least, they had a friendship.
Either he liked to spend time with him here or
working for him. I don't know that -- if that's true
or not. Those are things, you know, I just heard. I
can't confirm.

RR: Do you recall who told you about


that?

GM: No. Just -- no. Some


information like that is just common, you know,
knowledge. Like different people mention it here and
there.

RR: I wanted to ask, you do you know


an individual by the name of Wayne Tolson?

GM: Wayne Tolson, I believe, is a


friend of Kevin Ollie's. I don't know exactly what
-- I don't know if he's a financial guy, if he's a
community organizer. I'm not sure what he does, but
he's a friend of Kevin's.

RR: Have you ever met him?

GM: Yes.

RR: How many times would you say?

GM: I don't know, like every once in


awhile he would visit campus.

RR: He's based out of Storrs, or --

GM: I believe he was in Connecticut


at some point. (Unintelligible). Every once in



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awhile he will attend practice. I think he does some


work for Kevin. What exactly that work is, I'm not
sure.

RR: Is it possibly financial-related?

GM: If I were to guess, I think he's


-- does some financial work for Kevin personally --
personal work. I don't know if he's an accountant.
I really don't know. But he's a friend of Kevin's,
and I think he does some work for Kevin.

RR: And you said that he came to a


couple of games or he --

GM: He's -- he's come to games. I


don't know how many games. He's a friend of Kevin's,
so, you know, that's Kevin's circle. Like if he's
around, you know, I'll say hello to him, be cordial
to him. I don't know a whole lot about him beyond
that.
But he's been around plenty of times,
you know. Every week, no. But he's gone to games,
he's come to practices. I think he's been at some
events, you know, golf tournaments or whatever. He's
a friend of Kevin's.

RR: Do you know if he and Boo were


acquaintances or did they know each other?

GM: They definitely know each other.


I don't -- again, I can't tell you the extent of
their relationship, but they definitely know each
other.
You know, both of those guys are close
to Kevin, you know, so they happen to know each other
and may have even spent time together.

RR: It was reported to us that Boo


helped facilitate a meeting between Wayne and
Do you have any knowledge about that?

GM: Definitely happened. Kevin told


me, and I forget when. It was sometime during
recruitment, towards the tail end of his
recruitment, that -- I don't know how the meeting was



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organized or how it happened, but Kevin had


meet with somebody to discuss -- to my knowledge, to
discuss potentially purchasing insurance. You know,
how if you're projecting (unintelligible) pick or
first-round draft. I don't know what the conditions
are to be able to purchase insurance that will cover
you for a career-ending injury. But to my knowledge,
that's what that meeting, when it occurred, was
about.
So if -- and it was with somebody who
Kevin had a relationship with. It could have been
Wayne Tolson if that's what he does. I don't know
100 percent if it was Wayne Tolson, but it was with
someone for that purpose.

RR: So other than Kevin Ollie, do you


know that Boo was involved in that as well, or -- in
setting that meeting up?

GM: I don't know. I don't know


either way.

RR: But you said you recall Kevin


Ollie mentioning such a meeting taking place?

GM: Yes, yes. When he mentioned


that, the date, I don't know. I don't have that
information. But he definitely mentioned it like it
was a good thing. And acts of service with his
buddy, you know, as you're building a relationship
with a recruit, that -- you know, it was something he
wanted to provide for the kid. Some of the things
Kevin does or did are a product of his experience as
an NBA player for 13 seasons, you know, that type of
knowledge that he has and things that he might think
are important for a kid like that.

RR: Do you recall -- did he let


compliance know about that or --

GM: To my knowledge, no. To my


knowledge, I don't know. I would guess not. I don't
know either way.

RR: Do you know -- did he mention


where that occurred or --



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GM: No.

RR: I want to jump back and just ask


a couple of other questions. As far as Boo's
relationship with Peter Werth, are you aware of any
-- any recruiting -- any information on recruiting
that would come from that relationship?

GM: No. I would not have an example.


I think any -- any of that would be speculation. So
could it have occurred? It could have, but I don't
have direct knowledge of that, of any of that.

RR: And then we talked about, you


know, his involvement with recruits. We mentioned
specifically of course, and then
Do you have any other recollection where he had any
specific involvement with a recruit, a UConn recruit?

GM: No, no not to my recollection.

RR: Did ever mention to you


during the time you were recruiting him about any of
the conversations he had with Boo?

GM: No. (Unintelligible). I think


all of my conversations with you know, he's
very close to the vest, and he just feels that the
first thing (unintelligible), and there's not a whole
lot of conversation about anything else that's going
on. So no, we just had that type of relationship,
which was very, you know, one-on-one, you know,
personalized to each other.

RR: So did he mention that -- I know


that Boo was linked to Do you know
-- did Boo specifically say that he talked to
while he was there? Do you recall?

GM: Yes. He's -- yes. He's -- yeah.


When he was there, I'm sure he said, you know, hey, I
was at today, you know, saw
talked to Yeah, I'm sure that happened.

RR: Did he ever give you any



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indication as to what he said in those conversations,


or what they kind of talked about?

GM: Yeah, I don't know. If he did, I


don't recall the content.

JT: Coach Miller, I wanted to talk to


you -- going back to for a few minutes, if
you don't mind. What's status right
now?

GM: Gosh, who knows? I mean, he's --


he -- he basically -- when he left he
went back to a public high school, and then ended up
committing to We got him to verbally
decommit from us publically.

JT: Oh, okay.

GM: But I think, to my knowledge,


again, I think Kevin in conjunction with Boo, tried
to encourage and help him to find his way even
though he needed to decommit. When we had him
decommit, I think Kevin was still open to him
recommitting down the line if he was to go back to
to school, whatever school that was, and do
what he needed to do academically and socially and
get himself on track.
And I do believe -- I shouldn't say I
do believe. I know Kevin had a conversation or
conversations with a teacher or principal or both at
the school, public school, to get a progress report
on how he was doing after he left and
we had got him to decommit.
And then he ended up committing to
and then he got for,
you know, -- I'm not sure
exactly. And so that ended there. And I don't know
where his life is right now. I'm sure he's not doing
good.
And that was the whole -- you know, we
-- you know, had a relationship with the coach at
and so, you know, had a conversation
-- although I was not the point person, nor was I
involved really at all with recruitment,
I was -- I did have conversations with coaches at

 

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saying, hey, Coach Ollie, Boo


Willingham, you know, this is a mentor of Boo
Willingham. He's the guy you need to talk to, you
know, if you're looking for a player. This kid is
very talented. He needs a chance. He needs to get
out of . You know, so that was the extent of
my involvement --

JT: Okay.

GM: -- with

JT: Okay.

GM: So I don't know what his status


is right now, where he is, what he's doing. I don't
know. I don't know.

JT: Okay. At any point in time --


who was his primary -- who was primary
recruiter at UConn? If he -- or did he even have one
--

GM: -- if I was to, you know, guess,


it might have been Ricky, but it was more -- I think
that was more, you know, one of those where the head
coach -- because Boo Willingham is a good, good
friend of Kevin Ollie.

JT: Okay.

GM: They're very close. So if -- if


there was a point person, it may have been Ricky, but
I think that the recruitment was probably dominated
through the interaction with Kevin and Boo.

JT: Okay. Do you know whether or not


anyone on the men's basketball coaching staff
provided any sort of financial assistance to either
Boo, or that AAU coach in where --

GM: Yeah, I don't think it's -- I


should -- (unintelligible) street, like, I don't know
what he does. Something selling -- like a ticket
broker or whatever.




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JT: Oh, okay.

GM: He sponsored it.

JT: Oh, okay.

GM: (Unintelligible).

JT: Okay.

GM: I'm not aware of any financial


assistance from anybody on our staff to Boo or to
that individual --

JT: In relationship --

GM: -- in relation to any of them --

JT: Okay. Okay. Do you know whether


or not anyone -- maybe I asked this question. Do you
know if anyone provided -- on the men's basketball
coaching staff provided any financial assistance to
specifically?

GM: No, I'm not aware of any --

JT: Okay.

GM: -- any assistance, financial


assistance.

JT: Okay.

RR: Brian, did you have any follow-up


on this area?

BK: No, I didn't. Thanks.

AF: No, but thanks.

DC: I do not. Thank you.

RR: I wanted to ask you, Glen, about


Markelle Fultz. Do you -- do you know -- who is
Markelle? Do you know Markelle as someone --

 

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GM: (Unintelligible). Was a very


talented player that I used to watch. Don't know him
individually. We never had a conversation.

RR: Do you know if he ever had any


association, to your knowledge, with UConn?

GM: To my knowledge, no. I mean, we


always -- not when I was there. But with Raphael
Chillious, he recruited him to Washington, and they
have a relationship.

RR: And Raphael Chillious is the


current assistant coach at UConn?

GM: Associate head coach.

RR: Associate head coach.


And what about Dwayne Killings? Does
he have any connection with Markelle that you recall?

GM: I don't know that one. Not that


I'm aware of.

RR: What about Do you


recall that name?

GM: I just know that UConn recruited


him, and other schools recruited him, and he ended up
committing to

RR: Do you recall who his recruiting


coach was at UConn?

GM: No. I was gone.

RR: Okay. So do you -- it was


reported to us that there was some type of
involvement between Dwayne Killings and to
try to recruit to UConn. Are you aware of any
of that activity?

GM: Well, I'm aware that we recruited


him. Is that what you're asking?

RR: Well, do you know -- or are you



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aware that Dwayne Killings asked Markelle to help


recruit

GM: Dwayne, no. I'm not -- no. I


don't think -- why would -- I would -- I would guess
that Raphael Chillious was the recruiter for him,
yeah.

RR: So did you ever hear that Raphael


Chillious had -- you know, tried to get Markelle
involved in recruitment? Or any coach from
the staff tried to get Markelle to be involved in
recruitment?

GM: That's been mentioned by various


people.

RR: What did you hear about that?

GM: That -- that lots of folks


contacted the recruit --

RR:

GM: Yes, To help him


recruit.

RR: Do you recall who told you that


or where you heard that from?

GM: Different people. I don't -- I'm


not comfortable with giving, you know, names and --

DC: It's a situation where he doesn't


have firsthand knowledge. It's stuff that he's just
generally heard from people he knows or people he has
relationships with. He just has assurance (sic)
about repeating that stuff. It's not firsthand
knowledge. It's not something he said, you know, I
heard this.
So it could potentially ruin a lot of
relationships for Glen. If he had firsthand
knowledge or somebody said, I was there or I did it
or, you know, I was there, he would have no problem
giving you that information. But because this is
just, you know, talk, if you will, it's something



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that he would prefer not to divulge who he heard it


from.
But it's not information that -- you
know, the person who told him was -- had firsthand
knowledge of. It's something that's basically come
through a chain --

GM: If I can (unintelligible) prove


it to you as fact, then I'll do it every time. But
as he said, I'm (unintelligible).

JT: Okay. That's it.

RR: So in that, and you might have


already explained it, what you heard, but what exactly
were you made aware of? What exactly was said about
that recruitment?

GM: That they were using Markelle


Fultz to, you know, influence the kid to make a
decision to come to UConn for, you know, different
reasons, development, guys have gone on to play in
the NBA, and that they wanted to use Markelle Fultz
to help work out a -- a Nike deal for the AAU team
that played for.

RR: When you say, they, was there a


specific UConn coach that was involved with it, or --
were any specifics given?

GM: Well, if -- with that -- with


somebody giving, you know, talking about that kind of
thing, it would be Raphael Chillious because, you
know, if they're using Markelle Fultz, he has a
relationship with him. So I would assume that that
would be -- that's why I assumed he's the coach.

RR: So when they said -- with


Markelle, do you recall if they mentioned would he
make calls to or did he ever talk to him in
person, ever have any contact with him?

GM: Yeah, I don't know.

RR: As far as the Nike deal, was


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trying to work out?


But the information that was given was
that the Nike deal, Markelle was helping him
establish that for the AAU team --

GM: That's the way I interpreted it.

RR: Okay.

GM: It would benefit the AAU team.


So whatever AAU coaches that UConn was dealing with,
that's who would have -- that's who formed a shoe
deal. I don't know what company they're with. I
don't know what their status was, if they're trying
to get a new deal. It's very vague.
(Unintelligible) the conversations,
you know, that information in conversations.

RR: Was it'd alluded to that that


deal though was to influence to then recruit
to UConn?

GM: Well, my knowledge -- not my


knowledge, but things I hear -- and again, with a lot
of these questions you're asking, whether it be Danny
Griffin or any coach or any person involved in the
basketball world, you know, there's a lot of talk.
It's like, what's fact, what's fiction, and all of
that, you don't know.
But the relationship, he ended up
going to The relationship, I think, with
was a strong one built with . The
relationship with UConn was one built with the AAU
coaches not the mother. So I think in the end what
won out was a relationship with mom.
(Unintelligible).
So, you know, it's not like I lose my
job, and I stop talking to people who call me on the
phone, you know. So that's true with everybody. So,
you know, this world of college basketball, you hear
-- you don't seek things, you hear things. And so,
you know, something like that, that's -- I'm not an
investigator. When somebody says something, you
know, give me facts, give me this, how did it happen,
what's the date, what's the time, I don't really
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And as you're seeing with all the FBI


stuff, it's like, you know, when -- you know, if we
lose a recruit and someone on our staff says, well,
we lost them because they paid for them, I don't
really put much stock or weight into that because
they're probably not recruiting that way, and I'm not
going to lose my mind over things that are happening
like that, if they're happening -- you know they're
happening, just to what extent, you don't know. And
when you accuse somebody of paying for a player, I
don't have facts on that, you know, so I don't -- I
don't seek any further information.

RR: And do you know -- was


was he ever involved -- or did you hear that
he was ever involved in recruitment of another PSA
for UConn?

GM: Can you repeat that?

RR: Sure. Was -- did you ever hear


if -- excuse me, Markelle Fultz, if he was
ever involved --

GM: Yeah. Sorry.

RR: You can answer.

GM: Okay. That threw me off. No, I


have not.

AF: No.

DC: Nothing.

RR: Brian, did you have any further


follow-up on that area?

BK: Yes. I apologize for asking


this. I want to make sure I understood the last
question and the answer. Was it that you did not
hear that Markelle Fultz was involved in recruiting
or that you did?

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BK: Okay. And I -- I am sensitive to


you not wanting to divulge who you were discussing
this situation with, but was this somebody who had
actual knowledge themselves or was repeating message
board chatter -- I call it message board chatter --
or was it something more substantive that was backing
up all of these conversations?

DC: As I said before I interjected,


if he had -- if he had spoken with somebody who had
personal knowledge, then he would divulge that.
These are people who did not have themselves personal
knowledge, so it was basically rumors that somebody
else had heard that was passing it on to Glen. It
wasn't somebody who was part of it or knew firsthand
that it had happened or --

BK: Okay. That helps clear up that


particular issue. I don't have anything further,
thank you.

RR: Does anyone need a break?

DC: If you guys want to take one,


feel free.

GM: I'm good. I mean, it's up to you


if you need to take a break. (Unintelligible).
You have any idea how much longer
you're going to be?

RR: I don't, no.

DC: If you guys want to keep on


moving forward, that would be great. How about you?
You okay?

AF: Uh-huh, I'm good.

DC: You need anything else to drink?

AF: No. I've got my coffee. I'm


good.

DC: He's got somewhere to be later


on, that's why --



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RR: (Unintelligible) yes.

JT: That will be fine.

DC: Well, hopefully should not --


(unintelligible) Well, you were starting and stopping
and he needed to be somewhere by 4:00, but that's not
going to happen. (Unintelligible) but whenever --

JT: Okay.

GM: We'll just do the best we can,


yeah.

JT: Okay.

GM: I know you guyed travelled here.


If we could get it all over with today, that would be
great.

RR: Okay. So I just want to switch


gears here. I wanted to ask about Bret Just. Do you
recall who that is?

GM: Yes. That's the -- he was Kevin


Ollie's agent.

RR: It's been reported to us that he


was relieved as Kevin Ollie's agent, are you aware of
that?

GM: Yes. Kevin made me aware of that


the morning that he relieved me of my --

RR: Do you know why?

GM: Well, I had a conversation --


yes, I do. I had a conversation with Bret. I don't
-- the only thing I can't recall, and I can easily
find it out, whether I -- I can't remember if he
called me or I called him, but it was -- you know, it
was just a couple of days after. I was like -- oh,
and he also represents Dwayne and many of the
coaches, I'm sure.
And, you know, I think my conversation



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with him was -- had to do with looking to find


another opportunity, and he's connected with coaches.
And I can't even tell you exactly the conversation
regarding me searching for a job. (Unintelligible)
opportunity.
In the course of that, we talked about
reasoning why we both got back up and he articulated
to me that Kevin let him go because he didn't deliver
players to UConn. And that's what Kevin's
expectation -- his expectation was that Bret would
help him with players, influencing them to come to
UConn through financial assistance to the recruiters.
And Bret said, you know, I represent a
lot of coaches, and I've never provided financial
assistance to anybody to go to a school with a
client. And it kind of -- it kind of hit home with
me because in the meeting that I had with Kevin when
he, you know, fired me, I really pressed him for his
reasoning why he was making changes to my position,
and he really didn't provide any. He praised me for
my contributions to the program over the years of
working together, but said, you know -- the only
thing he really said that provided anything to me,
which was -- wasn't very sufficient was, you know,
just something he had to do. He can't keep on going
on like this. Got to make a change. We have to
elevate recruiting.
So that's what Kevin said to me in a
nutshell when -- in our meeting that lasted probably
all of 12 minutes. And he just didn't want to give
me any -- he didn't have any reason more beyond that.
So now I have that conversation with
Bret, and Bret tells me that the reason -- the main
reason he got let go was for not assisting and
helping players get to UConn. So, you know, now you
fast forward to all this FBI stuff, and so when UConn
compliance talked to me, doing their due diligence
and internal review regarding the FBI stuff, I
thought that was relevant to bring up because I don't
-- you know, I don't know if anything has occurred,
but that, to me, is a definite red flag.
And for me to be let go because -- if
in fact I'm let go because in part I wasn't willing
to break rules to recruit and engage them, then, you
know, I have a 30-year coaching career that I'm not
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support. And that -- that is really troubling that


that's the status of college basketball, that's where
we're at.
So to me, it was very relevant. And
it's -- that conversation, you know, sat with me. It
still does.

RR: And in your conversation with


Bret Just, did he say -- when he was explaining this
out to you, did he say that Kevin Ollie, that's what
Kevin Ollie told him as to why he was being let go?
Or was that what you felt was the reason?

GM: The way I interpreted it, that's


what Kevin -- that was one of the things that Kevin
articulated to him. And I do believe he -- he also
thought that Kevin helped with

RR: When -- during this time when you


had this conversation with Bret and then when you
looked back at your conversation with Coach Ollie,
was there -- did Coach Ollie ever tell you or
pinpoint in that conversation a particular recruit
that wasn't landed or any particular -- specific
reason or anything?

GM: No, no. No, and again, it's not


like he made it clear that that's the reason he was
making the change. It was very -- as I pressed him,
you know, because my point to him, in all the years
I've worked for you, the only thing you've done
publically and internally is praise. You
know, there's been no -- no review, no yearly
evaluation, nothing that would indicate that there
was a problem with me.
So you're going to one day after the
season tell me you're making a change, you know, I
wanted some answers, and he -- he didn't want to
provide any. He kept it really tight and really
simple.
And, you know, the only explanation he
gave, which again, is not an explanation, that you
know I can't keep -- I've got to make some changes.
I just have to do it. I can't keep going on like
this. And, you know, we've got to -- you know, I
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is -- that has nothing to do with firing me, but, you


know (unintelligible).
And so I left the meeting, and that's
all I had after all of these years. And so again, I
had that conversation with Bret. So you've got to
elevate recruiting, you fire your agent and you're
accusing him of -- of not -- you know, I fired you,
you know, for these reasons, and one of them being
that you're supposed to help me at UConn land
priority recruits. So -- I mean, I don't know if
that's verbatim, but that's what Bret told me, so.
But, you know, beyond reference --
there was no another reference -- there was not a
reference to another recruit besides And
Bret is well aware of that, that I was the point
person for
And since -- you know, since -- again,
through conversations with people, you know, Kevin
Ollie was really pissed off that you recruited
for and couldn't get a
commitment, you know, those types of things. So, you
know, I sit here to this day, and you have to move
on. I mean, that's a heavy thing, that I got let go
because I was unwilling to do things outside of the
rules to secure a commitment from a recruit.

RR: And you said in the course of


that conversation with Bret, he mentioned
specifically?

GM: Yes.

RR: Did he say that Coach Ollie was


(unintelligible) or how does come up?

GM: My -- my recollection is yes, he


did use as an example that his expectation
for him to help with that situation and my
recollection that he was accused of helping
as opposed to UConn.

DC: Who was accused of helping

GM: Bret.



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DC: Oh, okay. Yeah.

GM: Bret Just, his agent.

RR: And I think you've answered this,


but specifically, what did Bret say that Kevin Ollie
expected him to provide to the recruits?

GM: Financial assistance, yeah. He


might have even thrown a number at him, but I can't
-- I can't for sure, you know, verify that. But
definitely the expectation of that's why he went with
that agency and that's why he went with Bret.
And Bret's been one of those, you
know, you would think -- he just renegotiated his
contract, able to buyout his contract, and Bret's
thing was, you know, I've never delivered a player or
provided financial assistance to a recruit for any of
my clients. You would think that he would have been
happy that I renegotiated and secured a new contract
for him and did this, this, and this, and eliminated
-- eliminated a big buyout that was in his contract.
So, I mean, that was the gist of the conversation.

RR: Did -- have you heard similar --


from what you heard from Bret, have you heard that
from anyone else as the reason why Bret was let go?

GM: Yes. Yes. Again, somebody who I


prefer not to use their name because I have a
relationship with them. But it was a former player
of mine, former assistant coach who is represented by
Bret also. So my conversation with him, he
reiterated the same reason that Bret was let go. He
gave the same account as to what Kevin said to him.

RR: And (unintelligible) do you know


how this individual found that out or heard that?

GM: Through a conversation with Bret.


(Unintelligible) obviously played for coach. But
again, I mean, that's -- I didn't want to give you
that much information because it's something that,
you know, I trust, you know, trust 100 percent, and I
just don't want to be in that situation. But -- you
know.




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RR: To your knowledge, has Coach


Ollie ever provided benefits or inducements to a
recruit?

GM: No, not to my knowledge. Let me


take that back. Again, it's not -- I can't -- I
don't have the facts, but we had a player two years
ago and I -- and -- in conjunction with
the internal review by UConn, I let UConn know the
situation because in trying to answer the questions
honestly, and (unintelligible) the FBI investigation
(unintelligible) the way the questions were framed to
me, there was an obligation to let them know of a
situation that my wife was aware of.
And that was that
mother, she -- he's -- a from
. . She
moved from to Connecticut. And at
some point in time, she became -- I want to say
friends with my wife. My wife -- she was here by
herself.
When we went to
, my wife was one of the wives that went on
the trip, and she was by herself. She befriended my
wife, and as time went on, that relationship at some
point in time (inaudible), unbeknownst to me, and my
wife was very worried and scared and didn't want to hear any
information, she articulated to my wife that Kevin
had provided her with somewhere in the neighborhood,
I think, of $30,000 to make the move from
to Connecticut and, you know, with that, she was
indebted to him, and she would be able to
move into an apartment and, you know, go to the
to see , so on and so forth.
And I think my wife didn't -- she
didn't want to hear any more, any details. She said,
Glen doesn't know about this, and I don't want to
hear any more. So that, you know -- I mean, I guess
at some point in time, you know, I'm like
(unintelligible) -- it's not that I don't want to
talk to you, it's just that's the information that I
have, and I asked her -- told her as we went over,
you know, what happened in my firing and so on and so
forth (unintelligible).




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RR: So this is mother --

GM: Yeah.

RR: -- she told your wife this on a


-- what trip was it that --

GM: She didn't -- I don't think she


told my wife on the trip. It was somewhere
thereafter.

RR: Oh, okay?

GM: We played in
-- yeah, the that year.
And, you know, she was a single mom by herself, no
friends, and looking to, you know, be connected to
some people and enjoy his experience here .
And they were very close, and I think she probably
travelled as much as she could when he played at --
when played at she would see his games
in and, you know, I think she got a job
where she could -- you know, it wasn't that great of
a job. She just wanted to move and be around him for
the year.
So, you know, she would come to campus
often. She would go to his -- to all the games and
try to make friends.

RR: When she told your wife about


this, did she give any detail as to when that
occurred or where it occurred?

GM: She did. According to my wife,


she told -- she told Yvonne that it
happened at a hotel on campus and -- yeah, that's
where he, you know, gave her the money. I don't know
if -- you know, again, that's -- that's what she told
my wife. And I'm not in a position where -- nor is
my wife where we can have any more information that
would, you know, say that it definitely happened or
not, but that's what she told my wife.

RR: Do you recall when that might


have taken place? Was it before he started at UConn
or --




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GM: No, no. It was well after.


According to my wife, it was well after -- or
sometime after that trip to the My wife did
not know mother -- I think the first time
that my wife met mother was at
That's when they first
met. And she was there by herself.

RR: What academic year was he a


student athlete, do you know?

AF:

RR: As far as -- I think you said it


was $30,000 --

GM: That's the figure that my wife


gave, yes.

RR: Did she tell her was it cash --


or like how was it delivered?

GM: I believe she said it was cash.

RR: And did she say who gave it to


her?

GM: Kevin Ollie.

RR: And you said this supposedly took


place at a hotel on campus?

GM: Correct.

RR: Do you recall what hotel? What's


the name of the hotel?

GM: There's only one hotel, and it's


called the Nathan Hale.

RR: Did she say did they meet


outside, inside --?

GM: No, she didn't have any details.


No other details that she gave -- that she shared




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with me -- that Yvonne shared. No other details.

RR: Did mother, did she say


anything, did Kevin tell her anything when he gave it
to her, any explanation or anything?

GM: I don't know -- not that I know


of.

RR: Okay.

JT: As it relates to your wife,


Yvonne, is that her name?

GM: Yes.

JT: Okay. I know, Coach Miller, you


said she doesn't want to talk with us, but would she
be willing --

GM: I think she would --

JT: -- to go on the record?

GM: I think she would, yeah.

JT: Okay. And can we contact her --

GM: Yes.

JT: How can we contact her?

GM: I'll give you her cell. But I'd


just like to alert her that you might be calling --

JT: Okay. We'll --

GM: I'll give it to you right now.

JT: Okay.

DC: (Unintelligible).

JT: Okay. And then as far as -- you


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GM: Yes.

JT: Okay. Can I ask you was


mother -- let me back up. Can you talk to me a
little bit about recruitment, who was
primary --

GM: I was.

JT: You were?

GM: Yes.

JT: Okay. And then at what -- do you


know at what point during his recruitment that Coach
Ollie became -- or did he become involved --
obviously he became involved in the recruitment, but
at what point or what stage?

GM: Sometime during his last year at


We -- I was -- we were aware that he would
be available.

.
So through my conversations with
, who is the head coach at at the
time, I knew -- well, I knew, first of all, from
another coach who used to be my assistant,
you know, we go over the potential kids in the

So I knew that -- I had that


conversation with and he was like,
yeah, definitely, you know, he will -- you know,
he'll at the end of the season, you know, he'll tell
the kid, tell that UConn is interested in him.
So we knew about him ahead of time. We started
recruiting him actively at the end of the season.
And that's when Kevin got involved.

JT: Okay. And then as far as your




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wife's conversation with mother, can you --


do you have a month of when this conversation
happened? And I'm talking about and your wife,
the conversation -- mother --

GM: Yeah, yeah. When did it happen?

JT: When did it happen?

GM: You would have to talk to her. I


tried -- because I anticipated because I had already
shared this information with UConn compliance, that
this might come about. (Unintelligible). But I
don't know. It was after -- it was definitely after
the after the tournament.

JT: Okay.

GM: And she might -- she had to give


me a, you know -- she had -- you know, she had
interaction with mother, you know, for the
rest of the year here and there. I mean, she would
come eat. Sometimes my wife would walk with her in
the athletic facility and get some exercise. I mean,
they -- I felt like they hung out on a regular basis.
My wife is very -- you know, she's a people person,
and this woman was here by herself and didn't -- you
know, for the most part whenever we went on a trip
like that, my wife went and some of the other
assistant coach's wives did not go. So she
gravitated towards my wife because she's a nice
woman. You know, my wife was friendly back, was
trying to hang out with her all of the time, you
know.
But that relationship or that
friendship extended throughout the entire season
until left. At what point in time did she tell
my wife, I don't know if she's sure. But it wasn't
at the end of the season, but it was definitely after
the , which would have been around
time.

JT: Okay.

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JT: Okay. And then do you -- as far


as the alleged payment of $30,000, do you know around
what time frame that would have occurred?

GM: No, because I'm having a hard time


even remembering if -- at what point in time she
actually got into an apartment.

JT: That's what --

GM: Yeah. No, I know. And then


where was she staying before she -- I don't know if
she got an apartment right away. I really don't
know. I mean, I don't know -- I don't know if my
wife knows.

JT: Okay. And did you say

GM: Yes,
.

JT: Okay.

GM:
.

JT: And you don't know the name -- do


you know the -- I'm sorry. Do you know the name of
the complex she -- apartment complex she stayed in,
mother?

GM: Yeah, I think she wound up in a


couple of different places. I want to say the first
place might have been somewhere -- I think at some
point in time she might have been staying with a
woman -- she had an apartment with a woman in
Greenwich or Stanford area. But she had another
apartment, maybe her first one, was off of -- I want
to say near Middletown, Connecticut. I'm not sure.
But I think she stayed in a couple of different
places during the course of that.
And she might have stayed -- I don't
know where she is now, but she might have stayed in
Connecticut after
.




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JT: And do you know did she have a


job while she was here in Connecticut?

GM: I think she did get a job. I


don't recall with whom.

JT: Okay. Do you know what she did?

GM: No. I can't recall.

JT: Do you know -- did anyone -- or


do you know if anyone on the coaching staff helped
provide her or helped land her a job here?

GM: I know there was discussion


about, you know, trying to help her get a job. And I
don't know if anybody ever made any progress. I
think she might have secured a job on her own.

JT: Okay. And can you tell me --


when you said there were discussions, can you --

GM: Well, to the extent that she


needed a job, she was looking for any assistance in
finding an opportunity that she could get. So if we
knew of a job opening, I think we were -- you know,
we would try to provide her with that information.
Obviously, she would have to have the qualifications
to get the job, but to that extent, I think there was
some conversations to try to help her.

JT: Okay.

GM: But with that said, there was no


conversations that I was privy to -- to discuss
providing her with any financial assistance to move
her or to get her a job.

JT: Okay.

GM: Not that I'm aware of.

JT: Okay. During recruitment


at all, did mother express to you her desire
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Connecticut, I guess?

GM: Yeah, no, I don't recall. And I


definitely, definitely don't recall her asking for
any -- if she did express a desire to move, which I
can't -- I can't recall, if she did, she definitely
didn't ask for any assistance, any help to make it.

JT: Okay. And then regarding your


wife's conversation with mother, did she --
other than what you just told us, did she elaborate
--

GM: My wife didn't want to hear it.


She was like, don't -- you know, I don't want to hear
anything else. Glen doesn't know anything about
that. I don't want (unintelligible), you know, she's
very -- she's not -- she just knows that you can't do
things like that. She doesn't know the book inside
and out. She wasn't involved in, you know, maybe
like some wives are, you know, the strategy book was
out on the job, you know, she just goes to the game
and loves the kids and that's it.

JT: Yeah.

GM: And doesn't -- you know. So she


-- you know, that -- I think she cut off that
conversation or any information that might have come
(unintelligible).

JT: Coach, did you hear anybody


else on the coaching staff discuss or talk about
mom moving here other than, I think
you said the conversations about helping her with a
job or trying to find contacts for a job --

GM: I was going to say, that's not


the first -- that's not the first player who's had a
parent move to our area, you know, so -- it doesn't
happen all of the time, but every once in a while, it
happens. And my recollection is I don't think she
got any job that was an outstanding job or a step up
from what she had -- whatever she had in
You know, we've had -- maybe I was aware of, you
know, His dad, you know,




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had a place here, and I wasn't aware of anything that


was provided to him.
So no -- over the course of seven
years being back at UConn, any circumstances where a
parent may move here, I don't recall any situation
where we provided financial assistance.

JT: Okay. Those are all my questions


about 's mother, but I wanted to go back
to the former agent Bret.

GM: Yeah.

JT: So I didn't know if anybody else


had any questions about mother.

RR: Brian, did you have any questions about


?

BK: Yeah. And again, just some


clarifying questions, Coach Miller. And really I
want to put a timeline on some of these events and
-- just so I can have a more full understanding.
You know, obviously was a
at
that's kind of when he opened up his
recruitment; correct?

GM: Correct.

BK: All right. When did his mother


move to Connecticut? Was it during his
at --

GM: It was sometime after he was


enrolled at UConn. And I don't have that answer. I
know he came -- I'm pretty sure he came to summer
school -- started his
before the -- you know, before his season of playing.

BK: Okay.

GM: When he moved here, I'm not sure.

BK: All right. Yeah, I know you


certainly don't have a date or a month, can you give



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me just sort of your general impression. Was it very


soon after he got to campus, was there a good break
in between?

DC: The question he's asking is: You


don't recall the exact date, but do you recall that
it was soon after the student came to campus, shortly
thereafter, a month thereafter, any idea?

GM: Honestly, I don't remember.

DC: Okay.

BK: All right. And then -- and


again, I understand that your wife had the
conversation and you did not, but when in connection
-- to the best you can tell us, when in connection to
enrolling at UConn do we think this payment --
or the alleged payment was made? I mean, was that an
inducement to get him on to campus, was that after he
was already on campus?

GM: Right. The best -- the best


information I can give you -- or I can guess that it
was after -- it was after that trip to the
which would have been around time -- I
mean, that's when the conversation occurred, sometime
after that. I don't know. I mean, when you talk to
her -- I don't know. She didn't give me any time
line, and I was asking.
So, you know, she had many
conversations and interactions with his mother
throughout the course of that year, so this is
something that she didn't want to hear about, and the
relationship moved on. You know, I think she quickly
understood like, Glen doesn't know about this, and I
don't want to know about it. You know, if I know
about it, then that's not good either.
So, you know, when did she move, when
did that -- all I know is that conversation occurred
after she met mother. And she met
mother -- mother at that in
the

BK: Okay. So that obviously puts the


conversation in the proper timeline. I was just



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hoping you could give me some idea, to the best you


knew, about the time line for the payment.
Let me back up and touch on a slightly
different topic. What was Coach Ollie's connection
with either or his mother during
recruitment? I know you know he was involved to some
extent. Was he involved extensively, a little bit?
Can you put some -- kind of characterize that for us?

GM: I would say we were involved


actually. You know, I was making phone calls to
to his mother, and so was Coach Ollie. We
both went on a -- a visit to to visit
mother while was still at And
it wasn't a recruitment that lasted a long time. We
were aware that he was going to be available because
of his situation in the , and I had
conversations -- a conversation, or maybe two, with
prior to us, you know, getting actively
involved with recruiting him because he was still at
And made it perfectly clear that he
was going to be available and that he would talk to
and make sure that the family knew that UConn
had an interest.
But, you know, of course, you know, we
weren't going to be involved with a kid while he was
still at But, you know, was
-- other institutions knew that was going to be
available too. It was just a fact. You can't play
as a , so all the
high schools know when they're going to lose a kid.
There's a kid at right now that
they know after this year, he's gone because he's

. And, you know, he's already


-- he's been going to . So, you know, it's
-- that's the nature of the .
So his recruitment wasn't a
complicated one. It wasn't drawn out for a long
time. But Coach Ollie's involvement was normal
recruitment involvement.

BK: Okay. Yeah. And so Coach Ollie


talked to the mother many times, a few times? I'm
just trying to get an understanding of your
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GM: I mean, he talked to her during


the recruiting process a normal amount of times for
recruiting a kid, whatever that was. Now, after he
committed, she would -- she would come to campus. I
know she would -- she had a few talks with him in his
office. I mean, she was a single mother, was
interested in her son and by herself in Connecticut
and was around campus probably more so than maybe
another mother or a father.

BK: Okay.

GM: But (unintelligible) with her on


campus in his office or -- you know, our offices --
you know, these are a couple of occasions after he
joined our program.

BK: Okay. But let's -- just to


confine this a little bit to the recruitment period,
Coach Ollie's interactions with her, at least as
you're aware, didn't raise a red flag in any way?

GM: No, definitely not.

BK: Okay. That's all I had. Thank


you.

GM: You're welcome.

JT: Coach Miller, you mentioned your


conversation with Bret Just. And please correct me
if I'm wrong, I think you said the meeting in which
he had dismissed you lasted -- lasted around
12 minutes.

GM: Yeah.

JT: And during that meeting, he


indicated that -- he indicated to you that that's the
reason, elevating recruiting was the reason why he
had already -- or why he had terminated Bret Just.

GM: Kevin did not indicate to me any


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JT: Okay.

GM: He just informed me -- like in


other words, it's a tough day for him, I had to let
go of my, you know, agent. I let go of him before
this meeting, you know. Basically implying it was
not easy for him, but he has to make changes. It was
necessary, but he would not give a reason why.

JT: Okay.

GM: But I didn't ask. That was -- I


mean, I was in there -- you know, it was almost
insulting for him to tell me that he terminated his
agent. Was that supposed to make me feel better
about it? You know, maybe in terms of -- I was
interested as to why he terminated him. I only got
that information when I had a conversation with Bret
Just.

JT: Did you call Bret Just, or did


Bret Just call you after that?

GM: I had one conversation with Bret.


It's not like he wanted to talk a lot. I might have
initiated -- I don't -- I can get that information.
I think I might have -- if I initiated the phone
call, I initiated the phone call to try to, you know,
find an opportunity -- I had -- what happened was --
in the meeting, one thing I made clear, I was like,
this is devastating. You know, if this gets out
publically, my chances of getting another opportunity
are greatly diminished. You have to give me time and
keep this between you and I, so -- because I tried
to, you know, change his mind and rationalize with
him. There was no changing his mind about the
decision he made regarding me. So now it was trying
to buy some time so I could aggressively try to find
another opportunity. Because once it's been out
publically that you're fired, it's just -- it's
difficult.
So I might have initiated that phone
call. That was right around the time other coaches
were getting fired to see if any of his clients had a
position open, any information that he might have. I
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find those opportunities. And in the process of


that, if I did call, that was the impetus behind me
calling him, and then we talked about, you know, me
getting fired, no reason why he fired me, he didn't
give me an explanation. Then he gave me his
explanation of why he got fired, what Kevin Ollie
told him.

JT: Okay.

GM: Yeah.

JT: So that's what I wanted to get


to. In that piece where Kevin Ollie told him that
there was this expectation regarding financial
assistance in order to get recruits, did he -- and I
think I heard you say that that's the reason why
Kevin Ollie went with that agency in the first place.

GM: Correct.

JT: Can you give me a little bit more


context behind that? Why do you say that?

GM: Because that's why he fired him.


So -- if that's why he fired him, that's why he went
with -- we -- we've had discussions as a staff before
about the influence of shoe companies on where kids
go and the connection between agents and where kids
go and shoe companies. This whole FBI, we've had
those discussions.
Now, the questions that I recall were
general in the sense that, you know, this is a game
that's going on that we're losing. We're not
involved in. We're losing. So if I were to put two
and two together, at some point in time, I think
we're losing some of these battles, and we're not
going to win them.
So if he made a change with his -- if
he -- that's the reason why he would go, if that's
where he thought --

BK: I'll state for my record it


appears I have dropped the call. And it is
approximately 3:00 p.m. Central Time.



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JT: -- was that response, coach


Miller?

GM: (Unintelligible) yeah.

JT: Okay. Okay. I'm sorry. I know


you also said that Bret Just represented Dwayne.

GM: I believe he does, yes.

JT: Okay. Do you have any knowledge


about, you know, Dwayne paying --

GM: No.

JT: -- recruits at all?

GM: No.

JT: Okay. Do you know what -- what


Kevin Ollie's current agency is?

GM: I believe it's the one with Jeff


Schwartz.

JT: Okay. And -- I was just looking


at that -- do you have any -- I was just looking at
that. (Unintelligible).
Do you have any knowledge of Jeff
Schwartz or his agency paying recruits?

GM: No, I don't.

JT: Okay. That's all I have.

RR: Brian, did you have any


follow-ups on this area?

BK: No, I didn't. Thank you.

DC: None at all.

RR: Coach, I think we've kind of hit


all of (unintelligible). I asked you before if you
had knowledge of or had heard that Kevin Ollie
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knowledge or have you heard of any assistant coaches


providing benefits to -- or money to PSAs or student
athletes?

DC: You'll have to speak up.

GM: Oh, I'm sorry. No. I'm sorry.


We covered that with UConn compliance also, that
question.

RR: Coach, do you know


that name?

GM: Yes.

RR: Who is

GM: He's a
basketball player at UConn.

RR: Who was his recruiting coach?

GM: Ricky Moore.

RR: Was Ricky Moore, was he ever, as


you recall, in danger or on the hot seat of losing
his position at UConn?

GM: From a faculty (phonetic)


standpoint, I don't know, but through conversations
with various people, it was said that either Ricky or
I were going to get turned in, to me by a few
different people. Again, I don't want to give you
the names.

RR: Was there any speculation, or did


you hear as to why --

GM: Yeah.

RR: -- Ricky might be terminated?

GM: Again, speculation that


or his family were provided, you know, financial
payment or -- you know, that he was paid to come to
UConn, and Ricky was involved in the recruitment, so



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if one of us was going to go, it could be him. It


was going to be me.

RR: Coach, you said


committed and is a student athlete at UConn. Are you
aware did Ricky Moore or any other assistant coach or
anyone else, to your knowledge, provide him or his
family cash or inducement to come to UConn?

GM: To my knowledge, no. I don't


have any information -- faculty (phonetic)
information that anybody did that (unintelligible).
Just different, you know, more than a couple people,
general consensus that he got paid to come to UConn
from within -- you know, people outside of the
program.

RR: Did these people have firsthand


knowledge, or was it just speculation?

GM: I would -- I mean, I always take


that as speculation unless someone gives me facts, so
it would be speculation.

RR: Okay. Did they say that it was


from Ricky Moore or that --

GM: No indication of who it was from.


I have no information, you know, beyond, you know,
their, you know, hope that they don't find out about
you know. You know, there's enough people
that think he got paid, but no details, no facts to
my knowledge.

RR: So there was no -- I just want to


be clear for the record (unintelligible). But there
was no chatter or no information about how much the
payment might have been or who it was to?

GM: No.

RR: Okay. We talked about this


individual before, one of the assistants, Raphael
Chillious.

GM: Yeah.




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RR: Is that how you say his last


name? When was he hired at UConn?

GM: Shortly after I was terminated.

RR: Do you know -- do you have any


information about how much he was paid or how much he
was offered to come in --

GM: I can only tell you, again from


Different people I've had conversations with, relationships
with, that he was -- Kevin was having conversations
with him, you know, well in advance of firing me.
And that, you know, there was an expectation that he
was going to bring some of the players that had
committed from the University of Washington to UConn.
And it's rumored that he's making
considerably more than I made. Same position. I
mean, again, (unintelligible) not actual
conversations.

RR: Have you heard of anything or do


you know anything about expectations that he paid
PSAs to come to UConn?

GM: Not that I know of, no. I mean,


just -- he just has a reputation as being a national
recruiter and a good one. And that's -- you know,
that's all.

RR: It's been reported to us that


Kevin Ollie, whenever he hired coach Chillious set an
expectation that he -- that he did provide benefits,
that he does provide cash to recruits or PSAs for
coming in. Have you heard anything about that?

GM: Just -- again, same type of


things, that, you know, the excess money that he's
getting paid should be used to enhance or help -- you
know, help influence kids to come. So, again, not
anything that I can substantiate.

RR: Do you have any knowledge of any


specific PSAs that he might have been recruiting that
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GM: No, just that there was -- you


know, again, just things I read, things I hear
initially. Kids that have committed to Washington
and then have chose to change, those kids were either
-- didn't -- had to sign a letter of intent or were
going to be let out of a letter of intent that they would
come to UConn, which (unintelligible).

RR: Do you recall any of their names?

GM: I don't know,


-- there's -- you know, I can't tell you --
there was --

DC: Following the (unintelligible).

GM: Yeah.

DC: There's no secrets about who


those players were.

GM: Right. I think one or two of


them might have visited. I don't know.
(Unintelligible).

RR: Have you heard any other talk or


have any knowledge of any other assistant coaches at
UConn, past or present, that paid PSAs to come to
UConn or were expected (sic) students?

GM: No. There's an expectation -- I


would say the paid players come to UConn. I think
there's an expectation for us as coaches to interact
with coaches, AAU coaches, people affiliated with a
prospect when we were out traveling. But I wouldn't
say that there was an expect -- there was no
expectation that I knew of to pay a kid.

RR: To your knowledge, Coach Ollie


never said that to you as a coach that that was an
expectation? Or did he ever communicate that to the
coaching staff?

GM: No, he communicated that, you


know, we should -- you know, be out when we can

 

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socializing and trying to further build a


relationship with people that are involved with
prospects, you know, coaches, AAU coaches -- in
particular AAU coaches.

DC: But not to pay them, he never


said there was an expectation to pay them?

GM: Not to pay the PSAs. To go out


and -- no, no. But in the course of being out and
entertaining, if that's the situation you were in,
(unintelligible).

JT: Meaning it was an expectation to


pay for entertainment expenses for AAU coach and
meals?

GM: I don't recall him specifically


saying to pay for them, we were just encouraged to go
out and -- and socialize with -- you know, to -- in
the course of doing that -- if you do that, my thing
would be that there's probably an expectation to pick
up the bill if you're going to do that. I don't
recall specifically him saying to pick up the bill,
just encouraged us to go out and socialize when we
could.

RR: Did this -- what coaches that you


recall actually did this, or did provide -- built
those relations and provided meals --

GM: I mean, I don't have any


examples. I'll just say that, you know, when we're
on the road and finished with our meetings, coaches
invariably go out and, I would think, eat with people
when they're within an area that is conducive to
that, whether it's maybe an AAU program or a high school
or whatever. You know, in an area where we're
recruiting kids or potentially can recruit kids.

RR: And did UConn assistant coaches,


to your knowledge, did they provide -- did they pick
up the check for the meal?

GM: I don't know. I can't -- I can't


say when they did go out and socialize they picked it

 

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up. I couldn't say they did, no. Couldn't say they


did or they didn't. I don't know. I was never out
because, again, I was -- I was responsible for those
scouting reports. So I was, you know, up until all
hours of the night doing that. I wasn't in a
position to go out much. I didn't really want to go
out, so.

JT: That leads me to this question:


Did you ever pick up --

GM: No.

JT: -- any -- okay. Let me make sure


I ask the question.

GM: Go ahead.

JT: Did you pick up any entertainment


expenses or pay for any meals or drinks or anything
related to entertainment for any AAU coach or
individuals that might have been involved with
prospects?

GM: No.

JT: Okay.

RR: I wanted to ask about --


(unintelligible).
An individual by the name of -- I
think his nickname was

GM: Okay.

RR: Do you know

GM: Yes.

RR: Who is he?

GM: AAU coach for I


don't know what it stands for, but it's a team based
out of

RR: Does -- does he have any

 

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involvement around UConn, or how is he involved at


all?

GM: Just that we have -- UConn has


that play in his AAU program,
and

RR: And they're student


athletes?

GM: Yes, .

RR: What is his relationship with


Kevin Ollie? Do they know each other? How is that
relationship --

GM: Yeah, just -- I think a lot of


people know He is -- his roster is filled
with high-natured players, so -- some pretty
high-profile kids, so a lot of coaches know him. And
he's -- obviously he has an interest in his players
and their progress, so he's come and visited practice
and the facility, and so on and so forth, that type
of stuff.

RR: When -- when -- and what


was the other student athlete?

GM:

RR: When they were being


recruited by UConn, did accompany them on
unofficial visits or --

GM: Not was --


he was at has a -- a stable home
situation, and is very reliant on
has been, you know, a key figure in his life -- the
figure in his life, to my knowledge.
So I'm pretty sure -- you know, I
can't say for certainty that accompanied him on
his official visit, but is very close with
and looks after him in every way, you know.
Concerned about his development. Used to call and
have conversations with -- you know, in the case of
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really talked to him because I wasn't his position


coach. As far as his -- what was going on at campus.
I would talk to him when he visited
campus and when I see him out at events. But he
would call the strength coach and want to know, you
know, the progress and -- or the lack of progress and
was concerned -- what he was concerned about. So he
was very involved with

RR: When you say KO, you meant Kevin


Ollie?

GM: Yes, correct. Yes.

RR: So Kevin Ollie and they


would talk from time to time? They had communication
that you recall?

GM: Yes.

RR: It was reported to us that Kevin


Ollie was providing financial support to
Have you -- do you have any knowledge of
that?

GM: Just -- just another situation of


hearsay.

RR: What -- what's the extent of the


information that you've heard related to that?

GM: Just that he's being -- his


presence at UConn -- has been compensated for
incoming (unintelligible).

RR: (Unintelligible)?

GM: For coming to UConn.


has been compensated in some way.

RR: By?

GM: By Kevin.

RR: Is that an ongoing compensation


or --

 

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GM: I don't have any information on


that beyond, you know, that he may have been
compensated or is being compensated.

RR: Was there any impressions to the


amount or --

GM: I don't have -- no, I don't have


information on that.

JT: No.

RR: Brian, did you have any


follow-ups?

BK: I'm just checking my notes real


quick. No, I don't have anything on -- on --
actually, I take that back.
For , Coach Miller, when
you say he's close to and was concerned
about him, is he making phone calls, is he showing up
on campus? Can you give me some more information
about how you would run into

GM: I missed the last part of your


question --

BK: I apologize. It appears we're


having a little bit of a connection problem.
But what I'm trying to get at is, what
kind of relationship -- or how would you see
in and around campus? Would it be him on
campus in person, or would you hear of him making
phone calls? Would you make phone calls with him? I
just want to get some idea of what his visibility
would be.

GM: I think -- well, both. He's made


phone calls to -- to check on progress or ask
about progress both -- probably on -- on the
court, in the class room, in the weight room. He's
-- he's been to watch practices. I mean, I've seen
him -- you know, he's been at press events. Like
you'll -- he's out and about in recruiting for his
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he's in the area, he'll come up and watch practice.


You know, he's just involved in
career, his development, and has a
relationship to the extent that he can call and have
conversations about development with various
people involved with the program, including Kevin
Ollie and the strength coach and assistant coaches.

BK: All right. Have you seen


anything impermissible that has
personally done with respect to or
anything he's, you know, provided that would
raise your red flag or, you know, anything you've
seen him ask for or receive that would potentially be
impermissible?

GM: No. I want to go back to -- you


asked about if I heard. I did hear a range of what
-- if was getting paid, what it was. I want to
say, you know, $3,000-range. So how -- you know --
the person, the people who were talking were using
that as a figure.

RR: Did they -- did they say that was


a one-time payment, or did they say that was a
continual payment?

GM: I'm not sure. I'm not sure.

RR: Brian, did you have some more?

BK: Yeah. And I wanted to confirm


that the other student athlete involved would be
correct?

GM: Correct.

BK: And I heard you say before, but I


want to make sure that I, what I understand is
correct, that -- or that had
less involvement with due to
home situation; right?

GM: Well, I assume. You know, that's


-- -- I believe has been, you
know, away from program for a longer period

 

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of time than

BK: Okay. Does -- when comes


to campus, does he interact with as well?

GM: Yes.

BK: Again, anything impermissible


that you've seen or noticed with respect to his
interaction with

GM: No.

BK: All right. That's all I have for


Thank you.

AF: Can I take a quick break?

RR: Yes.

AF: I don't know how much longer


we're going to go, but --

RR: I have just a --

GM: -- I'm going to run to the


restroom.

RR: -- bit more. Yeah. I'll note


for the record that we're pausing at 4:21 p.m.
Eastern Time.

DC: Brian, we'll call you back. How


is that?

(Short recess.)

RR: I'll note for the record that we


stopped the recording for a momentary break, and
we're back at 4:32 p.m. Eastern Time.
Does anyone have any follow-ups?

DC: No.

BK: None here.

 

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RR: (Unintelligible) Coach Miller,


we'll move on. We were talking about and
and Do you know -- were
there any other PSAs that were being recruited by
UConn or any more student athletes that had a
connection with

GM: I believe recently


played for We spent time recruiting --
no, actually he didn't play for Just -- I
just think .

RR: How involved was in his


recruitment?

GM: (Unintelligible). He was


involved. I don't know to what degree it was -- I'm
not sure. I wasn't the point person. I was not
involved in that recruitment much at all.

RR: Who was his --

GM: Dwayne Killings was recruiting


(unintelligible).

RR: Do you recall ever seeing


come on any unofficial visits with or --?

GM: I think when he came, he came


with his brother, I don't know. I don't
recall. I just know his brother came.

RR: Did -- are you aware did


provide anything -- any benefits to allow to
come to UConn or --

GM: Not that I know of, no.

RR: As far as -- and I think this


probably was hit on, but just to clarify, when --
when would -- and I know you said he called
several different individuals, but would you say --
who was his primary point person that he would
contact to checkup -- check back up on or ask
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GM: I think he probably has the best


relationship with Dwayne. I don't -- I don't know if
he -- I assume he had conversations with Ricky,
Dwayne. He definitely had conversations with our
strength coach who was let go, Travis Illian. He's
gone now.
I mean, but he has a relationship with
Kevin too, to talk to Kevin about and things
that are going on also. So I think he's -- you know,
I don't -- the answer to your question is, I think he
had conversations with all of those people. Who he
talked to the most, I don't know.

RR: Do you ever recall conversations


that had that you might have heard or heard
about that went beyond just checking up on --

GM: No.

RR: -- or

GM: No. Go ahead.

JT: No, you go ahead.

GM: No, I just -- you know, it is an


expectation there for that he didn't have a
(unintelligible). He's one and done. And, you know,
and he , and got settled back
(phonetic).
And, you know, so with that
expectation is, you know, from is, you know, I
think rapid improvement, you know, in all areas. So
he's involved. And he's on top of it. He wants to
know from -- from, you know, the coaching staff and
the strength department how things are going. And if
they're not progressing the way that he would want,
you know, he's concerned about that. And that -- so
that's, you know, that's the situation.

JT: You mentioned Travis Illian --

GM: Illian, yeah.

JT: Illian?

 

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GM: Illian, yeah.

JT: Oh. Was his letting go, did that


have anything to do with any sort of NCAA related
matters, to your knowledge?

GM: No -- no. I think, you know, and


you would have to talk to Travis, but I think there
are always multiple reasons why. You know, he did a
good job, and I think he -- you know, he -- there
might have been some things that was expected out of
him that he wasn't either willing to do or didn't
have the expertise to do beyond strength and
reasoning and in the weight room.
But, I mean, that's --
(unintelligible).

JT: Did Kevin Ollie let him go?

GM: Yes.

JT: Okay. And I'm not asking you


about specific names, but things that he was expected
to do beyond his, I guess, normal strength and
conditioning activities, do you know what those
things were --

GM: Like I said, I just think that


Kevin wanted someone with a little more basketball
background, and Travis did not have a basketball
background. And so -- so --

JT: To help recruit?

GM: So --

JT: Well --

GM: I mean, I wouldn't say


recruiting, but I would just say more developed,
probably. You know, which would maybe extend to some
things on the floor outside of the weight room.

JT: Okay.

GM: And Travis, you know, connecting

 

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-- someone who could connect strength training more


with basketball development.

JT: Okay.

GM: That would be -- I think that's


the way Travis would feel he talked to him, and
that's the way I looked at the situation as to why he
might have been let go. Our guys weren't -- you
know, we had a lot of the same guys who didn't
naturally put on weight and bulk, and it was a
struggle. And part of that is, is the type of
physical prospect you recruit --

JT: Right.

GM: -- would have been -- you know,


it's going to take longer with some kids. With some
kids, it might not happen. So I just think generally
Kevin was looking for -- in replacing Travis, he was
looking for somebody who had -- definitely had a
basketball background.
You know, again, if you look at the
NBA, there's more guys like that that can not only
help a player's development in the weight room, they
can transfer it a lot on the court and apply those
types of things to -- (unintelligible).

JT: I got you.

RR: Brian, did you have anything?

BK: Just to clarify that last point,


coach, what I think you're saying, and I want to make
sure I have the correct understanding, is that at
least there was a perception from Coach Ollie that
Travis Illian wasn't training guys for, say,
basketball specific moves; is that right? Is that
what you're getting at?

GM: To some -- yes. To a degree,


yes.

BK: Okay. So instead of just a --

GM: Yes. Where -- I think Kevin



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wanted somebody who could communicate to the players


from a basketball perspective and help with their
skill development from a basketball perspective, not
just a strength and conditioning perspective.

BK: Right.

GM: Does that help?

BK: Yeah. I think that's right, and


I just want to make sure that that's not trending
somewhere I don't think you're heading. Is that --
you know, obviously certain strength moves will make
you stronger but may not make you a better basketball
player. I think what you're suggesting is Coach
Ollie wanted somebody who was going to kind of focus
on those specific moves for the specific player at
that specific position that's going to make them
better on the basketball court as opposed to just
stronger and get them in a better condition.

GM: Yeah. That and -- yes, yeah.


That's it.

BK: Okay. Then that's all I had.

JT: I felt like there was something


more that you wanted to say --

GM: No, not really, no.

JT: Okay.

GM: I mean, Travis, you know -- you


know, I've had conversations with Travis in coaching
the front-court players and saying like, maybe we can
do something in the weight room that helps with their
skill level on the court. You know, that you can --
it's under the strength and conditioning umbrella, so
you're not actually on the court teaching a guy as a
strength coach how to make a crossover move.

JT: Right.

GM: But you can help with his


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So, you know, if you have a coach who has done those
things -- a strength coach whose also done those
things, helped develop players on the court, that
type of well -- more well-rounded strength coach, and
basketball-specific strength coach, is more what he
was looking for. That's why I think -- was part of
the reason that he made a change with him.

JT: Coach --

GM: It all has to do with development


on the court.

JT: Got it.

DC: Coach, of course you can't -- if


that's your intention, for a strength coach to be on
the court teaching basketball-specific skills, you
can't (unintelligible).

JT: And I think that's --

DC: (Unintelligible).

JT: -- and that's the question that I


had, was: You're wanting him to be a coach on -- in
addition to being a strength coach. Was your
assumption that Kevin Ollie --

GM: My assumption, yes.

JT: -- wanted Travis to also be a


coach on the basketball --

GM: Not necessarily --

JT: -- a skill-related --

GM: Yeah, not -- not a coach in the


sense of strategic coach. But if you could have a
strength coach who could assist in the development of
their basketball skill at the same time, just another
person that can help with development.

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AF: Coach -- sorry. (Unintelligible).


Did that ever -- was that ever asked of Travis, do
you know? Or did you ever witness Travis providing
that type of instruction?

GM: It was --

AF: (Unintelligible).

GM: It was (unintelligible) by Travis


that it was an expectation that he was uncomfortable
with.

AF: Okay.

GM: So that's why I said, you know,


if you have those types of questions, he would be the
one to talk to.

AF: Okay. Did you ever witness him


doing anything beyond the strength and conditioning
piece --

GM: No.

AF: Okay.

RR: Did he say who made that request


that he engage in that type of activity or --

GM: Yeah, he was not specific, but he


implied to me that that -- I think Kevin wanted --
Kevin Ollie wanted to see him do -- I don't know what
those things were. Again, I -- it's not even -- that
should be a question, I think, that you ask him so he
can answer it with direct --

AF: Yeah.

GM: -- I can't give specifics. I


don't have them. It was just a concern of his that
he articulated to me, that he was uncomfortable with
it.

RR: Glen, I wanted to ask you about


-- kind of shift gears a little. On official and



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unofficial visits, did -- did student athletes, PSAs,


did they ever come -- did they ever workout, did they
ever --

GM: Yes, yes. Out of season. Off


season guys play pickup with -- not every PSA, but a
lot of PSAs play pickup with our guys.

RR: During -- during that time when


they would come, did they receive any workout gear or
any apparel?

GM: On occasions, and probably --


yeah, definitely on occasions they received, you
know, practice gear and maybe some sneakers, they
didn't have their own or didn't want to use their own
to workout. Yeah.

RR: And when you say practice gear,


what is included in that?

GM: Well, it could be -- could be --


usually I think it would be some kind of UConn
basketball T-shirt, pair of shorts, maybe, you know,
you have a roll where you get socks and the shorts
and maybe a T-shirt.

RR: When they got that, did they have


to turn that back in or what --

GM: The expectation is they have to


turn it in. You know, I was never involved in
issuing or -- or retrieving that (unintelligible),
but that's (unintelligible).

RR: The information that we -- that


was reported to us was that PSAs and recruits were
not required to turn that back in after their visit.

GM: Yeah, I don't -- the only thing I


know is that not every kid was provided gear to
workout. Whether they turned it back in or not with
each situation, I don't know.

RR: So do you recall any -- any time


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on campus didn't turn that gear back in?

GM: No. I'm not saying it didn't


happen, I just don't -- I can't give you an example
where I know for sure it did not.

RR: Who would have been in charge of


retrieving that?

GM: I don't know if it was ever


addressed. I mean, I think, you know, basically a
student manager would go down to the equipment room
and ask for shirt size for the recruit to give -- you
know, and give that gear to him so he could go in the
locker room and get ready to go workout. So whether
-- whether that student manager was also in charge of
-- I would think he would be in charge of -- I never
gave that directive to provide or get it back, but I
would assume that the student manager or the
equipment manager would be the ones to get it back.

RR: During your -- during your time,


who were those managers?

GM: We -- UConn probably has probably


10 or 14 student managers. Some of them were on a
more regular basis than others, but I couldn't even
give you all their names.

RR: (Unintelligible). Do you recall


a recruit by the name of

GM: I know who he is. He didn't


visit when I was there.

RR: Okay.

GM: So I don't know what his visit


consisted of.

RR: Who was his recruiter, as you


recall?

GM: I don't know.

RR: (Unintelligible).



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GM: I mean, if I was to guess, it


would be Dwayne.

RR: Do you recall -- I'm sorry.

GM: No, I just -- (unintelligible) I


think Dwayne was involved in, but I'm not sure.

RR: So do you have any knowledge of


him having a visit where he received gear and didn't
turn that back in?

GM:

RR:

GM: I don't. I wasn't -- you know,


again, I wasn't there when he visited.

RR: On unofficial visits, was there


ever a time where PSAs ate with the team that you
recall?

GM: Yeah.

RR: When did that occur?

GM: It -- you know, don't have


specifics. If -- I think generally if we had -- if
we had a workout and we had a post-workout meal, the
recruits -- you know, if a recruit or a PSA was
there, invariably, you know, they would go down to
the cafeteria, and, you know, the cafeteria is -- is
in the practice facility, so it occurred. How many
times it occurred -- it would occur, I just -- I
would be lying if I said it didn't happen.

RR: Those PSAs that were on


unofficial, were they required to pay for that meal
--

GM: No. To my knowledge, no.

RR: And you said you don't recall how


many -- how many times that occurred, or do you?

 

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GM: I don't. And it was -- you know,


it was a random thing, so it wasn't like it was, you
know, you're on campus, we're going to eat at a
certain time or anything like that. It just -- if
they were on campus and a workout concluded and the
guys went out to eat and they were still in the
facility and wanted to eat with the coaches and just
hang out with the players, I think they had a meal
with the players.

RR: So just to walk through it, and


correct me if I'm wrong, so say a recruit on an
unofficial was just hanging out, I guess, at practice
or --

GM: Watching practice.

RR: Watching practice. The team


would go to the dining facility, is that correct,
after --

GM: You know, and again, not every


time was there a meal, but there were a lot of meals
provided post-workout.

RR: Would they always be in the


dining facility or --

GM: Yeah. Most every meal was in the


dining facility, practice facility (unintelligible).

RR: So those recruits on their


unofficial visits, they would just follow the team,
basically, up there?

GM: Yeah. A lot of the guys -- I


mean, if they played pickup with the guys or they
knew the guys and they were hanging out with the guys
in the locker room afterwards and, you know, if
they're visiting (unintelligible) on occasions, I
think they had a meal, yeah.

RR: How -- how long during your


tenure there did that occur? Was that the whole time
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GM: No. No, we -- we didn't have the


practice facility nor did we have catered meals the
whole time. So I don't remember it really happening
until we were in the new practice facility.
(Unintelligible) which I don't know how far back or
how many times.
I just -- again, you're asking a
question. I don't have the number of times. I just
know it definitely happened.

RR: Was -- Coach Ollie, was he aware


that that was occurring?

GM: Yeah. You know, he had to have


been aware. You know, not every time, but, I mean,
we're in the same facility. I mean, it's not every
time the coaches go down there and eat, but every
coach at some point in time, if it happened, you
know, once in a while, they saw it.

RR: Was there ever any discussion


about the permissibility of that or how that
operation was --

GM: Yeah. You know, it was just


another thing that, you know, was -- it was brought
up as a cautionary thing early on, but it was just
such a minor, nonchalant thing, that it wasn't -- you
know, it wasn't -- it was allowed. You know, we
didn't keep a close -- we didn't police it.

RR: When you say it was brought up as


a cautionary thing, did someone bring it to y'all's
attention, or what do you mean by that?

GM: No. I just -- again, I don't


have -- I can't tell you if we, you know, had a
discussion about it. I just know we -- it -- you're
not supposed to do it. And it was another thing that
is not necessarily -- it was not necessarily
(unintelligible). But it happened occasionally, and
it wasn't at our -- at the staff's direction. It
just if they went up there and got a plate to eat,
they got a plate to eat.

 

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RR: And when you said -- I asked the


question did Coach Ollie know about it. Did he ever
talk about it in the staff meetings, or did he ever
bring it up?

GM: No.

RR: Do you recall any incidents where


he -- where you know that he saw that occur?

GM: Yeah. He's -- specific examples,


no. But he definitely saw kids eating in the
cafeteria at a given time.

RR: Were there any other times on


unofficial visits that meals were provided for the
recruit free of charge?

GM: No. What do you mean any other


times?

RR: I mean any other time that they


were -- other than when they were --

GM: No, no. Yeah, no. It was very


much a random, unplanned thing. So we wouldn't say,
you know, you're going to eat with the guys at this
time.

RR: Do you ever recall any of


unofficial visits where that occurred?

GM: I can't exactly.

RR: As far as the apparel questions


that we talked about, other than workout gear, do you
ever recall any other incidents where gear was
provided to a PSA?

GM: No.

JT: Yeah. Other -- Coach Miller, you


talked about the workout gear, and you also talked
about during unofficial visits, you talked about the
meals. Were there any other activities during
unofficial visits that didn't settle with you right

 

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or you felt uncomfortable or questioned whether or


not you should be doing it during unofficial visits?

GM: No, no.

JT: Okay. That's all I have.

RR: Brian, did you have follow-ups?

BK: I did have a few questions.


Coach Miller, in terms of PSAs coming to play pickup
ball at the gym, were coaches aware that was
happening?

GM: Play pickup?

BK: Right.

GM: Yes.

BK: Yeah. I assume you guys weren't


watching the pickup games; is that correct?

DC: He assumes you weren't watching


the pickup games --

GM: Right. Well, our offices


overlook the court, so where we -- I mean, could have
been in your office, could have been in the
cafeteria, could have been across campus. The guys
are playing right below you.

BK: Okay. Were the coaches involved


at all in instructing any of the student managers or
equipment managers to get student athletes or
PSAs workout gear?

GM: I believe student managers went


to the equipment room to get a PSA workout gear based
on his size.

DC: He's asking did coaches


specifically tell them to go get them?

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BK: Right. And I think what I'm


trying to get at is, so a coach knows that a student
-- a PSA is going to be on campus and might play
pickup ball and will tell a student manager, hey, go
get this kid, you know, a shirt and a pair of shorts
so he can play?

GM: If he so desires to play.

BK: Right. Right.

GM: Not every kid comes to campus and


wants to play pickup with the guys, but a lot do.

BK: Okay. And what I was getting at


a little bit is who would that coach be? Is it going
to be the coach who's the primary recruiting contact
for the student athlete? Is it going to be somebody
who's off --

GM: Most likely it would be the coach


who's the primary recruiting coach for that athlete.

BK: Okay. So let's just -- let's


just use the folks that you were the primary
recruiting contact for. When they would come to play
pickup ball, or if they were there on campus and
wanted to play pickup ball, would you tell the
student manager, you know, this kid needs a shirt,
some shorts, a pair of socks, shoes in this size,
something like that?

GM: Correct.

BK: Okay. And then --

GM: So it was something -- you know,


if the kid didn't have sneakers to play and the
equipment room had a size 13, that's what he took,
and he took an extra-large pair of shorts or T-shirt
and say, you know, give such and such --
needs a size 13 and extra-large, and see if you can
take care of him so he has -- you know, get him some
gear out of the equipment room so he can play. And,
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BK: Okay. And then the next question


is, did you guys give any instructions to the student
managers as to kind of what the expectation was about
them collecting the material, you know, T-shirt,
shorts, socks, shoes, whatever it may be, after the
game is over?

GM: I think the coaches did. I did,


and I think the other coaches did too. To -- did
they follow-up to see if the manager returned the
gear, I don't know about that. I didn't.

BK: All right.

GM: No, I didn't. That's the answer


to that. So I don't know -- I can't speak for the
other coaches.

BK: Okay. And then -- but in terms


of setting that expectation ahead of time, you think
that was the practice of yourself and some of the
other coaches as well?

GM: Well, it's also the expectation


of the equipment room manager, and we -- so, you
know, they -- they're issuing the gear, and they're
expected to get the gear back as well as the student
manager, yes.

BK: Okay.

GM: Yeah, that's an expectation, if


that's what you're asking.

BK: And, you know, I don't think -- I


probably don't need to get too far into the weeds
here, but obviously you're aware of the rule that you
cannot provide a potential student athlete with
workout gear for them to take home without
reimbursement for it; is that right?

GM: Yeah. What I'm -- I'm aware that


the gear, if it's issued to them, it has to be
returned before they leave campus.

BK: Right.



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GM: So, you know, if they left it to


the athlete, I don't get that far. I just know you
have to return it.

BK: Okay. And obviously that is --


was a part of the compliance rules education that was
provided to you as a coach; is that right?

GM: Correct.

BK: Okay. Do you have any concerns


or questions about that compliance education? Did
you think it covered that rule appropriately?

GM: I mean, I don't know if I


remember it specifically, that rule, but the
compliance office covers -- covers the rules and has
rules education courses, and furthermore, they
advance it to the point where they would come over
and deal with the basketball staff in -- I don't know
if it was a weekly meeting, once a month, but beyond
those, the department meetings, compliance meetings
also started coming over and having more specific
meetings with the basketball staff.

BK: Okay. Let's switch over to the


meals. Kind of the question there is -- kind of this
general idea that if a potential student athlete was
there kind of at this particular moment when a
workout ended and the student athletes were heading
up to the cafeteria, you know, you kind of made it
sound as if that was not a routine event, but it
happened from time to time; is that a fair -- fair
characterization?

GM: Yes.

BK: When the coaches saw that, was


there some sort of acknowledgment of it, or was it
kind of an after the fact, hey, maybe this kid
shouldn't have had a meal thing?

GM: It was just -- you know, it was


after the fact type of thing. And you just left it
alone.



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BK: Okay. And by leaving it alone,


meaning you didn't report that up the chain to the
head coach or to compliance?

GM: Say that again?

BK: And by leaving it alone, I take


that to mean you didn't report that up the chain
either to the head coach or maybe even directly to
compliance?

GM: The head coach -- what I'm


telling you is all of us at one point in time
probably saw it happen, and if it was after the fact,
which -- which many times it was, then it was a
predicament to try to tell somebody you're
hosting on a visit to, you know, put your food back,
you know, get out of here, you can't eat. So it just
didn't get reported.

BK: Okay. And, you know, I think


what I'm trying to get at is, say you or another
member of the coaching staff saw it, it's not
something that you would say, go to Coach Ollie about
and he would hold on to it, it's just kind of the
acknowledgment that this maybe occurred, and we're
just going to keep it to ourselves?

GM: (Unintelligible) with Coach


Ollie's involvement, yeah.

BK: Right. And so if Coach Ollie saw


it, he's obviously not reporting it to you, and if
you saw it, you're not reporting it to him; right?

AF: Brian, I didn't hear the last


part of your question. Can you --

BK: Sorry. I apologize. What I'm


trying to get at, and I think Coach Miller's doing
the best he can with what I assume are -- is kind of
a tough connection here. But the idea is that this
is not something that the coaching staff is notifying
each other about as they go, it's -- if an individual
coach notices something, they're keeping that



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information to themselves for the most part?

DC: If you're wanting to characterize


what he said was that those situations were not
planned. They were not organized. They just
occurred. All of the coaches at one point or another
saw that it occurred, but it had occurred, and so
they didn't run it up the chain any further than
that.

BK: Right. And that's what I was


hoping to make sure that that was -- that my
understanding was correct.

GM: That's perfect.

BK: Okay. All right. Then I


appreciate it. I don't have anything further there.

RR: I just want to clarify on that


note, coach, you say that Coach Ollie was in fact --
Coach Ollie was being kept in the dark about -- that
this was occurring; is that correct or --

GM: No, he wasn't.

RR: He was aware that -- that this


occurred on occasion?

GM: Yes.

RR: All right. Let's switch gears --

JT: When you talked about the pickup


basketball games, Coach Miller, and I think you said
your offices were above the court. Do you recall any
time in which either PSAs were on campus
participating in pickup basketball games because they
were visiting campus, on official visit, do you
recall coaches leaving their office, coming on the
courts, and observing those pickup games?

GM: Like conversations in the


gymnasium with other people over a period of time and
then leaving the gym. But actually, you know,
evaluating, no. So, I mean, that's -- that's the



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gray area, but that's what occurred, you know. So


you might go down and talk to somebody who's with a
recruit as part of the recruiting process, you go to
the gym and talk for a few minutes and then go back
to your office or go elsewhere.

JT: But not --

GM: So we were in the gym at times,


yes, while a pickup game was going on, yes.

JT: But not in a conscious effort --

GM: Yes.

JT: -- to look at --

GM: Correct.

JT: -- a prospect and evaluate that


prospect's participation or play?

GM: Yeah. Yes. I agree with that.

JT: Okay. Fair enough. Sorry.

RR: Coach, and I think --

BK: Coach, just to clarify that


because I'm worried about the transcript down the
road. Yes, there was no conscious effort to
evaluate, or yes there was a conscious effort to
evaluate?

GM: In my opinion, there was not a


conscious effort to evaluate, just an effort to
conversate with somebody in the gym that might have
been connected with a prospect, a parent sitting
there watching his son play pickup or a coach, using
that as an example. So, you know, would not be
sitting in the gym for the entire pickup, you know,
whatever. Could be in there talking for ten minutes
and then, you know, instead of leaving a recruit's
parents there for an hour and a half of pickup
without -- does that help?

 

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BK: Yes. And again, I was just


trying to clarify what it was you were answering yes
to.

RR: And we might have actually talked


a little bit about this, but just -- I want to touch
on it at least. How many non-coaching staff members
-- which I know that people came into the program
(unintelligible). How many non-coaching staff
members would you say were on staff at any given
time? Approximately?

AF: At what point during his tenure?

RR: I mean, just throughout your


time, what was the average --?

GM: Well the number grew because


there was a few positions that were created. So
Danny Griffin's position was created. Coach Calhoun
did not have that position. Dave Sevush, I believe
was a graduate assist president, and then when his
time was up as a graduate assistant, he -- his new
title, whatever that was, was created. Strength and
coach -- strength and conditioning coach specific to
men's basketball was created with Coach Ollie.
Correct me if --

AF: No, I think you're accurate.

GM: So the number grew by maybe two


positions. So then in the last couple of years, I
would say there would be, you know, Kevin Freeman,
Dave Sevush, Danny Griffin, and --

AF: Larib.

GM: Larib is Kevin Ollie's


administrative assistant. That was another position.
And then I suppose you could say Travis the strength
coach because prior to Travis, there was more of just
a -- a strength coach who covered more than one
sport. And Kevin was able to hand pick his own
strength coach, which was Travis.

JT: Who was the administrative --




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AF: Larib.

JT: That's the first and last name?

AF: His first name is Larib.


Omara-Otunnu.

JT: The --

AF: The first name is Larib.

JT: Okay.

AF: Last name is Omara-Otunnu.

JT: Okay.

RR: So is that around six


non-coaching staff members, five or six?

GM: Say that again?

AF: Four or five.

RR: Four or five?

AF: Uh-huh.

JT: That's your --

AF: I don't know if we're counting


strength coaches and, you know, he's got an academic
counselor, he's got --

RR: Trainer?

GM: A trainer. (Unintelligible).

RR: Got ya. (Unintelligible) about


five people.

AF: So probably four then.

RR: Got ya. It was reported to us


that some of these non-coaching staff members were

 

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instructed to write down film with players


individually and to go over plays. Do you have any
recollection of that occurring?

GM: Well -- well, Dave Sevush in his


role -- and his responsibilities were in depth as far
as, again, it had to do with drawing up our play
book, with putting together videos to go over after a
practice or a game as a teaching tool. Anything that
had to do with our recruiting, our contacts, our
evaluations, he -- he kept track of all of those
things. He was responsible for it. You know, Kevin
Ollie watched an NBA game and came in the next day
and wanted to maybe a play, you know, Dave would draw
it up in the program we had, we used.
So the players were encouraged to
spend time to go over the play book if they were
having trouble with the play book.

RR: Did you ever see instances --


those instances where they would go over film with
Dave or where he would meet with them about that?

GM: There was -- there was a few


times when I saw kids sitting with him looking at
that.

RR: Do you recall specifically which


student athletes those were?

GM: (Unintelligible).

RR: Do you recall did he ever give


him any feedback, any instruction while they were
reviewing that film?

GM: I wasn't in any of those


sessions. I just know that if you were -- you know,
that he had the play book. That he would -- if they
had any indecision or any problems, to do extra work,
and they were encouraged to see him, and he would go
over the play -- you know, the play that they were
having problems with them.

RR: Who did that directive come from?

 

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GM: All the way up.

RR: Kevin Ollie?

GM: Yeah.

RR: Did he tell the team that or --

GM: Yes, yes. Yeah, he would


encourage periodically at the end of practice or
before practice to get with Dave to go over plays.

RR: And I think we've gone over it


before, but what was Dave's title?

GM: There's many --

AF: Probably director of video


operations.

GM: I think so.

AF: Yeah.

RR: (Unintelligible).

GM: Yeah. His position evolved. I


think he was a graduate assistant that -- you know,
you can only be a graduate assistant for so long, and
Kevin -- he brought value to Kevin. Probably more so
to Kevin than I've seen a lot of coaches for a
position like that. But he was -- he was very, you
know, talented with those (unintelligible).

DC: Come on in.

(Discussion off the record.)

DC: Sorry. That was my associate


letting me know that they were all going home. The
boss gets to stay late.

RR: How long during your -- your


tenure there would you say that that occurred, that
that expectation (unintelligible)?



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GM: It was a lot of these things. I


don't recall many problems or concerns until probably
the year after we won the national championship.

RR: So what year?

GM: So we won -- the last national


championship we won was 2014.

RR: So probably started in '15 --


well, '14/'15 school year?

GM: Yes. But, you know -- but really


probably not even until the following year. '15/'16
pretty much, and '16/'17.

JT: Let me make sure that I'm clear


on the record. So since '15/'16, Kevin Ollie
encouraged UConn men's basketball students to get
with or to converse with Dave Sevush as it relates to
plays that they might have some difficulty with --

GM: Yes.

JT: -- up until the present --

GM: Right. Yes. I think that's fair


because his role increased as the years went on. And
so, you know, I mean, Kevin really utilized him for a
lot of his ideas, to put them in writing and create
video edits as a teaching tool for our players.

JT: Okay.

GM: He used a lot of -- much more --


Kevin utilized film much more than any coach I've
been around as a teaching tool.

JT: Okay.

GM: Typically, you know, after


practice -- or before sometimes. Before a practice
go to the film room, watch practice, have it edited,
use it as a teaching tool, and then practice.

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GM: You know, as well as before and


after games. But he would utilize it to evaluate and
learn from practices too. So again, most of the time
before practice. And then if you were having
trouble, which, you know, there's many -- different
set of plays that you ran and new plays come in, and
he encouraged players to spend time with Dave and go
over the stats.

RR: How often would -- would players


do that?

GM: That's a hard -- that's a hard


question for me to answer. I mean, the that is -- if
we have struggles, Kevin would encourage that more.
So it was very -- it wasn't patterned. There wasn't
consistency. It was when there seemed to be a
problem with a kid struggling and we weren't playing
well, then he made it a point to get with Dave to,
you know -- if you don't know the plays, you're not
going to, you know, play without knowing the plays.
So it was encouraged when necessary.

RR: Would that be a few times during


the season or --

GM: I would say more than a few times


during the season.

RR: More than a few?

GM: Yeah.

RR: If you had to put a number on it,


could you --

GM: It would be hard for me to put a


number on it.

RR: Do you recall -- I think I might


have asked you this, but do you recall any specific
student athletes that met with Dave?

GM: I think that probably most of


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RR: Did -- did any other non-coaching


staff members go over film with student athletes?

GM: I don't think so.

RR: Did any non-coaching staff


members conduct any practices that you know of?

GM: The definition -- I don't know


that they conducted a practice. I think at times
relating to the play book when -- on a few occasions
when the team had a coach -- a captain's practice
get-together on an off day, that there was
non-coaching staff members there to -- I don't even
know if I would say assist, but again, regarding --
you know, some of those get-togethers were to go over
the play book.
So along the same lines as what I'm
talking about with Dave. He would be there to, I
would think, at least sit there and make sure that
they were running them the right way. Whether, you
know -- when those situations occurred, to my
knowledge, none of the certified coaches were around.
Most of the time we were out recruiting.
And I don't -- and it's not -- you
know, to my knowledge, those captain's practices with
non-coaching members there wasn't a frequent habit,
but there's -- there's times when it did happen.

RR: So the captain's practices, did


you say they occurred on off days?

GM: Yes.

RR: So they were --

GM: You know, I -- they were on a day


when we weren't practicing, whether it was a mandated
day or a day when we could practice but we didn't
practice, I don't know. I don't have that
information.

RR: What -- so were those times to go


over plays -- what exactly would you say a captain's
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GM: Well, I -- I think it would


entail the leaders of the team organizing the guys to
get-together to go over plays to better know them. I
don't know.

RR: So is this supposed to be


voluntary?

GM: I would think so, yes. I would


think so, yeah.

RR: But because you said that


non-coaching staff members would attend these
practices?

GM: I don't know how many they


attended, but you were asking me a question, and the
answer is that I'm aware that on at least a few
cases, there were non-coaching staff members in
attendance at those for the purpose of making sure
that they knew the plays. What transpired in that
gym, you know, beyond them being there physically,
were they on the floor giving instructions, I don't
know that. I can't -- I don't know.

RR: So you never heard anybody report


that they were giving instruction or giving any
feedback or anything during that?

GM: No.

RR: Okay. Other than


(unintelligible) --

GM: Just -- right. Correct.

RR: Can you tell me -- do you know


who specifically attended -- what non-coaching staff
members attended those captain's practices?

GM: Well, I know Dave Sevush did. I


don't know if Kevin Freeman did, but I know David
Sevush did.

RR: How -- how do you recall that he



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did?

GM: Because Kevin Ollie was aware


that the team was getting together and has always
given directive to the players to go to Dave to go
over the play book, and that he would be there at
that given -- on that day to -- when they go over the
plays.
Well, again, what -- what his activity
was, I don't know. Was he just sitting there
watching, or was he out there giving instruction, I
don't know. But he definitely went over the play
book with our players on various occasions.

RR: And you said that you don't know,


but Kevin Freeman may have been in attendance?

GM: He may have. I don't know that


he was or he wasn't.

RR: (Unintelligible)?

GM: I don't know. I really don't


know. I don't have any answer to that. He -- I
don't know.

RR: Did he normally sometimes go


where Dave went or --

GM: Yeah, kind of. I would say a lot


of times, yeah. You know, film sessions, team film
sessions, he was in the team film sessions. Scout
report on the road and at home, he's in those
meetings. He's in all of these meetings. So --

RR: And you touched on this. So did


Coach Ollie, was he aware of these captain's
practices?

GM: I believe he was, yes.

RR: And was he aware that Dave was in


attendance at those?

GM: Yes.



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RR: And breaking down film or helping


instruct them on plays?

GM: I believe so.

RR: Did -- other than that, were


there any other non-coaching staff members that you
recall conducting any practice or giving any
instruction?

GM: On our staff? No.

RR: Yes.

GM: No.

RR: Joyce?

JT: Huh-uh?

RR: Brian, did you have any follow-up


on that point?

BK: Just, again, one clarifying


point. When Coach Ollie is telling players to get
with Dave to go over the plays, kind of what's -- to
your knowledge, what's expected in that interaction?

GM: To my knowledge, it was -- most


of the interactions were in a meeting room or an
office and just going over the plays be it through
film or paper -- diagrams on paper.

BK: Okay. And is Dave expected to


kind of walk them through where they need to go when,
show them that on video, that kind of thing?

GM: That's what I believe, yeah.

BK: Okay. And did you ever


specifically witness one of those, you know, play
book discussions?

GM: Yeah. I think he -- you know, he


would -- I think he definitely would utilize diagrams
on paper and video to engage the players and go over

 

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the plays and help them learn the plays if they had
any -- you know, if they needed help.

BK: Okay. And then I want to flash


forward to this conversation -- and just so I'm clear
for it on the record, you said he would definitely do
that, and again, the question was: Did you witness,
you know, one or more of those play book discussions?

GM: I never sat in on one, no.

BK: Okay.

GM: But I -- you know, I definitely


heard the directives on numerous occasions and seen
players walk in to meet for that reason. I have not
sat in on any of those sessions, and I've never been
at a captain's practice where non-coaching staff
members were there in attendance.

BK: Okay. And that's kind of exactly


where I'm headed. The -- when Coach Ollie would tell
Dave -- you know, tell the players to get with Dave
kind of in advance of one of these captain's
practices, can you tell us kind of what the
instruction was from Coach Ollie, kind of what was
said out loud there? And maybe in addition, what you
understood that to mean?

GM: Dave will be there tonight to --


to help you guys go over the plays. And then, you
know, you guys -- on occasions, you know, gave them a
directive to, you know, you got to get with Dave.
Keep on telling you you got to get with Dave to go
over the plays. He's there, you know -- so it was
just -- it was just strongly encouraged at different
times for our players to get with Dave if there was
any indecision or questions about the play book.

BK: Okay. I think that's all I had,


Russell. Thank you.

RR: You're welcome. And just to


clarify on that, so even though you weren't present
for the captain's practices, you -- you heard the
director or heard the instructions about them --




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GM: Right.

RR: Did you hear from people that


they had taken place?

GM: I never had any follow-up


discussion. You know, I just -- it was something at
that at some point in time -- again, I don't have a
date or anything, but early on, it's just
unnecessary. We have coaching staff that can help
with those things, but that's the way he was going to
do things. That was his choice, and he wasn't going
to listen to my advice. You know, reaction, body
language, and attitude to my advice was not accepted,
and it sent a clear message to me to not -- whatever
he was going to do, he was going to do. Just, you
know, stay in my lane and do my job.

RR: And this was a conversation that


you had with Coach Ollie?

GM: At some point in time early on.


You know, early on, yeah, when these -- some of these
things started happening. And specifically, that.

RR: Specifically the captain's


practice --

GM: Well, things like that where --


just having -- you have a certified staff, and we
have a lot of responsibility, but -- and we, as
certified coaches, would, especially in the last
couple of years, the team would be divvied up. So I
would be responsible for -- I was always responsible
for the front-court players and on top over -- well,
team film sessions for position -- as a position
coach, film sessions with the front-court players, as
was the other two certified coaches -- assistant
coaches for the perimeter players.
And we were also -- the players were
divided up amongst us, so I might have been -- had
three or four players where, you know, I was charged
with staying on top, you know, we had an academic
advisor, and they reported to Coach Ollie on a daily,
weekly basis to stay on top of academics. I had

 

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interaction with our academic advisor, know what's


going on in their life, as far as upcoming exams and
papers and progress for which classes, or whatever it
is.
Hopefully stay on top of their
personal life. If there's any problems there with
the family, as well as their -- basketball
development. So it was just another layer of
communication and feedback to Coach Ollie.
(Unintelligible) with the academic advisor and so on
and so forth. So I would think that would be enough.

RR: All right. Glen, I wanted to ask


you about (unintelligible).

GM: Is what?

RR: CARA log. (Unintelligible) that


information.

GM: Right.

RR: I wanted to ask you, do you know


what computer system -- or what process do y'all use
for inputting CARA log?

GM: For --

RR: (Unintelligible).

GM: Oh. You know, there's a number


of (unintelligible) involved in -- in keeping track
of practice hours or even -- you know, evaluations,
recruiting evaluations. Again, those would all be
reported to Dave. Dave would log them in the
JumpForward -- in the JumpForward system, and then we
would -- after that was done, we could put in for our
reimbursements for recruiting.
So pretty much the same with practice
logs and anything compliance-based, as far as that
went, was Dave Sevush and Kevin Freeman. Is that
fair to say?

AF: I think so, yeah.

GM: Yeah.

 

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RR: Was -- I think there was a GA


Connor Desmond (phonetic). Do you recall --

GM: Yes (unintelligible).

RR: Was he ever involved in CARA


logs, making sure that they were inputted?

GM: I don't know what assistance that


whoever, Dave or -- who turned in the practice logs
to you guys, do you know?

AF: Yeah, I think -- I think Connor


may have been involved --

GM: Okay.

AF: When he was there.

JT: Connor?

AF: Yeah. I would have to confirm


with the individual in my office that does that.

RR: But to your knowledge, Kevin


Freeman and David Sevush were kind of your points of
contact?

GM: I didn't have a point of contact


when it came to submitting that information. That's
what -- that was, I assume, one of their duties, to
keep track and report workouts and practice logs and
bring that information to compliance. That wasn't
one of the certified coaches duties.

RR: Beyond that, do you have to keep


any type of record or anything? The certified
coaches didn't have to keep any type of record of
what hours were being --

GM: No, no. I mean, all workouts


were organized and scheduled, and David Sevush, you
know, hosted those and kept track of those. And
then, like, again, who assisted them, who submitted
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know.

RR: It was reported to us that --


that the logs for men's basketball didn't report some
hours, so they were kind of falsified in a way. They
didn't accurately reflect all of the hours for a
given week. Do you have any knowledge of that at
all?

GM: (Unintelligible). I've never


seen what was reported to compliance, as far as that
goes.

RR: Do you --

GM: I don't know.

RR: Did you ever hear any


conversation about not reporting hours or altering
care of the logs, the accountable athletic-related
activities logs in any way?

GM: No. I just know what we did. As


far as activity, I don't know the sum of the hours.
You know, I didn't put much thought into that. You
know, practice, we watched film, the guys strength
trained, you know. We -- the sum of those hours per
week or per month or whatever and what was submitted,
I have no idea:

RR: To your knowledge, did you -- did


the men's basketball program stay within the allotted
hours for a week that are permissible under NCAA
legislation?

GM: I don't know. I mean, there is


an allotted time. You know, what are your
accountable hours, you know, and the sum of those, I
just never really put a lot of thought into that.
It's -- and, you know, we watch a lot
of film, I already told you that. For a college
basketball team, we watched more film than any other
program I've ever been involved with, head coach or
assistant coach.
So, you know, how much, you know, as a
team and those individual -- but a lot of those



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sessions, you know, we didn't go into the day knowing


that that was going to take place. It might be -- we
might come out of a staff meeting today before
practice, and he might -- Kevin -- he meaning Kevin
Ollie might tell Dave Sevush, I need -- you know,
we're watching film, break down practice. You know,
day before a game, and spur of the moment he might
tell Dave Sevush, you know, highlight -- you know,
tag this play, this play, this play, like ten plays,
and then we all of a sudden are watching film before
we practice.
So, you know, my mind is not saying,
oh, we're over our limit. I had no idea.

RR: And as far as maintaining and


making sure that the program was within those limits,
whose responsibility was that?

GM: Again, I don't -- it's -- I


assume it was Kevin Freeman as the director of
basketball administration or Dave Sevush or -- and
maybe Kyle was helping him. Again, that's pretty
(unintelligible). So I can't provide that answer.

RR: But would they preset a schedule


of how long practices should last for or --

GM: Yeah. Yeah, you know, you have a


practice plan, and a lot of coaches invariably
deviate from that plan, it goes over, goes under.
You know, how often do you accomplish what's on the
practice plan in that time frame? It's very
inconsistent.
Players come in for weight lifting
sessions in the morning, schedule around -- around a
class schedule. I didn't -- it wasn't my
responsibility to keep track of those sessions.
So the sum of all of the hours, again,
I wouldn't -- I couldn't give you an accurate answer
to what I think, if we were over or under.

RR: But you think you would know if


you went over the 20 hours a week --

GM: No. No. Not with the way I


operated and my thought -- and who was responsible --



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a lot of people were responsible for those hours. I


could not even tell you if every day I knew -- if
every week I knew how many hours they spent with the
strength coach.
I wasn't -- the staff, most of the
time, was not in the strength-training sessions that
the players were in with the strength coach. So in
order say we were over in a given
week, I would have to know all of that.
If Ricky Moore or Dwayne Killings or
Coach Ollie on their own took a player, had them come
in for an individual film session, I wouldn't -- you
know, I'm not sitting here saying well, he was in
there an hour, so add that on. You know, that's --
I'm not going to be able to give you that
information.

RR: So with the coaches, if they did


do things on their own, you know, have an additional
film session or lengthen the practice, would they
report that back to anyone to record that or
--?

GM: I don't know that any of that


occurred. I don't have an answer for that. You
know, Dave Sevush was aware of, I think, most every
film session as the person who I believe seemed like
he was responsible for documenting most everything
and reporting it to compliance. And again, if Danny
says somebody else was responsible for recording it,
then -- you know, I don't know what the protocol was.
It wasn't -- it wasn't my responsibility.

RR: Was Coach Ollie, what was his


involvement with making sure that the hours weren't
exceeded?

GM: I don't know. I think he just


relied -- he relied on the people who were -- he gave
responsibility to, I would imagine. (Unintelligible).

RR: And you actually -- you already


touched on this a little bit. I think you mentioned
that Dave Sevush was in charge of also recording
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GM: Well, I think -- I think I'd know


-- coaches at different times had difficulty using
the JumpForward system, and I think it came to a
point in time where it was just easier to come back
with our recruiting information and say, okay, Dave,
(unintelligible) each one of us knew where the other
person was going, who they were going to see, but
with a few exceptions.
So you would come back and give the
evaluation -- you know, the evaluation to Dave to
input into the JumpForward system. And then at which
time you could put in for your reimbursement, once it
got approved with compliance.

RR: So at what point -- do you


remember a time frame of when they took that over, or
when they -- had Dave input that?

GM: No.

RR: Was it the last couple of years,


possibly or?

GM: Definitely last year. It could


have been the last couple of years, I'm not sure.

RR: Do you recall did -- it was


reported to us that Coach Ollie directed Dave not to
report some recruiting trips. Do you recall that
ever happening at all?

GM: Well, he -- yeah, that, that's


happened, yeah. I mean, I had an incident, which
compliance is aware of. When I got terminated, I had
some outstanding trips, and I tried to then, because
I didn't have the resources to input, I was going to
ask Dave to put them into the system. So I tried
myself, and had some difficulty, so I called
compliance and asked for -- said I put them in, but I
don't know if they went through, but these are the
trips I took, and could you -- I got some help from
compliance in inputting them into the system so that
I could put in for my reimbursement. And the staff
actually accused me of making up those trips, you
know.
So that went back and forth, and the



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end result was they were approved, and I did get


reimbursed. So there was definitely an effort there
to save some trips based on the number of remaining
days they had during the recruiting period.

RR: So when you say that, what was --


what was said about doing that -- or what was the --

GM: Well, you know, Dave kept track


of a lot of things, as we've discussed, and he would
keep track of the recruiting days. So when you would
come back from a trip and you would report your trip,
he inputs it into the system. He's -- he's keeping
track on his computer of how many remaining days you
have. So as you're getting closer to the maximum,
then you have to be concerned with not going over in
an effort to save the days that you need for the
evaluations.
So I know in my case, to -- to accuse
me of making up those trips was -- I wasn't happy
about that, and I felt they needed -- most of them
were -- were local trips, I think. Or might have
been one or two trips that involved airfare, but.

RR: So was Dave, to your knowledge,


was he ever asked not to report those or not to log
those trips?

GM: I think in my case, I -- you


know, again, one of those things where
(unintelligible). You know, there was an effort to
not report those trips.

RR: To save days?

GM: To save days.

RR: Who was that directive from?

GM: I assume it was from Coach Kevin.

RR: Did you -- how did you hear


about, or how did you learn that that was what he
asked to be done?

GM: I forget. It was just implied



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that that was a directive that he gave.

RR: Was that something that Dave


hinted at to you? Or did Dave ever say that that is
what he was told to do?

GM: Yeah, and I -- I don't -- I don't


know -- I can't recall exactly what was said, but
Dave was in charge of keeping track of the days, and
that's when he made us aware that we only had so many
days left, so if you're going to take some of these
trips, you can't report them.

RR: Was that a practice for, not only


yourself, but for all of the other assistant -- all
of the other assistant coaches?

GM: In some small way, it was


encouraged that, you know, if you're going to take
these, you're going (unintelligible), and you can't
go over. So, you know, if you need to be reimbursed
for a trip, you know, it has to go in the JumpForward
system.

RR: Do you know or do you recall any


other specific examples where another assistant coach
took a trip that was not reported?

GM: I don't.

JT: What year, Coach Miller, did this


occur when you had to go back and forth -- I'm
assuming you had to go back and forth with
compliance, but I don't know that for sure.

GM: Yeah, when I was -- when I was --


so shortly after I was terminated. Usually I would
-- Dave would input the information into JumpForward,
and then a secretary would fill out -- you know, I
would give her the receipts, and she would put
together an expense report once those trips were
inputted into the JumpForward system. And then the
secretary would help with your travel reimbursement
request, fill out that paperwork.
So when I was terminated, I didn't
have access to that, so I -- I then tried to input

 

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the information myself, had some difficulty, so I


called compliance to get some help. And in that
process -- and I probably inputted -- I don't know,
six or eight trips -- or tried to input six or eight
trips, there was a concern, I believe, about the
number of days they had remaining, and it was -- it
insinuated that I made up those trips and didn't
actually take those recruiting trips.
So there was a little back and forth
there, and then the trips got approved for
reimbursement.

JT: Was the concern from compliance


that you didn't take the trips, or was the concern
from -- where did the concern lie? If that question
makes sense. Who had --

GM: I don't know the interaction that


took place between compliance and the basketball
staff and, in particular, Kevin Ollie. I do know
that it got back to me that he told compliance that I
did not take -- or the staff told them. I don't know
if it was Kevin Ollie, Dave Sevush, all of them, or
just Kevin Ollie, that I did not actually take these
trips.

JT: Okay.

GM: Because there was -- how many


remaining days did they have -- at the time they had
worn out their maximum during spring recruiting
period to go times three -- you know, four coaches
being out those number of days. So I'm sure they did
not want those trips to be recorded and those days to
be, you know, to be counted.

JT: Okay. That's all I have.

DC: Oh, I'm sorry.

GM: That's -- you know, I've dealt


with compliance about it before, (unintelligible).
They're well aware of that situation.

JT: Okay.




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RR: Brian, did you have some


follow-ups?

BK: Yes. Coach Miller, just to kind


of follow-up on the timeline of that. I'm a little
bit confused. Was there a conversation that you
specifically had with Dave Sevush about not inputting
the trips into JumpForward?

GM: No. The trips that I submitted?


No.

BK: Okay. And so what I was trying


to figure out is where did you get the impression
that Dave did not submit those trip dates in order
to, you know, save recruiting days?

GM: I got the impression from


compliance.

BK: Right. So I think the facts that


we can all agree on is that you took the trips, but
those trips were not submitted; right?

DC: What he testified to, he took the


trips, and then when he submitted the trips, they
didn't reimburse him for the trips, and the
accusation was that he hasn't taken the trips by
somebody in basketball --

BK: Okay.

DC: -- basketball operations, which


is why he then had to deal with compliance. When
they checked into it, he obviously had receipts for
everything, and they found out that he in fact did
take those trips. And so then, I guess, his concern
was that the reason that basketball initially said he
didn't take those trips was to save days for the
spring period that they could go and, you though,
look at recruits.

BK: Right. I think I understand


that's -- that's certainly the impression that Coach
Miller had. And what I was trying to drill down on
was whether there was a specific conversation that

 

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gave him that impression with Dave Sevush or coach


Ollie.

GM: I wouldn't say anything specific,


no.

BK: Okay. And when exactly were your


conversations with compliance in terms of, you know,
them asking you -- them asking the coaching staff
about the trips and then getting in touch with you
and getting further detail?

GM: Well, I had conversations with


Angie Cretors and -- gosh --

AF: Amanda.

GM: Amanda Hughes in compliance. And


they -- they helped me process those trips. You had
to put the information into the JumpForward system.
And then, you know, whatever interactions,
conversations they had with the basketball office, it
got -- it got back to me that there was an accusation
that I didn't take those trips.

BK: Okay.

GM: The athletic director, to my


knowledge, was aware of it too.

BK: Aware of the -- the situation?

GM: That I did not take the trips.

BK: Okay.

GM: The determination was made that,


you know, when I submitted all the receipts and
everything, that I indeed took the trips, and we're
going to process them and give him his
reimbursements.

BK: Okay. And that was after Coach


Ollie made the decision to terminate you; is that
right?

 

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GM: Yes.

DC: The submissions were also after


that, that's why he had to do it that way instead of
the normal procession --

BK: Right. Right. I was assuming


that the process was post-termination, the entire back
and forth.
I think that's all I have on those
issues --

AF: I have --

BK: -- sorry.

AF: I have one question too. So --


so you said that -- I know the back and forth that we
-- our office had with you on the submissions. So
before that time period, were -- was there, you know,
I guess -- you know, during the academic year when
you were still employed, was there any indication
from Kevin Ollie or Dave to say, no, we're not going
to submit some days to compliance or in the
JumpForward system?

GM: There was -- it was implied that,


you know, if you take these trips, you know, you
can't submit them if they're, you know --

AF: Prior to the --

GM: (Unintelligible). Yes, yes.

AF: Okay.

GM: Towards the end of the season


when we're -- you know, when you really had to
consider, you know, the spring evaluation period, how
many days that's going to consume. You do the math,
and Dave -- you know, Dave kept track of the days and
how many we had left, and, you know, all of those
things.

AF: Okay.



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GM: So --

AF: Thanks.

GM: -- if you're going to take a


trip, you're not going to get reimbursed -- you know,
you should be putting in for a trip that requires a
car ride, you know, as opposed to airfare.
So getting back to your -- do I know
if coaches took -- you know, went on trips and didn't
submit them, I don't know. Could have happened. I
don't know. I don't have a good example of that.

RR: But that -- did -- you said it


was implied, but did Dave, was there a conversation
between you and Dave in which he told you that, you
know, we have to be mindful of the days and if you
take these trips, you cannot -- we can't submit them
for reimbursement, we can't log them?

GM: I don't recall that exact


conversation. I just -- you know, he kept a running
tab on the board in the conference room where we met
every day of how many, you know, days we had left.
That's my -- that's my only recollection.

RR: So did you think that, I mean,


certain trips weren't reported? What indication from
Dave did you get that that was the case?

GM: I don't understand that question.

RR: So, I mean, you said that you


feel like some of the trips were not reported to save
days towards the end of the evaluation -- during the
end of the evaluation period.

GM: Right.

RR: You said you felt that Dave had


been instructed not to submit those for reimbursement
to save the days. Did Dave ever communicate that to
you that that was the case?

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RR: So you based that upon what


occurred --

DC: I believe he said he based it on


the fact that originally when he submitted these
things with receipts, that they were denied, and
there was an accusation that he didn't take the
trips, and that was a conscious effort to save those
days that were lost by processing his receipts for
the trips he took, which had gone through Dave. And
so he was independently putting them in, and because
of that, it messed up whatever system ostensibly they
had going to save however many days they were
savings.
So it was basically his conclusion
from the fact that, I mean, he took the trips, he had
the receipts, he's an honest person, and you know, he
was told that he didn't take these trips. And so,
you know, I think that was -- he found it offensive,
number one; and number two, I mean, you know, given
his long history and everything else, to think that
he was going to, you know, frankly try to steal a
couple of bucks from the school after he had been let
go was offensive to him and was a slight to his
character. And the only justification he could see
was that the school was trying to save -- and I don't
mean the school you, but the basketball program was
trying to save those days so that they could still
use those days. Because once they get it in the
system, then they know they can't use them.

RR: Brian, did you have any further


questions about that?

BK: No, I didn't. No -- I hope you


heard me. I don't have any further questions.

RR: All right. Thanks, Brian. Who


is Dr. Joe Carr?

GM: Sports -- sports psychologist


that was -- he's been contracted to work with the
basketball team (unintelligible).

AF: As far as I can remember.



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GM: Yeah. But he typically comes in,


you know, at the beginning of the year and does a
team building exercise with the team, with the
coaching staff, and follows up periodically
throughout the year by coming to campus or meeting us
on the road when we have, you know, an away game.
And has, you know, sessions individually with the
players and collectively with the team.

RR: Did he ever do any --


(unintelligible). Did ever do any individual
evaluation with student athletes?

GM: I don't -- I don't know that --


you know, what was involved with the interactions,
but yes, he's talked and met with team -- members of
the team individually. Is that what you're asking?

RR: Yes.

GM: Yes.

RR: To your knowledge and your


recollection, did -- did he ever meet with any PSAs
or recruits individually?

GM: I know he had conversations --


it's my understanding he had conversations, I don't
know if he met personally, with I heard
that he had conversations with -- what's his
name, Both of the kids have, you
know, backgrounds where they -- they need counseling.
They need help.

RR: To the best of your recollection,


anybody have an evaluation during their recruitment?

GM: I -- I would say yes.

RR: Who would have asked him to do


that, or how would that have been set up?

GM: Don't know. Don't know if it was


directly, you know, from Kevin Ollie or a point
person -- I would think Kevin Ollie is exclusively
responsible for Dr. Carr. He relies on Dr. Carr. He



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hired Dr. Carr. It was his idea to -- to contract


Dr. Carr out with the team over the years. So I
would assume it was at his direction.

RR: Who would have Dr. Carr have


reported back to after those evaluations?

GM: Certainly -- I would imagine


Kevin and possibly an assistant coach.

RR: But you don't recall exactly --

GM: I don't know. I can't say those


reports happened, I'm just guessing. If he was
giving input back, it would be -- I would assume it
would be to Kevin Ollie.

RR: Do you know an individual by the


name of Derrick Hamilton?

GM: Yes.

RR: Who is he?

GM: What I can tell you about him is


he -- he's a basketball trainer, is what I know.

RR: Did he ever work with UConn


student athletes, men's basketball student athletes?

GM: He did.

RR: When was that, do you recall?

GM: I don't know the exact time


frame, but it was (unintelligible) for sure --
whatever year -- was that

AF: Uh-huh.

GM: So it was during the


season. That's what sticks out in my mind readily
(unintelligible). Whether he was around the last
year or not, I'm not sure.

RR: And would he -- did he have any



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strength and conditioning sessions with student


athletes or -- what was his interaction?

GM: I don't recall if he had any


activity with players in the weight room. He might
have. I don't know for sure. I -- my only
recollection was on the court.

RR: What would he do on the court?

GM: Just -- you know, select players


or -- it could vary from day-to-day who -- you know
basketball-skill development sessions.

RR: And when you say skill


development, is that like skill instruction or doing
drills, what exactly --

GM: Basketball-related drills that


build your skill.

RR: Do you recall how many -- or how


frequent those sessions were?

GM: No. No, I just -- I mean, I just


-- he was around quite a bit that year throughout the
course of -- timeframes, I don't know, but around
quite a bit.

RR: Was the entire team normally


there for those sessions?

GM: You know, I think that's hard for


me to -- I mean, typically if we were in an official
practice, I want to say, you know, he would grab a
few guys out for practice for some extra work.
Preseason, postseason, pretty sure he had some
sessions with the guys then too. Those would --
again, they would be individual or small group.
Could be (unintelligible) could be front-court
players. He worked -- he worked out different guys.
And a lot of it were the guys were motivated or
seeking some extra work.

RR: And do you recall how long those


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GM: Duration for a given day? I


don't know. If I was to guess, I would say, you
know, 45 minutes to an hour.

RR: Were there any other coaches or


staff present for those or -- who all was in
attendance, I guess?

GM: I don't know if you would say the


coaching staff was in attendance every time. The
coaching staff knew he was there and working out
players. So, you know, I don't -- the coaching staff
wasn't involved in the workouts with him, but they
were aware that he was working out at the practice
facility, so.

RR: (Unintelligible) coaches were


aware that he was having these sessions, but they
weren't present for them?

GM: They weren't involved in them.


They might have been watching at times what he was
doing with the players. Other times, they weren't
there. But he was -- you know, he was around and
conducting workouts. So we were all aware that he
was there. There's not one of us that wasn't aware.

RR: To your knowledge, was he ever an


institutional employee?

GM: No. To my knowledge, no.

RR: What was Coach Ollie's


involvement in arranging for Derrick to do these
sessions?

GM: I don't know. But to my


knowledge, the assistant coaches were not involved in
that relationship with him and the organization of
him working with the players. So I think -- I mean,
I don't know if he was a personal friend, how Kevin
got to know him. I don't know. But that's not --
that's not something that was discussed by the staff.

RR: So as far as the person who asked

 

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Derrick to come in and do this, who was that?

GM: It was Kevin.

RR: And would these -- I think you


said they would occur (unintelligible) sometimes --

GM: Yeah, I mean, I recall some


happening out with practice, so I'm sure there was,
you know, sessions in the off-season or preseason
before we started official practice. I mean, that
year he was around quite a bit.

RR: And where would that take place?

GM: In the practice facility.

RR: Do you know if he was compensated


in any way for doing --

GM: I don't -- from a faculty


standpoint, I don't know. I would just assume he
was.

JT: Coach Miller, I wanted to ask you


to go back to Dr. Carr, if you don't mind. I know
you said that he was a sports psychologist, and that
was one of the positions that, I think, Coach Ollie
wanted when he became the --

GM: Position, I don't know --

JT: (Unintelligible).

GM: Dr. Carr works with quite a few


Division 1 teams, Notre Dame, UMass, I mean, he
worked with Ohio State. I mean, his resume goes on
and on. He's worked with professional teams, he's
worked at prisons with people. So that's -- that's
his business. That's what he does, and he's -- to my
knowledge, his subcontract was approved by the
athletic department, whatever his fee -- he had a
contract, so I don't know what he was paid by the
athletic department for him to work with the men's
basketball team. Annie, you can correct me if I'm
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AF: Yeah, he was contracted.

JT: Okay. I think you mentioned that


not only did he meet with individuals and basketball
student athletes, but he also met with
and you think

GM: Yeah, I don't -- I don't know


that he physically met with I know --
I'm pretty sure -- pretty sure that he had
conversations -- because was (unintelligible).
You know, it was -- he was a high-risk kid that
really needed something like Dr. Carr -- or on your
staff, you've got to have someone appointed to him
to, you know, just kind of counsel him and call and
advise him and just keep an eye on him.
So it -- I was told that Kevin had
Dr. Carr get involved with -- with with some
communication with

JT: Was that when was --

GM: That's --

JT: -- was a prospect?

GM: Yes.

JT: Okay.

GM: And that -- you know, in some


form of communication, I do think Boo, Boo Willingham
would have been involved in that communication
because he was the mentor for

JT: Okay.

GM: So everybody knew -- everybody


was on the same page with the concerns that we --
were involved with

JT: And specifically do you know


around the time, or do you have a timeframe that
Dr. Carr would have spoken to that you know of?

 

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GM: I don't. I mean, if I was to


take a guess, you know, once got to
and that whole situation imploded and, you
know, maybe to help the kid out -- it was either
around that time or just after. I don't -- I don't
know the time of year that was, the dates.

JT: Okay. And forgive me for asking


this, but I want to make sure that it's on the
record. As far as the conversation with
since he was a prospect, do you know whether or not
and/or Boo Willingham was sent any sort of bill
for that communication or conversation?

GM: Yeah, no, I don't know. I don't


know, you know, everything that was involved in
Dr. Carr's contract. If something like that, we
would charge -- I have no idea.

JT: Okay.

GM: The structure -- his contract,


the structure.

JT: Would you have a concern as


associate head coach that Dr. Carr, whose been
contracted out as this team psychologist for the
men's basketball at UConn, would you have a concern
that he was communicating with prospects -- or would
that concern you?

GM: Yes, it would definitely raise a


question. I would want an answer before I reached
out to a recruit for sure.

JT: Okay.

GM: Now, would I think potentially it


would be permissible? It wouldn't be 100 percent no
in my mind, but I would definitely want to reach out
and make sure it was permissible before he did that.
Does that answer your question?

JT: Yes. That was my next question.


As it relates to do you know for a
fact that Dr. Carr reached out to

 

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and had a conversation with ?

GM: I don't know for a fact. That's


another one of those, you know, just heard through
conversation. And, you know, different coaches
across the country who know and his
background and the potential problems there. And
people around the program saying that Dr. Carr had
got involved in counseling him. So, you know,
whether it happened or not, I don't know.

JT: Okay. And my last question is


related to Derrick Hamilton. I think you said that
there was an agency or organization that he was
affiliated with or he worked with. Did I hear you?

GM: (Unintelligible).

JT: So Derrick Hamilton, did he have


an independent company or --

GM: I don't -- I just -- I don't know


if he was affiliated with anybody. I don't think he
was. I think he just -- I don't know who else he
works out, if he made a living doing that. You know,
I just know that he worked out our players.

JT: Okay. Those were my only


questions.

AF: This may be a silly question, but


I want to get it on the record, did he use a ball?

GM: Yes.

AF: Okay. And then what was the


frequency of that? You said he was around a lot in
--

GM: Yeah.

AF: How often you think?

GM: On a regular basis. What's


regular, I mean, I don't know. It wasn't -- put it
this way, it wasn't he came in one week for a few



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days. It was --

AF: It was kind of like weeks at a


time?

GM: Yeah. Yes.

AF: Did you know where he resided?

GM: I think he might have stayed in a


hotel on campus. I don't know if he stayed -- where
he stayed when he was in town -- I don't even know
where he's from. He might be from Atlanta.

AF: Okay. That's all I have.

RR: Brian, did you have some


follow-ups?

BK: Yeah. And I -- and I think a lot


of this, Coach Miller, you might not know the answer
to, I just want to see what additional information
you can provide. When Dr. Carr spoke with
I think you said you assumed that Coach Ollie
would have arranged that. Are you aware of that for
a fact, or is that just your assumption?

GM: Assumption.

BK: Okay. Do you know -- and I think


we've already talked about Boo Willingham, if he had
any relationship with Do you know if Boo
Willingham had any specific involvement in getting
those two together, Dr. Carr and

GM: No, I don't know.

BK: And the same for


I think -- you know, I think -- maybe an
easier question because you're not entirely sure if
spoke to Dr. Carr. But again, do you know if
anyone from the coaching staff arranged that
particular interaction?

GM: No. You know, when these


conversations occurred, I really, to be honest with



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you, could have cared less. You know, it wasn't


like, you know, who, where, who did it. I could care
less. I wasn't, you know, working there.

BK: Okay. I think that provides a


little bit of information. You learned about both of
these conversations after your departure; is that
right?

GM: Yes.

BK: Okay. Do you feel comfortable


giving us the source of who told you about Dr. Carr's
interactions with and

GM: No, I don't.

BK: Is it the same type of --


somebody heard it from somebody, hearsay kind of
thing like that?

GM: Again, I guess the only answer I


don't want to give -- I mean, we've already, you
know, discussed how I feel about giving names. But
if you -- if you continue the investigation, just
talk to people in and around the program, and I
think, you know, if people are answering the
questions honestly, then you'll get the information
that you're looking for. I would rather, you know,
have you go that route because I'm already in such a
bad position for my career, it's just -- I'm just not
comfortable giving out names.

BK: And I -- I hope you understand


I'm not asking you for a name. I was just hoping to
get an idea whether there's somebody out there that
has -- besides Dr. Carr and and
-- has specific, firsthand knowledge of
somebody setting up this meeting.

DC: I think he said that if he had --


if he knew the person had specific, firsthand
knowledge, he would tell you their names.

BK: Okay.



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DC: The reason why he doesn't want to


mention the names is because it's not from someone
who said, you know, I was there or, you know, I set
this up, or Kevin told me this happened. You know,
rather it was from the rumor mill or -- you know, not
the rumor mill that -- it's not some guy he runs into
in a Wal-Mart, but these are people who have some
affiliation with, you know, the school, the program,
some knowledge of it, and so he hears it from them,
but it's not like he was at a local mart and he heard
it there. So, you know, it gives it a little more
credence because he heard it that way, but not enough
to want to, you know, jeopardize relationships he has
with people, I think is the way I've described it
previously.

BK: Okay. I understand that. I was,


again, trying to make sure that this is of that
category and not something different.
You called these meetings between
Dr. Carr and and
evaluations. I was hoping that you might be able to
give me some idea of what they entailed. And not
necessarily going into detail about what was
discussed, but kind of what was the purpose of the
conversations between Dr. Carr and and

GM: You know, I don't know the


content of the conversations, if they did indeed
occur. But Dr. Carr's role is to, you know, advise
and help our players -- or UConn's players handle
things emotionally and mature and develop. And he
gives them tools to be successful.
You know, so I assume that if, you
know, and are recruits
that the staff wants in the program and there's some
concerns on any of those fronts, that Dr. Carr has
the expertise to deal with those and help the
coaching staff, help -- more importantly, help those
individuals be successful.
So whatever -- you know, whatever his
skill set is or his technique is, that's probably
what the conversations involved.

BK: Okay. You know, I hate to press



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for a little more detail, but I was hoping you would


be able to tell me whether or not that's him making a
psychologist type evaluation of the student athlete
for a particular purpose, or do you think it's more
along the lines of him giving advice, you know,
here's how you handle a difficult situation, here
are, you know, three or four things to remember to
do, X, Y, Z. Is it a little more of the former, or a
little more of the latter, if you're aware?

DC: A little more of the former or


the latter, if you're aware.

BK: Sure --

GM: If I'm aware? I'm not aware.

BK: Not aware. Okay. Let's move


down to Derrick Hamilton. And I apologize because I
had the same question that Joyce had about a
potential for an agency and kind of caught that same
language. And I unfortunately did not hear it
exactly, your answer to her question. Did -- to your
knowledge, was Derrick Hamilton working for some
specific group, or was he on his own?

GM: I think he was on his own, but I


-- I don't know that to be fact. I just -- I think
he was on his own.

BK: Okay. And do you have any


knowledge of how Coach Ollie and Derrick Hamilton got
in touch with each other?

GM: No.

BK: Was there any rhyme or reason to


when Derrick was on campus? I mean, was it around
certain events or, you know --

GM: I could not make a correlation


to, you know, when and why he was on campus.

BK: Okay. And were you involved --


or was the staff involved or notified when he would
be on campus in advance?



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GM: I wasn't. I don't believe so.


To me, I mean, I just -- I think it was an
arrangement that was between Kevin Ollie and Derrick
Hamilton. The staff, to my knowledge -- and more
specifically, I was not involved in any organization
of him being there nor did I know a schedule of when
he was going to be there.

BK: I apologize. I'm just looking


over my notes for a second. You said that Derrick
Hamilton stayed at a hotel on campus --

GM: I don't know that for a fact. I


just -- I think he -- you know, I vaguely recall him,
you know -- it coming up that he stayed there
occasionally. I don't know.

BK: And I think that kind of relates


to the question that he was on campus for a period of
time, you know, a stretch of time each time he was up
there? He didn't come in for a day and fly home;
correct?

GM: I think that's true -- I think


that's true. You know, it seems that, you know, he
didn't just come for one day and he was gone. I
think when he came, he was there for a few days.

BK: Was he around the coaching staff


in their offices when he wasn't helping folks out in
practice?

GM: He spent time in the offices here


and there. Yeah, he knew -- you know, the coaching
staff interacted with him.

BK: All right. And did y'all


socialize with him outside of -- outside of the
basketball facility?

GM: I mean, I didn't. I don't know


if the other guys did.

BK: Do you know if any of the players


had individual relationships with him?



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GM: I don't believe -- and I could be


wrong. I don't believe any of them did outside of,
you know, just getting in some extra work with him.

BK: All right. I appreciate it.


That's all I had there.

RR: And with regards to Derrick


Hamilton, (unintelligible). When you say he might
have stayed on campus -- at a hotel on campus, is
that the one that we referred to earlier, the only
one that's on campus, the Nathaniel --

GM: Nathan Hale --

JT: Nathan Hale --

GM: (Unintelligible).

RR: And one last little thing,


and do you think they might
recognize Dr. Joe Carr if they were --

GM: If they were questioned?

RR: If they were questioned.

GM: I mean, in -- with I


mean, again, (unintelligible) I think Dr. Carr still
works for the team, so he would have -- he would have
already went through a team building --

RR: He would have seen him on a


different occasion?

GM: Already when he arrived on


campus, so if there was interaction before he
committed or conversations, he knows who he is now,
so he would recall that -- or he should if it
happened.

RR: Okay. Glen, well good news,


we're in the final home stretch here.

(Discussion off the record.)

 

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RR: The last couple of questions are


just about rules education. They're softball
questions for you.
Can you describe for me as a staff,
did y'all have staff compliance meetings with coach
Ollie?

GM: We had compliance meetings with


compliance whenever we had those.

RR: Would compliance come and address


you just as a staff --

GM: Yeah, just as --

RR: -- was it an all-staff meeting?

GM: We would have both.

RR: Okay.

GM: We would have compliance


meetings, and then we would have just basketball
staff meetings periodically with compliance.

RR: Would you say that the staff was


educated on (inaudible) in regards to recruiting,
playing and practice (unintelligible), I mean,
countable athletic related activities, the areas
that we've talked about today?

GM: I would say so, yes.

RR: How often were those meetings


with compliance?

GM: Again, I don't -- I don't know


exactly, but, you know, especially in the last year
or two, they would -- compliance would come over to
our facility and have meetings. I don't know if they
were once or twice a month. I mean, it was frequent
enough for us to -- and they were accessible on a
daily basis should there be questions.

RR: And my next question you already




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answered -- so you felt comfortable reaching out to


compliance?

GM: Very much so.

RR: Who was your primary contact


there?

GM: Angie, Annie, Kristin. I spent a


lot of time with Kristin because a lot of my
questions were -- involved transcripts with some of
the kids I was recruiting at, you know -- again, like
situation. You know, from year to year, I
was recruiting him , the coaches at
had some questions about the classes he
needed to take going forward each year, and Kristin
would get those transcripts and get the feedback that
we were looking for to keep him on the track he
needed to be on to be eligible.
So that -- using that as an example.
So they're very accessible in my interactions with
them -- with the whole staff.

RR: So you felt like if you had a


question about permissibility or something, you could
reach out --

GM: Yes.

RR: -- and they would let you know if


it was or not?

GM: Yes.

RR: What was Coach Ollie -- I know


this is a very broad question, but what was his
approach -- or is his approach to compliance? What
did he tell you as a staff?

GM: You know, he -- he wanted Dave


Sevush to document it, you know, meetings that we
have with compliance, conversations we've had. I
don't know if he did or he didn't, but he thought
that was valuable. He was advised to do that. How
in depth those records were of conversations or
meetings we had, I don't know.

 

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RR: Did he encourage the staff to


reach out to compliance if they had questions?

GM: I think on occasion, yes, yes.


And certainly individually. I speak for myself. If
I had a question that I needed -- that I didn't have
the answer to, I would definitely ask.

JT: (Unintelligible). I don't have


anything.

RR: Brian, did you have any follow-up


there?

BK: Not necessarily on the compliance


front, but I just wanted to raise one additional
issue. So, Russell, make sure you're finished there,
and then I'll go into a few final issues.

RR: Yes, I'm -- I have just one last


overall question, but you can go forward with the
follow-up.

BK: Okay. Coach, I just want to make


sure that it's clear because I think you've
referenced it a couple of times throughout the
interview, but obviously this is not the first time
you've mentioned a few of these things -- a few of
these issues to the university. But the university
reached out to you in the past -- I actually don't
know the exact dates, but the past several weeks, to
conduct some follow-up interviews related to the FBI
investigation; correct?

GM: Yes.

BK: All right. And prior -- and as I


mentioned, you mentioned three or four of the issues
we discussed today to the folks on campus at that
point; correct?

AF: Brian, can you repeat the


question again?

BK: Sure. And I apologize for the

 

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connection. But during that phone conversation, I


just wanted to be clear that you mentioned a few of
these issues to compliance for UConn when they
reached out to you?

GM: Well, a few of these issues came


up because of the questions that were -- that were
asked.

BK: Right. And you gave information


to them kind of consistent with what you've told us
today?

GM: Yes. So answering the questions


that they asked, not me bringing up issues. And
answering the questions that were asked, I think
there's some overlap from the questions that were
asked today.

BK: Okay. And the only follow-up I


had is were there any other reports that you were
aware of that related to these same issues that came
to compliance either while you were a staff member or
as a -- after your separation from the university?

DC: When you say that, are you


talking about has he heard other rumors, is that what
you're asking?

BK: No. I apologize. That was a


poorly worded question. What I was asking was
whether or not there were -- whether or not coach had
made any specific reports to compliance on these
particular issues while he was still employed by
UConn.

DC: I think part of the -- what he


said is that some of the stuff that he's talked about
here today didn't come up until after he had left
UConn, so he wouldn't have been able to --

BK: Right.

DC: -- make reports while he was at


UConn. And I think the other thing that everybody
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Glen some credit for he's a very reluctant witness


here today. I mean, he's in a tough position having
gotten laid off the way he did. And then trying to
get a job, you know, another job in the field. And
so the last thing he, frankly, wants is people to,
you know, think that he's a bad knot in the program,
which he isn't. He loves the program. He's been a
loyal Uconnee (sic). He attended UConn, he coached
there. You know, he's part of the family.
I mean, so he's not in any way, as you
can tell by the timeframe that's passed between when
he was let go at UConn and now. This is not in any
way him seeking out people to try to get some
revenge. He's here because he was asked to be here
just like when your compliance asked him to speak to
them, he spoke to them. I mean, he's cooperating.
But, you know, it's not a situation
where, you know, he wants to do any more than,
frankly, answer the questions he's asked because it's
a situation where it's a lose/lose for him. I mean,
and so that's -- that's it. I mean, he's going to be
cooperative. He'll do whatever UConn compliance
needs, whatever the NCAA needs. If the FBI were to
contact him, he'll do whatever, you know, they need.
He's being honest. But, you know, he's not looking
to -- to, you know, make trouble where he doesn't
need to, frankly.

BK: No, and I appreciate that. I


think we can all tell by the fact that we're still
talking five hours after we began that he -- he's
certainly helping and said a lot here.
I just wanted to confirm that there
weren't any reports that he had made previously that
touched on any of these issues. And so I think the
answer to that question is no; is that right?

DC: I mean, I think the reports he's


made to UConn to the compliance office -- I was
looking in one of those occasions, clearly you guys
have documentation -- and, you know, again, it wasn't
a report that he made. It was in response to you
guys contacting him. I don't think he's made any,
you know, reports where he's called and he's said,
here's these problems. I want to tell you about
these problems.

 

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He has instead responded to questions


from your compliance department as well as the NCAA
about information that you guys have all garnered,
however you garnered it. And so he's being honest
about that stuff.
I think very much like you said
previously, the problem with some of this stuff is
that, you know, these are technical violations -- the
stuff that he has firsthand knowledge of, not the
$30,000 or things like that. But the stuff he has
firsthand knowledge of are, for the most part,
technical violations that if he reported, what
probably would have happened, you know, the coach
would have gotten a warning or, you know, don't do
this again or a little suspension or something on his
record, and he would have gotten fired.
I mean, you know, that's kind of the
problem with this whole thing. And I see it a lot.
I do a lot of federal and state criminal work as well
as civil work. I mean, you see it a lot, you know,
where somebody is a whistle blower, and what happens
to the people he blows the whistle on? Not much.
And what happens to the person who blows the whistle?
They get fired, and they never get a job again.
And so, you know, there's no built in
safeguards for anybody in these situations, and so
they're reluctant. And I think that that's clearly
the situation here, that, you know, he's answered
questions that he was asked. I don't believe he's
ever made any reports on his own.

BK: Okay. And I appreciate that.


That's all the information I needed there. I'm
trying to -- checking over my notes one last time to
make sure I have covered the waterfront. All right.
I don't think I have anything further. So I think,
Russell, it's all yours.

JT: No, no, you go. You go. I'll


ask if you don't ask.

RR: Okay. Glen, are there any other


possible violations of NCAA legislation that occurred
that you have -- by the UConn men's basketball team
that we have not discussed today that you have
knowledge of?

 

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GM: Not that I'm aware of.

RR: Okay. Do you have possession of


or control over any documents or anything that could
corroborate anything that we've talked about today
that you would be willing to provide to us?

GM: I don't believe so. I'll need


time to reflect, but right now, I'm trying to think
in my mind of everything we've talked about, and I
don't believe so.

RR: Okay.

DC: And the only thing I would ask is


that, you know, there are some things covered by the
attorney-client privilege. You know, I've been
Glen's friends for many years. I've been his
attorney for many years also. So he has put together
some materials for me specifically in contemplation
of potential lawsuits and other such things, which
wouldn't be covered by what you're asking. It's
documentation he has made for my benefit, and so, you
know, that's not included in what you're asking for.
I'm just making that clear, that there are such
materials, and if there's ever a need to use them, I
don't want this to, you know, seem like he was not
being truthful here today.

RR: No.

DC: Because he was.

JT: Coach Miller, you have a notepad


here present in this interview --

DC: I touched with him on that. He


brought that in case he needed to take notes about
anything -- if he was asked to provide any other
information or do anything. That's why he has it.
It's not filled with any materials (unintelligible).

JT: Okay. I just want to make sure I


get the question on the record. You know where I'm
going --

 

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DC: Yes.

JT: I just want to make sure there


isn't anything in your notebook that you would like
to provide for us today.

GM: Nothing at all related to today.

JT: And there's nothing written down


in the notebook that we failed to ask you that you
would like to talk to us about?

GM: No.

JT: Thank you.

AF: I don't have anything else, no.

DC: I have nothing further.

RR: Brian, do you have anything


further?

BK: No, that's it.

RR: We have the last few closing


acknowledgements, and then we will be done. Before we
conclude, do you have anything else you would like to
add or clarify today?

GM: No.

RR: So the last thing I need to tell


you is that the NCAA legislation requires that you
help protect the integrity; therefore, as we continue
-- as the investigation continues, you are not
permitted to speak with others about what we
discussed here today.

DC: And just so we're clear on that,


does that mean that if UConn compliance wants to
talk, we have to decline that as a result of this? I
just want to be clear on that in case -- and I'm not
saying that you would ask him --

 

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AF: Uh-huh.

DC: -- but just in case they do.

RR: Well, they would go through their


counsel to schedule an interview, and we would all be
looped in --

DC: Okay.

RR: -- on that. So we would


coordinate that all together.

DC: Okay.

BK: Yeah, just --

DC: (Unintelligible) or anybody like


that. So this doesn't apply in that situation --

JT: It doesn't apply. And, Brian, if


I'm not mistaken, I think both Tom and Russell
discussed with not only yourself, but administration
at compliance that we would like to be -- we're doing
a collaborative investigation, so we hope that that
means that UConn doesn't participate in any
additional investigation without the NCAA being
present or having knowledge of that. Is that -- is
that my understanding? Is that still correct?

BK: That is still correct. And


that's the point I wanted to clarify, that with an
open NCAA investigation, unless it's completely
unrelated to any of these issues, and I doubt it
would be, then the NCAA would be involved in any
further outreach we would have.

JT: Fair enough.

DC: Back to reading.

GM: No, that's a good question. So


if you contacted our athletic director
(unintelligible) --

DC: Yes.

 

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GM: Jim Calhoun is my boss, and so


this applies to both of them, the last -- you know,
as far as not discussing any (unintelligible)?

JT: Discussed here?

GM: Yeah.

JT: Yes. So if you could please keep


that confidential, so no mention of our interview
topics with St. Joseph's or anyone outside of this
room.

DC: All you can tell them is that you


had an interview today.

GM: Right. Okay.

RR: And we explained to your athletic


director that he was not allowed in today, and that
we wouldn't be informing him about any of it.

GM: (Unintelligible). Okay.

RR: I'm just going to repeat just for


the record. Therefore, as the investigation
continues, you are not permitted to speak with others
about what we discussed today or any information
related to this investigation except that you may
speak with your personal legal counsel, others
present in the room, and myself, which
(unintelligible).
Failure to protect the integrity --
integrity of this investigation could result in an
allegation that you violated the principles of
ethical conduct and/or the cooperative principles, do
you understand that?

GM: Yes.

RR: At some point after the NCAA


completes its investigation, someone else involved
as a party in this case or their attorney, legal
counsel, or representative may request to interview
you about matters related to this case, and we

 

Ollie Admin 0539


encourage you to speak with them just as you've


agreed to speak with us. This does not include
representatives from the media.
If you do have any questions about who
you can or cannot talk to, please feel free to reach
out to me and Tom. We would be happy to answer any
of those questions.
Do you have any final questions for
us?

GM: I don't.

RR: Okay.

AF: I have one question. So this all


relates to Glen. What about in terms of me informing
our athletic director of anything that was discussed?
Or anyone else on our campus?

RR: Well, I mean, we would say what


was discussed here today between your counsel and
your AD, that tight circle.

BK: Sorry, Russell, could you say


that again? And maybe it's something better
discussed off the record.

RR: As me and Tom have discussed


before, we ask that the institution keep everything
that's discussed in interviewing between the counsel,
the AD, and Annie in compliance to maintain that sub
tight circle and not discuss any information outside
of that.

BK: All right. Okay.

JT: Brian, what -- Brian, what we


would ask is that if you feel it necessary -- so for
example, if you feel it necessary to talk to -- I'm
not sure if UConn has a board of (unintelligible) --
or your president, we would ask that you contact us
before any such conversations take place.

BK: Yeah, that's understood. I


appreciate that. I just did not hear what Russell
said, and wanted to make sure I have a full




Ollie Admin 0540


understanding of what's being conveyed.

JT: Okay.

RR: So does that make sense, Brian?

BK: It does.

AF: Yeah, and that's the details of


this interview, this five-hour and a half interview.
Okay. So and what about -- so my direct supervisor
or COO Beth Goetz, I mean, she reports directly to
the athletic director --

RR: We included her because she was


in our official conversation.

AF: Okay. Perfect.

RR: Do you have any final questions


for us?

GM: I don't.

RR: Okay. Then I will note for the


record that this interview concluded at 6:37 p.m.
eastern time. Thank you so much, sir. We appreciate
it.

 

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INTERVIEW OF RICKY MOORE
UNIVERSITY OF CONNECTICUT
FEBRUARY 27, 2018

RR: I'd like to note that this


interview is being recorded, but prior to
going on the record, I asked Coach Ricky Moore
if it was okay to record today, and you said
it was; is that correct, Coach?

RM: That's correct.

RR: Okay. And I also wanted to note


for the record that Coach Moore is also
recording this interview and that we have a
verbal agreement that he keep the recording
confidential pursuant to Division I bylaw
19.5.8. And that he has agreed not to share
that recording with any third parties; is that
correct, Coach?

RM: That's correct.

RR: Okay. Also want to note that we


have a standing agreement with Clint and the
institution to keep their recording confidential; is
that correct, Clint?

CS: That's correct.

RR: Okay. Prior to going on the


record, you received a formed entitled the
NCAA interview notice form. Did you have a
chance to read that form?

RM: Yes, I did.

RR: Okay. Do you understand that the


purpose of this interview is to determine
whether you have any knowledge of or

Ollie Admin 0542


involvement in any violations of NCAA
legislation?

RM: That's correct.

RR: Do you understand that you may be


represented by personal legal counsel during
this interview?

RM: Yes.

RR: Okay. Do you understand that


NCAA bylaw 10.1 obligates you to provide
truthful and complete information in this
interview?

RM: That's correct.

RR: Do you understand that if it is


ever determined that you provided false or
misleading information or withheld information
in this interview, that this could constitute
a violation of the NCAA principles of ethical
conduct and could impact your athletically
related duties as a staff member at an NCAA
institution?

RM: Yes.

RR: Do you understand that


information provided during this interview may
be shared with other NCAA departments?

RM: Yes.

RR: Okay. Do you have any questions


regarding any part of the interview notice
form?

RM: No questions.

RR: Okay. Did you sign and date that


form?
RM: Yes.

RR: Okay. Thank you. I told you it


was kind of the same thing, but just had to go
over it really quick. All right. Coach, just

Ollie Admin 0543


to start out, what's a good phone number to
contact you at?

RM: (860)617-4687.

RR: Okay. And what's a good email


address for you?

RM: Ricky.moore@uconn.edu.

RR: Okay. Awesome. And Coach, I


think we talked about this a little bit off
the record, but if you would, kind of run us
through what's your coaching background?

RM: Well, in 2010, I spent two years


at Dartmouth College. And then after I
finished there, I ended up coming to UConn as
assistant operations and then I -- the
following year, I moved up and I've been here
for five years now. This is my fifth year
so --

RR: Okay. And are you a former


student athlete?

RM: Yes, I am a former student


athlete. I went to school here from 1995 to
1999.

RR: Okay. Got you. And if you


could, kind of as assistant coach, what --
what are your duties currently here at UConn?

RM: It's a lot.

RR: Right.

RM: But basically, recruiting, of


course. Skill development on the floor,
mentoring the kids off the court.
Scheduling -- help scheduling practice. You
know, basically watching film with the guys.
So it goes -- I mean, it's a never ending -- a
never ending job.
And when I say never ending because you're
always looking at the next class, you know.
So once we finish with a class of seniors
you're looking for -- like, right now, 2019
kids, so 2020, so you're always recruiting and

Ollie Admin 0544


that never ends so --

RR: All right. Got you. And the


time that you've been here, has that all been
under head coach Kevin Ollie?

RM: Yes. Coach Calhoun retired and


when he retired, I came in as assistant
operations.
So Kevin took over as head coach. I think
George Blaney, Karl Hobbs, and Glenn Miller
were here. Kevin Freeman was the operations
guy who had already been here and then I was
under Kevin Freeman as an assistant
operations.

RR: Okay. And then after how long


did you move up to assistant?

RM: A year.

RR: A year.

RM: Yes, a year.

RR: And kind of if you could, how


does Coach Ollie divide the workload amongst
his assistant coaches; like, how does that --

RM: Well, we have three guys that


basically we're responsible for mentoring
usually. And that took place probably about
three years ago.
And so basically, those guys, we kind of
keep up with their academics, how they're
doing academically and then just their
everyday life. And families, how their
families are doing and -- and then with the
scouts, we kind of break it up -- the
assistant coaches, we break it up. He gave
us -- he just told us to take care of them.
We kind of break it up.
We even the games out and then we'll do --
every guy has, like, eight, nine games a
piece. And so we take turns doing the scouts,
so I mean, I think that's typically how it
works at most schools.

Ollie Admin 0545


RR: Uh-huh. And what is that;
exactly what do you do?

RM: Well, basically, you watch films.


So if I have -- just say I have Temple scout,
I'll watch three or four games prior to when
we play them. And then you break down those
films.
You go over it in practice and kind of show
the guys what plays they run. Their
tendencies, what they like to do, their
weaknesses and things of that nature.
And so it probably takes -- I mean, it's a
ton of work, but the reason we stagger it from
different coaches is so it gives you time to
prep for the next scouting.
So the same coach isn't having to do the
scout over and over because it's kind of tough
to do that and also go out and recruit.

RR: Okay. Got you. So it's on kind


of a rotation-type thing?

RM: Right. Right.

RR: Very good. All right. Coach, we


want to kind of move into just -- I know this
is a very broad question here, but if you
could, kind of walk me through -- I know no
two practices are the same.

RM: Right.

RR: But what's -- on an average day,


what do players have as far as like when they
have to report for practice all the way
through the end?

RM: Typically, like, if we practice,


let's say, at 2:00 o'clock, guys -- the
freshman, I think, come in an hour before to
get taped. Maybe weights -- and that varies
because sometimes the whole entire team lifts
weights, so that could vary.
But typically, the freshman have to be here

Ollie Admin 0546


an hour before and then the sophomores 45
minutes before, juniors and seniors, 30
minutes before to get taped so that everybody
isn't running in the training room at the same
time to get taped.
Like, 15 minutes before practice and then
everybody is late, but that's typically about
an hour before, guys will start coming in.
And then in practice, we usually go about
an hour and 45 to two hours. And that differs
every day, just depending on what we need to
work on.
So you know, we kind of do the same type of
stretch or warmup to get the guys loose and
then after that, you know, we'll have a
practice plan, but we can -- we do -- that can
change, you know, so I can't tell you we do
this, this, and this every day.

RR: Right.

RM: It's just a -- that structure


kind of changes during the course of practice.
And it depends on how the guys played the
previous game. So if we didn't rebound well,
we'll be in rebounding drills early so --

RR: Got you. So do y'all -- I think


you mentioned. Do y'all have film that the
team normally watches?

RM: Yeah, we'll watch film. If we


play a game -- the coaches, we'll -- before
the guys come in, we'll meet for about an hour
or so and -- hour and a half, and we'll watch,
you know, things we did wrong, put all those
clips together and then we'll watch it with
the team as a coaching staff.
And then go out and practice right after
that. Just depending on -- and we don't do
that all the -- we just, maybe, do that after
a game, typically. We'll do that after a game
and that's it.

RR: Got you. How long do those film


sessions normally last?

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RM: Probably about 20 minutes, maybe.

RR: And then I think you said the


team, do they have like warmup at the
beginning of practice, stretching, that type
of thing?

RM: Yes. Stretch -- I think Ed


stretches them for about ten minutes, 15
minutes at most. But unusually about ten
minutes, he'll get them going, trying to get
them loose.

RR: Okay. And Ed is?

RM: Our new strength and conditioning


guy.

RR: Okay. And that was my next


question is does the strength and conditioning
coach lead that --

RM: Yes.

RR: -- so I think that answers that.


And has that been the same through --

RM: Since I've been here, yeah.

RR: -- different? Okay.

RM: We've gone through a few strength


and conditioning coaches. Guys have gotten,
you know, better opportunities and have taken
them and then one other strength and
conditioning guy just wasn't the right fit for
them -- you know, with the guys because, you
know, he was -- just different types of
student athletes today. You know, once you
get here, if that doesn't work out, then you
know, of course you have to make a change
so --

RR: Wanted to ask -- and I think you


mentioned it, about the practice plan. Is
there a practice plan that's put together; how

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does that --

RM: Well, we sit as coaches and we


come up with the practice plan and typically,
this year, the assistant coaches, we've been
doing it much more.
So we'll come up with the practice plan and
then Kev will see it and he'll (inaudible) it down and if
he doesn't like the order of the practice
plan -- and basically why I say we've been
doing it, we've been starting on the practice
plan just to save us time.
Because you know, I think the more film we
watch as coaches, it's better. So we try to
save some time and be more time efficient by
the assistant coaches throwing out some ideas.
We'll put it on the practice plan and then
Coach will come look at it and then he'll let
us know what he wants to do.

RR: Okay. Can -- I think I have one.


Can I show it to you and see if that's -- make
sure that's what we're thinking?

RM: Yes. Uh-huh.

RR: Okay. So just for the record,


showing Coach Moore an exhibit. I think it
is -- was bates stamped as Document 1160.
Is that kind of a practice plan that the
coaches would put together or --

RM: Yeah. This is first day of


practice. So I always, the first day of
practice goes longer, so this is not a typical
practice plan.

RR: Okay.

RM: This is one that's only on the


first day of practice. So every year, we'll
have a practice plan that looks like this. So
this is not really our typical practice day.
But -- but this is our first day of practice.
I know -- and I definitely know what that
looks like.

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RR: Okay. So let me try to find --
this document is Bates stamped as UConn 1184.
And I'm showing this to Coach Moore as well.
I think this is dated as November 6th, 2015.

RM: Now, that looks like a practice


plan.

RR: Okay. There we go.

RM: Yes.

RR: That's more in season, right?

RM: Correct.

RR: Okay. So is that something, I


think, that you were describing that, like,
the coaches are putting together now, kind
of --

RM: Yeah. I think we've started to


do that and we just realized it's time
consuming -- just time efficient to do it this
way where the assistant coaches do it.
And like I say, I've been here for five
years, and you know, we could kind of wait on
Coach to come in and tell us what he wanted
and then you know, as of the last -- and you
know, we've -- I just think the cohesiveness
of the staff has gotten better.
And so we kind of feed off of each other's
ideas where as one particular guy saying I'm
going to do the -- you know.

RR: Right.

RM: So that that -- that sort of


thing.

RR: Okay. Who would -- because these


are dated from back in 2015. Who used to put
these together or do these?

RM: Well, we with did them with Coach

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in the room.

RR: Okay.

RM: So -- typically, it was always --


we waited until we met and then Coach -- we
would go over practice then.

RR: Okay. So were these done the day


of, like, before practice or --

RM: Sometime, yes. Yes. Sometimes


we would do them the day before and then
sometimes we would do them the day of, in the
morning.
So if we practiced at, say, 2:00, we would
probably start meeting at 11:00, 12:00. And
then try to get it done. But like I said, on
top of that, we're trying to watch film from
the games and you know, it's just --

RR: Right.

RM: It's just time consuming if you


don't -- you know, we would have to,
basically, start at 9:00 in the morning, go
over practice, figure out the film.
So we just found it better, as assistant
coaches, just to start on it and throughout
some ideas, you know, from some of the
mistakes we might have made during the games.
And then, as assistant coaches, we will kind
of meet before Kev gets in there and then go
over a few thing, so.

RR: Okay. Got you. And I think you


mentioned it earlier, but did practice
normally go exactly as the practice plan is
laid out?

RM: No. that can vary. And what I


mean by vary is it just -- he may just -- it
says big and littles. Bigs and littles may be
up here, you know, and full court two-on-two
may be down -- it's just he has a feel from
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adjust to the guys.
And the most important thing is trying to
keep them engaged and keep them with a high
energy and effort level and -- during
practice.
So you've got to kind of manipulate where
you're going to have different drills.

RR: Right. How did y'all come up


with the time used column here? Like, the
times for each thing?

RM: So that's how much time we spend


on those drills.

RR: Okay.

RM: So we don't necessarily look at


it as we're going to go 15 minutes. We may
say three minutes or four minutes, but it may
take ten minutes, you know, so when we plan
the practice, it may -- this says two hours
and eight minutes.
So some of these drills went, you know,
over. So practice might have been planned for
an hour and 45, but it ended up being two
hours and eight minutes.

RR: Okay. So were the times added


after practice?

RM: Times are always added after


practice.

RR: Okay.

RM: Yeah.

RR: So who would keep up with how


long each drill was?

RM: Now, that, I do not know.

RR: Okay.

RM: Now you're going out of -- I have

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no idea. Like, after practice, I'm usually,
you know -- I may shoot with a guy for about a
minute, like, if CV says he wants to shoot for
five minutes, I'll rebound for him. And then
he goes in -- or whoever it may be, but after
that, I don't know. I don't go back upstairs
and figure that stuff -- I just see -- I get
this sheet after practice in my mailbox and I
just put them -- I usually put them in a
folder.

RR: Okay.

RM: You know, just to try to figure


out if I want to look at practice in two weeks
or a month or now, just to see the things we
did. Because if we had some -- if we were
successful and we were winning, I want to see
what we were doing in practice.

RR: Okay. So do you know who's


putting that in your box?

RM: I think one of the managers at


the time. And we have up to 20 managers, so I
have no idea. You know, I wasn't there to --
like I said, I'm not upstairs or if they put
it in, if I've already left, because I have
two kids, so I'm rushing out. They play
sports. I don't know, when I come back,
sometimes in the morning, it's in my mailbox.
Or if I come back after practice, it may be in
my mailbox, so --

RR: Okay. Go you. Do you know, are


the managers keeping time or --

RM: I have no idea.

RR: Okay. That's fine. But just to


confirm kind of what you told me. So just to
make sure, so you said assistant coaches and
Coach Ollie together would kind of come up
with a practice plan before practice?

RM: Right.

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RR: Kind of just a different order of
different things you want to work on based
upon how the team has done in the days or the
weeks ahead -- before that. And then the time
used column is always blank, that’s the point; is
that correct?

RM: That's -- yes. Because it is


not -- it's not typically like this. This is
like done after practice.

RR: Uh-huh.

RM: So we have -- I don't know if you


even have one. We have it -- it's a
different -- it's a different format on this
sheet. And then once we go through
practice, it'll have these same things, but
this is just a different format, what they do
is to summarize what we did in practice.
So it's -- this is not the typical practice
plan that we have when we're in practice, but
this is the post-practice. You know, we'll
see it post-practice -- this sheet or this
format.

RR: Okay. So this is kind of like a


post-practice report?

RM: Correct. Yes. Exactly.

RR: Okay.

RM: Exactly. Exactly.

RR: So at that point, the times are


added based upon what you do in practice, how
long each thing goes for?

RM: Right.

RR: Okay. Got you. Okay. That


helps. I had no idea, so that’s -- very
helpful. Do you know, as far as keeping up
with CARA and I know that's --

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RM: Yeah. That's something new. And
I think more so Kevin Freeman, our basketball
operations guy, he does that. And he'll meet
with the (inaudible) and tell us. And I think he
meets with compliance and goes over that
stuff, but we -- and we've met with compliance
to go over it so we know about it. But Kevin
Freeman is pretty much in charge of the RARA,
CARA.

RR: Got you. So does he kind of


manage how long things need to last, keep them
in the hours, all that --

RM: Yes. He does. Right.

RR: Those type things?

RM: Correct. And then if things --


if we can't meet, he'll let us know right off
if we want to -- if it's a day off, he makes
sure the coaches know, it's a day off. We're
not -- you can't -- you just can't do it.

RR: Okay. So he's the best person to


talk to about those particular CARA questions
and --

RM: Correct.

RR: Okay. Do you know, did he


actually -- because there's those things
called CARA logs.

RM: Okay.

RR: Right.

RM: Right.

RR: They keep up with how long things


go for the week and to log it and keep it up
and I think UConn uses JumpForward; is that
right?

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RM: Yes, we do.

RR: Do you know who was actually


putting that into the computer?

RM: I have no idea. I have no idea.


With that, I don't know because I don't put
those in. As assistant coach, I don't think
any assistant coach would know that to be
honest with you, who puts those in. They may
say Kevin Freeman, I don't know.
But I know it was not any of the assistant
coaches that logs that stuff.

RR: Got you. I want to ask a follow


up on this. So you said that the coaches
would get kind of this post-practice report in
their box.

RM: Right.

RR: Did you ever -- when you look


over it, did the times normally match up with
kind of what had transpired?

RM: Yeah. I mean, typically, it's


not like -- with this, this is totally
different. When we schedule, we put this in
for like -- I'm assuming. I don't know. We
put this in for much longer than a typical
practice.

RR: Uh-huh.

RM: If first day, you know, even


since 1995, since I've been here. That's just
typically what we've done here. And this
schedule, I would say it typically goes over
maybe five minutes, ten minutes.
This may have -- I don't know exactly what
this plan looked like. It may have been a two
hour practice. I don't know.
And if that's the case, it's eight minutes
over. So I don't know. And then some days we
cut it short, so I have no idea, you know, of
what this practice plan looked like from the

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beginning.

RR: Uh-huh.

RM: So typically when I go back, I


don't look at the times and say, you know, we
went eight minutes over or we went four
minutes -- you know, we got out four minutes
early. I don't really pay attention to that.

RR: Okay. Have you ever gotten one


of these reports and seen the time that you
actually -- that you went for down here and
thought, no, that's -- that's not accurate or
did these normally reflect pretty much what
the times were?

RM: No. I never looked at that and


said it's not accurate because I just -- you
know, I didn't go back with my practice plan
the next day or whenever I got it, you know,
and hold the sheets and compare and compare
because I just -- and I know we allowed --
allotted so many hours during the week, so I
don't know. You know, that's something, you
know, I don't keep up with.

RR: Okay. Yeah. And just asking,


you know, just based upon -- because you were
at practice and experienced it, seeing the --
getting the post-practice reports, did you
ever look and go, no, that's not how long we
were out there or no, that's -- they're pretty
much lining up with what you think y'all were
actually out there for?

RM: No. I don't think I've ever done that


because it hasn't been a time where I said --
if we practiced -- if we had a two hour
practice plan and we would be there another hour,
then maybe I would have said, yeah.
But it hasn't been that drastic, so I
don't -- you know, like I said, it's been
maybe a couple minutes here, a couple minutes
short. So I don't really, you know, look into
that.

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RR: Got you. Okay. I'm going to
pause there. Tom, did you have any?

TH: Huh-uh.

RR: Clint?

CS: I don't have anything.

RR: Okay. All right. Thank you,


Coach, that's very helpful. Wanted to ask
about an individual by the name of Dave
Sevush, former staff member here.

RM: Yeah.

RR: What was Dave's role?

RM: Dave's role was basically to --


you know, he could come and eat. He could
show a video to the coaches. And basically
his job was to basically help the coaches out,
pretty much, video wise. You know, as much as
possible.
And then usually, when you came back off
the road, if Coach added new plays, he would
kind of sit down with the assistant coaches
and then basically get us up to speed as quickly
as possible.

RR: Did Dave put anything called a


play book together; do you know, like a video
play book?

RM: To to my knowledge, I'm -- I want


to say he has done a video play book for --
for us, for the coaches, I think. I mean, I'm
not even sure about that. I know I've got,
personally, things printed off for me. I
don't know about a play book. I can't
remember now.
But I've definitely gotten plays -- a lot
of plays from Fast Draw that we use, which
is -- prints out the plays so -- and we have,
you know, 40 plays up there and if like I

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said, we add something new while I'm on the
road, he'll always print it out and leave it
on my desk for me.

RR: Was there anything that the --


that the players had access to that was, like,
online where he could up load video for them
to review or anything like that?

RM: Yeah, I think the players, they


always asked about Hudl. They always asked
about Hudl. They want to see games from the
other teams. And we -- and not just the other
team, our games. So they go online and watch
Hudl.
And go over the games before we watch film
or -- yeah, before the coaches watch film with
them. So they'll get online and watch the
game, yeah.

RR: Would Dave upload videos for


that; do you know?

RM: I have no idea. I would assume


that he did it. I don't know. I wasn't there
to watch him upload it and I don't know how
that works because I never -- I don't have
Hudl.
So I just know the kids have it. And I
know they are all always asking about watching
our games and watching opponent's games on
there so --

RR: Did -- was there ever an


opportunity or ever a time where a player
asked you, said hey, I want to look at film;
who do I go to? Or did you ever have to
direct them to Dave for anything?

RM: No. If someone wanted to watch


film, I would sit down and watch film with
them. If I didn't do that, I wouldn't be
doing my job, you know, so -- but most of the
time, if a guy came to me -- or pretty much
all the time, if a guy came to me, I'm going
to watch film with him.

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You know, I wouldn't send him -- I don't
even -- to be honest with you, I couldn't even
send them to another coach. If he wanted to
watch film, I would watch film with him, you
know.

RR: Got you. Was there ever anything


said after practices or anything, if you have
questions, you want to watch video, go see
Dave, anything like that?

RM: Not -- not that I can remember.


I don't know -- like, I haven't been in a
Hudl or anything like that where that was
said, so I have no idea.
But I don't know if Dave has shown film to
guys. I don't know that. I haven't seen him
showing film to guys, so I don't know. And
like I said, I'm on the road. You know, when
I'm in the office, if a guy wants to watch
film, I'm going to watch it with them.
So then -- I know when Coach Miller was
here as well, he would -- you know, he would
watch a lot of film with the bigs and Karl and
I would watch film with the guards.

RR: Uh-huh.

RM: And we could kind of split that


up. And usually, if I was on the road --
actually, Karl would kind of wait until I got
back because he wanted to make sure we both
was on the same page, telling the guards the
same thing so --

RR: Got you. Yeah, it's just -- it's


been reported to us, Coach, that like, after
practice sometimes, that a coach would say,
you know, if you have questions or you want to
watch film, you know, go see Dave; he can show
you the film.

RM: Not --

RR: Do you ever hear that ever being said?

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RM: No, not -- not to my knowledge.
And not having a coach say that. I mean, I
don't think -- I don't -- that's a tough one
because I don't think any coach would say go
to -- they would tell Dave to watch film with
a guy when they could watch film with a guy.
That just doesn't make sense, you know, to me.
So I haven't heard that.

RR: Okay. Did you ever -- did it


ever come up that, you know, a student athlete
had a question about how to access Hudl?
Had a question about how do I actually -- I
want to watch film on my own; how do I get
that? Did you ever hear anybody ask those
questions at?

RM: No. I've never heard a kid ask


that question because of the kids that I've
heard, I've asked them have they watched film,
they're like, I'll go back and watch it on
Hudl. So I don't know.
And like I said, I don't know how Hudl
works, but no one has ever -- none of the kids
have ever asked me how to work Hudl, so I
don't know. I don't know if they have asked
another coach that. I can't answer that
question.

RR: Okay. So I want to go back and


just ask about where did Dave -- where was his
office at?

RM: Dave's office is called -- it's


called -- we call it the situation room, so
basically where coaches meet every day. We go
in and watch film and draw up practice and
just go over everything, recruiting. So we
have basically everything in the situation
room.

RR: Okay. And so what -- and I think


I asked this question, but if we could,
just go over it again. What exactly was
Dave's role? Like, what did -- what part did
he play in the department?

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RM: He was basically, I mean, the
video guy from my understanding. He traveled
with us. He would show film to the team,
operate the video to show it to the team as
Coach is up there talking.
And at the time, I think Glenn Miller
was -- he did all the scouts at that time. So
he would be up talking as well. And then that
was basically it, you know, and helping the
coaches out, like I said, as far as the plays
and things like that go.

RR: Okay. So I think you said -- so


he would operate kind of the film and showing
it and that type thing?

RM: Yes. It was -- yeah. It was


between Dave and -- Kaplan. Dave Kaplan. So
those two guys operated the film.

RR: Okay. When was that that he had


to do that?

RM: I would assume -- because it -- I


can't -- to be honest, I can't answer that
question because now I can't remember if it
was -- inaudible -- or Dave. Like, both of
them. They were both video guys, so I can't
remember. I don't know exactly, but if I told
you, Dave did it this, this, I would be lying
to you. Because I can't remember. You know,
I know Dave Kaplan and Dave Sevush both were
video guys for us, so those guys kind of work
hand and hand with each other.

RR: Did Dave ever get the film


together for y'all for when y'all reviewed it
as a coaching staff or that type thing or --

RM: Well, he would give us -- he had


to give us the actual game because I don't
know how to package the game. Like, to
download and all that. But then once it's on
my computer, then I do all the work for it.

RR: Okay. Did you ever see a player

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sit down with Dave just to ask or to go over
any type of film to be able to know how to
review it or --

RM: No, I haven't seen Dave meet with


a player as far as sitting down with them and
watching video, no, I haven't.

RR: Did you ever see a player go


to -- just ask him a quick question about
anything?

RM: Basketball related, I can't


remember. I mean, Dave talks to the guys. He
has a great relationship with the guys, so I
don't know. I mean, I don't know what
questions. But like, when I was around him, I
can't remember if they asked him anything
basketball related, you know, because he's
always joking with the guys. He has a good
relationship, so I have no idea.

RR: Did you ever see him give any


pointers or, hey, you should stand there, hey,
you should do this, anything like that?

RM: No. I haven't seen him -- like,


instruction? No. Because he sat off at a
table, so -- in the practice facility, we have
a table that the operations guy, the video
guy, the strength and conditioning guy, they
all sit at a table and it's off to the side.
So I haven't seen him giving any
instructions in practice, no.

RR: Okay. And did you ever hear


about a time or see a time where an opportunity
athlete went to Dave and he helped go over
different plays or anything with them?

RM: No, I have not.

RR: Okay. Tom?

TH: Did -- going back to an earlier


question that Russell was asking you, I just

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want to make sure, did Coach Ollie ever tell
the team if -- that if they were struggling with
the plays or not understanding the plays, to
get with Dave to better learn the plays?

RM: Not that I recall.

TH: And did Kevin Ollie ever instruct


guys who were struggling with plays just
generally, to get with Dave to go over film?

RM: A lot of times, I'm traveling.


That's why I say, not that I recall.

TH: Uh-huh.

RM: So when I'm not here, I have no


idea. I haven't seen Dave sitting down with
guys. I guess where my office is in the
practice facility, I'm down the hall from the
situation room, so I haven't seen it.

TH: Okay. And then, I guess, this has


probably already been answered too, but just
to be care -- thorough, did you or any other
coaches at UConn ever tell the players that if
were struggling with the plays to get with
Dave?

RM: I can only answer on my behalf.

TH: Uh-huh.

RM: I have never told a player to go


see Dave that was struggling with plays.

TH: And you never heard any other


UConn coaches instruct players?

RM: No, I have not.

TH: Okay. And I think you said


this -- I think you said you never saw Dave
providing instruction on the practice court to
any players on the plays.

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RM: No. I haven't seen Dave, not to
my recollection. I haven't seen Dave. They
usually sit off on the side during practice.
And it's just -- like I said, usually
operations guy, strength and conditioning, and
the video guy. They all sit. You would have
to see it in the practice facility. But it's
off -- it's a table off to the side.

TH: Did -- and then I was listening


to all your answers, but I just want to make
sure.
Did Dave have any special responsibility
as -- like, as the keeper of the plays. Was
he any sort of person that was responsible for
keeping all the plays?

RM: Well, I think he was more like


Coach Ollie's -- because he was here. He
never traveled. He was always -- if Coach
changes -- if Coach makes adjustments, so he
changes the plays all the time.
So I would say, yeah, he kept the plays
because he was the guy that was here. So the
same way we use JumpForward, there's a program
called Fast Draw. So it's where he keeps all
the plays.
So when we get back, as assistants, they'll
print off the plays for the assistant coaches
and say this is what we did while you were
gone. So that we had -- we're back on track
when we get back.

TH: Was Dave -- is Fast Draw like a


software?

RM: It's a software.

TH: Okay. So he was sort of the guy


that ran that Fast Draw software?

RM: I think he -- we all have Fast


Draw, so I would say -- I don't know if he
would -- I don't want to say he ran -- you
know, ran that, but he kind of kept up with
the plays, yes.

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TH: Okay.

RM: And actually, he kept up with


Coach Ollie's plays and his own. So
basically, he has -- you know, because some
day he aspires to be a basketball coach, so he
keeps up with his own plays; Coach Ollie keeps
up with his own plays. And there's actually a
section where I had my own drawings. So
everybody keeps up with their own plays.

TH: Got you. All right. Thanks.

RM: Right.

HG: And let me just sort of try to


understand, Ricky, a little bit about Dave.
Was he a voice in coaches meeting?

RM: No.

HG: Was he somebody you guys


considered qualified to give instruction or
teach basketball to the kids?

RM: No, not really because Dave never


played basketball.

HG: Right. Was so he somebody that,


when you'd be on the road, if a kid had
questions, you'd go say -- well, go get some
instruction from Dave?

RM: No. And part of the reason that


we wouldn't do it is because Glenn Miller
wouldn't allow them to do it.

HG: Okay. And then help me


understand, we have seen -- Annie took us to
see the practice facility yesterday, so we've
seen sort of the setup.
Describe for me -- you mentioned sort of
Dave being kind of at a table somewhere else.
So if we're looking at that practice facility,
you've got the main full court.

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RM: Right.

HG: That takes up the majority of the


space and then you've got some side goals
along one wall.

RM: Right.

HG: Where -- where is this table


you're talking about?

RM: That table is off -- if the full


court is this way, you've got basket, basket,
and you've got three baskets on this side.

HG: Right.

RM: Three baskets -- that table sits


over here.

HG: Against one of the sideline


walls?

RM: Yes. And where we typically


stand, I would say 95 percent of practice is
on this baseline.

HG: Okay.

RM: So that table sits off over here.


We usually stand on this baseline pretty much
the majority of practice. So when we go over
scouts, we go over anything like that nature,
we're standing on this baseline.

HG: And so Dave is the video guy,


he's sitting at a table across the court from
you guys?

RM: Yes. And Dave might have been on


the -- at this time -- now, that's where I've
got -- Dave might have been on the other end
at a -- where we keep the scores clock.

HG: Okay.

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RM: So it's another table here for
the scores clock and it's a table here for the
video guy now. But Dave might have been -- I
might have forgot about that. He might have
sat at the other end of the court.

HG: But -- okay. So setting aside


coach's meeting where he didn't have a voice,
was he an active participant in any way at
practices?

RM: No. Dave didn't -- to be honest,


I don't -- I can't recall Dave saying much of
anything. Dave, actually, his personality, he
doesn't really say much anyway. So he's not
going to interact and the coaching staff that
we had, we had guys that have been in the
coaching business for, you know, 20-something
years, 25 years. They wouldn't allow you to
say anything.

HG: I've got you.

RM: And that's even me. Like, I


would -- and you know, Coach always getting
on me, like, why are you so quiet, that and
that. And that's like, I'm not going to be
fighting with guys, you know. And I
understand. I respect them, but I'm not going
to be fighting with them. You know, when they
say something, they expect, this this way -- you
know. So I just leave it alone.

HG: That's helpful. Thank you.

RR: Annie? Okay. All right. Coach,


thanks. I'm going to switch years on you a
little bit, okay?

RM: All right.

RR: I'll give you a warning when I do


that each time.

RM: Okay.

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RR: Wanted to ask about, in the
preseason, pickup games. Do you know, were
there any pickup games that the student
athletes would have in preseason?

RM: Yeah, typically. I mean, they've


always had preseason pickup games. So, yes.
Yeah, I mean, that's been, I think, every
school does that, pickup.

RR: Were -- how did the players know


about a pickup game; do you know how that got
communicated them?

RM: Well, I would assume they -- I


have no idea, but I would assume they --
when -- we'll have workouts, strength and
conditioning wise and I'm assuming we -- they
talk about they wanted to play pickup
voluntarily.
So I know it's been a lot of times that
they've scheduled their own pickup. Not -- a
lot of time, I don't even know about it, you
know, that they played pickup.

RR: Uh-huh.

RM: The only way I would find out is


they come in talking about it in the office or
something like that, but you know, this guy
played well. Most of the time, those guys,
they volunteer and do it. You know, they want
to play because we can't schedule. I'm
assuming we can't schedule that, so those
dudes do that on their own.

RR: So is there a -- how do players


know about, like, a regular practice or that
there's an event or something that they need
to be at; how does that normally get
communicated?

RM: Typically, I think the head


manager sends out a schedule. And he'll text
it to them and let them know, this is the
schedule for the game or practice that day

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or -- so it always comes out the day before
practice and he kind of gives them the
itinerary of what they're -- what's going to
be scheduled for their next day.

RR: Okay. So it's kind of like a


group text-type thing?

RM: Yeah. Kind of like a group text,


yeah.

RR: Do you know in the preseason, did


the managers ever text the players, let them
know, hey, going to have pickup at such and
such time, that type thing?

RM: I have no idea because I'm not on


that group text.

RR: Okay. Was there ever a time that


Coach Ollie mentioned anything called
captain's practice?

RM: Captain's practice? I have no


idea to be honest with you. I don't know what
that mean, I guess. Is it -- is that pickup
or -- I have no idea. I'm just going to --
captain's practice, I guess. I have no idea.

RR: Okay. So were you ever in a


staff meeting where Coach Ollie asked how's
things going in captain's practice, anything
like that?

RM: No.

RR: Okay. Were you ever in a meeting


where Coach Ollie asked how's things -- how
are the kids looking in pickup?

RM: I haven't been in a meeting that


he asked that, no.

RR: Did -- do you know if there were


ever any pickup games where a trainer was
there to make sure that nobody got hurt; do

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you know if that was ever coordinated?

RM: I have no idea because I have


never really been there when they played
pickup, so I have no idea.

RR: Are you on campus in preseason or


are you kind of --

RM: Yeah, we're on campus. A lot of


times, I would assume, those guys come back at
night and play. And then also on the
weekends, I think they had cemetery hill.
And so once they run cemetery hill, a lot
of times, Coach says you guys can leave, as
coaches, so we -- and a lot of times I wasn't
even here for -- to be honest with you, I
wasn't here for cemetery hill, so I didn't see
them.

RR: Got you. Do you know, did the


managers ever go to pickup?

RM: That, I don't know.

RR: Okay. Did -- did the managers


talk to the coaches a lot? Did they -- do
y'all interact a lot with them?

RM: Just about the little stuff,


like, the travel and -- but not, like,
basketball wise -- talking about basketball
stuff, no.

RR: Okay. So has there ever been a


point that a manager told you, hey, Coach, so
and so is doing really good in pickup or --

RM: No.

RR: -- so and so is -- you know,


we had this session the other day and he
didn't do so well?

RM: No. No.

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RR: Okay. Has that ever been brought
up in a staff meeting?

RM: No.

RR: Okay. Want to show you an


exhibit, okay?

RM: Uh-huh.

RR: Show you something. This is --


oh, it was Bates stamped as UConn 1433. So
have you ever seen anything like this before,
Coach?

RM: Stats from -- yes, I have seen.


I think this is preseason stats. Yes, I have
seen this before.

RR: Okay. What -- what is that from;


do you know?

RM: I guess they're preseason.


Practice, I guess. Preseason. I guess
preseason practice.

RR: Okay. Did you ever receive


copies of those or anything or anything like
this?

RM: Yeah. Usually when we start


practice, they do stats. Yeah, but this says
8/26, so I haven't seen this before.
No, this is -- usually when we start
preseason practice -- when I mean preseason
practice, I'm thinking, like, before we start
games. So I was assuming this was like the
stats that we keep up as soon as we start the
first day of practice, and that's typically,
you know, the beginning of October.
So this date, that's -- I have no idea.

RR: Were any of the stat sheets like


this, are they ever put in y'all's boxes for
y'all to get, or how do you normally get
those?

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RM: Sometimes they put them in our
box, yes. For the practices, yes, they'll put
them -- they definitely put them in our boxes
when we start practice. And that will go up
until, maybe, the first game and then they
typically stop doing it because we'll have
real stats, you know, from the games.

RR: Okay. Coach, I'm going to


represent to you because I've reviewed it, so
I feel like I can do that. We have records
from 2014 and 2015, just like these, and when
you compare these stats to the CARA logs, so
that keep up with the countable activities --

RM: Right.

RR: -- they do not match up with,


like, skill instruction that was done in the
preseason.

RM: So this -- yeah. So this doesn't


match up with skill instruction?

RR: Right. So I guess my question is


what else would be done that would need stats
or could actually stats be taken from during
the preseason?

RM: I would assume that's -- my first


time looking at this, that's what I'm
assuming, so I have no idea. So I have no
idea because I'm not there. I'm only there
during the practice time, so I have no idea.
So I couldn't tell you. I couldn't answer
that question.

RR: Okay. So do you have any


recollection of their being any pickup games
where managers would keep stats?

RM: I'm not there during pickup


games, so I have no idea.

RR: Okay. Did you ever hear that

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there were any pickup games?

RM: You know, the guys will come in


talking about pickup games, but you know,
other than that, I couldn't tell you.

RR: Okay. So did you ever hear from


a manager that they had sent a text about a
time where the team could meet for a pickup
game in the preseason time?

RM: Group -- I'm not on the -- I'm


not on the manager's group text. I mean, the
team and the coaches’ text where the manager
sends us sometimes, that's totally different.
We don't have the same text as the team. So
if he sends out saying that, you know, they're
going to have pickup games at such and such
time, I don't know that, because I'm not on
that text.

RR: Okay. Okay. Coach, it was


reported to us that -- that during staff
meetings sometimes that there were pickup
games that were done in the preseason and that
the managers would attend those.

RM: Okay.

RR: That they would send a group


text. And say, hey, you know -- and you can
do that permissibly, right?

RM: Right.

RR: You can tell them, hey, the gym


is going to be open this certain time.

RM: Right.

RR: But the managers would keep these


stats for those pickup games, and that it was
discussed in staff meeting. Is that -- how --
have you ever heard that?

RM: I haven't personally, so I don't


know, maybe, another staff -- former staff

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member might have heard it. I have no idea.
I wasn't in there when they talked about
pickup games and who -- you know, who did this
or that. Like I said, the only time I would
hear anything would be if a player came up and
said, you know, just in conversation hearing
them talk.
I don't know. I've never met about a
pickup game.

RR: Okay. Tom?

TH: So Coach, once you are


permissibly allowed to start having practice
in October --

RM: Right.

TH: -- and before the first regular


season game, the managers would keep
similar-type stats for games that are --
scrimmages that occur?

RM: Scrimmages, yeah. And even


practice.

TH: Yeah. Okay.

RM: Right.

TH: And so in that kind of exhibit


433 you said looks similar to the regular
season's preseason scrimmages; is that
correct?

RM: Correct.

TH: And what's the benefit of this;


why would managers keep these statistics?
What's the benefit of keeping that in the
regular season?

RM: I would assume in the -- in that


time, you know, leading up to the first game
is just to see, you know, who is being
productive, I would assume. You know,

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personally, I'm not a big stat guy and never
was so -- but I would assume, that's what the
coach is trying to.
Do. And that's a great question because I
think, you know, during that course of time,
guys are making adjustments of, you know,
beginning school and that sort of thing so
that's not going to typically tell you
anything as far as basketball goes, in my
opinion.
But you know, that's different. Coach
likes to keep track of the stats and keep up
with, you know, how they're doing I guess.

TH: Okay. No, I don't have any


other.

RR: Okay. Clint? Henry?

HG: So let me just make sure to


crystallize in my mind, Coach, do you recall
ever receiving stats of a pickup game that
occurred in the preseason?

RM: I can't remember receiving stats


of a pickup game.

HG: Okay. And have you ever heard or


had a discussion amongst the coaches about who
either was participating in a pickup game in
the preseason or how somebody performed in a
pickup game in the preseason?

RM: Not in a meeting that I was in,


no.

HG: Okay. Have you ever heard any


suggestion or discussion of potential
discipline or needing to get on somebody
either based on not showing up for potential
pickup games in the preseason or not
performing well in the pickup game in the
preseason?

RM: No, I haven't heard anything like


that.

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HG: I think that's all I've got.

RR: Annie?

CS: One similar question, have you


ever heard a member of the men's basketball
staff tell a student athlete they need to go
play pickup?

RM: Never.

CS: Okay.

RR: Okay. Coach, this is -- I'm


going to shift gears on you again, okay?

RM: Appreciate you.

RR: I want to ask about -- because


you said, I think, that -- I mean, all of
y'all are kind on the road, right?

RM: Yes.

RR: Recruiting?

RM: That's correct.

RR: You have to keep up with it -- I


mean, it's always changing.

RM: Yes.

RR: New class. How do y'all keep up


with recruiting days and that type thing?

RM: So with our recruiting days, we


try to keep it in JumpForward. In the past,
when we got ba would give it to -- now
we give it to But in the past, since
Dave was here, ctually was one of his
jobs too just to make sure that we didn't go
over our recruiting days.
So we would give him, you know, the trip
that we went on and then of course, we would
bring all of our receipts to the manager, or

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whoev was the manager last year and
then the manager now, so we bring
our r ing to them and they put it in.

RR: Okay. So what exactly would you


have to report to Dave about your trip?

RM: Just we would write down on a


sheet of paper, this is where we went. This
is recruit we saw. He's a 2018, that's it.
2019, whatever it may be. That, and then once
we take the receipts to the manager, then they
would put it in the system and then it goes
through a process after that.

RR: Okay. For, like, reimbursement.

RM: For reimbursement, correct.

RR: So would you have to -- on this


sheet of paper where you'd report about your
trip would you say what school you went to and
what kid?

RM: Yes.

RR: Okay.

RM: And I'm typically -- I recruit


all around the country, so -- and I'm just
going to put it out there already, like, I
have -- I did -- I don't really do a lot of
recruiting in New England, so most of my trips
are flights, so and that's in JumpForward.

RR: So just asking, so on that


comment, so why -- you said you want to go
ahead and put it out there.

RM: Yes.

RR: What -- what exactly do you mean,


though?

RM: I mean, we had -- because we got


down -- and the reason I'm saying is this is

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because we got down to a certain number of
days, I think it was last year. So all the
coaches, Dwayne Killings, myself, and then
Glenn Miller, we put it on the board that we
had 14 days left.
So that started winding down and got to ten
and then all of a sudden, Glenn gets fired and
then he has however many days left that he
didn't report. So that's what I'm saying. I
put that because I don't know -- I can't
answer for Glenn. And I can't answer those
questions before -- if you want to ask some
questions, I can't answer for him, but I -- I
know we got down to about ten days left and we
kept that on the board so that everybody could
see this is the amount of days that we have
left. And then all of a sudden when Glenn
gets fired, he has X amount of days that he
didn't report.
So I don't know -- and even to Coach
Ollie's defense, I don't know how you can, you
know, manage that because this guy's purposely
not putting them in there, you know, so that's
something that, you know, is -- that's a tough
one.

RR: So do you feel that that messed


up your recruiting --

RM: I don't think it messed it up.

RR: -- calculation or --

RM: I think still think we were under


the days because we had April. So this was
ten days out of -- up until March and we held
off on, I think, 24 days for April because we
know we're going to have those recruiting
weekends, but we had ten days that we up until
March, I think I want to say. Or March
something.
So we knew we couldn't go over those ten
so -- and usually as a coaching staff -- you
know, normal coaching staff, you would say
you've got three, you have three, and this guy
has four.

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So we left it there, but then all of a
sudden, it was like during that March period,
I think Glenn got fired, and then he
reported -- so we didn't really go out and we
reported -- he has so many days that he needed
to report and I was confused because I'm
thinking once we -- it's typically, since I've
been there, you go recruit, you put your days
in to get your money back.
And that's how it's been, you know. So it
was just odd that he was holding onto his
days, I don't know.

HG: Let me just ask you while he's


thinking. When you say you would complete
papers, is there, like, a specific form you
guys use or you could literally turn in like a
napkin, hey, I went to --

RM: No. It's a form we have.

HG: Okay. Do you know what that form


is called?

RM: No. It's up in the practice


facility though. It's -- basically has the
name, school -- it's typical -- it's like a
piece of paper like this.

HG: And will you travel with them and


just fill them out as you go or you get --

RM: No. No.

HG: -- back and do it?

RM: Just get back and do it.

HG: I'm sorry for interrupting.

RR: No. No. It's fine. So what is


the -- the limitation on overall days for
coaches and then, like, the individual time
for student athletes or for PSA, the
opportunity?

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RM: So repeat that question again.

RR: Sure. So what's the NCAA rule as


far as how many days does the entire staff
have?

RM: So we have 130 days.

RR: And then it's how many students


for a student athlete?

RM: Seven --

RR: Or PSA sorry.

RM: I think it's seven evals and


contacts. So -- and then if they sign the
NLI, then you can see them as much as
possible, you know.

RR: Right.

RM: But --

RR: Plus, there's like a little April


exception that just got passed?

RM: Right.

RR: All these little exceptions to


every -- every rule.

RM: Right.

RR: Coach, did you -- what areas,


exactly, do you recruit? I think you
mentioned a little bit.

RM: I don't have an area. I recruit


all over the country.

RR: Okay.

RM: So I don't have a specific area.


I've got a kid coming next year from Oakland.
I've got -- I had a kid from -- a couple kids

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I recruited from Georgia. h id transferred
last year . who is
here from So I'm eve e

RR: Got you. So it's not --

RM: Going to Ohio Thursday. So I'm


all over the country. But I typically -- the
reason I said that is I typically don't
recruit New England.

RR: Uh-huh.

RM: I have. I'm not saying I


haven't. But I just -- these other guys, they
typically recruited New England. And the guys
that I worked with over the last couple of
years, they -- I mean, that was it for them.
You know, they didn't go outside of New
England.
You know, so Karl probably did a little
bit, Glenn a little bit, but most of those
guys, they were all New England so --

RR: Got you. So it's not -- for you,


at least, it's not based on a geographic area?

RM: No.

RR: It's based upon the PSA more?


Like, where they're at?

RM: Yes, that's correct. That's


correct.

RR: All right.

RM: And then figuring out if I can


get involved and knowing when to bail out of
the race and you know, it's -- that's what
it's been.

RR: Got you. Has there ever been a


PSA from that you've
ever recruited?

RM: I haven't personally recruited,

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no.

RR: Okay. Have you ever gone to --


to watch practice or anything at ?

RM: No, I have not.

RR: Okay.

RM: Wasn't allowed.

RR: What was that?

RM: Like I said, the older guys that


were here, they were New England. They were
going to take care of all that, so --

RR: the staff now, who would


recruit from ?

est, I don't know. I


know at -- so this is a strange
situatio was
basically our . Glenn was in
charge of recruiting him. I don't have any
idea how many times Coach Killings talked to
him.
I spoke to , maybe, once on the
phone, maybe, if that. It's in JumpForward.
Basically, it was this is his recruit, you
know, and I'll let you do your job.

RR: Got you. here any other


recruits from -- from that y'all had
or --

RM:I would say the only other


t went there might have been
had mental issues. I recru
was
,
something like that, him and his brother.
So when I heard the situation, I really
wanted to help the kid out and got him, you
know, the opportunity to go to -- he got
himself an opportunity to go. And then once

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he got there, he -- it just didn't work
because he's so mentally gone. A funny
ut it is once he went to
I wasn't allo go t nyway,
er saw him at
That's the -- that' trange part about
the situation is I never had an opportunity to
go over there to see him play. And he didn't
though, to -- you know, he
, if that.

RR: Did he ever enroll here at UConn?

RM: No. No. He never even -- he was


a -- so we got him early. He just committed
to us early.

RR: Uh-huh.

RM: And he actually -- once he


decommitted from us, he committed to Saint
Johns. And then --
I think, you
know. He just needed some help. And I was
just trying to help the kid out. And you
know, after talking to him, his mentor, and
the guy -- , you
know, just tried everything they could for the
kid but -- you know, when that happens at that
age, it's just, you know, what do you do?
That's a tough one.

RR: When you say -- and just to


confirm, I think you've already mentioned, but
just want to -- when you say I wasn't allowed
to go there, is that because other coaches had
more connection there?

RM: I'm saying -- correct.

RR: Okay.

RM: That's what I'm saying, it's not


like --

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RR: There no rule that you can't --

RM: There's no rule I couldn't go


there.

RR: Okay.

RM: When I say that, you're exactly


right. It is -- like, they had a friendship
and a connection there with the coach, so it
just -- I mean, just basically, just talking
to them, it made no sense. And I knew that
was their strength is in New England, so I --
I -- you know, my strength is all over the
country, you know, so -- and that's the reason
why.

RR: Have you been to Putnam Science


this past fall?

RM: To Putnam Science? No, I have


not.

RR: Okay. If someone reported to us


that they had seen you on campus there this
fall, what would you say to that?

RM: I would say that I want to see


that.

RR: Do you have -- do y'all have any


recruits, currently, from Putnam? Or kids
that you're recruiting from there? That's a
better way to phrase it, sorry.

RM: From Putnam? Not that I know of that


we're recruiting. If it is, I would say it
has to be any -- some young guys. I have no
idea, to be honest with you. But I don't
think they have anybody in the 2018 to
'19 class, I don't think.
And like I say, I don't do a whole lot of
recruiting there.

RR: Uh-huh. I know we mentioned --

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and you said you don't do a lot of local --

RM: Right.

RR: -- travel or your all across the


nation. Has there ever been a situation on
the staff that you know of where there was
local travel and that just was not put into
JumpForward, that wasn't reported?

RM: Not that I know of. Like I say,


I can't speak for other coaches.

RR: Uh-huh.

RM: Because that's why I mentioned


that before about the situation with the days,
so I have no idea. But no, not -- I don't
think so. I know everything that I do pretty
much has to go into JumpForward because I'm
traveling through planes. And if I drive,
it's maybe Jersey or -- and I'm also renting a
car so --

RR: When you say everything that you


do has to go through JumpForward, is there
things that don't go through JumpForward or --

RM: No. We have to. Because I need


to get reimbursed, so --

RR: So if a coach doesn't need


reimbursement, do they -- do they turn that in
or –

RM: Yeah, they still turn it in.


You're going to get reimbursed for gas or
meals and stuff like that. So you still turn
it in, but pretty much, every -- you know,
every travel is going to be -- unless
you're -- I guess, unless you're recruiting
here locally, I guess. I have no idea. I
don't really do -- I don't really, you know,
recruit locally, so everything I do is, you
know, traveling pretty much by plane.
I would say most of my recruiting is
95 percent by plane.

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RR: Okay. So has there ever been
anything that you know of locally, a quick
trip that didn't even take a day, that didn't
have to go into the system, didn't have to be
reported?

RM: No. If I took a trip, like I


said, to New Jersey or something like that,
I'm putting in to get reimbursed. You know,
I'm going to put it in to get reimbursed. I'm
not paying out of my pocket for anything.

RR: Has it ever been said in the --


amongst the staff, if you're going, like, an
hour away, you don't have to report that?

RM: Not to my knowledge. Not while I


was in a meeting, no.

RR: Okay. So far all local travel,


was the expectation that you report that?

RM: Correct.

RR: And have that logged?

RM: Correct.

RR: Okay. Tom?

TH: Nope.

RR: Clint?

CS: I've got one follow up. I think


we've established you've never been to Putnam
Science or you weren't recruiting at Putnam
Science.

RM: Right.

CS: Did you ever attend a ball game


between Cushing Academy and Putnam Science at
Albertus Magnus College in New Haven?

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RM: I have been to Albertus Magnus
tournament. Yes, I've been to the tournament,
yes. Uh-huh.

CS: Did you go in March of last year


to that tournament?

RM: I -- to my knowledge, I don't


know if it was in -- they have -- I want to
say they have two tournaments at Albertus.
One in -- I want to say November or December.
I can't remember. But I don't know if it was
in March. I can't remember.

HG: Do you remember who you went to


watch play that the tournament?

RM: No. I'm -- I'm pretty sure -- I


don't know if it was one player. It was at a
tournament?

HG: Yeah. It was the national prep


championship.

RM: So yeah, I don't know if I was


just there for the Cushing game or if -- I
don't know, to be honest with you.

HG: Let me name a couple other


schools. Have you ever recruited anybody at
?

RM: Lucas, who we have coming now.

HG: Is he in this year's class?

RM: He's in 2018.

HG: Okay. So he'll be graduating and


enrolling this fall?

RM: Yeah.

HG: Who is his primary recruiter?

RM: Raphael Chillious.

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HG: Did you ever go do an evaluation?

RM: I think I went to one to see


, yes.

HG: Where was that located?

RM: I think at . So that


might -- yeah, I might have went to ,
yeah.

HG: Okay. Another school, Notre Dame


Prep?

RM: No. I never recruited anybody.

HG: What about Cushing Academy?

RM: Cushing, no, I can't remember


anybody off of Cushing. At that game you're
saying, right?

HG: Right.

RM: Yeah, no, I can't remember


anybody at that game from Cushing.

HG: Okay. Thanks.

RR: Okay. Annie?

AF: No.

RR: No? Okay. Switching gears on


you again, Coach.

RM: Uh-huh.

RR: Carlos Daniel. Who is Carlos?

RM: Carlos was our old strength and


conditioning -- our former strength and
conditioning guy.

RR: Okay. How long was he here?

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RM: I want to say Carlos was here,
maybe, four months, five months, somewhere in
that.

RR: Got you. Not long?

RM: Not long.

RR: Okay. Who was the strength coach


before Carlos?

RM: Travis Illian.

RR: What -- was there a difference in


their styles of how they did things; do you
recall?

RM: Yes. I would say Carlos was more


of an authoritative type of guy where Travis
was more laid back.

RR: Was there anything different that


they did as far as the exercises that they
ran, the warm-ups that they ran, anything like
that?

RM: Well, I can't say about in the


weight room. But like, on the court, it was
pretty much the same. I don't think, even
with Ed, I mean, it's pretty much the same
thing, something similar. It's not anything
drastic that Carlos did or Travis did or Ed's
doing now, you know. It's pretty much the
same thing to get the guys warmed up.

RR: Okay. Was there ever any warmup


or any -- or different exercises or drills or
anything that Carlos did that involved, like,
a basketball or anything like that?

RM: To my knowledge, I would say --


I'm trying to think because -- I don't know.
He may have -- because I know when they left
weights, he brings the guys out to the court
to get them warmed up. He may have.
Like, not during the course of practice,

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but like, when he came out from -- I know he's
said -- you know, he's said things like when
he came from weight lifting, he might have
done something with a medicine ball.
I have no idea. You know, I know he's --
he's been on the court with the guys, yes.

RR: What were -- what was he doing on


the court with him; do you know?

RM: I can't recall, no. He just said


that he -- you know, he -- trying to get these
guys strong and more powerful, so I'm assuming
he used the baskets and they -- I've seen from
my office that he's tied a thing up to their
waist and they do different slides and so I
guess that wasn't with a basketball, I don't
think. I can't remember, but no, I don't
think that was with a basketball.

RR: Were those basketball drills or


were they strength and agility-type things?

RM: It was like agility-type thing.


Those were agility type-things.

RR: Okay. Did you ever see Carlos


doing any -- what you would -- what you would
think of as, like, practice-type activities?

RM: Not to my -- I can't recall if he


was doing anything practice-wise, no.

RR: Okay. Tom?

TH: Huh-uh.

RR: Okay. Clint?

CS: No.

RR: Annie? Okay. All right. Coach,


wanted to ask about a gentleman by the name of
Derrick Hamilton.

RM: Okay.

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RR: Do you know Derrick?

RM: Yes, I met Derrick in the


practice facility one day.

RR: Okay.

RM: And he was just up in the office.


He was walking around and I met him, yep, in
the practice facility.

RR: What does he do, I guess, or do


you know what his profession is?

RM: I have no idea. To be honest


with you, I don't. I have no idea. I just
know I met him in the practice facility so --

RR: When was that; do you recall?

RM: That may have been two years ago


I think. Because I don't remember seeing him
last year. No. Might have been two years
ago.

RR: Okay. What -- do you remember


what month that was or what time of year?

RM: May, maybe. June, I guess, I


would assume.

RR: Okay.

RM: I don't think it was in the


course of the season. I think it was in the
spring after the season was over with.

RR: Was he just at the office or --

RM: Yeah, I met him upstairs.

RR: Okay.

RM: Yes.

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RR: And do you know, does he know
Coach Ollie or --

RM: I have no idea about their


relationship.

RR: Okay. Did he say what he was


doing at the practice facility or --

RM: No. Coach said this was, you


know, someone he knew, so he introduced
himself and so that was, you know, pretty much
it.

RR: Okay. Did you ever see him again


after that?

RM: Yeah. I think I -- he might have


came back, yes. I think he was back and I
might have saw him in passing. I think I --
you know, might have been leaving and I saw D.
But I can't remember that. I don't know. It
was two years ago.

RR: Okay. Was that around the same


time that you originally met him or –

RM: Yeah. It was probably like a


month or so after, probably.

RR: Okay. Did you ever see him talk


to student athletes or interact with them in
any way?

RM: I know we had guys around. I


don't know -- I can't say I saw him talking to
student athletes. But yeah, the guys were
here. I think they were still in school or
summer school or something. So I can't say
I -- I can't say I didn't see him talking to
them. I don't know.

RR: Got you. Did ever see him on the


court with any student athletes?

RM: Not to my recollection, no. I


haven't seen him -- seen him on the court with
anybody, no.

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RR: Okay. Did you ever hear that he
was on the court with anybody or did anybody
talk to you about that?

RM: No, none of the guys said


anything to me about that, no.

RR: Okay. And so going back, when


you originally met him at the office, was it
Coach Ollie that introduced you or --

RM: Well, he was in the hallway.

RR: Okay.

RM: And so I was -- I was going to my


office, I think. I can't -- I mean, I can't
remember. I met him in the hallway of the
practice facility, so I don't -- I can't
remember if Coach Ollie was there with him,
but I know he was in the hallway. And I don't
know if he was -- he might have been looking
at pictures or something. I have no idea. I
can't remember that right now.

RR: Did it strike you as odd that


somebody was kind of there that you didn't
know or --

RM: No, not really. Coach brings


friends up all the time, so not really.

RR: Okay.

RM: And then we have people, you


know, just going through the practice
facility, as far as people showing -- getting
shown around, so I meet so many different
people in the practice facility. Other
assistant coaches have friends and family that
come up, so no, that wasn't unusual.

RR: Okay. But did you know, I guess,


from some of the things you said, that he and
Coach Ollie knew each other?

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RM: I would assume.

RR: Okay. Did you ever see them


talking to each other?

RM: Yes, I've seen them talking to


each other, yes. Uh-huh.

RR: Okay. Where was that at?

RM: In that same day.

RR: Oh, okay.

RM: Yeah. When I left -- when I


ended up leaving, I saw him in the hallway.
But when I ended up leaving, he was talking to
Coach at that (inaudible).

RR: Where were they at?

RM: I think they were in his office


might have been. The door was -- I think Kev
might have been in his office when I walked by
and so they might have been in his office when
I left.

RR: Okay.

RM: With the door open.

RR: Okay. Did you ever have a


conversation with Coach Ollie about who
Derrick was or what he did?

RM: No. It wasn't any of my


business, so I never asked.

RR: That's okay. All right. Tom?

TH: Was Derrick ever on staff here at


UConn?

RM: No.

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TH: Okay. Do you know if he had any
role on -- related to the basketball program
here at UConn?

RM: No. I -- I mean, those -- I


think I saw Derrick twice, so I would say
definitely no role in -- you know, and he
wasn't on staff, to my knowledge. So -- but
no.

TH: And earlier, you said that Coach


will bring his friends up. When you say
Coach, you're referring to Kevin Ollie?

RM: Yes. Kevin has, you know,


different people come up and family comes up
and you know, his family -- his father was up
here and his father had friends with him, so
like, when I meet -- and I actually talked to
them in the hallway, so it's like when I see
someone in the hallway, I don't think it's
unusual, you know, because I don't know who
they are. And I don't ask a whole lot of
questions.
I'm not going to say who are you here to
see? You know, when I meet somebody, it's hi,
hello, how are you doing? And I'm going on
about my way.

TH: Do you have any idea what Derrick


does professionally?

RM: No, I do not.

TH: Okay. And did he have any


relationship with any UConn student athletes?

RM: I don't think so. May -- I don't


know. That's -- I can't -- I'm not going to
say -- I can't answer that question.

TH: And then you said you thought


this was about two years ago, so are -- in May
and June. So are we talking 2016?

RM: I don't know.

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TH: Okay.

RM: Because I can't answer that question, so


I don't want to say it was this time.

TH: Sure.

RM: I don't have -- I don't have a


clue right now, to be honest with you.

TH: If you think back, are there any


time landmarks in your head, like, as to --
that you could place it as to when you saw
Derrick Hamilton? Were there any events or
any particular things happening when -- at the
time that you saw him that would help you
recollect the timeframe?

RM: No. I'm just assuming it wasn't


during the season because they -- that's what
I'm trying to think of in my mind when did I
see him. I would say it was after the season.
And I'm thinking two years ago. And to be
honest with you, I have -- I don't know.

TH: Okay.

RM: Because I haven't seen him in --


you know, in a while and I only saw him twice.
But yeah, I do know -- when I met him, he told
me he was from Georgia. And that's the reason
it registered to me because I'm from Georgia
so --

TH: Oh, okay. And did he indicate --


what all did you talk about with him?

RM: That was it. Just talking, you


know, how I was doing. I told him I was fine.
And he just asked me, you know, how is college
coaching going? And I think he remembered me
when I played basketball here.

TH: Did he indicate why he was at


UConn?

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RM: No, he didn't say. And we
conversated for about three, four minutes at
the most.

TH: All right. Thanks.

RR: Clint? Okay. Coach, you've


mentioned this recruit,
Do you remember when he was being
ed here or when -- what time period
that was?

I think he was, let's see -- so I


think , this is his first year with
Kentuc he left half a year last year.
So I would say we were recruiting him the last
two years maybe, three years. And I wasn't
recruiting him, so I don't know.

RR: And who was his primary


recruit --

RM: Glenn Miller was recruiting him.

RR: Okay. Do you remember, did


, did he ever take an official visit
o you know?

RM: Yes, I think he did take an


official visit, yes.

RR: Okay. Do you remember, was there


an event or anything that y'all had around
that time when he took his visit or?

RM: I don't think so.

RR: Okay. And I'll be more specific


for you, sorry.

RM: Okay.

RR: Was there a team meal at Coach


Ollie's house?

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RM: I can't remember.

RR: Okay. So could there have been.

RM: It could have been, yes. We've


had --

RR: Does that happen on official


visits sometimes?

RM: No -- occasionally, yeah.

RR: Uh-huh.

RM: Occasionally, we'll have -- just


depends on how much time we have.

RR: Uh-huh.

RM: So occasionally, yes. That might


have happened. I just don't remember it.

RR: Because that's fine, right? I


mean --

RM: Yeah, I think -- official visit,


I think you can go -- you know, he can have a
meal at his home.

RR: Right.

RM: But I don't -- , maybe,


yeah, I don't -- I can't rec nd the
reason I can't is we have so many visits and
it's hard to keep track.

RR: Uh-huh. Kind of all run together


after a point?

RM: Yes.

RR: So do you remember who was with


on his official visit or anything like
that?

RM: No, I can't, to est. No, I


don't remember who was with .

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RR: Okay. That's fine. Do you
know -- I know you said you don't remember
that specific meal at Coach Ollie's house, but
normally, would the team be there; would the
coaching staff be there; do you recall?

RM: Well, we'll typically -- I think


on every visit, we'll have a host.

RR: Uh-huh.

RM: But not the team, no. We usually


have a host come. And I can't even tell you
who was the host. I can't honest
with you, I can't remember visit at
all.

RR: Okay.

RM: Like --

RR: He wasn't your recruit, right?

RM: No. He wasn't my recruit.

RR: Okay. Tom?

TH: Was there -- was there ever any


discussion among the coaches to introduce
to any former UConn players?

RM: No, not amongst coaching staff,


no.

TH: Do you know whether ever


talked with any former UConn players?

RM: Not -- I don't personally because


he wasn't my recruit.

TH: Okay.

RM: I'm pretty sure if I was


recruiting him, then I probably would know the
answer to that question, but yeah -- but I --

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I mean, I can't -- to be honest, I can't
remember -- because a lot of times, we go to
Coach Ollie's house, we're scattered all over
the place. He has a pool table, so in there
playing pool. Downstairs, they're watching
television, so I have no idea, you know.

TH: Uh-huh.

RM: And that was, what, two years


ago, maybe? Yeah, something like that.

TH: Okay. Thanks.

RM: Yeah.

RR: Okay. Coach, wanted to ask about


a former staff member, Danny Griffin.

RM: Uh-huh.

RR: What was Danny's role here?

RM: Basically to mentor the kids off


the court.

RR: Would he set up programs for


them; would he meet with them?

RM: Yeah. I think he set up some


programs. He had meetings with sexual
assault. He would set up those type of
meetings. So yeah, that was his job
description, I'm pretty sure.

RR: How long was he on staff for; do


you remember?

RM: I want to say a year or two,


maybe.

RR: Okay. Was he normally here or


did he travel to other places or --

RM: Yeah, he traveled with the team.

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RR: Okay. And was he -- is he from
LA, in that area; do you know?

RM: I think he's from LA, yes.

RR: Would he travel back there to,


like, go home and that type thing or --

RM: Over Christmas, yes.

RR: Okay. Do you know, would -- did


Danny have any responsibilities, as far as
like recruits coming on campus, giving them
tours, helping them with logistics, anything
like that?

RM: I mean, I'm pretty sure when


recruits got on campus, he would introduce
himself. But the coaching staff, we show the
guys around, the campus tour, and facility
tour and stuff like that.
And when we do that, we kind of -- so
that's -- so like, if I had a recruit and
I'm -- it would be -- I try to get all three
assistants to walk around with them so that
he's not talking to me. This is the way I do
it. And then other guys, they actually --
they're okay with that too, former assistants.
So we would go around, show them the
practice facility, do a campus tour, and then
usually go back and meet the assistants with
the recruit and his parents or guardian or
whoever it is in Coach Ollie's office and just
talk about UConn.

RR: Okay. So did you ever see Danny


give a tour or help --

RM: I don't know. If he -- I don't


think he's ever given a tour. He may have
walked with the coaches.

RR: Uh-huh.

RM: But I don't -- I can't -- yeah, I


can't remember Danny ever giving a tour, no.

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RR: Okay. Did -- did he come to
practices; do you know?

RM: Yeah, he sat at that table.

RR: Okay.

RM: Yeah, the table that I'm talking


about that's on the side.

RR: Okay. Did he ever stand


alongside the court or anything like that?

RM: Not that I can remember, no.

RR: Okay. I want to ask, do you


know, was there ever a time where -- did Danny
sit on staff meetings?

RM: Yeah, he was in the meetings


because he had to basically, you know, when he
was setting up different programs, he would
have to explain that to Coach and you know,
what -- you know, what he was doing with the
guys.
So like, if he had some meetings set up,
you know, we would talk different things about
practice and so on and then Danny, Coach would
ask him, you know, at some point during the
meeting, you know, what are you doing with the
guys? What's the plans and things like that.
And so he would have -- and he had to
answer it, so that's why he was in the
meeting.

RR: Got you. Give updates and that


type thing?

RM: Yes.

RR: At any point during those


meetings, did y'all talk about recruits?

RM: I'm pretty sure he was in there


when we talked about recruits, yes.

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RR: Did Danny ever give any feedback
or give any opinion on a particular recruit;
do you recall?

RM: Not that I recall, no. I'm


pretty sure after we talked recruiting, he
would probably go look it up on YouTube or
something, but yeah, I don't -- I can't
remember him giving any feedback about
recruits.

RR: Okay. Did he ever seem to have


any knowledge of any guys that were out on the
west coast or anything like that?

RM: He probably did. I have no idea.

RR: Did he ever share that during a


staff meeting or --

RM: Not with me, he didn't, so --

RR: Do you know, did Danny ever talk


with any recruits; did he ever call them; do
you know?

RM: I have no idea about that. I


mean, I would have to get his phone to --

RR: Yeah.

RM: But no, I have no idea. I don't


have any clue what he does when he leaves the
practice facility nor do I have a clue when
he's in the practice facility because I'm
not -- not really with him that much.
You know, the only time I would be with him
pretty much is during our meeting if he's in
the meeting. You know, sometimes he has other
things that he has to take care of as well,
so --

RR: Did he ever mention to staff that


he talked with a particular PSA or particular
recruit or their family or anything like that?

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RM: Never that I know of, no.

RR: Okay. So did he ever give any


knowledge of kind of like the background of a
recruit or a PSA.

RM: Not to my knowledge, no.

RR: All right. Do you know, did


Danny ever mention that he was at a practice
of a PSA or that he went to a high school here
or there?

RM: No. Not to me, no.

RR: Okay. Tom?

TH: And did Danny ever recruit for


UConn?

RM: No, not to my knowledge. I'm not


going to say -- not to my knowledge, I don't
think so. I can't answer that question, but
not to my knowledge that I think he recruited
for UConn.

TH: Thanks.

RM: Uh-huh.

RR: Clint? Okay. Coach, do you know


a gentleman by the name of Boo Willingham?

RM: Yes, I do, uh-huh.

RR: Okay. Who is Boo?

RM: Boo played basketball here from


'91 to '95, I think those are the years.

RR: Okay. Does -- so was he a


teammate of Coach Ollie?

RM: Yes.

RR: Are they -- are they pretty good

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friends or did they know each other pretty
well?

RM: Yes, I think they're pretty


good -- actually, when I came on my recruiting
visit, they were roommate, so yeah.

RR: Okay.

RM: So they are definitely good


friends, I would assume. But yeah, I would
think, yeah, they're friends.

RR: Okay. What does Boo do; do you


know?

RM: That's a great question. I have


no idea nor do I want to know.

RR: Okay. Where -- does he live


around here or do you know where he lives?

RM: I have no idea.

RR: Okay. Does he come to any games?

RM: Occasionally, yes, I see Boo at


the games. Yeah, every once in a while he'll
show up to a game.

RR: Where does he normally sit; do


you --

RM: I don't pay attention to that.

RR: You're a little bit busy, I know,


during those.

RM: Worry about winning games before


I'll be sitting over there, you know what I
mean?

RR: Yeah. Have you ever seen -- has


Boo ever come up to the offices or has he ever
been up there?

RM: Yes, Boo has been to the office,

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uh-huh. Yeah, Boo has been -- you know, he's
come up -- he's not -- like, when he shows up
every blue moon, yeah, he'll come up and say
hello. You know, like I said, when I came on
my visit, Boo was playing here.

RR: Uh-huh.

RM: So you know, I'm pretty sure out


of respect, that's why he comes up and says
hello, you know.

RR: Do you know, did Boo ever


accompany a PSA on a visit?

RM: I have -- not to my recollection.

RR: Do you know if Boo ever had a


relationship with any PSA?

RM: Yes, he might have -- I kno


when -- when I first started recruiting
Boo -- I think they were already friends
Like, I want to say when the kid was in the
seventh, eighth grade maybe. And I don't know
how they met. I don't -- and I didn't get
into all that with Boo, you know, so I know
the kid mentioned that he knew Boo.
And so that was about it. And then I
didn't really, you know -- really go into you
know Boo -- when I recruit a kid, I'm
recruiting a kid trying to sell UConn; I'm not
trying to sell Boo.

RR: huh. Did -- did Boo ever


come -- did come on any visits to UConn?

RM: I think came up once on an


unofficial visit. An -- I don't know if.
Yeah, I want to say -- I don't know if his
guardian came with him. I can't remember.
But I know a pretty wealthy guy. He's
a guy for the , so he's --
he's well o t's put it that way.
He’s -- -- I guess that was his
guardian at ime. I don't know how that

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works now. But he was guardian at the time
so --

RR: Okay. And is -- his name is


?

RM: , yes.

RR: ? And he's based out of


?

RM: Yes.

RR: Is that where from?

RM: from , yes.

RR: Okay. Do you know, does Boo live


there or --

RM: I have no idea.

RR: Okay. Did -- did ever tell


you how he knew Boo or --

RM: But I would assume that's the


case.

RR: Uh-huh.

RM: Yeah, I would assume. I don't


know where Boo lives at, but I would assume
that.

RR: Okay. Did ever tell you


when is the first time h t Boo or how he
got to know him?

RM: No. Like -- he never told me


that. He just said he knew Boo. Like I said,
I don't ly get into that. I'm not going
to ask how did you meet Boo? You know,
where d u meet him at? I just don't -- I
don't work that way.
You know, so and that's probably to my
fault, but I don't -- I usually don't

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interrogate them kids like that. I just try
to figure out what's going on in their life.
What kind of music they like, you know, it's
just a different kid today, so I try to
recruit that way.

RR: Okay. Did Boo ever come with


on a visit?

RM: I t know if Boo was here at


that same time was here. I can't recall
that. He may h been, but I can't recall
that, no.

RR: Did that ever send any red flags


up with the staff that, you know, kind of --
just you know, want to ask some questions, you
know, because he knows Boo, who is a former
player; want to ask compliance a couple
questions about that. Did that ever come up?

RM: No, I don't think so, because I


think they had a prior relationship before we
even recruited him, so that never came up at
all. And maybe it should h but no, it
didn't at the time because knew him
before we even recruited Za
They were already friends, so no.

RR: Okay. Do you know when came


up for visit -- do you know how he go
campus?

RM: I have no idea.

RR: And did you say, did his guardian


come with him?

RM: I'm assuming he did. I can't


remember. That was, what, two years ago, I
think.

RR: Okay.

RM: So I don't know. I can't


remember that either.

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RR: It's been a bit.

RM: It's been a bit. And a lot has


transpired since two years ago, trust me.

RR: Did -- did Boo ever call or --


you said he would drop in from time to time
just when he was around.

RM: Uh-huh.

RR ut did he ever call and talk to


you about or his situation?

RM: No. And when Boo comes in, he


doesn't -- I mean, it wasn't about talking
about . It was just about, you know, how
are things going. Asked about my family.
It's more of a friendship type of thing. It's
nothing about recruiting.
And then most of the guys that do stop by
that -- I mean, I never really have a
conversation with any alum or -- about a
recruit, you know.

RR: And that was my next question.


So that was what I was going to ask was did
Boo ever comment on a PSA or ask about a
recruit that y'all were recruiting?

RM: No. No.

RR: When you would see him at


games -- and I'll be it, I know very briefly,
probably -- was he ever sitting around a
recruit or was a recruit around him; do you
remember?

RM: I -- at a game, I don't know


where Boo sits.

RR: Okay.

RM: I have no idea. I basically -- I


mean, I barely know where my own family sits,

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wife and kids. So I definitely don't know
where Boo sits, you know. And during the
course of a game, I'm focused, you know so --

RR: So you ever -- did you ever see


him talk to a recruit at a game?

RM: No, I have not.

RR: Okay.

RM: And I don't come out -- I


typically don't come out after a game any way.
You know, I'm in the locker room. I stay in
there and my wife beats me over the head every
game because I don't come out and my kids are
out there, so I just -- I mean, I just haven't
done that. You know, that's why me. I stay
in the locker room. And then -- you know, I
want to talk to Coach, especially these last
two years, you know, with the record we've
had.
Just talking to him and thinking about what
we did wrong or right in the game so --

RR: Have you ever heard of a


gentleman by the name of Wayne Tolson? Has
that name ever come up?

RM: Yes. I've played golf with


Wayne, yes.

RR: Who is Wayne?

RM: Wayne, I think -- I don't know if


Wayne went to -- he's a friend of Coach
Ollie's. But I don't know if he went to
UConn. Wayne might have went to school here.
I have no idea.

RR: Do you know what he does


professionally?

RM: No.

RR: Okay. Does he work with

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insurance or anything like that; do you know?

RM: I have no idea.

RR: Do you know if he and Boo know


each other?

RM: I'm assuming they do know each


other.

RR: Why -- how is that?

RM: I think Wayne went to UConn.

RR: Okay.

RM: Yep. So he's friends with Coach


Ollie; Wayne is. So I'm pretty sure they -- I
would assume they know each other. And Wayne
went to UConn -- I'm assuming Wayne went
around that same time Coach and Boo went to
school here.

RR: Do you know -- has there ever


been a time where there had to be a meeting
set up between Wayne and a PSA?

RM: No.

RR: Has that ever been brought up --

RM: No.

RR: -- that we might need to look


into insurance or something like that?

RM: No, not to my knowledge. No. I


mean, I would assume Wayne hasn't met with a
PSA. I'm assuming that, but no.

RR: Okay. Tom?

TH: Yeah. I'm going to go back to


you said you assume that Wayne Tolson knows
Boo. Can you elaborate as to how you arrived
at that assumption?

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RM: I would say he knows Boo because
I think Wayne went to school at UConn.

TH: Uh-huh.

RM: And I know Wayne is friends is


Coach Ollie. And both Boo and Coach were
roommates in college, so I'm assuming that's
how they know each other. I don't know.

TH: And then with Boo, so he was --


he played at UConn?

RM: Yes, Boo did.

TH: He's an alum. Is Boo a support


of the UConn program -- basketball program?

RM: Support how? What do you mean?

TH: Is he a friend of the basketball


program?

RM: Yeah. I would hope so.

TH: Okay. Is he -- does he -- as a


friend of the basketball program, do you know,
does he do anything to support the basketball
program?

RM: No, I don't think so. I don't


think he's, like, a donor or any of that
stuff. I would assume -- I don't know. I
can't answer that question, so no. The only
thing -- when you say supporter, I'm assuming
you mean root for UConn, cheer for UConn.
That's what I mean support, but other than
that, I can't -- I can't answer your question.

TH: Does Boo have a positive view of


the UConn basketball program?

RM: Yeah, I would assume so. You


know, he understands with -- you know, with
our record, if that's what you're talking
about, yeah, he still -- I would assume he's

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positive. And I -- and this is off the
subject.

TH: Uh-huh.

RM: But part of the reason we -- the


record we have is because we have some players
that we lost out big time recruits to. And I
think it's all coming out in the media now.

TH: Uh-huh.

RM: You know, I've sat here in the


office with Coach and with the kid's parents
and he committed to us twice and we lose out
on him and it's not just because we lose out
on him. I think it's because of what's going
on.
And that's been with several players, you
know, so the reason that we've been -- you
know, we have the talent we have. And you
know, we're going to get one or two guys that
are really high level guys, but the conference
we're in, it's tough.
So I think, you know, we've lost out on
some key recruits. So -- and that's on the
coaching staff, but at the same time, we're not
going to do anything to jeopardize UConn's
brand and their image. So that's basically
what I'm saying.

TH: No. I understand. And with Boo,


as a friend of the program, a friend of Kevin
Ollie's, and generally, who has a positive
view of the UConn program, do you know, does
he help get the word out about the UConn
program? Does he promote or let others know
about the UConn basketball program?

RM: I can't say he does that. I


mean, I know my mother does in church.

TH: She does?

RM: Yeah, I would assume so. I have


no idea. But no -- no, I can't tell you what

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Boo -- like, my relationship with Boo is
basically when I see him, I say hello. Other
than that, I really don't talk to Boo.
But I'm -- I'm pretty sure he -- you know,
he's pro UConn.

TH: Uh-huh.

RM: And you know, because he played


here and I'm pretty sure this is something in
his heart and you know, he spent four years
here so.

TH: the time that you were


recruiting rown, you said that you knew
that Boo an had a prior relationship; is
that correct?

RM: Yes.

TH: Elaborate on what you knew about


that prior relationship. When did it form;
how did it form? And what was the nature of
their relationship?

RM: I can't elaborate because I don't


know. All I know is they knew each other. I
didn't go into detail how they knew each
other.

TH: Uh-huh.

RM: And I kind stayed out of that


because I'm assuming, to your question, that
Boo lived in Miami at some point. I don't
know. And I don't even -- I mean, like, when
I talk to Boo, I don't even ask him those
questions. You know, I see, I say hi, how you
doing? He asks about my family. And that's
about it.
So I don't know and Boo's relationship
at all.

TH: Did you -- and this -- I think


Russell has kind of asked you this question,
but as a coach, though, did you realize it was

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your responsibility to understand that and to
at least alert compliance as to the fact that
one of our former alums has a relationship
with a guy that I'm recruiting?

RM: No. Bec at the time, I


didn' ink Boo and were like -- he was
wit every day, know en I talked
to I usually talked to or I talked
to . And so those e the two
guys I was dealing with, so I didn't really
think to say, oh, I've got to go to compliance
about Boo and alert.
I think Boo's relationship with
k by the time I started recruit
was a junior -- going into his jun
-- yeah, something like that going into
his junior here.
So I really -- and I think Boo might have
met him early on, the way it sounded to me, so
that's why I didn't go to compliance.
I didn't think they were, like, you know,
at that time, Boo was with the kid every day.
No, I did not. So that's why I didn't go to
compliance.

TH: Okay. Okay. Thanks.

RM: Uh-huh.

RR: Clint? Annie? Okay. All right.


Coach, I want to talk about another recruit,
Taurean Thompson. Who was his primary
recruiting coach?

RM: Glenn Miller.

RR: Glenn Miller? When was he a


recruit; do you recall?

RM: years ago, maybe. I think --


because I think he played at Syracuse, I'm
not -- to be honest, I can't answer that
question because I think -- I know Glenn was
his -- he recruited him, but I don't know how
long ago it was. I think he went to Syracuse,

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something like that.

RR: Okay. Did you ever go see Taurean?

RM: No.

RR: Did you have any contact with


him?

RM: No. maybe, one or two


lls with but none with

RR: Okay. Do you know, has anybody


recently contacted the staff about -- about
Taurean wanting to transfer; has that ever
come up recently?

RM: No, not to my knowledge. Not to


my knowledge, no.

RR: Do you know who -- who normally,


whenever a kid might want to transfer in,
who's kind of the point of contact on that?

RM: We don't have anybody.

RR: Okay.

RM: I would say that question may


vary only because, you know, they could reach
out to any coach. They could be by email.
They can reach out by someone's phone, you
know, so I can't answer -- we don't have a
certain person that -- if transfers out, that
they're calling this person, no.

RR: Do you know if a family member of


Taurean has called recently?

RM: No, I do -- I have -- not -- to


me, you're saying?

RR: Yes.

RM: No. No.

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RR: Sorry. Has that come up in a
staff meeting at all recently that, you know,
rumors Taurean may be unhappy and looking to
transfer?

RM: Not to my knowledge, that I was


in a meeting, no.

RR: Tom?

TH: Nope.

RR: Okay. Clint? No? Okay. All


right. Coach, wanted to ask about an AAU
coach by the name of Munch Williams. Is
that -- is that his nickname, Munch, or do you
know him at all?

RM: Terrance William.

RR: Okay.

RM: Only reason I know him is because


he's on the EYBL circuit, so his name is in
the book.

RR: Okay. Is -- did any of your


current student athletes, did they play for
him at AAU ball?

RM: I would ass I


I want to say
at's it. And my unch,
I don't really recruit in New England so --

RR: Got you.

RM: So I don't have a great -- I


mean, I talk to Munch, but I don't have, like,
a great relationship with Munch because I
don't really recruit in the northeast so --

RR: When have you talked with him?

RM: I can't remember, to be honest.

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RR: Has he ever up hed
practice, or checked on or

RM: Munch is -- I can't tell you the


last time Munch was here, but yes he's been up
before.

RR: Does he know Coach Ollie; do you


know?

RM: I'm -- I'm pretty sure he knows


Coach, yeah.

RR they ev onversations
about how or how were doing?

RM: I have no idea.

RR: Okay. Has Coach Ollie ever


talked about -- I'm just going to call him
Munch, but Terrance Williams, has he ever
talked about him at a staff meeting, that
they've talked or that they know each other or
something kind of like that?

RM: Not to my knowledge. I mean, I


can't remember. Like, maybe, he's talked
about AAU game in the meeting, but I don't
think about a relationship with Munch, no.

RR: Tom? Clint? Annie? Okay.


Coach, just going to ask -- this is very
broad. This is a very broad topic. About
AAU -- since we're talking about Munch, but AAU
coaches kind of in general.

RM: Uh-huh.

RR: Do y'all have to ever have, you


know, communications with them, talk with them
about some of their current students that
they're -- that they have on their teams?
Because presumably some of them are playing
AAU ball whenever they're PSAs?

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RM: So you're saying talking to Munch
or AAU in general?

RR: AAU coaches in general.

RM: Yeah, we have to deal with AAU


coaches, of course. I mean, if you don't deal
with them, you're going -- ain't no chance of
getting that player, even if he doesn't help
them make a decision, you still have to talk
with them, you know.

RR: When -- when do y'all normally


see them or --

RM: Well, we see them in the


summer -- well, usually in April. So we'll
see the AAU coaches in April and -- and that's
over the events, live period.

RR: What -- is there, generally,


normal events that y'all go to -- AAU events
and that type thing or --

RM: EYBL, which is Nike, Adidas, and


then Under Armour. Which are the three, I
mean, pretty big time AAU events.

RR: Where are those at?

RM: Oh, they vary.

RR: Okay.

RM: So I think -- I don't know this


for sure, but I don't know. Last year, I
think Nike was in New York and Indianapolis in
the spring.
And so it may be the same. They could
change where it's different this year, I don't
know. And they kind of typically don't put
that information until the end of March, early
April just so other, like, they're competitors
can't move close to where they're going to be
at.
Sometimes it works out that way, but a lot

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of times, I think that's what they're trying
to. I would just --

RR: Makes it last minute, doesn't it?

RM: Yeah, it does make it last my


opinion.

RR: Got you. And getting to know --


because I mean, presumably, you know, you have
PSAs that are playing on those teams that
you're trying to watch, have you ever gone out
to dinner with an AAU Coach, you know, talked
things over over drinks, anything like that?

RM: No. Not me, personally, no.

RR: Is there anybody else on staff


than you have ever seen do that?

RM: No. I would -- not on -- I


wouldn't say I've seen it, no. So I can't
answer that question. I don't know if they
have or not, but I haven't.

RR: Have you ever heard -- has


anybody said, yeah, me and so and so went out
to dinner or --

RM: Not really, no.

RR: Has it ever been said in staff


meeting, you know, hey, we should just go to
dinner with these coaches -- these AAU coaches
just to get to know them a little bit better,
anything like that?

RM: No.

RR: Tom?

TH: No. But could I go back to Boo


real quick?

RM: Yes, uh-huh, for sure.

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TH: I forgot one other follow up
question.

RM: Go head.

TH: Do you know whether Boo ever had


contact with any other recruits that UConn was
recruiting?

RM: Me? No, I do not know. Like I


said, I don't really talk to Boo. The only
time I talk to Boo is when I see him pretty much.

TH: Got you.

RM: So like, I'll -- you know, when I


see him, like I said, we talk about our
family, but other than that, I really don't
have any conversation or any connection with
Boo.

TH: But you've never seen him talking


with other recruits that UConn was recruiting?

RM: Never, no.

TH: Okay. All right. Thanks.


Sorry.

RM: Uh-huh. No worries.

R: Annie? Coach, who was


recruiting coach?

RM: I was.

RR: You were?

RM: Uh-huh.

RR: Okay. What is


background; where is he from

M 's from . Went


to High Sc is high school
coa a as an assistant
coach right now.

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I got on early as a sophomore. My guy,
Sean William who is a scouting service guy
down in Atlanta, I've known Sean since I
worked at Dartmouth.
The reason we got to be hone with
you, is because I'm f Georgia. really
saw how Kemba Walker, Shabazz Napie Ryan
Boatright blossomed here as point guard.
If we wouldn't have got early, if he
hadn't committed to us earl and we kind of
put the pressure on him just telling him we
were going to be recruiting guys, we probab
never would have had an opportunity to get
because -- I don't know about Co h
K, but a ton of schools were still recruiting
him after he decided to verbally commit to us.

RR: So he was a highly ranked


recruit?

RM: Yes.

RR: Okay. So was that kind of why he


chose UConn is he saw kind of how you -- he
could be developed here; is that it?

RM: Correct.

RR: Okay. I know this is kind of a


personal question, but just trying to develop
my -- my facts.

RM: Uh-huh.

RR: What was kind of


family situation?

RM: I think has -- I want to say


four or five siblin So his high school
coach basically r a lot on his high
school coach at He won, I want
to say, seven st a hips. He's had
numerous big time college prospects at his
school.
And his coach, he k d of saw the same
thing that, you know, would blossom the way

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that we play here, as far as development. And
so that's the reason we got him. I think
if -- if we hadn't been so successful at
producing point guards in the NBA, you know,
starting way back when Coach Calhoun was here,
it probably would have been no shot.
And then me being from Georgia. So I have
a lot of relationships in Georgia. I was
runner up for Mr. Basketball in '95 to Shareef
Abdur-Rahim and so -- and then I came to
UConn. So Al kind of -- that was my pitch to
Al is I left home and it's opened up a ton of
doors for me.
And I was able to play in Europe for 11
years and won a national championship here, so
you know, as a kid, you're listening to all
that and you says Shabazz Napier and what
Kemba did was phenomenal. I think any kid in
their right mind would want to come to UConn.

RR: So in starting on that question,


you know, what was his -- I think you said he
has a lot of siblings or several –

RM: Five. Yeah, four or five. Yeah.

RR: Okay. Do you know, what is --


kind of who was the primary person that you
talked to as far as like his guardian --

RM: His high school coach.

RR: You talked to --

RM: He's at right now,


yes, as an assistant.

RR: Would you talk to his parents at


all or --

RM: I talked to his mother


occasionally. She's not big into basketball,
so I talked to -- Al relied on his high school
coach, Sherman White is his name.

RR: Do you know, what does his mom do


in Atlanta?

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RM: I have no idea.

RR: Okay.

RM: I don't know what she does know.


Back then, I think she might have been
unemployed. So I have no idea what she does
now.

RR: Okay. Do you know, was there


n the team there a feeling that
got something to come to UConn?

RM: No.

RR: Has anybody ever mentioned that


to you?

RM: No.

RR: Has any student athletes ever


kind of just in rumor, not even in fact, but
in rumor --

RM: No.

RR: -- suggested that got


paid to come here?

RM: No. I wouldn't put in that


situation, nor would I put myself n that
situation so --

RR: Have you ever heard that from


anybody?

RM: Never.

RR: Tom?

TH: Huh-uh.

RR: Clint?

CS: Nope.

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RR: Okay. Coach, I'm going to -- we
are getting to the end, so thank you for
bearing with me. I know that we're getting --

RM: I know you keep me abreast every


time. I appreciate it.

RR: Wanted to ask -- and this is


again -- this is more general. About kind of
visits that PSAs take.

RM: Okay.

RR: Any time on unofficial or


official, is there a time for a PSA, if they
want to play pickup or workout or something,
is there any -- an opportunity for that; do
you know?

RM: So I guess they -- you're asking


me is it -- for a PSA, if they came on a
visit --

RR: Uh-huh.

RM: -- could they play pickup with


the guys?

RR: Right.

RM: Yes. They would schedule that.


The guys would talk to them. And I would
assume it's usually on -- if a PSA got here
Friday, Saturday because usually those guys go
hang out. And I know I've heard over
conversations, guys coming back to the gym to
shoot extra. So those guys would organize it.

RR: Do you know, was there ever an


opportunity for them or did they get workout
gear if they didn't have it or something to
work out?

RM: I think, the way the rules, I


think you get gear and you have to return it.

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RR: Did you -- who would they get
that from?

RM: The managers.

RR: And who would they have to return


it to?

RM: Back to the manager.

RR: Do you know who -- which manager


was in charge of that or --

RM: We have 20.

RR: Okay.

RM: So I have no idea.

RR: Was there a log that they kept;


do you know?

RM: I don't know.

RR: I checked this out with so and so


and they checked it back in?

RM: No, I have no idea how that


works. I know Chris has gotten a lot better
with that, who's our equipment guy. So he's
gotten a lot better of keeping track of it.
But I have no idea, you know, because -- you
know, sometimes we're not here.

RR: Uh-huh.

RM: You know, so I don't know who


would keep track of that log. I can't answer
that question.

RR: Do you know what gear they would


be given to workout in?

RM: I would assume just practice


gear. Like, a t-shirt, whatever we have

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generic. T-shirt and some shorts or whatever.

RR: Got you. And then normally,


would the manager work with the equipment guy;
is that kind of how that worked?

RM: Yeah, I am thinking the manager


would talk to the equipment guy and say this
guy doesn't have -- if they didn't have it. I
mean, I'm assuming sometimes kids come with
their own stuff, but if they didn't have it,
yes, that probably would be the way it worked.

RR: Okay. During -- during visits --


and this can be, you know, unofficial or
official -- was there a time where, you know,
they would watch practice and kind of be there
when the team was practicing in the practice
facility?

RM: Yes. On an official visit, yes.


So they would probably watch, I would assume,
like, 30 minutes, maybe. Anywhere from 20 to
30 minutes because they're taking -- on an
official visit, they may take a tour at that
time or go meet -- a lot of times they meet
with the AD at that time or meet with the
president of the school during practice.
So they would -- they would do that.

RR: Would kids on unofficials or


recruits on unofficials watch practice; do you
know?

RM: On unofficials, I don't think we


have a whole lot of unofficials during
practice time because the kids, they're in
season. So I would assume, no, they don't
watch then.

RR: Okay. Does the team eat a meal


after practice or is there something --

RM: Yeah, they get catered a meal,


yes.

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RR: Catered meal. Is there ever a
time on an official visit where after a kid
watches practice, a recruit watches practice,
he goes up with the team to eat that meal?

RM: A lot of -- on official visit?

RR: Uh-huh.

RM: Yeah, probably so. But a lot of


times, we go eat. They may go up and eat and
they may not. Because usually, we'll have
breakfast and then sometimes breakfast is so
close to that practice time, they may not eat
and then they may just eat dinner when we go
out to eat dinner.
So we usually try to schedule an early
dinner on official visits. And when kids are
up on an official visit while we're
practicing.

RR: Is there ever a time on


unofficial where they -- they go up there with
the team?

RM: Unofficial, I -- that's hard


to -- I can't remember on unofficial. Like I
said, we -- at times, we -- on an unofficial,
we're not really practicing, so if it is a
meal, I would assume that kids may not. I
mean, they aren't going to go up there and eat
so -- because a lot of times we have
unofficials, I don't think we're practicing at
that time.

RR: Okay. Do you recall ever seeing


a kid -- a recruit on an unofficial visit
eating with the team in the facility?

RM: No. I have not. I can't recall


that, no.

RR: Okay. Tom?

TH: Is it possible that recruits on


unofficial visits may have gone up with the
players to get --

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RM: If they do, I can't control that.
You know, as a coach, I would try, but I
don't -- I can't say I've ever saw that a kid
went up and eating something or taken
something from the meal. And if they have,
hopefully, if -- I mean, hopefully, they can
pay that back. If they have, I have no idea.
And as a coach, we are talking -- you know,
you're talking to parents. And if a kid goes
in the locker room, we're not standing right
there with the kid. And then the way our
facility is set up, if they go in the locker
room, you can go out the side door. So I
can't say nobody has done it. I would assume
they haven't.
But to my knowledge, I haven't seen anybody
sitting up there eating with the guys, no.

TH: Okay.

RR: Clint?

CS: Nope.

RR: Annie? Okay. Coach, almost


done. Just want to ask a few questions about
compliance, if that's okay.

RM: Okay.

RR: So who is, I guess, kind of the


main contact with compliance in the basketball
program?

RM: I would say -- you know, we talk


to Annie. We set up meetings with Annie. We
have a meeting once every month with
compliance to go over the rules and also to go
over academic. Our academic advisor is in
there, athletic director is in there at times,
assistant athletic director, Vic, is in
there -- inaudible.

RR: Is that a basketball only meeting


or --
RM: Basketball only meeting.

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RR: Okay.

RM: Yes. Definitely basketball only.


And so like said, we go in there and then
Kristen is in there; Annie is in there. And
academic advisor, Ellen, who is over the
whole academic department, she's in there.
And then all the basketball coaches.

RR: Excuse me, Coach, I apologize.


Do y'all go over, you know, rules about rules
changes, updates --

RM: Yes.

RR: -- things like that?

RM: Yes.

RR: Do y'all discuss rules about


recruiting?

RM: Yes, we talk about recruiting as


well.

RR: Talk about CARA, countable


activities?

RM: Yes, Exactly. Yes.

RR: Do you feel that you have a


pretty good relationship, you can call over to
compliance if you need help with anything or
have a question?

RM: Yes. Uh-huh. We do it like,


occasionally, if we have questions, we'll call
over. Yeah. And then you know, we started to
do a lot as of the last year or two.
We've been just coming over to compliance.
And then, you know, just to say hello.
So and then if we have --

RR: You're not too far down?

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RM: No. We're right next door.
So -- but yeah, you know, if we have a
question, we'd call over. And I'm pretty sure
they -- you know, they hear us quite a bit.
And you know, we have to talk to compliance
about, of course, recruiting and academic
things and then also reimbursement and that
type of thing so --

RR: What is Coach Ollie's compliance


philosophy? What does he tell y'all about --

RM: Follow the rules.

RR: Okay. Does -- does he ever say,


you know, ask if y'all have any questions or
direct y'all to compliance?

RM: Yeah. He always -- and even in


the meetings, he always says, you know, if you
have any questions before we leave, make sure
you ask them. If something comes up after the
meeting, make sure you don't hesitate to call
over to ask.

RR: Do y'all have any of your own


staff meetings where y'all cover a compliance
topic or anything like that?

RM: Yeah. We -- sometimes we'll meet


after we meet with Annie and Kristen. We'll
go back and we'll talk about the rules and
whatever it may be or a new legislation that
they -- especially, like, the CARA, RARA. So
we'll try and go -- you know, might plan
practices around what we can and can't do and
that type of thing.

RR: Okay. Very good. Tom? Clint?


Annie? Okay. Coach, thank you for your time
today.

RM: Yes, thank you guys.

RR: I know we've gone a couple


minutes over. I apologize about that.
I do have just a little bit more to go

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over. This is just about confidentiality.

RM: Okay.

RR: And then you'll be done.

RM: Okay. Yep.

RR: Before I do that, do you have any


questions for me?

TE: No, I don't have any questions.

RR: Okay. Do you have anything you


want to add or clarify to what we've talked
about today?

RM: No.

RR: Okay. All right. So the last


thing I need to tell you is that NCAA
legislation requires that you help protect the
integrity of this investigation. Therefore,
as the investigation continues, you're not
permitted to speak with others about what we
discussed today or any information related to
this case, except that you may speak with
personal legal counsel if you chose to retain
them or others present in the room.

RM: Right.

RR: Failure to protect the integrity


of this investigation could result in an
allegation that you violated the principles of
ethical conduct and/or the cooperative
principle. So do you understand those
statements?

RM: Yes.

RR: Okay. I do have one last


question for you, Coach. Did anybody contact
you about your meeting with us today other
than just to set this up?

RM: No.

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RR: Have you spoken with anybody
about your interview today?

RM: No.

RR: Okay. Just want to remind you


that your recording is confidential.

RM: Yes.

RR: That's an agreement on the record


to not release that to anyone or go over that
with anybody.

RM: Yep. And like I said, I just


have this just in case I need to obtain an
attorney. You know, which I don't think I
have to so --

RR: Got you. So at some point after


the NCAA completes its investigation, someone
else involved as a party in this case or their
attorney, legal counsel, or representative may
request to interview you about matters that
we've -- related to this case.
And we encourage you to agree to speak with
them just as you've agreed to speak with us.

RM: Okay.

RR: This doesn't include any members


of the media.

RM: Okay.

RR: If you do have any questions


about who you or cannot talk to, I know it can
get a little confusing, not saying anybody
will ask --

RM: Right.

RR: -- but in case, please feel free


to reach out to myself or to Annie.

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RM: Okay.

RR: We're happy to help you with


that, okay? Do you have any final questions
for me?

RM: No. I'm all set.

RR: All right. Then I'll note for


the record that this interview concluded at
10:04 a.m. Eastern Time.

RM: All right.

RR: Thank, sir.

RM: Thank you.

-- END OF AUDIO --

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INTERVIEW OF
THE UNIVERSITY OF CONNECTICUT
FEBRUARY 22, 2018

RR: All right. We'll get going. So


I'll note for the record here that it's 1:44 p.m.
Eastern Time on Thursday, February the 22nd, 2018,
and I'm in the office of the NCAA in Indianapolis,
Indiana, but we have others on the phone, so let me
-- for the purpose of voice identification, I would
like to ask each person on the call to state their
and their title for the record, okay? And,
, we'll start with you, okay.

Okay. I'm I'm


student athlete that got recrui w at

associate AD for
compliance at .

, outside special
legal counsel for .

, associate with
.

BK: Brian Kappel, outside counsel for


the University of Connecticut.

RR: Okay. And I'm Russell Register,


one of the assistant directors of enforcement with
the NCAA.
And I would like to note th is is
being recorded. But before that, I asked f it
was okay to record today's interview, and, you
said it was; is that correct?

Yes, it's fine.

RR: Okay. And I would also like to


note on the record that Brian Kappel is recording on
behalf of the institution, but he has a verbal
agreement with us to keep that recording confidential
pursuant to Division I Bylaw 19.5.8 and not to share
that recording with any third parties; is that

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correct, Brian?

BK: It is.

RR: O All right. So prior to


going on the record, you received a form
entitled the NCAA int notice form. Did you
have a chance to read that form?

Yes.

RR: Okay. And do you understand that


the purpose of this interview is to determine whether
you have any knowledge of or involvement in any
violations of NCAA legislation?

Yes.

RR: Okay. And do you understand that


you may be represented by personal legal counsel
during this interview?

Yes.

RR: And do you understand that NCAA


Bylaw 10.1 obligates you to provide truthful and
complete information in this interview?

Yes.

RR: Okay. Do you understand that if


it is ever determined that you've provided false or
misleading information or withheld information in
this interview, that this could cause a student
violation of the NCAA principles of ethical conduct
and could impact your eligibility as a student
athlete?

Yes.

RR: Do you understand the information


provided during this interview may be shared with the
other NCAA departments?

Yes.

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RR: Do you have any questions
regarding any part of that interview notice form?

No.

RR: Okay. And did you sign and date


that form?

I did.

RR: Okay. Awesome. Thanks,


Thanks for bearing with me through that.
So just to throw it out, what's
a good telephone number to call you at i we
need to reach you?

My cell phone number is area code


.

RR: Okay. And what's a good phone


number for your -- for one of your parents?

Just my mom. And my mom's number


is area code .

RR: Awesome. Thanks, And


what's a good e-mail address for you?

r me? . --

RR: Perfect. And, just


starting out, where did you go to h hool?

I went to high school in


, Union High School.

RR: Got you. And did you go there


all four years?

Yes, ma'am -- or yes, sir, I'm


sorry.

RR: That's fine. Okay. So freshman


through senior?

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Yes.

RR: Okay. Perfect. And so tell me


-- I know this might be -- I ask -- you know, I'm
sure you were recruited by a lot of different
institutions, but what was your -- if you could give
me kind of your top five list. What was your top
five list?

What was my top five list?

: Just to clarify, out of high


school; right? Or --

RR: Right, out of high school,


uh-huh.

Oh, no, no, no out of high


school, I just had one offer.

RR: Okay.

RR: Okay. And have you been at


the entire time in college, or --

No, no, no. I went to


my first two years, and then I transferred
because I -- I medically redshirted,
and then I went to a . And from the
is whenever I had like my offers and
all of that, and stuff. This is my second time
around, basically.

RR: Oh, okay.

Yeah.

RR: Got you. So you were at


for your freshman and sophomore years of
s that correct?

Yes.

RR: Okay. And then you transferred

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to ?

Yes.

RR: What was the name of that

what city was that in?

RR: Great. And so out of there, what


schools were recruiting you?

RR: Got you. Yeah, that's a pr


good list. ry good. So obviously you chose
What about made you make that decision?

Ju e I came here I
really liked how like had -- I feel like
-- I liked the way he u the team when I
came to watch a couple of practices in my visit. I
-- just by seeing all of the players, I saw like the
way I could fit in, you know, what I mean. And I
didn't really -- I felt like I didn't see anybody
that like looked like me, you know, what I mean, like
somebody that brings something that I bring to the
table.
So pretty much that was it. I felt
like I could just put myself -- place myself into a,
you know, a good team, a deep unit, and, you know,
just make a team even better, you know. So that was
really it.

RR: Awesome. Awesome. No, that's


great. So I think you mentioned just a minute ago
when you were talking about different schools, so the
University of Connecticut was one of those that
recruited you; is that correct?

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Yes.

RR: All right. Do you remember who


was the primary coach from the University of
Connecticut that was recruiting you, do you remember?

Coach Moore, I'm pretty sure.

RR: Okay.

RR: Is that Ricky Moore?

Yeah -- yeah, yes.

RR: Okay. And, sorry, ju o take a


step back, so is this your first year at

Yes.

RR: Okay. So that would have been


last academic year, so the '16, '17 year, during that
that they were recruiting you; is that correct?

Yes.

RR: Got you. Did -- how did coach


Moore get in contact with you? Did he call you? Did
he text you?

Yes, so I was at my , and I


want to say they e-mailed -- Coach Moore e-mailed my
assistant at my -- at my , and they --
I think they asked for my transcript and -- I think
that was really it, just my transcript and maybe my
information.
And so my coach told me about that,
and I just waited on -- or, you know, waited on the
call, and he ended up eventually calling me. So
e-mail first, and then call, probably. And just from
there, you know, just obviously trying to build a
relationship.
And it was just weird because with
him, he had got like sick during my visit, so he
wasn't even around -- like he wasn't -- I didn't see
him at all.

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RR: Are you saying -- are you saying
Ricky Moore was sick during your visit?

Yeah, Coach Moore. Coach Moore


was sick like right before, and then like -- so it
was like -- it lasted through my whole visit because
I was only there for two days. So he was sick for
like a week or something like that, so.

RR: Okay. Got you. So when did you


take a visit to UConn?

I'm pretty -- so I'm trying to


get my days right because we got -- we got out of
school from I want to say -- I want to say it
was like the 14th, maybe. Like the 14th. And then I
got -- I went to UConn with my mom and my stepdad I
want to say like December . It was like in the
middle. I can tell you the game that I was at. They
were playing at UConn.

RR: Okay.

Whatever day that was. I'm


pretty sure it was the , though.

RR: Got you. And that was in


December 2016?

Yes.

RR: Okay.

Yeah, yeah, '16.

RR: Got you. So how long were you on


campus there?

I got there I want to say -- game


was on a Saturday. I want to say I got there Friday
-- yeah, Friday night. Or -- because we -- when we
flew in, we stayed at a hotel that was like in the
airport or something, I think. Like we didn't -- I
don't think we left. And we were like -- our rooms
were already there. I don't know how that was set
up.

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And then the next morning is whenever
the other coach -- it was another coach that came
from -- where did he say he was coming from? I think
Maine or Temple (sic). Another black guy. I think
he might still be on the staff. I forgot his name.
Bald head guy. I can't remember his name.
But he came and picked us up, and
there was like a really -- there was like a bad
storm, I think, during that time, so it took us
forever to get there. It was like a two-hour trip or
something from -- is it Hartford you fly into? I
think we flew into Hartford and drove.
And then we drove there and stayed
that night, the game, and then we left after the
game. My flight was right after the game.

RR: Okay. Was the game on


or --

Yeah, .

RR: I'm sorry?

A game.

RR: game, okay. So you flew


in on , and then you left after the game on
; is that right?

Yes, uh-huh.

RR: Okay. And was this your official


visit?

Yes.

RR: Okay. Got you. And you said


that there was a coach that, I guess, that drove you
from the hotel to campus. Did you say you couldn't
recall what his name was?

I can't. I can look up the -- I


can look up the roster, and you could tell you his
name. But I don't -- I don't know his name off the
top of my head.

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RR: That's okay. That's okay. On
your official visit, what all did you all do, you
know, once you got to campus up until, you know, the
game?

So whenever they -- whenever he


came, the coach that I was referring to that I can't
remember his name, once he came to pick us up, we
drove to a dinner -- yeah, so it was -- oh, it was --
so I pulled it up. The game was on that -- on a
. against .
So that means I flew in on
night, stayed at that hotel. That morning,
they came and got me. We -- probably did
like lunches, dinners. I remember we were meeting --
I met with Coach Ollie and stuff. And then
was the game, and then I left after that game.

RR: Okay. Got you. Did you ever


play any pickup games or anything like that or
workout while you were there?

No, I don't remember working out.


No, I didn't. I didn't. I definitely didn't play
pickup, and I don't remember working out, so no.

RR: Okay. So that was a no to both


of those; right?

Yeah, no to both.

RR: Okay. And who did you say -- who


accompanied you on your visit?

y mom, and my
stepdad, (phone

RR: Okay. Got you. Did -- I want to


kind of go back just a minute and talk about coach
Moore whenever he would call you. Was there anybody
else from UConn that -- that would reach out to you
or that called you or texted you or anything during
your recruitment?

I mean, Coach Ollie. Oh, and


coach -- Coach Griffin, but I knew Coach Griffin from

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whenever I was at Like I knew him from
like LA.

RR: Okay. So when -- when's the


first time that you met Coach Griffin?

My -- either -- my freshman or my
sophomore year. I can't really -- because it was
just like he was around like the basketball team.
Because I was playing like -- I was playing the Drew
League. I was playing -- I was doing like -- I was
going and like working out a lot with, you know,
trainers out in LA. Like I was just -- I was out in
LA a lot, and he was like a big, big name in LA -- or
everybody knew him type.
So I probably -- after my freshman
year, like that summer. Summer -- summer after my
freshman year because that's whenever I played Drew
League for the first year, so probably then.

RR: Is that freshman year of high


school?

No, no, no, no, n year


of college when I told you I was at

RR: Right. Okay.

Yeah, so after -- after my first


year of college, my freshm he summer going
into my sophomore year of is when I first
met Coach Griffin.

RR: Got you. And so while you were


being recruited by the University of Connecticut, did
he call you during that time, do you remember?

Oh, yes.

RR: How many times would you say he


called you?

Probably like -- I remember he


called me once before my visit because he had just
found out. And then probably like -- like once after
my visit whenever he was trying to -- I think he --

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because it seemed like he was trying to like find out
about -- like feeling it out kind of.
And then, you know, after that, I
think he -- I think his sister ended up passing, and
then I want to say he had left from UConn, like he
wasn't there anymore.

RR: Okay.

And I went back to -- I went back


to LA, and I remember he had called me there because
he was trying to help me with like my decision or
something. And from there, I hadn't talked to him.
Then I made my ision, and I was
already -- I was out here at and he had called
me like -- probably like righ fore or
something, maybe, and just, you know, asked me how
everything was going -- or texted me, or something like
that, and asked me how everything was going.

So I'm just going to run through


this -- and, I'm just trying to make sure I
understand, o

No, no, yeah, you're good.

RR: Okay. Great. So from your


recollection, you think he called you one time before
your visit and then one time after your visit, and
then was that the only times that you recall that he
called you while he was still employed at UConn that
you know of?

Yes. That I can remember.

RR: Okay. What -- what did you all


talk about on that first call when he called you
before your visit?

Well, the first call, it was more


so like, why didn't you tell me you were coming on a
visit? And I was like, I don't know. Like I didn't
know I had to tell you, you know what I mean? Like I
wasn't even thinking like that, you know. Because at
first, like I told you, whenever I had known him from
LA, I didn't know -- I don't know if he didn't think

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I was good enough, or whatever, but like, you know, I
don't -- I don't think that he was thinking that I
was coming on a visit or something.
And so when he called me, he was like,
hey, man, are you coming on a visit here? And I was
like, yeah. And he was like, what? And he was kind
of like -- he was like -- seemed like he was shocked
that, you know, that Coach Ollie and them had, you
know, wanted me to come on a visit -- or whatever the
case may have been. Because at that time, I was
getting like a bunch of attention from like, you
know, lower -- low-major, mid-major schools, and then
some high-majors were starting to come. So that --
that's what it was the first time.
And then just asking me about my
recruitment, like what else is going on, you know.
Because at first whenever -- because he was one of
the dudes that found out when I was transferring, and
so he was trying -- you know what I mean, he had told
me -- me and one of my friends from San Diego
transferred at the same time, and he was saying that
he would help us, you know, like get to another
school and all that type of stuff.

RR: Okay. So that last part,


just to be clear, so did you say that he had t
you thought about transferring from
Or what was that exactly?

Yeah, so onc rred from


-- when I was transferring from like I
had already decided and all of t and word
got out, and so a lot of people, you know, from LA
were hitting me up, you know, like what's your next
move? What do you want to do? Because I was still
out there. I was still in LA after -- after the
was over, when I was in -- at like
I stayed in LA and worked and like saved
ll of that stuff like the whole summer
because I knew I was about to go to , so I needed
to, you know, have a good amount of savings and
stuff.
So I was in LA for a while. I still
played in the Drew League, still was working out.
And that's whenever -- and me and my friend from San
Diego were hanging out, working out all the time

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together, and they had told us -- or some people had
knew him, and what I had known, and they were like,
yeah, he knows everybody. Like he can get y'all to
another school, you know what I mean? Like he has a
bunch of coaching friends. And we were like, oh, for
real? Like, yeah, we want -- whatever.
Because I was in a better position
because I had actually had film and stuff because I
played. But my friend didn't have any film, like
nothing. He barely played at San Diego. So he
really needed help. So he had really, really tried
to help him out and then help me out. But I had
already made my decision to go to , so that's
really -- so he just really just helped my -- one of
my friends.

RR: And was that in 2016, during that


time right before you went to the ; is
that correct?

RR: And so during that summer of


2016, what all contact did you have with coach
Griffin?

Oh, I didn't -- barely any --


none. Or the only time I did was whenever I -- let
me see. Might have been at the Drew League or
something. I saw -- I saw him once during that
summer, and that's whenever he was like, yeah, you
know, I'm going to help your boy out, you know what I
mean, give him my -- give him my number. And I was
like, okay, okay.
And then we both -- we both had texted
him, and he never -- like he never responded to my
boy, and he never responded to me. And so I was
like, oh, okay, probably just one of those dudes
that, you know, says it but then doesn't really help,
whatever. Like we'll get through it. So that was
it.
And then like I said, then that first

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conversation came once I was at . And so really,
that's why I was so confused on why he was like, why
didn't you tell me you were coming? Because I'm
sitting there like, you didn't even answer my texts
from four months ago when I needed it, you know what
I mean? Like whenever you had said that you knew --
or people were saying that you know all these
coaches.
So that's where -- that's where that
all comes into play now.

RR: Got you. Okay. So, I'm


just going to go back over this just to m re I
have kind of a complete picture of it. So right
before you went to the , kind of in
that summer of 2016, you said that you -- you saw
Coach Griffin at probably maybe a summer league event
or something like that?

Uh-huh, summer league or workout,


training, something. Yeah, probably -- I think it
was the Drew League though because that's where --
that's where I met 90 percent of the people I know
from LA.

RR: Okay. And during that time, you


talked to him about getting help transferring or, you
know, different school to go to for you and your
friend; is that correct?

Uh-huh. Well, he had said -- he


had said that -- to like get his number, and then he
would -- like to text him. So we were like, okay,
cool. Because we had already -- like I said, I met
him for the first time after my freshman year. And
then like, you know, a year and stuff had went by
because -- you know, the season and stuff, so I
wasn't in LA a lot. I was just out in Malibu.
And so then the next summer comes, so
then I'm -- you're back around the same people in the
summer. And he had said that, and we was like, oh,
man, we're going to be good, like we'll get to
another -- you know, little cool little D1. And then
we never heard from him ever again.

RR: But he -- did he tell you during

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that time to text him? Is that what you said?

Uh-huh. He just gave us his


contact information.

RR: And that was a yes?

Yes.

RR: And it was once you texted him,


he didn't text you or your friend back; is that what
you were saying?

Yeah, never texted us back.


Never -- nothing. Never talked to him. Didn't even
know if he gave us the right number.

RR: And that -- and your next time


that you talked to him wasn't until you were coming
on a visit to UConn; is that right?

Uh-huh. Right. Right when I was


at right before I came -- probably like a
week or two. Because it all went really fast. They
tried to get me on the visit really fast. Like
within like two weeks of that -- or three weeks of
that conversation, Coach Moore had flew out to one of
my games, and he got back and called me right away --
Coach Ollie called. So everything happened really
quick. And then he called.

RR: So it was right before your visit


that Danny Griffin called you; is that correct?

Uh-huh.

RR: And walk me through again, what


did y'all talk about?

He was just -- he had -- first


thing he said was, are you coming on a visit here?
And I was like, yeah. And then he was like, why --
why didn't you tell me? And I was like, I didn't
know I was supposed to tell you. You know what I
mean? And second off, I was like, you ain't never
respond to me, so like how am I supposed to even know

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like I'm supposed to even call you or anything like
that?
So that's what it was. And then he
just asked me how everything was going, how
recruiting is, who else, you know, was like looking
at me and stuff. And so, yeah, that was the end of
that conversation.

RR: Did he talk to you any about the


coaches at UConn or anything like that?

No, no. Because he usually -- I


think it was like a thing where, you know, I didn't
really ever talk to him about UConn because he was
there, so it was kind of weird. I don't know. It
was like separate. I don't think he was really like
a coach there or something.

RR: Got you. And then so -- then


after that, you went on your visit to UConn; right?

Uh-huh.

RR: And that was the official visit?

Yes.

RR: Did you take any other visits


besides that one to UConn?

Oh, no. That was my only one.

RR: Okay. And then you said that --


that Danny called you -- that Danny Griffin, he
called you after the visit; is that correct?

Yes.

RR: What did y'all talk about then?

After the visit, we just talked


about -- oh, because it was like a little bit after,
and he was just talking about the season, talked
about new teams that were coming, told me what to
watch out for as far as like teams coming later. And
he was just like watch out for them because usually

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when they're coming later, it's because they didn't
get somebody that they wanted early, you know what I
mean? So I was like, okay, I got you. And, I mean,
that was pretty much it from that conversation too.

RR: Did y'all ever talk anything


about the University -- about UConn, or just about
recruiting?

He tried to really keep it away


from UConn. I mean, I remember he asked once after
-- like during that conversation, I remember he was
like, so how are you feeling about here? And I
remember I was like, I mean, it's cool. I mean,
obviously I really like it. I loved Coach Ollie. I
loved him. So, I mean, it was cool. I just -- I
don't know. When I went on my visit, just the
coaches and the players, they just -- they just
didn't seem like they were all together or something.

RR: Okay. And then did you speak


with him, with Danny Griffin, anymore after that --
that last phone call after your visit?

Yes. I called him -- I called


him when I found out his sister passed. I called him
then. We had a conversation, and that one was just
about life. He was just -- he was really going
through it. He was really hurt. Him and his family
went through a lot during that time, so. I just
reached out just to send my condolences to him and
his family, and that was pretty much it for that.
And then anything after that was all
just like me and him knowing -- like me and him
knowing each other, talking, asking how everything is
going and stuff. Because I remember at that time,
I'm pretty sure, he didn't go back to UConn. Like he
was from LA. When his sister passed, I'm pretty sure
he never went back.

RR: at that point had you already


chosen to enroll at

No, I don't think so. Because I


don't think I made my decision until March -- March
something. Yeah, March something. That's probably

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it.

IU: Just to add, committed in


May because I remember we were (u lligible)
basketball tournament, and I remember when the
coaches had gotten the phone call from him. So
second week of March or so --

Uh-huh.

IU: -- would have been when he


committed to TCU, verbally committed.

That's when I released it. I did


it before --

IU: Oh, yeah --

-- I called --

IU: Yeah, maybe when we put it --


when like -- when he put it out there publically.

Yeah, I put it out publically


like the second week of March, but I d my
assistant personally, him and coach I told
them that I was coming for sure prob ike the
beginning of March. So they was like a week -- a
week separate because there was a special day that I
wanted to put it out on, and so they respected that.
And they were like, yeah, we won't tell anyone. We
just wanted to, you know, know so we could have that
like locked in, so.
So, yeah, I don't think so. I don't
think I really made my decision yet. But like I
said, once -- once his sister had passed, we weren't
really talking about basketball ever.

RR: Okay. How many times would you


say that you talked to him just about life and
everything during that time? How many calls did
y'all have?

Between -- between my -- after I


left for my visit and when I made my decision?

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RR: Yeah.

Oh, maybe -- so that phone call


that I recently said that we had talked after my
visit, like about two or three weeks after, probably
-- or within two or three weeks. That one, that was
-- he asked me, you know, how I feel about UConn and,
you know, who (unintelligible). And then after that,
the one with his sister and the one I called -- I
called him. And then from there, maybe another one,
if not two, before I actually made my decision
public.

RR: Okay. Great. That's very


helpful, Thank you.

No problem.

RR: Wanted to ask you about -- let me


just ask this before I move on. Did -- did coach
Griffin, did Danny, did he ever text you or anything,
or was it only just phone calls?

No -- yeah, he probably texted me.

RR: Okay.

Yeah, definitely. He probably


did text me.

RR: Got you. Is that phone that he


texted you, is it the same phone that you have now?

Say that again.

RR: The phone that -- or the number


that he would have texted you on, is that the same
number that you have now, the same phone?

Oh, I think so but it's -- I


don't have the same phone. Like I don't -- I have a
different phone. But I'm pretty sure it's my same
number, yes.

RR: Okay. Okay.

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You know what I mean?

RR: Right. You've gotten a new


phone, but it's probably the same number, is that
what you're saying?

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So I


don't know if that matters or not, but it is -- it's
the same number, I'm pretty sure because I want to
say I've had this number for like the last three
years. I want to say when I transferred I think I
changed my number. I'm not sure. I can't remember.
Because I had two different ones. But I'm pretty
sure that it's the same number I have now because I
know I haven't changed it during the recruiting
process.

RR: Okay.

Because that just happened, you


know, last year -- or not even then, you know,
several months ago.

RR: Do you recall what did Danny text


you about, do you remember?

I mean, I want to say the same,


like how is everything going or -- but really, really
it was never -- really I don't think he ever text me
like that. Even -- even if he called me or whatever
and I didn't answer, it was like he would text me and
be like, call me. And I just wouldn't call him.
Because I was kind of confused on like, you know,
what role he was, I guess, playing.

RR: Uh-huh. Okay. So it was


primarily just phone conversations?

Yes.

RR: Okay.

From what I remember.

RR: Okay. No, that's good. Okay.


Wanted to ask you about your official visit. Was

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Danny there during that time?

Yes.

RR: Did he -- did he play a role on


your official visit? Like did he help chauffeur you
around or -- or what was he doing primary during that
time?

He took me once to a dinner at


night, me, him, my mom, and my stepdad. I can't
remember where. I want to say -- I can't remember
which -- I think it was -- it had to be that -- it
had to be that night. But he took us there
because some -- the weather and all that stuff, and
my mom really wanted to go to this -- this really
nice steak house, and so we ended up going there.
But other than that one time, he wasn't -- he wasn't
with us the entire trip. You know, and that's why I
was saying that it was kind of weird. It was like he
wasn't a coach or something.

RR: Okay. Do you remember where it


was y'all went to dinner?

Oh, no. I definitely don't know


the name. It was -- it was so good though. It was a
steak house. It was dark, like inside.

RR: Yeah. Was it near the university


or --

No, no, no, no. It was in


Hartford, I know that.

RR: Okay.

Oh, it was Capital. Capital,


yeah.

RR: Capital, okay.

I think that's what it was


called, Capital. A really, really good steak house
or something. Yeah, I think so because my mom kept
talking about it forever.

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RR: Okay. And you said you thought
it was that night --

It had to be. Had to be.


Because that was the only night that -- night
when we flew in, I remember that night we didn't see
any coaches because that -- like I said, it was like
that hotel was with the airport or something. And
then the next day -- that was like the only dinner,
so it had to be night because the game was
on .

RR: Was there any other coaches there


with you?

On night?

RR: Yeah.

No because -- yeah, no. Huh-uh.


I don't know where Coach Ollie was.

RR: All right. Did you see Danny any


other time during your visit?

Yeah, like when we were walking


around the -- what is it? Like the gym and stuff,
resources.

RR: Did -- did you ever watch


practice while you were on the visit?

Yes, when I first -- when I first


got there after that coach that I can't remember his
name, once he picked us up and we went to breakfast,
after we left that breakfast, we were headed to their
practice. So we watched practice that
during that day. It was like -- probably like 12:00
to 1:00, I would say.

RR: Okay. And was Danny at practice,


do you remember?

Yeah, yeah, yeah. He was there.


He -- he was like walking around on like the sides

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and stuff. And he came and like said what's up, met
my -- met my folks. And then like asked me how my
trip was there, and then he like walked around and
like left and then came back. And he was -- he was
around, though. He was there. But he wasn't like --
he was just like in and out.

RR: Okay. So was he on the side of


the court or -- what exactly was he doing, do you
remember?

Yeah, just was walking around.


And then like I said, I was over on the side sitting
down with my parents, and he came and talked to us
for a little bit and then just was walking around,
like I said, left, came back to the gym. I didn't
know where he went. I was watching practice. I
mean, I wasn't really -- my eyes weren't really on --
I ain't even going lie, my eyes weren't really on
him. I was really just watching the team, watching
Coach Ollie. You know, I was trying to see how I
think I would fit in and if I liked the way he was
coaching.

RR: All right. Got you. Did -- did


Danny, did he ever make any comments to the players
or give them any direction or anything?

To -- Coach Ollie?

RR: Danny Griffin, during practice.

Oh, no.

RR: No?

Huh-uh.

RR: Did he -- was he talking with the


coaches at all, or did he keep to himself?

Just -- yeah, kept him to


himself. It was -- like I said, it was kind of like
he wasn't there. It was just weird.

RR: Got you. did he ever --

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Danny Griffin, did he ever tell you exactly kind of
what his role was on staff, or what he did?

I think -- when I came on my


visit, yes because I asked him. Because it was just
-- I just di tand it, you know what I mean?
Coming from we didn't have anything like
that, you kn ean? We just had the four
coaches, and that was it.
So I -- I had asked him, and he was
saying that he was like -- the team -- what did he
say? I can't remember what exactly the name is he
said, but he was saying that he was -- that he would
like get people to come in, and he was like, for
example, I'll have somebody come in and teach the
guys, you know, proper etiquette while they're eating
or something like that, you know. And I was like, so
like you're talking about like life stuff? And he
was like, yes. And I was like, okay. And that was
the first time I ever heard about, you know, a school
having like a life coach or something.

RR: Got you. All right. I'm


going to pause right there for a minute, o nd
I'm going to see if Mr. Kappel has any follow-up
questions for you, all right?

Okay.

BK: can you hear me all right?

Yeah, I hear you.

BK: Okay. Good. I'm going to bounce


around a little bit, so I apologize in advance, but I
have a couple of follow-up questions. I just want to
clarify a few things that you just discussed with
Russell, okay?

Okay.

BK: I think first things first, I'm


still a little bit confused about how you first were
introduced to Danny Griffin. And what I'm -- I'm
going to tell you what I think I understood, and then
I'm going to -- I want you to tell me if I'm right or

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if there needs to be more context, okay?

Okay.

BK: The way I understood what you


were telling us is that you met him while you were
playing basketball -- or at least you think you met
him while you were playing basketball in the Drew
League in LA, and that ld you, because you
were transferring from that he would be a
good resource for you t bout where to go
next; is that right?

Yes.

BK: Okay. Did you understand that he


was an UConn coach or recruiter at the time?

No.

BK: Okay. And so when you spoke to


Danny at one of those games, did you approach him, or
did he approach you? Or tell me how that worked.

So whenever -- whenever we were


there at the Drew League, it was -- so he was -- I
want to say he was standing there. He was s g
one of my te's dads, which
dad. mate
his d He layed
pers and
He was over there, and so I just went
up to say what's up to him, and he was standing right
next to him, so he was like, oh, you know, this is my
boy Griff. And I was like, oh, how you doing? And
we just shook up right then, and that was it, you
know what I mean? So from then I knew, you kn
dude named Griff that like was, you know, big
-- Big LJ's, you know, friend.
And from there, you know what I mean,
like a year had gone by. And then I had transferred
-- was transferring. And from then, the same thing
that happened in the Drew Leagues, like he was there
or something like that.
And from there, I remember Big LJ had
said -- because I had asked Big LJ, I was like, what

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you think I should do? Where do you think I should
go? Do you think I should -- because he played at
Cal. So I was like, do you think I should go -- try
to go to the highest level possible? Do you think I
should not? Whatever. And he was like, well, I
mean, it's on you, you know, whatever you think you
can do, whatever you can be okay with, you know what
I mean. Because he was like, you go to a high major,
you're going to have politics, whatever. Like just
the normal stuff everybody talks about. And then he
was like, you know, you know, Griff know everybody.
And I was like, that dude you introduced me to? And
he was like, yeah.
S from there, you know, that's
whenever me and was like, oh, okay, so we need
to talk to this ecause, you know, we were
stuck. Like we had nowhere to go. Like at that
point, I was still trying to go to another D1, you
know what I mean? Like I had -- I had signed to
, but I could still go to a D1 if I
wanted to. So I was just like, okay, let me sign to
, but like, you know, keep looking for D1s
because that's the whole point of it. So that --
that's where that happened.

BK: Okay. And just so we're all on


the same page, you talked a couple of times about a
friend you w d of approaching Danny with, and
his name is and what's his last name?

BK: Oh, I'm having trouble spelling


that. Can you do that for me?

Yeah - - - - - and
it's like a dash -- not a s i ? dash.
( gible). So hyphenated a t
G He goes -- he goes to
n

BK: Okay.

In California.

BK: Now so -- again, I'm

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going to recap it. I apologize. I'm trying to break
this down so I get the timeline 100 percent right.

You're good.

BK: You met him --

-- it's a lot of information.

BK: It's all right. We appreciate


everything you can remember. You met Danny Griffin
your freshman year when you were playing in the Drew
League. It was a brief introduction, father of a
teammate introduced him to you -- or introduced you
to him. And then you went back to that same father
of a teammate your sophomore year, and he told you
you should reach out to Danny Griffin again; is that
right?

Uh-huh.

BK: Okay.

Or yeah, he said I should reach


out to him because he was like, he knows -- he knows
all of the coaches. Because that was like one of the
coaches that LJ -- or whatever, boys from -- I don't
know, growing up maybe. But he was like, you know
what I mean, he knows many, many coaches. I was
like, that's all I need. I just need somebody to
give me a shot, you know what I mean?

BK: Yeah. And my understanding is


that all the folks who play basketball out in LA know
who Danny Griffin is, and certainly he has contacts
there as well; is that right.

Oh, yeah, for sure.

BK: Okay. So you reached out to


Danny. Danny said he would help you and your friend
Khalil figure out where -- what to do next or what
school to go to next; is that right?

Uh-huh.

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BK: Okay. And then that's when he
said -- or he said to text you, and you texted him,
and then he didn't call you back or text you back for
some period of time; right?

Yeah. Yeah, they were like --


well, LJ -- Big LJ gave us his number. And he was
like, yeah, you know what I mean -- and Coach Griffin
was like, yeah, just get my number from Big LJ and
just text me. I'm like, okay -- or me and Khalil.
And then we both do it -- we both do it at the same
time. We like, okay, let's do it right now. Let's
do it. I texted him like two or three days later, I'm
like, dude ever text you back? He ain't never text
me. He like, no, he never hit me back. I'm like,
dang, all right. I guess we stuck, back to square
one.

BK: Okay. And then -- so let me key


in on a fact there. Did -- did you ever talk to
Danny during this time period or did -- he apparently
talked to -- I'll say -- is it Big LJ?

Say that again. I'm sorry --

BK: So in other words, did you talk


directly to Danny, and did he tell you directly to
text him, or did this call come through the father of
your teammate?

Oh, yeah, LJ, Big LJ.

BK: Okay. So you weren't talking to


Danny directly during this time period?

No -- well, the one time when I


was actually , like the second time. The
first time, like you said, brief introduction. The
second time, which was a year later, is whenever --
he was -- it was like the same situation, like same
scenario --

BK: Okay.

-- like I was there at a gym and


Big LJ and Griff were both there, and it was the same

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thing. He was like, oh, yeah, Griff, this the dude
that knows all the coaches. And then he was like,
yeah, just get my number. And at that time, I didn't
know who he -- I still didn't know who he was.
But then once I texted him and nobody
-- and he didn't ever respond, or whatever, then I
asked Big LJ, I'm like, Big LJ, he never -- he ain't
never hit us, blah, blah, blah. And I didn't want to
bug because that's just not me. I'm not a dude
that's -- I don't buzz. Like I'm not going to hit
you again, you know what I mean? Like if you don't
hit me back, so. And he just said, he was like, oh,
I don't know, blah, blah, blah. And that's whenever
we had found out that he was the coach -- that he was
at UConn.

BK: Okay. So you didn't -- you


didn't actually know Danny Griffin was at UConn
during this time period?

Oh, no, I didn't --

BK: All right.

-- really care.

BK: Yeah, I'm sorry, I'm trying to


parse this a little bit more narrowly --

Yeah, no, no, you good. Yeah.


You straight.

BK: Okay. So the number that you got


came from Big LJ, but Danny told him to give it to
you?

Uh-huh.

BK: Okay. And you didn't know when


you were talking to Danny at this time that he was a
coach at UConn?

No, it wasn't even an


introduction like that.

BK: All right. So then let's flash

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forward a lit ve had a -- a
good year at UConn, coach
Ricky Moore, scheduled you
on an official visit. And then kind of out of the
blue, you get a phone call from Danny Griffin; is
that right?

Yeah, yeah.

BK: You know, I think you -- you said


that he asked you about your recruitment.

Uh-huh.

BK: You know, was that basically him


trying to get an update from you? You know, how did
you take that request?

So the thing is since I had


already -- like since I actually had met him and
since he -- like I knew that he knew LJ like, you
know, pretty well because like -- one thing first.
LJ -- Big LJ, he keeps to himself, you know what I
mean? Like he's a busy man, and he just keeps to
himself. So if he around you, and he got good things
to say about you, you know what I mean, it's just
word about LA like if you good with Big LJ, you just
a good person. So, you know, as long as he was good
with LJ, you know, I was like, okay, I know I can
trust him. So that was really it.
So I really didn't take it as, you
know, him trying to update me or get a little, you
know, little inside scoops so he can go and tell the
staff. Like I really didn't feel that, genuinely I
didn't. Just because before I even went to any of
the schools, whatever, you know, he had said that he
was supposed to help me. Whether or not he didn't
text me back, you know, like I wasn't mad at him or
salty. Like I said, I just looked at my boy, we
laughed, and was like all right, back to square one.
Because at the end of the day, you know what I mean,
like how am I going to be mad at somebody else just
because they didn't help me, you know what I mean?
Like people don't have to help you, you know what I
mean? People might help you, but they don't have to,
so why would you be mad at them.

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So I didn't take it like that. I
don't think I took it as like, oh, he's just trying
to get the inside scoop or whatever. I really
genuinely felt like he was really just trying to help
me out and, you know, knew I didn't really have
nobody in my circle like that for basketball.

BK: So kind of following up on your


previous conversation where he offered to help you;
right?

Say that again.

BK: So just following up on your


previous conversation with him where he just tried to
help you?

Yes. But at the same time, he


was like, are you coming on a visit here? And I was
like, yeah. Because at that time, I was like yeah --

BK: Okay.

-- in a way like I tried to --


you know what I mean, like I'm good without you.

BK: All right. I got you. Now,


let's move on to that second call, which is after the
game. And it -- I have one follow-up question really
about that. It sounded like he asked you -- kind of
gave you some general recruiting advice in terms of,
you know, when teams approach you what does that
mean. But you said that he tried to keep it away
from UConn during that conversation. Can you tell me
what you meant by that?

Yeah. Not like -- I could tell


that -- you know what I mean, because it could have
been easy for him to just ask me like, you know, all
these big questions about UConn, this and that. But
I mean, he really didn't. I felt like he was, you
know, trying to keep away from that just -- or maybe
he was doing that so I didn't feel like he was trying
to get the inside scoop, you know what I'm saying?
Maybe he was waiting for a couple more calls before
he did that. But he never did it, so.

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BK: Okay. And the next couple of
times you spoke to him were all surrounding the fact
that his sister had passed away; is that right?

Yeah.

BK: And then those -- you -- those


conversations, at least the first one, you initiated;
right? You reached out to him?

Uh-huh. Uh-huh. I found out


that his sister was sick and that he had -- he had
left to go back home, you know what I'm saying, to be
there -- like I want to say like the last week before
she had passed or something, and so, yeah, I reached
out to him. I called him.

BK: Okay. And then you said there


were one or two more calls after that fact. Were
those calls in any way touching on your basketball
recruitment?

In there, probably like one of


the last ones. It was in there. I remember, you
know, he asked me like what -- what's the newest or
whatever. Because at that time, I want to say I had
gotten -- cut my list down even more --

BK: Uh-huh.

-- like my top three. I had


called all the other schools and let them know, and
then I called the three schools that I had -- was
still, you know, in the running, and told them that
they were all the three, which was UConn,

BK: Okay. Again, was -- I think the


conversations that you mentioned, I think you said
they were mostly about life. Did you get the
impression that he was trying to recruit you during
those phone calls?

Oh, no.

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BK: And then the last thing that I
want to go over is the Saturday night dinner you went
to at the -- I think you said Capital Grille; is that
right?

Uh-huh.

BK: Okay. And it's a steak house in


Hartford is what I think I heard you say; is that
right?

Yeah, I'm pretty sure. Yes,


that's what I did. I'm pretty sure that's the name.
But yes, it was definitely a steak house.

RR: Okay. Can you tell me how that


meal kind of came about? Was that something that was
scheduled, preplanned?

Yeah, yeah. So on that day,


whenever we were, you know, going around campus and
all of that other stuff, I sat down and had a meeting
with Coach Ollie. And he really just had like a
presentation like put up just about the staff, other
players that had been there, the scheduling for next
year, just the whole nine. It was good.
And after that -- I want to say after
that we had went and ate with some of the team. They
had like a post-meal probably after the -- yeah,
post-meal after they practiced, and they -- I was
sitting in there talking with some of the teammates
and stuff. And then from there -- from there I want
to say -- we were talking about how the weather was
supposed to be bad that night -- or, you know, get
bad or whatever because it was already like going
crazy, like big snow.
And -- I want to say he just let my
parents go back to the hotel because they were tired.
They're a little older. So yeah, they went back, and
I think I went with some of the players to like their
rooms to check it out and stuff.
And then -- I want to say they were
like, yeah, so what do you guys want to do for dinner
tonight? Like they had just put it on us. So that's
when my mom just looked up stuff, and she -- because
she really wanted -- like I said, she really wanted

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to go to that steak house, like determined. So she
was the one that chose that. And they were like, oh,
it's in Hartford, it's far, you know, the weather is
going to be bad. And she was like, well, if we can
go, I really want to go to that, you know what I
mean?
And so from there -- and like I said,
Coach Moore wasn't on my -- like he was sick during
my visit, so he wasn't there. I feel like he would
have been there if he wasn't sick, but he was sick,
so he didn't come. So that's why it was just us
four.

BK: Okay. So at the dinner it was


you, your mother, your stepfather, and Danny Griffin?

Yes.

BK: Okay. And then I suspect I know


the answer to this question, but who paid for that
meal?

I mean, I have no idea because --


yeah, I don't know. I mean, obviously he paid for
it, but I don't know if that was the school -- the
school -- you know what I mean, like I don't -- I
didn't look at his credit cards or anything, so.

BK: Okay.

I'm not sure how all of that


worked. Because obviously I know the rules and
stuff.

BK: Right. So you say -- obviously


he paid for it. Do you have a recollection of Danny
Griffin paying for that meal?

Yeah. Like I know he paid for


it.

BK: Okay.

Like him. Whatever he used to


pay for it, I don't know. I wasn't paying attention.
But I know he paid for it because I know I didn't,

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and I know my mom or my stepdad didn't.

BK: All right. That makes sense.


And then the other thing I wanted to bounce back and
talk about was a little bit -- some of these text
messages. And you said he texted you a few times
mostly to say things like, call me. Were those --
can you put those text messages in the general time
line? Was this, you know, early on after the first
call while you were on campus, or was this between,
say, the second call and the third call when you
reached out to him about his sister dying? Or was it
somewhere in that time frame where you mostly were
talking and having these conversations that were
mostly about life?

It's really hard -- it's hard to


put -- it was like throughout the -- throughout my
year -- or throughout -- throughout all the calls,
you know what I mean?

BK: Yeah.

And it was just like if I just


didn't want to talk. Because -- because at one
point, it just got so overwhelming that I just
stopped taking calls, you know what I mean? Like I
literally text every coach, and I was like, hey,
listen, like it's getting really wild. I really need
to focus on like my season right now, you know what I
mean, and I feel like I'm looking too far ahead.
Because I just -- it wasn't -- it wasn't playing out
the way I wanted it to, you know what I mean?
Like I remember I think we had lost
one game where we shouldn't have, and I really took
it hard on myself because I felt like I wasn't there
mentally, you know. I was thinking about schools and
stuff. So I just cut all calls, you know what I
mean?
But, you know, some coaches still
tried to call, you know, like whatever. So I -- it
was more so like that, you know. Like he would call,
and I just really was not trying to talk. I ain't
want to talk. I didn't have anything -- I needed to
get some work done or get in the gym or whatever. I
just didn't want to talk, and so he probably was just

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texting me saying, call me, and I -- I wouldn't call
him back. You know, it was just brushed away until
that next phone call came or whatever and I would
answer or not. Or like I said, that call that came
after my visit.

BK: Okay. And I think I understand


what you're saying, that there might have been some
other phone calls that he made to you that you didn't
answer --

Yeah.

BK: -- is that right?

Yes.

RR: Okay. And just generally


speaking, do you know how many those were?

Oh, boy, no, no. I have no


include, honestly. I can't put anything on it. That
was a very wild time.

BK: Okay. Can you give me just your


general impression --

As far as calls.

BK: You know, during the course of


the interview, I've kind of got the impression that
he wasn't trying to -- you know, beating down your
door trying to recruit you to UConn, but that you
were just discussing things generally. Was he
calling you like a recruiter, or was he calling you
like another college's coach, or was he just
following up with you every once in a while?

Yeah, just following up --


following up, but at the same time, like even the
follow-ups, I just didn't want --

BK: Okay.

-- them. Because the thing is


with Coach Griffin, Coach Griffin can talk, boy.

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BK: All right.

Coach Griffin can talk.

BK: Yeah, I think I understand. All


right. Russell, that's all I had. I appreciate the
time to follow-up.

Oh, no, absolutely. Thank you.

BK: Russell, you still there?

RR:Yeah. Sorry about that. I had


accidently hit te button. I apologize.
just one thing I wanted to
follow-up on on just to clarify. I think when
you were talking to me before about that call that
you had with Danny Griffin after your visit, I think
you had said that -- and I don't want to put words in
your mouth -- that he did ask, you know, well, how
did you think about things here. Is that true? Or
did he ask that?

Yeah, he asked. He asked how the


visit was, like if I liked it.

RR: Okay. Got you t wanted to


clarify on that. One last thing, I think you
mentioned earlier that, you know, that visit I
think Coach Ollie talked to you -- kind of had like a
presentation about like former student athletes and
things there; is that correct?

Yes.

RR: At any time during that visit did


-- did you have any calls with any of the former
student athletes?

No.

RR: No? Okay. I'll check on that.


Brian, did you have anything else?

BK: No, that was it.

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RR: Does the institution or counsel
have any questions?

: No, we don't.

RR: All right. Well, I want


to thank you for your time today. I r
appreciate it. You've been very helpful just in
gathering the facts, and we really appreciate that.
Do you have anything -- before we end here, do you
have anything you want to add or clarify to what
we've talked about?

Oh, no, no, no. I'm good. But I


really appreciate it. Thank you, guys.

RR: Okay. Thanks, So I do


have a little bit more to go over h nd then
we'll be done. So the last thing I need to tell you
is that NCAA legislation requires that you help
protect the integrity of this investigation;
therefore, as the investigation continues, you are
not permitted to speak with others about what we
discussed today or any information related to this
investigation except that you may speak with personal
legal counsel, if you choose to retain it, and others
present on the call.
Failure to protect the integrity of
this investigation could result in an allegation that
you've violated the principles of ethical conduct
and/or the coopera rinciple. Do you understand
those statements,

Yes.

RR: Okay. At some point after the


NCAA completes its investigation, someone else
involved as a party in this case or their attorney,
legal counsel, or representative may request to
interview you about matters related to this case, and
we encourage you to agree to speak with them just as
you've agreed to speak with us. However, this does
not include any representatives from the media. So
if you do have any questions about who you can and
cannot talk to -- I understand that's a bit

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confusing -- please feel free to reach out to Ike
there on campus or he has my contact information, and
he can get in touch with me. So we're happy to
answer those questions for you, okay?

Okay.

RR: right. Do you have any final


questions for me,

No, I'm good.

RR: Okay. All right. Then I'll note


that this interview is concluding 4 p.m.
Eastern Time. Thank you so much, We
appreciate it.

Thank you.

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INTERVIEW OF KEVIN OLLIE
UNIVERSITY OF CONNECTICUT
MARCH 1, 2018

RR: All right. So I'll note that


it's 10:51 a.m. Eastern Time on Thursday,
March the 1st, 2018. And we're here at the
University of Connecticut. And for the
purpose of voice identification, I'd like to
ask each person in the room to state their
name and title.
Coach, we'll start with you, okay?

KO: Kevin Ollie, head men's


basketball coach at University of Connecticut.

RL: Ricky Lefft, attorney for Coach


Kevin Ollie.

MB: Mike Bailey, Executive Director


of the AAUP Chapter.

CS: Clint Speegle, outside counsel,


University of Connecticut.

HG: Henry Gimenez, outside counsel


for UConn.

AF: Annie Fiorvanti, associate AD for


compliance at UConn.

TH: Tom Hosty, I'm an NCAA director


of enforcement.

RR: And I am Russell Register, one of


the assistant directors of enforcement with
the NCAA. And I just want to note that this
interview is being recorded by myself and
Mr. Lefft, attorney for Coach Ollie, and the
institution.
But before going on the record, I asked
Coach Ollie if it was okay if we record today
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KO: That's correct.

RR: Okay. And then also want to note


for the record that we have a verbal agreement
with Mr. Lefft to keep his recording
confidential pursuant to Division I bylaw
19.5.8 and that he agrees not to release that
to any third parties; is that correct?

RL: That's correct.

RR: Okay. Also want to note that the


institution is recording as well and they have
a standing agreement with us to keep their
recording confidential pursuant to Division
I bylaw 19.5.8 and not to release to any
third parties; is that correct, Clint?

CS: Yes, sir, that's correct.

RR: Okay. Awesome. Also, prior to


going on the record, I handed you a form
entitled the NCA interview notice form. Did
you have a chance to read that form?

KO: Yes, I did.

RR: Do you understand that the


purpose of this interview is to determine
whether you have any knowledge of or
involvement in any violations of NCAA
legislation?

KO: That's correct.

RR: Okay. Do you understand that you


may be represented by personal legal counsel
during this interview and you've chosen to do
so?

KO: Yes.

RR: Okay. Do you understand that


NCAA bylaw 10.1 obligates you to provide
truthful and complete information in this
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KO: That's correct.

RR: Do you understand that if it is


ever determined that you provided false or
misleading information or withheld information
in this interview, then this could constitute
a violation of the NCAA principles of ethical
conduct and could impact your athletically
related duties as a staff member at an NCAA
institution?

KO: That's correct.

RR: Do you understand the information


provided during this interview may be shared
with other NCAA departments?

KO: Correct.

RR: Okay. Do you have any questions


regarding any part of the interview notice
form?

KO: No.

RR: And did you sign and date that


form?

KO: Yes, I did.

RR: Okay. Perfect. Thanks, Coach.

KO: You're welcome.

RR: All right. Coach, just what is a


telephone number to contact you at?

KO: .

RR: Okay. Is that cell phone or --

KO: Yes, cell phone.

RR: Okay. All right. And what's a


good email address for you, sir?




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KO: Kevinollie@uconn.edu.

RR: Awesome. Thank you, sir.

KO: You're welcome.

RR: All right. So just like we were


talking about before. Just going to start out
very general. So if you could, kind of run us
through your history with the University of
Connecticut. I know that you played here.

KO: Yes.

RR: If you could, just run us through


from that time through your coaching history,
that type thing.

KO: Yeah, I played here from '91 to


'95. Was employed here as assistant coach
2010, 2011, for two years. And then became
the head coach 2012, '13 to this certain -- so
this time now.

RR: Got you. And you were an


assistant coach under Coach Calhoun; is that
correct?

KO: Yes, that's correct.

RR: Okay. Awesome. And I know that


you have a lot of responsibilities as head
coach. But in a nutshell, what would you say
are your responsibilities in that position?

KO: Just to make sure it's a


compliance -- an atmosphere of compliance with
the rules, to have an open relationship with
the athletic department. Make sure our young
men that's on our -- inaudible -- be
academically sound. Also, basketball sound.
And just have great relationships with our
young men and just try to provide a way for
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their families.

RR: On your staff, Coach, how do you


divide kind of like the workload? How is, I
guess, responsibilities divided amongst your
staff?

KO: We have three recruiting coaches,


Dwayne Killings being one, Ricky Moore being
another, Raphael Chillious being one --
another. They are able to go out and recruit.
Their responsibilities are to be on the court
instructing our players, but their main
obligation is to have relationships with our
guys and make sure they're available for them.
We also have Tony Vasaturo who is our video
coordinator now. And then we have who
is our GA, graduate assistant.

RR: Okay. Very good. All right.


Thank you, Coach, I appreciate that.

KO: Uh-huh.

RR: Want to just -- I'm going to go more


into some more specific questions. This first
one is very general, though. I think -- you
know, we've learned that the staff puts
together kind of a practice plan.

KO: Uh-huh.

RR: As far as, you know, different


things that you do in practice and that type
of thing. If you could, kind of run me
through what the staff does in preparing for
practice?

KO: Preparing for practice, the first


thing I do and I always want to do is talk
about compliance, talk about scheduling and
talk about recruiting. So we start today,
even before we get in basketball drills or
anything like that, talking about those three
things. And also scheduling, especially with
the CARA, RARA. And making sure our guys are,
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but also have time to be student athletes
also.
So we talk about that extensively.
Sometimes it might be different than others.
But depending on what the circumstances and
the situations that we're discussing. But
periodically, we do that first and foremost
and then we go into the practice sheet --
practice plan.
And that goes over drills, different things
we want to emphasize from scout to scout. And
that's just different drills, different things
we want to do breakdown wise, bigs and guards.
And just formulate a great practice plan from
that -- we're efficient with our time. And
that we're concentrating on the things that's
going to allow us to win basketball games and
make our players the best possible players and
person -- people that they can possibly be.

RR: Very good. How does -- and I


know no two days are the same.

KO: Yeah.

RR: What's kind of, if you could kind


of an average day for one of the players, as
far as, like, when they have to report for --
either strength and conditioning or practice,
kind of what do they do all in a day -- an
average day?

KO: It varies, like you said. But


most of the time, we try to -- you know, it
depends on -- you're talking about out of
season or in season?

RR: We can go with in season.

KO: Okay. In season, that's pretty


much dictated on our schedule, what we're
doing with our guys.
If it's preseason, before games, you know,
or our after games. We really try to generally
stay on a three hour time frame with our gays.
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small groups during season because the wear
and tear on our guys is tremendous.
So we always try to take care of recovery
time. And then we go into practice. That
might be -- practice on the court an hour and
a half to two, depending on what we're
typically doing in those days. And it varies
through, you know, preseason to in season.
So -- and then we have situations where we
watch video, different clips from scouting
reports to our previous game. And that pretty
much generally happens two to three times a
week.

RR: How long do those film sessions


normally last?

KO: Fifteen minutes. These -- we try


to keep -- get our guys engaged a little bit.
But with this generation, it's hard so
usually, like, 15 minutes, 20 minutes. You
know, I don't really go past that. Scouts are
maybe generally a little bit longer because
you've got to go through personnel and a
couple plays that we think they're going to
run and we have to really go over it with our
guys.
So generally, 30 minutes if it's a scout;
regular, probably 15 or 20.

RR: And I might -- you might have had


already said, Coach, but just wanted to ask,
does that film question, is that normally
before practice or after or --

KO: Primarily before practice, yeah.


Because we want to get our guys in a
mind-set --

RR: Okay.

KO: -- of competing, kind of going


over what we want to do in a day or what they
was lacking of or what we did good.

RR: Okay. Before practice or at the




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start of practice, is there a warmup time or
how does that normally –

KO: Yeah, it's a warmup time. We let


our strength and conditioning coach get the
guys lathered. So it is a time for us to
stretch. A time to get them with a good sweat
and get their muscles ready to go for
practice. Sometimes I might come out and just
run a couple plays to -- when their mind is
fresh and then I have them stretch afterwards.

RR: How long does that warmup usually


last?

KO: Fifteen minutes. If I do a play,


probably like 20 minutes.

RR: Okay.

KO: Before stretch.

RR: Got you. Thank you, Coach.


That's very helpful. Wanted to ask about --
and I think you already mentioned it, CARA,
RARA.

KO: Yes.

RR: All that kind of stuff. Who on


staff is primarily responsible for keeping up
with time and logging -- and logging all of
that?

KO: Kevin Freeman is the head on


that. Our head manager is a part of that
also, .

RR: Okay. Do you know, what is his


process for -- does he plan things out or how
does he normally keep up with --

KO: He has something we call a drill


sheet and he does the drill sheets when we're
in practice. Him and his -- he does it
different times. If we stretch for 20
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If we did three-on-two, two-on-one, which
is a common drill that every basketball team
does, all right that took two minutes, three
minutes. So it allows us to get prepared for
the next practice so we're staying on that
CARA, RARA.
We're making sure we're not overextending
our basketball players, so it's a big part of
him doing that. And then Kevin Freeman
devises the schedule for the month in
coordination with .
And also, you know, our coaching staff, we
have an opportunity to look at those --
those -- that schedule for the month and go
over it and make any changes if we see it and
make sure we run it by compliance and make
sure it's all under CARA, RARA.

RR: Okay.

KO: And also we have a representative


from the team -- and I believe that's
that's involved in seeing, also, the
schedule too.

RR: Okay. Very good. I think you


said before -- just wanted to clarify for the
record. Is it the manager who's keeping up
with how long different drills run and that
type thing --

KO: Yes.

RR: -- during practice?

KO: During practice. I have a mental


note, but I don't sit there and just write how
many -- the minutes of the drill, but I have a
mental note in my mind, all right, that drill
took this long. You know, early in the
season, you have a tendency to be teaching, so
I can go over and say, man, that drill was a
long time because I had to teach it.

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KO: Early in the season.

RR: Got you. Is there ever a time


that -- that you have to make adjustments to
the schedule or anything like that?

KO: Yeah. Because we have a -- a


conference that's all over the map. You know,
down in Dallas and you know, for my
professional days, I lean towards taking more
days off because I want these -- I want our
student athletes to recover. I want their
minds to be fresh in the classroom too.
There are some times that we come back at
3:00 a.m. in the morning and guys have to wake
up for breakfast and go to class at 8:00
o'clock, which is very tough. So I may, you
know, find -- and you know, we talk to Annie a
lot about, you know, reducing some of the days
that we have off and taking it off the
calendar because I just know about our guy's
bodies.
And our practice -- getting organized for
practice, James Doran, the athletic trainer,
comes up every day. And also Edward, our
strength and conditioning coach -- Coach E
comes up every day. And I ask those guys what
they think about, you know, our student
athlete's bodies and their mental capacity,
physical capacity.
So you know, I make determinations on a lot
of info.

RR: Coach, in the time since you've


been head coach, have you ever felt like
there's been a day or times where the student
athletes went over four hours a day, countable
time, that they had to participate in?

KO: No. Only -- only days that maybe


possibly come close to that is the first day
of practice.

RR: Do you feel that during the --


during the time that you've been head coach,
that you've taken the off days that are

 


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required?

KO: Yes, I have, to my knowledge.

RR: Okay. Tom? Clint?

CS: Two quick follow ups.

KO: Okay.

CS: You talked about a lift before


practice. How long does that lift normally
take?

KO: In season, sometimes 15 minutes,


30 minutes smaller groups. Might go 45 at the
most. But it's pretty much around 30 minutes,
smaller groups. Get in, get out. And then we
get ready for practice.

CS: The warmup stretch time that you


talked about.

KO: Yes.

CS: Was that built into the hour and


a half to two hour estimate that you gave --

KO: That's correct.

CS: -- for practice?

KO: That's correct.

CS: Okay. Thanks.

RR: Annie?

AF: I'm good.

RR: Mr. Lefft, do you have any --

RL: Huh-uh.

RR: Okay. Okay. Coach, I wanted to


ask about a former staff member by the name of
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KO: Okay.

RR: What was Dave's role on the


staff?

KO: Video and recruiting coordinator.

RR: What were his primary, I guess,


day-to-day responsibilities?

KO: Anything video related. Any


plays that I put in, he has a Fast Draw and
he'll draw it up in Fast Draw so we can just
keep it in our play book file.
You know, recruiting things, setting up
Hudl accounts for our guys so they can see
plays. Also, recruiting days, logging those
in for our coaching staff and various things
like that.

RR: Okay. Very good. When did --


when did they end his employment, I guess, or
when did they leave?

KO: I know he went this past spring.

RR: Okay.

KO: Yeah, I don't know the date.

RR: That's okay.

KO: Okay.

RR: Was there ever a time, did Dave


have to meet with student athletes to go over
anything; do you recall that?

KO: No.

RR: Okay. Do you ever remember


anything at practice, did any coach ever say
if you need to go over this play a little bit
more or you need to learn it a little bit
more, just go see Dave; he can talk about it
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KO: No.

RR: Did you ever see Dave meeting


with student athletes going over film or
anything like that?

KO: No.

RR: Did you ever see Dave on the


court with a student athlete?

KO: No.

RR: Okay. Tom?

TH: Yeah. So you would kind of come


up with the plays and give them to Dave and he
would put them into Fast Draw?

KO: Fast Draw.

TH: And then he -- was he sort of


like the maintainer of that database of plays?

KO: Yeah. He was kind of the


maintainer of that database. We also had Fast
Draw on our computers also.

TH: Okay.

KO: So say for instance if a coach


was out recruiting and I put in a different
play, he'll most likely go to myself or Dave
to get the drawing, get the rendering of it,
get the printout of it. So we -- so they can
be on the same page too.

TH: All right. So I'm not familiar


with all the things, but is Fast Draw, is it
like a graphic? It shows on, like, on the
computer, like, an X and O and lines?

KO: Exactly. The lines, yeah.

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did Dave also maintain like a video play book?
In other words, would he have -- would he cut
the film so that he would isolate a play,
like, the fist play or something like that so
you could see how fist is run or something
like that?

KO: Yeah, during the game, as we ran


it, during our game, we'll come back and
Dave -- like, say for instance, I wanted to
show it to

TH: Uh-huh.

KO: Dave would get those certain


clips.

TH: Right.

KO: Put it together for


and then I'll go show it to

TH: Okay.

KO: So he had those plays in a play


book from our different game and then I show
it or our coaching staff would show it to the
bigs or the guards.

TH: Right.

KO: So Dave was in -- in control of


that.

TH: Were there any situations where,


like, either after a game or in a practice
where you, as head coach, may realize so and
so -- one of my players doesn't know these
plays as good as they should know; would you
ever reach a point where you recognize that
some of your student athletes didn't know the
plays and needed additional study work, I
guess, on it?

KO: I mean, some of our guys needed


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TH: Yeah.

KO: That's always freshmans and --

TH: Yeah.

KO: But I always advised our guys to


go to our coaching staff.

TH: Okay.

KO: And talk about plays if -- you


know, come up and talk to me about plays they
don't understand. You know, I promote that.
But --

TH: Okay. In your system, are there


certain players that need to know the plays
more so than others or does every student
athlete need to know every play and each role
better?

KO: Every student athlete needs to


know every play.

TH: Okay.

KO: I put a little bit more on the


point guards to know every position.

TH: Okay. That's what I was


wondering. Like, do -- are point guards maybe
more so than others really needing to know every
detail of the plays?

KO: I try to -- because I was a point


guard, so I try to promote that.

TH: Yeah.

KO: Not saying that they always do,


but I try to promote that, yes.

TH: Was there ever a situation


where -- at a practice that you ever




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instructed any of your players, if you need to
work on the plays or if you need to focus on
plays, go see Dave?

KO: No.

TH: Okay. Was there ever a time


where -- that if a particular player on your
team wasn't getting a play, that you
specifically told that kid, go see Dave to
get --
KO: No.

TH: Okay. My understanding up in


your office is like -- there's like this
room -- the situation room or something --

KO: It's called the situation room,


that's correct.

TH: And Dave had a desk in there?

KO: Dave had -- not a desk -- I guess


a desk, but he always sat at the --

TH: It's kind of like a conference


room?

KO: Right. Right.

TH: Yeah. Yeah. And Dave, that was


his spot -- his work space, I guess?

KO: That was his work space, but we


always met in there.

TH: Yeah.

KO: Yeah. So it was kind of all of


ours. Kind of like this conference room.

TH: Would there be occasions where


players would come through just to talk to
him, just to chat, you know, visit with him?

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promote all our student athletes to have
relationships with our coaches, come up to the
Werth center and spend time with us so we can
get to know them. You know, there's occasions
where they'll come by and just say hello and
laugh or joke at something and then, you know,
they're going about their way.

TH: Right. And I totally understand


what you're saying. As a coach, you want to
go over the plays with your student athletes
and teach them the plays and that your other
coaches are doing that. Was there ever
occasion where Dave kind of took that on his
own and tried to help the guys to learn the
plays?

KO: I'm not aware of that, no.

TH: Okay. Was there ever a situation


where players would go to Dave to learn the
plays?

KO: I'm not aware of that, no.

TH: Okay. And maybe this is a little


bit more benign, but was there ever a
situation where Dave didn't necessarily give
instruction but more or less put the plays up
so that players could see it? In other words,
he just said here's the play fist, but he
didn't necessarily instruct; he just like
showed them the plays? Was there ever a
situation where Dave was simply showing the
plays, not doing any instructing?

KO: I'm (inaudible) aware of.

TH: Okay.

KO: I know he maybe gave a diagram of


a play.

TH: Uh-huh.

TE: You know, but --

 


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TH: Sure.

KO: Yeah.

TH: And --

KO: But I'm not really aware of that.


But I imagine, you know, especially with the
Hudl account.

TH: Yeah. Did Dave ever do any on


court where he would show players, like, where
to be positioned for a particular play? Did
he ever do anything on the court?

KO: No.

TH: Okay. And during practice, where


would Dave be normally located?

KO: We've got two tables that sat


back off of practice. I'm don't think you --
I don't know if you've been over to our
practice facility.

TH: Uh-huh.

KO: You have? But there's two tables


and they usually just sit over there. Him,
Kevin Freeman, our graduate assistant, ,
that's doing the clock.

TH: Uh-huh.

KO: And that's where they'll sit at


during practice.

TH: Okay. I think that's all I've


got. Thanks.

KO: You're welcome.

RR: Clint? Annie?

AF: I think my only question, Coach,


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get with Dave to make sure you have the plays?
Like, because he's the keeper of, like, the
play book and that kind of stuff. I guess,
I --

KO: No. I talked to -- they're going


up and seeing our --

AF: Got you.

KO: -- coaches.

AF: Got you.

KO: And makes sure. But he also had


the Hudl account.

AF: Okay.

KO: Where we go through Hudl, so if


they had problems logging into Hudl --

AF: Right. Like that kind of a


thing?

KO: Yeah. They'll go up and see --

AF: Dave can you get logged in, that


kind of thing?

KO: Get you logged in, yeah.

AF: Okay.

KO: But to the extent of him showing


and --

AF: No. No. No. That is not what I


was asking.

KO: -- anything, instructing. Yeah.

AF: Just more like from a logistical


standpoint, can you make sure -- Dave can make
sure that you can have them from a login
standpoint?

 


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KO: From the Hudl, yes.

AF: Okay.

KO: If they have problems.

AF: Okay. All right.

TH: To that point, my understanding


is, like, in Dave's area in the situation
room, there's like a big screen TV or
something like that?

KO: That's correct.

TH: Would he ever, like, help guys,


like, who didn't know how to get into Hudl,
would he ever, like, pull Hudl up and show
them, like, here's the play? In other words,
would he demonstrate how to go into Hudl and
watch the clips?

KO: Not from my -- I don't recall any


of that, no.

TH: Okay. All right. Thanks.

RR: All right. Coach, wanted to ask


about -- going to switch gears on you.

KO: Okay.

RR: Wanted to ask about, in the


preseason, do the players play any pickup
games, that you know of?

KO: They do have pickup games.

RR: Do you know, how are those


organized; how do they find out about those?

KO: It's generally I think the players.


They pick a time and you know, they play.
It's really organized. I mean, just play and
we find out about them. I imagine a manager
might send out a text to the guys when they
find out the time, just making sure everybody

 


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comes. But we're really hands off with that.

RR: Okay. Does the manager, does --


are they kind of in charge of, like, sending
out texts about, hey, practice is at this
time? Hey, y'all need to go -- just kind of
in general?

KO: They have -- during the season?

RR: Yes. Yes, sir.

KO: Yeah, they -- they have group


texts to the players giving them their
schedule, yes. No coaches are on those. I
never see them.

RR: Okay. Do you know those -- in


preseason, those pickup games, have you ever
seen one of those or walked by or witnessed
one?

KO: No.

RR: Okay. Do you know or have you


heard if managers go to those pickup games?

KO: Managers go, yes.

RR: Do you know what they do?

KO: Have the time up there, probably


the score.

RR: Do you know if managers ever kept


any other stats or anything during those
pickup games?

KO: No.

RR: Okay. Was there ever a time over


the past four or five -- since you've been a
head coach, was there ever a time that the
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KO: Not that I'm aware of.

RR: Okay. Have you ever seen any


stat sheets from those pickup games in
preseason?

KO: No.

RR: Did -- I think you spoke earlier


about staff meeting.

KO: Yes.

RR: How often do y'all have staff


meetings, let me ask that question first?

KO: With my coaching staff?

RR: Yes, sir.

KO: Every day. If it's an off day


for our players, we don't -- we still meet,
but pretty much every day that we -- we have a
staff meeting together.

RR: Okay. Was there ever a point in


a staff meeting that coaches asked or there
was a discussion about what was going on in
pickup, how pickup was going, how certain kids
were going in pickup?

KO: No. Not really a big topic, no,


not at all. I mean, it might be, you know,
talked about a little bit, but you know, it's
coming from our two hours of practice with
them that we have. Our two hours in the
summertime with them and something comes from one
of the players saying something, you know, I've
got a crossover or something, but nothing to
the extent where we're talking about it or
evaluating our guys.

RR: Okay. Have you ever asked a


student athlete, hey, how's things going in
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KO: No.

RR: Do you know if any other coaches


asked -- have asked student athletes how
things have gone in pickup; have you ever
heard that?

KO: I'm not aware of that, no.

RR: Okay. Is there any practices or


anything known as captain's practice?

KO: Just pickup games.

RR: Okay. Is -- is that the same


thing or -- I know that that's a different
perception for everybody, so let me ask that.
When I say captain's practice, what does that
mean, I guess, in your perception?

KO: I don't -- mean, it's -- we play


pickup.

RR: Okay.

KO: Yeah so --

RR: So does -- for you, is that the


same thing as the pickup games we just talked
about?

KO: Yes, the pickup games.

RR: Okay.

KO: Yeah.

RR: Has there ever been a point that


you've asked how's things going in captain's
practice to your coaching staff or to other
staff members?

KO: No. Those are pickup games.

RR: Okay.




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KO: Yeah.

RR: Do you know, have the managers


ever talked to you about how things were going
in pickup games?

KO: No.

RR: Have you ever asked a manager how


are things going; how things looked in a
pickup game?

KO: No.

RR: Tom?

TH: Yeah. Have you ever -- have you


ever asked either managers or student athletes
or your coaching staff which student athletes
were attending preseason pickup games?

KO: Can you --

TH: Yeah, I was just curious, have


you -- did you ever ask anyone who's been
going to the pickup games?

KO: Like, managers or?

TH: Just anybody, have you ever asked


your managers, your coaches, or the student
athletes, like, who's been attending the
pickup games? Which student athletes are
showing up?

KO: No.

TH: Okay. And then Russell was asking


about stat sheets. Was there ever a situation
where anybody put pickup -- preseason pickup
stat sheets in your inboxes or anything like
that?

KO: Not that I'm aware of.

TH: Okay. Were there ever stat




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sheets kind of floating around the office,
like, on -- sitting on desks or --

KO: Not that I'm aware of.

TH: Okay.

KO: I don't check my mailbox. Larib


does it and I don't see it. I never see it.

TH: Do managers -- does anyone keep


stat sheets during the regular season? Like,
when you're in regular season practice mode --

KO: Uh-huh.

TH: -- do you guys -- probably have


some scrimmages from time to time. Do you
ever keep stat sheets for those?

KO: I don't see them, no.

TH: Okay. So --

KO: I'm not aware of them.

TH: You're not aware of anyone


producing or keeping stats on the --

KO: No.

TH: -- in season scrimmages? Okay.


And you're not aware of any out of season stat
sheets either then?

KO: No.

TH: Okay.

KO: I just love what y'all did for us


with the two hours.

TH: Uh-huh.

KO: Like, where I can be with my


kids.




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TH: Yeah.

KO: And learn, you know, and have a


relationship with them, so I just want to
thank you on that. Hopefully, those hours
going -- you can go back and talk to them.
But those hours are very important to me.
Pickup is really irrelevant to me. Those
hours that I have with those guys are special.

TH: Uh-huh. Good. Good. All right.


That's all I've got, Russell on that.

RR: All right. Clint?

CS: No.

RR: Annie?

AF: No.

RR: All right. Mr. Lefft, anything?

RL: No…I do have a question.

RR: Okay.

RL: Can I joint Lightfoot so I can


get one of those nice pieces of technology
they have down there? LeClairRyan
hasn't issued those to us yet, so I'm going to
have to take a picture so I can make my
boss -- my partners jealous, so I can get one.

RR: And for the record, that was the


iPads over here we're looking at. Very good.
Coach, wanted to ask about another former
staff member, Carlos Daniel.

KO: Yes.

RR: What was Carlos' role on staff?

KO: He was our strength and




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conditioning coach.

RR: Okay.

KO: You know, he was involved in any


strength and conditioning things that they
have to do in the weight room. He was
involved in the stretching at practice --
before practice. Actually, you know,
conducted when we got on the floor to get them
warmed up. And any preseason activity.
Any off season activity, I should say.
Running -- that pertained to that
conditioning.

RR: How long was Carlos on staff?

KO: Wasn't long. Which kind of threw


me to another subject, but Annie, six months?

AF: Not even.

KO: Yeah, not even that. That's not


a good subject, but that's all right.

RR: That's okay. Who was the


strength coach before Carlos?

KO: Travis Illian.

RR: Illian?

KO: Yeah.

RR: If you could, was -- did Travis


and Carlos, did they have a different style of
how they approached strength and
conditionings, kind of a different method of
how they worked out the guys; do you recall?

KO: I don't recall. You know, both


of them did a good job. I don't recall if it
was two different styles. They was two
different personalities interacting with our
kids, but of all, it was, you know, trying to
get the best out of them in any way possible.

 


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RR: Did Carlos do any drills or
anything in his strength and conditioning
sessions that stuck out as different or kind
of that you hadn't seen before, kind of
different from what Travis did?

KO: No. Just stretched them out.


You know, they did a lot of the same things.
But you know, different things -- just
different drills, not really that stood out
that they were two different entities. It was
pretty much the same.

RR: Okay. Did Carlos ever do any


circuits or anything out, like, on the court
or do any sessions out on the court?

KO: Yeah. I mean, I don't recall a


lot of them, but you know, I'm aware if he did
some different things on the court to get the
guys warmed up.

RR: And he was only here four or five


months, so I mean, I understand if you didn't
see --

KO: Yeah. Yeah.

RR: Did -- in the times that you did


see, did Carlos ever use a basketball in any
of his circuits or anything he did?

KO: Raphael brought up once with


me about a ball -- a medicine ball. And then
we took that over to Annie. I told him to get
the interpretation -- the right
interpretation, brought that over to Annie and
I think Annie and Carlos had an exchange to
get the right interpretation of the rules so
we're following those guidelines. That's the
only time that I -- that I heard anything and
we jumped on it immediately.

RR: Got you. Was there anything that


Carlos ever did that, in your opinion, went





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beyond strength and conditioning into practice
type activity?

KO: Not that I'm aware of, no.

RR: Okay. Tom?

TH: No.

RR: Clint?

CS: No.

RR: Annie? Mr., Lefft, did you have


any?

RL: Nope.

RR: Okay. Coach, wanted to


transition again. Wanted to ask about a
gentleman by the name of Derrek Hamilton.

KO: Okay.
RR: Do you know Derrek Hamilton?

KO: He's a workout guy out of


Atlanta.

RR: Okay.

KO: One of my good friends met him


back in 2001.

RR: Okay. And that's what I was


going to -- how long -- when did you meet him
or --

KO: 2001.

RR: 2001?

KO: Yep.

RR: Has Derrek ever been on campus


here?

 


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KO: Yes, he has.

RR: What was that for?

KO: You know, he's one of my good


friends. He came on campus one time, I
believe. He's been to my golf tournaments.
He's one of my golf buddies. His -- his son,
Tyler Hamilton and my son are best friends.
And I think he came up through his travels up
to Pennsylvania to go see his son at UPenn.

RR: Okay. Has Derrek ever done any


workout with players here at UConn on the
men's basketball team?

KO: No.

RR: Have you ever put him in contact


with a player from UConn?

KO: No, I haven't.

RR: I think you mentioned before that


he had stopped by.

KO: Uh-huh.

RR: Possibly.

KO: Yeah.

RR: Do you recall when that was?

KO: I don't recall. I'm not aware of


that. Not aware of that. I know he's -- not
aware of what the time that he's came up.

RR: Was it -- do you recall was that


just in the offices that you talked with him
or where that was at that you saw him?

KO: Yeah. Offices. I know he's been


at a basketball game. Came to the game, spent
about two days up, something like that. I
just don't know the time. Other thing, I know
he worked out . After he

 


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exhausted his eligibility, they hooked up. I
really like to stay away from all that,
workout guys for natural guys, agents.
Because I don't want to be involved in none of
that. I want to be involved with the student
athlete, getting them better. You know,
anything that they conjure up on their own,
that's nothing that I try to -- try to set up
because I just want those entities to be
different because that's a personal family
friend of mine -- he's like family to me, so I
don't want to get involved in that in our
relationship.

RR: I think you mentioned, Coach,


that he worked with ?

KO: Uh-huh.

RR: Did you say was that after he


exhausted eligibility?

KO: Yes.

RR: Do you recall when that was


exactly?

KO: Not really -- I mean, it was hot


outside, so I know it wasn't in January or
anything like that. It was after he exhausted
his eligibility and I know they hooked up to
work out. It was nothing that I set up.

RR: Do you remember where that was


that they worked out?

KO: I seen them one time in our


facility and other than that, I don't recall
where they ever worked out at.

RR: Okay. And just to clarify on the


record, was that the Werth facility.

KO: The Werth facility, yeah.

RR: Was it in passing, or where --




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KO: It was in passing, yes.

RR: Do you recall what they were


doing exactly?

KO: They was working out, I think.


He was rebounding for him or -- I didn't stay
there and watch. was sweating so --

RR: Okay. Do you recall, was there


anybody there besides and Derrek?

KO: No, I don't recall anybody else.

RR: Okay.

KO: Not at that time.

RR: Okay. Was that one time that you


saw them or was there multiple times or --

KO: I seen them one time.

RR: One time. Do you know how


found out about Derrek or got in contact with
him?

KO: No. I mean, Derrek is a


talkative guy, I guess. So no, I'm not aware
of how they hooked that up. But Derrek is
known through basketball communities as a good
workout guy.

RR: Do you know if paid for


Derrek to come work him out or to train with
him?

KO: I don't know that business


arrangement. I don't want to guess, but I
imagine, yeah.

RR: Did you ever see Derrek workout


with any other current or former UConn men's
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KO: No.

RR: Okay. Tom?

TH: Yeah. To Russell's last question.

KO: Okay.

TH: Did Derrek ever workout with a


former student athlete by the name of
-- what's his last name?

CS:

AF:

TH: ?

KO: I'm not aware of

TH: Okay. I mean, you know who


is.

KO: Yes. He was a


that came from and played here his
.

TH: Okay. Did Derrek Hamilton ever


work out with ?

KO: I'm not aware of it.

TH: Okay.

KO: Yeah.

TH: And how about ;


he's another former UConn student athlete; is
that right?

KO: Yes.

TH: Did Derrek Hamilton ever work


out with ?

KO: I'm not aware of that.




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TH: Okay. Was there -- did you ever
see Derrek Hamilton in -- you know, over at
the Werth center, I understand -- we walked
over there and there's a common weight room
between the men and the women's side of the
Werth center.

KO: That's correct.

TH: And did you ever see Derrek


Hamilton in the weight room with any of your
student athletes?

KO: Not aware of that, no.

TH: Or with ?

KO: I'm not aware of that, no.

TH: Okay.

KO: I never seen that.

TH: Is the weight room -- does it


have --

RL: Can I ask a question?

TH: Sure.

RL: I mean, he's been pretty


definitive about the fact that he's only seen
him work him out in the Werth facility on the
court.

TH: Yeah. Yeah.

RL: And so I'm just trying to


understand the relevance if he's now
answered -- asked and answered that a couple
of times for Russell.

TH: Sure. Then I guess I should have


raised it in the spirit of trying to refresh
your memory. If there was a sighting of




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Derrek Hamilton in the weight room. I was
just curious if that helps refresh your memory
as to whether you ever saw him in the weight
room.

KO: No, I never seen him in the


weight room.

TH: Okay. All right. Is the weight


room -- is it a controlled access room? In
other words, do you have to have a card key to
get into it?

KO: Sometimes. Usually, the door is


open.

TH: Okay.

KO: But sometimes it could be locked


and you need a fob to get in.

TH: Okay. If it's open, is that


because the door's been propped open?

KO: Yeah, it's just open and then it


sticks on the wall back there and it's just
open.

TH: Okay.

KO: It's not propped open.

TH: Okay. So --

KO: It's just open, yeah.

TH: Okay. All right. Would that be


during, like, normal business hours that it
would be open like that?

KO: Yeah, during school hours when


Coach Travis was there, Carlos was there, that
was pretty much generally what time it was
open. It's just not usually open when they're
not occupied there working someone out or in
their office. That goes with the women's




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strength and conditioning coach also.

TH: I think that may be all I have.


Let me just double check. No, that's all I've
got.

RR: Clint?

CS: I've got nothing at this time.

RR: Annie? Mr. Lefft, did you have


anything?

KO: May I use the restroom real


quick?

RR: Yes, sir. Yeah, we can take a


break. We're going to pause the interview at
11:35 a.m. Eastern Time for a short break.
(A recess was taken.)

RR: Okay. Just note for the record


that we just took a short break and resuming
at 11:45 a.m. Eastern Time.
All right. Coach, wanted to ask about a
gentleman by the name of Boo Willingham.

KO: Uh-huh.

RR: Do you know Boo?

KO: Yes.

RR: Who is Boo?

KO: Boo is a great friend of mine.


We met our freshman year here at college and
he was my roommate for four years and we just
had an ongoing outstanding relationship ever
since.

RR: Got you. Does Boo ever come on


campus here at UConn?

KO: Yes. He's an alumni. He does


come on campus periodically, yes.




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RR: Okay. Does he come up to the
offices or come to games; where does he come?

KO: He comes to games. He comes to


the office periodically, but not a lot. But
we do see him at games.

RR: Got you. Do you know, where does


Boo live? Does he live here or --

KO: He lives in Miami.

RR: Oh, okay.

KO: He's -- he lives in Miami.

RR: Okay.

KO: Yeah. But --

RR: Got you. Has Boo ever asked you


about a particular recruit that you had or
given you a comment on it or asked any
question?

KO: Not about a recruit, no.

RR: Do you know, has he asked any


other coaches about particular recruits that
they're recruiting or anything like that?

KO: No, not to my knowledge.

RR: Okay. And I know you're just a


tad bit busy during the games.

KO: Yes.

RR: But wanted to ask, when you


see -- do you ever see Boo at games?

KO: Yeah. He's about 6'11.

RR: All right.

KO: Yeah. He's kind of flamboyant a


little bit with different outfits, so I notice

 


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him and you know, that's one of my good
friends, but not during the games. But you
know, maybe before the game, you know, if he
gets there early and after the game.

RR: Do you know, where does Boo


normally sit or --

KO: He's on a blue card, so generally


the blue card -- correct me if I'm wrong,
Annie. It's kind of behind our basket or
behind our bench sometimes.

AF: Bench, yep.

KO: So he'll usually sit there -- on


road games, kind of sit there where everybody
else sits -- the donors sit at, I guess.

AF: Uh-huh, that's fair.

KO: Yeah.

RR: Is the blue card, is that for


alumni or --

KO: Alumni, yeah.

RR: Alumni? Okay.

AF: Uh-huh.

RR: In the times that you've seen Boo


at games, have you ever seen him talk to a
recruit that was there?

KO: No.

RR: Did you ever see, did he ever sit


next to a recruit or their family or anybody
like that in your experience?

KO: Annie will have a better idea


about that. I don't know about the tickets
requests and where they sit at.





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RR: That's fine. Just your best
recollection, that's all.

KO: Okay.

RR: Do you know -- I want to ask


specifically about just a couple of recruits
and see.

KO: Okay.

RR: Former recruit by the name of

KO: Yes.

RR: Did Boo ever ask about or


how his recruitment was going on anything like
that?

KO: I mean, no, not that I recall.


You know, he -- he was a -- I mean, he was a
basketball fan, you know, but not recruiting
and what we're doing with no.

RR: Do you ever recall Boo and


being at the same basketball game?

KO: Not that I'm aware of. I know


he's been involved with the -- he was involved
with that was at
So they play
team.

RR: Okay. And I was -- that was my


next, so thank you.

KO: Yeah.

RR: Led right to it. What was Boo


and s relationship?

KO: Boo was a mentor to That


came about with . And that
relationship started when was in the
. And it just continued, him being

 


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a mentor to the kid and him being around a lot
of inner city kids that was trying
to give a better opportunity to. And then
started an AAU program -- a local
AAU program, football program that some of
these kids can outlet some of their energy
instead of being on the streets.

RR: And just for -- who is


?
KO: He's the legal guardian of

RR: Okay.

KO: is older now, so I


don't know if that title still exists but --

RR: Okay. Did -- do you recall


exactly how Boo and relationship
started, like, when did they first meet?

KO: In the sixth grade -- summer


of his sixth grade year from my recollection.

RR: Was it -- do you recall, was it


through a mentorship program or anything like
that?

KO: No. I don't recall that. That's


just -- , I guess, wanted to -- I
know he had knew Boo and wanted him to be a
mentor to some of these kids. And that was
how the relationship started from my
recollection, from what Boo has told me.

RR: Okay. Do you recall -- and


was he a recruit of UConn's? Was UConn
recruiting him?

KO: Yes, we recruited -- we actively


recruited him.

RR: Who was his recruiting coach; do


you recall?

 


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KO: Ricky Moore was the lead on that.

RR: Did -- did ever take any


visits here to UConn?

KO: He took one. I don't know if it


was unofficial or official. But he did come
up here -- he actually sat with Amanda to go
over some of his grades, making sure he was on
board with that, being compliant with the NCAA
rules to be in school and be permitted into
our university.

RR: For eligibility?

KO: For eligibility wise, yes.

RR: Do you recall, did Boo accompany


for that visit?

KO: No. No.

RR: Okay. Do you remember -- did


anybody come with

KO: , I believe. And that


could have been the time that he was looking
at .

RR: Do you know, did Boo ever go see


at ?

KO: I'm not aware of that. Yeah, I'm


not sure.

RR: Okay. Tom?

TH: Yeah. What does Boo Willingham


do for a living?

KO: I know he's a car broker, but


other than that, I don't know.

TH: And with


; is that like,
?




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KO: Yes.

TH: Okay. And Ricky Moore was the


recruiter for

KO: That's correct. The lead


recruiter, yep.

TH: Did Ricky Moore ever go down to


for whatever reason when he's
recruiting

KO: was actually there for about


.

TH: Uh-huh.

KO: So it was a real quick stint, so


not from my knowledge. He got in a fight
after one of the games and then they -- they
kicked him out, so it wasn't a long, long
stay.

TH: Do you know where is now?

KO: is incarcerated now.

TH: Did -- has Ricky Moore ever had


occasion to go to ?

KO: Yeah, on occasion. Ricky does a


lot of recruiting outside of the East Coast,
so he generally don't go, but I imagine he'd
went a couple times.

TH: And I think Russell asked this,


but I just want to make sure. Are you aware
of Boo having any conversation with
about coming to UConn?

KO: Not that I'm aware of.

TH: And you're not aware of Boo


having any conversation with is that




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correct?

KO: Not that I'm aware of, yeah.

TH: I mean, you didn't see it or --

KO: I didn't conduct it or make it


happen or nothing, no.

TH: Okay. I think that's all I have.

RR: Okay. Clint?

CS: You said Ricky Moore might have


had, on occasion, gone to ; do
you know what prospective student athlete that
was to see?

KO: No. Maybe . But Glenn


Miller was the head of and he was very
protective over his recruits. I like to have
all of our guys go see a prospective student
athlete and have relationships with those
guys, but Glenn was very protective over his
recruits. But I imagine, he went to go see a
player or was playing a team
that he was another prospective
student athlete on.

CS: Okay. So he might have seen


play, but it wasn't necessarily
at ; is that what you're
trying to say there?

KO: No. I was just saying he might


have watched a game at watching
someone else, but it wasn't a particular
perspective student athlete that he was
looking at at .

CS: Okay.

KO: Glenn Miller was the lead on


And I don't think Ricky ever had a
prospective student athlete play for
; that's what I'm saying.




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CS: Okay. Great. Thank you.

KO: Yeah.

RR: Annie, did you have any?

AF: No, thank you.

RR: Mr. Lefft, did you have questions?

RL: No.

RR: Okay. Coach, wanted to ask about


an individual by the name of Wayne Tolson.

KO: Uh-huh.

RR: Do you know Wayne?

KO: Yes.

RR: What does he do for a living?

KO: He has a teleconferencing


business called One Conferencing. He was a --
he's not an employee anymore. He was a part
of SunTrust, but he don't work in there
anymore, no.

RR: When he was at SunTrust, was he a


financial advisor or do you recall what he
exactly he did?

KO: I know he was the VP of sports, I


believe. I don't know exactly what he did.

RR: Do you know if he and Boo knew


each other?

KO: Yes. We've met -- kind of going


over the history kind of how you did with all
the other names that you brought up. I met
him when I was 19 years old, my freshman year,
and we've been friends ever since. And Boo
met him at the same time. So they do know




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each other.

RR: Got you. So Wayne was a student


here at UConn or went to UConn?

KO: Wayne -- no, Wayne was a student


at Wesleyan University, but he was best
friends with Chris Smith.

RR: Oh, okay.

KO: Who was a senior my freshman year


and that's how we met Wayne.

RR: Oh, okay. Do you know if there


was ever a meeting with Wayne and

KO: No, I'm not aware of that.

RR: Okay. Tom, anything else?


Clint? Annie? Okay. Okay. Coach, wanted to
ask just a couple more questions about
recruitment.
I think you said before, but Glenn Miller
was the primary recruiting coach for
is that correct?

KO: That's correct, yep.

RR: Do you recall taking an


official visit here to UConn?

KO: Yes. Official visit, yes.

RR: Do you remember when that was?

KO: That was -- I think he got up


here on the -- December ,
2016, I believe.

RR: Okay.

KO: Trying to jog my memory. I think


that's right. . I
don't know -- I think he was coming back from
an event. So I believe that's --




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RR: Got you. A lot of stuff has
happened since.

KO: Yeah. Yeah.

RR: Do you recall who was with him?


Did any of his family come with him?

KO: Yes. His sister -- sister came


and his brother. And they came in different
transportation. I think he flew in from an
event and I think they came in from New York,
I believe.

RR: Okay.

KO: Just trying to get my thoughts.


But I know his sister and his brother
accompanied him on official visit.

RR: Do you recall what all you --


what all did on his official visit?
Like, I guess, what was the itinerary for?

KO: Yeah. It was so quick. I


believe we had a game -- game. I
believe it was, like, the ,
somewhere around there.
He came on the visit. And what we
typically do, we have an itinerary. We have
them go meet the president. Meet Dave
Benedict. Have a tour. That's a short one
because it was in December, so it's pretty
cold here in Storrs. I know we had -- I think
the Christmas party at our house -- my house.
And a presentation -- we always have a
presentation with our recruits.

RR: Uh-huh.

KO: So I know that always stands out


to our recruits. Show them the facility. I
imagine he went to shoot around on the day of
the game and I imagine he went to practice the
day of -- the day before the game.




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RR: Got you. The -- the presentation
that you were talking about, was that after
the meal at your house or when did that take
place?

KO: It was before. Because we have,


like -- it's not something formal. Meal, have
fun, play video games, play ping-pong. So we
don't want a presentation happening at that
time. So I imagine -- I believe it was
before. We usually do it at the Werth center.

RR: Okay.

KO: In my office. But I believe


because of the party, we did it at my house,
if I are recall -- yeah, at my house, if I
think about it. Yep.

RR: Okay. Do you recall, what


exactly is included in the presentation; is
it --
KO: Just introductory to UConn. His
was a little different. If you -- I don't
know if you're abreast of

.
So we kind of had two different
presentations. One if he came right away; one
if he stayed at the prep school or just stayed
in his -- stayed in his original class. So
just going through the education of UConn,
what we can do for him as a man, as a
basketball player. Everything about UConn.
First of all, them guys have a desire to
get their degree. That's real big on our
presentation, academic wise and all the people
we can have him around, resources. That he
can become an ambassador of this great
university and let this propel him to greater
levels in his basketball career, but also in
his personal career.
So we just kind of go through those steps.

 


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How he can greaten himself in this program,
you know, and be a stand out young man.

RR: How he can fit?

KO: Yes.

RR: Got you. Do you recall who all


was there for the presentation?

KO: Just me and my coaching staff. I


believe -- I think his sister and brother was
there, yes.

RR: Okay.

KO: His sister and brother was there.


And just the coach -- immediate coaching
staff.

RR: Okay. Who was on the coaching


staff at that point -- or that time?

KO: Glenn Miller, Dwayne Killings,


and Ricky Moore.

RR: Did the team come a little bit


later or how did that work?

KO: Yes.

RR: Okay.

KO: They came a little bit later, but


it was -- I don't know the time.

RR: No, it's fine.

KO: Yeah, they came later on.

RR: And you said did y'all just have


a meal or what all did y'all do?

KO: When the team came?

RR: Yes, sir.





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KO: It was a meal. Larib will
usually set up that. It was from probably a
local restaurant -- catering restaurant. And
we just sat down, had a meal. That was --
that was it, you know. Talked. I think there
was a basketball game on. We'll throw the
basketball game on.
I just really wanted the kids to relax and
you know, and just be around -- just have a
family atmosphere like they're back home with
their families. And I try to just promote
that. I love to have our recruits see that
when they come on the visit. That it's a
family atmosphere and that we all get along.
You know, we're on the same page.

RR: It was around the holidays, too.

KO: It was around the holidays, yeah,


so that's a big thing around the holidays.
And it was -- it was a good time.

RR: Okay. Did you say Larib, is that


your executive assistant?

KO: That's my executive assistant,


that's correct.

RR: So she joined that night; she


brought the food; is that what you said?

KO: She didn't bring the food.

RR: Okay.

KO: She organized it. And I guess


the restaurant -- I don't remember what
restaurant or if we had it catered. They set it
up, but she kind of just organizes everything
and -- you know, with the team manager. Kind
of organizing, putting the food out so the
guys can just eat and relax a little bit.

RR: Okay. Other than, I think you


said during the presentation, it was just your
immediate coaching staff that was there.

 


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KO: Uh-huh.

RR: And then the student athletes got


there a little bit later. Other than them and
Larib, who joined, was there anybody else that
came over?

KO: The staff. You know, Larib, I


believe. Dave was there. Danny Griffin was
there I believe. And that was -- that was
about it. My family was there. My daughter,
Cheyenne, my son Jalen, and my caregiver,
Nancy was there, I believe.

RR: Okay. Was there ever a point


that night during the event that you and
had a private conversation or
separated from the group?

KO: I don't recall. I mean, we had


times where we talked, you know, and not got
away, but just talked. And you know, maybe
just talked and laughed, just me and him one
on one. But I don't really recall it, like,
often. It's just what I usually do, you know.
Still at the party, but me and him just kind
of talking one on one a little bit.

RR: Was there ever a point, that


evening, that got to talk to some
former UConn student athletes on the phone or
anything like that?

KO: Uh-huh. Yes.

RR: Can you speak to that a little


bit?

KO: Yeah. He did talk to Ray Allen.

RR: When did that occur; do you


remember?

KO: I don't remember. It was during


the party.

 


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RR: Okay. How did -- how did he get
on the phone with Ray Allen?

KO: It was on an iPad, I believe.


And was there and you know, he was on
the phone with Ray, I believe, for a couple
minutes and that was it.

RR: Okay.

KO: From my recollection.

RR: That's fine. Were you present


with him whenever he was on the call with Ray
Allen?

KO: I mean, he talked to my family.


You know, he talked to a couple of the
players. I don't remember the players, but I
know he talked to a couple players wishing
them happy holidays. And then I know Glenn
came over with Hami, I believe and was like,
can he get on the phone with him? And that's
how that transpired.
And you know, Ray talked to him for a
couple minutes and talked about our
relationship and that was it.

RR: So had -- who called who? I


guess, how did -- how did that work?

KO: I have no idea. I don't recall


that.

RR: Okay.

KO: I was in the party and you know,


and that happened.

RR: Do you recall whose iPad that was


or --

KO: I believe it was Larib's. Her


iPad, yes.




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RR: Okay. Did you hear what -- what
Ray and talked about, what their
conversation entailed?

KO: Yes. It was just a conversation.


I mean, it didn't last that long from my
recollection. And it was about our
relationship, me and his relationship.

RR: Did -- did Ray talk about kind of


what a special place UConn was or anything
about UConn or did he specifically talk about
kind of your relationship?

KO: Talked about our relationship. I


don't recall him talking about a special place
at UConn and those things.

RR: And I think you answered this,


Coach. I just wanted to ask just to clarify.
Do you remember, did -- did Ray call -- try to
call you or how did the phone call originate,
I guess, is my question?

KO: I'm not aware of that. I just


know Ray was on the iPad and that's my
recollection of that.

RR: Okay. So when you were -- first


became aware of it, he was already on the
phone?

KO: Yes.

RR: Okay.

KO: And I did have him talk to my


family.

RR: Okay. Did -- at that -- whenever


talked to Ray, did that strike you as
that potentially could be an NCAA issue or did
it give you pause in any way?

KO: I just -- it was just -- it was


something that happened. You know, I didn't




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think too much of it because it was just real
quick. It was nothing I planned or put
together, so I didn't think anything of it too
much.

RR: Was there ever a time before


visit in staff meeting or any time
that you as coaches talked that y'all talked
about possibly having talk to a former
student athlete?

KO: No, not that I'm aware of. I


know this was Glenn's prize project, so I
don't know behind the scenes, did he do
anything, did he have conversations with other
people or have former recruits call or talk to
anybody, but he was very protective over his
recruiting of Very protective.

RR: Okay. Tom?

TH: Yeah. The call on the iPad, do


you know how it was done? Was it a face time
call or was it a cell phone call?

KO: I'm not for sure.

TH: Was Ray's face on the --

KO: Yeah, that's face time. Yeah. I


don't know. If it originated from a call or
not.

TH: Okay.

KO: I wasn't there when the call came


in or anything like that.

TH: But Ray's face was a visual that


he was -- you were able to see his face on
that iPad?

KO: I believe, yeah.

TH: Okay. And do you have Ray


Allen's contact information?




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KO: Yes.

TH: Do you know whether any of your


staff have Ray Allen's contact information?

KO: On our current staff? I know


Glenn Miller had --

TH: Just staff at the time of the


visit.

KO: Yeah, I know Glenn has it.

TH: Okay.

KO: I know Larib has it. Ricky Moore


probably has it. I mean, he's an alumni here,
so a lot of our guys have our -- have their
contacts. I can't speak for them, though, but
I know Larib has it.

TH: Uh-huh.

KO: Glenn has had it because Glenn


has professed that he helped Ray Allen get his
jump shot so --

TH: So it sounds like -- was Ray


Allen on the call for -- at least for a little
while because it sounds like he spoke with
, but he also spoke with some of the
players there at your house; is that right?

KO: Yeah, that's what I recall. He


might have said hello to a couple players and
wished them Merry Christmas. Everybody is
down in my basement, so I know -- I know my
daughter probably spoke to him just to say
Merry Christmas. I think he asked about
that -- asked to do that.

TH: Uh-huh. And how old is your


daughter?

KO: She's 16.




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TH: Okay. Was it a situation where
the iPad was passed around, or was it -- or
did someone just hold it up so that Ray could
talk to everybody or --

KO: Yeah, I don't remember that. I


don't recall that.

TH: Was there -- while the call was


occurring, was there ever a time where just
you and had the iPad in a room by
yourself?

KO: I don't recall that, no.

TH: And -- and so I think you


indicated that while Ray -- somehow the call
originated; you weren't sure how it
originated, but while Ray was on the call, he
was talking with some of the UConn players and
that's when Glenn Miller kind of stepped in
and asked if could speak with Ray Allen;
is that correct?

KO: Kind of how I remembered it,


yeah.

TH: Would that have been out in the


open? In other words, when Glenn brought
to the phone or to the iPad, was that
sort of like in a common area where people
were around or was it in a private room?

KO: It was kind of like in a common


area if I recall.

TH: And --

KO: But my basement is pretty big, so


it's different areas.

TH: So Ray spoke with your daughter.


Did he also speak with your son?

KO: Yeah, they was both right there.


Just very brief. Merry Christmas, from my




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recollection.

TH: Yeah. Do you have a recollection


of how long Ray's call lasted?

KO: No, I don't.

TH: Okay.

KO: It wasn't that -- I mean, it


wasn't that long. He said hello. It was
pretty much Merry Christmas. But he did talk
to for a short couple minutes and that
was it.

TH: And on that point -- and I know


Russell asked you this about whether you
thought Ray's talking to was a
violation. And I think you indicated you
didn't really -- it just happened and didn't
really think too much about it.
Did you -- did you -- did the thought ever
cross your mind to bring it to the compliance
staff's attention that our prospect actually
talked to Ray Allen on his official visit?

KO: Yeah, I just thought it --


because it was unplanned and it happened, that
it -- that I didn't bring it to the
compliance. So that was just my -- my thought
process with it.

TH: And then going back to another


line of question that Russell had. In the
build up or the lead up to official
visit -- and maybe this happens. You can tell
me. But do coaches, generally, when a
prospect -- before they make their official
visit, are there discussions about the
planning of the official visit? You know, the
different things that are going to occur
during that official visit?

KO: Yes. Because we get to know the


prospective student athlete over his
recruitment, what he likes to eat, what does




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he want -- what does he want to major in? So
we kind of orchestrate the official visit on
the curiosities outside of basketball, inside
of basketball, what he likes and try to keep
it around there so we can keep his attention
and keep him engaged with things that he
likes.

TH: Was there ever -- have you ever


talked with your coaches at any time while
you've been the head coach about the
brotherhood that exists among the UConn
basketball players?

KO: Yes. Yes.

TH: And have you ever tried to


demonstrate that brotherhood to recruits?

KO: Yes. I mean, just talk about it.


We talk about Coach Calhoun, events that he's
had at Mohegan Sun and 35 players come back
and play in a game. And we experienced a
brotherhood and we talk about the NBA
brotherhood. That we have almost 32 players
in the NBA and they talk about the
brotherhood.
So that's always, you know, mentioned.

TH: Did you ever talk about this


brotherhood with

KO: Yeah. You know, about the UConn


brotherhood, yes.

TH: Got you. Did you ever tell


that you were going to show him the
brotherhood when he came to his visit?

KO: No. I wanted him to feel the


love. I wanted to roll out the Husky blue
carpet and show him what family atmosphere we
have.

TH: But -- I guess what I'm leading


up to is I was just curious if you recall

 


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making a comment to that when you come
to visit, I'll show you the UConn brotherhood
and then that's when the call with Ray Allen
occurs to kind of demonstrate that; is that
what happened or –

KO: No.

TH: Okay. And then was there a


second call to a UConn former player that
night?

KO: I'm not aware of a second call.

TH: Rudy Gay played here, right?

KO: That's correct, yes.

TH: Does that refresh your memory;


was there a second call with and Rudy
Gay that night at your house?

KO: I'm not aware of that second


call.

TH: Okay. And do you have Rudy Gay's


contact information?

KO: Yes. I don't know if it's the


right one. They change their phone number
every week but –

TH: Would your staff


at the time that it existed during 's
visit, would they have had Rudy Gay's contact
information?

KO: Yes. We always try to keep


current players in the NBA's contact. Just
wishing them happy birthday, Merry Christmas,
little things like that. Play good in the all
star game. Had a big game. Yeah, so I try to
kind of promote that.

TH: Uh-huh. And let me ask one other


question kind of in the spirit of trying to
refresh your memory. Do you recall that night
at your house, whether Larib handed you the
iPad so that the call to Ray Allen could be





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made?

KO: No. I don't recall that at all.

TH: And what -- after the call with


Ray Allen occurred, was the iPad returned to
Larib?

KO: I imagine. Yeah, I didn't keep


it.

TH: Right. I mean, it's her iPad; is


that correct?

KO: I believe, jogging my memory,


yeah, it was -- it occurred on her iPad.

TH: Okay. I don't I have any other


questions.

CS: I've got a few.

TH: Okay.

CS: Is it her personal iPad or is it


an institutional issued iPad?

KO: I have no idea.

CS: Have you ever given her an iPad?

KO: No. That's not my job, to give


her an iPad.

CS: Does Larib know Ray Allen?

KO: Yes.

CS: How does she know him?

KO: Just being an alumni here, coming


up here. Ray is a very outgoing person,
interacting with people. He wants to know the
ins and outs of our university, how he can
help. So just knowing -- knowing him from
that. I mean, he's a part of the board of

 


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trustees.
He was actually here last week and spent
some time with us.

CS: Are you aware of any other


occasion where Ray Allen and Larib have
spoken on the phone or on face time?

KO: I'm not aware of it, but I


imagine it happens just being my executive
assistant.

CS: Was Ray Allen aware that y'all


were having this Christmas party on this given
night?

KO: No. I don't believe so. I


never -- it never -- it never was mentioned to
him.

CS: Would Ray Allen have any reason


to call Larib on this particular night on her
iPad?

KO: That's something you can ask -- I


don't think so, but no.

CS: All right. Thanks.

TH: I've got one more question. Did


, at the time of his official
visit, did he have the contact information for
Ray Allen and Rudy Gay?

KO: No, not that I'm aware of.

TH: Okay. All right. Thanks.

KO: Like I said, Glenn Miller is --


he was very protective over his recruits.

TH: Uh-huh.

KO: Very secretive.

CS: I've got one more question.

 


Ollie Admin 0735


Sorry. Do you know why Larib had her iPad at
the party?

KO: No, I don't. Maybe to organize


some stuff. No, I don't.

CS: Is it routine for her to carry


the iPad around?

KO: Yeah. She has a lot of things,


Google docs on there, appointments on there.
She's my executive assistant and she does a
lot of stuff for our university, so I imagine
she has her iPad or anything that she
communicates with on her a lot of times.

CS: Okay. Do you know if the iPad


has cellular service or was it wifi only?

KO: I'm not for sure. Some of them


do have wifi and cell or phone service on most
iPads, I believe, so I don't know about her
particular one.

CS: Okay. Thanks.

RR: Annie?

AF: Nothing. Thanks.

RR: Mr. Lefft, do you have any follow


ups?

RL: Not right now, no.

RR: Okay. Coach, wanted to ask about


a former staff member. You mentioned him
before, Danny Griffin.

KO: Yes.

RR: What was Danny's role on staff?

KO: He was personal development,


player development. I'll go back again, I've
been knowing Danny a long time. I think you




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get the point, I try to have people around me
that I trust.

RR: Uh-huh.

KO: So I've been knowing Danny since


I was in tenth grade at Crenshaw High School
in Los Angeles. He was a senior. We've been
friends ever since. He joined our staff after
our championship year and you know, he's been
through a lot in LA and he came through it.
He overcame it as an entrepreneur in LA.
Owns a couple Wing Stops, so I thought it
would be a great opportunity to kind of show
our players development outside of basketball.
He was a part of our staff for social
events here, bringing the guys over to job
fairs. Nothing basketball related. I wanted
to keep him away from all that. Really just
designed for our players. Teaching them how
to tie ties. How to open banking account,
checking accounts here.
Curiosity in the community. What they want
to do in community here in Storrs. Here in
Hartford. For their communities back home.
He was just involved in all that. Just the
player development side outside of basketball.
Because I think that's very, very big.
Because like we say, a lot of our guys don't
make it. And the thing that I hate is these
guys come up here, get idolized as UConn
basketball players and go back home and don't
have nothing to show for it.

RR: Uh-huh.

KO: And I don't want that to happen


on my watch.

RR: Development as people?

KO: Development as people, yep.

RR: Did -- did Danny sit in on staff


meetings?

KO: He did sit on staff meetings,




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yes.

RR: Okay. Any time in staff


meetings, did Danny ever make -- give any
feedback or input on particular recruits or
anything like that?

KO: No.

RR: Was there anything that Danny


ever said that -- that gave you pause or made
you think that he had talked to a particular
recruit or a family member of that recruit or
something like that?

KO: No. But anybody knowing Danny,


he's a talkative person. He loves basketball.
He's entrenched in the LA basketball scene,
California scene, and he knows a lot of
people.
But it was never a point where he brought
up any of their names or anything like that
about recruiting.

RR: Do you know -- what -- did Danny


have any responsibilities as far as when a
recruit was on campus for, like, a visit? Did
he have anything to do with unofficial or
official visits, any duties?

KO: No. Just to be around and show


the family atmosphere.

RR: Did -- did Danny go to practices?

KO: He did go to practices. Not a


lot of them. Not like Kevin Freeman or Dave
Sevush. Danny was always walking around
talking to -- you know, Trish was one of his
really good friends. She works here. And
kind of setting up different things, so when
they got off the court, they was able to, you
know, go to job fairs or anything like that.
So he was always kind of walking around
doing that and not just at the -- at
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RR: So he was kind of in and out of
the office?

KO: In and out of the office or, you


know, going to talk to a doctor -- professor
here to set up something that was a social
activity around campus.
He just was never, like, a person that was
always at practice. He was setting up other
things and other events while we was in
practice so he can have relationships around
this campus to help our student athletes.

RR: I was about to say so he had to


reach out to other departments and people
across campus to --

KO: Job fairs, whoever set up the job


fair, you know, go over and talk to -- I
believe it's People's Bank still and the
people at People's Bank to set up a meeting
with them. You know, people come in and talk
about domestic violence. You know, he was
involved in that -- setting that up. When the
police came in to talk to our student
athletes. He was part of setting that up.

RR: When Danny was at practice, what


would he do during that time?

KO: He'll just sit over at the table.

RR: Is that where I think you said


before, where Dave would sit or --

KO: Where Dave sit. Our director of


basketball operations, which is Kevin Freeman.
They all -- that all sat at that table.

RR: Do you recall a time where Danny


was on the side of the court or gave any
direction or instruction to a player?

KO: No, I'm not aware of that at all.




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RR: Did you ever -- did -- did you
ever overhear or did Danny ever say that he
had called a recruit?

KO: No.

RR: Did Danny ever bring up that he


talked to a family member of a recruit?

KO: No.

RR: Or did you ever hear that he had


talked to a family member of a recruit?

KO: No.

RR: Do you know if Danny ever visited


a high school of a recruit?

KO: No.

RR: Okay. Coach, I want to ask you


about a specific evaluation that you made.
And if it's okay, can I show you the
recruiting log?

KO: Evaluation I made?

RR: Yes, sir.

KO: Okay.

RR: And just for the record, I'm


showing this to you and your attorney. This
is Bates stamped as UConn Document 0013.

KO: Uh-huh.

RR: So this is just the institutional


record, correct? Does this look like the
JumpForward recruiting log?

KO: Okay.

RR: There's one that's highlighted.

KO: Yes.




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RR: As a high school evaluation at
Sierra Canyon school. And then it has coaches
and then it says KO. So does that stand for
Kevin Ollie?

KO: That's correct, sir.

RR: Okay. Do you recall this


evaluation that was made?

RL: Can I see that?

RR: Yes. Yeah.

TH: Does it reflect a date; can you


put that in the record?

RR: Yeah. Sorry. It's at the top of


it.

TH: Hey, Ricky, can you put the date


into the record?

RL: It's October 21st, 2014.

RR: Okay. I know that's making you


think back a bit. But do you remember ever
being at Sierra Canyon?

KO: Yeah, I recall --

RR: Around that time?

KO: I don't know about that time.


But I recall being at Sierra Canyon before.

RR: Okay. Where is Sierra Canyon


school?

KO: What's that?

RR: Where is Sierra Canyon located


at?

KO: I have no idea.




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RR: Okay.

KO: It's in the valley somewhere. I


went to Crenshaw, so we didn't have a lot of
valley schools back then.

RR: It's in --

KO: Now, it's all valleys now, so I


don't -- when I go back to LA, I usually don't
go to LA -- or go to the valley.

RR: Okay.

KO: So it's somewhere out there.

RR: Got you. And that's what I was


just asking -- it's in LA area?

KO: Yeah. We call it the valley, but


yeah.

RR: Okay. Go you. I'm not from


there, sorry.

KO: Yeah, exactly. That's --

RR: So do you remember if there was a


recruit that y'all were recruiting at that
time that was at Sierra Canyon?

KO: I can't remember his name. Yeah,


he was one of the kids that got
. I think he was there.

RR: Could that have been -- is


that –

KO: Not the boss. That's whole other


something. We ain't touching that. The other
kid.

RR: Could that have been Cody Riley.

KO: Cody Riley, yeah, I think, jog my


memory.

 


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RR: But he might have gone to Sierra?

KO: Yes.

RR: Do you recall, were there any


other coaches there with you or would have
gone with you to Sierra Canyon?

KO: I don't remember that evaluation


but –

RR: Okay.

KO: -- might have been Karl Hobbs


or -- it was probably Karl Hobbs, if anybody
else. You have the log sheet, so I don't
know. I mean, yeah.

RR: Yeah. This is it from that time


period.

KO: Okay. Does it show the coaches?


Just shows me.

RR: Yeah, just you.

KO: So I think it was probably just


me.

RR: Okay. And the reason I ask,


Coach, about this is it was reported to us
that Danny was at Sierra Canyon with you on
this evaluation. Does that jog your memory at
all or bring anything back or --

KO: No.

RR: Okay. Was there ever a time that


you were --

KO: Was that before he became a coach


here?

RR: I'm not sure of his exact time


that he started.

KO: Okay. You might look back on





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that.

RR: Yeah.

KO: He might not have been a coach


here.

RR: Okay. Yeah.

KO: I think he started after my


championship year. So this is the '14?

HG: October '14.

RL: Yeah, 2014.

KO: 2014.

RR: Okay.

RL: So when did Danny become from --

HG: That's the start of your run,


right?

KO: Yeah.

HG: '14, '15?

KO: No, '13, '14.

AF: '13, '14.

KO: Yeah. He came on after that, so


he -- he probably was here.

RR: Okay.

KO: Yeah.

RR: And my next question is just do


you ever recall any time that you went to LA
that Danny joined you at a high school --

KO: No.

 


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RR: -- for an evaluation?

KO: No.

RR: Or a contact?

KO: Not at all.

RR: Okay. Okay. Tom?

TH: Did you have any knowledge at any


time of Danny Griffin going to Sierra Canyon
high school even without you but just going on
his own to Sierra Canyon?

KO: Not at all.

TH: And do you know whether or not


Danny Griffin --

KO: Can I rephrase that? Like, I


don't know what he did before he -- he was
employed here.

TH: Okay. And when -- what were


the -- when did he start at UConn?

KO: 2014 -- 2014, 2015. It was


after -- he wasn't on the championship team.
I think it was right after that, yeah.

TH: Okay. And how long was he on


staff for?

KO: For two years. Two years and a


half.

AF: And we can confirm the dates if


that would be helpful.

KO: Yeah.

AF: I don't know off the top of my


head.

KO: He was just let go of his duties




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this past spring.

TH: Okay. So he would have been with


the team from -- based on your recollection --

KO: Yeah.

TH: -- the '14, '15 season; '15,


'16 season?

KO: Yep.

TH: And '16, '17 season?

KO: Yes.

TH: Okay.

KO: Yep. Yes. So three years, yeah.

TH: And do you have any knowledge


whether Danny Griffin had any contact
whatsoever with ?

KO: No.

TH: Okay. Or with Cody's family?

KO: No.

TH: Okay. Did Danny Griffin know any


of the staff or coaches at High
School?

KO: No, not that I'm aware of.

TH: Okay. Thanks.

RR: Clint?

CS: Similar question to what Tom just


asked. Do you know if Danny Griffin had any
relationship with the family of former PSA
?

KO: No, I don't know. Not aware of


that.




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CS: Do you recall if Ricky Moore ever
accompanied you on a recruiting trip to the LA
area during this time period?

KO: I mean, we've got the records. I


mean, I don't know offhand. I imagine he went
to LA with me one time. But you're saying
2014?

RL: Can I -- can I make a point here


real quick because I think it's important.
We're talking about four years ago. So you're
asking him to recall off the top of his head
whether or not a coach -- and you're basically
asking him to make a representation that
you're going to rely upon. So you know,
absent some documentation, I mean, that's one
isolated piece of paper.
I mean, is there something else that he
needs to look at or can re -- have you got a
specific question? I mean, you want us to go
back to look at the records? I mean, but you
know, to ask him to recall four years ago, you
know, I mean, I think that's -- I don't know
how -- how you could expect any degree of
accuracy, okay?

CS: That's understood. And we're


just asking him for the best of his
recollection. If he doesn't remember, he
doesn't remember.

RL: Okay.

CS: Just I'm looking here and this is


on October 21st. It looks like you did a face
to face contact with a PSA, . In
the report that it was you and Ricky Moore.

KO: Yes, I do remember that. Yes.

CS: You do remember that?

KO: Uh-huh.




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CS: Where is Billy Preston located?

KO: Billy Preston is located -- he


went to Kansas. I don't think he ever played
at Kansas. I don't know where he's located
now.

CS: Do you remember where he was


located at the time that you did the –

KO: He was at the high school. I


forget his high school, Redondo or -- I forget
his high school where we was at.

CS: So he's from the California --


southern California area?

KO: Yes.

CS: And Ricky Moore was there for


that face to face contact?

KO: Yes. He was the lead recruit on


. Yes, that's correct.

CS: So if the log says that you were


at Sierra Canyon on that particular day and
Ricky Moore was -- and it doesn't say Ricky
Moore, but Ricky Moore went to see
with you, it's possible then that
Ricky Moore went to Sierra Canyon also?

KO: It's possible, but it's probably


not possible. If it wasn't logged in because
we can go to LA and be at two different gyms.

CS: Okay.

KO: So that's a possibility. If we


didn't log it in that way, I don't think he
was there.

CS: Okay. Thanks.

KO: Uh-huh.

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about recruit

KO: Yes.

RR: Who was primary


recruiting coach?

KO: Ricky Moore.

RR: Ricky Moore.

KO: Yeah. I believe, yeah, Ricky.

RR: Okay. Did you know, did -- did


Danny Griffin know or his family?

KO: Not that I know of. Maybe


through basketball circles, but that's it. I
can't -- you have to speak to Danny about
that.

RR: Do you recall ever -- did Danny


ever mention or was anything ever said that
Danny spoke to or his stepfather or
his mom, made calls to them?

KO: I'm not aware of that.

RR: Okay. Wanted to ask another


recruit, do you remember that
name?

KO: Yes.

RR: Do you remember -- who was his


primary recruiting coach or who recruited him?

KO: Ricky Moore.

RR: Ricky Moore? Do you recall, did


Danny ever say that he talked to on the
phone; did he ever call

KO: I'm not aware of that. Never


brought to my attention at all.




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RR: Tom?

TH: What does Danny Griffin do now?

KO: I think he's assistant coach at


one of those California schools. Cal State
with Reggie Theus. Cal State North Region.

TH: Cal State North Region --

KO: Yeah.

TH: Okay. Is he a coach there?

KO: I believe so. I'm not for sure.


I think he's a coach or he's assistant coach.
And he's able to recruit. Yes, he is
assistant coach. He just came out to Rhode
Island.

TH: While Danny was employed at


UConn, did he live in the area of UConn?

KO: I believe he lived in Manchester.

TH: Okay. Did he live at -- did he


ever spend part of his time out in Los Angeles
area while he was here working at UConn?

KO: Yeah, he did. Unfortunately, his


sister died of cancer. He went out there when
she first got diagnosed. And she rapidly
deteriorated and he went out there for the
funeral and I gave him as much as time as he
could have to grieve. So -- she was a great
person. So that's the time he went out there
to grieve with his family.

TH: You don't recall the time frame


of that --

KO: I don't know, it was during the


season. I don't recall it, but he went out
there for a long stint of time to just be with
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TH: Do you remember which season it
would have been?

KO: That was -- I believe that was


last year.

TH: Okay.

KO: I'm not for sure. I think it was


last year.

TH: 2016?

KO: Yes. Yes. I'm for sure it was


last year, yes.

TH: And you indicated he was kind of


a successful entrepreneur. Owned a couple of
Wing Stops out in LA?

KO: Yes. Uh-huh.

TH: Did he have to ever go back out


to LA to maintain his ownership of those
restaurants?

KO: No. He kind of did that over the


phone and he had reliable people running the
business, from my recollection.

TH: And I guess what I'm getting at


is besides his sister, her passing, would
there have been other occasion where Danny,
while he was employed at UConn, would have had
to spend time out in LA for any reason?

KO: I mean, that was the biggest. I


mean, I imagine there was a couple problems
that happened just in life that he went back
home, but nothing that really sticks out in my
mind.

TH: Okay. He wasn't necessarily


maintaining two residents, like, one in LA,
one in the UConn area, was he?




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KO: I'm not for sure.

TH: Okay.

KO: I just didn't really get in his


personal business like that. I know he had a
residence here. I don't know what he had in
Los Angeles.

TH: Did Danny ever do any on


court instruction?

KO: No, he didn't.

TH: Okay. All right. Thanks.

RR: Annie? Coach, while Danny was


employed here, did y'all ever have any
discussions about the fact that he was not a
countable coach, that he was not permitted to
do any recruiting type activities, anything
like that?

KO: All the time. I promote that.


And before practice, I told you, we go there.
Annie and her staff has been doing a great job
having transparency. Our communication is a
thousand times better since I started. And we
just go over, each and every day, if rules and
education. I just want our coaches to be
compliant.
I want our staff to be compliant. I want
everybody to be compliant. And that's what I
promote in this program, so yes.

RR: Coach, I wanted to ask about a


recruit,

KO: Yes.

RR: Who is -- was his primary


recruiting coach?

KO: Coach Raphael Chillious.

RR: And Coach Chillious, what school


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KO: Washington University.

RR: Did -- do you know if he had a


recruit there,

KO: Yes.

RR: Okay. Do you recall ever hearing


anything where talked with or
that there was a conversation between the two?

KO: Not aware of that at all.

RR: Okay. Did that ever come up in


staff meeting at all that it would be good for
to talk to about -- about
Coach Chillious or kind of his reputation in
the community -- basketball community?

KO: Yeah, not in our staff meetings.

RR: Okay. Okay. Tom?

TH: No.

RR: Clint?

CS: Huh-uh.

RR: Annie? Mr. Lefft, did you have


any follow up?

RL: I just have one question. In


terms of your practices, how frequently do you
have -- I mean, is it common that compliance
and/or the athletic administrator comes to
your practices? Are your practices pretty
open?

KO: Pretty much open. Vic is


probably our number one person that's over
there pretty much every day. He's our
assistant athletic director. Annie comes over
periodically. And Dave Benedict does a good
job coming over too.
We also see Amanda, Eric Snyder that just
came aboard. We have -- have an opportunity





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to speak to our guys on any legislations that
come involved. So we just try to have an
open, transparent conduit between our
athletic department and our basketball
program. I think that's the only way to do
it.
So our guys know it's not only the staff,
they can also come to the athletic department
and get interpretations of the rules also.

RL: And I'm assuming that those


visits are impromptu?

KO: Yes.

RL: They're not scheduled; I mean,


Annie doesn't have, like, a Monday, Tuesday,
Wednesday schedule?

KO: No, not that I know of.

RL: Okay. Okay.

KO: She does just come to check in


sometimes. I don't know.

RL: All right. Okay.

KO: But we do have our meetings. And


I think Dave Benedict has done a great job
since he's been here, getting those meetings
together where Annie comes over, Amanda comes
over. Everybody comes over from the athletic
department and we go over rules. We go over
admissions. We go over a lot of different
things over there. They usually take 45
minutes. We go over our academics. And then
if any coaching staff that's out recruiting
misses that meeting, we have follow ups with
Annie and them so they're all on the same page
too.

RL: The other question is your


expectations for Danny Griffin and for Dave
Sevush, they, likewise, are they required to
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KO: Yeah. They was in those meetings
too.

RL: Okay.

KO: Dave Sevush was in those


meetings, yeah.

RL: Okay.

RR: Thank you, sir. Hopefully I


won't have to continue to ask this same
questions, but do you recall a recruit by the
name of

KO: Yes.

RR: Who is recruiting


coach?

KO: It might have been Glenn Miller


or Dwayne Killings. I think it was Glenn.

RR: Okay.

KO: I think it was Glenn.

RR: Do you recall where


committed to or where he enrolled as a student
athlete at?

KO:

RR: Has there -- have I had any


conversations in staff meeting or at any point
with any coaches about the fact that
might want to transfer?

KO: No.

RR: Has that ever come up in any


conversations with any coaches within the last
year?

KO: No. I mean, just when he





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transferred.

RR: Okay.

KO: You know, they usually come on


Twitter. He transferred. But that's pretty
much the extent of it. I didn't know he was
looking to transfer.

RR: Do you know if any coaches have


reached out to recently or his family?

KO: No. he's at another school now.


He's at now, I believe.

RR: Okay.

KO: Yeah. So I'm not aware of that,


no.

RR: Okay. And I'm pretty sure I know


the answer to this next question because
you've said it, but I just want to get it on
the record.

KO: Okay.

RR: Did -- did UConn have any


interest or the coaches have any interest in
trying to see if wanted to transfer to
UConn?

KO: No, I didn't even know he was


wanting to transfer.

RR: Okay.

KO: Yeah.

RR: Tom?

TH: Nope.

RR: Okay. Clint?

CS: Nope.





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RR: Annie? Okay. Mr. Lefft, any --

RL: No. We've been going for a


little while. Are we going to -- I know we
got started a little bit late. When do you
anticipate that we're going to take a break or
is there a break time, a period -- I mean, is
there -- no. No.

KO: No, I'm good. We can keep going.

RL: Okay. That's fine. I just --

TH: There's probably -- I don't know


what you want to do, Russell, but we could
probably cover a couple more topics and then
we could take a break and then finish up with
the last areas. I mean, it's --

KO: How long is the last areas?

TH: It's hard to say. You know, we


might have another hour in front of us so --

KO: I'm ready to push through. I


don't know about y'all.

TH: Okay. Yeah.

KO: Yeah.

TH: If anyone needs a break, we can


do that.

KO: Rick, how's that sound to you?

RL: In about ten minutes -- I don't


need anything to eat, but I'm going to need
to -- nature is going to call me.

KO: Yeah, me too.

RL: Yeah. Okay. So I'm sorry.

RR: We can take a bathroom break.





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No, that's perfectly fine.

RL: All right.

TH: About ten minutes?

RR: Yes, we can do that and that's no


problem at all. Okay. Coach, just wanted to
ask just on general -- sorry, just making sure
I'm in order. About -- and we talked a little
bit about official and unofficial visits.

KO: Yes.

RR: Can you walk me through on


unofficial visits, is there -- does the staff
know when a kid is coming for an unofficial;
what's the normal procedure, I guess, when it
comes to those?

KO: Yes. Of course, we know when an


unofficial visit has transpired. That's pretty
much the lead recruiter. Some official visits
are more important than others, depending on,
you know, the type of player.
So he usually comes on campus. We know the
rules of unofficial visits. Can't provide any
entertainment. You know, food or anything. I
know only able to give three tickets, I
believe. That's the -- that's the rule. But
other than that, we show them around our
facilities.
If we do have a pickup game sometime in the
summer, they might join that on unofficial
visits, but it's not anything we prompt and
conduct and make happen.

RR: Got you. On official visits, I'm


assuming, with those --

KO: Official visits?

RR: Official visits. Switching over


to official.

RL: The first -- but you were working


about unofficial previously.





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RR: Correct. I was asking about
unofficial.

KO: Oh.

RL: Okay. All right. Okay.

RR: Yes, sorry. Thanking over to


officials now. I apologize.

KO: Okay.

RL: Okay. Great. Thank you.

RR: Should have made that one clear.

KO: Yeah.

RL: Okay.

RR: With official visits, are those


much more structured in how they're set up and
organized?

KO: Yeah. Because we get 48 hours on


official visits and you're able to do a little
bit more. You know, the student -- the
prospective student athlete has a host that we
kind of, you know, coordinate with the host
who's going to be with prospective student
athletes.
So it's a little bit more detailed and we
have an itinerary. Kind of based around his
interest.

RR: Got you. Is there an opportunity


for a PSA coming on either an unofficial or
official to workout with the team or to play
pickup or anything like that?

KO: Yeah. I mean, that's --


sometimes they do on official, sometimes they
don't. But the difference between the two is
you know, we can -- official, we can provide
them with a loop where they can work out in





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UConn issued gear as long as we take that back
and have them sign a letter -- sign a form for
that.
Unofficial, they can't. But most of the
time they do workout with our guys. Big time
prospect student athletes are sometimes too
cool to work out, so they sometimes decide not
to -- not to workout.

RR: Thank you, Coach. Can you walk


me through kind of how that process works with
if a PSA wants to borrow gear on a visit to
workout, how does -- how do they get that and
how is it returned, all that kind of thing?

KO: Yeah. We go through Chris, the


person that issues the gear. They go see
Chris and probably a manager take them down
there. I don't usually be around that time.
So they get the gear. And then after they
finish their workout, they have to go back and
give the gear -- they put it back on the loop.
They give the gear back and a manager usually
takes them back over to see Chris to drop that
off.
Have you been in our facility?

RR: Yes, sir.

KO: It's right outside of the


basketball courts.

RR: Uh-huh.

KO: Right by our locker room.

RR: Got you. And Chris, he's the --


is he the equipment manager?

KO: Equipment manager, that's


correct. Sorry about that.

RR: No. It's okay. I think you said


so is it sometimes the managers that will
check it out and bring it back or who
normally, I guess, would --





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KO: Yeah, mangers. The head guy
that -- you know the head coach. But it's
usually, the manager is around. I don't know,
you know, but it's usually the
managers.

RR: Got you. Just depends?

KO: Yeah, just depends. Yeah. But


we make sure that that gear gets back to its
rightful place.

RR: Okay.

KO: And that's in Chris' hands where


he can wash it and get it prepared.

RR: Get it back on the loop?

KO: Get it back on the loop. I don't


know if somebody else uses it, but that's for
somebody else to decide.

RR: Okay. I think you mentioned


this, Coach, but is there a form that the
recruit or the coach has to sign or something?

KO: Yeah, unofficial and official


visits. We make sure they sign. That stays
up in Larib's office and actually, we got it
kind of around in the locker room, just make
sure that we get that prospective student
athlete to sign.

RR: Okay. And is part of what


they're signing is it that they returned
everything and --

KO: Yes.

RR: Okay. Is there a time on


official and unofficial visits that PSAs
can -- can watch practice or sit in on
practice, that type thing?

KO: Yeah. Certain times, but





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official visits, usually more than an
unofficial visit.

RR: Got you. Does the team have --


and we've seen in the facility, I think
there's a catered meal area?

KO: Yes.

RR: Does the team have catered meal


after practice or --

KO: After practice, generally, yes.

RR: Do prospects, recruits, do they


ever join the team up there for -- for meals
after -- while they're on visits?

KO: Officially, we have them go up


there. That's pretty much set up by Kevin
Freeman.

RR: Okay. Does he set the schedule,


I guess, is that what you're saying?

KO: What's that?

RR: Does Kevin Freeman set the


schedule?

KO: Yeah, the director of basketball


operations. He sets up the schedule.

RR: Okay. But you said that was his


responsibility. I just was making sure -- so
that's kind of what he does; he sets up the
schedule to make sure it's -- for, like, the
official visit; is that what you meant?

KO: Yeah. We have our itinerary and


sometimes that goes -- it depends on if they
want to go back to sleep and then we just
scratch something, but yeah, generally, we
kind of follow that.
But most of the time, it goes off of
script.





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RR: Got you.

KO: So --

RR: Got you. Have you ever seen a


prospect on unofficial go up and eat with the
team?

KO: No.

RR: Do you know, has any other


coaches told you that they've seen that
happen?

KO: No, on an unofficial.

RR: On an unofficial, yes, sir.

KO: No.

RR: Tom, did you have anything?

TH: How about family members of a


prospect on unofficial visits --

KO: Uh-huh.

TH: -- have they ever gone up and


had a meal up there?

KO: Not that I'm aware of.

TH: Okay. I don't have anything


other questions.

RR: Okay. Clint?

CS: Nothing.

RR: Annie? Okay. Mr. Lefft, did you


have any questions.

RL: Yep. When an unofficial come --

KO: Unofficial?




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RL: When an unofficial comes on
campus, what's the procedure in terms of
notifying them as to what they can and cannot
do?

KO: We've already notified them and


we notify them again, you know, what we can't
do and what we can do, so they pretty much
know the procedure.

RL: Okay.

KO: So we always say we can't do that


if that comes up where they ask for a meal or
anything like that. Generally, they know.
But if they do, you know, smell some good food
and ask to go up there, we can't provide that
for them.

RL: What about, is there a form or


anything like that that they have to sign?

TE: Yes.

RL: And what's that form say?

KO: The forms says, you know,


different things. You know, just like the
form that I just signed. That they can't, you
know, do certain things on campus on an
unofficial visit.

RL: Okay.

KO: That we didn't provide more


services than we need to.

RR: I think it's a good time for a


break if that's okay.

RL: Yeah. I just want to --

RR: Okay. So I'll just note the


record that we're taking a break at 12:57 p.m.
Eastern Time.
(A recess was taken.)





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RR: All right. So I'll note that the
interview is continuing at 1:15 p.m. Eastern
Time.
Okay. Coach, wanted to ask you about a
gentleman by the name of -- I think this is
his nickname, it's Munch.

KO: Uh-huh.

RR: But Terrance Williams?

KO: Uh-huh.

RR: Do you know Munch?

KO: Yes.

RR: How do you know Munch?

KO: Met Munch just through recruiting


and him being an AAU coach.

RR: Where is he -- or his AAU team


based out of?

KO: New York.

RR: New York. Do you have some


student athletes that played for Munch?

KO: Yes, I believe,


played for him. And played
for him.

RR: Has Munch come up to check on


and or has he been here on
campus that you recall?

KO: A couple times, yeah.

RR: Has he come to practice or where


have you seen him at?

KO: He might have came to one


practice. Probably came to our office, maybe
two times. But other than that, maybe seen
him at a game here and there, but not a lot.




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RR: Got you. Do you -- does Munch
call you or do y'all talk often or --

KO: Not often. But you know,


periodically, we talk. Especially when I was
recruiting It came
down to us and He decided to go to
so we talked a little bit more then.

RR: Got you. Do you know, has there


ever been a time where the staff took Munch to
dinner or bought Munch a drink just to get to
know him better or anything like that?

KO: Not that I'm aware of.

RR: Have you ever heard that -- or do


you know anything concerning that Munch is
provided anything to encourage his players to
come to UConn?

KO: No. Provided what? Give me an


example.

RR: Okay. Provided anything of value


such as -- has he been provided any cash,
anything of just tangible value or anything
like that?

KO: Not that I'm aware of.

RR: Okay. In regard to AAU coaches


in general --

KO: Uh-huh.

RR: -- has there ever been a point


where you've heard a staff member say that
they took an AAU coach out to dinner or bought
them a drink to get to know them or anything
like that?

KO: Not that I'm aware of. I do


promote them to have relationships with them.
But to the extent of having drinks and all




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that stuff, I don't -- I don't recall. I
don't promote that.

RR: Okay. What do you encourage as


far as, like, relationships?

KO: Encourage them to have a great


relationship with them. You know, understand
the programs, what the kids are about. You
know, scheduling, some -- some of my staff
members might have better relationships with
other AAU programs just because of
relationships and people they know in the
profession.
But of course, that's the only way I would
get a prospective student athlete. You have
to know AAU coaches now, these days.

RR: Because I mean, they're playing


on those teams?

KO: Yes.

RR: Has it ever been said in staff


meeting or ever come up that -- that coaches
here at UConn have provided anything of value
or anything to an AAU coach?

KO: No.

RR: Tom?

TH: Have any of your coaches ever


come to you asking for money to help them
cover some expenses related to taking AAU
coaches out to entertain them?

KO: No.

TH: Okay.

RR: Clint?

CS: No.

RR: Annie? Mr. Lefft?




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RL: No.

RR: No? Okay.

RL: Thank you.

RR: No problem. Coach, I wanted to


ask about a current student athlete,

KO: Yes.

RR: Have you ever heard anything


about that was provided anything of
value to come to UConn?

KO: No.

RR: Has there ever been a rumor


amongst the team or a feeling amongst the team
that was provided anything of value,
cash, or anything of value to come to UConn?

KO: No.

RR: Has there ever -- have you heard


anything about any player on your team being
provided anything to come to UConn?

KO: No.

RR: Okay. Tom?

TH: No.

RR: Clint?

CS: No.

RR: Annie? Mr. Lefft, did you have


anything?

RL: No.

RR: Okay. Coach, we talked about --




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and I think it's -- Coach Chillious, is he
associate head coach or –

KO: He's associate head coach, that's


correct.

RR: How long has he been on staff?

KO: He got here this spring.

RR: Okay. So he's -- this is his


first season?

KO: This is his first season, yes.

RR: Okay. Have you ever heard or


have any knowledge of that Coach Chillious was
expected to use part of his salary to pay
players to come to UConn?

KO: No.

RR: Has -- have you heard any rumor


or anything that someone felt that Coach
Chillious was supposed to use part of his
salary to provide money to players to come to
UConn?
KO: No.

RR: Tom?

TH: Nope.

RR: Clint?

CS: Huh-uh.

RR: Okay. Coach, I'm going to ask --


and I think he's come up before. Former
student athlete,

KO: Yes.

RR: And I think you said was a


?

KO: That's correct. From




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RR: Who was primary
recruiting coach?

KO: Glenn Miller.

RR: Do you know -- do you know when


took his official visit?

KO: I don't recall, but it had to be


after his season because he's -- a
student.

RR: Got you.

KO: After his season at

RR: Okay.

KO: Do you recall ever meeting his


mother on that visit?

KO: Yes.

RR: She was with him for the --

KO: Yeah. I think she was with him


and we went out to , I believe, and
did a home visit, I believe.

RR: So -- and she was living in


at that point?

KO: I believe so, yes.

RR: Do you know, did she move here to


Connecticut?

KO: I believe she moved here to


Connecticut, yes.

RR: Okay. Did -- do y'all also keep


in contact or did y'all build a friendship
during that time?

KO: Just a relationship. We don't




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keep in contact. I keep in contact with

RR: Uh-huh.

KO: But not his mother.

RR: Okay. Do you know during that,


what was the -- I guess the extent of, like,
your interactions with her during when
was here at UConn?

KO: Not a lot. Maybe see her at a


game. She never came to practice or never was
in the basketball office or anything like
that. You know, I just -- if I had a problem
with which I didn't. He graduated with
. I mean he was -- I wish
all of them was like

RR: Yeah.

KO: So I didn't really have a lot of


opportunities to call her because it was -- he
just did his work. He was very professional
with his everyday business.

RR: Okay. Do you know where she


moved to when she moved to Connecticut?

KO: No.

RR: Did -- did you ever have an


opportunity or did you ever meet -- it's our
understanding that she had a roommate when she
first moved here. Did you ever have an
opportunity to meet that roommate or do you
recall?

KO: No.

RR: Okay. Just want to run a couple


of -- the roommate had a couple of different
last names that she went by. If I could just
run a name by you and see if you ever heard
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KO: Uh-huh.

RR: First Karen Sanchez?

KO: No.

RR: Karen Valencia?

KO: No.

RR: Okay. Or Karen Ketano


(phonetic)?

KO: No.

RR: Okay. You don't ever recall


hearing that name or meeting that individual?

KO: No. I don't know who that


individual is.

RR: Okay.

RL: Three different names?

RR: Yes.

RL: Sanchez, Valencia, and Ketano.

RR: Can I (inaudible) that, yeah.

RL: Same person?

RR: Same person, different last


names.

RL: Okay.

RR: Yes. Coach, do you know, did --


did did she go --
it's our understanding that y'all played in
tournament, I think –

KO: Uh-huh.

RR: -- when was a student




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athlete?

KO: Uh-huh.

RR: Do you recall that?

KO: Yes.

RR: Do you ever remember seeing


his mother -- mother
at that tournament?

KO: No.

RR: Okay. Do you -- do you recall,


did travel when the team did; did
she ever come to away games?

KO: I don't recall.

RR: Okay. Tom?

TH: Oh, and mom's full


name -- what's her full name? -- do
you remember her last name?

KO: No. I don't remember her maiden


name.

TH: Okay. Did you ever have occasion


to go to the house that she lived at when she
first moved to the state of Connecticut?

KO: I don't know where she lives, so


no.

TH: Okay. Does -- do you know what


did for a living while she was
living in

KO: No.

TH: Okay.

KO: I don't recall what she did for a


living.





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TH: And do you know what Stephanie
did when she moved to Connecticut?

KO: No.

TH: Do you know what source of


revenue Stephanie had to support herself while
she lived in Connecticut?

KO: No. I guess she had a job or


what she had saved up from . I have
no idea.

TH: Were you ever aware of her


receiving any sort of work related lump sum
place of employments prior to her moving to
Connecticut?

KO: No.

TH: And have you ever provided


any money at any time?

KO: No.

TH: Okay. Have you ever helped


facilitate in any aspect, move to
Connecticut?

KO: No.

TH: And did you ever help facilitate


or arrange any of housing in
Connecticut?

KO: No.

TH: Okay. Did you have any role in


Stephanie's -- I know you -- well, I think
know the answer, but I'll ask the question
anyway. I know you said earlier you did not
know that she was at ,
and you didn't realize she traveled to away
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KO: I don't recall.

TH: Right.

KO: Yeah.

TH: Would you have any role in any of


her travel related expenses?

KO: No.

TH: Okay. Do you know where


and stayed for their
official paid visit; was there a hotel that
she stayed at?

KO: We have a couple of them. Nathan


Hale and then sometimes we have them stay at
the Marriott in downtown. I believe it might
have been Nathan Hale. I'm not for sure.

TH: Okay. Do you recall, when


came on his official visit, did his mother
accompany him?

KO: I believe so. But I'm not for


sure.

TH: Okay.

KO: Because he's a .


He's and he might have came by himself
of himself. But I imagine, Annie, you have
those records, right?

AF: Uh-huh.

KO: So I'm not -- I'm not for sure.

TH: Yeah.

KO: But I know we went back to


and we met them at their home, me
and Glenn.

TH: Was that after the official

 


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visit?

KO: I believe that was after the


official visit, yeah.

TH: Okay. Do you know when


verbally committed to UConn?

KO: No. No, I don't recall that.

TH: I thought I -- and I don't know


if this helps refresh your memory. I thought
I heard a report that he may have verbally
committed while he was on his official visit
to UConn. Does that ring any bells?

KO: No. I just know he committed and


we celebrated.

TH: And would you have had any


occasion to go -- while was on his
official visit -- I think we do have those
records and I think the mom was with him on
his official visit.

KO: Okay.

TH: When was on his official


visit, would you have had any occasion to go
to the hotel where they were staying at for
any reason?

KO: No. I mean, I don't recall. I


mean, I do -- I have, in past, dropped a
prospective student athlete off with their
mother at the hotel.

TH: Okay.

KO: But I don't remember ever doing


that with I don't recall that.

TH: Would you have provided


mother anything while she was on the official
visit other than permissible meals and that
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provided mother a package of any sort
while she was on the official visit?

KO: No.

TH: Okay.

RL: Now, Tom, you've asked that about


1500 different ways. You got 1500 more?

TH: No.

RL: Okay.

TH: I think I'm at the end.

RL: Okay. Great.

TH: I don't think I have any more.

RR: Clint?

CS: Coach, did mom


ever express any concern and reservations
about him becoming a student athlete here at
UConn to you?

KO: Not that I recall.

CS: Do you know if she expressed any


concerns or reservations about him becoming a
student athlete here at UConn to any of your
staff members?

KO: Not that I recall.

CS: Do you know if mother


ever asked any of your staff members for money
or a loan?

KO: Not that I know of.

CS: What about if she asked any of


your staff member's spouses for a money or a
loan?

 


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KO: Not that I know of.

CS: All right. Thanks.

KO: Okay.

RR: Annie, do you have any?

AF: No.

RR: Mr. Lefft, did you have any follow


up?

RL: No.

RR: Coach, I'm going to switch gears


on you here.

KO: Okay.

RR: Go back. And we kind of talked a


little bit about that but --

KO: Okay.

RR: But as far as recruiting --

KO: Okay.

RR: -- how was it kind of divided


amongst the staff? Like, which recruits they
have -- are they assigned to a region; how
does that exactly work?

KO: It's pretty much relationship


based. You know, prospective student athlete,
they might see and have a connection with them
some kind of way. So it's really based off of
that. But I really want to make sure when we
do have a prospective student athlete, that
student athlete understands that we're all
recruiting them.

RR: Uh-huh.

KO: And I want to have an open


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with all our coaches. But it is one point man
that's usually assigned.
Chillious now is pretty much all over the
place because of his time the Washington and
his time, you know, growing up in the Maryland
area. He has been at Villanova, been at prep
school. So he's pretty much -- kind of Ricky
is kind of down south just because he's from
Augusta, Georgia.

RR: Uh-huh.

KO: And DK is kind of the eastern.


He pretty much stays, you know, from New
Jersey all the way down to eastern -- eastern
coast. But it's not -- that's kind of how
it's broken down, but you know, we all have
contacts and networking opportunities when we
try to build and go out to get some of these
recruits.

RR: Okay. So kind of relationship


and background based?

KO: Yeah.

RR: A little of both.

KO: That's pretty much how recruiting


is.

RR: Right.

KO: Unless you're doing something


else.

RR: Got you. Tell me how -- or walk


me through -- because I mean, under the rules,
there's -- is it 130?

KO: 130 recruiting days.

RR: Recruiting days?

KO: Yep.

 


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RR: And then seven opportunities per
student athlete?

KO: Yeah. For contacts and


evaluations.

RR: How does your program keep up


with, like, how many days you have left and
that type of thing?

KO: Yeah, now we do it individually


with coaches now. When Dave Sevush was here,
we did it differently, where he logged in all
of the recruiting evaluations in an app that
we have called JumpForward.

RR: Okay.

KO: Pretty much my time with recruits


are with my coaching staff. I generally --
sometimes I go along, but most of the time
with them and they usually put that in for me
or Larib.

RR: Uh-huh.

TE: We had an incident with Glenn


Miller turning in some of his receipts later.
And that's why we changed our policy so that
eventually won't happen again.
So now we go individually, each coach does
their own. Amanda does a great job coming
over and making sure we're submitting them on
time and in the proper way. And that's how
we're conducting that with the recruiting
days. You know, I know we have -- we save 24
for April. And I think we've got 16 left now.
So we do a good job monitoring that where
we've got 40 days left now.

RR: Okay.

KO: As this day.

RR: Got you. So you said, so it


changed and went to more coaches putting in
their --

 


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KO: Their own. Yeah, so we can log
it and we have it on the board and you know,
we don't have no problems like we had last
year occur.

RR: And is the expectation that you


log, you know, which kid you saw, that type
thing or --

KO: Yes. Kids we saw, the date, just


log it all in. I think that sheet that you
just generated is kind of close to what we log
in.

RR: Okay.

KO: Everybody is able to see with


JumpForward.

RR: Okay. And if you could, take me


back to when -- before the change.

KO: Okay.

RR: Before your change in policy.


What was Dave's role or how did it work with
Dave reporting it?

KO: Dave, I guess, they'll bring it


to Dave, Dave would put it in JumpForward.
The times, the receipts -- actually, the
receipts was given to

RR: Uh-huh.

KO: Who got them reimbursed. And


that's a big important -- these guys want to
get reimbursed.

RR: Right.

KO: Around here, it takes a little


longer than other schools, I think.

RR: Got you.

 


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KO: So they get those receipts in.
We give it to or now. And then
Dave will put it in the logs in JumpForward
about the valuation of contact so we can keep
a good standing log about that and recruiting
days.
Because we don't want to go to a point
where we're eating into our April days, them
24 days we're allotted then.

RR: And -- did you say


currently ?

KO: Yeah.

RR: What is their role on staff?

KO: They get the receipts. They get


it to Moreen, I believe, and it takes about
six months to get it back. Pretty much forget
about you. They owe you something. No, I'm
just -- yeah, yeah.

RR: There's no one from the business


office here, so you're good.

KO: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

RR: No, I guess I should have been --


and , are they graduate assistants
or managers or --

KO: Yeah, was kind of a


graduate assistant. You can help me out. She
was kind of full time. She was kind of, yeah,
like a mix between the two. It was kind of
different, yeah.

RR: Got you. And they just processed


the reimbursement paperwork and that type
thing?

KO: Yeah. Instead of our coaches


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RR: Got you. For -- and I think you
touched on this, Coach, but for your travel
and your trips, do you -- do you log that in
now or how does that work?

KO: I pretty much go with a coach on


my staff.

RR: Okay.

KO: So they usually log it in or


Larib will log it in, my executive assistant.

RR: Got you. Was it ever -- Coach, I


think you mentioned about last year there was
a little -- there was a discrepancy.

KO: It was. A big one.

RR: Was there ever anything that's


been mentioned about -- amongst the coaching
staff that if you go on a local trip, you
don't have to log that because it's -- it's
local; you don't have to worry about that?

KO: No.

RR: Have you ever seen a coach take a


trip and not turn in something or have it
logged?

KO: No. Like I said, I try to hire


people that's trustworthy. That they do their
job. But after they leave me and say they're
going home, I believe they're going home, so
you know, no, I haven't.

RR: Okay. Coach, and this might take


a second because a lot of different documents
here. I just wanted to show you some things.

KO: Okay.

RR: This documentation is just --


really just want your help, kind of an
understanding.





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KO: Okay.

RR: Really is what this is about. So


these -- the first thing here is these are
just the recruiting logs for the department.

RM: Okay.

RR: That y'all log in. That's all


that is.

KO: Okay. In JumpForward?

RR: In JumpForward, yes, sir.

KO: Okay. Okay.

RR: These other things here -- and we


can go through them -- are just public
reports. And by public, I mean, like, 24/7
Sports or tweets from different people.

KO: Okay.

RR: That state that either there was


a coach from UConn who visited a particular
recruit --

KO: Uh-huh.

RR: -- on a certain day or that I


think some of them say Coach Ollie visits da,
da, da recruit. Just kind of want to go
through, see if you recall any of these events
or if you recall who the recruiting coach
would have been for them. Does that make
sense?

KO: That makes perfect sense.

RR: Okay.

KO: Don't believe a lot of tweets,


but go ahead.

RR: Okay. Very good. So first one


I'm going to start, this is -- these are --

 


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RL: Can I ask a question?

RR: Yes.

RL: Because that's a good point. The


tweets are from whom? What's the source?

RR: Yes. It's on here.

TH: It'll be there.

RR: Yeah.

RL: I mean, what I'm saying, is it


from so called scouting services or --

RR: The tweets are mainly from media,


basketball media.

RL: Okay. All right.

TH: This exercise we're about to do,


it may take a little time. And so this is
where I think you're going to be able to help
this because we have the JumpForward
recruiting records.

KO: Uh-huh.

TH: And they reported, you know, the


different recruiting events. And then in some
research of the publicly available social
media --

KO: Yeah.

TH: -- we see some other recruiting


events that don't necessarily make it into the
logs.

KO: Okay.

TH: So this is what the point of the


exercise is. And so obviously, we just want
to try to get your best recollection as to
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KO: Okay. I understand.

TH: -- if you remember.

RR: Okay. First one is -- it's from


this academic year, so 2017, '18. I'll take
them out one at a time and show it to you if
that's okay.

KO: Okay.

RL: Will you pass them over? Can I


look at them first?

RR: Yes. Yes.

TH: And this is -- if you guys need


to take your time, take your time.

RL: All right.

RR: First one is -- it's regarding

KO: Okay.

RR: And the report is just that --


very general, Connecticut Huskies visit
And that's on September 21st, 2017.
And that's just a 24/7 Sports log.

KO: Okay. Okay.

RR: And if you would like, I've got


the recruiting logs here. Each of these
either the particular incidence we're talking
about isn't in the log or it's not in their
for the particular student athlete. So like a
day or an student hasn't been logged for that
particular student athlete.

RM: Okay.

RR: But question --

KO: These things and --




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RR: Uh-huh.

KO: I've had people say I'm at


certain places and I'm not. I say hello to a
student athlete, they say I -- I offered them
a scholarship. So --

RR: Right.

KO: -- I don't put a lot of stock


into this, but we can go through the exercise.
But this has happened a lot of times when I
wasn't even in the gym.

RR: Okay.

KO: And I see a tweet, I'm with my


daughter at her soccer game.

RR: Yep.

KO: So -- but let's go ahead.

RR: Okay. Do you recall, who is


recruiting coach?

KO: Dwayne Killings.

RR: Okay. Do you recall that


specific instance or would that be
something -- do you recall that at all, I
guess is the question?

KO: On this date? No.

RR: Okay.

KO: If it's not in here, I don't


recall it.

RR: That's fine.

KO: Yeah.

RR: Okay. And just for the record,




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that was Document -- Enforcement Document 1.
Sorry.

KO: Okay.

RR: Next one is from this year, '17,


'18 concerning recruit Does that
name ring a bell --

KO: No.

RR: -- and if it doesn't, please


tell me.

KO: No, that name don't even ring a


bell to me.

RR: Okay. That's fine.

RL: What was the first name?

KO:

RL: All right. Okay.

RR: Second is I'm


not sure. But it's N

RL: Okay.

RR: And it's just from October 5th,


2017, Connecticut Huskies visit or
Did you want to see that, Mr. Lefft.

RL: Uh-huh.

KO: I don't even know him.

RL: Okay. And where is this located


supposedly?

RR: I believe that's another 24/7


Sports.

RL: No. Where did they supposedly


visit him?




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RR: That's not mentioned.

RL: Okay. All right.

RR: My question, Coach, you've


already answered it was do you recall that
instance?

KO: I don't even know who that is.

RR: You don't recall that prospect?


Okay.

KO: Yeah, I don't even know who that


is.

RR: Okay. Coach, these are from '16,


'17 academic year.

KO: Okay.

RR: So we'll try to just break it


down by that.

KO: Okay.

RR: First one,

KO: Uh-huh.

RR: Do you recall ? Is he a


recruit of UConn's?

KO: Yes. Uh-huh.

RR: Okay. The report, again, is just


January 28th, 2017. Just says Connecticut
Huskies visits . Do you recall who
coach is?

KO: It was Dwayne or Glenn.

RR: Okay. And this was just


Enforcement Document 3. Mr. Lefft, did you
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RL: Yeah, I would like to see it.

RR: Okay.

RL: Can we get copies of these?

RR: Yes. Tom, did you want to speak


to that?

TH: Yeah, I think so. I was going to


double check that. Because this is publicly
available social media. I just need to double
check with our procedures, but I think that's
possible, yeah.

RL: Yeah, I mean, I've got to find


all these?

TH: No. No. No.

RL: Okay.

RR: Next one, Coach, this concerns


recruit,

KO: Uh-huh.

RR: Is that -- was he a recruit of


UConn's or do you recall that name?

KO: Yes.

RR: Okay. Do you recall who was


Moses' recruiting Coach?

KO: Dwayne Killings.

RR: Dwayne? Okay. And this one is


just logged as , Dwayne
Killings from Connecticut, Huskies visits

And this is Enforcement Document 5.

RL: 24/7 Sports. These guys don't


have anything better to do with their time?




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CS: Can I jump in real fast?

RR: Yeah.

CS: Do you know Corey Evans?

KO: Yes. He's a recruiting


coordinator.

CS: Would he recognize you if you


were at an event?

KO: Yes.

CS: Okay. Thanks.

RR: Coach, do you have any knowledge


of that day, Dwayne Killings visits
on September 22nd? And I know that's
very specific but --

KO: Yeah, no.

RR: Okay.

RL: Twenty-second or 26?

RR: Twenty-second.

RL: Okay. Okay. Coach, there's a


recruit by the name of

KO: That's Dwayne Killings.

RR: Okay. I think you mentioned him


first.

RR: Yes.

RL: You did.

RR: So it'll overlap on the -- I


apologize about that.

KO: No. No. I was just --




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RR: No. We're good.

KO: Yeah. It's been a long meeting


so --

RR: Yep. For this particular


academic year.

KO: Okay.

RR: This one is another one. It's


Enforcement Exhibit 6. January 26th, 2017,
Connecticut Huskies visits

RL: This is exhibit -- what did you


say again?

RR: I'm sorry?

RL: What exhibit was this again?

TH: Six.

RL: Six? Okay.

RR: Six. Okay. Coach, this next one


is PSA Do you recall that
recruit?

KO: No.

RR: Okay.

KO: I mean, I've heard of the name,


but some of these recruits, we didn't go very
long with them at all.

RR: That's okay. Yep. Do you recall


who might have been assigned to or if
he had a recruiting coach specifically?

KO: Might have been DK, but his name


hasn't came up about it.

RR: Okay. That's fine. This was

 


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enforcement -- or is Enforcement Exhibit 7.
It's a tweet from Corey Evans, just said UCLA
and UConn have been in within the past week to
visit -- I'm going to say his last name
wrong --

KO: I don't even know.

RR: Oh, okay.

KO: Yeah.

RR: And

KO: Okay.

RR: Okay.

RL: What I don't understand is


sometimes they've got a coach's name and then
one where they just said the school. Like,
Minnesota or whatever, but they don't mention
who the coach was.

TH: Yeah, some of them don't. You're


right.

RL: Right. I mean, it's inconsistent


even within the document itself. Okay.
Great.

RR: Okay. This one, Coach, concerns


. Again, this is a 24/7 Sports.
This one was November 29th, 2016. Make sure I
have that right. Excuse me, September 22nd,
2016. And it lists that -- it says Kevin
Ollie, from Connecticut Huskies, visits

CS: That's November 29th.

RR: Yeah. This is --

RL: What's the Bates number on that?

RR: This is Document 9. Sorry.





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TH: Do you remember visiting
that day?

KO: No.

TH: Is it possible you did, just


don't recall it or --

KO: I mean, I'm not going to believe


that. If it's not in here -- and most of the
time I'm going to put my hours and they would
recognize a head coach and so I wouldn't just
go there and not put it in if that's what
y'all are implying -- or anybody implying.

TH: No -- and no one. And maybe I'll


ask a general question.

KO: Okay.

TH: Is there any chance that Dave


didn't always report them for whatever reason,
accidentally, inadvertently, or purposefully?
I mean, is there any --

KO: There's always human error.

TH: Right.

KO: But --

TH: And that's what we're trying to


figure out.

KO: Yeah. There's always human


error, but I -- I'm just saying when I go, I
mean, it's -- if we're trying to do anything
like that, that would be stupid, you know.

TH: Yeah.

KO: Because they're going to all


recognize me.

TH: Right.

 


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KO: I'm the head coach.

TH: Right.

KO: So --

TH: Yeah. That's what we figured.


There could be an innocent explanations for
these things.

KO: Yeah.

TH: I mean, obviously, someone is


reporting seeing you on September 22nd and
that same day they see Tom Crean also visiting
Do you remember seeing Coach Crean
at all -- does that help jog your memory at
all?

KO: No.

TH: Is it not uncommon for head


coaches to visit high schools even the same
day to visit a prospect?

KO: With different high -- different


head coaches?

TH: Right.

KO: I mean, yeah, if their schedules


coincide.

TH: Yeah.

KO: I mean, we don't have a lot of


days.

TH: Yeah.

KO: You know, so we've got to get out


and see the prospects when we can.

TH: Yeah.

 


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KO: So --

TH: And we get there could be a lot


of different reasons why a visit may occur,
but it doesn't necessarily end up in
JumpForward. I mean, and that's all we're
trying to get to is to try to understand, is
it possible Dave made a mistake or didn't
always record things or is it possible coaches
didn't always turn in their information to
Dave. And that's what we're --

KO: Yeah. I just don't see why


Coach -- I mean, because you've got to get
reimbursed.

TH: Yeah.

KO: And that wouldn't make sense. I


want to get your money back.

TH: Right.

KO: So --

TH: Would you have filed -- if, in


fact, you had gone to would you have
filed an expense report for that visit?

KO: Yeah. Larib would have did it


with the miles and -- I don't know how she
computes it. Gets all that. But it's the
mile driving there and I do get reimbursed for
that.

TH: Even for something as close as


Putnam Science, you would have still submitted
a reimbursement request?

KO: Yeah. She would have did it with


the miles.

TH: Okay.

KO: Yeah.




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TH: All right. And what we're trying
to do is we're trying to see if we can --
based on these and your recollection, see if
we can understand it. I mean, we can cross
check against expense reports and you know, we
can even go talk to the different people that
report seeing you.
But that's what we're just trying to make
sure we understand what, if anything, may have
happened.

KO: Yeah. That's -- that's what I


think.

TH: Okay.

KO: That was just human error.

TH: If there was a discrepancy,


you're thinking it's just human error?

KO: I mean, yeah, because I'm going


to -- I run a clean program. I want our -- I
want us to turn in our recruiting days.

TH: Right. And that's the intent.

KO: Yeah.

TH: I get that from your information


that you're telling us is that your intent was
to record all of these recruiting days.

KO: Yes.

TH: From your -- as -- from where you


sat as a head coach supervising Dave, was it
your understanding that it was his intent to
also record those as accurately as he could?

KO: Yes. And that -- that -- if


that's what you -- that's how we was doing it
before, make sure, coaches, you go and turn
your receipts in, turn your call logs in, and
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TH: Right. Was there ever a
situation that Dave ever purposefully didn't
record recruiting days?

KO: No.

TH: Okay.

KO: Not that I'm aware of.

TH: Okay. And so -- all right. So I


think I understand then. All right. I think
this is a good exercise, if you don't mind,
just kind of walk -- we just have a number of
more that we'd like to just show you.

KO: Okay.

TH: But it's very helpful to us. You


know, we can try to sort through this on the
back end --

KO: Okay.

TH: -- to try to figure out if, in


fact, it was a discrepancy, what I’m hearing you
say, it has to be due to human error, not
intent?

KO: Yes.

TH: Right? Okay. That's very


helpful.

KO: Okay. Thank you. Thank you.

RR: Okay. This one here, this is


another with . It's Enforcement
Document 10. It's a tweet from Adam
Finkelstein. And it just states that UConn
head coach, Kevin Ollie, is watching unsigned
ESPN100 tonight. And that's
from November 29th, 2016.

RL: He's watching or he's watching --


or he's --




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RR: It says is watching. I'm not --

TH: Do you know Adam Finkelstein?

KO: Yeah, I know of him. Yes.

TH: And he knows -- he would know who


you were on sight?

KO: Yeah, pretty much.

RL: I mean, you assume.

KO: Not saying I'm a big shot or


anything, yeah, but --

RL: I mean, you assume but -- and


which one is it? I'm missing that. Where is
it?

RR: I'm sorry, it's the top tweet.

TH: The very, very top.

RL: Okay.

RR: Coach, do you recall that at all?

KO: No.

RR: Is that a no, Coach?

KO: No.

RR: Okay.

KO: I don't recall that.

RL: I guess what I'm struggling a


little bit with is other than what Glenn
Miller has done, there -- there's not any
indication from compliance that there's been
a -- a pattern here of these coaches -- of
Coach Ollie and his staff not -- not putting
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And so I guess I'm struggling a little bit
with how you guys are relying on tweets from a
third party, many of whom have their own
agendas, to establish whether or not these
coaches were actually out or not out.
You know, I'm just -- I'm just struggling
with that. I mean, I know -- I don't know,
maybe that's the method that you've all been
using but --

TH: The key word that you just used,


relying, I wouldn't agree with it. I don't
think there's any representation here that
we're relying upon this in any capacity to
prove anything.
It's more designed to try to refresh his
memory to see if he recalls these events to
help us understand something that's out there
in the social media.

RL: Well, I guess -- I mean, we can


continue to go through this exercise, but he's
told you that it is his practice --

TH: Uh-huh.

RL: -- and I don't think there's any


indication otherwise. It is his practice that
when he goes out -- because he knows as a head
coach, as Kevin Ollie, who is not just a
coach; he's a national championship coach.

TH: Uh-huh.

KO: He's a professional NBA player.

TH: Uh-huh.

KO: He's a legend at UConn.

TH: Uh-huh.

KO: You know, this is not some


nondescript guy showing in a gym with a UConn
shirt on. And he's telling you that his
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information to the appropriate person to put
it into the system.
Now, can we say that maybe, perhaps,
somebody made a mistake or perhaps there might
have been a technical error. But I just don't
see the utility of continuing to go through
this particular exercise. I mean, unless
there's something that you all know or that
you want to just ask him directly, I don't
understand why we're going through this
exercise.
And I'm not trying to -- I'm not trying to
in any way -- I want to make sure here, to all
of you, I'm not trying to interfere. I'm just
not seeing the utility of it.

CS: I will say, this has been helpful


already because we've got a couple names that
he did not recognize that we didn't recruit,
so that takes those people off the radar
entirely that we don't have to continue to
look into their information.
So it is helpful at this point.

RL: Okay. I will accept that. Okay.


I just want to note my objection and my
concern.

TH: Duly noted. It's on the record.


And Coach, we appreciate your patience and
working through with this, on this.

KO: No problem. I've been practicing


patience two seasons now.

RR: Okay. Coach, did -- just want


to -- recruit Apologize if I just
asked about that name. Do you recall that
name at all?

RL: No, you didn't --

KO: Yeah, I recognize

RR: You recognize Do you


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KO: Dwayne Killings.

RR: This is marked as Enforcement


Exhibit 11. Again, it's 24/7 Sports. The
report is from February the 24th, 2017. Just
states that Connecticut Huskies visits

Mr., Lefft did you want to see that?

RL: Yeah. Thank you.

RR: Along with that, I'm sorry, is


Enforcement Exhibit 12. This is a tweet from
Adam Finkelstein. It states that UConn,
Providence, and Syracuse are watching
and go head to head tonight.
And that's from February 24th, 2017.

RL: That's the same -- same evening?

RR: Same -- yes.

RL: Same location?

RR: We're referring to the same


evening, same time period.

RL: Uh-huh. Okay.

RR: Do you recall anything about


that, Coach?

KO: No, I don't recall anything about


that.

TH: Do you recall recruiting


and visiting him to watch him play games?

KO: Yeah. Yeah. We went to go see


him.

TH: Okay.

KO: I believe I went to go see him.

 


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TH: And let me ask another general
question.

KO: Okay.

TH: You alluded to this earlier, but


the different thing that is Russell is showing
you come from different recruiting services
and recruiting analysts. And you've told
us -- and I think your counsel has also said
this, that there's a degree of reliability
where there's times when they've made
mistakes, where they've reported you being
somewhere --

KO: A lot. A lot.

TH: Yeah. And that was my next


question. Do they ever get it right? Do they
ever actually, accurately report things?

KO: Of course. Yeah.

TH: Okay. And that's kind of the


impression we have as well because --

KO: Yeah, of course. Yeah.

TH: Some of these descriptions are


quite specific and there's, you know, two
different recruiting services are reporting
seeing a UConn coach on February 24, 2017.
And so that's kind of where we kind of have
the same understanding that there may be
occasions when they get it right, and there
may be occasions when they get it wrong.

KO: Yeah.

TH: And that's --

KO: Yeah. It's a lot of times they


get it wrong; a lot of times they get it
wrong.

TH: And why do they do this? What's





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the reason for them to be publishing?

KO: Because the more times you get


hits, the more times you get likes --

TH: Uh-huh.

KO: -- some of these guys have went


on Sports Center. Jeff Goodmans of the world.
Started recruiting and now he's on Sports
Center. Going to -- inaudible -- fall on the
ball brothers.

TH: Right.

KO: So it's just can I build my


brand. The more times I say UConn. The more
times they come on my Twitter page, my
Instagram page, the more likes I get in this
social media driven word.

RR: Yeah.

RL: Well, you know, the other part, I


guess the concern I've got -- and again, you
can go on -- it takes -- you can take your
iPad, your iPhone, your smart phone. You can
Google, UConn coaching staff and you can
identify specifically the coach who was there,
so why are they putting UConn in some
instances and then putting the specific coach
from another institution. It's inconsistent.
So what's the level of reliability that you
can place on this regardless.

TH: Uh-huh.

RL: Is my point.

TH: Uh-huh. That's a good question.


That's a fair question.

RL: Right. And if the two -- the two


services are saying UConn and one of them is
not saying a specific coach, then it could
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a UConn shirt on.

TH: Uh-huh.

RL: I'm just asking. I mean, it


could -- that is as plausible an explanation
as any.

TH: That's fair. That's fair.

CS: Coach, do you recall -- to help


us with that, do you recall a specific
instance -- I don't know if your daughter had,
like, a graduation or some specific event
where you remember somebody showing you so
that we can go find to demonstrate that fact
where you remember somebody says you're
somewhere when you're clearly were not?

KO: Yeah. I can't make that -- show


you that.

CS: Okay.

KO: But it's been instances, I can --


that we --

CS: You just remember generally?

KO: Yeah.

CS: Okay.

KO: But it's a lot of times where you


don't offer a kid and they say we offered.
And we're like we didn't offer this kid.
It's -- I can go through countless of times
it's happened on social media and sometimes
I'm not even in the gym and they say Coach
Kevin Ollie is in the gym or somebody that
looks like me I guess.

RL: There's a lot of good looking


guys out there. What's next?

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you've already answered this one, but just
wanted to run it by you. So this is -- I
mispronounced his name before and I'm going to
mispronounce it now. or --
I'm not going to try.

KO: Don't try.

RR: Have you heard that name before?

KO: No.

RR: Okay. Was that a recruit of


UConn?

KO: Some of the recruits don't even


get to -- get to me, so I can't say. I mean,
maybe DK had a contact with him. I'm not for
sure.

RR: I understand.

KO: Or somebody on our staff.

RR: Okay. And this is Enforcement


Document 7. This is a tweet, I think before
we mentioned , but it also
mentions

KO: Okay.

RR: Mr. Lefft, did you want to see


that one?

RL: What's the date on that again?


I'm sorry.

RR: Oh, no problem. It is


December 15th, 2016. This one is in regards
to .

KO: Okay.

RR: Was he a recruit at UConn?

KO: Yes.




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RR: Okay. Do you remember who his --

KO: Dwayne Killings.

RR: Dwayne Killings. Okay.

KO: I'm kind of getting --

RR: This is from February 24th, 2017.


It says Connecticut Huskies visits AJ Reeves.
This is Enforcement Document 15.

RL: Did you want him to take a look


at that?

RR: Do you recall that instance at


all, Coach?

KO: No, I don't.

RR: Okay. Next, Nate Roberts.

KO: Yes, we didn't even --

RR: He's a recruit?

KO: He didn't even -- no. But okay.

RR: Who was his recruiting coach?

KO: Dwayne, I believe, yeah. But we


have never offered this guy, no. Yeah.

RR: This is Enforcement Document 16.


Reports from November 9th, 2016. Connecticut
Huskies visits Nate Roberts.

KO: Yeah.

RL: So he didn't officially visit and


you guys offered him?

KO: What's that? No, we never


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RL: October 15th, Connecticut Huskies
offer; October 14th, unofficially visits.

TH: Do you recall Nate Roberts


unofficially visiting UConn?

KO: I don't -- I don't recall. He


might have came up for First Night or
something like that, but I don't recall. A
lot of the kids come up for First Night and
all that stuff. I don't remember a lot of
them.
That's what I mean, we never offered him a
scholarship or anything like that. I'm
wondering why these don't have our logo. Our
Husky dog on it. It's got a C on it, which
ain't our logo. They need to start changing
their logo. These all look nice. They've got
the cardinal on there and everything.

RR: North Western's got the N.

KO: We've got to have a Husky dog.


That's the old logo.

RR: These next two refer to Simi


Shittu (phonetic).

KO: Shittu.

RR: Okay. It's Enforcement Documents


18 and 17. The first one is from
November 9th, 2016. It says Connecticut
Huskies visits Simi and then the second one is
from January the 15th, 2017. Connecticut
Huskies visits Simi. I'll hand them all at
one time.

RL: Do you recall?

KO: No, I don't recall. Yeah, sorry


about that.

RR: The next one is David Singleton.


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KO: Yeah. I don't what you -- yeah.

RR: Okay.

KO: We never --

RR: It's Enforcement Documents 19,


20, -- 19 and 20, excuse me. They both refer
to January the 16th, 2017. This one says that
Kevin Ollie from Connecticut visits David
Singleton and the other is a tweet from Corey
Evans, Kevin Ollie, Arizona, Arizona State,
and Washington among those on hand for four
star guard, David Singleton.

KO: Where is David -- that's


California? Where is David Singleton?
California?

RR: I'm not sure.

KO: That's -- Okay. I mean, I think


he's from California.

RR: Okay.

KO: Like, I'm definitely -- that's


human error. That's what I'm trying to allude
to.

RR: Okay.

HG: Human error that you never went


to evaluate him in California or you went to
California and turned that in and Dave just
dropped the ball?

KO: Yeah. Yeah. I don't know --


yeah, I don't know. But I'm just saying,
like, that's in California. Like, I had to be
there or if I didn't be there -- if I didn't,
that was human error; you see what I'm saying?

HG: I'm confused. Are you saying you


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KO: No, I don't remember going to see
him, but if I did go and see him, I'm going to
get reimbursed for that trip.

CS: Last January, do you recall


taking any trips to California?

KO: Last January? I mean, I don't


remember. But I've been to California. But I
don't know when -- if it was January or not,
yeah. You can rejog my memory going back in
there. But last January, that could have been
a possibility.

CS: Who did they play in between --

AF: It's Georgetown.

CS: Georgetown in DC and then --

AF: -- SNU.

CS: -- SNU. So that would have been


between the Georgetown game that took place in
Washington, DC. And then the SNU game that
took place in Dallas. Do you recall going to
California in between those two events?

KO: No. Unless you see it in there.


I mean, I don't remember that. That's a -- I
think we maybe had a weekend between. Did we
have a weekend between those two games?

AF: It was Saturday to Wednesday.

KO: No way. Yeah, that's -- I don't


recall that.

AF: So that wouldn't be common that


you would go -- you would have a Saturday
game, go recruiting on the west coast, and
then go to a Texas game? Like, what's your
normal --

KO: No. That's really -- I usually


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AF: Not so much during the season?

KO: Not much mid-season unless it's


just something that happens. Like, I rarely
go out during the season because I just can't
afford it, you know, with the time and me
being here at practice. Now, some of my
assistants can go because they're not -- I can
conduct practice.
I need to conduct my practice.

TH: If you look at Enforcement 20, it


indicates, according to Corey Evans, that you
along with apparently coaches from Arizona,
Arizona State, and Washington were on hand to
watch on January 16.
Does that refresh your memory at all as far
as Arizona coaches, Arizona State, and
Washington coaches being at an event where you
were also there?

KO: No.

TH: Okay.

RR: Yes.

TH: Can we take a short break? Like,


just a three minute break. I need to talk
with my colleague real quick.

RL: Okay.

RR: Okay. Just noting for the record


that we are pausing for a quick break at
2:18 p.m. Eastern Time.
(A recess was taken.)

RR: Okay. I'll just note for the


record that we're resuming at 2:31 p.m.
Eastern Time.

TH: And I told Ricky and coach this


off the record, but I'll say it again on the
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because you were able to answer a number of
our questions generally. And we appreciate
that.
And so -- and you helped us walk through a
number of records for at least one academic
year, and I don't think there's any reason to keep
going on this. And so we appreciate your
helping us work through this issue.

KO: No problem.

TH: So we'll go ahead and stop this


particular exercise and I think we'll just
move to final questions, if that's okay.

CS: Let me ask him one question just


so we understand as we get into those records.
Coach, you may made mention of it earlier
that -- is it normally -- do you recruit alone
a lot, or are you typically going with
somebody -- another staff member?

KO: I typically go with another staff


member.

CS: Do you have a feel for sort of


how often you would be out by yourself, if at
all?

KO: Not really. Yeah, three, four


times. I mean --

CS: Every other time, you're


typically riding or flying with somebody?

KO: Riding with someone, flying with


someone, yeah.

CS: Thanks.

TH: And before I completely close it,


if for some reason, we need your help, we will
work through Annie and these guys to see if
there's any clarification on anything else.

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TH: But for now, I think you've
helped us in answering our general questions.

KO: Okay. Thank you.

TH: Uh-huh. Okay.

RR: Okay. Just want to ask -- I


think you've already touched on this a bit.
How do you promote compliance in your program?

KO: Just every day. Talk about it,


rules of education. Making sure my coaches
are understanding the interpretation of a
rule. If there's a changes of rules. Making
sure we get with Eric Snyder that's been doing
a great job, Annie doing a great job.
Every month, we sit down and we talk about
different rule changes and what we can do to,
you know, protect our student athletes and
potential student athletes when they're here
at the University of Connecticut. And protect
our university and also protect our
livelihood.
So it's wrapped around all that. And I
just want to make sure those guys are
compliant. We're promoting an atmosphere of
compliance in every -- in every area that we
touch. And when something does come up and we
do not know, make sure we go over to Annie and
get the right interpretation so we have a very
transparent relationship between our
basketball program and athletic department and
the NCAA.

RR: Okay. And the other part of


that, Coach, how do you monitor compliance in
your program?

KO: Like I said, we talk about it.


We monitor it, you know, each and every time
we're out, making sure we're following the
rules.
You know, we're having rules education,
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times. Making sure we have our right logs in.
We're going over and we're double checking it.
Crossing all our Is and and -- dotting all our
Is and crossing all the Ts. And you know,
making sure we have open conversations with
our athletic department.
And I think that's what we do most of it
where we have the rules and education that
we're signing up. And if a coach is out recruiting
sure we have follow up on that -- that rule or
anything that comes up that might -- an
interpretation might be taken the wrong way.
So I just really want to promote that. We
have general talks when we're together as a
coaching staff, not just in our meetings.
When we're out and about. When we're at
hotels. We're just always trying to have an
atmosphere of compliance.
And if anything comes up, we want to make
sure we talk about it and get the right
ruling -- the right guidance, right
legislation and make sure we're doing the
right things here at the University of
Connecticut.

RR: Okay. Tom?

TH: Yeah. Just one question. And


you may not have, but I was just curious.
During the time that you've been the head
coach, have you ever discovered a violation
and reported it to compliance?

KO: I don't -- I don't think so.

TH: That's fine.

KO: Yeah. Annie, you might --

AF: I'd have to look back and some of


our violations, but --

KO: Yeah.

AF: -- nothing has come in. I mean,


I know we've reported, obviously, violations

 


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in the sport of men's basketball, but the
source of it, I'd have to double check.

TH: All right. Thanks. That's all


I've got.

RR: Clint?

CS: No.

RR: Annie?

AF: Nothing, thanks.

RR: Mr. Lefft?

RL: Coach, when you're -- but you're


following up with your coaches when you ask
them to get an interpretation or when there's a
problem, you're telling them to go to see
Annie in compliance?

KO: See Annie immediately.

RL: And when they come back, are you


determining what they learned and making sure
that they're applying it?

KO: Yeah. What they learned and then


I might even have a follow up meeting with
Annie myself and make sure they talked or
email exchange or anything like that. And
just making sure we have thorough follow up on
that.

RL: Okay.

KO: But they've been doing a great


job. I just want to commend. You know, it's
definitely changed since eight years ago. I
appreciate that.

AF: No problem.

RR: All right. Coach, other than


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anybody about today's interview?

KO: No, I haven't.

RR: Other than your attorney and


Annie, has anybody reached out to you to talk
about your interview with the NCAA today?

KO: No.

RR: Okay.

TH: I have one question. Have you


had occasion to talk to your student athletes
who were scheduled to be interviewed by us?
Have you talked to any of your student
athletes scheduled to interview with us about
this interview?

KO: No. We talked about them having


general counsel.

TH: Okay.

KO: And their -- their rights to have


general counsel. And that's how far it went.

TH: Did you ever have any student


athletes come into your office and ask them a
question regarding their NCAA interview that
was scheduled, do I have anything to be
worried about?

KO: No.

TH: Okay. Did -- did you have


meeting with -- I think, was it
before his interview with us at all in
your office?

KO: Yeah. We talked about the game.

TH: Okay.

KO: Yeah.




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TH: Did you talk about --

KO: We talked about he had a


different lawyer that he was -- that he
brought.

TH: Okay. Did you -- did you ask him


a question, you know -- does he go by or

KO:

TH: Okay.

KO: sometimes, which is a


little irrelevant.

TH: Did you ask him anything along


the lines of, you know, CV, do I have anything
to be worried about and his response being,
Coach, there's nothing to be worried about?

KO: No. I mean --

TH: Okay.

KO: I just don't want no -- you know,


no. Just don't want no surprises.

TH: Has Dave Sevush called you or


your staff to talk with you about the NCAA
investigation?

KO: I'm not aware of that.

TH: Okay. Has Dave been trying to


reach out to any of your staff?

KO: I'm not aware of that.

TH: Okay. Have you reached out to


Dave to talk to about the NCAA investigation?

KO: No.

TH: Okay.




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RR: Clint, did you have anything
further?

CS: Huh-uh.

RR: Annie?

AF: Nothing further here.

RR: Mr. Lefft, anything further?

RL: Nope.

RR: Okay. Coach, I want to thank you


for your time today. I know I've taken a lot
of it, so I appreciate you being here. You've
been very helpful. I really appreciate that.
Last thing is just to go over
confidentiality and then you'll be done.
Before I do that, is there anything you want
to add or clarify to what we've talked about
today?

KO: No. I just think common


denominator with all -- some of these
questions or allegations is a disgruntled
ex-employee. And that should be clarified. I
think that's where all of this is deriving
from.
And it's unfair, but I'll hopefully, at the
end of the day, my name will be clear because
it has been smeared on Sports Center and
different things like that and I hold my name
up very, very high and built my career on
protecting my name and who I am. And this has
been very hurtful to me.

RR: Coach, the last thing I need to


talk about is to let you know that NCAA
legislation requires that you help protect the
integrity of this investigation. Therefore,
as the investigation continues, we ask that
you're not permitted to speak with others
about what we discussed today or any
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except that you may be speak with personal
legal counsel and others present in the room.

KO: Okay.

RR: Failure to protect the integrity


of this investigation could result in an
allegation that you violated the principles of
ethical conduct and/or the cooperative
principle. So do you understand those
statements, Coach?

KO: Yes.

RR: At some point after the NCAA


completes its investigation, someone else
involved as a party in this case or their
attorney, legal counsel, or representative may
request to interview you about matters related
to this case. We encourage you to agree to
speak with them just as you've agreed to speak
with us. This doesn't, however, include any
representatives of the media. So we ask that
you don't speak to media.
If you do have any questions about who you
can or cannot talk to, please reach out to
counsel or reach out to us. I mean, he can
reach out to us. We're happy to help you with
that, okay?
Do you have any final questions for me,
sir?

KO: No. Just how did the media know


that we was getting investigated?

RR: I'm not aware.

KO: Yeah. That's the problem.

RR: We take confidentiality very


seriously, so other than that, do you have any
final questions for me, sir?

KO: No.

RR: Okay. Then I'll note for the




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record that this interview concluded at
2:41 p.m. Eastern Time. Thank you, Coach.

KO: Thank you.

-- END OF AUDIO --




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INTERVIEW OF LARIB OMARA-OTUNNU
UNIVERSITY OF CONNECTICUT
FEBRUARY 27, 2018

RR: -- it's 4 o'clock p.m. Eastern


Time on Tuesday, February 27th, 2018, and I'm
currently at the University of Connecticut. And for
the purpose of voice identification, I would like to
ask each person in the room to state their name and
title. And, Larib, we'll start with you.

LO: Larib Omara-Otunnu, assistant to


the head coach.

PW: Patti Williams, field


representative UCPEA, AFT.

CS: Clint Speegle, outside counsel,


University of Connecticut.

HG: Henry Gimenez, outside counsel


for UConn.

AF: Annie Fiorvanti, associate AD for


compliance at UConn.

TH: Tom Hosty, I'm an NCAA director


of enforcement.

RR: And I'm Russell Register, one of


our assistant directors of enforcement with the NCAA.
And I would like to note that before
we have went on the record, we asked Larib if it was
okay to record, and you said it was; is that correct,
Larib?

LO: Correct.

RR: Okay. And also want to note on


the record that Larib is recording today's interview,
but we have a verbal agreement that she keep that
recording confidential pursuant to Division I Bylaw
19.5.8, and that she agrees not to share that
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LO: Correct.

RR: Okay. Perfect. And we also have


a standing agreement with the institution that they
keep their recording confidential and not to share it
with third parties; is that correct?

CS: Correct.

RR: Awesome. Okay. So also prior to


going on the record, you received a form entitled the
NCAA interview notice form. Did you have a chance to
read that form?

LO: Yes.

RR: Okay. Do you understand that the


purpose of this interview is to determine whether you
have any knowledge of or involvement in any
violations of NCAA legislation?

LO: Yep.

RR: Is that a yes?

LO: Yes.

RR: Sorry. Thanks. We have to be


very -- for recording and everything.
Do you understand that you may be
represented by personal legal counsel during this
interview?

LO: Yes.

RR: Okay. Do you understand that


NCAA Bylaw 10.1 obligates you to provide truthful and
complete information in this interview?

LO: Yes.

RR: Do you understand that if it is


ever determined that you've provided false or
misleading information or withheld information in
this interview, then this could constitute a
violation of the NCAA principles of ethical conduct




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and could impact your athletic-related duties as a
staff member at an NCAA institution?

LO: Yes.

RR: Do you understand the information


provided during this interview may be shared with
other NCAA departments?

LO: Yes.

RR: Okay. Do you have any questions


regarding any part of the interview notice form?

LO: No.

RR: Okay. And did you sign and date


that form?

LO: Yes.

RR: Okay. Awesome. Thanks for


bearing with me. I know it's kind of a repeat of
what you just read, but just wanted to get that on
the record.
So just to start out, Larib, what is a
good phone number to contact you at?

LO: .

RR: And what's a good e-mail address


for you?

LO: LOOTUNNU@UCONN.EDU.

RR: Awesome. And if you could,


Larib, just give us -- what is your work history
background? Kind of where have you worked before,
what did you do, and then kind of when did you come
to UConn and start here.

LO: Well I worked -- I worked as a


student manager and student worker in men's
basketball from '04 to '09, and then I worked at
Saint Francis hospital in development for three
years, and then I worked at Centerplan Construction




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and Real Estate Development for a year, and then I
came here about five years ago.

RR: Okay. So what year was that that


you started here?

LO: 2013.

RR: 2013. And so what is your


current position?

LO: Assistant to the head coach.

RR: Is that what you came in as in


2013?

LO: Came in as a program aide.

RR: Okay. And so when did it make


that transition to -- to your current position?

LO: 2015, I believe.

RR: Okay. So before that, were your


duties a lot different, or --

LO: They were similar, as it relates


to the program overall, but less focused on head
coach -- supporting the head coach directly.

RR: Who did you report to then?

LO: Direct report has always been


Coach Ollie. But I worked more in that role with the
assistant coaches. And then throughout my time here,
I've worked with the players and their families
consistently in both roles.

RR: Okay. So if you could, just kind


of elaborate on what are your current
responsibilities?

LO: Well, like office management,


overseeing our student workers, work on tickets, kind
of manage our allotment of tickets when we're on the
road. I distribute the tickets, work with our




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players and coaches making sure they get it -- you
know, everything into JumpForward and approved by
compliance. And general administrative
responsibilities for coach, drafting correspondence,
phone calls, scheduling, booking travel.

RR: Got you.

LO: Those sort of things.

RR: Got you. Yeah.

LO: Kind of support the assistant


coaches a bit too because we don't have anyone else
in that role currently. And then I work with the
players kind of as a -- kind of a go-between between
them and different departments, whether it's like
compliance or like student health services, you know,
making sure they have all of their forms completed
and, you know, kind of any off-court questions that
they or their families have.

RR: Got you. Yeah, that's a lot. So


keeps you busy, I'm sure.

LO: To say the least.

RR: Got you. So, Larib, wanted to


transition into -- I think you talked a little bit
about recruiting logs and reporting recruiting stuff.

LO: Uh-huh.

RR: Is that -- is that one of your


responsibilities, or --

LO: I schedule the travel for coach


for recruiting. I don't generally enter the logs
into JumpForward.

RR: Okay. Got you. How does that


work?

LO: Well, we used to have our former


video/scouting director, he -- he would put the days
into JumpForward.




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RR: Was that Dave Sevush?

LO: Yes.

RR: So what would coaches do to


report recruiting?

LO: Well, I mean, they all meet on a


daily basis as a coaching staff, meetings that Dave
would be a part of as well, so, you know, he knew the
schedule and who was going where. And that was kind
of the person who would communicate to me, you know,
coach needs to get this place on this day, whatever.
So he would keep track of -- you know, he would know
who -- who they're going to see and when.

RR: So you would help them schedule


like transportation, different things that they
needed?

LO: Yes, yep.

RR: And then once they got back, did


you have any role in like reimbursements or how those
were processed?

LO: Yes.

RR: So how -- how did that work?

LO: Give me -- give me their


receipts, and I would submit them through our travel
-- travel forms, our business office.

RR: Okay. Did they have something


that they had to submit to Dave as far as -- that he
had to put in the computer system? Is that something
that you were saying earlier, or --

LO: Yeah, I mean, in terms of keeping


track of who went where, obviously we used
JumpForward to keep track of that.

RR: Uh-huh.




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LO: And that's -- Dave would enter
those days, like I said --

RR: Okay.

LO: -- into JumpForward. They do


have -- they did have like a form that they had --
that the coaches would fill out -- not the whole
time, developed it maybe a few years ago just to say
who they went to see, where they went to see them,
and on what date.

RR: And then would the coach give you


like all of their receipts, things like that that you
said?

LO: Yes. Like I said, they would


give me the receipts to get them reimbursed.

RR: Okay. And so there was just an


institutional process that you had to do to --

LO: Yeah.

RR: -- submit those?

LO: Uh-huh.

RR: Would coaches -- if they had


local travel, would they submit for reimbursement for
mileage or stuff like that?

LO: Yes.

RR: Do you know if -- for local trips


if they always submitted something to Dave to input
into the system?

LO: To my knowledge, yes.

RR: Okay. Did you ever have any


responsibilities over doing that portion that Dave
was responsible for, as far as entering things into
JumpForward?

LO: No, not until recently, since




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he's been gone. If the head -- if the assistant
coaches -- generally coach will go with an assistant
when he goes recruiting, so when they put their day
into JumpForward, they'll tag him in it.
Occasionally if they don't, if he goes on a trip by
himself, which is rare, then I will put that into
JumpForward, but that's just as of the last couple of
months.

RR: So are coaches responsible for


kind of logging their own recruiting stuff into
JumpForward now?

LO: Yes, as of -- yeah.

RR: Since Dave left?

LO: Since Dave left, yes.

RR: And by stuff -- I should be more


clear on the record myself. By stuff, I mean their
contacts, evaluations?

LO: Yes.

RR: Okay. Does Coach Ollie, if he


goes -- I know that you just said it's rare that he
goes by himself on trips.

LO: Uh-huh.

RR: Does he give you one of those


slips to be able to log it into JumpForward, or how
do you know what to put in there?

LO: Talk to -- I talk to the


assistant coaches -- I mean, I know -- obviously, if
I'm booking his travel, I know where he's going, so
--

RR: Got you.

LO: If I have to give him directions


to get to the school, then, obviously, I know what
school he was at.





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RR: Do you know what prospects he was
seeing and that type of thing?

LO: Yep, generally I'll -- that's


something I'll ask the assistant coaches to confirm.

RR: To know what to put in, as far as


like JumpForward --

LO: Uh-huh.

RR: Was there anything that was ever


said, you know -- and going back -- and this can be
really at any point in time. Were the coaches ever
concerned about going over days? Because there's a
certain number of days that they have to --

LO: Uh-huh.

RR: -- stay under. Do you remember


any conversations about, you know, we're getting
close to that max allotment or anything like that?

LO: Like I know compliance would send


us updates, you know, like you're at 43 of however
many days, but that's something that the coaches
discuss in their coaches' meetings.

RR: Do you ever sit in on those


coaches' meetings?

LO: No.

RR: Was anything ever said about,


we're getting close to our number of opportunities
for this particular kid, or number of overall days,
we're not going to log some of these local trips that
we have?

LO: No.

RR: Was that ever said?

LO: Nope, not to me.

RR: Okay. Have you ever heard that?




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LO: No.

RR: Okay. Tom?

TH: No.

CS: Yeah, I've got a couple.

RR: Uh-huh.

CS: When a coach travelled out of


state --

LO: Uh-huh.

CS: -- did you arrange the travel for


all coaches or just Coach Ollie?

LO: Well, at different times in my


time here it's been different. Before I became his
assistant, I would do some of the travel for the
assistant coaches, but a lot of times they'll book it
themselves. Coach Ollie, I'll book -- I book all of
his travel.

CS: All right. What about the '16,


'17 season?

LO: So last season we had a graduate


-- one of our graduate head managers, who was filling
in in an administrative role, who would book travel
for the assistant coaches if they did not book it
themselves.

CS: And what was that graduate head


manager's name?

LO: .

CS: When a coach was traveling local,


I think you said that you would provide like
directions to a high school --

LO: Uh-huh.

 


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CS: -- for Kevin. Was that true for
all the coaches or just Kevin?

LO: Just Kevin.

CS: Did you provide the coaches


anything when they travelled local, itineraries or
contact information, anything for a coach when he
left campus?

LO: Other than Coach Ollie, no.


Unless -- if they're traveling with Coach Ollie, then
when I sent him his schedule, I'll copy it to them.

CS: In instances where Coach Ollie


travelled, how did you give him that information?
Was it an e-mail or printed?

LO: Both printed -- sometimes


printed, sometimes text.

CS: Do you have any records that


you've kept -- like say Coach Ollie is going to --
I'm just going to use Putnam Science Academy.

LO: Uh-huh.

CS: He's going to Putnam Science


Academy. Did you have a folder for that trip with --
on your computer, by chance, where you would keep his
itinerary, directions, everything he needed to know
for that trip?

LO: No. Like if I had it on his


calendar that he's going to Putnam Science, then I'll
look up the address, type it, and then text it to
him.

CS: Okay.

LO: And that would be that.

CS: So you didn't keep any records on


your computer of his local area trips?

LO: No, not beyond --




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CS: Okay. What about the receipts
when they came back.

LO: Uh-huh.

CS: Could you just give you a little


more detail about how you sent those to the business
office?

LO: In terms of -- can you clarify?

CS: Yeah. Did you scan them and send


an e-mail to the business office with all the text
scanned, or did you put them in an envelope and walk
them over to the business office?

LO: Usually, we walked them over to


the business office, but everything is put in -- you
know, into a system to be approved through -- in the
computer, so.

CS: Do you have any records showing


the receipts that you received from any of the
coaches from any of their local trips?

LO: Well, for local trips, I wouldn't


receive receipts because they wouldn't have a hotel
or a rental car. It would just be mileage to the
location, so there would be no receipts.

CS: What about like --

LO: -- unless there was tolls --

CS: -- a meal out?

LO: They get per diem based on the


time of day that they left, so I wouldn't have any
need for meal receipts.

CS: Okay. And what about the


mileage? How did you let the business office know
about the mileage that a coach had accrued while
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LO: Same way as all of the other
travel reimbursements. You just -- you enter, you
know, that they went to this town, and, you know, I
would MapQuest the mileage from -- whether they left
from here or if they left from their home.

CS: Would you have sent an e-mail


with, Coach Ollie went to Putnam Science, it's
30 miles from campus. Would you just put that in an
e-mail, or would you call the business office? How
would you let them know the mileage?

LO: Goes through the University's


travel system.
m
CS: So you would input it into the
travel system?

LO: Uh-huh.

CS: Okay. Thanks.

RR: Annie?

HG: Do you keep an electronic


calendar for Coach Ollie?

LO: Yes.

HG: Is that like through Outlook or


something?

LO: Yeah. Gmail.

HG: So would you --

LO: -- Outlook.

HG: Would you include like where he


was recruiting that day if he was going on a
recruiting trip?

LO: Sometimes.

HG: Okay.




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RR: Does the university system -- I
think you said it was the university travel system --

LO: Uh-huh.

RR: Where you have to submit


everything through?

LO: Uh-huh.

RR: Does that keep a history, as far


as what trips have been submitted, reimbursed, that
type thing, or --

LO: Yes.

RR: It does? Okay. Going to kind of


transition here, Larib. Wanted to talk about CARA
logs. Do you have any responsibilities as it relates
to submitting CARA?

LO: Nope.

RR: Okay. Do you know who handles


that for the staff?

LO: Generally the head manager will


input the CARA logs.

RR: Have you ever been asked to


assist with that, or --

LO: No. I don't even know how to put


the CARA logs in.

RR: Okay. And that's fine. Yeah,


we're just trying to figure out -- just get some
facts, so I appreciate it.
Wanted to ask about pickup games.

LO: Uh-huh.

RR: Have you ever heard, you know,


that student athletes are -- you know, found a time
to play, were going to play pickup? Does that ever
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LO: I mean, if I hear the managers --
because they will have managers there to keep
score and run the clock for them.

RR: So the managers talk about it, or


--

LO: Uh-huh.

RR: When does that normally happen,


those pickup games?

LO: During the summer, preseason,


postseason.

RR: Normally not during like regular


practice time?

LO: No.

RR: They're kind of too busy during


that time? Would the managers -- I think you said --
would they run the clock, is that what you said?

LO: Yeah, run the shot clock.

RR: Would -- would they keep stats,


do you know?

LO: I know when I was a manager, we


did. In recent years, not to my knowledge, but that
doesn't mean they didn't.

RR: Got you. Did the managers ever


-- did you ever see any printed out stats from those
pickup games or anything?

LO: Not -- I can't recall because, I


mean, I get copies of the practice stats, so, I mean,
I -- the amount of paper in my office is beyond
overwhelming, so.

RR: That's okay. So do you recall


over the past like four years ever seeing any stats
from pickup games?




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LO: Maybe, but I can't say with
certainty.

RR: That's okay. Do you know --


would stats ever -- from those pickup games, would
they ever be put in coach's boxes? Did you ever see
that?

LO: Again, it's hard to say because I


can't -- if I can't recall seeing stats, I can't
recall seeing stats. So you're basically asking me
the same question just in different wording, so.

RR: We're just trying -- I mean, I'm


just -- not trying to catch you out, so just want to
say that.

LO: No, I get that.

RR: I just -- we have to ask, you


know, ask the questions.
As far as pickup, do you ever remember
talk in the office about someone saying, you know,
how was pickup? Who's going? That type thing? Was
there ever any talk about that?

LO: Not that I've heard.

RR: Okay. Did coaches ever ask


managers, hey, how was pickup today, that type thing?

LO: Again, not that I've heard. The


coaches spend a lot of time in their meeting room. I
spend time in my office, so --

RR: Okay.

LO: -- they have a lot of


conversations that I'm not privy to.

RR: That's fair. I'm going to pause


there. Tom, did you have any?

TH: No.




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RR: Clint?

LO: Uh-huh.

RR: Annie? Okay. Want to go back.


You mentioned -- we talked a little bit about Dave
Sevush.

LO: Uh-huh.

RR: What was Dave's role on staff?

LO: When I first came back, he was a


GA, and then he got hired full time as director of
video and scouting.

RR: So what would he do? Like what


was his responsibilities, I guess, in that position?

LO: Breakdown game film, practice


film, different clips of different plays -- kind of
isolate them. He would help kind of -- again, you
know, coordinating the recruiting and what coaches
are going where on what days. That was his primary
responsibilities.

RR: Okay. Got you. Would student


ever -- would student athletes ever have to go meet
with Dave to kind of go over film or anything like
that?

LO: If they wanted clips of a certain


play or the practice, Dave is who they would go to to
get the clips or for him to upload them, you know.

RR: Did they -- they all have -- I


think is it a Hudl account?

LO: Yeah, I think it's Hudl.

RR: And would he have --

LO: Hudl or sometimes they will, you


know, put it directly on their computer or iPad.

RR: Oh, okay. Would he upload things

 


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for them, that type thing? Clips and things like
that?

LO: Yes.

RR: Do you ever remember seeing Dave


meet with a student athlete to go over film?

LO: Yeah -- I don't know if they like


sat down and went over it, but obviously they have to
meet if he's going to upload it to a computer or
anything for them.

RR: Do you remember any time where he


was going over that that he was, you know, giving
pointers, was kind of showing, hey, you kind of did
this wrong, and you should do it this way? Anything
like that?

LO: No, I was never in the room.

RR: Okay. Tom?

TH: Did you ever see Dave out on the


basketball court helping guys with plays?

LO: You clearly have never seen --


met Dave before. No.

RR: Clint?

CS: No.

RR: Annie?

AF: I'm good, thanks.

RR: Larib, have you ever heard of an


individual by the name of Derrek Hamilton?

LO: Yes.

RR: Who is Derrek?

LO: He is a workout guy. I don't


know, I -- who I know worked out and





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after the season was over as they were
preparing for their professional careers.

RR: Who -- how did and


know about Derrek?

LO: I do not know.

RR: Did Derrek know Coach Ollie?

LO: I believe so.

RR: How did they know each other?

LO: That I do not know.

RR: Where did Derrek workout with


and ?

LO: I believe they sometimes worked


out in Werth, and beyond that, I don't know where
they worked out, if they worked out at the rec, or --

RR: Did you ever see those sessions,


or did you just hear about that?

LO: I never watched the sessions. I


mean, I would see it in passing.

RR: Did you ever see what exactly


they were doing, or --

LO: No.

RR: Okay. Did they have any


equipment or anything that was out of the ordinary,
or were they just doing basketball drills?

LO: Just basketball drills.

RR: Okay. Do you remember what year


that was?

LO: Whatever year they were here,


2000 -- they were here 2015, '16 season, I think. So
it would have been the spring of 2016 after the

 


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season was over, I believe. I can't remember off the
top of my head. I deal with a lot of student
athletes, so whatever year they were here -- they
were only here for a year, so.

RR: Okay. And you said -- what time


period was it? Was it after the season was over, or
--

LO: Yep. As I said previously, it


was after the season was over as they were preparing
for their professional careers.

RR: Okay. Was class already


dismissed, do you remember?

LO: No. They wouldn't still have


been here if they weren't in class.

RR: Would Derrek ever come up to the


offices? Did you ever see him up there?

LO: I saw him up -- at least once I


saw him upstairs, yeah.

RR: Was he talking with coaches? Or


what was he doing when you saw him?

LO: Talking with coaches, I believe.

RR: Did he ever say where he was --


where he was from or where he was based out of?

LO: No, not to me.

RR: Okay. Tom?

TH: Did you say -- do you know who


arranged for Derrek to work these guys out?

LO: I do not know.

TH: Okay. And do you know whether


Derrek was compensated for his services?

LO: I have no idea.

 


Ollie Admin 0841


TH: Thanks.

CS: Nothing.

RR: Annie? Larib, want to ask about


a former recruit, ?

LO: Uh-huh.

RR: Do you remember that name?

LO: Yes.

RR: Did you ever meet ?

LO: Yes.

RR: Where did you meet him at?

LO: Games. He came to a number of


games when he was being recruited.

RR: Got you.


?

LO: .

RR: ?

LO: .

RR: Okay. Is that , or --

LO: , correct.

RR: ? Okay. Did ever


come on official visit?

LO: Yes.

RR: Let me back up and ask this:


When student -- when prospects come on official
visits and unofficial visits, do you have any duties
as it -- regarding those?




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LO: Yes, I do. The preapproval
forms, generally, and then work with -- used to work
with our students, and book either -- book
their travel, type of itineraries, make dinner
reservations, things like that.

RR: Okay. Did -- during


official visit, was there a gathering or anything at
Coach Ollie's house, do you remember?

LO: Yes, there was a team dinner at


his house.

RR: Were you there?

LO: Yes.

RR: What all did -- what all did they


do during that dinner?

LO: I think there was a -- I believe


there was a game on that they had on the big screen
in his basement. We just had food out.

RR: Was there a recruiting


presentation that was given to or --

LO: Not that I saw. Not that I was


present for.

RR: Okay. Was there ever a point


that Coach Ollie and had a time where he had
a private conversation or that they separated from
the group?

LO: Yes, I believe so.

RR: Where did they go for that, do


you remember?

LO: Just in -- I think it was in the


guest room.

RR: Do you know -- was anybody -- did


anybody else go in there with them, or --




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LO: I went in and gave them my iPad,
and then I was not there present for the
conversation.

RR: Do you know -- what was the iPad


for?

LO: I believe they spoke to -- I


can't remember who it was, maybe Ray Allen.

RR: And who's -- who's Ray Allen?

LO: Former player, former NBA player,


as I'm sure you all know. Best three-point shooter
in the history of the NBA. I think we all know that.

RR: It's all good. Who -- who asked


for your -- to use your iPad?

LO: I don't know. I was probably the


only person who had it present at the time.

RR: I mean, who did you hand it to?

LO: To Coach Ollie.

RR: Coach Ollie? So is it fair to


say, I mean, that he asked to -- to borrow it or not?

LO: Potentially. I don't remember


him specifically asking. And again, anything kind of
video or anything like that, you know, Dave would
setup, so Dave could have asked me to give it to
Coach Ollie.

RR: How do you know that they talked


to -- to Ray Allen?

LO: Because they did a FaceTime


because I had the -- saw the number on my -- my iPad.

RR: Did y'all talk about that before


that night or -- that y'all were going -- that they
were going to try to set that up, or --

LO: Yes, I think so.




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RR: When was that?

LO: I don't remember. I mean, this


is years ago.

RR: Yep. And just looking for best


recollection, that's it.
Do you know -- could it possibly be
during -- at the office that they talked about
possibly wanting to set that call of, or --

LO: Could have been. I can't say for


certain because again I don't recall exactly.

RR: Okay. Did they call anybody else


other than Ray Allen?

LO: Not to my knowledge -- or to my


recollection, I should say. Ray is the only person I
distinctly remember.

RR: How long was Coach Ollie in the


-- you said it was the guest room?

LO: Uh-huh.

RR: How long were he and in


the guest room?

LO: Few minutes.

RR: Do you know what -- what Ray


Allen and talked about or what was said in
there?

LO: No, I was not in the room, so.

RR: Okay. And I think I already


asked this, but -- I apologize, I'm going to ask it
again. Was -- other than Coach Ollie and ,
did any other coaches or any other -- anybody else go
into the room with them?

LO: Not that I can recall.




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RR: Okay. Tom?

TH: Yeah. I think I understood this,


but I just want to double check. You said you knew
for sure that Ray Allen was called. Is that because
when you got your iPad back you saw Ray Allen's phone
number on your iPad?

LO: Uh-huh.

TH: Okay. Did it -- was it like --


did you know his phone number, or was it sort of a --
a number that -- I mean, was Ray Allen's name next to
it, or you just knew his number --

LO: I mean, I know -- I know his


number. I deal with a lot of our former student
athletes, so.

TH: Okay. Could they have had a


second call with another former UConn player?

LO: They could have. Again, as I


said, I cannot recall.

TH: Sure.

LO: The only one I can recall with


certainty is Ray.

TH: What about Rudy Gay?

LO: Potentially. And I don't -- I'm


trying to think. Again, I don't remember with
certainty. Ray is the one I remember --

TH: Sure.

LO: -- 100 percent.

TH: Yeah. Did you have any dealings


with Rudy Gay?

LO: We went to college together, so


yeah. So I've known him for years.




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TH: Would you have -- do you -- you
still have your iPad, I assume?

LO: Yes.

TH: It's been awhile, but is there


any chance that the phone records are still on your
phone -- or your iPad, I'm sorry?

LO: Probably not. I mean, this was


years ago.

TH: Okay.

LO: Two years ago.

TH: If you think of it after this


interview, would you mind checking and just let Annie
know if you by chance still have any record of those
calls?

LO: Uh-huh, yep.

TH: And would you recognize Rudy


Gay's number if it was on there?

LO: Yeah.

TH: Okay. Does it show the duration


of the calls, do you remember? Like did it show the
duration at the time?

LO: Probably does. I'm not sure.


I'm not a big FaceTimer personally, so.

TH: Okay. Is that iPad your personal


iPad or UConn's iPad?

LO: UConn iPad.

TH: Okay. Did -- leading up to


's official paid visit, was there any
discussion among the coaches that you heard of where
they talked about showing sort of --
demonstrate to the brotherhood of the UConn
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LO: Not that I was present for.
Again, they have all their meetings in their
conference room.

TH: Have you ever heard Coach Ollie


or the other coaches talk about the UConn
brotherhood.

LO: Yes.

RR: Okay. And what's that -- how


would you -- how -- how did they describe it -- or
what's your understanding of it? What does it mean?

LO: I don't entirely know what you're


getting at because brotherhood is, you know, a pretty
--

TH: I think --

LO: -- basic name.

TH: Yeah, that's fair.

LO: -- basic term, and, you know,


like during practice when our team huddles up at the
end, you know, they chant brotherhood -- brothers or
something like that, you know.

TH: Right. Right.

LO: Obviously as teammates that are


working towards the same goal, you know --

TH: Right.

LO: -- or have come through the same


program, they consider themselves brothers and
family.

TH: Yeah, that's kind of -- that was


my understanding. I was just curious. Okay.
Thanks.

CS: Is the iPad that you gave to KO

 


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that night, is it here at the office today?

LO: No.

CS: It's at your house?

LO: Uh-huh.

CS: Okay.

RR: Annie?

AF: Nothing else.

RR: Okay. Larib, want to talk about


another former staff member, Danny Griffin.

LO: Uh-huh.

RR: What was Danny's role here?

LO: His title was director of player


development.

RR: So if you could, what were his


like responsibilities?

LO: Basically to kind of teach life


skills to the players, you know, setup -- not
seminars, but, you know, meetings, whether it be,
you know, someone from the bank on how to setup a
checking account or -- you know, just trying to
prepare them -- things to prepare them for life after
basketball.

RR: Everyday skills?

LO: Yeah.

RR: Things like that?

LO: Uh-huh.

RR: Did -- did Danny ever go to


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LO: Yes.

RR: What would Danny do during


practice?

LO: Generally would sit with like


Dave and Kevin Freeman and watch.

RR: Were they have sitting off to the


side or --

LO: Yep, they sit off to the side.

RR: Did -- did you ever see Danny do


any coaching type activity or anything like that?

LO: No.

RR: Okay. Did -- did you ever hear


Danny make any calls to recruits or anything like
that?

LO: I did not.

RR: Did Danny ever make mention, that


you heard, about a particular recruit or their family
or anything like that?

LO: Honestly, I did not talk to Danny


very much, and his office is not in the same hallway
as mine, so we did not have a ton of contact. I know
that he knew 's family, both being
from LA. But beyond that, no.

RR: Was there anybody -- any other


recruits from LA that Danny talked about or had a
relationship with or knew that you knew of?

LO: Not that I am aware of.

RR: Tom?

TH: You know, when you mention


, do you recall by chance whether Derrek
ever worked out like
and ?

 


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LO: Not to my knowledge.

TH: Okay.

LO: I'm pretty sure when the season


was over, went back to LA.

TH: Okay.

LO: So I don't think -- he wasn't


there.

TH: And you're not aware of Derrek


Hamilton working out any other UConn student
athletes?

LO: Not to my knowledge.

TH: Okay. All right. Thanks.

RR: Clint?

CS: Nope.

RR: Annie? Okay. Larib, want to ask


about Boo Willingham.

LO: Uh-huh.

RR: Do you know Boo?

LO: Yes.

RR: Who is Boo?

LO: Former player and friend of Coach


Ollie's and former teammate.

RR: They're friends?

LO: Yeah. I mean, they're former


teammates, so yes, they're friends.

RR: Right. Okay. Where -- do you --


has he ever come up to the offices or anything, or --

 


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LO: Yes.

RR: What does he -- does he normal


talk with coaches? Or what does he normally come up
there for?

LO: He doesn't -- he doesn't come to


the office often, but, I mean, to say hello -- say
hello to Coach Ollie.

RR: Okay. Have you ever seen Boo at


any games or anything?

LO: Yes.

RR: Where does he normally sit?

LO: Usually behind the bench like we


would put any other former player.

RR: Are -- do recruits sit kind of


near that section or somewhere close?

LO: Yes.

RR: Have you ever seen Boo talk to a


recruit?

LO: I believe I saw him talk to


, but I have not -- oh, and I know -- what's
his name? .

RR: So -- I'll take them one at a


time.

LO: Uh-huh.

RR: Where did you see him talk to


at?

LO: At a game.

RR: Were you close to them when they


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LO: No.

RR: So I'm going to ask this -- I'm


pretty sure I know the answer, but I'm going to ask
the question. Did you hear anything that they talked
about?

LO: No.

RR: Was that just one time that you


saw them talking, or --

LO: Yeah, I can only recall when


was on his official visit, that game.

RR: Okay. So was that game played at


the XL Center?

LO: Yes.

RR: Okay. And then talking about


, that's another former recruit?

LO: Uh-huh.

RR: Where did you see Boo and


talk?

LO: At a game as well, I believe.

RR: Were they there together, or --


do you know?

LO: I can't remember if they came


together or not, but I know that they had -- they had
a preexisting relationship.

RR: Did ever come on any visits


to UConn?

LO: He came on -- he never came on an


official visit, I don't believe. He came on an
unofficial visit. I know he came to -- he came to
our First Night one year. I don't -- I think that's
it. I don't -- I don't remember him coming on an
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visit.

RR: That's fine. Did -- did Boo come


with him on that unofficial?

LO: I -- I don't think so. Only


person I specifically remember being with him was his
-- his guardian.

RR: Okay. Do you remember what his


guardian's name is?

LO: I believe it's .

RR: Okay. When you saw Boo and


talk, did you say that was at a game?

LO: Yes.

RR: Were -- were you close to them


when they were talking?

LO: Huh-uh, no.

RR: So did you hear anything that


they said?

LO: No.

RR: How many times was that that you


saw them talking at a game?

LO: I couldn't tell you. I have no


idea.

RR: Tom?

TH: Would it have been more than once


that you would have saw Boo talking with ?

LO: I don't know. I can't -- I can't


remember. We have 30 games a season, and lots of
players -- prospective student athletes coming to
games and former players, so it's very hard to recall
something as specific as that.




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TH: As a former UConn player and
friend of Coach Ollie's, would you consider Boo
Willingham a friend to the UConn program?

LO: What do you mean by friend of the


UConn program?

TH: Just a friend of the program.

LO: I -- if you could clarify that a


little more for me, I can answer. I -- what
indicates a friend of the program, I don't --

TH: Did he have a general -- did he


have a positive view of the UConn program?

LO: Yes, to my -- yep.

TH: Would he have been a supporter


of the program, you know, verbal supporter of the
program?

LO: I would assume -- I would assume


so seeing as he played here and is friends with the
head coach.

TH: Okay. That's kind of what I was


getting at. So just sort of like -- I don't know,
like a friend of the program. Just someone who's on
good terms with the program who generally has a good
regard for the program and would reciprocate that
friendship. That's kind of what I was getting at.

LO: Reciprocate? How do you -- what


do you mean by reciprocate that friendship?

TH: Support a friend. You know,


verbal support, you know, any other kind of support.
Do you know if he monetarily supported the program?

LO: Not that I know of.

TH: Okay. All right. Thanks.

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CS: Nothing right now.

RR: Annie? Okay. Larib, wanted to


ask about, have you ever heard of an individual -- I
think his nickname is Munch, but Terrance Williams?

LO: Yes.

RR: How do you know Munch?

LO: He was 's AAU coach


and mentor.

RR: Has he ever been on campus, do


you recall?

LO: Yes. I believe he came with


either on an unofficial or official visit at
some point.

RR:
or --

LO: Yes. I believe he was on -- I


can't remember when, but I believe he's been to
campus. I know he's come to games, so.

RR: Do you know did -- does he and


Coach Ollie know each other?

LO: I mean, I know obviously through


the recruiting process. Beyond that, I'm not sure.

RR: Have you ever heard or seen


anything that -- you know, Coach Ollie talk with
Munch or had phone calls from Munch
or anything like that?

LO: Not directly, no.

RR: Talking about like AAU coaches in


general.

LO: Uh-huh.

RR: Have you ever had to process any




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reimbursement for coaches for expenses like for meals
or anything that they had with an AAU coach?

LO: No.

RR: Do coaches ever turn in -- I


think you said before they get per diem --

LO: Uh-huh.

RR: -- is that correct? Do they ever


have to submit reimbursement for any other meals or
anything like that?

LO: Only if it was like on a


recruiting visit.

RR: So only if it falls out of that


personal per diem type structure?

LO: Yeah, like -- yeah.

RR: Okay. And so the only other


times that you get those requests is if it's
associated with a visit?

LO: Yes.

RR: Have you ever heard a coach talk


about that they took an AAU coach to dinner, got a
drink, something like that?

LO: No.

RR: Tom?

TH: No.

RR: Okay. Clint?

CS: Nope.

RR: Annie? Larib, just a little bit


more, and you'll be done.
Okay. Want to ask about -- we talked
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LO: Uh-huh.

RR: I want to ask if a recruit comes


on either one, official or unofficial, do they ever
get an opportunity to work out with the team or play
pickup with the team, do you know?

LO: Very rarely. I only -- I only


remember -- I remember one -- I -- one of our current
student athletes, . He didn't -- well,
he didn't work out with the team, I don't think, but I
remember him doing a workout on his -- his visit.

RR: Do any prospects get any gear to


be able to work out in, or anything like that?

LO: Not to my knowledge.

RR: Do you know if there's a process


in place for if a recruit gets gear to workout in,
that they can turn that back in, or anything like
that?

LO: I do not know.

RR: On official and unofficial


visits, do prospects get to watch practice or sit in
on practice?

LO: Yes.

RR: Do -- does the team have a


catered meal after practice?

LO: Yes.

RR: Do prospects ever go up and eat


with the team after practice?

LO: Occasionally, yes.

RR: Do they -- do they get to do that


on unofficial visits?

LO: I have not seen on unofficial

 


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visits.

RR: What was that? You haven't seen


--

LO: I haven't -- no, I have not seen


any recruits on unofficial visits eating a team meal.

RR: Are you -- are you present up


there whenever the meal is going on, or --

LO: Not usually. You know, like in


passing. I don't generally sit at team meal when
we're at home, so.

RR: Do you know when a prospect is


coming for an unofficial? Do coaches normally tell
you about that, or --

LO: Sometimes they do. Sometimes


they don't.

RR: Okay. Tom?

TH: No, but can I go back to


something else? I just realized something. Could
you -- you said earlier you were kind of in charge of
tickets and all of that sort of thing.

LO: Uh-huh.

TH: Did -- and Boo would sit kind of


where former players -- UConn players sit behind the
bench?

LO: Uh-huh.

TH: Are those -- would Boo get comp


tickets?

LO: Yes.

TH: Okay. Do you know whose comp


tickets are they? Like does the head coach get a
certain allotment, or --





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LO: He does, but he would get them
from the team allotment as a former player.

TH: I got you. Okay. Did Derrek


Hamilton ever get comp tickets?

LO: Not that I'm aware of.

TH: Okay. All right. Thanks.

RR: Clint, did you have anything?

CS: No.

RR: Annie? Okay. Larib, just want


to ask a little bit about just compliance rules
education stuff.

LO: Uh-huh.

RR: Do y'all have any sessions with


compliance to go over rules ed or --

LO: Yes, monthly.

RR: Monthly?

LO: Uh-huh.

RR: Do y'all meet just as -- as a


basketball staff with compliance, or is it a big
group meeting, or how does that work?

LO: It's probably -- I don't know.


What has it been -- like the past year and a half
it's been just as basketball staff.

RR: Do y'all go over different rules


changes, things like that?

LO: Yes.

RR: How about rules regarding


recruiting different CARA logs, accountable
activities, things regarding those topics?

 


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LO: Yes.

RR: Do you -- does Coach Ollie, does


he encourage y'all to reach out to compliance if you
have a question?

LO: Yes.

RR: Do you feel comfortable reaching


out to compliance if you have a question to ask?

LO: Yeah. To certain people in


compliance, yes.

RR: Do you -- have you had


opportunities where you've had to call over and ask
some questions?

LO: Yes. I probably bother Annie far


too much. Annie and Amanda.

RR: Tom?

TH: In your own words, like how would


you describe what Coach Ollie does in his own program
to kind of monitor for compliance and promote
compliance? Just kind of in your own words, how
would you describe that?

LO: I mean, obviously we have -- you


know, we have our monthly compliance meetings. And,
you know, we keep -- keep a folder of all of kind of
the correspondence that comes from compliance, you
know, when they e-mail us about a new interpretation
or something like that.
I know a number of times recently --
you know, he may call -- well, Eric is now our new
liaison -- over, you know, and ask if they have -- if
the coaches have a question during coaches' meeting.
And I believe -- I believe that in their either pre-
or post-practice huddle, you know, they will mention
compliance to the players and have -- a few times had
compliance come over and talk.

TH: Good. And those monthly


compliance meetings and the e-mails on new interps

 


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were those coming from compliance -- from the
compliance staff?

LO: Yes.

TH: Okay. All right. Thanks.

RR: Clint? Annie? Okay. Larib, has


anybody asked you about your interview here today?

LO: No.

RR: Have you talked with anybody


about the fact that we asked to interview you?

LO: I mean, our staff has the


schedule of the interviews, and parents know that I'm
being interviewed, but beyond that, no.

RR: Okay. So has -- no one's reached


out to you to ask about the fact that you were being
interviewed, about what it was, that type of thing?

LO: No.

RR: Okay. All right. Well, Larib,


thank you for your time today. I really appreciate
it. I do have one last thing just to go over here,
and this is just about confidentiality, okay?

LO: Uh-huh.

RR: So before I do that, is there


anything you would like to add or clarify to what
we've talked about today?

LO: I don't think so.

RR: Okay. All right. So the last


thing I need to tell you is that NCAA legislation
requires that you help protect the integrity of this
investigation; therefore, as the investigation
continues, we ask that you're not permitted to speak
with others about what we've discussed today or any
information related to this investigation except that
you may speak with personal legal counsel and others




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present in the room.
Failure to protect the integrity of
this investigation could result in an allegation that
you've violated the principles of ethical conduct
and/or the cooperative principle. So do you
understand those statements?

LO: Yes.

RR: Okay. At some point after the


NCAA completes its investigation, someone else
involved as a party in this case or their attorney,
legal counsel, or representative may request to
interview you about matters related to this case, and
we encourage you to agree to speak with them just as
you've agreed -- you have agreed to speak with you.
This doesn't include any representatives of the
media. So we ask that you do not speak to the media.

LO: Uh-huh.

RR: If you do have any questions


about who you can or cannot talk to, please feel free
to contact me or contact Annie, and we're happy to
help you with that. Not saying that someone will,
but just in case.

LO: Uh-huh.

RR: Do you have any final questions


for me?

LO: Not at this time.

RR: Okay. All right. Then I'll note


for the record this interview concluded at 4:56 p.m.
Eastern Time. Thank you.




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INTERVIEW OF DAVID SEVUSH
UNIVERSITY OF CONNECTICUT
FEBRUARY 14, 2018

RR: All right. I'd like to note for


the record that it's 9:02 a.m. Eastern Time, and I am
at the Skadden Firm in New York, New York, and
it is Wednesday, February the 14th, 2018.
For the purpose of voice
identification, I would like to ask each person in
the room to state their name and title. And, Dave,
we'll start with you.

DS: David Sevush, title currently


with the Knicks -- or the basketball operations video
associate.

CS: Clint Speegle, Lightfoot,


Franklin & White, outside counsel for the University
of Connecticut.

RR: Annie?

AF: Annie Fiorvanti, associate AD for


compliance at UConn.

RR: Okay. And I'm Russell Register,


one of the assistant directors of enforcement with
the NCAA. And I'll just note for the record that
Annie is joining us by phone for today's interview.
I want to note on the record that
today's interview is being recorded. Before I went
on the record, I asked Dave if it was okay to record
today's interview, and you said it was; is that
correct, sir?

DS: Yup.

RR: Okay. And then I just want to


note for the record as well that Clint is recording
for the institution, but he has a verbal agreement
with us to keep that recording confidential pursuant
to Division I, bylaw 19.5.8, and that he agrees
not to share that recording with any third parties;
is that correct, sir?

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CS: That's correct.

RR: Very good. All right. So prior


to going on the record, you received a form entitled
the NCAA interview notice form. Did you have a
chance to read that form?

DS: Yes, I did.

RR: Okay. Do you understand that the


purpose of this interview is to determine whether you
have any knowledge of or involvement in any
violations of NCAA legislation?

DS: Yes.

RR: Do you understand that you may be


represented by personal legal counsel during this
interview?

DS: Yes.

RR: Do you understand that NCAA Bylaw


10.1 obligates you to provide truthful and complete
information in this interview?

DS: Yes.

RR: Do you understand that if it is


ever determined that you've provided false or
misleading information or withheld information in
this interview, that this could constitute a
violation of the NCAA principles of ethical conduct
and could impact your athletic-related duties as a
current or potential staff member at an NCAA
institution?

DS: Yes.

RR: Do you understand that the


information you provide during this interview may be
shared with other NCAA departments?

DS: Yes.

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RR: Do you have any questions
regarding any part of the interview notice form?

DS: Nope.

RR: Okay. And did you sign and date


that form?

DS: Yup.

RR: Okay. Perfect. Thank you, sir.


Appreciate you bearing with me.
All right. So you have this
information today, but just so that we have it on the
record, what's a good phone number to contact you at?

DS: .

RR: Okay. And what's a good e-mail


address for you?

DS: David.Sevush, S-E-V-U-S-H, at


gmail.com.

RR: Awesome. And so this is to kind


of put it in a nutshell, but if you could, just walk
us through what's your employment history up until
now, kind of what positions you've had along the way.

DS: I was a student manager at UConn


from 2007 to 2010. Graduated from UConn as an
undergrad and spent one year with the Charlotte --
they were the Bobcats then, they're the Hornets now
with the NBA -- as an intern in basketball
operations. I then spent -- that was 2010, 2011.
The following season was '11, '12, I
spent at Florida State as the assistant video
coordinator for men's basketball.
And then that following season, so
'12, '13, I came back as the graduate assistant for
two seasons with UConn. And then for three seasons,
I was the director of scouting-video.
And then as of September of the this
year, I became the basketball operations video
associate with the New York Knicks.

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RR: Got ya. Very good. Good memory
there on exactly what years. So if you could, kind
of walk us through what were -- and so you started
back with -- you were at UConn as a manager from '07
to '10?

DS: Uh-huh.

RR: And then you came back as a GA


the '12, '13-year?

DS: Yup.

RR: So if you could, kind of walk us


through what were your responsibilities as a -- as a
graduate assistant, and then what were your
responsibilities as scouting-video coordinator.

DS: A lot of kind of similar


responsibilities. That was kind of why I was kept on
as graduate assistant.
So I started with -- I would deal with
Annie when -- she wasn't in charge of compliance
then, but I dealt a lot with compliance as a liaison.
Marketing. I would help our director of ops with
scheduling. And a lot -- really, the bulk of what I
did was video work for the team, so getting ready for
upcoming games and breaking down our own video
postgame. And so that was -- pretty much the only
thing I think in addition I did was as graduate
assistant, I did some class checks the first year,
but after that, I just ended up not having as much
time, so ended up just focusing a lot on the video
side.

RR: Okay. So when you say that you


helped with scheduling, is that kind of you helped
with scheduling different games and things or --

DS: More so just like the practice


schedule, game schedule, off days, making sure we
were hitting all the right off days and the right
weeks and calculating all of that stuff.

RR: Did you -- so with that, are you


talking about like CARA? Did you keep up with that?

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DS: I did not keep CARA, but I just
knew, in terms of making sure with four games and
practices, when we had to take an off day when we --
on a given week. But I was never like putting in
CARA.

RR: Do you know who was during that


time?

DS: Usually our head manager, so it


was either or . Those two during
my time.

RR: Got you. And , --

DS: .

RR: Do you remember what years --

DS: was the last two seasons,


so not this year, but two years previous. And then
Nick would have been the two years before that. So
they were in two-year increments.

RR: Okay. Got you. So just


recapping kind of -- during your responsibilities.
So you said you were kind of a compliance liaison --

DS: Uh-huh.

RR: -- that you did some marketing as


well, worked kind of in that field a little bit?

DS: Yeah, uh-huh.

RR: Helped with kind of the practice


schedules --

DS: Uh-huh.

RR: -- those type things.

DS: Uh-huh.

RR: And of course all of the video

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work with the pregame and then postgame?

DS: Yup.

RR: And so you said as a GA, the only


difference was class checks?

DS: Yeah, did class checks the first


year. The second year I ended up not even getting to
that.

RR: Got you. So those


responsibilities just confirm -- kind of stayed the
same throughout your time there?

DS: Pretty much, yeah.

RR: Okay. Got you. Wanted to --


I'll come back to like the scheduling and everything,
kind of how that worked.

DS: Sure.

RR: Wanted to ask about recruiting


logs.

DS: Uh-huh.

RR: Like did you have anything to do


with those, or how were those kept, do you remember?

DS: That was -- so that was part of


like -- my compliance work would be when coaches
would go off on the road, they would submit to me
like a little slip that would dictate like where they
were, what kid they saw, what event it was, what type
of recruiting event, and then I would just submit it.

RR: When you say you would submit it,


what do you mean?

DS: Put it into JumpForward.

RR: Oh, okay. So that's the


compliance service that you used?

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DS: Yeah, so we used JumpForward.
And so our coaches, you know, wouldn't always
remember -- the first year, it was always a -- you
know, a process, and then I just took it on as -- so
make sure we could -- like we knew how many days and
everybody was up to date. So they would -- I would
have them submit to me a sheet, and then I would give
it -- I would put it into JumpForward.

RR: Okay. What did -- what all


information did that sheet require them to -- to tell
you?

DS: Just the -- what date they went


out, the prospects that they saw, and the school --
what school the prospect was from, and then where
they might have seen -- like what -- if it was at an
event, was it an away game, a home game, what -- like
where did they actually go to see whoever it was that
they saw.

RR: Okay. And so once you got that,


walk me through what you would -- what you would log?

DS: Just go into JumpForward and put


in that -- it's pretty much all that same
information. We no longer had to worry about
contacts or e-mails(sic), so it was all -- it was
just (inaudible) recruiting opportunities, so I would just
put it on JumpForward whatever they asked.

RR: Got you.

DS: Which is pretty much all -- just


that information.

RR: Okay. And that was my next


question, so -- so I was going to say, you kind of
worked with this compliance part --

DS: Uh-huh.

RR: -- so I'm sure you recall, what


are the number of days that you had to maintain?

DS: You had 130 for the staff for the

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academic year, and then 7 recruiting opportunities
per prospect.

RR: Okay. Got you. Were the coaches


pretty good at turning in those sheets to you?

DS: It would be hit and miss. Like


sometimes I would have to -- you know, I wouldn't --
again, guys could -- guys could go out after
practice, guys could go out -- I didn't like check on
them necessarily, so it was on them to submit it.
So I would try and print their -- you
know, every month or so, I would try and print and
give it to them so that they could, hey, are you
missing anything? Hey, are you not missing anything?
But sometimes they were good, and sometimes weren't.

RR: Got you. So, Dave, I want to ask


-- it's been reported to us that, that there were
some local travel --

DS: Uh-huh.

RR: -- that was not reported. And


that it was not reported to save days, either part of
the 7 or part of the 130.

DS: Okay.

RR: Does that ring a bell or --

DS: I mean, no. It was on them to --


if those guys when they go home at night, you know --
you know, Glen or whoever drives out and wants to do
his own thing and doesn't want to tell anybody, I --
you know, I don't really -- they were -- I submitted
the days and kept track, and we would write it up on
the board and talk about it, this is how many we have
left.
I don't -- I can't remember anybody
doing like solo trips on their own without telling
anybody, hey, I went to go see a kid. You know,
UConn coaches are pretty visible, so. But, again,
from where I sat, I just worried about my little
sheets and my little folder that they gave me and
kept track of them.

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RR: So did anyone ever ask you not to
report anything?

DS: No.

RR: During your time at UConn?

DS: No.

RR: Got you. Got some examples, Dave


--

DS: Uh-huh.

RR: -- and I just want to show these


here. So just to note on the record, these are the
recruiting logs for -- let me make sure I have the
right day. For '13, '14 and '14, '15 years. There's
some others, but these are the most pertinent.
So -- these look familiar, yeah?

DS: Oh, yeah.

RR: Okay. So I'll also note on the


record I'm showing Dave -- these are some Tweets.
The first are Enforcement's exhibits 1 and 2, and
then the Tweets are Enforcement's Exhibit 3.
But some of these Tweets -- and you
can see these too -- talk about, you know, different
people in the media seeing Kevin Ollie or different
coaches at different events to see a particular PSA.

DS: Okay.

RR: So -- and I'm not going to go


through all of these because that's -- that's
redundant. I completely get that. First one is --
would be around November 24th, 2013. So it's
probably up here.
So there is something logged there,
but it's for PSA . And so this is
just someone saying that they spotted Kevin Ollie
watching -- or doing an eval.

DS: Uh-huh.

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RR: So that particular PSA, there's
not a -- there's not a recruiting opportunity that's
logged there for him. That's another one for
January 19th, 2014. Okay. Sorry. Let me see this.

CS: Just real fast, Russell, can you


provide that --

RR: Yeah, will do.

CS: -- to us -- thank you.

RR: Yes, sir. Sure will. So


January 19th, so there's someone for .
This is where Kevin Ollie and Glen Miller were
spotted watching . So for those two
coaches.
And then January 19th -- I think this
is the same one, actually. So it's another, you
know, Tweet kind of confirming that.

DS: So January 19th they were both


out, and so --

RR: So there's something logged --

DS: Yeah.

RR: -- that kind of shows that they


were out?

DS: Yeah, yeah.

RR: But not for that PSA; right?

DS: And -- so that's what date


again?

RR: Let me see. January 19th, 2014.

DS: Okay. So he had also probably


signed his NLI by then; right?

RR: Could have. So there's -- just


some examples. And then -- so October 29th, 2014.

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Because I don't think there's anything -- Jordan
Tucker?

DS: Uh-huh.

RR: So just, you know, the media


reporting that UConn was there to watch .
So -- I just showed those to you. I'm
not going to, you know, go through everything.
So, I mean, you can see kind of some
examples. And some of them, there may be where a
recruit might have signed --

DS: Uh-huh.

RR: -- an NLI. But there were some


examples where, you know, we see that -- and a lot of
that is local, where there wasn't local travel
reported. So do you -- do you know how that could
be?

DS: From where -- it could be -- from


where I sat, I -- no. I mean, again, I was in charge
of they submit a sheet to me in the office the next
day, and I put it into JumpForward. You know, if
guys go out and do their own thing -- I mean, again,
I think just reading through the -- I don't know. I
don't know what media reports you have or what
they're saying or what they confirmed, what actually
occurred.
You know, from my experience, putting
-- saying an UConn coach was there is also -- you
know, throwing an UConn coach's name in there is nice
for the AAU coach or for the reporter. It's not
necessarily always the case.
But if coaches went out on their own
-- you know, could they have? Sure. Do I think they
were? Not really because I don't know what the huge
benefit would be for some of those guys.

RR: Got you. So I just want to ask


again, just to make sure on the record, you know,
were you ever asked by anyone, staff member or coach
at UConn, not to log anything, as far as recruiting
opportunities?

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DS: No. They would be like, hey,
what can -- how many can we -- how many are we at?
How close am I? Can I use one more? Can I get
another day here or there based on how many we needed
for the rest of the year. But nobody was like, hey,
take this sheet of paper but don't put it in. That
never really happened.

RR: Got you. Okay. Did -- did you


ever hear any conversations where the coaches were
asked not to turn things in to you? Not for you not
to log it, but for coaches not to turn anything in?

DS: No.

RR: Okay. I want to ask about --


before I move on though, Clint, did you have some
follow-up?

CS: I've got several questions.


Thanks, Russell.

RR: Okay. Yeah.

CS: Okay. Dave, you said that


coaches wouldn't always remember, so you took it
over.

DS: Uh-huh.

CS: Can you just tell us about the


process of how you came into doing this job? Did KO
tell you to do this job, or did you volunteer to do
this job?

DS: I believe -- I don't recall


directly, but I think it was just a group -- like,
hey, somebody needs to be on top of it.
I remember the first year, whatever
year that was, my first year as GA, we were under
NCAA -- we were still like not -- we weren't at the
full 130, and I think we were at, I think, 90, if
that's correct. But we were not at the full 130.
And I think we even went over because nobody -- I
wasn't doing it at that point.
So nobody was really in charge and

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kind of -- it was a new staff, and we ended up, I
think, at 92, and it docked us, I think, 6 days the
following year, so then we were at 124. And so at
that point, it was just like, well, we can't just
leave this up to nobody. Like we've really got to
have somebody in charge of it. So I just took it.
It was just something easy that I could handle in
terms of budgeting the days, knowing what was coming
down the line and what you needed at the time. It
was just something that I took on, I think.

CS: Thanks for that clarification of


the timeline. Just so we're clear, can you give us
the time period, the season, that you took over this
responsibility?

DS: So the -- the championship year,


so '13, '14 would have been the first year. The '12,
'13 season, it was just kind of free for all.

CS: What did you do with these slips


that the coaches gave you?

DS: I have -- so there's a box on


them that says DS, and then -- well, I think it was
receipts. So I used them -- we kept them. I don't
know if they're -- they're somewhere. But I would
used them to also coordinate with our administrative
assistant so that we could track the coach's receipts
for their travel.
So especially the guys that flew. So
Ricky and Coach Hobbs did most of the flights, so any
time they flew, they would have to make sure their
receipts were in. So me and the administrative
assistant would coordinate and make sure that, okay,
I put the day in, now you can put the receipts in,
that type of thing.

CS: Who is the administrative


assistant?

DS: It was for the most


part, at the time.

CS: Do you know -- is she still at --

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DS: She's not there. She was our
co-head manager with , and so and
Larib would kind of handle all of the reimbursements
and receipts and that type of thing.

CS: So as of today, you don't know if


those slips were kept in a file at Connecticut or
what --

DS: No, no.

CS: Did you do any other sort of


tracking outside of JumpForward, any sort of
spreadsheets or white board tracking of --

DS: I would write down on our -- in


our room, in our conference room -- we had -- it was
all white boards, so we have our recruiting wall. I
would keep track of the days left. Usually official
visits and days, recruiting days, I would keep track
of on the wall. So it was just always -- it was
never like erased and -- it was just always there so
that they knew what we were at and then mostly how
many we had left.

CS: At any time do you ever recall


going in and seeing the recruiting days being a
different number than what you had previously put up
or a different handwriting than what you had written
it in?

DS: Yeah. Coaches would come in and


like erase one and add like their day if they had
gone out. That would happen. Rarely, but yeah, it
happened every once in a while.

CS: So it wasn't just totally on you


to write it on the board then?

DS: Yeah. Some coaches like to, you


know, put in their own -- like, you know, if they --
again, it was -- it was an important part of the job,
but if we were getting ready for a game, it wasn't
like the first thing on my mind in the mornings, so
if they handed me a sheet, once I submitted the
sheets, which I wouldn't -- again, I would do every

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couple of weeks, I would then go update the day once
I double checked everything and counted the
JumpForward log versus the -- like my little sheets.

CS: So even if a coach did update the


board, you still went back in and made sure that the
number was correct?

DS: Yes.

CS: Okay. Did Kevin Ollie ever ask


for specific benchmarks when y'all were approaching
20 days remaining, 10 days remaining, or did he just
say, how many days do we have left?

DS: We would talk -- you know, there


wasn't any specific benchmarks, but it was more time.
So it would be like -- you know, around the 1st of
the month, I would always try and -- he would always
kind of want an update-ish (sic). You know, that
wasn't -- I don't know if he was doing it around the
beginning of every month, or if I was just doing it
for him, if that makes sense.
But we always knew that April -- you
had to save days for the -- for the evaluation
periods in April, so that was always 24 days you had
to save. So it was always counting and having to
explain that it wasn't just counting down to 0. It
was counting down to -- you couldn't get past 24.
And really want some for the -- like
the open sessions in April. Like it was always
trying to keep track of like the -- in April, you're
going to need, I always try, 30 to 35 days. So we're
not counting from 130 to 0. We were counting 130 to
35 or 30 or however many that was so that we could
save days.

CS: Going back to the board real


fast.

DS: Uh-huh.

CS: Was there ever an instance where


-- that you can recall, where the number that was on
the board was less than what you were calculating it
should be?

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DS: Yeah. I would have days where I
--

CS: You just hadn't updated --

DS: -- I needed to double check, and


I would start from scratch and go through, you know,
everything on JumpForward and count every single one.
And we would go over it again and make sure I have
the right number. And I wouldn't just use -- like
JumpForward spits out a number, like what you're --
like how many total. Like those sheets have like a
total at the top. I didn't always go by that.
So I would always try and double check
and make sure, go like month by month and double
check with the coaches, make sure, hey, all of these
are right, you're not missing anything, I want to
make sure that the number is right.
So, yeah, there was times when the
number may be off for whatever, a week, two weeks,
where I'm still trying to figure out a day that I'm
missing. But at some point, we would always kind of
catch it.

CS: How often did you do that audit,


for lack of a better term?

DS: I would say probably maybe twice


a season. Like it would happen -- I would put in the
days each month and maybe that, again, with -- you
know, that was happening -- I would be putting in the
slips not that day, but those would get into a little
pile there, and then I would put them in, you know,
once a month, once every other month, so that we had
-- so that they could get their reimbursements and
that we could get like a more accurate number. And
then I would check the number on the board, and it
was all right, and then I would just keep going.

CS: During the course of the


recruiting cycle, was there ever a period of time
where days remaining was talked about more with the
coaching staff than other times? I'm assuming April
would be --

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DS: Starting January, usually. So
September is a heavy month for everybody to go, and
you feel great because you have 130, so, you know,
everyone is trying to get out and go see kids. Once
the season starts, once practice starts in October,
everybody is kind of in house more, and then
November you're -- you know, you've got holidays.
You've got your trips, like Thanksgiving trip. You
know, and then December. So you're really more like
worried about the season at that part -- at that
point.
Come January, it starts to look at
like, okay, where are we at? Because from January,
February, March, we may only have 40 days, 30 days,
and then you've got to worry about -- you know,
you're budgeting the last bunch of days. The 24 for
April for recruiting are like nonnegotiable, but
everything above that is, you know, a debate amongst
the staff. Hey, how many do we need for the rest of
April? How many do we want to use right now? This
kid is really important. I need to go out. Okay,
go.
So you become a little bit more
judicious starting in January. And really January,
February, March, as the season winds down, you start
worrying about April, and it gets a lot more
conscious of what the number is.

CS: Russell, I don't want to step on


your toes here, and if you're getting to this, stop
me. But can we go back and just talk generally about
your role in recruiting? It's been reported to us
that you were at every recruiting meeting, and that
you were very involved. Can you just talk to us
about your role in recruiting?

DS: I always saw myself as kind of --


I would look at the bigger picture. The coaches
really recruited each individual kid. That was their
job. I would handle -- we have a recruiting board
with all of our potential recruits and just their
general information, and then a roster board moving
forward for the next current year and the next two.
And so it would be more about which types of players
we need, like that type of thing. It was more
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players fit, and which kids, like, fit with the
roster what years, that type of thing.
So I was at those meetings. I didn't
necessarily -- you know, I didn't necessarily
contribute in terms of the recruitment of those kids,
but it was all about more -- like the bigger picture
and how they fit into the program.

CS: Do you know if there were other


recruiting meetings that occurred that you were not
at that the men's basketball staff had?

DS: Probably. I mean, coach would


talk to the assistants individually. I'm sure they
were talking recruiting of individual recruits at
that point in his office. But -- you know, and there
were times that I was doing video work that I
wouldn't be in the room, and I'm sure recruiting was
discussed. But if that -- the answer is that.

CS: All right. Thanks. That's all


I've got.

RR: Other than the recruiting staff


meetings, were there any other general staff meetings
that the department had -- or the program? Sorry.

DS: Yeah. I mean, the other one is


the first two years while I was GA, I was at class a
lot in the afternoon, so I would miss recruiting
meetings, staff meetings, practice meetings,
practice, whatever. So I was in three hours of class
like twice a week right in the middle of the
afternoon. So that type of thing where I would be
missing practice, meetings, or whatnot.
Besides that, you know, again, coach
would meet with people, staff members and some of the
assistants, individually or a couple of those guys
would be in his office. But for the most part, if it
was a -- like a pre-practice meeting, I was, you
know, around.

RR: Got you. Can you recall did the


topic of recruiting days and who all was traveling,
did that mainly come up in the recruiting meetings,
or was that talked about at the general staff

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meetings too?

DS: Yeah. For us, it was a small


group of us, so everything was kind of -- there was
no like -- we didn't designate some meetings as
recruiting meetings and some meetings as staff
meetings. Everything was kind of just rolled up into
one.
I know like kind of football staffs do
it differently where it's like you have to designate
what is what. For us, everything was on the table at
any time. So it could be a pre-practice meeting, and
I would let them know how many days we have left. So
it's not necessarily one or the other.

RR: Got you. Yeah, every program


does it a little bit different, so --

DS: For sure.

RR: -- figure out exactly. Did --


did the topic of -- and I think Clint might have
asked this already. Did the topic of how many days
were left in a particular time period, did that come
up a lot at these meetings or --

DS: More once January came, it would


start to get, you know, a little more hectic. And as
the season comes to a close, it starts to become more
of a focus as you get your mind wrapped around this
season is ending, we've got to worry about the next
one. We're going to start worrying about April.
So as we got down, it would come up
more. Hey, where we at with April? Who do we need
-- who is going to be priorities for us? How many
days do we have left? That type of thing.

RR: Were any of the coaches ever


worried that they may not have enough days to spread
around or --

DS: No. I was more worried than they


were, I would say. Because they were more -- they
were just -- well, I need the days, you know. Of the
assistants, it's always, oh, well, I'll take it. But
I was always like, all right, well, we only have X

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amount, 18 days left, 10 days left, whatever. So
that was not as much of a super worry for them.

RR: Got you. So do you recall any


chatter or any talk about well, might just not need
to report this particular evaluation or contact
because I'm getting close on my days? Anything like
that?

DS: No. I mean, they would talk


about not being able to go, and I can't -- I really
want to make this game, can't make it. But not --
not anything like that.

RR: Okay. Clint, anything?

CS: I've got nothing. Annie, you've


got anything?

AF: No questions on my end.

RR: All right. So, Dave, I think you


mentioned a little bit earlier when you were talking
about your role and your responsibilities about film,
of course --

DS: Uh-huh.

RR: That was a big part, I think.


Can you tell me exactly -- as far as film review,
what -- what all did you -- what were your
responsibilities. What did you do with that?

DS: So postgame, it would be a lot of


evaluating our offense and defense. I had some
advance stats that I would be running based on how
many minutes guys were in the game. But it would be
doing kind of the postgame edit for coach so that he
could walk into the team and kind of go over the
things that he thought needed to go over.
In terms of review for opponent's
scouts, it would be myself and Kevin Freeman would
watch personal (sic). Glen Miller was in charge of
kind of the other team's plays and all of that stuff.
And that would be combined, and Glen would go over it
with the team.

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RR: So you and -- sorry, can you
clarify. You and Kevin --

DS: Kevin Freeman.

RR: -- Freeman would do what exactly?

DS: Personal. So we would watch the


players that we were going to play against and kind
of just give a write-up for the staff and go over it
as a staff. Hey, this is who we're going to play.
This is what he does. This is what he likes to do.
This is what he doesn't like to do. And then Glen
would take that along with what he had done and he
had given us for video, and we would wrap it all in
one, and Glen would present it to the team, go over
it on the court, go over it in the film room.

RR: As far as -- I think you said


that you -- did you watch your teams? Like after the
game, did you break down that?

DS: Yeah. The UConn stuff would be


-- I was handling both the offense -- our own
offense, what we -- the play calls that we had, that
we ran, whether they were effective or not. Who shot
the ball, where they shot it from, that type of
thing. And then defensively what we did, what
breakdowns we had, what we had defensively that were
good possessions, bad possessions, that type of thing
for our own stuff. And that was for every one of --
every one of our games.

RR: Got you. What would you do with


that once you broke that down?

DS: Most -- I would then take out a


handful of clips and bring them to staff meetings. I
would be ready for staff meetings. Coach Ollie, a
lot of the time, had his own edit ready to play to go
over as a staff. We would kind of whittle that down,
and then coach would go over it -- Coach Ollie would
go over it with the team in the film room.

RR: Did you ever meet with any

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student athletes to go over film?

DS: No.

RR: Did Coach Ollie ever ask you to


go over film with a student athlete?

DS: He would ask me to make sure they


had the film. That was more his common -- make sure
they have the video. So the first couple of years I
was there, it was big on -- we didn't have good
technology, so it was -- you had to upload it to
their laptops. And then the last season, we had a
sharing -- like a cloud, Hudl software, so it was
easy to share it. But he was big on making sure they
had the film that they needed to have.

RR: So what would he tell the team to


do?

DS: He would tell them, go to Dave


and make sure you have the film. Make sure you've
got what you need. So sometimes it would be a video
playbook I could put together with what plays we're
running, and like on the bottom it says the play
name. And then -- so it just runs through that play
three or four times, and the next play three or four
times.
Sometimes at practice, it would be the
same thing, where they could see like the plays that
we're running and what they need to remember at each
position. And so he would tell them, make sure you
go see Dave and get the film.

RR: Did a lot of student athletes do


that on the team?

DS: No.

RR: Okay. Never no, so I always ask.

DS: Sometimes you got -- some of the


guys would watch their own -- the games, just like
the full game they would watch, usually after one of
the better games. But the playbooks, I don't know
how much they -- you know, guys would text me, hey,

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is the playbook available? Okay. And I'll make sure
I send it out to everybody, that type of thing.

RR: So when you say -- I'm sorry.

CS: When you say guys would text you,


coaches or student athletes?

DS: Both. So coaches would ask for


it, players would ask for it.

CS: Okay. Sorry.

RR: No, that's fine. When you say


playbook, is that the film that you were describing
that outlined the play that was being ran at that
particular time?

DS: Uh-huh.

RR: Okay. Is that a yes? Sorry.

DS: Yeah, sorry, video playbook.

RR: Just wanted to be certain on what


exactly that was.

DS: Uh-huh.

RR: Can you tell me whenever the


student athlete if -- or coach. If they texted you
and said, hey, is that available? How did you get
that to them?

DS: So I started with using -- UConn


has an UConn Dropbox like service, so
UConn.dropbox.edu. So I would upload it. It would
give me a link, and then I could send them the link.
So -- and then last year it was the -- Hudl was the
program we used.

RR: And so each -- did each coach or


each player have like an account they could log into?

DS: Uh-huh, yup.

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RR: And that's how they could receive
it if you sent it to them?

DS: Yup.

RR: That's a yes? Sorry.

DS: Yes, sorry.

RR: Did any student athletes ever


come -- where was -- where was your -- let me ask you
this just so I have a good mental picture: Where was
your office at?

DS: I was in the conference room. So


(unintelligible), but it was the -- our conference
room with all of the white boards, that -- I just had
a little desk there and then -- so I was right there
for film and for meetings and stuff like that.

RR: Was there ever a time that a


student athlete came to meet with you to get that
playbook, that video playbook or anything like that?

DS: It would come up -- some guys


would come up after practice to ask me for it, not
just text me. And then some of the guys would just
come up to -- they would ask for it along with just
like sitting down and talking. Not about the video
playbook, but just about life, you know, like how
they're doing and stuff like that. So, yeah, guys
would come up into the office plenty to like ask for
that, ask for the video playbook, ask for the game
from the night before, ask for help accessing it,
hey, it's not working on my phone, that type of
thing.

RR: Dave, it's been reported to us


that there were times that you met with student
athletes but it went beyond just giving them that
playbook, that you actually went over or broke that
down with them. Did that ever occur?

DS: I mean, I would give them the


playbook for the most part. If they had questions,
they went to the coaches. I mean, the guy would ask

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me, hey -- he would watch the film and be like, where
am I supposed to go? And so I would, you know, keep
watching the playbook, you know, you're supposed to
go there.
But that's about -- there wasn't a lot
of like coaching or, you know, really working on
their like skills or working on like what they need
to do better. Like there was never any of that.

RR: So that that you just talked


about, is that an instance where a student athlete
would be watching it, and then you would just give a
comment or what exactly?

DS: Yeah. I mean, we -- I never


really watched any of the film with them. That was
like for them to do on their own. But they would
come to me with a question about a play that we had,
like what am I supposed to do here? So it's more
like memory of their plays.

RR: How often would that happen, do


you think?

DS: Very rarely. I'm trying to think


of -- maybe two guys ever came up to ask about the
plays. You know, it was -- mostly kids were visual
on their own and then during practice. Not a lot of
guys had questions about like what they were supposed
to be doing in terms of plays. They would meet for
practice for that type of thing.

RR: Do you remember who those two


student athletes were?

DS: No, I don't really remember. I'm


trying to think, but only had -- only a couple.

RR: Did Coach Ollie or any other


member of the staff, did they ever ask you to meet
with student athletes to go over the playbook or help
them out, like go over anything with them as far as
film break down or anything?

DS: No. You know, I would -- my


comment back to the coaches was tell them to

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watch the playbook. The video playbook was pretty
self-explanatory. You know, it's the play being run
in practice. It's the play being run in a game.
It's the play being run overhead.
It's -- if -- you know, it's them,
even like the players themselves running the play.
So it's not particularly hard to, you know -- it's
not hard to figure out if you're watching it, if
you're one of the -- the kids or the coaches.
But, yeah, like the coaches would be
like, hey, can you make sure he knows what he's
doing, and I would say, well, tell him to watch the
playbook. You know, it is what it is. It's pretty
easy to figure out.

RR: So what were the coaches


specifically asking you?

DS: They would -- hey, like watch the


plays because some of the coaches didn't -- weren't
totally sure on some of the plays where the guys were
supposed to go. Hey, can you sit with him and figure
that out? But that was not -- I was just like, hey,
just watch the video playbook, like they will figure
it out.

RR: How often did that happen, where


they would ask you --

DS: Rarely.

RR: Do you remember who it was that


asked you that?

DS: Yeah, Glen wanted me to -- I


think it was Glen with one of his picks. But he was
just like, hey, can you just -- and I was like tell
him to watch the playbook. It will be -- he'll
figure it out.

RR: And you said that was Glen. You


mean Glen Miller?

DS: Uh-huh.

RR: How many times did he ask you

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that?

DS: Not often. Maybe once. I


remember being annoyed by it.

RR: Being annoyed by it? Is that


what you said?

DS: Yeah. Because again, I put a lot


of effort into the video playbooks. That's what they
were there for, so if coaches or players weren't
watching it, it's annoying to then ask, hey, can you
do something if you haven't even watched the point of
the video playbook.

RR: Did any other coaches ask you?

DS: No.

RR: What student athlete did Coach


Miller ask you to --

DS: That I don't remember.

RR: So probably answers my next


question, but did you meet with that student athlete?

DS: No. Again, my thing was watch


the video playbook. That's what it was there --
that's what it was there for.

RR: Clint, did you have any


follow-up?

CS: Yeah. The two guys that you said


might have come in and talked with you and you might
have provided --

DS: Yeah.

CS: Do you remember what season that


was?

DS: No, not really. I don't really


remember.

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CS: Do you remember if they were
bigs? Were they guards? Any --

DS: I want to say it was like -- I'm


trying to remember. I just remember having --
correcting a guy on a play because it was a question
of like, you know, were we doing it right. But I
don't really remember -- I don't remember who it was,
to be honest with you.

CS: How long do you think that


encounter lasted?

DS: Two minutes. It's a -- like it


was a quick, hey -- before practice, like a hey, you
know, I have a quick question. Am I doing this
right? I was going one way. The playbook has me
going the other way. Oh, just go that way. That
type of thing. So it was more like clarifying what I
had already sent him.

CS: Did you have any role whatsoever


in creating the plays themselves --

DS: Yeah.

CS: -- that were being run on the


court?

DS: Uh-huh. Myself and Coach Ollie,


Coach Miller, the whole staff was part of those, you
know, kind of X's and O's sessions in the off season.
So -- and I would work with Coach Ollie a lot on
diagramming his plays. We have a program that stores
all of the plays we're going to run and all the plays
we have run. So he would rely on me and my work of
the computer to print out plays for him, print out
plays that he needs to remember, print out plays for
the coaches if they needed them, that type of thing.
So yeah, I was -- you know, I think I knew the plays
better than most everybody else.

CS: When would Coach Ollie tell the


student athletes to come see you? Was it after
practice, was it in meetings? When would he broad
cast that message to the team?

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DS: It was usual -- I would let him
know if the video playbook was out, like available to
them. Mostly, it would be after practice, at the end
of a practice. Usually, again, early season as we're
first installing stuff. Hey, you know, if you don't
know, you know, what you're doing out there, make
sure you go see Dave. Get the video playbook. Get
like the film on it and figure it out.

CS: Can you provide a little more


clarity on this UConn Dropbox. Was that a men's
basketball specific thing --

DS: Uh-huh.

CS: -- or is that for like all


students at UConn have a Dropbox that they can use?

DS: It was a service that any person


-- not just student. Any UConn employee, student,
whatever. Anybody with UConn e-mail could login and
have -- and it would -- you could upload a large file
and have a shared link so that you could share that
out. When I was in grad school, we did it for group
projects, and then I just started using it. That was
the easiest way to share film with the coaches, with
the players the first couple of years.

CS: Did you leave the video playbooks


in that Dropbox, or did you delete them after you
were done.

DS: I don't even know if it was like


a real -- it wasn't like a normal Dropbox. It was --
you uploaded it, and it gave you the link and that
was it. Now, I don't know -- I think the link would
expire after a certain amount of time. I don't
remember how much. But it wasn't what you would
normally think of in a Dropbox where you can leave
stuff there for -- this was like quick. You need to
upload something, a large file, you get a link for
it, you send it out, and that was it.

CS: Okay. That's all I have got on


that point. Annie, anything?

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AF: So, Dave, I'm trying to
understand the Dropbox thing.

DS: Uh-huh.

AF: Was that through a HuskyCT


account or anything like that, or this was like a
totally separate link?

DS: I think it was separate. It was


just -- I think we got it when they changed like --
to like Microsoft Suite or whatever, like the office
stuff.

AF: Okay.

DS: It just -- I was -- I remember


early on, I was looking for a way to send large
files, and it was UConn.dropbox.edu. And you could
upload, you know, any size file, and it would just
convert it to a shareable link for some time period.
I don't really remember how much. But it wasn't
necessarily husky -- it wasn't HuskyCT.

AF: A shareable link?

DS: Uh-huh.

AF: So when they went on to the link,


were all the videos compiled there, or would it just
be --

DS: It would just be the individual,


whatever video that was.

AF: Okay. So each -- each video had


its own link?

DS: Yeah. And then pretty much, you


know, we would send the games sometimes that way if
they didn't put them -- you know, if we didn't put
them right on to the laptop, so you would have to
share it that way if I wasn't with the -- with the
coach or with the player, I could send them. If that
makes sense.

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AF: Easy -- easy access.

DS: Yeah.

AF: And my other question, just going


back to sort of the interactions that you had with
players in your office. So I know you said there
were two instances where people came up to talk about
plays in particular. Other times would just be
technical questions related to accessing film, that
kind of stuff, and whether or not they had access.
Any other type of interactions that you would have
with student athletes, you know, off the court, in
your office, related to basketball?

DS: I mean, I guess everything we did


was related to basketball, but it was more so just,
how are you handling yourself? How are you -- you
know, how are you doing with instruction. But not --
never a question with like, you need to, you know,
move your right hand on your jump shot type of thing.
But it was much more like, how are you handling
coach? How are you handling the wins? How are you
handling the losses?
So it had to do with basketball, but
it wasn't like instruction. It was just more how
their lives were.

AF: So it was more just in general --


almost like player development in a way and just
personal development, I guess you would say?

DS: Yeah, personal development, I


guess, would be a good one.

AF: Are there particular student


athletes that you were closer to than others?

DS: Yeah.

AF: That you would talk --

DS: -- there were some guys --

AF: (Unintelligible. )

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DS: There were definitely a couple of
guys that I would talk to, that would stop by the
office a little bit more that I would talk to a
little bit more. You know, was
kind of one of the guys that was always around that
he would pop in and ask him how he was doing, how his
family back home was doing, you know, how he was
handling everything that he had to handle on a
day-to-day.

AF: Yeah.

DS: You know, and


are guys that I'm pretty close with. But those are
kind of the three that I would say more than anybody.

AF: You have a more close personal


relationship with?

DS: Yeah.

AF: All right. That was all on my


end. Thank you.

CS: I've got one more question. Did


Coach Ollie ever -- or any of the other coaching
staff members -- ever encourage student athletes to
meet with other non-countable coaches to discuss
plays?

DS: No.

CS: Okay. Thank you.

RR: Did you ever see any other


non-countable coaches discussing plays with student
athletes?

DS: Never plays. Again, they -- he


would send them to some of the other guys, other
staff members, for personal stuff. You know, we had
a director of player -- I think Danny, his title was
player development, but he was more like
off-the-court stuff. Kevin Freeman, again,
scheduling issues, you know, class check, you know,

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penalty issues, dean of discipline type stuff was our
director of ops. That was -- so he would have him go
see those guys for those types of things, but not for
-- never for plays and for video. That was kind of
my area.

RR: Okay. Wanted to ask about


something called captain's practices.

DS: Uh-huh.

RR: Do you recall that type of


practice ever occurring or that title?

DS: It's the -- the guys would always


want time to play, like play against each other in
the off season usually. For whatever reason, coach
Ollie always called it captain's practice. He always
thought like that was what -- like he remembered it
as.
So the guys would always want to know,
oh, are we -- when can we play pickup? Like when can
we play? So we would tell them, all right, well you
guys all have study hall starting at, you know, 7:00
clock, so if you're going to play in the afternoon,
play in the afternoon, like you're fine.
Especially in the first couple of
years when we didn't have -- we didn't have the
practice facility. We would split time in Gampel, so
you would have to schedule the court for them to play
pickup.
But he would always call it captain's
practice, and it always drove me nuts. But he always
referred to it as, oh, how are they doing in
captain's practice? It's like, it's just -- they're
just playing. Who cares. But yeah, that's the only
time I've ever heard anything being referred to as
captain's practice, and it always drove me nuts.

RR: When you say he -- when he asked


how they were doing in captain's practice, is that
Coach Ollie asking that question?

DS: Yeah. I mean, he would ask and,


you know, you would get -- again, when you're meeting
with the players, you get feedback, hey, who's

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playing well, who's not. What do you guys think of
the team this year, are we going to be good? You
know, how is everything going? You know, is anybody
-- you know, are you playing good with somebody or
are you not playing good with somebody? That type of
thing. More getting the -- the players' feedback on
like how everything is going in the early season.

RR: So whenever Coach Ollie would ask


that question, is he asking you that question?

DS: No. It would be usually to the


whole staff, and that would be -- you know, if we're
in September and we're talking recruiting and it's
like, hey -- he would always -- he would always say,
how's captain's practice going? And it was like, oh,
I heard this guy is playing well, I heard that guy is
playing well, that type of thing.

RR: And how would coaches know that?

DS: The managers would, you know,


stat usually the pickup games and get a sense of what
guys were doing what. Strength coaches were usually
-- or strength coach was usually out there at some
point and our trainer too. They would be around.

RR: Who were the managers again?


That would be --

DS: You would have, you know, a group


of -- not any -- there was the head managers and
then, you know, you would have our group of student
managers around with, you know -- because afterwards
guys would get in like individual work with just the
manager and just shoot or whatever.

RR: Okay. And you said these


sessions occurred preseason or --

DS: Yeah, it was usually, you know,


as soon as you got back, Septemberish until practice
started. You know, based around if we worked out, if
we did our countable hours. You know, two or three
times a week, you know, the guys always wanted to
play, so it would be available to them to play the

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other couple of days. The schedule would be open for
that if that's what they wanted to do. Sometimes
guys had school. Sometimes guys were hurt.
Whatever.

RR: How would -- how would the


student athletes know when that was?

DS: I mean, we would schedule in


terms of they were aware that like it's part of -- we
would have it as part of the schedule, but they're
aware that it's kind of up to them if they want to
play or not. But like pickup was available. We knew
the court would be available at X -- you know,
whatever hours it was on whatever days based around
if we had the court or the women had the court or if
we were doing a workout that day or not. You know,
they knew that the court was always kind of available
those days at those times.

RR: So was it on like a schedule


calendar that they got, or --

DS: We never did --

RR: Okay.

DS: We weren't that -- until this


year, I guess. I wouldn't say after I left, but the
with the new rules, you had to have the scheduling
(unintelligible.) But no, it would usually be a
text, hey -- I think the managers used to call it
pickup because that's what everybody besides coach
would call it. You know, it was like you can have
pickup from 1:00 to 4:00. So sometimes the -- like
the captains would call it at 2:00. Sometimes they
would say 3:00. Sometimes we wouldn't have the
numbers to play. Whatever the case may be.

RR: And so -- I think I asked, but


just to clarify, how many times during preseason
would it normally occur?

DS: A couple of weeks. Not much more


than that because you get to the 15th until you can
go full-team, and so you would have the little group

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workouts at the beginning, and then you would have,
you know, full-team hourly -- you know, two different
hourly practices after the 15th, and then practice
started the beginning of Octoberish, somewhere in
there. So it was only just a handful of weeks.

RR: And how many times a week


normally?

DS: Maybe once or twice.

RR: How many years, like during your


tenure at UConn, did that happen?

DS: Pretty much all of them that


the guys could play.

RR: Got you. And then just wanted to


go back, and I think you did a good outline of who
all was there, but you said managers were normally
there?

DS: Uh-huh, yup.

RR: And that they would text players


to let them know when the court was available; is
that correct?

DS: Yeah, the managers were always


kind of a conduit for the players amongst themselves,
amongst whoever, to figure out what guys were
available, what guys weren't. They would ask the
coaches, oh, is so-and-so in? Oh, no, he's in study
hall. He's not going to be there today. Don't worry
about it. Like they would check on kind of
availability.

RR: And so would and


, would they have been involved in that too?

DS: Yeah.

RR: And I think you said, was the


strength and conditioning coach and the trainer
there? Is that what you said?

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DS: Yeah. Athletic trainer was
pretty much always there. Strength coach would float
in and out.

RR: And who were they?

DS: James Doran has been the athletic


trainer the whole time, and we've had three strength
coaches -- well, no, two strength coach -- three --
we had Chris West, who is still at UConn but isn't
with men's basketball. Travis Illian was, I think,
three or four years. Carlos Daniel this last summer,
and then he left I think I week after I left in
September.

RR: How would they know to come to


those practices, do you know?

DS: They would get a text -- the head


manager had several group texts going. One to
support staff, so that would be myself, you know, the
other -- Dave Kaplan, video services, our equipment
guy, strength coach, athletic trainer, that group,
and tell them, hey, this is what -- made -- like this
is the schedule for the guys for tomorrow, and that
would go. And then he would also have one for the
coaches and another one for the players. So group
chats just kind of communicating the schedule. So
our head manager was kind of -- that was his world,
always communicating those schedules out.

RR: How did -- and I think you


mentioned this. When did Coach Ollie ask about how
captain's practices were going?

DS: It would happen every once in


awhile. Hey, who's doing all right and who's not?
You know, what have you guys been hearing? You know,
in September, you're kind of itching to get out on
the court, so you kind of always check in.

RR: Would he ask that at staff


meeting or --

DS: Yeah, with the coaching staff.


He would just be like, hey, what are you guys hearing

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from -- what are you guys hearing from captain's
practice? But it was always like, what are you
hearing from the group about pickup.

RR: And would the coaches have talked


to the student athletes or the managers? Or how did
they have that information?

DS: That -- it would be from whoever.


You know, you would hear it from -- whether it was a
manager, one of the players would let somebody know,
hey, this guy is playing really well this week. You
know, this guy over the course of the month has been
playing really -- you know, really well. The
managers would talk to them. You know, you would
hear it from everybody, really.

RR: Did the managers report in those


meetings? Were they there?

DS: No. This was only -- it would be


myself, the three assistants, our operations guy, and
our player development guy.

RR: Got you. Did the managers ever


talk to Coach Ollie about it or --

DS: No. That would be -- you know,


the managers would go through a staff member before
they would really jump into coach's office and be
like, hey, this is what's going on.

RR: Got you. So it kind of went from


manager to coach to then to coach -- okay. Is that
correct?

DS: Yeah, there's definitely some


filtration there.

RR: Okay. How many student athletes


would normally come to those games, do you recall?

DS: However many we had available,


you know, early season. You would have some guys
obviously have class. You know, we would have
walk-ons that would fill in. We would have things

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like that. But you're hoping to get the ten.
You know, I don't remember. Some
years we had the full allotment of scholarships so we
would have 12 or 13 guys around. But, you know, it
was an open invite. You know, they all want to play,
so they're more than happy to show up and play. Some
guys were hurt, so, you know, they would be out. Our
graduate guys would often have class at that time, so
they were usually out. But, you know, whoever was
around would usually come.

RR: Did -- were any coaches present


at them, do you know?

DS: No, no. Especially not in


Gampel. At the practice facility, we would be in our
office, but, you know, we're working. But in Gampel,
you know, if you had to go, you would try and walk
the long way to get anywhere so that you would avoid
going out on the court if you knew that was what was
going on.

RR: Did any non-coaching staff


members, did they ever attend those captain's
practices?

DS: The only type -- the same type of


-- like in Gampel, you would have to sometimes cut
through the building to get somewhere, and then in
the practice facility, you're just at your office,
and so there's nothing -- but nobody was really like
out there sitting there at court side for no reason.

RR: Did you ever attend one or go to


any of them? That's a no?

DS: No. When I was a graduate


assistant, I would go like a manager to help out,
just make sure nobody gets hurt and stuff like that.
But once -- especially once I became full time, no.
I'd be in the practice facility but that was -- you
would hear the ball going, but that's about it.

RR: Okay.

CS: I have a few follow-ups.

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RR: Uh-huh.

CS: Dave, I think you said that the


managers kept stats; is that right?

DS: Yup.

CS: What would they do with those


stats?

DS: They're printed, copied. When we


first started, they were like -- and people would
read them over. But over time, nobody really cared.

CS: When you say people would read


them over --

DS: Yeah, the coaches. Like we would


have them in the mailbox, but some people read them,
some people cared, and some didn't.

CS: And would that have individual


student athlete names on there?

DS: Uh-huh.

CS: Who did what at that practice?

DS: Yup.

CS: You said Dave Kaplan is the video


--

DS: Services.

CS: -- services?

DS: Uh-huh.

CS: Why was he being alerted to these


practices?

DS: He would -- so the -- he was more


on the text for in-season stuff. So when we had
official practice, practice, he was on the schedule

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for helping film it and helping -- you know, he would
help Glen with his opponent's scouts, and then he
would help with playing the film before practice.
But that's more for in-season.
And he was part of the -- I guess the
text for the support staff was like to the -- sorry
-- to the travel party. So whoever would normally
travel with us was getting daily -- you know, would
get the daily text message. So whoever was on that
text message. So he would be part of the travel
party, so he would be on that text.

CS: Did y'all ever film captain's


practices? That's a no?

DS: No. Sorry.

CS: That's okay. Let's just make


sure we're not limiting this line of questioning to
what Coach Ollie referred to as captain's practices.
If I'm understanding you correctly that was -- what
he was calling captain's practices was in the
preseason, September time frame --

DS: Uh-huh.

CS: Outside of that, were there other


practices that were voluntary in-season practices
where the -- Coach Ollie might just say something,
hey, guys, the gym will be open tonight from 7:00 to
10:00 if y'all want to play pickup?

DS: In-season, we never -- pickup was


not -- we never endorsed them playing pickup. If
they did stuff on the their own -- you know, I'm sure
they played on their own, like three-on-three,
two-on-two, and stuff like that. But that was never
something that he would endorse, especially
in-season.
When we were in Gampel, he would say,
hey, if you want to get -- if you want to work on
your game, you know, you can come back -- well, the
gym will be open starting at 7:00 to 10:00 or 7:00 to
whatever. When we didn't have a practice facility,
it was obviously much harder for those -- the players
to some back and workout. And so they would grab a

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manager usually. The first couple of years when I
was a GA, I would help out. That type of thing.

CS: And are you aware at those type


of practices, did the managers ever go back to coach
Ollie and say who was attending that extra time in
the gym?

DS: No. I mean, they might have told


some of the coaches -- whoever like the -- the
assistant was that was responsible for that
particular player. But again, the managers going to
Coach Ollie was few and far between.

CS: Okay. Are you aware of Danny


Griffin or any other non-countable coaches going to
any of these captain's practices?

DS: No.

CS: All right. That's all I've got.


Annie, anything?

AF: Nothing additional. Thanks.

RR: Dave, just so I understand, so


when the stats were ran for the captain's practices,
is -- are those saved? Or how are those logged?

DS: Yeah, it would be -- you get a


daily total, and then kind of a cumulative total of
the, you know, the -- the only important one really
was like wins and losses, how many wins did a guy
have, how many losses. That was about it. But,
yeah, there was a, you know, Excel file somewhere
usually that -- again, the head managers were in
charge of that type of thing.

RR: Got you. So they would just like


keep that on their computer?

DS: Uh-huh.

RR: And then did you say they -- did


they -- they printed that out?

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DS: Yeah. It used to be a lot more
important -- not important, but it used to be a lot,
you know, more interesting to the staff. Over time,
we kind of realized that it didn't really matter at
all. And so nobody -- it used to be like a thing,
like a really interesting weekly thing, like where --
you know, how are guys shooting? And then we
realized it's just pickup, and it really doesn't
matter.

RR: Got you. And you said they put


that in coach's boxes. Is that how they got it to --

DS: Yeah, in the mailbox. Most of


the time it would go in the garbage after a couple of
days.

RR: Got you. To the round file as it


is.

DS: Yup. For sure.

RR: Got you.

AF: I have one more question with the


staff too. So it would have individual names, and
it's just normal stats, baskets, rebounds, all that
kind of stuff?

DS: Yeah. Basic, very basic stats.


Whatever they could count.

CS: Just to make sure I'm clear,


David --

DS: Uh-huh.

CS: -- did this occur, these


captain's practices, occur every year that you were
there or --

DS: Yeah, uh-huh.

CS: Were the stats kept every year


that you were there?

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DS: Uh-huh.

CS: And the first couple of years,


more attention was paid to them, and then you would
say in the '15, '16/'16, '17 season, they were kind
of discarded?

DS: Yeah. Probably even earlier than


that, but yeah.

CS: Okay. Thanks.

RR: No problem. So, Dave, I wanted


to go back -- and I'm sorry. This is from the
beginning.

DS: Okay.

RR: So we talked a lit bit about kind


of keeping up with weekly practices and off days, and
I think you mentioned that you had some
responsibilities there. If you could, kind of walk
me through what you did. What was the normal course
of business?

DS: So the biggest one would be come,


you know, September, he would look to myself and
Kevin Freeman, look to plan out the whole year and
kind of figure out, you know, your day off per week
and how do we maximize our preparation while also
giving the guys the necessary days off for the year.
And so we would try and schedule out the whole season
and go through, you know, the -- our game schedule,
put it into a calendar layout and figure out where
the days are. What they had to start the week, what
they had to end the week.
Annie could tell you very well that I
would spend a lot of time over there asking
questions, double checking, making sure that -- I
figured out the rule of three games in a week means
you have to take off two days the week before, two
days the week after. Trying to put all of those
pieces together was a hassle.
But that was a big part of what I
would work on with Kevin Freeman, is keeping that up
and figuring out what makes the most sense. And then

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knowing if coach wanted to make an adjustment later
in the year, how we could do that on the fly knowing,
okay, let's move this off day and then we'll move
that off day, and we're still, you know, knowing
where the week starts, where the week ends, and what
we have to get done.

RR: So what was -- I think you said


you worked on that with Kevin Freeman.

DS: Uh-huh.

RR: What was his role?

DS: He was director of basketball


administration.

RR: Okay. So would y'all just kind


of work on that together or --

DS: Uh-huh. That was -- we would


spend a couple of days on that each fall, and then
that was kind of a thing. I was very close with him,
and so we would just talk and figure out -- you know,
bounce ideas off of each other, how to -- you know,
if we're going to travel here, we're going to travel
there, what the days are, where we are, like, on the
calendar, what can we do, what is over the line, what
-- that whole thing throughout the year was a
conversation we would have. You know, and I would
then be the go between and run over to compliance
then run back and figure out, yeah, we're good, no
we're not, that type of thing.

RR: So would you try to schedule like


how long practices were going to be or --

DS: Yeah. I mean, we were trying --


we knew earlier in the season it was going to be
closer to two and a half to three hours, but now you
have a certain amount (unintelligible) 20. So like
we would -- you know, all of that was kind of
factored in. Earlier in the season, obviously, it
was easier because practices were going to be --
sorry.
Later in the season is easier.

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Earlier in the season practices were longer, so you
had to really make sure the first week or so that we
were -- that everything was -- you know, all the
pieces were in the right place. Obviously later in
the season, practices are an hour, hour and a half
maximum, and so it's not -- it's not a big deal.

RR: So would you communicate that


like to strength and conditioning so they knew how
long?

DS: That would be Kevin Freeman. So


like I would -- we would work on it together, and
then he was kind of the point person for everybody in
the program to know, you know, what their -- what the
schedule was, what you can do. And he would
coordinate with those people.

RR: Was practice ever changed on the


fly? I mean, was it --

DS: Yeah. I mean, back then --


that's why they made the rule, I'm assuming. Yeah,
practices are pushed back, pushed up, you know, all
together cancelled, pushed off a day, whatever.
Yeah, that would happen for sure.

RR: Was there ever any time during


your time at UConn that there was not an off day
given when there should have been that you knew of?

DS: Not -- so that would have


happened if we already scheduled -- like myself and
Kevin Freeman would have known we had an off day
coming, if that makes sense. Like we had already
figured out the work around in terms of okay, this
was supposed to be an off day, but let's practice
today, but tomorrow we're going to give them the day
off or two days from now, it's still within our week.
Like that type of thing.
But did we ever go through that rule?
No. That was always -- myself and Kevin Freeman were
always on top of that one.

RR: So to the best of your


recollection, there was never a point where there was

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a week without an off day that wasn't permissible --

DS: Correct.

RR: -- in some form?

DS: So we did it -- we've done it


before, but we would have calculated the beginning of
the week, the end of the week, and known that there
was three games so then we knew that we could get a
-- that was no day off, but then there was two days
the week before and the week after.

RR: Meets that little special


exception there; right?

DS: Yup.

RR: Was there ever weeks where -- and


let me ask this before I ask that question --

DS: Uh-huh.

RR: I think you said before, did you


log the CARA logs?

DS: That was not me.

RR: Who was that?

DS: Whoever the head manager was at


the time handled the CARA logs.

RR: And how did they get the


information to log?

DS: From Kevin -- from our director


of ops.

RR: So would Kevin tell them how long


practices were, when the off days were, all of that
information?

DS: Yeah. So myself and Kevin


Freeman would work on the schedule. We would work it
up -- in years past, we would work up a month-by-month

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and send it to the, like, support staff. Now,
obviously, you're sending it out to everybody. But
we would send it out to the support staff so they
would have an idea of what the schedule was going to
look like. Obviously, that usually never really got
kept to line by line. There was always adjustments
to it.
Then our head manager would usually
coordinate with the strength coach and with Kevin
Freeman and figure out -- and, you know, make sure --
like they're the person who's responsible for getting
the players to where they have to be all the time.
So that was there. So that's why CARA was kind of
their kind of thing because they knew where the guys
were at all times.

RR: Was there ever a time where you


felt like -- did you ever -- well, let me ask this:
Did you ever see a CARA log after it was logged or --

DS: No.

RR: -- ever have to review that at


all?

DS: No.

RR: Was there ever weeks that you


felt like practice was going over how long it needed
to be to stay within the 20 hours?

DS: No. Going over how long it


needed to be, yeah. But not in terms of to stay
within the 20 hours.

RR: It's been reported to us that


during practice, the warm-up time --

DS: Uh-huh.

RR: So the beginning of practice --

DS: Uh-huh.

RR: That the managers were told not


to log that. Did you ever hear that or --

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DS: They didn't put it on the -- like
the daily schedule that they would do because it was
just a warm-ups, but it was part of still the CARA
because the guys had to be there. So in terms of
CARA, it was still a part of because the head
managers would always go off of what -- you know,
where the players needed to be not necessarily just
what was on their schedule for practice. So like
post-practice-, the coaches would always get a recap of
practice, and it would have what our schedule was for
the day. The warm-ups wouldn't be on there, but that
isn't what they put into CARA, if that makes sense.
That was -- it was two separate things, processes
that were going on.

RR: Okay. Do you know if they did


log the warm ups in CARA?

DS: I assume that they always did. I


know -- again, for the schedule, that was never part
of like the day-to-day schedule or, you know -- just
like what we wrote down for practice. But I know
that they were always told to go by what -- like when
the players needed to be there.

RR: Who told them that?

DS: That would be from compliance.


From Kevin Freeman. Like that was the conversations.
You know, if it's -- because our schedule would say,
you know, whatever, practice from 1:30 to 4:30, you
know, weights from 12:45 to 1:30. That's what they
would put into CARA from my understanding. It was
like it was based more on that than it was like
shaving ten minutes here or there.

RR: But you never saw the log --

DS: I never went through the logs.


But that was from my conversations with the head
managers. It was more like they just put the
schedule in.

RR: Okay.

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CS: Can you help us just understand
the CARA logging process. I know that the managers
did it, but was it a situation where there's a
schedule entered before the week or sometime in the
future, and this is what we intend to do this week,
and then they would come back and change it to show
this is what actually happened? Or was it just on
Monday practice went two hours, they would go in to
JumpForward and put two hours?

DS: From my understanding, again, I


wasn't totally a part of their process, it was always
post. It wasn't necessarily a -- like this is what
we are supposed to do and then I'm fixing it. It was
always, this is what happened on Monday. This is
what happened on Tuesday. This is what happened on
Wednesday.
So it would be like, okay, practice
was from 1:30 to 4:30, cool. Practice was from
whatever to whatever. That type of thing. It was
never a pre and a post.

CS: Were there -- how did a student


athlete find out about practice? Was it by text?

DS: Uh-huh. Text from the head


manager.

CS: Did -- this is a -- this is a


real, countable practice, not a captain's practice.
This is a --

DS: Yes, yeah. Similar setup.

CS: Would there be any sort of


e-mails or messages from the JumpForward system that
would go out to the coaching staff and to the student
athletes regarding practices from 1:30 to 3:30 or --

DS: No, it was always -- it was


always a text message. Those guys -- it was more
reliable to text the players than to ever e-mail
them.

CS: You talked about a recap that was


done each day. Who was in charge of that recap?

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DS: Head manager. That was whoever
was at the -- whoever was running the clock for
practice would use their phone and also would write
down and we would have a schedule. So it was more so
about what drills did we cover and how long did we
spend on each drill. So figure out like, all right,
we spent too much time on this drill. We spent
20 minutes on defense and 30 minutes on offense,
whatever.
So that's what that was for. And that
was, I guess, a better way to explain why coach -- we
never included the kind of warm-up period in that
because it didn't really count for anything. We
needed to -- we just wanted to know how long we were
spending on certain areas of the game.

CS: Who all got that recap?

DS: That would be the -- just the


coaching staff.

CS: The --

DS: Just like the drill-by-drill --

CS: Yeah.

DS: Like the (inaudible) was just


the coaching staff.

CS: Countable coaches only or --

DS: They would include myself, like


the support staff. Like myself, Kevin Freeman, Danny
Griffin.

CS: Travis Illian have gotten that?

DS: Yeah. I think he asked for them


maybe, but he would -- he -- I'm trying to think. I
don't know. I don't know I guess is the best answer
because his office was downstairs, so I don't know if
he worked out with to get his own copy.

CS: What was the form of that recap?

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Was it given in a -- a sheet to each person, or was
it an e-mail, text message?

DS: Sheet. A print out because it


would also include -- you would have the daily -- the
recap of the schedule of what we did that practice
plus whatever stats were kept for practice in terms
of whatever we did in different -- in each drill we
would try to keep stats, and that would be part of
it.

CS: And the head manager would do all


of that on his computer?

DS: Yeah. On the computer -- either


his own -- either his own computer, or one of the
computers in the workroom.

CS: You know if there's any file that


was kept with those recaps?

DS: Yeah. They used to sit on top of


the -- on top of the shelf, on top of like the little
case right there in the student workroom because I
needed it to go back and look at certain drills we
did and grab film for -- like just our practice, just
understanding the drills we did. So I've needed to
look back through the logs before.

CS: Can you give us a little more


clarity on where that file --

DS: The -- so the student workroom is


at the end of the hall. There's these two big, brown
cabinets. On top of them is usually a stack, and
they've kept the last couple of seasons, usually. I
think they've gotten thrown out once or twice before,
but I know I've used them in the past, usually for
the season they just build up. So they make an extra
copy, they print them off, copy it, and then just
drop the last one, whatever the most recent one is,
on the top.

CS: All right. Annie, anything?

AF: I'm just thinking about these --

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the recaps quick. Hold on one second. I lost my
train of thought. I'm trying to look at my notes
quick.
Oh, with the warm-ups -- that was my
question. With the warm-ups, what would those look
like? Would coaches be there for those, or was that
-- like who ran them? Players?

DS: It would be like Travis maybe --


not stretching them, but just kind of getting them
active maybe. Sometimes it was just the players.
The coaches could be maybe out there but not
necessarily -- just like sitting around kind of
waiting for the guys to be ready. That was for the
most part.

AF: Okay. And then -- but to your


understanding, those were counted from a CARA --

DS: Yes, from a CARA perspective, my


understanding is that those were always counted. The
recap, they were never counted.

AF: Thank you.

RR: Got you. Just to confirm -- I


think we talked about this before, but you never saw
the actual logs after to know?

DS: Correct. But from my


understanding in talking with the managers, it was
always like -- not counting the warm-ups, any type of
warm-up activity, guys getting shots, whatever, that
didn't really effect the CARA side of anything.

RR: Did the managers, do they time


practice?

DS: I guess just because they were


running that sheet, we knew -- they had a sheet of
like what time each drill started, so we knew how
long we had been going for.

RR: Got you. And I think you already


answered this, but just to confirm, so how would --
like the strength and conditioning coach. If

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practice was changed in a day or something like that,
where it was a longer practice or they needed to
switch around some workouts or stuff, how was that
communicated to them?

DS: Text. Everything was a text


message from -- usually from the head manager.

RR: Okay. Wanted to ask and see what


your recollection is. We've heard -- or it's been
reported to us that kind of in the past couple of
years after a loss, practice would be ramped up the
following week. To your recollection, is that
accurate?

DS: By ramped up, what do you mean?

RR: Well, I mean practice would be


longer or there would be more practices scheduled.
Something in that way.

DS: I mean, we would be -- we would


definitely practice harder and may even practice
longer but never -- you get -- like in the middle of
the season, you only have so much time, and the
players only have so much time between class and
tutoring and everything else. But after a loss,
yeah, we would definitely practice harder or practice
probably longer, but it was never -- again, always
within 20 hours, and always, you know, making sure
that they had an off day.

RR: Would you make those adjustments


or -- or who would be in charge of that?

DS: In terms of?

RR: If Coach Ollie or another coach,


they wanted to change the practice time, make it
longer after, you know, a game or something.

DS: We would always block out more


time than we ever needed for practice, in terms of
what the players' schedules looked like dealing --
and that was kind of Kevin Freeman's role, was
balancing, you know, what academics needed a tutor,

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all right, well, like we're going to always have more
time available for practice than what we actually
needed so that the players had enough time to
whatever -- however long we wanted to go for that
day, we still had enough time for them to go shower,
change, eat, and then do whatever else they were
going to have to do for academics or anybody else.

RR: Got you. So I guess my question


is: Is like if you had kind of a blocked out
schedule that you said y'all put together, but if
changes were needed during that week, if coach wanted
to change something --

DS: Uh-huh.

RR: -- who was in charge of making


sure that those changes kind of all fit together to
make sure it was in the 20 --

DS: Kevin Freeman.

RR: Okay.

DS: Again, but those -- like things


like that where changes were made, it was never we
don't have enough time in the block, if that makes
sense. We always blocked it out so we had plenty of
time so then -- you know, if we're doing everything
in a three-hour block every day, so that's six days of
practice a week, right at 18 hours, you know, okay
cool. So then anything we needed, we just knew. We
didn't really ever need more than that.

RR: Okay. Clint?

CS: Yeah. Just going back real fast.


Were meetings held pre-practice or most practice --
this is with the student athletes.

DS: Usually pre-practice. Sometimes


post-practice depending on what was going on.

CS: And that would be film breakdown


and --

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DS: Uh-huh.

CS: X and O talk?

DS: Yeah.

CS: Was a manager present during


those meetings?

DS: Sometimes. Sometimes not. Based


on -- usually based on class. And the last couple of
years, the managers -- they didn't want to be in
there. They weren't interested in the X and O side,
so they didn't really care to be in there at all.

CS: How would the managers, if you


know, become aware of how long those meetings lasted
so that they could put it into logs?

DS: Pre-practice, they would -- I


mean, you're waiting for the team to come out, so
they would always kind of mark down when we would go
in and when we would come out.
Post-practice -- you know, I'm trying
to think. Post-practice, they would always be around
any way because we had to come out -- everybody would
come out after like a scout session for the next
team, and then we would go eat, and the managers were
always around. So they would always, you know, be
there either way.

CS: Okay. Thanks.

RR: All right. Annie, did you have


any other follow-up, sorry, before I move on?

AF: Yeah. So with the CARA logs, the


head manager would do those and be responsible for
turning those in.

DS: Uh-huh.

AF: When there were changes, did


Kevin Freeman, do you know did he ever refer to those
and ask whoever the head manager was, you know, where
are we at with hours or have we had a day off already

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this week? Do you think those interactions happened
or what did those look like?

DS: I know that the day off per week


conversation would usually happen with me and him.
We didn't have to -- you know, we didn't have to go
to a head manager to make sure that we had -- the day
off during the week was definitely one that me and
him had.
In terms of the hours per week, I'm
not -- you know, that's for what him and the head
manager talked about, I guess.

AF: Okay. That's all. Thanks.

CS: I'm sorry. Just to go back, did


you ever have any conversations -- I guess at the
time it would have been Angie Cretors.

DS: Uh-huh.

CS: About the day off. To help


calculate, did you ever go to institutional
compliance or to Annie?

DS: No, it would be -- I mean, it


would be to Annie or to somebody else in their office
about hey, am I reading this right? Hey, is this
exactly what the rule was? I mean, I spent probably
-- she was probably annoyed with me with the amount
of time I would come over and ask clarifying
questions and stuff like that. So I never went to
Angie. I would always go to Annie or one of the
other people in that office.

CS: So you used compliance to help


make sure that you were meeting the off day
requirements?

DS: 100 percent.

CS: Okay.

RR: All right. I wanted to


transition here. I wanted to ask about an individual
by the name of Derrick Hamilton.

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DS: Okay.

RR: Do you remember Derrick?

DS: Yes, loosely.

RR: Who is -- I'm sorry?

DS: Loosely.

RR: Okay.

DS: I just remember he was up for a


little while, and then he was kind of gone.

RR: Got you. Can you tell us what


you recall about him? Who is he exactly?

DS: He was -- he was like a guy --


I'm trying to -- I don't remember where he was from.
I just remember that he was like a workout guy that
-- you know, I don't even remember how he got up to
-- how he came about. I just remember he was there.
He was known to be good with workouts and then he was
there for -- I don't remember a week, two weeks,
something like that, and then he was kind of gone.

RR: Got you. How many -- how many


years was he up there or did you -- do you recall
seeing him?

DS: I just remember the -- it was


like a brisk wind. He came and he went, and that was
the end of our -- my recollection. So it was just
like the one time. He was just there, he showed up,
he was hanging around the offices just talking to
everything, seemed like a nice guy, and then he left.

RR: Got you. Do you remember what


year that was?

DS: No. Not even -- I barely


remember him period until you said the name. No, I
do not remember what year it was.

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RR: Okay. Could that have been the
'15, '16 year possibly?

DS: So this is -- well, it was


definitely in -- it was like in a -- it was
definitely like off season. It was like a spring,
summer type -- because it wasn't cold. I don't know
why I remember this, but I remember it like not being
frigid. So I'm trying to think. '15, '16, so maybe
like in the off season before or the off season after
that year you're talking about. Could have been.
That sounds closer to that than it would be like '13.
That would definitely be fair.

RR: And it's okay if you can't --

DS: Yeah.

RR: -- exactly remember. Best


recollection. I completely get it.
When you say off season, do you mean
when school is still in session, just not during in
session time?

DS: That I don't -- I don't remember,


but it was in that like April, May, Junish area of
the year for us.

RR: Got you. And what would he do


while he was up there, do you remember?

DS: I just remember him like being


around the offices for a while, joking around with
everybody, and then, you know, that was really it. I
didn't really understand what he was up there for.

RR: Uh-huh.

DS: You know because also I remember


in the off season, I'm in and out, you know, not --
in season, there until 8:00, 9:00 o'clock, 7:00
clock, 6:00 o'clock, stuff like that. But off
season, it's 2:00, 3:00 o'clock and you're gone. I
just remember him kind of being around. I don't
remember anything specific about him to be honest.

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RR: Okay. Do you recall did you ever
hear about him having workouts or practice sessions
with players or student athletes?

DS: No.

RR: So I know probably the answer to


this next question, but I need to ask: Did you ever
see him have any --

DS: No.

RR: -- workout sessions -- sorry, let


me finish. Did you ever see him have any workout
sessions with student athletes?

DS: No, I didn't, no.

RR: Okay. Sorry. I wanted to


(inaudible) through the full question there.

DS: No, no worry.

RR: Did you ever talk to -- did any


of the players know him, do you remember, or --

DS: I don't remember.

RR: -- talk about him?

DS: I don't even remember asking the


players. I wouldn't have even thought to ask the
players if they like knew him or anything like that.

RR: Okay. Clint?

CS: Similar line. After Travis


Illian left, did you observe any strength and
conditioning workouts that the student athletes
participated in?

DS: Once Carlos Daniel got there, I


remember going to his, but that was it.

CS: Was there anything different


about Carlos Daniel's workouts than what Travis

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Illian had previously done?

DS: Yeah, they were better. He was


-- he knew the game better, so he could better have
them do movements that were more closely associated
with stuff you do basketball-wise. You know, jumps
to squats to jumps, things that were -- you know,
quick second jumps. Things that were more like --
everything he did was just about explosiveness. And
just thought -- Carlos played the game, knows the
game, so he definitely had more of a -- just stuff
with the medicine ball looked like more traditional
to a move that a basketball player would make much
more than Travis did.

CS: Let me just go right for the


jugular on this issue.

DS: Uh-huh.

CS: Did you ever see Carlos Daniel


providing a workout with a student athlete that
involved a basketball?

DS: No, it was always a -- everything


I saw was a medicine ball.

CS: Okay. Did you ever see him


providing any sort of basketball-like instruction
about how to post up or how to better do a crossover
dribble or anything like that?

DS: Carlos would talk to coaches


about what his thoughts were. He would come -- I
would talk to Carlos. Like I've heard Carlos talk
about things on the side. He would talk to coaches
after practice, hey, you guys should think to do
that. But I don't remember ever seeing Carlos do it
himself, no.

CS: Thanks.

RR: Do you know kind of the roles


surrounding a strength and conditioning coach, what
they can and cannot do as far as workouts and
instruction?

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DS: Roughly. I never really dove
into that because I didn't need to know it as well as
everything else. So I never really dealt with it.
But I knew he couldn't deal with -- he
couldn't do individual instruction. He couldn't do
stuff with a basketball, but besides that, I couldn't
tell you much.

RR: Okay. Got you. Anything else on


that?

CS: On strength and conditioning, no.

RR: Okay. Dave, wanted to ask -- and


I'm talking to you on a whole other -- I'm sorry to jump
around.

DS: It's all right.

RR: Wanted to talk about


.

DS: Uh-huh.

RR: Were -- you were still on staff


during his recruitment; correct?

DS: Uh-huh.

RR: Is that a yes?

DS: Yes. Sorry.

RR: Do you recall did he take an


official visit?

DS: Yes.

RR: Okay. Were you present for parts


of that official visit, or do you recall?

DS: Yeah, yes.

RR: What all did he do on that


official visit, do you remember?

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DS: I remember he was at the team --
we were in Hartford. He was at the hotel. And then
we had a dinner at Coach Ollie's house. That was all
I remember really from the -- we had a game. I
couldn't tell you what game.

RR: Got you. The dinner at coach


Ollie's house, who all was there?

DS: I think the whole -- I think the


whole team showed up and all the coaches. I think
that was everybody. I don't think anybody showed up
besides the team -- players and coaches.

RR: Got you. How did that dinner


run? Was there a program? Did y'all just eat? What
all did y'all do?

DS: We had a meeting -- we did our


meeting with him before the team got there to go over
kind of coach's vision for . And then the
team showed up, and we just had dinner, and that was
-- we were hanging out down in Coach Ollie's
basement. And that was -- there wasn't like a
program. It was just -- we just had food out on the
counter, and that was about it.

RR: Did -- was there ever a time that


met with Coach Ollie away from the team? Do
you recall that at all?

DS: I don't remember. I wouldn't --


I wasn't like paying attention to -- I'm sure when we
were downstairs, there was a lot of people -- sorry,
a lot of people, that they could have talked, I'm
sure.

RR: Okay. Did you ever see them --


did you ever see go to a side room to make a
call or anything like that?

DS: No. I wasn't -- again, I wasn't


paying attention to him that closely to know if he
did. He could have. I don't know.

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RR: Okay. Did -- it's been reported
to us that it was -- there was a FaceTime call set up
between and a couple of former student
athletes. Do you have any recollection of that?

DS: No. Once -- once all the players


got there, I -- you know, it didn't happen before
they got there. Once they got there, I don't have
any recollection of that.

RR: Okay.

CS: Did I ever hear Coach Ollie talk


about using former UConn players and alumni to help
recruit ?

DS: No.

CS: Do you know of any instance where


-- disregard that question. I forgot where I was
going with that one, so. Annie, anything? Help me
out here.

AF: So you just said that coach did


not ever talk about using former players to recruit
student athletes; is that correct?

DS: Not in front of me.

AF: Okay. I don't think I have


anything else.

RR: Dave, were you in all of the


staff meetings where they talked about visits? Were
you at all of those, I guess is the question?

DS: I mean, I was in all of the ones


I knew about, I mean, I guess. Official visits,
sure. But then again, he would meet with whoever was
recruiting that player individually. That would be
between the two of them, so I'm sure there's plenty
of things I'm not aware of.

RR: Okay. Wanted to --

AF: Sorry, one more --

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RR: Yeah.

AF: I'm sure you were in some of our


educational meetings last year when we talked about
how the rule changed with the use of former players
on visits to be able to have an arranged meeting with
prospects --

DS: Uh-huh.

AF: Do you remember that?

DS: Yes, I do.

AF: So after that point in time, was


there any discussion potentially of utilizing any of
our players?

DS: Well, yeah, I guess after --


especially immediately after that meeting. But that
was -- I'm trying to think. That was fairly close to
when I left. I don't remember when that was. But
yeah, after that point. I guess I was thinking more
towards when it wasn't allowed.

AF: Yeah, after.

DS: But once --

AF: Because I think it was adopted


last April, potentially.

DS: Yeah.

AF: Or towards the end of last year.

DS: Yup.

AF: Yeah, during the end of the


academic year, I guess I would say.

DS: Uh-huh.

AF: What kinds of things did they


talk about related to ways that they might use them?

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DS: We were talking about having --
trying to find a way to connect more with the former
players and getting them on campus and trying to tie
a weekend event of former NBA guys on campus with a
recruiting weekend so that we could kind of target a
weekend that would make sense for us to bring in
recruits and then for us to bring in the NBA players
so that, you know, we could use the rule to our
advantage. But that conversation kind of went off
the rails pretty quick, so I don't think anything
really came of it.

AF: Got you. Okay. Thanks.

RR: And those conversations you're


talking about, that's all related to the change --

DS: Yes.

RR: -- in legislation that you can


have people on campus -- former student athletes on
campus?

DS: Yeah. So I was -- I guess I was


still going off -- using the FaceTime idea. But
yeah, we never really talked about doing that. We
talked about taking the new rule to our advantage and
trying to figure out a way to make it work. But that
conversation went nowhere, so.

RR: Okay. Clint?

CS: I've got nothing else on that.

RR: Okay. Dave, I'm going to jump


again.

DS: You're good.

RR: I'm sorry. And I think Clint


mentioned this before, but I want to talk about Danny
Griffin.

DS: Uh-huh.

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RR: What was Danny's role on the
staff?

DS: He was the director of player


development, and he was kind of a catchall for
everything off-the-court-wise in the player's lives.
And coaches tried to utilize him as a -- you know, a
resource based on his different varying backgrounds
that he had, in terms of running different businesses
and having different careers. You know, so kind of
trying to get them to understand that there's more
than just basketball out there, and have him try to
help with some of that.

RR: Was Danny on campus a lot, or did


he travel?

DS: Yeah, he would travel. I mean,


he was in and out quite a bit for sure.

RR: Got you. Where -- was he from


somewhere else?

DS: He's from Los Angeles.

RR: Okay.

DS: So I think he still runs a lot of


business out there, so he would say he's heading back
to, you know, run his business and had to catch up
and had some family illnesses as well.

RR: All right. It's been reported to


us that Danny Griffin would make recruiting calls to
PSAs, primarily on the west coast. Did you ever hear
that or witness that?

DS: No. He would never call a PSA.

RR: Did you ever hear a coach from


UConn ask Danny to make a call to a PSA or to their
coach or anyone?

DS: No.

RR: Okay. Did you -- did Danny ever

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participate in any coaching activity that you know of
or recall?

DS: By coaching activity, like on


court?

RR: Did you ever see him on court?

DS: No.

RR: Would he ever provide feedback to


student athletes or give them instruction?

DS: Again, more like Carlos, like he


would give feedback to the coaches on things that he
thought they should do, but I never saw him give
feedback directly to a player.

RR: Okay. Clint?

CS: Do you know if Danny Griffin ever


attended any basketball practice or games of a
student athlete when he went back to the LA area?

DS: Not that I know of.

CS: What was Danny Griffin's role in


recruiting meetings?

DS: More like what he had heard from


people he knew in LA. He would tell, you know,
whatever people he talked to, whether that's, you
know, a friend that was -- he would talk to like
friends of -- he was always like three people removed
from anything. So it was my friend talked to this
friend talked to this guy who talked to that guy who
said this kid is a really good recruit, that type of
thing.
So it was always like he -- I think
through his -- like the businesses he owned, he just
knew a lot of people in the area, so like people
would just call him and tell him, hey, take a look at
this kid, take a look at that kid. That was much
more -- he would come up with stuff like that pretty
much.

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CS: Did Danny Griffin ever take
particular interest in any prospective student
athlete? And by that, I mean was encouraging Coach
Ollie to pursue that PSA harder or wanting to do more
to try to get him to UConn?

DS: Anybody on the west coast he was


-- you know, like the kids off of the west coast, he
just, you know, thought we should recruit.

CS: Do you --

DS: Everybody out of California, so


it wasn't -- like that's -- I don't know what his --
I never felt like his ties to any one recruit off the
west coast were so strong that like -- like he had a
personal connection to anybody. He just wanted us to
be like UCLA east. Like it was more like everybody
off the west coast he thought was like -- like we
should recruit. And he would always like push, you
know, oh, this kid I heard, this kid I heard, this
kid I heard. I mean, it was similar with most of the
assistants, which they just like deal with the
recruit. Danny was much more like I heard this, I
heard that. It was a very like -- nothing was ever
really solid, like I know this or I know that.

CS: Did you ever hear Danny Griffin


say I talked to student athlete -- prospective
student athlete so-and-so?

DS: No.

CS: Did you ever hear him say that he


had talked to any parent of a prospective student
athlete?

DS: No.

CS: What about a coach of a


prospective student athlete?

DS: No. Everything I remember with


Danny was very like: I heard this, I heard from
so-and-so, I heard from the barber. You know, it was
always like very like -- kind of very fluff. There

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was never really anything like, I talked to the dad,
and he said X. I don't remember anything like that.

CS: Russell touched on this, and I'm


sorry if you're going to hit this later, we talked
about Danny Griffin providing instruction. Did you
ever observe any other non-countable coach providing
instruction to student athletes during the course of
a practice?

DS: No.

CS: All right. That's all I've got


on that, Russell. Annie, any follow-ups?

AF: I don't think so. Thanks.

RR: Did you ever hear did any PSAs


reach out to Danny? Do you recall that at all?

DS: No.

RR: Would he have told you if they


did --

DS: No, Danny wouldn't have told me


absolutely anything. So that -- he was not coming to
me with -- talking to me very much at all.

RR: Got you. Did y'all have a close


relationship or not really?

DS: Not really. He kind of looked


down on me as the video guy. So he was like player
development, and he wanted to do his own thing, so we
rarely talked.

RR: Okay. I guess that's context. I


appreciate that. Thanks.

DS: Yeah.

RR: Anything further on that?

AF: Sorry, I have one quick thing.

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RR: Go ahead, Annie.

AF: Russell, I don't know if you were


going to go here, but, Dave, what do you recall
Danny's involvement being as it relates to visits?
Like official (unintelligible)?

DS: Well, like official he would do


like the on-campus recruiting part of the job that
he's allowed to do in terms of -- he would give a
tour. He would -- you know, if the kid was bored --
like during practice, he would be able to get them
from meeting to meeting on campus, stuff like that.
Get them to meals. Like get them around the schedule
when the coaches were busy with -- you know, whether
it was a practice or a scout or whatever.

AF: Okay. Thanks.

RR: Do you recall whether Danny


helped with logistics as far as visits, like
directions to parents or to student athletes, PSAs
coming to campus?

DS: Not that I remember or would


trust him to do, to be honest, but that's just me.

RR: Do you recall would Danny attend


practice?

DS: Sometimes.

RR: Sometimes?

DS: You know, he was in and out.


Sometimes he would come in and then he would go out
and come back. Sometimes he wouldn't. It was hit or
miss.

RR: Got you. Wanted to ask about a


different individual, Boo Willingham. Do you know
Boo?

DS: I know who he is, yup.

RR: Okay. Who is Boo, that you know?

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DS: That I know is a former player
from the, whatever, early/mid-90s. Played with coach
and Ray Allen in that era of UConn. That's about it.

RR: Got you. Would you ever see him


around or --

DS: Yeah, he would come and go. I


know him and Coach Ollie were close, so he would come
to -- you know, he would be at games. Coach would
see him after the game. You would see him in the
hallway sometimes just -- I'm trying to think if I --
that was about it.

RR: Got you. Would you ever see him


like in the offices or --

DS: Yeah, for sure. He would come up


to the office, you know, every once in a while. More
so he would be around for a game or so. He would
come up, I think, when he was in the area. I think
he would come and go. Sometimes you would see him
for a couple of weeks in a row, and then sometimes
you wouldn't see him for a month.

RR: Got you. So just in and out?

DS: Yeah.

RR: You said that you saw him at


games every now and again?

DS: Yeah.

RR: Or sometimes?

DS: Uh-huh.

RR: Did you ever see him during those


events talking to prospects that were attending or --

DS: Not that I know of, no.

RR: Were you around to be able to see


if he was?

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DS: Probably not. You know, again,
on game day, I definitely wasn't paying attention to
Boo, so -- but, you know, he was -- he would be
around. He would be in coaches' seats. He would be
behind the bench. You know, he would be talking to
coach's family, stuff like that. That's about it
that I saw.

RR: Do you recall did Boo ever talk


to the staff about a particular prospect or anything,
do you remember?

DS: No, no. Definitely never heard


him talking about recruits or anything like that.

RR: Okay. Did Boo ever accompany a


PSA on a -- on a visit, either unofficial or
official?

DS: Not that I remember.

RR: Okay. Clint?

CS: Do you recall seeing Boo on


campus during a recruiting weekend when PSAs were
also on campus?

DS: I couldn't tell you, to be -- I


didn't remember Boo coming and going like that, but
we have recruits up a lot, so I wouldn't be able to
tell you one way or another if he was there during
the same time. I mean, I'm sure he was, but we have
recruits up that often, but, I don't remember
specifically.

CS: Men's basketball staff had


recruiting meetings?

DS: Uh-huh.

CS: Was Boo ever mentioned in those


about relationships he might have with a player or
how he could be involved with helping get a
prospective student athlete to UConn?

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DS: Not that I remember.

CS: That's it. Annie, anything?

AF: No, nothing else.

RR: Dave, wanted to ask you about an


AAU coach by the name of Munch Williams.

DS: Uh-huh.

RR: Do you know Munch?

DS: Yeah.

RR: What's -- or how do you know


Munch?

DS: Munch is the


. He
runs a very successful program.

RR: Did he have any connection to any


student athletes at UConn?

DS: Yes. He was the for --


I'm trying to think previously, but I know for
.

RR: Do you recall ever seeing Munch


on campus?

DS: Uh-huh. I think he


, maybe. He might .
But, yeah, he had been up a couple of times. I'm
trying to remember when, but I don't particularly
remember. But he's been up a couple of times. I
would say two or three times.

RR: What was he there to do whenever


he came up?

DS: Usually, I would be -- I think he


came up once because he was going to watch one of his
prospective -- you know, he was trying to get a kid,
and so he was going to see his high school game, and

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he was in the area, so he stopped by the office. I
think he came up for a game one time. And I'm trying
to think of the other reason why he may have been up.
But it was just like he would pop up -- I don't think
it was a far drive. I think he was in the area for
stuff usually.

RR: Did you ever have any


conversations with him or --

DS: Yeah, just general talk about,


you know, how the -- his program was going, how --
you know, things like that.

RR: Got you. Did you ever -- did he


have any close relationships with anybody on the
coaching staff, do you recall? Or a primary coach
that he might go to?

DS: He -- originally, I think it was


Ricky would talk to him, but then I know him and
Dwayne Killings were close, and Coach Ollie says he
was close with him too.

RR: Got you. Did -- did you ever see


-- during that time did Dwayne or Ricky, did they
take Munch to dinner, anything like that, do you
recall?

DS: Not that I remember.

RR: Okay. Did you ever get the


feeling or ever hear a conversation that -- or was it
ever talked about, I guess, in the coaching staff
that you remember that, you know, we've got to, you
know, do things for Munch because he's -- he's got
some players that we might need? Was that ever
mentioned that you recall?

DS: No. It was more like, you've got


-- I don't remember it like that. I remember it more
like, you know, we've got to build a good
relationship with Munch much more than -- because he
has good players with his program and out of
. But it was much more like, you know, not do
things for Munch. Indicating something else, no, I

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don't remember anything like that. It was much more
like we have really got to stay close with him. He's
a good guy. You know, we need -- that's a strong
area for us to recruit.

RR: How was it suggested, you know,


that coaches build a relationship with him?

DS: Just -- I don't think it ever


went past that point of like you just call him and
talk to him, check in, go to his events, things like
that.

RR: And who was that that was saying


to do that?

DS: Coach Ollie to everybody, really.

RR: So in that -- in the same line of


these type questions, I want to ask, do you recall
was it ever mentioned in staff meetings or did anybody
ever say, you know, coaches need to kind of take some
AAU coaches to dinner or get to know them kind of,
you know, show them some support? Do you ever
remember that ever coming up?

DS: No. No. Sorry, I don't remember


that coming up, no.

RR: Okay. Was it ever mentioned to


-- for coaches to try to build relationships with AAU
coaches?

DS: Yeah. Absolutely. You know,


coach encouraged, obviously, for everybody to, you
know, strengthen the relationships you have and try
to build new ones with people. You know, certain
coaches had certain relationships that were stronger
than others, so it was always important to keep those
alive.

RR: When Coach Ollie would mention


that, did he ever say -- again, I think I've asked
this question, but I just want to clarify. Did he
ever say how to build those relationships or what
coaches should do in that?

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DS: No, that never really came up.

RR: Did he ever ask you, though, to


build a relationship with any AAU coaches?

DS: No.

RR: Okay. Okay.

CS: When the basketball team


travelled, do you know if assistant coaches went out
with AAU coaches?

DS: No. I mean, once we got to a


city, I don't know. Once we were like done for the
night with whatever we had to do, I don't know what
they may or may not have done in terms of like going
out with people. If they went out like to an event,
like recruiting, that would obviously fall under --
there was a couple of times that would happen, but
you would plan your recruiting trip based on where we
were going to go. But in terms of like who people
grabbed drinks with and stuff like that, I have no
idea.

CS: Did you ever hear men's


basketball staff members complain about having to go
have drinks or have dinner with any AAU coaches?

DS: No, not that I remember.

CS: All right. Thanks.

RR: Annie, did you have any follow-up


there?

AF: No follow-up, thanks.

RR: Okay. Dave, we're getting


towards the end so --

DS: No worries.

RR: Wanted to ask about like PSAs


coming on unofficial visits.

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DS: Uh-huh.

RR: Was there ever a time where a PSA


wanted to work out or do anything and the institution
issued them gear to be able to do that? Do you
recall that ever happening?

DS: No. No, not really.

RR: Was there ever a process for that


or a need for a process for that?

DS: No, I don't think there was a


process. On officials if a player was going to go
through a workout of some kind, we would give the
gear and take it back. Again, the head managers
would work with the equipment guy and get stuff and
bring it back just so that they could run through a
workout or something like that.

RR: And that was my next question, so


thank you for leading me right there.

DS: Oh, no problem.

RR: So on official visits, how often


would that happen where --

DS: Rarely.

RR: -- a PSA was going to run a workout?

DS: Not very often. Most of the


time, obviously, the coaches had seen the player play
enough that they didn't need to like put them through
a workout of any kind. But -- I don't even remember,
but not often.

RR: And I think you just mentioned


it, but just to clarify for the record, who was in
charge of issuing that gear?

DS: Equipment guy -- our equipment


manager and our head manager would work in
coordination to get the kid the gear and then take it

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back right after the workout was over.

RR: Was there a log that was kept, or


do you know?

DS: Not that I know of.

RR: Was there ever a time where a


manager didn't take that -- get that gear back and
turn it back in?

DS: Not that I know of. I -- we were


always pretty serious about that. We weren't just
going to give out gear on official visits. We were
going to take that back pretty quick.

RR: Was there anybody that had


oversight of checking to make sure that the manager
did that or --

DS: I mean, Kevin Freeman would ask,


would always double check. That was my, you know,
best recollection. That would be kind of his area.

RR: Okay. Got you. So Kevin was


kind of over making sure that the managers were
following that process?

DS: Uh-huh.

RR: Is that a yes?

DS: Yes.

RR: Got you. Wanted to ask about --


let me go back to unofficial visits.

DS: Uh-huh.

RR: Was there ever opportunities


where PSAs would come for -- just to watch practice?

DS: Yeah. Sure.

RR: After practice, does the team


have a catered meal?

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DS: Yeah.

RR: Is that a pretty regular


occurrence?

DS: Yeah. For the team to have a


meal?

RR: Uh-huh.

DS: Yeah. Every -- pretty much every


practice.

RR: Was there ever a time where a PSA


there on unofficial visit would go with the team up
for that meal?

DS: Not that I remember. I remember


we discussed it, how much it would cost when -- like
if they were going to have that meal, how much would
it cost for them to pay for it, especially on an
unofficial. But I don't remember it ever really
happening. Only official visits would they ever have
the meal.

RR: On the -- you said official?

DS: Official. The post-practice would


be like the meal that they have before -- like the
meal that we're providing for lunch or whatever, and
then they would leave.

RR: Do you ever recall a PSA going --


after watching practice with the team going up to
them with the meal on an unofficial visit?

DS: No.

RR: How was that meal laid out? I


guess like if you could, help me visualize it.

DS: It was a buffet -- like it would


be like three serving stations with whatever it would
be that day. Usually a meat and a fish and a side of
something, pasta or potatoes, and there would be some

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drinks and some salad. There would be somebody from
the catering company there and usually one of the
managers is up there just to keep track of
everything.

RR: Got you. Would the coaches go up


there too?

DS: Yeah. We would be up there.

RR: Were you -- did you go -- every


time that there was a visit were you there or --

DS: No. I would go -- usually, I


would go early and get out before everybody else,
players and coaches came. So I would be back in the
office working. I would hang out sometimes with the
coaches if it was just us. But when we had visits, I
tried to stay away from -- stay away from the
prospects and the hoopla that was going on with it.

RR: Got you. Clint?

CS: Yeah, only follow-up question


I've got is who was the equipment manager that would
give out the equipment?

DS: Chris Stasaitis. I don't know


how to spell the last name.

RR: That's okay.

DS: Annie, can you help me out with


that?

AF: I can look it up.

DS: Because I've got nothing.


There's a lot of Ss and Ts. That's all I've got.

AF: He's still equipment manager, so


I can send you the name if we need it.

CS: All right. And was he the


equipment manager the entire time you were --

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DS: Once we went to the facility, I
don't remember who that was. But then -- who was it
before? Dan --

AF: Dan?

DS: Yeah, Dan was when we were in


Gampel. So Dan Glinski was the first couple of
years, and then it's kind of evenly split, I guess,
for my time.

CS: Okay. Is Dan still a staff


member there, Annie?

AF: Yeah, he's the head of our


equipment --

CS: Okay.

AF: -- room.

CS: All right. That's all I've got


on that.

RR: Okay. I just have some final


questions about compliance. Clint, did you have some
other topic areas that you --

CS: Yeah. You had a relationship --


close relationship with than you
did with other student athletes is what you said earlier;
right?

DS: Uh-huh.

CS: It's been reported to us that


Ricky Moore provided money to
during his recruitment. Have you ever heard that
before?

DS: No.

CS: It was also reported to us that


there's a general rumor on the team that this
happened. Have you ever heard that rumor?

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DS: No. I never even heard that.

CS: So that's all I've got on that.

RR: Dave, just wanted to ask you


about Coach Ollie's kind of approach to -- you've
talked a lot about kind of your relationship with
compliance --

DS: Uh-huh.

RR: And I think you've mentioned


that, you know, you had a pretty good relationship,
that you felt like you could go over there and ask
questions. What was Coach Ollie -- like did he ever
talk about compliance? What was his, kind of his
message as far as compliance?

DS: He -- I'm trying to think. He


was always very direct. I think he wanted to -- he
was always making sure that we followed the rules,
and he would very much want an understanding as
quickly as possible was usually his message.
He wanted to understand, and he would
very often ask, about what other schools were doing.
He wanted to know what kind of -- not just the
message that Annie and Angie and whoever else was
giving us, but like what are we hearing elsewhere.
And he would ask them that as well, kind of what --
so what's like the -- what's everybody looking at?
What's the whole country looking at from this
perspective, in terms of recruiting, in terms of --
obviously with a lot of stuff now coming out, but
that kind of stuff was rumored about on the circuit
for a long time.
And so he would often ask those
questions of compliance, hey, what are we hearing
from -- what's everybody else hearing? What's
everybody else doing in terms of this type of rule?
How are -- you know, how are they handling this?
That was always kind of his message, try to
understand. Make sure that we were never really
competitively behind, but also make sure that we're
following the rules.

RR: Got you. Did he ever have

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compliance meetings with y'all as a staff or go over
different things compliance related?

DS: We would -- recruiting days was


the big one. We would meet biweekly starting a
couple of years ago. A lot -- you know, compliance
for a couple of years had monthly meetings that a lot
of us would go to. So that was kind of his -- that
was what we did compliance-wise.
And then on rare occasions -- I'm
trying to think maybe -- it usually came up maybe
once a year or something. He would ask compliance to
come over and teach us about one thing or another.
There was always like something that was new that we
wanted to make sure that we were doing the right way.
And that would come up rarely, and they would come
over and talk to us.

RR: Did he encourage the staff if


they had questions to reach out to compliance?

DS: Yeah.

RR: And did you feel that you could


easily reach out to compliance and get help?

DS: Absolutely. What did you think?

AF: Yes, we heard from you a lot.

RR: How was Coach Ollie's


relationship with compliance. Did he ever ask
questions or reach out to them?

DS: He usually went -- I don't know


if he reached out directly at any point. I think he
would reach out to -- I think he would reach out more
to Angie. I don't know what it's been like lately.
But he was usually -- when we were in
the office, any time it would come up, it was like,
go over there and find out. So it was much more
like, hey, find out. Especially, you know,
eligibility-related and all of that type of stuff,
like go over there and ask the questions, go find out
and come back.
And then he would get -- when he would

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get involved, I think him and Angie would talk fairly
regularly.

RR: Very good. Do you have any


questions about this?

CS: Yeah, just on general compliance.


You said that Kevin invited institutional compliance
over one time a year. Was there more compliance
education than just that?

DS: Yeah, I mean, there was the


biweekly meetings that we would do about eligibility
updates, and they would do rules education. That
last -- that was the last, I want to say, year and a
half, two years. Monthly, we would do the full staff
rules ed, and then it was just like on an as-needed
basis they would come over and kind of talk to the
staff if there was something that we needed. It just
seemed like that was around once a year. It wasn't
like a regularly scheduled thing.

CS: Okay. Did institutional


compliance cover topics involving permissible
recruiting activities?

DS: Absolutely.

CS: Did institutional compliance


cover topics regarding what was and was not CARA?

DS: Yup.

CS: About off days?

DS: Absolutely.

CS: Did institutional compliance


provide education regarding what a non-countable
coach could and could not do as far as giving
instruction to student athletes?

DS: Yes.

CS: It's been reported to us that you


were in charge of documenting rules ed for the men's

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basketball program. Is that -- someone threw you
under the bus.

DS: What did we do? We had the


biweekly meetings. We had a weekly sign in, I
believe compliance kept those. I would work with
Larib, who is Coach Ollie's administrative assistant,
to keep his folder, which compliance taught us about
having for head coach responsibility. So I would
just have everybody sign a sheet and give it to her.
But yeah, I didn't keep it myself, but I guess I
would give it to her to keep for Coach Ollie.

CS: Did you ever draft any documents


that would go in to that folder regarding what
compliance efforts were being done for rules ed?

DS: No.

CS: Do you know if any documents were


drafted by anybody that might say, you know, today we
covered A, B, C?

DS: Not really. Larib would know --


like if it was stuff for head coach responsibility to
show that we met on something, I kind of would -- I
never drafted anything for that, but I would give it
-- I would let Larib know if it came up.

CS: Okay. That's all I've got.


Annie?

AF: I'm all set. Thanks.

RR: Okay. Dave, have you talked with


anybody about your interview with us today?

DS: Just the -- like friends and


family. You know, I let the coaches know that I was
having this interview.

RR: What coaches is that?

DS: On the staff, the -- Dwayne and


Kevin and Kevin.

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RR: What all -- what did you talk
with them about?

DS: I just said, hey, I got called.


I'm meeting them Wednesday at -- you know, it was
actually Wednesday before we knew when, but I was
just like, hey, I got a meeting on Wednesday. That's
about it. Just letting them know that you guys
called me, and I was going to have the meeting.

RR: Did they say anything back to you


or --

DS: Tell the truth. We're going to


be fine. Don't worry about it. That type of thing.

RR: Okay. Has anyone contacted you


about your interview with us today other than me?

DS: No.

RR: Okay. And the conversations that


you had with your friends and family, is that just
what was -- what were those -- the context of that, I
guess?

DS: Same. Just like, hey, got


called. This is coming up. Got a meeting. Got to
get there, you know, on Wednesday, and then I got --
heading out tomorrow. So that was just about it.

RR: Dave, other than everything that


we've talked about today, is there anything that
during your time at UConn with the men's basketball
program, was there anything that gave you pause or
didn't sit well with you? Anything that caused you
to think that it might not be permissible?

DS: Not really. I mean, I felt like


we were doing things the right way. And obviously
through the FBI investigation, we've realized that a lot
of people weren't, so that was about the feeling
we had. I had had conversations with Annie about
like that idea that like we were kind of doing things
one way, and nobody else was really working on that
same path, but I always felt like we were doing

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things, you know, in the way that they're supposed to
be.

RR: Okay. Clint?

CS: I've got nothing else.

RR: Annie, any final --

AF: Nothing over here. Thanks.

RR: Okay. Well, Dave, I thank you


for taking time to talk with us today. Appreciate
that. And I do have a -- last few things to cover
with you.

DS: Uh-huh.

RR: Just about confidentiality.

DS: Okay.

RR: Okay. So before we conclude, do


you have anything you would like to add or clarify to
what we've talked about?

DS: No. I actually did want to ask


if I could get the -- you had asked -- you had said
before I could get a copy of the voice recording.

RR: Yes. Is your -- is that e-mail


the best way to --

DS: Yeah.

RR: So what we'll do is -- it takes


our transcriptionist about two weeks, but the
recording we can send to you pretty quick.

DS: Okay.

RR: What I'll do is -- our assistant


coordinator Jessica Doriot who sent you the
form that you signed off on --

DS: Yeah.

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RR: -- she'll send you a
confidentiality agreement.

DS: Uh-huh.

RR: And that just states that you


won't share that with anybody.

DS: Okay.

RR: And so once you sign off on that,


then she'll release the recording to you.

DS: Got it.

RR: Okay. The last thing I need to


tell you is that NCAA legislation requires that you
help protect the integrity of this investigation;
therefore, as the investigation continues, you are
not permitted to speak with others about what we
discussed today or any information related to this
investigation, and that includes -- because I know
you're taking notes, Dave, that includes your notes
as well.

DS: Okay.

RR: Except that you may speak with


your personal legal counsel if you choose to retain
them, others present in the room, and myself.
Failure to protect the integrity of this
investigation could result in an allegation that you
violated the principles of ethical conduct and/or the
cooperative principle. So do you understand those
statements?

DS: Yup.

RR: Okay. At some point after the


NCAA completes its investigation, someone else
involved as a party in this case or their attorney,
legal counsel, or representative may request to
interview you about matters related to this case, and
we encourage you to agree to speak with them just as
you've agreed to speak with us. That may or may not

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even happen, but my next statement is that doesn't
include any members of the media, so we ask that you
not speak to media. If anyone ever does reach out to
you, please let me know. I'm happy to let you know
if that's someone, you know, who was involved as a
party in the case or not.

DS: Got it.

RR: So yes, if you have any


questions, please feel free to contact me. You have
my contact information. Would ask -- I know that you
stated before that you let the coaches know that
you're interviewing today.

DS: Uh-huh.

RR: We ask that you don't reach back


out to them --

DS: Okay.

RR: -- and talk about what we've


talked about. And if they do reach out, just decline
to comment.

DS: Okay.

RR: Do you have any final questions


for me, sir?

DS: Nope.

RR: All right. Then I'll note for


the record that the interview concluded at 11:25 a.m.
Eastern Time. Thank you, sir.

DS: Thank you.

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INTERVIEW OF
UNIVERSITY OF CONNECTICUT
JANUARY 23, 2018

RR: Tuesday, January 23rd, 2018, and


I am in , . For the purpose of
voice identification, I'd like to ask each person in
the room and on the phone to state their name and
title. And we will start with you.

student
athlete, High School.

VP: Vickie Podberesky, attorney


for Mr.

RR: Brian?

BK: Brian Kappel, outside counsel for


the University of Connecticut.

LS: Lisa Scott for the NCAA.

KS: Kathy Sulentic, Associate


Director of Enforcement with the NCAA.

RR: And I'm Russell Register one of


the Assistant Directors with Enforcement with the
NCAA. I'd like to note that this interview is being
recorded by myself and the institution. Before going
on the record I asked and his counsel if it
was okay to record today's interview, and he stated
that it was; is that correct?

It is.

VP: Yes.

RR: I did want to note on the record


that we have verbal agreement with the institution to
keep the recording confidential for student Division
bylaw 19.5.8, and they agree not to share the
recording -- their recording with any third party.
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BK: It is. Thank you.

RR: Thank you. Prior to going on the


record, we gave you a form entitled the NCAA
Interview Notice Form. Did you have a chance to read
this form?

I did read it.

RR: Okay. Do you understand that the


purpose of the interview is to determine whether you
have any knowledge of or involvement in any violation
with the NCAA legislation?

Yes.

RR: Do you understand that you may be


represented by personal legal counsel during the
interview and you (inaudible).

Uh-huh.

RR: Is that a yes?

Yes.

RR: Okay. Do you understand the NCAA


bylaw 10.1 obligates you to provide truthful and
complete information in this interview?

Yes, sir.

RR: Okay. Do you understand that if


it's ever determined that you provided false or
misleading information or withheld information in
this interview, this could constitute violation of
the NCAA principle of ethical conduct and could
impact your eligibility as a student athlete?

Yes.

RR: Do you understand that


information provided during this interview may be
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Yes.

RR: Okay. Do you have any questions


regarding any part of the interview notice form?

No.

RR: Did you sign and date this form?

Yes.

RR: Okay. Great. Thanks for


sticking with me with that. Appreciate it. All
right, . First question, we talked about it,
let's just put this on the record. Where are you
currently going to high school?

I go to high school in --
I go to High School in .

RR: Great. And what year are you


there?

I'm a .

RR: Okay. Perfect. What is a good


phone number to contact you at, ?

RR: Okay. And what's a good e-mail


address for you?

at (unintelligible).
is .org.

RR: Awesome. So I just want to talk


about -- I know you had several schools that
recruited you. What were some of your top schools
that were recruiting you -- that you were interested
in?

RR: That's a great list. Awesome.



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Awesome. So what schools were in your top five?


Which were the ones that you really were considering?

and

RR: Gotcha. So what schools have you


decided on?

RR: Have you signed live with them or


have you verbally committed?

I signed a nonbinding agreement.

RR: Gotcha. Perfect. So what was


the signing factor on ?

My relationship was better than


all the other schools and they were there for me
after I had surgery and they called me every single
day (unintelligible).

RR: Okay.

KS: When did you have surgery,


?

KS: What was it?

It was -- it's called

KS: That's scary.

Yeah. It wasn't really like an


injury because I was walking and running fine. So
that was more frustrating because I couldn't play.

RR: So were you recruited by the


University of Connecticut?

To school?



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RR: By the University of Connecticut.


Did they recruit you?

Yes, they did.

RR: Okay. And who -- what timeframe


did that take place would you say?

probably I would say,


-- I don't know. Probably
say

RR: So that was during your junior


year. Is that a yes?

Yes.

RR: Okay. So during that time, who


was your recruiting coach from Uconn?

Coach Ricky Moore.

RR: And how often did y'all


communicate?

I wouldn't say we communicated as


often as other schools, but it was probably around
once a week. Once or twice a week. I'm not sure
with my parents.

RR: And how did you and Coach Moore,


how did y'all communicate? Was it through phone
call? A text?

Phone call or casual text.

RR: Did you speak to anyone else from


the University of Connecticut?

Yeah. Player development guy.


What's his name? I forgot his name. African
American.

RR: Can I show you a picture?



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Sure.

RR: I just want to note for the


record that I'm showing a picture with the
title Enforcement Exhibit 1 an individual.

Yes. Yeah. That's him.

RR: His name is Danny Griffin?

Danny Griffin, yeah.

RR: So that's who you spoke with


before?

Gosh I --

RR: And how often did you talk with


Danny?

Not that often. (Unintelligible).


One of my visits, he was there walking around the
campus, on the tour. I felt like I had a good
relationship with him.

RR: Did he ever call you before your


visit?

No.

RR: Did he ever call you after that?

No. (Unintelligible).

RR: Did he ever speak with your


parents? Did he ever call them?

Probably.

RR: What made you think that he did?

Because him and my dad -- I'm


pretty sure he called my dad. I know he had his
number, but I don't know if he called him. They have
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RR: How --

He's like ten minutes away from


my house so.

RR: How do they know each other?

The visit.

RR: So when you say -- do you think


that Danny talked with your dad after the visit
possibly?

After the visit.

RR: Do you recall -- I'm just trying


to narrow it down. Do you recall knowing for sure
that they did speak?

I don't know for sure, no.

RR: Do you recall any conversations


that they had, or did your dad tell you about any
conversations that he and Danny had?

He didn't tell me any


conversations.

RR: Did -- and just to clarify for


the record, so the first time that you spoke with
Danny Griffin was on your visit?

Yes.

RR: Okay. You never spoke with him


before that visit?

Not that I know of, no.

RR: Okay. And then after your visit,


did y'all ever speak or text?

Maybe. No. Maybe had


communication with Coach Ricky Moore.

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about your recruitment by Uconn. Was there anything


about the university? What was it that you decided
not to continue with that recruitment?

Too cold. Too far from home.

RR: That's a big change?

Yes. For sure.

RR: Gotcha. I want to -- and you


have already mentioned this about your visit that you
took. Do you remember when that took place?

It was October. October. I


don't know, like, what day in October.

RR: Was that of

yes.

RR: Okay. So the fall of your junior


year?

Yes.

RR: Of high school. Great. Can you


kind of walk me through just how that did? How long
were you on campus? When did you get there? What
did you do while you were on campus?

We stayed the whole weekend


there. Took a red-eye down there. Had breakfast.
Then we ended up going to -- I want to say we went to
practice first. We went to practice first. And
after that we hung out -- I hung out with the team.
(Unintelligible). Showed me around campus and went
to the football game (unintelligible) or something
like that.
Then after that, chilled out for a
minute, went to go eat, and then went to the Boston
game and then I'm not sure after that. Just chill
out.

RR: Okay. And it was during this


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Yes.

RR: Correct?

Correct.

RR: Okay. And what kind of


interactions did you have with him during that?

Basically -- he was the player


development coach so he basically just told me how he
developed a player on and off the court and better
players.

RR: Great. During that visit, he


might have mentioned it, did they have a time for you
to watch practice or interact with the team?

I watched practice. I think it


was the first day I got there. I can't recall. It
was either the first or second day I was there, but
we did yoga and watched practice. It was pretty
cool.

RR: And who was with you on your


visit?

Me, my mother, and my father.

RR: Okay. So I just wanted to ask


about you said that y'all took a red-eye?

Yeah.

RR: To get there?

Yeah.

RR: Do you know who paid for the


flight?

I don't know.

RR: And where did y'all stay whenever


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I'm not sure the name of the


hotel. I'm not sure.

RR: Was it in Storrs? Was it at the


university?

No. It was, like, probably like


five or ten minutes away from the university.

RR: And do you know who paid for the


hotel room?

I don't know.

RR: Did -- while you were there I


think you talked about meals that you had, during
that time, did your -- did you pay for the meals or
how did that go? Do you recall?

I'm not sure who paid for the


meals honestly. Hungry kid, yeah.

RR: Did you have -- I think you kind


of referred to it but I kind of want to narrow down
it a little bit more. When y'all ate, did you
primarily on the visit, did you eat with some of the
staff members or the team or were you on your own?

Yeah.

RR: You ate with the team?

Yeah.

RR: Okay. And do you recall, did the


staff at Uconn or did anyone there ask for payment
for the meals?

No, not that I know of. I just


went with the players, went downstairs, hung out with
them while my parents were upstairs.

RR: Can you tell me -- and I know


that you've walked me through the visit. During that
time that you were at practice, did y'all have a meal

 

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after that, do you recall?

I don't recall back in October.


I don't know.

RR: And that's been some time.

Yeah, yeah.

RR: Did you recall, was the practice,


was it in a practice facility?

Yeah, yeah.

RR: Did y'all ever go -- did you go


with the team I think there's like a dining facility
above the practice?

That's where we ate.

RR: You ate there?

Yeah.

RR: Were those meals with the team?

Yeah.

RR: Was your parents with you during


those meals?

Yes.

RR: Did you -- I think you said Ricky


Moore was your recruiting coach, correct?

Correct.

RR: What coaches did you finally meet


with?

Coach Ollie, Coach Griffin, Coach


Moore. I met a few other coaches. I forgot their
names. Another bald headed African American man.
Caucasian male as well. He had gray hair. Wears
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RR: Is that the Glenn Miller? That's


okay.

I don't know.

RR: That description was kind of


close. Did you -- when y'all flew in, did someone
pick you up or did y'all get a rental car. How did
that work?

Got a rental car.

RR: Do you know what company that was


through? Do you recall?

If I had the guess, my dad,


Enterprise.

RR: Do you know who paid for the


rental car?

I don't.

RR: And at the hotel, I think you


said you were there for a weekend, correct?

Correct.

RR: So can you repeat for me, I'm


sorry, what day did you get there and then what day
did you leave?

I think I got there on early


Saturday morning and then we left Sunday night.

RR: So how many nights did you stay


in the hotel?

Probably -- I'd say Saturday


morning, that night. Probably stayed one night.

RR: During your visit, was there ever


an opportunity for you to work out with the team or
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I couldn't really do any -- I


didn't work out. I was injured.

RR: Okay.

(Unintelligible).

RR: Did any of the coaches or anybody


at any time did they give you any gear to wear or
anything like that?

No.

RR: Was there any other recruits


visiting at that time?

No.

RR: So you were the only recruit


there?

I was the only one.

RR: I'm going to pause there,


.

KS: I have a couple of questions,


. You said you went to a football game on
Saturday, right?

Right.

KS: (Unintelligible). Glad to hear


that. I think you went to the Boston game. Was that
the Boston college game?

Boston Celtics. It was -- it was


a -- I don't know what kind of game it was. It
wasn't an actual game. It was like -- (inaudible).
I don't know, but (unintelligible). We literally sat
at the very top, so it was bad.

KS: Was that at Boston Gardens or was


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That was -- I'm not sure where


that was. I know it took a long time to get there
from the Uconn campus. That's all I know.

KS: Was it in a big city? Do you


remember?

Yes, it was. A lot of people


were there.

KS: A lot of people there.

Yeah.

KS: Was it like an exhibition game?

Exhibition game, yeah.

KS: Okay. Exhibition game.

I couldn't get that word out.

KS: I know it's hard. Exhibition


game. How did you get tickets to that? Do you
remember?

I don't.

KS: You don't.

I don't remember, no.

KS: Did (inaudible) send you


(inaudible) for that?

Probably. I don't know.

KS: Okay. Sure. Sure. Did your


family drive there, or did they take you there? They
being Uconn.

I went with my family.

KS: Oh, okay.

Yeah. I went with family. We



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went behind Coach Moore. Coach Moore led us there,


yes.

KS: You followed Coach Moore?

Correct.

KS: Did Coach Moore hand you tickets


to get in?

He hand me tickets?

KS: Yeah.

He didn't hand me tickets. I


don't know how -- (unintelligible).

KS: (Unintelligible).

Yeah. He knows the way.

KS: Exactly. Exactly. Do you


remember, did your mom or your dad have a
conversation saying, hey, let's go to the Celtics
game or was that -- did someone else suggest that?
Do you remember?

I don't know how that got brought


up.

KS: That's okay.

It really wasn't on the


official -- unofficial visit list. It just came out
of the blue.

KS: Yeah. Just came out of the blue.


Kind of like a good deal.

Yeah.

KS: Do you remember, where you


parked -- I know this is hard. It's so long ago.
We're just trying to figure this out.

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KS: Yeah.

Yeah. It was in a garage.


That's all I know.

KS: Did someone just kind of wave you


in? Did you have a pass? I know this is --

We went with Coach Moore, so we


just followed him.

KS: Followed him. Got it. Got it.


Got it. Got it. Okay. Then, , so who
suggested come to a visit at Uconn? Do you remember?
Did you just say hey, I want to go or.

Coach Ollie (Unintelligible).

KS: (Unintelligible) Yeah.

He definitely was like yeah you


got to come down here. It's beautiful. It really
was. Like I said, it was just too far from home.

KS: Too far and it's cold.

Yes.

KS: Right. Right. And so Coach


Ollie, did he say we will handle everything or -- do
you remember those conversations?

About handling?

KS: The visit.

Every coach says they'll handle


the visit. As far as like arranging things?

KS: Yeah.

Yeah, just definitely Coach Moore


that was doing all the arranging. Coach Ollie was
just there like to supervise and look over. Coach
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KS: Led the way.

Yeah.

KS: Yeah. Did you get like an


itinerary or a list?

Yeah.

KS: Yeah, you got that. And you said


the Celtics game was not on the itinerary.

Not on it.

KS: Okay. Okay. That's all I have.

RR: , I forgot to ask, when


you flew in, where did you fly in to?

I'm not sure.

RR: Okay.

I can't think back that far.

RR: Was it a larger town or was it in


Connecticut?

It was in Connecticut for sure.


It wasn't a large town because I remember we drove a
while in the middle of nowhere for a while, so I'm
not sure. Just a whole bunch of trees. I don't
know.

KS: That's about right. It sounds


right.

RR: Brian, did you have any follow up


questions for ?

BK: Yeah. , I'm apologizing


in advance because I'm going to jump around a little
bit. But I wanted to follow up on a few things that
you mentioned, and let's just start with the Celtics
game at the very end. I just pulled up some
information on the website for Uconn's football

 

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schedule. I think you said you went to a football


game that weekend, right?

Correct.

BK: Do you recall there were two


weekends in October that Uconn football was at home
in 2016 and the two games would be one against
Cincinnati and the other against UCF and that was the
homecoming games? Do you remember which team they
might have been playing?

It was Cincinnati.

BK: So that's Saturday, October 8th.


And then looking at the Boston Celtics preseason game
for 2016, looks like they played a game against the
Charlotte Hornets at the Mohegan Sun Arena on that
same night. Is that the game you're referring to?

Yes, sir.

BK: All right. So you watched the


football game against Cincinnati and then drove with
your parents to the Mohegan Sun Arena and watched
this exhibition against Charlotte and the Celtics.
Is that the right time frame?

Correct. What was the arena


called again?

BK: Mohegan Sun. I've never been


there, but I think there's a big casino with that
name somewhere in Connecticut.

Yeah. Sounds about right.

BK: Okay. And I didn't hear a


hundred percent. I just want to make sure that I
have the right information for my notes. I think you
said your family drove a rental car there, correct?

Correct.

BK: And you were following Coach


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Correct.

BK: When you got to the questions


about parking, do you know if your family paid for
parking, or was that provided for you by somebody
else?

I'm not sure.

BK: All right. Do you know if you


had to pay for parking at the arena?

Honestly, I woke up inside the


garage.

BK: So all that, how you got in,


whether you had to get a ticket, you were asleep for
all that?

Correct.

BK: Do you remember if you had to pay


to get out of the garage?

I'm not sure about that either.

BK: Okay. Just kind of spit balling,


was it one of those gates where you had to roll up
and put a ticket in or hand a ticket to somebody in
order to get out with a parking meter arm going up
and down, or was it just drive in drive out type
thing?

I can't recall that far back.

BK: Okay. You said that this game


was not on your unofficial visit itinerary. Was that
provided to you in advance of your visit, or is that
something that Coach Ollie and the staff had waiting
for you when you got there?

It wasn't brought up before --


before I flew down there. I'm not sure if it came up
in the conversation.

 

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BK: So tell me about that


conversation. Who was the one that brought it up?

I'm not sure. I can't recall.


Probably -- I don't want to say any names because I
really don't know.

BK: Okay. Was it brought up in the


way of, hey, we have extra tickets, do you want to
come? Would you like to come watch a game and you
have to pay for the ticket yourself? I mean, can you
give me some sort of idea how it was -- how the
proposal was made to you and your family?

The proposal to go to the game?

BK: Yeah. In other words was there


limitations where they would take care of everything
or was it say hey this is an opportunity if you want
to go see the Celtics it's nearby and you can do that
if you'd like?

I know Coach Ollie really wanted


to see (inaudible0 so we went down there. And
Coach Moore set it up and everything like that. So
we followed him on the way down there and I fell
asleep and woke up in the garage.

BK: All right. And it sounds like


you know the tickets were received at some point.
You guys either bought them or they were
given to you, you just can't tell me if your family paid
for them or not; is that right?

Say that again.

BK: What I'm trying to get to and I'm


dancing around this a little bit, but I'm really
trying to get to the heart of the matter. Do you
know one way or another whether your family paid for
the tickets or if they were given to your family?

I don't know.

BK: Okay. I want to go back to one


other issue about the meals that you ate at the

 

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practice facility. And it sounds to me like -- and


again, I caught most of it, but I didn't catch all of
it because I'm not there in person. But it sounded
like you said that you watched practice with the team
and then went to the dining facility that's above the
practice court; is that right.

That is right.

BK: And your parents were with you


during that meal; was that right?

That is right.

BK: Okay. So the question there


again is the same as before. Do you know if your
parents ever paid any money to Connecticut for the
meal that you guys all had?

I don't know. Actually when I


started eating, I just went downstairs back to the
courts and watched other guys put up more shots after
we ate.

BK: Okay.

And like I said, it was me and


(inaudible) so my parents stayed upstairs while we
went down.

BK: All right. So whatever happened


between your parents and the coaching staff up there,
you couldn't -- you guys didn't have any
conversations after the fact like, hey, that meal
cost five or ten dollars or good thing we got a
chance to have a meal without having to pay for it?

No. I didn't hear any


conversation.

BK: One other thing I wanted to


follow up on and, again, I apologize. I heard this a
little bit, but I didn't really get the whole
picture. You said you had a conversation with Danny
Griffin which he explained to you what he does to
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you describe for me like the setting in which that


conversation took place. Was this part of a
presentation they were giving you about what it would
be like to go to Connecticut? Was this a
conversation you and he had alone? Was it a formal
conversation just something you had in passing? Can
you kind of tell me how that conversation came about?

Basically it was just me and him


downstairs. It was me, him, and my family. My mom
and my dad. Basically he talked about how he (inaudible)
people on the court. After practice, working them
out. Or off the court. (Unintelligible).

BK: All right. So again, the


conversation started with him approaching you, or I
think you said he was kind of around for your visit.
Was it just -- did he approach you and start talking
about player development or did you guys ask him
about what he did, what kind of thing?

He approached us and introduced


himself.

BK: And you and your family had a


conversation about what he does and kind of how his
job works, right?

Yes.

BK: You said that he and your father


kind of kicked off a pretty good relationship at
that point. Was that based on this conversation, or
can you give me some idea about why those two seem to
get along so well?

I actually don't know how they


get along so well. I mean, they have the same
personality being around both of them. Like I said,
I'm not sure if they called each other after the
visit. I know they seemed really close during the
visit.

BK: Okay. All right. , I


don't think I have any other questions. Russell, is
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RR: Yes, just one thing. Before I do


that, Vickie, did you have anything?

VP: No.

RR: , you just talked about


when you talked with Danny Griffin, he talked about
developing players on the court. Can you say
specifically what he was saying there? What did he
describe to you?

Working them out


(unintelligible). He mentioned there now.
He had an injury. He was talking about his injury
and recovery and stuff like that, but
(unintelligible).

RR: Did you ever see Danny on the


court at the practices that you went and visited?

On the court during practice,


yes.

RR: What was he doing?

Yelling at the players. Coaching


them up. Bringing them to the side. Telling them
what to do.

RR: So from your perspective, were


other coaches around during that practice?

Yes.

RR: Whenever he would give them


feedback, was he telling them about specific plays or
things they could do to improve on the court? Could
you recall exactly?

I couldn't hear them because they


were on the court, but I definitely know they were
talking.

RR: So you saw him talking with


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Yes.

RR: Did it appear to you that he was


providing any instruction or anything like that?

Yeah. Definitely telling them


where to be at some point on the court or where to
be, but nothing other than that.

RR: Okay. And during that


conversation where he met you and your parents and he
said that he helped developed players on the court,
did you say that was after practice or something like
that? What exactly? I'm just trying to be specific.
Sorry.

I think it was -- I don't recall.


It might have been before practice. Again, might be
after. Because I know he hung out with the lift
coach with him, so might have been after.

RR: And you said you don't recall if


he spoke with your father after the visit or he might
have?

I don't recall.

RR: Okay. Okay. Brian, did you have


any follow up?

BK: Just one, . You said you


kind of saw this interaction between Danny and the
players, but you couldn't hear them. Where were you
in the practice facility when you were watching that?

I was like -- I mean, I was like


on the far end of the court. It wasn't really like
on the baseline type area. It was more on the far
end sitting down watching practice.

BK: And what you were seeing was over


by where say the Uconn bench would be?

Say again.



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BK: In other words you were kind of


on the opposite end, opposite side of the court? I'm
just trying to get an idea of where you were.

Yes. Opposite side of the court.

BK: When all that was going on were


there other coaches out on the court actually running
guys through plays and drills and that type of thing?

Yes. It was a lot of coaches


doing that.

BK: Okay. And who were the coaches


who were out on the court talking to the players?

It was Coach Griffin, Coach


Ollie, Coach Moore, and two other coaches that I
didn't know of.

BK: Okay. That's it, Russell. Thank


you.

RR: All right, . Next


question I have for you is just to the best of your
recollection. It has been reported to us that some
Uconn recruits, that their families were offered
monetary -- items of monetary value. Either money or
different items for them to commit to Uconn. Did
anyone ever offer you any inducement or anything of
value for money to commit to Uconn?

No.

RR: To your knowledge did anyone


offer your mom or your dad or family member anything
of value or money for you to commit to Uconn?

No.

RR: And thank you for your patience


with me. Before I see if we have any final questions
or anything, during your recruitment by Uconn, was
there anything else -- anything that gave you pause
or that made you a little concerned? Anything like
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Coach Ollie might be getting


fired, but other than that, that was it.

RR: So nothing from your time on


campus or talking to anybody?

(Unintelligible).

RR: Okay. Have -- other than your


VP and your mom and your dad, has anyone
reached out to you to ask you about this interview
today or have you talked to anyone about the
interview today?

(Inaudible).

RR: Okay. Brian, did you have any?

BK: Nothing further. Thanks.

VP: Nothing.

KS: Nothing.

RR: , again, I thank you for


your time today for answering my questions. It's
been very helpful. Before I end I do have a bit to
go over just to let you know about some notices and
some things when we leave here today. Before I do
that, is there anything you would like to add or
clarify about what we talked about?

No.

RR: Great. All right. So the last


thing I need to tell you is that NCAA legislature
requires that you help protect the integrity of this
investigation. Therefore, as the investigation
continues, we ask that you're not permitted to speak
with others about what we discussed today or any
information related to this information except that
you may speak with your personal legal counsel,
others present in the room, and myself. Failure to
protect the integrity of this investigation could
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principles of ethical conduct and/or the cooperative


principles. Do you understand those statements?

I do.

RR: Okay. Great. At some point


after the NCAA completes the investigation, someone
else involved in the party investigates or the
attorney or legal counsel or representatives may
request to interview you about matters related to
this case, and we encourage you to speak with them
just like you agreed to speak with us. This doesn't,
however, include any representatives from the media.
So I know that can be a little bit
hard to understand. But if you do have any questions
about who you can or cannot speak with, please reach
out to your counsel who can get in contact with us,
and we're happy to help you out with that. Not
saying that that will happen. Just in case. Do you
have any final questions for me, ?

No.

RR: Okay. Great. Then I will note


for the record that this interview concluded at
10:41 a.m. Pacific Time. Thank you, sir.

-- END OF AUDIO --

 

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INTERVIEW OF
UNIVERSITY OF E
THURSDAY, FEBRUARY 8TH, 2018

RR: All right. I'm just going to


note for the record that it's 4:02 p.m. Eastern Time,
and this is Thursday, February 8th, 2018. I'm here
in the office, the NCAA national office in
Indianapolis. But for the purpose of voice
Identification, I'd like to ask each per n the
call to state their name and title, and we will
start with you, okay?

Yes.

RR: You can just state your name,

,
.

RR: Okay. Great. Henry.

HG: This is Henry Gim utside


counsel for UConn. That's fine, Mr. you did
perfect.

JT: And this is Joyce Thompson, NCAA


Associate Director of Enforcement.

RR: And I'm Russell Register one of


the assistant directors of the enforcement with the
NCAA. And I just w o note that prior to going on
the record I asked if it was okay if we record
today's interview, ou said it was; is that
correct, sir?

Yes.

RR: Okay. Perfect. Also prior to


going on the record you had a chance to review the
NCAA interview n form. Did you have a chance to
read that form, ?

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Yes, I did.

RR: Okay. And do you understand that


the purpose of this interview is to determine whether
you have any knowledge of or involvement in any
violations of NCAA legislation?

Right.

RR: Okay.

Yes.

RR: Is that yes. Okay. Great.

Yep.

RR: And do you understand that you


may be represented by personal legal counsel during
this interview?

Oh, yes.

RR: Okay. And do you understand that


NCAA bylaw 10.1 obligates you to provide truthful and
complete information in this interview?

Yes.

RR: Okay. And do you understand that


if it is ever determined that you provided false or
misleading information or withheld information in
this interview, this could constitute a violation of
the NCAA principles of ethical conduct and could
impact your athletically related duties in the future
as a staff member at NCAA institution?

Yes.

RR: Okay. Do you understand the


information provided during this interview may be
shared with other NCAA departments?

Yes.

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RR: Okay. Do you have any questions


regarding any part of that interview notice form?

None. Not at all.

RR: Okay. And did you sign and date


that form?

Yes, I did.

RR: Okay. Perfect. Thanks, .


Thanks for bearing with me. I appreciate it.
right. I know that we had this information, ,
but just for the record, what's a good teleph
number to reach you at?

RR: And what's a good e-mail address


for you?

at .com.

RR: Perfect. Great. Okay. Just


wanted to s t general. We're going to
talk about , his recruitment by the
University If you would, what is
your relation to ?

I've been with his mom for about


seven or eight rs now, so I'm playing the role of
the daddy in the house.

: Gotcha. Okay. And what


school -- is currently in high school,
correct?

Yes.

RR: What year is he in high school?

What year?

RR: Yes.

He's .

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RR: Okay. Perfect. And what school


is he currently committed to play basketball for?

: Gotcha. Great. And just want to


confirm. was recruited by the University of
Connecticu ect?

Yes.

RR: Okay. Can you recall what time-


frame did that recruitment take place during?

Oh, that was back in, let me get


this right, 201 Which would have been after his
sophomore. Yeah. timeframe.

RR: Okay.

Months or?

RR: No. That's good.

Okay.

RR: Roughly was it his sophomore,


junior years; is that correct?

Yes, yes. Uh-huh. That's


correct.

RR: Okay. Perfect. And did


ever take a visit to UConn?

Yes, we did.

RR: Okay. When was that?

That visit was September/October


of . I'm l ing more towards October.

RR: Okay. Great perfect. Who all


went on that visit?

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That was myself, his mother,


, and .

RR: Okay. Perfect. And e


follow-up question. Sorry. Are you and 's
mother, are y'all married or?

No, we're not. We've just been


cohabited for, e, about seven, eight years ever
since we got together.

RR: Okay. Gotcha. Sorry. Just


wanted to clarify.

Yep. Okay. Look, I need about a


minute. I'm ab to put my phone through the X-ray
machine.

RR: Okay. That's no problem.

All right.

RR: We will pause here.

Are you guys there?

RR: We're here.

Okay. Sorry about that. I'm out


of security now

RR: No problem. No problem. That's


pretty quick. Okay. Just wanted up. We
were talking about the visit that took. That
was an unofficial visit, correct?

Unofficial visit, correct.

RR: Okay. Perfect. And how did


y'all travel to Connecticut?

By plane.

RR: Okay. What airline was that?


Can you recall?

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I'm going to take a stab at it.


It was either U ed or Delta, I believe.

RR: And did y'all pay for the plane


tickets, or did the University of Connecticut?

Oh, no, I paid on my own credit


card.

RR: Gotcha. And once y'all got


there, how long did y'all stay?

I want to say two nights, I


believe. I wan o say two nights. Yeah, two
nights.

RR: Gotcha. And where did y'all stay


while y'all were visiting?

It was the Residents Inn.

RR: Was it in Storrs, or was it


somewhere close?

Right outside of Storrs. It was


close, but it w outside of Storrs. Probably a
20-minute drive or so.

RR: Gotcha. And did the University


of Connecticut, did they arrange for that hotel, or
did you pay for that?

I paid for that as well.

RR: Gotcha. And did you have a


rental car while y'all were there, do you recall?

Yes, I had a rental car.

RR: Gotcha. Did the University of


Connecticut, did they provide that, or did you set
that up?

I paid for that as well


(inaudible).

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RR: I'm sorry?

I paid for that as well.

RR: Gotcha. Great. And so what did


y'all do while there for the unofficial visit? Kind
of how did that go? What was the itinerary?

So funny story, funny story. Our


plane -- if you ve a minute, our plane actually was
delayed on the LA (inaudible). So when we arrived to
Connecticut, we got the rental car, and we actually
went straight to the university. We had to take a
shower there from the night before. So after that,
we just met up with the coach, the coaching staff.
And from that day, we just sat there, and we watched
the practice.

RR: Okay. And what day was that?


Was that a Friday or Saturday?

That was a Friday.

RR: Okay.

That was a Friday.

RR: And so on the Saturday, what did


y'all do?

On the Saturday, woke up and went


back up to the lege, and we went to the football
game.

RR: Do you remember who UConn was


playing that day?

I want to say it was Cincinnati,


I want to say.

RR: Okay. Gotcha. Perfect. What


else did y'all do on that Saturday?

Okay. On that Saturday after the


game we went to e an NBA exhibition game. Boston
Celtics and the Charlotte Hornets, yes.

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RR: Gotcha. Where was that at?

Oh, man, that was at -- it was a


little further tance out. It was, God, I don't
know the name of the place, but it was like a casino.
They had the arena there. I can't recall the name.

RR: Gotcha.

I know it was a casino arena. It


was a nice plac

RR: Mohegan Sun, does that sound


right?

There you go. Mohegan Sun.

RR: Gotcha. Perfect. So tell me,


was the exhibition game, was that on the itinerary,
or how did that come up?

That came along with just a


conversation th I had with Coach Moore. You know,
they told me that Boston was playing, so I took it
upon myself to go ahead and catch that game. You
know, give us something to do.

RR: Gotcha. Who was that that you


talked with? I'm sorry.

Coach Moore.

RR: Oh, okay. Was he 's


recruiting coach?

Yeah, yeah. The primary


recruiter.

RR: Gotcha. How did y'all travel to


that?

In my rental car.

RR: Okay. Did Coach Moore, did he go


with y'all?

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No. He had his own car.

RR: Gotcha. When you got there, did


you have to pay for tickets, or how did that work?

I paid for the ticket in advance.


When I put this ip together, I purchased the ticket
through ticket(inaudible). It was a previous
purchase.

RR: So did Coach Moore, did y'all


talk ahead of the visit about what y'all would do and
that type thing?

Did we talk ahead of the visit?


I'm sorry, can elaborate on that? I saw him at
the football game, and then he said we're going to
head over to the basketball game now.

RR: Gotcha. I guess I was just


asking because I think you said that you purchased
the ticket ahead of time. Do you mean just that day
ahead of time or before the visit?

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, before


the visit. I g s that means ahead of time.

RR: Okay.

Prior to the visit I purchased


the ticket.

RR: Gotcha. So I guess my question


is, did Coach Moore -- or did you talk with someone
with UConn about what they had planned so you knew to
purchase the ticket for that?

Yes, Coach Moore. Yes.

RR: And did you -- for that game, did


you have to pay to park whenever you went up there or
went down there?

To pay to park?

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RR: Right. At the Celtics game.

I don't think. I want to say it


was free parkin ecause it was a casino.

RR: Okay.

Yeah.

RR: So how many tickets did you


purchase or who all?

Three.

RR: Three?

All three for my family. Uh-huh.

RR: So all three went to the game; is


that correct?

Yes, yes.

RR: Did Coach Moore, did he purchase


a ticket for himself or?

I have no idea how Coach Moore


got it. I know went to the game. I had my
tickets online electronically, and that's all I know.
We were sitting up a ways. We were all by ourselves.

RR: Gotcha. Okay. Great. So just


wanted to ask about the visit. As far as like eating
and things, where did y'all eat at while y'all were
there?

Well, when we met the first day,


went back to ou otel, and there's a Wal-Mart across
the street. And me and the family went across the
street and we bought some groceries, you know, for a
couple of days. You know, there was some times when
we'd hit a McDonald's or something like that, but we
did our breakfast in the hotel. Kind of a little bit
of food there. It had a kitchen in it.

RR: Gotcha. Did y'all ever eat with

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the team any time?

With the team. No, not with the


team.

RR: Okay. Gotcha. It was --


describe to us like after the practice on one
occasion that there was a meal with the team. Do you
recall that at all?

Hold on, Friday, Friday, Friday,


okay. Friday, wed up, came in, practice, the team
was having a meal after practice. The team was
having a meal after practice. Okay. I'm with you
now.

RR: Okay. Did y'all -- y'all eat


during that meal with them or?

Yes, we did.

RR: Okay. Where was that at? Do you


recall?

Oh, in one of the -- it was


inside the gymn um. Inside the upstairs. I don't
know what the room was. It was like a big open area.

RR: Gotcha. And that was in the same


arena as the practice gym? The same building?

Yeah. I believe so. It was


upstairs.

RR: Okay. Did someone from UConn,


did they ask you to pay for that meal?

No.

RR: That was a no? I'm sorry?

Yes.

JT: Mr. this is Joyce.

Hello.

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JT: Hi. Ca desc st, you


know, what -- when you and and went
upstairs, kind of what did urrou look like
when you went upstairs for the meal?

Almost as if there was -- like a


little open are taged up with tables. I don't
know. It was like -- I don't know how else to
explain it. It was -- it wasn't a closed-in room.
It was an open area. Had windows, you know, windows
all around. You know, long walkways. Long hallways
on each side.

JT: Okay. And when you were invited


to go upstairs, who actually -- let me ask you this:
Were you invited to go upstairs and eat with the rest
of the team?

I want to say yes. I want to say


yes, and I just n't recall that conversation. I
mean, you know, the details of it.

JT: Okay. So my next question was


going to be who invited you?

If I had to say anybody it would


be Coach Moore ause, you know, that was our lead
recruiter. So I would have to say Coach Moore.

JT: Okay.

But I'm not -- yeah.

JT: That's okay. That's okay.

Yeah.

JT: Do you recall what other coaches


were there at the meal?

Let's see, Coach Ollie, Coach


Moore. I want say Coach Miller at the time. I
want to say Coach Miller. Do I have his name right?

JT: Yes, you do.

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RR: You do.

That was the Caucasian coach.

RR: Yep.

Yeah, I want to say -- I want to


say those three

JT: Okay. And did you and


engage in conversation with the r coaches
han Coach Moore during the meal?

Mainly just Coach Moore. Mainly


just Coach Moor

JT: Okay. And how long would you say


the meal lasted?

I would say probably about 20,


25 minutes. Wa d to get back to the room, so it
wasn't too long at all.

JT: Okay. And could you tell if the


meal was, like, catered in from a restaurant or
was --

I know there was a cook. There


was a chef ther

JT: Okay. All right.

I don't know if it was from a


restaurant or n but I know there was a chef there.

JT: Okay. Okay. Thank you.

You're welcome.

RR: Henry, did you have any follow-up


questions on t efore we move on? Henry, are you
still there? , are you still there?

I'm here. I'm here.

JT: , I don't know if we lost

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Henry or not. We might need to wait a few minutes


until he --

RR: To see if he calls back in.

JT: Yeah.

Okay.

JT: Okay.

Okay, I'm here. I don't board


until 2:15.

JT: Okay.

HG: Hey, Russell, do you have me?

RR: Hey, Henry, yes, we've got you.

HG: Sorry. I was trying to hit mute


and I hit hang up. I do have a few questions.

RR: No problem. You can go ahead.


Henry?

HG: Just a few. So just to clear up.


I think I know the answer to of these but just
so the record is clear, Mr. . You mentioned
that -- I think you used the my when you were
talking about buying airline tickets to take the family
to UConn for a visit. Did you buy your wife's ticket
and your son's ticket as well?

Oh, yes, yes.

HG: Okay. Just so I get the time-


line straight. Were you guys supposed to leave LA on
a Thursday?

Yeah. It was late Thursday


night. Late Th day night so kind of like an early
Friday morning flight.

HG: Okay. So you guys arrived in


UConn you think sort of before 10:00 a.m. on Friday
morning?

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What time was that again?

HG: Before like 10:00 a.m. Friday


morning.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. It was early,


yes. Yes.

HG: So y'all flew through the night?

What was that?

HG: You all flew through the night?

Yes, we flew through the night.


That is correct

HG: Okay. And then just to this


meal, you mentioned a chef being there, and I'm just
trying to get a feel for sort of the meal itself.
Would this be a breakfast, lunch, or dinner?

That was lunch.

HG: Oka then, you know, I know


as highly recruited as was, you guys have
taken a lot of official and sometimes you have
what I'd call fancy meals on a Friday or Saturday
night where there's, you know, really nice steak or
lobster or something served. Was this sort of -- can
you give me an idea? Are we talking sort of
something kind of a grab and go or is this like a sit
down, here's a salad, here's an entree, here's
dessert?

Yes. I would explain it -- like


I said, we're i his open room and it was almost
like they had a little buffet set up. You know, we
grab a plate and the guy was putting the food on the
plate and that's about as simple as it was.

HG: Okay. It wasn't some extravagant


sit down?

No. It wasn't nothing

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extravagant, but I do remember that chicken. Oh, my


God, that chicken was good.

HG: We will let UConn know to focus


on the chicken from now on.

I do remember that. Oh, God, it


was good.

hat's all I've got for now.


Thank you, Mr. .

You got it.

RR: Great. Thanks, . Was there


any other times that y'all ate with eam other
than that one time?

Not at all.

RR: Did y'all meet with the coaching


staff, or did the coaching staff meet y'all anywhere
for a meal?

Not at all.

RR: Okay. I wanted to ask you about,


you mentioned that y'all watched practice before
that?

Yes.

RR: Can you tell me did you meet


anybody before practice or did you meet with any
coaches before or after?

I met quite a few people there.


I met -- I mean here's quite a few people I met
there.

RR: Gotcha. I wanted to ask about


one particular person and that's Danny Griffin. Did
you -- had you spoken with him or did you have a talk
with him before that time or when did you first talk
with him?

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Yeah. Danny Griffin is the SoCal


basketball lege We're all in a basketball
(inaudible). I know Danny Griffin.

: Gotcha. Did you ever talk with


him about or anything before going on the
visit?

Yeah. I spoke with him one time,


and that was th gh a mutual friend who gave me his
contact number so I could reach out to the University
of Connecticut because they're interested.

RR: Gotcha. So did in that exchange,


did he call you or did you call him?

I called him.

RR: Gotcha. And so did you speak


with him any other times before going on campus?

The only other time that we spoke


was I contacted m to let him know. I shot him a
text message letting him know we arrived at the
airport.

RR: Okay. Great. And so did he come


up and did he introduce himself to y'all during the
visit at all?

He met us. He met us outside the


gymnasium.

RR: Was that before or after


practice? Do you recall?

That was before. That was when


we arrived.

RR: Oh, okay.

He actually pointed to -- he
pointed to wher o park at.

RR: So when you called him before the


visit to touch base with him, what did y'all talk

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about in that conversation?

Mainly just basketball.


Basketball. Ba tball. Letting him know that we're
interested in the University of Connecticut and if he
could reach out to Kevin Ollie for me. But other
than that, we got caught up. We're always talking
about basketball. We both had some good teams back
in the day.

RR: Gotcha. Great. And so when


y'all talked with Danny before when you first got
there, did he describe what his role was at UConn?

Yeah. Yes.

RR: What did he say? What was that


conversation?

Player development. How he helps


the kids off th ourt. How to become young men.
How to handle themselves off the court. How to
dress.

RR: Gotcha. Was he at practice? Do


you recall?

I can't recall. I can't recall.

RR: So you didn't see him any time


along the side of the court or around that day?

No. Our time with him was real


brief. I can r ll our time was real brief.

JT: And Mr. , can you explain


your time again to us. I wa ttle bit unclear.
Did you say that he met -- can you just explain that
time to us?

Yeah. So when I got, you know,


when I got off plane, I texted him a message. I
let him know we landed, you know, told him I was on
my way to get the rental car. And then when I got
the rental car, I told him we're in route and I gave
him a timeframe of when we're going the make it. So

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he texted me back. He told me where to park. So when


I got up into the university I didn't quite
understand where to park at. So we were driving down
the street and he was coming outside -- coming
outside the gymnasium.

JT: Oh, okay.

And that's when he was like go


park over there ross the street in that structure.

JT: Okay. I gotcha. Thank you.

Yep.

JT: And you don't recall seeing him


in the gym? He didn't go back in the gymnasium after
he directed you where to park?

After he directed us where to


park, he took u - I want to say after the shower he
took us upstairs and that's when the rest of the coaches
-- and we took our showers. And after that we got
back together and I believe Danny went his way and
then us and the coaches went downstairs to start
joining practice.

JT: Okay.

That's the best of my knowledge.


I believe that' hat happened.

JT: Okay. Thank you, Mr. .

Uh-huh.

RR: Did you see Danny any other time


after that during the visit?

No, not at all. That was the


last time I saw m. That Friday.

RR: Did y'all talk after the visit


was concluded after you went back home?

Did we what?

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RR: Did y'all ever talk again after


you went back home after the visit?

After the visit actually he just


sent me a text sage. He sent me a text message
that night making sure that we're all settled in and
everything, and that was basically about it. He was
just making sure we're all good.

RR: Okay. When was that? I'm sorry.

That was later that night.


Friday night. day after we left practice and went
back to the hotel. Wanted to make sure we were all
settled in and everything and hoped for us to enjoy
our trip.

RR: Gotcha. After that -- after you


made it back home following the visit and the
following months after that until the end of UConn's
recruitment really, did you ever talk with Danny
again on the phone or through texts?

Yes, yes. We still had phone


conversations.

RR: Gotcha. Would he call you


sometimes or would you call him? How did that work?

Both ways. Both ways. Both


ways.

RR: What would y'all talk about?

Again, basketball, basketball


players, high s ol.

RR: Did y'all ever talk about


or UConn?

No, no, no. There was -- no, no,


no, no.

RR: Gotcha. How many times would you


say that Danny probably called you after the visit?

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Oh, goodness, I still -- I spoke


with him yester , you know, again about basketball.
About players. You know, we talk every now and then,
and it's always about basketball. Always about the
kids.

RR: All right, . I did want to


ask just one -- this is probabl ng to go back to
what I should have asked at the beginning on
back , but what's your current occupation,
Mr. ? Sorry about that.

I work for a company


called . ' oing on
15 year for our
government def

RR: Gotcha.

JT: Did you by any chance,


Mr. , when you talked to Danny yesterday, did
he b chance or did you by any chance tell him
that you would be interviewing with us or did that
come up?

No, I did not. I put that on


everything. No That's between -- that's my
business. Not his. No, I did not tell him nothing
about that.
JT: Okay.

Not at all.

RR: Has anybody contacted you --

Hello?

RR: , can you hear me?

The only one that contacted me


was Vicky. She ld me to give you a call.

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RR: Okay. Gotcha.

Yep.

RR: Henry, did you have any follow-up?

HG: I don't.

RR: All right, well, thanks so


much for taking the time. I know it' n kind of
difficult going through security and everything.

No, no.

RR: We appreciate you taking the time


to talk with us.

No problem at all. No problem.

JT: , can I ask you just one


more question?

Yes, no problem.

JT: And I think Russell might have


asked you, but how many times would you say that
Danny Griffin -- I know you said you just talked
about basketball. But how many times would you say
that he had communicated with you or called you I
should say after your visit to UConn?

After our visit?

JT: Yeah.

It was -- we had communication.


It wasn't like kly or nothing like that. Maybe
every two weeks or so.

JT: Okay.

Call checking in on Southern Cal


schools.

JT: Okay. I know you said in your


interview, you talked a lot of basketball. Did you
play basketball?

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Yeah, yeah. I played basketball.

JT: Is that how you and Danny


connected?

We connected because I was in one


part of LA, he in another part of LA, and their
team was the Crenshaw -- everybody in America did
Crenshaw basketball program.

JT: Okay.

Like I said all of our mutual


friends, everyb in SoCal is basketball, you're all
connected. They're all connected. You all know each
other.

JT: Okay. I just wanted to see how


that connection came about, so thank you.

In basketball, yes.

JT: Okay.

RR: Gotcha. All right, .

HG: Let st ask a couple of


generic questions, Mr. , since we're here about
UConn today. I don't w have to bother you
again. You've helped provide some very specific
answers to specific questions. Let me just ask you
more generally, was there anything that any staff
member at UConn did or said to you as you've been
through the recruiting process that you considered
sort of sketchy or maybe (inaudible) the rules or
anything like that?

None whatsoever.

HG: Was there anything about your


visit to UConn that you felt was different in any
meaningful way? When I say meaningful I don't mean
the taste of the chicken so much as I mean -- so much
as I mean were you offered, were you given any gear,
were you taken to any fancy restaurants, ever ride in

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a limousine, anything like that UConn did --

No. Nothing, nothing, nothing.


Nothing. I wou not accept anything (inaudible).

HG: Anything about your interaction


with Danny that you felt wasn't appropriate, you
felt Danny in ay was trying to become an active
recruiter of or trying to ct him or
himself in so ingful way as
(inaudible)?

Not at all.

HG: Okay. That's all I have.

, let me ask you this: Do


you think if 't being recruited by UConn,
would you sti the level of communication you
ave had with Danny after the vi
-- if UConn wasn't recruiting ?

I would say yes because even


after we contac UConn and told them we're going in
a different direction, like I said, he spoke to me
again yesterday about basketball. Once we connected,
it was -- it was just a basketball thing. He's from
LA, I'm from LA, so, you know, once we got that
connection. I'm going to say yes. Like I said even
after, you know, we turned down the Connecticut offer
we still spoke.

JT: Okay. All right. Thank you.

I'm going to just go ahead and


say this, even ugh I know what's transpiring now,
he called me yesterday. That's still Danny Griffin
from LA. You know, so I accepted his call, and we
just talked about basketball.

JT: Okay. Fair enough.

Yep.

RR: All right , before we end I


do have a few last things to g r with you real
quick. Is there anything you'd like to add or

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clarify to what we've talked about today?

We covered everything. We
covered everyth .

RR: Gotcha. So the last thing I do


need to tell you is that the NCAA legislation
requires that you help protect the integrity of this
investigation. Therefore, as the investigation
continues, we ask that you're not permitted to speak
with others about what we discussed today or any
information related to this investigation except that
you may speak with personal legal counsel if you
choose to retain them or others present on the call
today, okay?

No problem. I agree.

RR: Failure to protect the integrity


of this investigation could result in an allegation
that you violated the principles of ethical conduct
and/or the cooperative principles, s you
understand all of those statements, ?

Yes, I do. Yes.

RR: Great. At some point after the


NCAA completes this investigation someone else
involved as a party in this case or their attorney,
legal counsel, or representative may request to
interview you about matters related to this case and
we encourage you to agree to speak with them just as
you've agreed to speak with us. This doesn't,
however, include any members of the media.
So I understand that's a bit
confusing. So if you ever have any questions -- I'm
not saying that anyone will contact you to interview
you, but if they do, please feel free to reach out to
me. You've got my information. I'm happy to help
you with that, okay?

Okay. No problem. I don't plan


on speaking to ody.

JT: Thank you.

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RR: Thanks, .

It's my son's career on the line


here. No. I d t mess around.

RR: cha. Do you have any final


questions for me, ?

No, I'm good. Appreciate it.


Glad I could be assistance.

RR: Henry, did you have any final


questions before we go?

HG: I don't. I don't. Thank y'all


for y'all's time.

RR: Great. Then I'll note for the


record that the interview concluded at 4:40 p.m.
Eastern Time. Thank you, sir.

-- END OF AUDIO --

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Ann Fiorvanti
Associate Athletic Director for Compliance
University of Connecticut
2095 Hillside Road, Unit 1173
Storrs, CT 06269

March 7, 2018

Sarah Otey
Director Academic and Membership Affairs
NCAA
P.O. Box 6222
Indianapolis, IN 46206

Dear Ms. Otey:

This is to request the reinstatement of eligibility in connection with the violation of


NCAA bylaw 12.1.2.1.6 [Preferential Treatment, Benefits or Services] involving
University of Connecticut men’s basketball student-athletes, and
Their violations result from the impermissible receipt of lodging, meals,
transportation, training, and gym access provided by Derrek Hamilton, an Atlanta,
Georgia-based trainer. The University’s next contest – the first round of the American
Athletic Conference men’s basketball tournament – is scheduled for Thursday, March 8,
2017, at 12:00 P.M. EST.

FACTUAL SUMMARY
and are men’s basketball student-athletes at Connecticut. After the
2014-2015 season, each player met Derrek Hamilton while Hamilton was on campus at
Connecticut helping two former men’s basketball student-athletes train for the upcoming
professional draft. At the time, at least Hamilton and exchanged contact
information.
After his basketball season (2015-2016), reached out to Hamilton to
inquire about off-season basketball training. Around the same time, was
approached by a third teammate, who was considering foregoing his last year of
eligibility, about the prospect of travelling to train with Hamilton in Atlanta.
discussed the trip with his father, who ultimately contacted Head Coach Kevin Ollie to
confirm its permissibility. Ollie told father that the training would be permissible
so long as the institution was not involved in covering any associated costs.1
father also contacted Hamilton to ensure that Hamilton could provide gym space and the
expected training and additionally inquired as to the costs of training. Hamilton relayed

1
father assumes – but could not definitively state – that Hamilton’s name was
brought up. Coach Ollie and Hamilton are good friends who regularly play golf together
and whose sons are best friends.

Ollie Admin 1013


that any payments for the sessions could be handled “down the road.” Neither nor
further discussed the issue with any institutional representative.
and ultimately traveled to Atlanta, Georgia to train with Hamilton.2 While
the group was prepared to stay in an Atlanta-area hotel, they ultimately stayed at
Hamilton’s residence for approximately four days and three nights. While there,
Hamilton allowed the group access to his groceries for breakfast (eggs, pancake mix,
light snacks, etc.). Hamilton also either drove the group to two training sessions per day
or allowed the group the use of his vehicle. Each of the eight training sessions took place
at Athletic Club Northeast. and were not charged for the lodging, meals,
transportation, admission to the club, or the training sessions. Their only costs for the trip
were their respective travel to Georgia and their non-breakfast meals while there.
Apart from father contacting Coach Ollie, neither student-athlete reached out to
any other institutional representative about the trip (before or after).
Connecticut is unaware of any information suggesting that Hamilton is a representative of
the University’s athletics interests. Its records reflect that he has not made donations to
Connecticut, purchased season tickets, or been a member of any Connecticut booster
club. As outlined above, he has been on campus in the past to train former student-
athletes as they prepare for their professional career and is a close acquaintance of Coach
Ollie.

CALCULATION OF BENEFIT RECEIVED


Connecticut believes that Hamilton provided and with preferential
treatment by providing each lodging, meals, transportation, training, and gym access
during their trip to Atlanta in the Summer of 2016. The University has determined the
value of the benefits as follows:
x The institution has located Hamilton’s Atlanta address and information relating to his
monthly mortgage. That monthly rental of the condominium is $1,800, thereby
establishing a daily amount of $60. See Exh. A. That daily amount divided by four
(Hamilton, and the other, former student-athlete) comes to $15,
making and respective portion of their three-night stay $45.
x A typical rental car would be $19/day, making and respective one-
third portion $25.33 for the four-day rental. See Exh. B.
x Private, small-group training was estimated at $581 for 8 sessions. See Exh. C.
and respective portion of those training costs would be $193.67.
x Non-members of the Athletic Club Northeast may use the facilities for $25/day. With
four days of training, and respective four-day facility fee would be
$100.
x and were provided access to basic groceries in order to eat breakfast.
The University approximates those costs to be $5/day for each of the four days for
each involved student-athlete, totaling $20.

2
There is currently no evidence suggesting an extra benefit or preferential treatment
associated with either student-athletes’ travel to Atlanta.

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The total value of extra benefits and each received is approximated at
$384.
RULES EDUCATION
Each student-athlete received education on preferential treatment at regular intervals
throughout their three years on campus.

DISCOVERY OF THE VIOLATION


Connecticut learned of this information on March 6, 2016, during a joint interview with
the NCAA enforcement staff. has been interviewed twice. has been
interviewed three times. His father has been interviewed once. Hamilton has yet to be
interviewed. has volunteered his phone call logs and contact information for
Hamilton. Neither has been able to locate any records relating to the 2016 trip to date,
although counsel for the student-athletes continues to work with each.

MITIGATING CIRCUMSTANCES

There is no indication that either or intended to violate NCAA legislation.


In fact, raised the trip with his father, who affirmatively took the step to call the
head basketball coach to ensure that working out with a third-party trainer would not
constitute a violation of NCAA legislation. From that conversation, father
understood that it was permissible so long as the institution did not pay. Obviously, this
understanding was only partially accurate. At least in case, his violation
occurred despite a good-faith effort to comply with NCAA legislation. While there is no
information in the record to support acted on the same information, it is
reasonable to assume that he would have received the same information had he contacted
the head basketball coach to inquire about the permissibility of the workout or that he
could have received the same information from

RELIEF SOUGHT

The institution requests that and eligibility be restored immediately.


Further, the institution requests that SAR waive the 10% withholding due to the
mitigating circumstances surrounding the violation.

Should you need any additional information or have any questions, please feel free to
contact me at 860-486-1652 (office), 860-617-9660 (cell), and ann.fiorvanti@uconn.edu.

Sincerely,

Ann Fiorvanti

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Philippi, Megan

From: Michael Bailey <MichaelBailey@uconnaaup.org>


Sent: Monday, March 19, 2018 8:45 AM
To: Bannister, Kelly
Subject: Re: Kevin Ollie

Got it, thanks. 
 
MB 
Michael Bailey 
Executive Director 
UConn‐AAUP 
860‐487‐0450 
 
From: <Bannister>, Kelly <kelly.bannister@uconn.edu> 
Date: Sunday, March 18, 2018 at 7:17 PM 
To: Michael Bailey <michaelbailey@uconnaaup.org> 
Cc: Brian Doyle <briandoyle@fdclawoffice.com>, "Benedict, David" <david.benedict@uconn.edu> 
Subject: Kevin Ollie 
 
Michael, 
  
In response to your March 13, 2018 request for information, the University is producing the attached materials used to 
determine that there exists just cause for the termination of Kevin Ollie as set forth in David Benedict’s March 10, 2018 
letter.  
  
Please be advised that names and other personally identifiable information of students has been redacted in accordance 
with FERPA. For consistency and privacy, names and personally identifiable information of prospective students has 
been similarly redacted.  
  
Thanks,  
Kelly 
  
Kelly L. Bannister, Esq. 
Associate Director and Attorney 
  
Office of Faculty & Staff Labor Relations 
University of Connecticut 
9 Walters Avenue, Unit 5075 
Storrs, Connecticut 06269‐5075 
Tel: (860) 486‐2585 (direct) 
Tel: (860) 486‐5684 (main) 
Fax: (860) 486‐3390 
kelly.bannister@uconn.edu 
  
www.lr.uconn.edu 
  
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Philippi, Megan

From: Bannister, Kelly


Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2018 2:52 PM
To: Michael Bailey
Cc: Brian Doyle; Benedict, David
Subject: RE: Kevin Ollie
Attachments: Ollie Admin 1016-1055 Redacted.pdf

Michael, 
 
Please find attached additional responsive materials. 
 
Thanks, 
Kelly 
 
Kelly L. Bannister, Esq. 
Associate Director and Attorney 
 
Office of Faculty & Staff Labor Relations 
University of Connecticut 
9 Walters Avenue, Unit 5075 
Storrs, Connecticut 06269‐5075 
Tel: (860) 486‐2585 (direct) 
Tel: (860) 486‐5684 (main) 
Fax: (860) 486‐3390 
kelly.bannister@uconn.edu 
 
www.lr.uconn.edu 
 
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From: Bannister, Kelly  
Sent: Sunday, March 18, 2018 7:18 PM 
To: Michael Bailey (MichaelBailey@uconnaaup.org) <MichaelBailey@uconnaaup.org> 
Cc: Brian Doyle (briandoyle@fdclawoffice.com) <briandoyle@fdclawoffice.com>; Benedict, David 
<david.benedict@uconn.edu> 
Subject: Kevin Ollie 
 
Michael, 
 
In response to your March 13, 2018 request for information, the University is producing the attached materials used to 
determine that there exists just cause for the termination of Kevin Ollie as set forth in David Benedict’s March 10, 2018 
letter.  
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with FERPA. For consistency and privacy, names and personally identifiable information of prospective students has 
been similarly redacted.  
 
Thanks,  
Kelly 
 
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Associate Director and Attorney 
 
Office of Faculty & Staff Labor Relations 
University of Connecticut 
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From: Michael Bailey <MichaelBailey@uconnaaup.org>


Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2018 3:16 PM
To: Bannister, Kelly; Hood, Keith
Cc: Barbara Kratochvil
Subject: UConn-AAUP Information request

Ms. Bannister,
 
UConn‐AAUP hereby request's the following information for collective bargaining purposes: 
  
This request is for all Men's and Women's intercollegiate sports governed by the National Collegiate Athletic 
Association (NCAA) at the University of Connecticut (UCONN). 
  
Any and all NCAA Major Rules violations self‐reported by the University from January 1, 2009 through 
March 25, 2018 delineated by: 
Men's and Women's Head Coach self reporting 
UCONN Compliance Office self reporting 
Any and all NCAA Major Rules violations discovered by the NCAA from January 1, 2009 through March 25, 
2018; 
Any and all NCAA Minor Rules violations self‐reported by the University from January 1, 2009 through 
March 25, 2018 delineated by: 
Men's and Women's Head Coach self reporting 
UCONN Compliance Office self reporting 
Any and all NCAA Minor Rules violations discovered by the NCAA from January 1, 2009 – March 25, 2018. 
  
Timeliness of this information is extremely important. 
 
Thank you. 

Michael
Michael Bailey 
Executive Director 
UConn‐AAUP 
860‐487‐0450 

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From: Bannister, Kelly


Sent: Friday, March 30, 2018 5:10 PM
To: Michael Bailey
Cc: Brian Doyle; Benedict, David
Subject: RE: Kevin Ollie
Attachments: Ollie Admin 1056-1097.pdf; Ollie Admin 1098-1189.pdf

Michael, 
 
Please find attached further additional responsive materials. 
 
Thanks, 
Kelly 
 
Kelly L. Bannister, Esq. 
Associate Director and Attorney 
 
Office of Faculty & Staff Labor Relations 
University of Connecticut 
9 Walters Avenue, Unit 5075 
Storrs, Connecticut 06269‐5075 
Tel: (860) 486‐2585 (direct) 
Tel: (860) 486‐5684 (main) 
Fax: (860) 486‐3390 
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From: Bannister, Kelly  
Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2018 2:52 PM 
To: Michael Bailey <MichaelBailey@uconnaaup.org> 
Cc: Brian Doyle <briandoyle@fdclawoffice.com>; Benedict, David <david.benedict@uconn.edu> 
Subject: RE: Kevin Ollie 
 
Michael, 
 
Please find attached additional responsive materials. 
 
Thanks, 
Kelly 
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Kelly L. Bannister, Esq. 
Associate Director and Attorney 
 
Office of Faculty & Staff Labor Relations 
University of Connecticut 
9 Walters Avenue, Unit 5075 
Storrs, Connecticut 06269‐5075 
Tel: (860) 486‐2585 (direct) 
Tel: (860) 486‐5684 (main) 
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From: Bannister, Kelly  
Sent: Sunday, March 18, 2018 7:18 PM 
To: Michael Bailey (MichaelBailey@uconnaaup.org) <MichaelBailey@uconnaaup.org> 
Cc: Brian Doyle (briandoyle@fdclawoffice.com) <briandoyle@fdclawoffice.com>; Benedict, David 
<david.benedict@uconn.edu> 
Subject: Kevin Ollie 
 
Michael, 
 
In response to your March 13, 2018 request for information, the University is producing the attached materials used to 
determine that there exists just cause for the termination of Kevin Ollie as set forth in David Benedict’s March 10, 2018 
letter.  
 
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with FERPA. For consistency and privacy, names and personally identifiable information of prospective students has 
been similarly redacted.  
 
Thanks,  
Kelly 
 
Kelly L. Bannister, Esq. 
Associate Director and Attorney 
 
Office of Faculty & Staff Labor Relations 
University of Connecticut 
9 Walters Avenue, Unit 5075 
Storrs, Connecticut 06269‐5075 
Tel: (860) 486‐2585 (direct) 
Tel: (860) 486‐5684 (main) 
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INTERVIEW OF TRAVIS ILLIAN
UNIVERSITY OF CONNECTICUT
MARCH 22, 2018

RR: All right. I've got my recorder


going here. We're going to start. Okay. And I'll
just note that it is 10:33 a.m. Eastern Time, and I'm
in the offices of the NCAA in Indianapolis. And we
have others on the call, so for purpose of voice
identification, I'd like to ask each person on the
call to state their name and title, and we'll start
with Travis and the folks at Southern Utah.

TI: Travis Illian, director of sports


performance at Southern Utah University.

AA: Ann Marie Allen, general counsel


for Southern Utah University.

TB: Todd Brown, associate athletic


director for compliance at Southern Utah University.

RR: Annie?

AF: Annie Fiorvanti, the University


of Connecticut, associate AD for compliance.

HG: Henry Gimenez, outside counsel


for UConn.

RR: And I'm Russell Register, one of


the assistant directors of enforcement with the NCAA.
And just want to note for the record that I am
recording this interview, but before starting the
recording, I asked Travis if it was okay to record,
and Travis said it was; is that correct, sir?

TI: Yes, it is.

RR: Okay. Perfect. And then I also


just want to note for the record that Henry is
recording on behalf of the institution, but we have a
verbal agreement to keep that recording confidential
and not release that to any third parties; is that
correct Henry?

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HG: That's right.

RR: So prior to going on the record,


Travis, you received a form entitled the NCAA
interview notice form. Did you have a chance to read
that form?

TI: Yes.

RR: Okay. And do you understand that


the purpose of this interview is to determine whether
you have any knowledge of or involvement in any
violations of NCAA legislation?

TI: Yes.

RR: Do you understand that you may be


represented by personal legal counsel during this
interview?

TI: Yes.

RR: Do you understand that NCAA Bylaw


10.1 obligates you to provide truthful and complete
information in this interview?

TI: Yes.

RR: Okay. And do you understand that


if it is ever determined that you've provided false
or misleading information or withheld information in
this interview, then this could constitute a
violation of the NCAA principles of ethical conduct
and could impact your athletically-related duties as
a staff member at an NCAA institution?

TI: Yes.

RR: Do you understand the information


provided during this interview may be shared with
other NCAA departments?

TI: Yes.

RR: Do you have any questions


regarding any part of that interview notice form?

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TI: No, sir.

RR: Okay. And did you electronically


sign and date that form?

TI: Yes, I did.

RR: Okay. Awesome. Thank you,


Travis.
All right. So, Travis, I'm just going
to go straight back. I don't think it will be a long
interview today, so -- but wanted to kind of go back.
We had talked a bit about Derrek Hamilton, and I
know that that was a bit confusing at first because
there was -- there was a former student athlete by
the name of ; correct?

TI: Yes.

RR: Yeah.

TI: So once -- once you showed me the


picture, I knew exactly who you were talking about.

RR: Got you. So want to kind of go


back if we could. Previously when we talked, you had
mentioned that you had seen Derrek on campus
possibly in the years of '15, '16 -- the academic
years of '15, '16 and then the academic years of '16,
'17. Can you speak to what time during the year that
you saw him? Or kind of speak to that a bit, okay?

TI: I know that one time during the


year -- I know that there was some off season that I
saw him, so I know I saw him in the summertime. And
then I know I saw him either preseason, like October
-- we had either just started or just about to start
our 20 hours a week, so I would think it was later
October I remember seeing him. And then at the end
of the year, definitely saw him. And then I saw him
-- I mean, I think I saw him at a couple of games per
se, but I can't recall which games those were.

RR: Okay. So let's take that kind of


one at a time, if you don't mind. So when you saw

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him in the summer, do you remember what year that was
or anything like that?

TI: So -- Annie, can you help me out


here? from --

AF: Yes.

TI: What -- what year did he


graduate?

TI: was here in the


academic year.

RR: Right.

TI: So he was definitely there that


summer. He was -- so he was there part of that --
either one or two times during that summer because I
-- again, during the day I remember seeing him work
with on the court and then in the evening time
I -- I heard word that he was working with Iron
Leagues (phonetic) in the evening time. So I know
that that time during the summer, he was there.
Again, I would have to dig through old
e-mails and things to try to find out exact dates,
which I may or may not have. I couldn't tell you
right now off of my head. I think I downloaded all
of my e-mails when I left, but I don't know. And
then -- did that -- you wanted to go one by one;
correct?

RR: Yeah. So before -- before I move


on to the next one, when you say you would have to
check your e-mails, did you correspond with someone
about this or --

TI: I may have or I may not have.


But I know that -- so if that was that year, I think
it was the next year that we were -- we sent some
guys down to Atlanta to him, and I know that was
-- I can't remember if it was and at
least one other guy. Because he had sent me --
Derrek had sent me a video of them running up a
hill, but -- and I think that was through text. I
don't think that was through e-mail. So I would have

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to check my phone too, and who knows if I deleted it
or kept it or -- who knows.
So I think it was probably '15, '16.
Or '16 -- yeah, so '15, '16, and '16, '17. So
throughout those -- that whole year, he would -- or
year and a half, he would come in and out but small
-- I mean, small spurts of being there for a week or
being there for four or five days or somewhere around
there.

RR: Okay. Okay. Yeah, so, Travis,


let's kind of go through it. I just want to make
sure that we have the timeline accurate, okay?
So the first time that you recall him
-- ever seeing him on campus, was that the summer of
2015 when you saw him trying -- working with ?

TI: Either that or he was there right


at the end of that season too. Because -- and I want
to say he was there at the end of that season as well
because, again, I didn't know his role or what he was
doing, and he came in and really kind of said, you
know, I'm a friend of Kevin Ollie's, and I want to --
I want to watch your -- you mind if I watch your
workouts, and, you know, just watch a little bit, and
I think that was coming off of that season.
And I don't know how we did that
season, but I'm guessing we didn't do that well. And
so I wasn't sure if Kevin was having someone watch me
or what was going on, so -- But I remember him coming
in, I think at the end of that season.

RR: Do you remember what month was


that around? Was school out yet, or was school still
in session?

TI: School was still in session


because I remember he came in, and he was even
talking -- and he was talking to me, and Kevin had
made some suggestions about making him my assistant.
And at that point, I had went to Mo Butler, and I
was like, do you know anything about this? Can he be
my assistant? And -- because I didn't know what was
going on or why I necessarily needed an assistant.
So I remember that because when he
came in, I obviously didn't know his role, and no one

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had made it clear to me what his role was or how he
was tied or, you know, what was going on. I didn't
know that, and no one made it clear.
And obviously, at that time, Mo
Butler didn't -- she didn't have a clue either of
what that was -- going on. But from, you know,
everything we could ask him, he didn't have a
certification in strength and conditioning, so,
again, I was still trying to figure out what was
going on.

RR: Okay. Did Coach Ollie, did Kevin


Ollie have a conversation with you about wanting to
make him your assistant, or how did that come about?

TI: I think Derrek had either --


Derrek had -- at the end of a workout or something,
Derrek had kind of pulled me aside and said, you
know, I just want to be here for the guys and help
out however I can and, you know, I know Kevin -- and
again, I'm trying to recall the best I can, but
pretty much he was saying, you know, I know Kevin is
trying to pretty much find a way for me to work up
here and work with you, and --

RR: Did -- Coach Ollie, did he ever


talk with you about this, or did you ever have a
conversation with him about it?

TI: That's what I'm trying to recall.

RR: Okay.

TI: And I -- and I think I went into


Ricky Moore's office once and said, hey, tell me
what's going on because I don't understand what's
going on, and at that point, I don't even think Ricky
knew. Like he didn't know -- obviously, the staff
was full. They couldn't hire another basketball
assistant. So how my perception was, is they were
trying to find a way to hire him to -- to assist me
but also do basketball work. And obviously, nothing
-- they couldn't hire him -- or however that
happened, it didn't work.
But that was my always (sic) question,
is, as strength and conditioning, we're not supposed

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to be doing basketball work. So that's -- I remember
talking to Mo Butler about that because I wanted to
make sure that I was correct in my understanding of
it.
And I think when I talked to Kevin, he
was -- he wasn't for sure one way or the other
that he wanted to help our guys then. Because I -- I
asked him about Derrek, and he didn't give me any
concrete answers, like, yes, you know, he's going to
be your assistant. Now, I think he -- he said, you
know, I would like him to help you out, but he never
made the -- he never -- concrete like, yes, he is
going to help you out. He just said, you know, I
think he brings some different basketball stuff, and
pretty much I would like him to help you out.
But in the weight room, I never let
him do anything because pretty much I didn't know
him. And he watched a couple of times, but he never
did anything in the weight room.

RR: Do you --

TI: I --

RR: Go ahead, Travis.

TI: I would have to dig up one of my


old phones and try to look through and see if I could
find anything that would give me more concrete dates.
But I really think that it was the end of 2016 when I
saw him there at the end of the school year.
And then I want to say that summer we
sent some guys there, and I remember telling --
asking Coach Miller about it, and I said, you know,
why are we sending guys to Atlanta when I'm here? We
can feed them, I can lift them, and you can work
basketball with them. And Coach Miller said, I don't
get it either, but it is -- pretty much, it is what
it is. And --

RR: So --

TI: -- I don't know if that was that


summer or the summer after. I -- again, I would have
to go back and really try to gather all of my
thoughts and look at who was on which team and who we

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played and how we ended.

RR: And that's fine. Thank you,


Travis. So from -- from what you're recalling, you
know, right now, you recall him being on campus
towards the end of the 2016 school year, so possibly,
you said, before school was out. And then was he
there in the summertime training is that what
you recall seeing the one time?

TI: Yes. And then I think there was


a couple of guys that he worked with in the evening.
Now, I can't recall how long that -- that was. I
would think it was either one or two times for four
to five times -- for four to five days. Now, I think
he was staying in the hotel -- and, Annie, you'll
have to help me. What hotel is close to campus?

AF: Are you referring to the Nathan


Hale?

TI: Yeah, Nathan Hale. He was


staying at the Nathan Hale, from what I heard. So I
don't know if they have records of who stays there or
when, but that would be my best guess to find out
real definitive dates, so.

RR: And so you said -- you thought


that during one summer -- and I understand you said
you're not clear whether that was the summer of '15
or the summer of '17.

TI: Right.

RR: But there were a few guys that


were sent to go work with Derrek; is that correct?

TI: Yes.

RR: How did you find out about that?

TI: The guys told me, that's how I


found out. Because I said, hey -- you went on
building their summer program, but, you know, are
you going to be here first session, second session,
you know -- what's going on, you know, in your

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breaks? Are you going to be at home? Do you have a
gym? You know, so I'm asking the guys all of those
questions so that I can build their program around
what they will do. So usually they tell me, you
know, coach, I'm going to be -- you know, they would
tell me where they are going to be so that I could
build their workouts around where they were and what
access they had to a weight room or to track or
whatever.
So I think the guys had told me that.
And I know -- I'm pretty sure it was and
and one other guy. And I don't remember who it was.
It may have been . It may have been
somebody else. I don't know.

RR: Do you know did the -- I think


you spoke to this a little bit, but did the other
coaches know that they were going down there, or?

TI: I don't -- I don't know if they


knew before the fact, but after the fact (sic), you
know, when it was happening, they -- I would sure
think all of them knew. Yeah, and I knew -- like I
know Kevin knew. I knew Ricky knew. I know Coach
Miller knew because, again, I remember talking to
Coach Miller about it, and I remember asking Ricky
about it too. So I know those guys knew.
And then I don't know if -- I think
that was when -- the summer -- and, Annie, you'll
have to correct me if I'm wrong, but I think -- did
-- Coach Carl Hobbs was the year, was the summer of
2016?

AF: I would have to check that and


see. But I can -- I can look.

TI: Okay. So I think this was that


summer when Coach Hobbs had left because we hadn't
hired -- either we had just hired Dwayne to fill his
role or we hadn't hired a new one yet. But I think
they went down to Derrek's somewhere around July,
July 4th, somewhere around there.

RR: And did they tell you what they


did with Derrek, or?

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TI: They either stayed at Derrek's
house -- I think they stayed at Derrek's house, and
Derrek either worked -- how he described -- Derrek
described it to me, he either buys space or -- either
rents space at a country club or has sessions at a
country club and then gives the country club, you
know, a certain percentage of his earnings.
So they went there, and they – they’d
get up, have breakfast, do a workout, you know,
pretty much come back, rest, eat, and then go -- go
train or play basketball again later that day. And I
want to say they did that for five days, somewhere in
there. I don't think it was more than a week, but it
was -- I want to say 5 to seven days.

RR: Did -- so you think that they


said -- these student athletes told you that they
stayed at Derrek's house?

TI: I think so, yes.

RR: Do you know, did they have to pay


Derrek anything to stay at his house or to train
with him?

TI: I do not know that. They never


communicated that to me, and I never asked.

RR: Okay. And you said, kind of to


the best of your recollection, they would train kind
of a couple of times a day for about five days during
that time?

TI: Yes.

RR: And that was training directly


with Derrek?

TI: That's what I was told. And,


again, he -- I remember him sending me a video of
them running up a hill. So -- that -- that was -- I
don't know what -- what, you know, what day that was.
But from either asking the guys after the fact -- I
think I asked them, hey, what did you do? Give me
kind of a -- a breakdown of what your day was. And
they would say, you know, we would get up, have a

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little breakfast, then go train, then come back, have
lunch, and then hang out for a little bit, then go
train in the afternoon again, and then sometimes play
pickup games at night.

RR: Wanted to go back, Travis. You


mentioned that -- I think you mentioned before that
you had a conversation with Coach Miller, but you
said that you felt that Ricky Moore and Kevin Ollie
knew that -- that these student athletes had gone
during the summer to train with Derrek. Can you
think to how -- why do you think that Ricky and Coach
Ollie knew about this?

TI: I mean, there is just no way he


didn't know about it if -- Coach Ollie knew where
guys were going and when they were going during their
summer breaks. You -- I mean, I don't know of any
head coach that doesn't kind of know what their
athletes are doing during their breaks.
And from my perception of the whole
situation, Kevin -- Derrek wasn't doing all of this
with his own money. That was not my perception of
the situation. Again, it's my perception, but I
think, you know, he was being put up at the Nathan
Hale not on his own money but by Kevin's.
So, again, I don't think he was going
down there -- that our guys were going down there to
train with Derrek for free.

RR: Did Coach Ollie or any other


coaches ever say that they, you know, paid Derrek to
train any kids, or did you ever hear that?

TI: No. I did not hear that. I did


not ask that question. Again, that was just my
perception of the situation. Again, because I wasn't
told anything at first when Derrek showed up in my
weight room. I kind of had to put puzzle pieces
together to try to figure out, hey, who is this guy,
where did he come from, and what's his, you know,
relation to anyone.
And Derrek told me to my face, you
know, Coach Ollie is my boy. You know, he -- you
know, I want to do what I can for him, and he'll --
so just him saying that kind of made it clear of

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whose -- he wasn't tied to -- Derrek was tied to --
to Coach Ollie, not to Ricky or Glenn or Carl Hobbs.
Derrek was Kevin's -- Kevin made those decisions.

RR: Did you ever have any direct


conversations with Coach Ollie about -- about the
training that he was providing or the student
athletes that went there during the summer, do you
recall that?

TI: You know, if I did, it was in his


office, and I just said, hey, I pretty much heard
that these guys are going to train with Derrek from
this date to this date. And he just would say, yes,
and that's it. It wasn't any in-depth conversation.
It wasn't, here, I'm going to explain the situation
to you, Travis. It's an acknowledgment of it and
let's move on.

RR: Do you recall asking him that,


or?

TI: I think we had talked about it


just once in his office leading into the summer
because I -- I wanted to understand -- again, I was
trying to put together the pieces of the puzzle of
where does he fit, where do I fit, and, you know --
pretty much I was trying to figure out what was going
on. So I would ask questions, but it would -- his
explanation was never long. It was either a yes or a
no or a -- and I didn't ask in-depth questions.

RR: Do you know, did any of the


coaches know about the student athletes going to
train with Derrek in the summer before they went?

TI: Again, I think Kevin knew because


my whole perception of it was that Kevin set it up.
And whether, you know -- I'm sure they knew before.
How far before, I don't know. Like did we know a
week before, did we know a month before, I couldn't
recall that.

RR: And is that just based on -- when


you say "perception," what is that based on, I guess?

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TI: It is my perception of the whole
interaction between myself and Kevin and Derrek, you
know. Derrek was always talking straight to Kevin.
And then I was trying to piece together, I guess,
what's the relationship, what's his role here. Or --
and so I was trying to piece those puzzle pieces
together, but Derrek was -- and Kevin were friends,
or so -- that's the way Derrek described it to me,
and that's the way Kevin said it to me too.
So Derrek -- and I think even the
other coaches, myself included, were trying to figure
out, you know, as a staff, what -- do you think we're
not doing our job? Is that why you brought Derrek
here? You know, is he doing basketball drills with
guys because Ricky or Glenn or I -- or Ricky or Glenn
aren't -- or you aren't training them well? Or is --
is Derrek in the weight room because I'm not doing
my job well?
So we all had the idea -- we didn't --
so we knew that Derrek and Kevin's ties were -- were
friends. Again, none of us knew the depth of that
relationship, I don't think, but we knew they were
friends. And -- so obviously, we talked to each
other, and, again, talking to Coach Miller or Ricky,
I was trying to figure out what's Derrek's role
here.

RR: Did you -- going back. I think


you said that you had a conversation with Coach
Miller after the student athletes had trained with
Derrek during the summer --

TI: I think that was actually during


the time, while they were there.

RR: Okay.

TI: I think it was -- so they were


there for that week, and I remember walking through
the -- the -- from the weight room across the court
to the coach's locker room, and he came out of the
coach's locker room door, so we were both standing on
the court.
Now you can ask me your question, but
I'm -- it was that week that they were there.

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RR: Okay. Yeah. And no, my question
was just what was that conversation. What did that
entail?

TI: It was really the question of why


are we sending these guys to Derrek. And not only
does it -- from my perspective, it hurt my time to
get the guys from where I needed them to be and their
strength levels and their conditioning levels because
I couldn't control it because they weren't with me.
And Coach Miller's concern was when you're -- if
you're sending kids to someone else, that makes it
look like, to the student athlete, that you don't
trust your staff.
So his question was on Kevin, why are
you sending -- we were talking just trying to
understand the situation. But his point to me was:
Travis, you know, if we send these guys to do
basketball skills, Coach Miller said, you know, I'm
paid to be a basketball coach. You know, I can have
a certain amount of hours with these kids, and when
they're not here, I can't do anything with them. But
then when they come back, and if they can't do a
basketball skill, it's on Coach Miller.
So it didn't make sense to him or me
why this was happening. So I think more than
anything, we were just -- that's what we were
discussing, is why are these kids going to Derrek?
Pretty much, are you not doing your job, or am I not
doing my job? And either way, it hurts our
credibility and our, supposedly, family atmosphere
that we're supposed to create.

RR: Did Coach Miller in that


conversation, did he say that they were sent there by
Coach Ollie, or was that just his guess?

TI: You know, we didn't ever say that


because -- we never said who they were sent by or not
sent by. I guess we just both -- because that, to
us, that wasn't the determining factor of anything.
But again, Derrek was Kevin's friend. There wasn't
-- and the kids that were sent there, I don't know if
they paid or not, but none -- they don't come from a
lot of money.
So again, I'm purely speculating, but

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that money was coming probably from Kevin because how
do you feed three or four kids, train them for five
days, and still make your -- pay all of your bills?
I mean, that's my thought process if you're focusing
on three guys from UConn.

RR: How did Coach Miller know that


the student athletes were there, do you recall?

TI: It wasn't a secret. I mean,


again, the kids told us, and -- my guess would be
that they talked about it in a staff meeting. I
wasn't in on that staff meeting. And I would guess
the coaches didn't have very much say in it. I would
think Kevin said, this is how it is, and -- so that's
-- he didn't -- but everyone knew.
And I think at that point, it was --
maybe -- I don't think Carl Hobbs was there, so I
just remember talking to Coach Miller and Ricky and
maybe Kevin Freeman. Kevin Freeman knew too, again,
because he was supposed to keep track of everybody.
He was the director of ops, so Kevin Freeman would
have known too.

RR: When you talked to Coach Moore,


to Coach Ricky Moore, what was that conversation
about?

TI: I was asking pretty much what was


-- if he knew anything about Derrek. Was he joining
our staff, was he not joining our staff? You know, I
was trying to figure out, again, the puzzle piece of
I didn't know who Derrek was and his relation to
anybody. So that was my conversation with Ricky.

RR: Did you also talk any about the


kids going there to train or --

TI: Yes, because I remember asking him


the same question I asked Coach Miller, why are we
sending these kids there? And his exact answer was
the same as Coach Miller's, I don't know. Because
again, for Ricky or for Coach Miller, it kind of made
them look like you're not coaching me, so I'm sending
you to somebody else. So it hurt -- to them as
coaches, I think they took it -- you can't take that

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in a positive way, I don't think. You take that in
somewhat of a negative, hard -- because it's like
that's what you're there to do, is coach them on
basketball.

RR: In both of those conversations, I


think you unintelligible) to Coach Miller's, but the
one that you had with Ricky, was that during the time
that the student athletes were training with Derrek
in -- off campus? Or when did that conversation take
place?

AA: I'm sorry. Do you mind my


interrupting? I -- I actually have to go, and I just
wanted to make sure that you were aware of that.

RR: Okay. Thank you.

AA: Thanks, have a great day.

RR: You too.

TI: So you were asking me when I


talked with Coach Moore?

RR: Yes. When did that -- when did


that conversation take place?

TI: That was -- I think that was


actually when I first started to see Derrek on
campus, so probably after that season in 2016 until
-- I don't know what date we were out, March
whatever. Then in April, we had a couple of weeks to
train, and I think that's when Derrek came. And --
so I think I went up to -- to Ricky and asked, hey,
you know, tell me a little bit about Derrek, where
his role is. And then when he didn't know very much
then, then during the summer --
And again, I don't know -- I think
when I talked to Coach Miller and the guys were
training down with Derrek, I think Coach Miller -- I
think that was recruiting time, so I think Coach
Miller was recruiting in the north east, so he would
go take a trip to a school close and come back. But
I think Ricky was -- Ricky was actually recruiting in
the south at that time, so I don't -- while the kids

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were down there, I don't think Ricky was at the
complex.
But I remember talking to Ricky two
times about it. One, trying to figure out who
Derrek was; two, you know, about why is he training
our kids? So there are two separate things, pretty
much: One, who is he; two, why is he training our
kids?

RR: Do you know if Coach Miller was


aware that the student athletes were going to train
with Derrek before they went, or was he only aware
after, or do you recall?

TI: I don't think we talked about it.


But again, I think -- I don't think it was a secret,
and I think Kevin and the kids made it known that
they were going for a week or so to train with
Derrek. So I -- I think everyone knew that they
were going down there.
And I even remember going into Amanda
Kimball's office saying, what are we doing? Why are
we training -- why are we sending kids down there to
train? Just because I needed to vent.

RR: Yeah. Thank you, Travis. I


appreciate it. I kind of want to go back to the time-
line -- and sorry. I know we took kind of a detour
there, but I appreciate you giving us your best
recollections of all of that.
Kind of going back, we've kind of --
as far as a timeline, I think you said that the
first time that you remember Derrek being on campus
was at the end of the 2016 season, and that's when he
kind of asked to sit in on some of your workouts. Do
you recall, during that time that he was there, was
he training student athletes, do you recall?

TI: Yes. And I think that was --


again, the only one I saw during the day was
. But I know guys were doing some stuff with
him at night --

RR: Do you recall which -- which


student athletes that was?

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TI: I think it was quite a few. I
think it was -- at that time it was , ,
, . It was mostly
. I don't remember -- like I don't ever
remember or telling me that
they were doing anything with him. It was all --
most of the at that time.

RR: And was this during the time


before school was out?

TI: Yes. It may have been -- at


first -- every time he came into town, he was
training kids, so -- in the evening. Because I even
remember him saying to or , hey, I'll see
you at 8:30 or 9:00. So it was in the evening time.
But, again -- I guess I got detoured
on your question. What was your question?

RR: That's okay. The times that you


recall that he --

TI: I think there's another --


another time in -- so there was a time, I think,
right after school -- or right after season. And
then I want to say he also came back that May. So I
know there's very few guys there. So you have -- it
was either May or early June. We didn't have a ton
of guys there. We probably had four or five or seven
guys.
So he came back, and I remember him --
and I -- I think was done and trying to go play
pro. So when I saw him training during the
day, I thought, well, I don't know what this deal is
or who is paying him to play during the day, but
was done at UConn, you know.
But I still heard that -- through the
guys because they were coming to me tired, and I
would say why are you tired? Well, you know, I had
something with Derrek in the evening. I said, well,
how long did you go? An hour and a half. I said --
and I would ask, you know, was it hard, easy, medium?
And so they would usually tell me -- because to me --
again, my goal wasn't to fatigue my athletes, so I
was trying to figure out what they were doing a
little bit so that I could react properly and train

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them properly.
So I would try to get as much
information as I could from the guys so that I knew
like, do I need to give them rest? Do I need to --
you know, what do I need to do as a professional.

RR: Travis, I'm going to go back over


this timeline, and you correct me if I'm wrong,
okay? I don't want to put words in your mouth and
all of that. I just want to make sure I have it
right, okay?

TI: Sounds good.

RR: Okay. So the first time that you


recall Derrek Hamilton coming on campus -- or seeing
him on campus was at the end -- or after season but
still during the school year of 2015. And during
that time, did the indicate to you -- and the
, I mean the ones that you recall possibly being
there, , , , .
Did they indicate to you during that time that they
were having some training sessions with Derrek
Hamilton in the evenings possibly for an hour and a
half; is that correct?

TI: Yes.

RR: And then later on during that --


we'll call it during the summer, May, early June, so
that's after the school year has ended. You recall
seeing Derrek Hamilton train with , but this
was after had already spent his student
eligibility; is that correct?

TI: Right. So if we looked back and


finished in , then I'm perfectly on the
right time line. Now, if he finished in , I'm a
year early.

RR: No, I believe he finished in


.

TI: Okay. Then, yeah. Then that's


the correct timeline then.

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RR: So working from there, do you
recall did -- and then of course, I think -- I think
you said during that summer is when and
and another student athlete went to train with
Derrek in Atlanta. But after that time period, do
you recall Derrek Hamilton coming back to campus?

TI: I think the next time I saw him


come back to campus was either late September or
early October. It was -- it was once we had begun
school again, and we had either -- you know, we were
either going from 8 to 20 hours or we had just
started practice. It was somewhere in there. So it
had to be, again, I would think late September. It
was sometime either September or early October.

RR: And this was still 2016; is this


correct? During the fall of 2016?

TI: Correct.

RR: Can you recall, what was he doing


during that time period? Or how long -- how long was
he there?

TI: You know, he usually -- he was


usually always there about three to five days.
That's what I recall the most, is it was usually
three to five days. I don't ever remember it being
more than a week. And I remember asking him, hey,
when am I going to see you next, and he said, well, I
come up here whenever I can.

RR: Do you recall what he was doing


on campus during that time that he was there late
September, early October?

TI: Kind of the same thing he would


always do. He would usually train guys in the
evening. He would come in usually during the day and
ask if it was all right for him to work out and/or
watch my workouts. And I would usually say, yeah,
it's all right. So he would usually watch my workout
and then do some type of workout on his own.

RR: When you say he was training

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guys, did you ever see those sessions, or were those
times that you heard from the student athletes that
they had training sessions?

TI: I think there was one time in the


evening that I walked by. And the only reason I
remember is because he had one of those -- he had a
couple of things that I hadn't seen before. He had
Hula-Hoops on the ground that the guys had to jump
in. They would catch the ball and shoot from inside
the Hula-Hoop, and he would do -- those floaties, the
noodles that kids swim with in the pool, he would be
holding those, and guys would have to shoot over
those, over the noodles.
So -- and I don't remember if that was
-- again, for me to be at work around 7:00 or
something usually meant we had practice that day.
And so when we would finish practice, I would do work
with anyone that needed tissue work or maybe they
missed workouts from that day because they had class,
so I would do the workout with them. And then I
would go up and get dinner, and then when I walked by
the basketball court, he was training somebody.

RR: Do you recall who that was that


you saw in there with him during that one time that
you walked by?

TI: I think it was three guys.


Again, I'm -- I think it was ,
, and .

RR: Was it -- during that time that


he was there September, early October of 2015, was it
similar to the time before that -- were student
athletes telling you that they had training sessions?
Did they mention that at all?

TI: Yeah. I mean, they never hid it,


and they were -- they would ask him for it, so they
all had his cell phone number. So they would text
back and forth and I think set up a time that he was
going to work with them.

RR: Do you know did the coaches have


any involvement in that, or did they know about it?

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TI: They definitely knew about it
because -- I mean, I saw -- I saw -- Kevin was always
around -- Derrek was never there when Kevin was not.
So if Kevin was off recruiting somewhere, Derrek was
never there by himself.
So any time -- and sometimes Derrek
would watch our practices. I don't recall when he
would watch our practices. I would make me think
early October. But again, I guess as a staff and as
-- even as players, I think we all knew that there
was a relationship between Derrek and Kevin. We
didn't know what that relationship was because it
wasn't defined publically to us, but we knew there
was a relationship there.

RR: Do you recall -- you mentioned


that the student athletes would text Derrek to set
up the sessions. Was it always something where it
was voluntary for them to do, or did they think that
they needed to set up these sessions? What was --
what's your recollection of that?

TI: I don't ever remember any coach


saying that it was mandatory, but it wasn't -- from
how I perceived it as a strength coach, it was kind
of like, hey, he's in town. If you -- if you're not
getting with him, then Kevin is going to hear that
you don't care, that you don't -- you're not willing
to put in extra work. And if you're not willing to
put in extra work, that's going to get back to Kevin.

RR: Do you ever remember someone


saying that specifically?

TI: No. But I remember guys -- I


mean, I remember asking, and I don't remember if it
was -- I think it was . I said, you
know, has he helped you? Because I was trying to
figure out is anything he's doing even helping you.
And he goes, yeah, coach, I think he is. And again,
when he said that to me, all I could go back to was
my conversation with Coach Miller. If -- even if the
athletes think that they're helping them, does that
hurt the athletes listening to Coach Miller or Coach
Ricky Moore and does that hurt our team chemistry?

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So for me, I was trying to assess are
we thinking we're getting better but messing up our
team chemistry because no one really -- this guy
doesn't have a defined role, and he's not on staff,
you know? He just kind of shows up -- for me, it was
so random. He just showed up, you know. And I
remember even coming home to my wife saying, guess
who showed up today? Because I never knew when he
was coming. He would just show up.

RR: Did the student athletes ever


express -- I mean, did they feel like this was
voluntary or that they needed to do it?

TI: They didn't express it one way


either -- or the other. They always did it. And I
know some of them were fatigued because they were
either -- you know, if we had practice and they were
doing that and then had classes, they were tired from
it. So I always remember even if I had a plan in the
weight room, I had to change my plan so that I could
-- so that the kids could recover.

RR: Do you recall, did any of the


student athletes ever mention that they had to pay to
train in these sessions or anything like that?

TI: No. And again, I don't think


they paid.

RR: And the sessions when Derrek


Hamilton was at campus, where were those at? Do you
recall?

TI: Those were in the Werth Center.


They were never in Gampel. They were always in the
Werth.

RR: Travis, after that time that you


recall him being on campus late September, early
October of 2016, do you recall Derrek ever being
back on campus after that?

TI: Yes. Because I think he came


after the 2000 -- well -- I think he was there -- I
think he came to campus to watch a game or so, but I

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have no clue what game it was.

RR: Do you remember what season that


was? Was it the '16, '17 --

TI: It -- it had to be because I -- I


left in 2017; right? So I left at the end of the
2017, so I think I saw him one more time before I
left. Yeah, I think that was -- that was the last
time I saw him, was probably at a game.

RR: Do you recall, did you ever see


him at any games during the '15, '16 season, so that
year before?

TI: I thought my span of knowing


Derrek actually lasted longer than just one summer,
so -- and obviously when I left UConn, I didn't have
any connection to him. So I would think that I got
to know of him or about him before that. Because I
don't think I just got to know him one summer because
in 2000 -- I think I got to know him before the --
the year before because he came in, and then I took a
job interview at another school, and from -- and I
don't even have a clue who this -- who I heard this
from, but when I was taking that job -- or when I was
looking at that job, Kevin asked me, and it was my
perception, that they were trying to get Derrek a
certification so that he -- if I left, he could be
the strength and conditioning coach. And obviously I
didn't end up leaving that year, but I met him the
summer before or -- either that was the summer before
or September, October of that year before. So I --
he was definitely -- he wasn't as -- he wasn't as
around as much as he was the next year, but he made
-- maybe one or two times that he came in.

RR: So you think that you might have


seen him in the fall of 2015, or --

TI: Yeah. Fall --

RR: So -- you can go ahead, Travis.


I'm sorry.

TI: Yeah, I think it was the fall of

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2015. And that's probably when I had my first
conversation with Coach Moore trying to figure out
who he was and what he was doing. I mean, and I
think he trained people that -- the first time -- he
never came to campus and didn't train people, that
I'm aware of.
Now, there was maybe one time where he
came to campus and he just watched a game or came to
campus, had a beer or two with the guys, and watched
the game, and that was it. But every other time he
came to campus, trained for three to five days, and
then was gone.

RR: Travis, thank you for -- for


sticking with me through all of that. I appreciate
you giving me your best recollections of everything.
I'm going to pause there and see if Henry or Annie
have any follow-up questions, okay?

TI: Okay.

HG: Hey, Travis, this is Henry. How


are you?

TI: Good. Sorry I don't have a


better memory.

HG: No, it's fine. And that's what's


critical to this process. We appreciate you giving
us your best guess. So what I want to try to do now
is just like we did the first time we were together,
Travis, is -- because this affects so many people, to
really understand what you know versus maybe what you
were told versus sort of what you think, okay?

TI: Okay.

HG: And so I just want to sort of


back up. You've made a couple of mentions that the
coaches knew sort of about this Derrek Hamilton
issue, particularly the Atlanta trip, but I just want
to go through. Let's start with what you -- who you
know, meaning you had an actual conversation with or
they said something to you about the Atlanta trip.
You know you had a conversation with Glenn Miller
about some kids being in Atlanta training with

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Derrek; right?

TI: Yes.

HG: You believe you had a specific


conversation with Ricky Moore about kids being in
Atlanta; is that right?

TI: Yeah. Or at least us all


acknowledging that they were there, yes.

HG: Okay. And do you know in


proximity to that trip when that conversation
occurred?

TI: Not with Ricky.

HG: Okay.

TI: But I do remember with Coach


Miller. It was -- it was either the week they were
gone or somewhere close to -- there was hardly anyone
at the facility. I think he had and --
or he had two guys there. And there was very little
athlete training that I had to do, so I remember
walking across the court and having a physical
conversation with him on the court.

HG: Okay. And him being Ricky?

TI: No, that was Glenn Miller.

HG: Okay. And then let's talk about


Amanda Kimball. You said -- did you specifically
talk to her about Atlanta or simply about Hamilton
training kids on campus? Or both?

TI: Both. I remember going into her


office and saying -- I mean, it was purely me
venting, but saying, well, why are we sending kids to
Atlanta?

HG: Okay. And let me stop you there.


Do you believe that conversation took place while the
kids were there or some point after?

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TI: I actually think it was slightly
-- obviously it wasn't when the kids were there. So
it either was right before they left or while they
were there.

HG: Okay. And then you mentioned


Kevin Freeman keeps track of where kids were. Did
you have ever a -- and you said you think he would
know. Did you ever have a specific conversation with
Kevin about the kids going to or being in Atlanta at
any point?

TI: I think we brought it up in his


office, and I said, you know, it's -- and
are going to Derrek's this time? And he said, yes.

HG: Okay. So do you recall that with


certainty, or that's just something you think
happened?

TI: I'm 90 percent sure that


happened.

HG: Okay. And you said, "we went in


there." Was it just you and Kevin, or was somebody
else with y'all?

TI: It was just me and Kevin Freeman.

HG: Okay. And then let's continue


down the list. We talked a lot about Coach Ollie and
what he knew. Did you ever have a specific
conversation about any kids traveling to Atlanta to
train with Derrek?

TI: Again, the same type of


conversation I had with Kevin Freeman. I said -- we
had some type of conversation where I acknowledged
and he acknowledged that these guys were with Derrek
in Atlanta.

HG: Okay. Do you have any idea --


would that just have been a conversation with you and
Kevin, or would other folks have been there?

TI: With Coach Ollie?

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HG: Right.

TI: That was just me and him.

HG: Okay. Any idea as to when that


conversation took place?

TI: It was before they were going,


again, because I was trying to plan their workouts,
so I was trying to get as much information as I could
on, hey, what are they doing there? What are they
not doing there? What do I need to do for my role to
write workouts for them? And pretty much I was told,
you don't have to do anything. You know, you have
your summer workouts -- give them your summer
workouts, and Derrek will make sure it's done.

HG: Okay. So did you ever -- you're


saying that now -- that Coach Ollie told you to get
information to Derrek that he put the kids through a
workout while they were in Atlanta?

TI: No, I gave the kids their summer


workouts. So I never gave any -- I don't recall
giving anything to Derrek. I gave it to the
athletes.

HG: Do you recall -- are you telling


me you recall Kevin Ollie specifically telling you to
get the kids workouts to Derrek somehow, whether it
was through the kids or through Derrek so --

TI: No, Kevin never said that. Now,


I told Kevin that I gave the guys the workout. But I
was trying to figure out what they were doing there
so -- one, so I know what -- so I would have an idea
what they were doing, and two, so when they came back
to me, I knew, are they fatigued? What kind of
workouts did you do? You know, because if you're
doing what I would call a whole bunch of long
distance training, I'm not going to take you for long
distance training to making you run fast because I
don't want you to pull a hamstring or get injured or
whatever. So I was always trying to gather
information on what they were doing so that I could

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not injure them and train them properly.

HG: Okay. All right. One other


thing we talked about --

TI: Kevin acknowledged that they were


going down there, but he never told me to give them
anything. He never told me -- he never explained.
Most of the information I always got was from the
athletes and then the one time where Derrek sent me
a video of them running.
I think I texted him. I asked -- text
Derrek, how is everybody doing? And he sent me a
video of them running a hill.

HG: Okay. Do you think you could


still hunt that text or text string down?

TI: You know, I can -- I don't have


it on this phone. I could -- it's an older phone, so
I would have to -- I know where the phone is. I know
it's not charged, so I would have to go plug it in
and then see if it pulls up anything. I don't know
if I -- it will delete all of this. I couldn't tell
you. But I can go look.

HG: Yeah. I mean, I don't want to


speak for Russell, but I think that would be helpful
as we try to pin down dates and participants. If you
have access to that, to get whatever information you
could for it for us.

RR: Yes, sir -- this is Russell.


Yes, if you could look back and try to find that
video and get that to us, that would be a big help.

TI: Yeah. I'll look for that.

HG: And then shifting gears, Travis,


we talked about payment. We had talked about payment
the first interview, and the first interview, I'm
looking at the transcript, it suggests you had some
level of conversation with Derrek, and he told you
that the kids could come train with him for free.
Did you ever hear any other suggestion to contradict
that idea that he was training these kids for free?

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TI: No, other than -- again, my
perception was -- obviously, most of these kids
didn't come from money, and I knew that. So they
don't have money to pay somebody. So -- and just
Derrek's conversation that, you know, Kevin was his
boy, and that Kevin would always take care of him, I
had the assumption, you know -- again, if you're --
if people are going to train with me, I can't pay for
everything for you. I wish I could.

HG: I get it, but I'm just trying to


see if this -- is this one of the boxes where Travis
is telling us he knows Kevin Ollie or somebody else
that was not the student athletes paid for anything,
or this is just what you're trying to put two and two
together and assuming?

TI: This is -- no one ever told me,


and I never asked. That was me putting puzzle pieces
together. So, yes, I don't have proof. No one ever
was -- no one ever said, hey, this person paid me
this. That never happened.

HG: Okay. And then you --

TI: But --

HG: Go ahead.

TI: It was me putting -- it was me


putting puzzle pieces together of, you know -- it was
just all puzzle pieces of me trying to figure out the
situation, where Derrek fit into that situation, and
how -- how you afforded to do -- to come up to UConn
and how we afforded to send guys to you.

HG: I hear you. Okay. And then you


mentioned you thought that Derrek Hamilton was being
put up at the Nathan Hale with Kevin Ollie's money.
Is that just again you sort of trying to put two and
two together, or is that something you know happened
or somebody told you?

TI: It was putting -- again, I don't


know who told me where he was staying or -- I think

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maybe Derrek said he was staying at the Nathan Hale.
So again, Derrek could have well paid for his own
room at the Nathan Hale. I don't know that. But I
remember asking Derrek, you know, where are you
staying, and he said, at the Nathan Hale.

HG: Okay. But he never suggested -- he


never took the additional step that somebody else was
paying for it?

TI: No.

HG: Okay.

TI: He did not make that clear to me.

HG: And then one other thing you


mentioned today which was a little different than the
first time we talked was now having seen a couple of
guys training on campus. Because I think the first
time we spoke, you mentioned the only person you ever
saw specifically training was . But now
you recall today a specific session on campus with I
think you said a handful of ; is that right?

TI: I really think so. And I --


again, the only time that I really was on campus
after 7:00 was -- we would have practice and then
like I told you, I work with an athlete or two --

HG: Sure.

TI: -- and then I'd go grab dinner


upstairs, and then I would pretty much walk to my car
and head home. And so I know there was one time
where were doing drills with him. Now, I
couldn't tell you when. And it wasn't .
It was three or four of our , and it was
, Derrek -- , , and I
don't know if -- I don't know if was in there
or not. But it was -- it was that time period, when
those guys were all there.

HG: Okay.

TI: It wasn't (unintelligible).

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HG: Okay. So you -- you now -- so
there's two in your mind. There's now two clear
instances of Derrek Hamilton training on campus.
One was , and you're not sure when in time that
related to finishing up at UConn. But now
certainly also, Derrek meeting one evening where you
physically saw him on the court with multiple, what
you believed then to be, current student athletes?

TI: Yes.

HG: Okay.

TI: Now, I -- I'm pretty for sure of


this, that was already done, and he was
training to obviously try to get some type of
professional -- or get picked up by somebody. When
was training with him in the gym, that was like
in the middle of the day. But that was after
was done at UConn. He had just came there to train,
and so, obviously, we let him use our facility to
train.

HG: I got you. So -- so I guess to


maybe put a bow on that, you seem to recall at least
one instance on campus -- you only recall one
instance on campus where you saw Derrek Hamilton
training current student athletes at the Werth
facility, and you think that would have been --

TI: The time period of, you know,


those three or four . And again, the only way
I would have saw that in the evening was we had to
have had practice. I wouldn't have stayed that late
if I didn't have to.

HG: I got you. And then one other


thing I think is all I have left. You mentioned some
texts between the kids and Derrek sort of talking
about -- you know, the kids asking for training. Did
you ever see any of those texts? Were you ever a
part of any of those texts?

TI: No. I didn't ever see it, but I


remember asking. One of the kids was either --

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because I usually don't allow cell phones in the
weight room, and he had his cell phone, and I said,
what are you doing? And he said, I'm texting Derrek
because I need to get a time with him.

HG: Okay.

TI: And so that's -- that's how I


know that that was going on.

HG: Do you remember who that kid was?

TI: I think that was .

HG: Okay. And do you know when in


time? Would this have been in that same sort of time-
frame, towards the end of the '15, '16 season or
school year?

TI: No, I actually think that was


going into the season, so like September, October.

HG: So you think that was maybe the


last time you remember Derrek on campus at least
training people as opposed to coming to a game?

TI: Yes.

HG: Okay. Thanks. I think -- let me


flip through my notes. Russell or Annie, if y'all
have anything, feel free to go ahead and have the
floor.

RR: Annie, do you have anything?

AF: Let me take a look too. I don't


think I have anything, though.

HG: And let me -- let me ask you


this, Travis, I know you're going to look for the
text, but do you specifically recall a -- the text
string with Derrek or when he sent you the video of
the kids, was any other staff member or anybody else
a part of that string, or was it just between you and
him?

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TI: Just between him and I.

HG: Okay.

TI: Now -- now I do think -- I do


remember -- now that you said that, I do remember
Kevin Ollie saying that -- I said something to the
point of the guys said they worked hard with Derrek,
and Kevin said, yeah, I saw some video.

HG: Okay.

TI: So I -- Derrek -- I think


Derrek had sent some -- probably -- I don't know
what video he had sent to Kevin, but Kevin had
recollection of that --

HG: Okay so let's --

TI: -- or knew of that.

HG: Let's unpack that. So you think


that conversation with Kevin was at or around the
same time you had received the video from Derrek
individually?

TI: No. That was probably -- in my


mind, I think that was the week after. Again because
I think -- while those guys were gone, I think either
coaches were recruiting or Kevin had -- was on
vacation. So when he came back, I usually had a
weekly report of how guys did for me, so I reported,
hey, these guys weren't here, but when I talked to --
when I talked to -- or when I heard from Derrek, he
said they were training hard, and that was the extent
of me going into that. And Kevin said -- Kevin Ollie
said that he -- he heard the same thing and saw a
video of them.

HG: Okay. Do you -- because we're


trying to put down dates and things, Travis, do you
guys -- do you sort of send this weekly summary
report in a kind of e-mail, or was it -- or is it
always verbal?

TI: You know, because I've been

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moving, I just found my -- pretty much my jump drive
that has everything on it, and I think it probably
has my weekly reports on it, so I would have to go
back and look. Now, I don't have a clue if I -- I
know I didn't put, these guys are training with
Derrek at this time, but I have a report of what my
weeks looked like. So I'll look for that --

HG: Okay. That would be helpful.

TI: -- (unintelligible).

HG: Okay. And then just let me ask


you a weird sort of question. Have you -- have you
talked to anybody associated with UConn since your
first interview?

TI: Yes.

HG: Who have you spoken with?

TI: I've talked with -- I talked with


Coach Miller mostly about, you know, him looking for
a job. Obviously he has a job, and he's happy in
that job, but now is the time that basketball coaches
move around.

HG: Okay. Anybody else since your


last interview that you've talked to associated with
UConn?

TI: I texted with James Doran, and I


said, pretty much, I was thinking of you. I hope
everything is going well. And then I asked for Dave
Kaplan's number because when I switched phones, I
lost his number. But I didn't -- I didn't ever end
up reaching out to -- we call him Kappi(phonetic)
because -- I didn't reach out to him -- well,
actually, I did text with him. I just said, I hope
all things are going well, and he said he was doing
well, but he wasn't traveling with the basketball
team this year. So that -- I did text with Kappi.

HG: Okay. When do you think your


conversation with Glenn took place?

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TI: I talked to him -- since you and
I -- since you guys were here?

HG: Right.

TI: Probably two times. I talked to


him this past -- what's this week? I talked to him
last week mostly -- I had sent him a couple of jobs
because -- I think the NAU job came open, someone
said that the Boise State job was coming open, and
then Utah State had come open. So I called him last
week to see if he was interested or -- and he said he
was -- you know, he was just looking at this point.

HG: Okay. Did UConn come up at all


or Kevin Ollie's job status, anything like that?

TI: All we -- all we said is -- I


said, you know, I'm pretty much happy that I'm not
going through all of that right now because I felt
like I've been through enough, and he said, yeah, me
too.

HG: Anything else?

TI: No, that was it.

HG: Okay. And you said two times


with the most recent being last week. How -- where
was this first call in proximity between your last
interview and today?

TI: Probably a month before that.


Again, I don't know when I talked with you, but
probably a month before -- a month --

HG: Okay. We --

TI: Probably three weeks.

HG: We talked on February 5th the


first time.

TI: February. So I probably talked


to him two or three weeks after I talked to you.

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HG: Okay. Did UConn come up in that
call at all?

TI: Just about the guys -- I mean,


just about their -- I said, hey, have you seen any of
the UConn games, and he said, you know, I really
don't watch them, but people will say stuff to me
about them.

HG: Okay.

TI: I said, I understand.

HG: All right. I think that's all I


have right now, Russell or Annie.

RR: Okay. That's all I've got,


Henry. Is there anything final, or are you good to
--?

HG: And let me just ask this one


question because I haven't. We talked about sort of
your conversations with Glenn, Ricky, Amanda, KO,
Kevin. At any point in time -- you know, we talked
the first time about going to compliance or Deb or
somebody. At any point in time did you ever raise
the Derrek Hamilton issue with anybody in
compliance?

TI: Just to Deb. And I don't even


know if I brought that up to Deb, so, no, I can't
recall ever saying -- again, I would say the first
two or three times, I didn't even know who Derrek
was and what he was doing or how it all worked.
Looking back, it's quite clear that I should have
walked right over and said, hey -- to compliance --
what's going on here? I did not. If I could go
back, I would probably do that. But I didn't know
what was going on.

HG: Yeah. That's fair. Okay. I


think that's all I have.

RR: Annie, did you have anything?

AF: No, I'm all set. Thank you.

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RR: No problem. All right, Travis,
well, I want to thank you for taking the time to talk
to us today, and -- and sticking with us through
this. We appreciate your cooperation with us.
Before I go over, you know, just this
last announcement about confidentiality, do you have
anything you want to add or clarify to what we've
talked about?

TI: No. And I'll -- I'll look for


the video, if I have that text still, and I'll look
up any weekly progress reports I have and if any of
them say anything about when those guys went to
Atlanta.

HG: Great.

RR: Yeah so you can send those --


kind of like last time with the records that you sent
me. You can just give me a call or send them to me.
That would be good.

TI: Okay.

RR: Perfect. All right. So the last


thing I need to tell you is that NCAA legislation
requires that you help protect the integrity of this
investigation; therefore, as the investigation
continues, we ask that you're not permitted to speak
with others about what we've discussed today or any
information related to this investigation except that
you may speak with personal legal counsel, others on
the call, and myself. Failure to protect the
integrity of this investigation could result in an
allegation that you've violated the principles of
ethical conduct and/or the cooperative principle. So
do you understand those statements, Travis?

TI: Yes.

RR: At some point after the NCAA


completes its investigation, someone else involved as
a party in this case or their attorney, legal
counsel, or representative may request to interview
about matters related to this case, and we encourage

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you to agree to speak with them just as you've agreed
to speak with us. This doesn't, however, include any
representatives from the media. So we ask that you
do not speak with the media about this case.
If you do have any questions about who
you can and cannot talk to, please feel free to
reach out to me. I'm happy to help.
Do you have any final questions for
me, Travis?

TI: No. So I think I -- my -- or my


final question is one of similarity before -- at the
end of our last talk is: I guess, who -- who are you
guys sharing this information with and did my name
come up in any of this?

RR: So, Travis, right now everything


is confidential. We don't name names. The
institution, of course, has access to this. If
someone was to be involved as a named individual, and
I'm not saying that it is or is not going to happen,
then they would, you know, have access to recordings
and everything like that because, of course, it's,
you know, there to allow them to see the evidence.
I'm not saying that that would even be included in
that or anything at this point. I can't make that
determination yet --

TI: Okay.

RR: -- But as far as, you know, going


all the way to the end, if this case, if something
actually does come of it and something is published,
we do not publish names, so.

TI: Okay.

HG: And -- but let me add this to be


candid. So obviously, Travis, I'm sure you're aware
UConn and -- apart from sort of the NCAA
investigation this largely deals with, there's also
an administrative proceeding going on relating to the
separation of Kevin and UConn. So as a part of that,
the NCAA has given us the approval to the extent that
we need to address with Kevin issues regarding his
employment and bases for termination. He has the

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right to understand sort of what some of the issues
are.
So as a part of that process, he will
be provided transcripts of some interviews, and that
will likely include this interview. But again, that
process is actually confidential, and we don't
anticipate that -- there being any public release of
that information.

TI: Okay.

RR: All right. Any other questions


for me, Travis?

TI: No, sir.

RR: Okay. Then I'll note for the


record that this interview is concluding at
12:04 p.m. Eastern Time. Thanks, Travis, I
appreciate it.

TI: Thank you.

HG: Thanks, Travis. Thanks, Russell.

RR: Yeah, thanks, Henry. Thanks,


Travis, for helping us getting this set up, I
appreciate it.

TI: You bet.

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INTERVIEW SUMMARY

Case No. 00848 – University of Connecticut

Report of March 7, 2018, interview with , father of student-athlete


. Russell Register, NCAA assistant director of enforcement conducted
the interview via telephone from the NCAA national office. Tom Hosty, NCAA director of
enforcement; Jessica Doriot, assistant coordinator of enforcement; and Henry Gimenez and Clint
Speegle, outside counsel for the institution, were also present for the interview.

The interview was not digitally recorded at the interviewee's request. This is a summary of the
information revealed during the interview. It is arranged in a topical format rather than
chronologically and reflects information believed to be essential to the NCAA's inquiry. In order
to protect the integrity of the investigation, Interviewee also agreed to refrain from discussing the
interview with others except for those present during the interview. Interviewee was requested
and agreed to provide complete and truthful information.

resides at .

trip to Atlanta.

approached around the end of May after his freshman year at the University
of Connecticut and asked if he could go to Atlanta with a couple of his basketball
teammates to workout with Derrek Hamilton (Hamilton), director for Pro Purpose Development.
After called both Kevin Ollie (Ollie), former head men's basketball coach, and
Hamilton to confirm that the trip and workouts were legitimate and not against NCAA rules,
booked and paid for a flight, he believes on Southwest Airlines, for to travel to
Atlanta. He believes his son flew from the area near the institution's campus as opposed from
originating from . stated that stayed in Atlanta for three to five days at
the end of May. Additionally, stated that his son stayed with Hamilton during this time
but this was not the original plan, as had money to rent a hotel room.
recalled telling him that he played pick-up and did not recall discussing one-on-one
work with Hamilton. also stated that had money for food and transportation
and believed that traveled around Atlanta via Uber but never specifically asked. He
believed that and , both student-athletes at the institution,
accompanied his son to Atlanta for the work-outs with Hamilton.

Ollie.

Prior to booking a flight for to travel to Atlanta, called Ollie to confirm that
his son would not be violating any NCAA rules. states that during the phone call he
advised Ollie that would be going to Atlanta to work out with Hamilton. Ollie did not
state whether he knew Hamilton, but assumed Ollie was familiar with the name. Ollie advised
that as long as the institution did not have a financial role in the trip, it would not be a
violation. pre-trip conversation with Ollie was his only contact with anyone at the
institution about the trip either before or after it occurred.

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INTERVIEW SUMMARY
March 7, 2018
Page No. 2
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Hamilton.

In addition to speaking to Ollie, spoke with Hamilton via telephone but does not recall
which individual he spoke with first. confirmed with Hamilton that his son would be
traveling to Atlanta to work out with him. During this conversation, asked Hamilton
about payment for the workouts and Hamilton advised not worry about payment right now. As of
now, no payment was made to Hamilton for the workouts and there has been no contact with
Hamilton since the trip.

said he tried to do everything to make sure nothing was done wrong. He commented
that he cannot even get a free T-shirt from the institution.

This concluded the interview and was thanked for his time and cooperation.

Russell Register
March 21, 2018

JCD:jcd

I, , have read and reviewed the above interview summary. I have had an
opportunity to make changes or additions, which if made, appear in handwriting above. This
interview summary is an accurate and complete presentation of what was discussed during my
interview March 7, 2018.

________________________________________ Date: _______________

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INTERVIEW OF TRAVIS ILLIAN
UNIVERSITY OF CONNECTICUT
FEBRUARY 5, 2017

RR: All right. Okay. I'd like to


note that it's currently 8:05 a.m. Mountain
Time on Monday, February the 5th, 2018 and I'm
here at Southern Utah.
For the purpose of voice identification,
I'd like to ask each person in the room to
state their name and title. And Travis, we'll
start with you.

TI: Travis Illian, Director of Sports


Performance at Southern Utah University.

AA: I'm Ann Marie Allen, I am legal


counsel for Southern Utah university and I
have chatted with Travis about my role as the
legal representative for the university.

TB: Todd Brown, Associate Athletic


Director for Compliance at Southern Utah
University.

HG: Henry Gimenez, outside counsel


for the University of Connecticut.

RR: And joining us by phone?

AF: Yep. Annie Fiorvanti from the


University of Connecticut, Associate Athletic
Director for Compliance.

RR: Thanks, Annie. And I'm Russell


Register, one of the assistant directors of
enforcement with the NCAA. All right. So I'd
like to note that the interview is being
recorded and before going on the record, I
asked if it was okay to record and Travis, you
said it was; is that correct?

TI: That is correct.

RR: Okay. Perfect. And then I'd


also like to mention on the record that

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UConn's counsel is recording this interview as
well. But we have a verbal agreement to keep
that recording confidential pursuant to
Division one bylaw 19.5.8. And that they
agree not to share that recording with any
third parties; is that correct, sir?

HG: It is.

RR: Perfect. All right. Prior to


going on the record, I handed you a form
entitled the NCAA interview notice form; did
you have a chance to read this form?

TI: Yes.

RR: Okay. Do you understand that the


purpose of this interview is to determine
whether you have any knowledge of or
involvement in any violations of NCAA
legislation?

TI: Yes.

RR: Okay. Do you understand that you


may be represented by personal legal counsel
during this interview?

TI: Yes.

RR: Do you understand that NCAA bylaw


10.1 obligates you to provide truthful and
complete information in this interview?

TI: Yes.

RR: Okay. Do you understand that if


it is determined that you provided false or
misleading information or withheld information
in this interview, then this could constitute
a violation of the NCAA principles of ethical
conduct and could impact your athletically
related to duties as a staff member at an NCAA
institution?

TI: Yes.

RR: Okay. Do you understand that the


information provided during this interview may
be shared with other NCAA departments?

TI: Yes.

RR: Okay. Do you have any questions

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regarding any part of the interview notice
form?

TI: No.

RR: Okay. And did you sign and date


that form?

TI: Yes.

RR: Okay. Perfect. Thank you for


bearing with me. I appreciate it. All right.
So Travis, just so we have it, what is a good
telephone number to reach you at?

TI: . And that's my


cell phone, so --

RR: Okay.

TI: -- it's the best. You can call


or text.

RR: Perfect. And what's a good email


address for you?

TI: travisillian@suu.edu.

RR: Perfect. All right. And just to


kind of -- we kind of talked about this off
the record, but if you could, kind of what's
your professional background; where have you
been before, what positions did you hold
there, that type of thing?

TI: Right. I started out at Texas


Christian university as a volunteer intern and
then went to the University of Alabama as a
graduate assistant and was -- I have to look
back at what years I was there, but I think
2002 to 2004 or '05, somewhere around there.
Did my Master's there and then I took a
job at Mississippi State university. Worked
there for three to four years as an assistant
and then I went back to the University of
Alabama. And I was there as an assistant and
working on my Ph.D. and then I took the job at
University of Connecticut. I was there for
four years and then I am here at Southern
Utah.

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RR: Got you. And what's your current
position here at Southern Utah?

TI: It's the director of sports


performance.

RR: Okay. Great. And you started --

TI: -- December 15th of 2017.

RR: Got you. And the years that you


were at UConn, so that was --

TI: -- 2012 or 2013 to -- I don't


know if it counted as '17. I think it was all
the way through '17.

RR: Got you. So --

TI: Yeah. I was -- I worked there


until -- I'll have to look back at the date.
Mid February or March -- probably March --
March something. So March something of 2017.
And then I guess I did not state, but after
UConn, I went to second Baptist school in
Houston. And that was from April or May until
December.

RR: Got you.

TI: December of 2017.

RR: Basically just between those two?

TI: Just between those two jobs.

RR: Got you.

TI: And that was a high school. That


wasn't a college job. But I was the director
of sports performance there as well.

RR: Great. Got you. So let's talk


about, you know, shifting gears to UConn.
What was your position at UConn?

TI: At first when I started there, I


was just assistant strength and conditioning
coach. My primary job was men's basketball

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and then I also had men's and women's tennis
for the first year or two. I'd have to look
back. I can't remember exactly, but I think
the first year and maybe even half way into
the second year because of all the travel with
men's basketball, our staff decided that it
was best that we assign a different coach to
men's and women's tennis. So at that point, I
just became men's basketball.
So I would travel with them, kind of do
everything with them. I would -- I would be
at breakfast making sure that our guys were
there. Have workouts for them. That's kind
of --

RR: Got you. Yeah. So thank you for


that. If you could expand kind of what were
your duties or what was expected of you and in
your position at UConn.

TI: My duties were, obviously, to


design and implement workouts. Make sure that
we're following NCAA guidelines. You know,
that the hours or whatever were in. And
then also to, you know, really test and
evaluate the guys to make sure that we're
training the way we need to train, not
overtraining, not undertraining. And what I
would say I call injury proofing. Do the best
we can to decrease injuries.

RR: Got you. And then through that,


like you said before, you were around the team
a lot throughout the day?

TI: Yes. And especially when we


got -- the first year, we were in Gampel, but
then we moved over to the new facility. That
was pretty much all just men's and women's
basketball, so we were -- I shared the weight
room with Amanda Kimball, which is the women's
strength coach, but all that area was just
men's and women's basketball, so pretty much
that's all you saw is men's and women's
basketball. We had an eating area upstairs,
so obviously if there was food, that's where
they were.

RR: Uh-huh.

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TI: They had their locker room. We
had an athletic training room, so pretty much
when I went to UConn, if you were looking for
me, that was the building you were going to
find me in.

RR: Got you. And you said you were


in the -- what was the name of the new
facility?

TI: Annie, you're going to have to


help me out.

AF: Hi, sorry. It's the Werth


Family.

TI: Werth Family, that's it. Thank


you, Annie.

AF: No problem.

RR: So you were in that building. I


think you said you were in Gampel, I guess,
the formal -- the previous building, for about
a year.

TI: Yes.

RR: And then you were in Werth for


about three years while you were there?

TI: Yeah.

RR: Approximately?

TI: Yeah. I mean, I'd have to look


back to make sure I'm perfect on time. But
that's -- we won more when we were in Gampel.

RR: Okay. Great. And see, so far, I


just want to clarify just for kind of my
knowledge. So you worked with men and women's
tennis for about half of your time there or --

TI: Yeah. I think -- I mean, if I


looked back, I think it was my first years
that I had men's and women's tennis.

RR: Uh-huh.

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TI: And then the next two years, I
just had men's basketball. And so I reported
on paper to Mo Butler and I think Coach Balis.
So those were my supervisors, per say, in
strength and conditioning because Matt Balis
was the head of strength and conditioning and
then Mo Butler became the head of Olympic
strength and conditioning, I think my last
year there. So '16 -- I think 2016, she
became the head -- Mo Butler did. And her
real name is Maureen, but we all call her Mo.

RR: Okay. So that was your direct


supervisors during the time that your -- that
you were there?

TI: Right. And then obviously, if I


had anything that was of any concern, it
usually went to Debbie Corum or Paul McCarthy.
So it was one of those two --

RR: And who is Paul McCarthy?

TI: Paul was the AD over men's


basketball for -- and he wasn't there the last
season, but the three seasons before that, he
was the AD over it.

RR: Got you. And is that kind of he


had sport oversight over that program?

TI: Yes.

RR: Is that it?

TI: Uh-huh.

RR: And then Ms. Corum, was she over


strength and conditioning?

TI: Strength and conditioning, yeah.

RR: Okay.

TI: So if I had a question


concerning -- she'd usually be the person that
I'd go to and then I would follow up and
usually if it was proper, tell Mo Butler.

RR: Perfect. Great. Thank you, that


gives us really good background on everything.

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TI: Yeah.

RR: I just wanted to ask, I think you


said there was a decision made by the staff
to -- that you would relinquish your duties
with men's and women's tennis. What was --
what went into that conversation; what's the
background there, I guess?

TI: I think pretty much because I was


always traveling with men's basketball that
men's and women's tennis would work out and I
would miss so many workouts, but I would be
writing their workouts that we all decided,
hey, it doesn't make sense for you to write
all the workouts and not see them be done, so
with Mo Butler, I can't remember if Coach
Balis was in on that decision, but again,
other -- our other staff members were kind of
covering for me all the time that it just made
sense for the student athlete, that they have
someone that sees them all the time and writes
their workouts.
So that decision was really just based on
what we thought was the best decision for the
student athletes. So it wasn't, hey, you're
running the workouts, but I'm writing the
workouts and we just don't get to see the
student athlete enough. We wanted them to
have one person that was their go to and
could be consistent throughout the year.

RR: Got you. So they could have a


strength coach that they could talk with --

TI: Yeah.

RR: -- or if they needed to reach


and that type thing?

TI: And especially, I mean, there was


many times where I was probably on the road
three or four days a week and so I could miss
all the workouts in one week and maybe catch
one workout every two weeks, so it didn't make
sense for me to really oversee their program.

RR: Got you. And so that decision,


was that mainly -- or that was basically done
within the strength and conditioning

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department? Your supervisors there.

TI: Yeah. Because we just kind of


all thought it was best for the student
athlete that, hey, I'm not around as much
because everyone knew that my main priority
was men's basketball and to take care of them,
so that's where I spent most of my time or all
of my time, especially after.

RR: Got you. Thanks, Travis. I


appreciate that. I'm going to kind of take a
dive into more specific topics. Wanted to
talk about when you left UConn.

TI: Uh-huh.

RR: If you could. What was -- what


occurred whenever you left?

TI: I mean, ask me more -- I mean --


yeah.

RR: Okay.

TI: Be -- if you don't mind, because


there's a lot more to that.

RR: That's very fair.

TI: And I have --

RR: So we'll start out broad and then


we'll go --

TI: Okay.

RR: Okay. So --

TI: Or we can dive right into


specific if you want to.

RR: That's fine. So what happened


whenever you left UConn; why did you leave?

TI: So I had got a call to interview


at Southern Utah and I had actually approached
Kevin Ollie and said, hey, I've got a call to
take a job interview at Southern Utah and
right when I said that, he was very frustrated

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and angry with me. And so I -- I said, he's
pretty much -- and I -- at that point, I
actually ran it by Vick and by David Benedict,
that you know, I've been contacted. I -- you
know, it would -- on my day off, I would like
to go interview and then come back.
And pretty much, I got the feeling from
Kevin that he was very angry that I was
willing to go interview at all. That I -- to
him, and this is just me spending three or
four years with him and knowing him, that it's
my perspective that he felt I was being
disloyal by even interviewing. I did not feel
that way. And I expressed to him why that --
you know, why I would go interview and how if
this did work out, how I felt like it would be
a move that I would make for my family.
So -- but all the less, he was frustrated.
I came and interviewed on my day off, which
was a Sunday, made it back for workouts on
Monday. And pretty much when I got back to
UConn, he said, Travis, you better take that
job. And I said, are you telling me to take
that job or are you telling me that I don't
have a job here? And he said, Travis, you
better take that job.
And I said, what are you telling me? And
he said, Travis, you better take that job.
And I said I'm not sure if that job is right
for me. And I said I'm still going to think
about it. And so at that point, obviously, I
felt like he was giving me a hint that, hey,
I'm pretty mad at you right now. So I think
the season ended two weeks after that or
whatnot and I said -- and then he brought me
into his office and said, hey, you know,
appreciate all you've done here, but I'm going
to go a different direction.
And I said I totally understand. So
that's when him and I parted ways. And then I
think through that point, I was working with
Vick and David to try to figure out how all of
that would look. Me exiting UConn because I
wasn't being fired; my contract wasn't being
renewed for the next year.
So it took us probably about two to three
weeks to look, I think -- I'd have to go back,
but two or three weeks to look at what that would
look like. And I can't remember his name, but
at UConn, they have an AAUP or --

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RR: You can ask her.

TI: Annie, what's the AAUP?

AF: Yeah, I mean, that's our --


that's the union that you must have been in.
I'm not sure of the individual who you spoke
with. Yeah, that would be the union that you
were protected by.

TI: Okay. So at one point, they were


pretty much trying to throw me out of my
office and I was like, hey, I'm still an
employee here. So that's when I got Michael
at AAUP involved and said, hey, I'm willing to
work. What's going on? Let's put some things
down on paper.
So that's where -- at this point, Michael
got involved from AAUP and then David
Benedict -- up to that point, I hadn't really
met with David, but then David came over to my
office and said, hey, I don't want this to be
ugly. And I said I don't want this to be ugly
either, but I need some things in paper and
not just people just telling me whatever.
So from that point on, it was very smooth.
David kind of put things on paper and this is
how the rest will go for your time here at
UConn. And then that's pretty much when I
cleaned up my office and -- so that's kind of
how we separated is I think -- I mean, there
could have been many other things, but I think
Kevin was very frustrated that I would even
consider taking an interview.

RR: Okay. And when you talked


about -- you said that Vick and David Benedict
helped put things on paper, who is Vick in
that?

TI: How do you say Vick's last name,


Annie?
AF: Ceagles.

TI: Ceagles, it's C-E-A-G-L-E-S. And


he was -- he became the AD over men's
basketball.

RR: Okay.

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TI: But he was just there the last
year.

RR: Okay. Got you. And when you


said that, you know, we were kind of forced
out of your office, who was it -- or what was
occurring?

TI: So at that time, I was still


training the guys. Like, the guys would still
come in and I knew them and I hate to say,
when you trained them for a long time, you
built a relationship with them. So they were
coming in to train and Vick came and said
you've got to leave your office and I said,
why? And he said, you can't ask me questions,
you've just got to leave. And I said, well,
why? And he said, if you know what's good for
you, you need to leave. And I said, well,
you're not telling me why, so I'm not leaving
my office.
And he goes, you better leave your office.
And I said, I'm sorry -- and so he left very
angry at me and then I called Michael from
AAUP and Michael immediately called David
Benedict and David Benedict came right over to
my office. All this to say, I think they were
telling me to leave my office because they
already had someone that was interviewing for
my job in the building at that time. And they
didn't want me in there because they were
interviewing someone else.
I only know that because I was there and
he popped his head in the door with -- who is
the administrative assistant for Kevin?

AF: Larib.

TI: Larib. So he was there with


Larib. So pretty much, David came in and
stopped the fire because Michael called him
and said, hey, you can't kick my employee out
of his work. Especially because nothing at
that point was on paper.

RR: AAUP, is that strength and


conditioning coach's union or what exactly --

TI: Annie will have to describe it a


little bit better, but AAUP is pretty much a

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union for -- and they have two unions at
UConn, one is for teachers, one is for
faculty, staff. And I couldn't tell you the
difference between both of them, but pretty
much if -- if there is any dispute, you would
go to -- I went to them as my legal counsel,
as my union representative.
So when all this happened, which obviously
was new to me, I went to Michael because I was
like what do I do and you know, how do I do
this correctly? Because I want to do this
correctly, but obviously, I was feeling the
force of, hey, you better do what we say or
else. That was my --

RR: So all of this took place -- was


that a couple week’s span after you had the
conversation with Kevin Ollie after he
dismissed you or --

TI: This all pretty much -- yeah.


Within the -- I would guess the couple weeks
after -- right after the season. I think that
maybe the day after the season he said, hey,
come up to my office. But I know before the
season ended, he had called me and said, hey,
you better take that job at -- he was
referring to Southern Utah. And I -- that's
when I had said -- well, I'm not for sure if
the job is right for me. And he just -- and I
pretty much asked -- I asked him pointblank,
are you telling me I don't have a job at
UConn? And he just repeated himself, hey, you
better take that job.

RR: How many times did you talk to


him about it or did he say that?

TI: He -- in that conversation, I


asked him two to three times, pointblank, hey,
are you telling me I don't have a job here?
And he just repeated himself two or three
times after he repeated himself that many
times. I got the hint of what he was telling
me. But that was before the season ended. So
that was like a week before the season ended
or two weeks before the season ended.
So I wasn't surprised when he called me in
his office and said, hey, I'm going to go a
different direction with your position.

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RR: Got you. Before you had come on
the interview before you were thinking about
it, so why were you thinking of looking for a
different position?

TI: There were many things, I think.


For me, training wise, it's -- I'm very
precise. Like, I want to train my athletes a
certain way so that I know that they -- how
they perform. And at that time, whenever we
would lose, we would always be training more
and more and more and more for men's
basketball.
So if -- you know, if I was training you
and I was very comfortable with where you are,
but you lost that game, then we'd have more
practice, longer practice, harder practice.
And it was always more, not necessarily what I
can say is I don't believe in more for the
sake of more. I believe in precision. So if
I'm training, I don't do less with you just
because I feel like I'm -- I don't want to --
I don't do more for the sake of more. I
believe in precision training. And it got to
the point at UConn where we were just so
reactive, wins and loss, that it wasn't
precision training. It was -- and especially
the first year, I could go to the Kevin and
say, hey, I see that the guys -- you know, our
practice took this long, I think next practice
we need to keep it to an hour and 30 minutes
and these are some of the drills we need to
run.
We can't just keep going and going. And
the first year, he was all in. Like, he would
listen to almost anything I said in training
wise. So it was fun and obviously, we won.
Then the second year, when we had hit a bump
and I would say, hey, we don't need more; we
need less. We need -- you know, it was like
okay, well, thank you, but we would never do
it.
And then the third year, it was just more
and more. And -- of training and training and
training. And sometimes it -- on the backside
of how he would perceive athletes was
different than how I would perceive the
athletes. He would sometimes perceive the
athletes as mentally weak and I totally
disagreed with that.

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I perceived them as very mentally tough
but fatigued. And so if you're telling
someone that they're mentally weak and yet
they're just fatigued and they need rest and
recovery and they need precision, not just
more, that's why his philosophy and how he was
training or running practices and things of
that sort, we started to separate in terms
that I wanted to do -- I believe in hard work,
but I believe in precise work and, you know,
if we'd look, sometimes we'd have more and
more practices. Like, sometimes we wouldn't
even know our practice days before the week.
And to me, I could script a whole, you know --
a whole spring out.
I know when I'm going to practice and when
my days off are. And we wouldn't know that
and the athletes wouldn't know that until the
day of or the night before. And so it was --
we were always on -- on his watch or on his
call and there was no -- there was no --
because of that, I couldn't manipulate things
to help the athletes and I didn't want to keep
doing that, you know, for me, as a
professional. I wanted to use my role as a
way to make a positive impact and that's
really one of the reasons that brought me here
is because now I get to assist coaches and
strength coaches, whether it's sport or
strength coaches, and say, hey, you know, we
can't do more or we can't do less based on
wins, loss. We're going to have a great plan
of training and we're going to be confident in
our training. And we're going to follow those
steps and teach ourselves to be not reactive
to situations, which I think that's what we
preach all the time is, you know, there's
tough times in life and there's tough times in
work.
So don't react to them. Be consistent
with who you are. And I think our philosophy
started to kind of change, so that's why I was
open to other avenues of work because I didn't
feel like our fit was -- I didn't -- and there
was many times, like, I recorded, like, of how
many days we trained in a row. And I even
reported those to Debbie because we didn't
have a day off a couple of times.
And so I would report that to Debbie and
then I would use that only -- not only because

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it -- we weren't compliant, I don't think, but
not only that, I couldn't -- I couldn't get my
guys to rest and recover because we never took
a day off on some -- whenever we'd lose, there
had to be days where it was more, more, more.
And again, I don't believe that. I don't
think that's healthy psychologically,
physically, performance wise.
And so that's what kind of allowed -- made
it easy. It wasn't a hard decision to look
elsewhere. But I also told him, you know, I
want to be a dad and a husband and with the
travel and the demands I have here, I don't
feel like -- I'm not for sure if this is the
best place for me to do that.
And again, I asked for him -- I didn't --
I told him I was going to go and asked him,
you know, he was -- he was very angry that I
would even consider it, but that's his
decision too.

RR: Thank you, Travis. Definitely


helps understand what all was going on.

TI: Right.

RR: Going into that. I want to


ask -- go back as you just mentioned this a
second ago about, you know, the -- the kids
were training every day -- or student athletes
I should say, the kids.

TI: Yeah.

RR: And that you had some concerns


about not having a day off and that you
reported that. Can you tell me, you know, how
that conversation went, when this took place.

TI: You know, I'd have to try to look


back and I don't even -- I could try to, but I
know it was -- it wasn't the first year or the
second year. I think it was the third year
where we started -- when we started to lose,
we'd just come back and we'd practice and I
had concerns with that, so that's when I
reported it to Debbie and then she reported it
to -- at that time, Angie was compliance.

RR: So is it fair to say, was this

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during the '15, '16 season possibly? Was that
your third year there?

TI: Yes. I think so. '13, '14; '14,


'15 -- yeah, '15, '16.

RR: And kind of take me through the


process of -- of CARA because I mean, I know
you said that you had to design the workouts,
so you had to know how long they were going to
be. What was the process on, like, feeling
out a week or reporting it?

TI: You mean, like, for --

RR: For CARA. Were you required to


turn that into someone --

TI: Huh-uh.

RR: -- how did y'all do that?

TI: So I didn't have -- I think the


sport coaches wrote down how many hours that
they -- and then they turned it in. I was
never signing anything on a weekly basis or
anything of that sort.
So is that what you're asking?

RR: Well, did you ever -- do you


remember -- who for the men's basketball's
team actually kept up with CARA?

TI: I couldn't tell you who did that.

RR: Okay?

TI: My guess would be Larib, but I do


not know that for sure.

RR: Do you recall how it was kept up


or how the logs were done?

TI: And this might even been with


the -- the graduate assistant, so I -- it went
and the graduate assistant after
that was -- I could draw a picture of him, but
I can't think of his name right now. But I
think they were doing the logs of -- of when
practice was and -- and I remember one of the

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people -- because I asked them -- and I might
still have these. I don't know if I do or
not, but I asked them for practice logs and it
was the managers. So it was the managers that
had the practice logs. But my -- I started
keeping track of practice because I wanted to
show coach, hey, the less we practice, the
better we play. Look at our win record, you
know.
And I was using that, not only for me, but
for the guys to say, hey, the less we do,
we're fresher. We play better. We think
better. We move better. You know, we're just
more happy to be around because we're not here
all the time.
So I -- I remember those records and we
were keeping them and then all of a sudden, I
think it was the 2015 season, that -- I wish I
could think of his name. It wasn't
it was the -- Annie, do you remember
the manager after ? It was –

AF: Are you talking about ?

TI: yep. It was


and -- who else worked with him?

AF: --

TI: Yeah. and kept the


practice logs. And I remember them saying to
me, Coach doesn't want us to count warmup
in -- in our practice logs. And I said, well,
sometimes our warm up is 15, 20 minutes, we
need to -- I want it in there. And they're
like, okay, well, what should I do, Coach?
And I said, well, when you change it, if
you're giving him the logs, let me know when
you change it, so that I can add that time in.
Now, I don't know what they were reporting
or if they were the people that reported it,
but I know from my records, I was -- once they
told me, I was adding 15 to 20 minutes every
day, because that would be our warmup, to my
assessing volume and intensity. Again,
because I thought we were getting overworked.
And any time, you overwork athletes, I think
it makes strength coaches look bad.
So I was doing it for the athletes, one,
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would be like, hey, how are you doing? Coach,
I'm exhausted. Okay. You know, there's only
so many times I could say, hey, hang in there.
And then other times, I was like, hey, you
know, be as sharp as you can so we can have
practice shorter and I would encourage them
the best I could, but volume got out of
control in terms of -- I couldn't, you know --
in terms of my weight workouts, I would do
recovery workouts probably two to three days a
week just to help guys move in practice so --

RR: Great. I got -- I have a few


follow up questions to unpack it and try to
make sure I have everything kind of right. So
when did that conversation -- you said you had
a conversation with and ?

TI: I think so.

RR: Do you recall when that was?

TI: You know, I would have to look


back, but it was at a practice. Because I
said -- because I was working with someone
that was injured in the weight room because
they said they couldn't practice, so I had
them in the weight room and I went out there
to practice, which is just right across the
hall. So weight room is right here, you have
a hallway and then the practice facility.
So I walked out and they're usually
running the clock and I said, hey, how long
have we been practicing, and they said, well,
whatever time -- I said, well, didn't we start
it whatever and they said, oh, yeah, but we
don't count the warmup. I said, what do you
mean you don't count the warmup?
Well, Coach doesn't want us to -- it's
warmup. It's not practice. I said, okay.
Well, it's still 15 minutes or whatever. So
I -- I said -- I think that was probably
January -- you know, I'm just guessing, but
January of 2016.

RR: So sometime during that '15,


'16 season?

TI: I really think so. That would be


my -- without looking back -- if I still have
those records, that would be my best guess.

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RR: And then you said after you had
that conversation with them and they
indicated -- who told them not to count
warmup?

TI: I think they got that from --


they said Coach, so I don't know if that -- my
guess, that'd be Kevin. I'm sure it wouldn't
have been any of the other coaches because
they don't -- they were doing whatever Kevin
wanted them to do. They weren't making those
decisions.

RR: And I think you said after that


conversation, you made sure that there was
warmup added to something? Can you elaborate
on that.

TI: So on their practice logs because


we had started -- after we won it in '13,
'14 -- is that right? '13, '14?

HG: Yeah, '14 championship.

TI: Yeah. After we won it all, the


next we're, we just -- our volume and practice
schedule went from a -- what I would call a
very good practice and recovery schedule to
just started going off the wall. So then I --
I didn't have what I would call any tracking
information being able to say that this person
ran this many miles and -- at this pace. I
didn't have that at that point.
So the best I could do is how long were we
practicing. I knew how long my weight
workouts were and so what I would do is create
almost like a spreadsheet of this is how long
our practices were. This is how -- you know,
and then I'd put on the spreadsheet, practice,
practice, practice; win, loss. You know, so
I'd do that throughout the whole season and
then I would say -- and at the end of the
season or even in the middle of the season, I
started comparing, like, hey, Coach, this is
when we won it all and this is how we're going
now. Look at the difference of practice
volume between these two seasons and look how
we're playing.
And my whole point was you have to

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practice less so we play better. And so I
think we did that the whole '13, '14 -- '14,
'15, I did that and then I think that next
year is when they were told, hey, cut -- cut
the warmup out of it. And to me, you're still
moving -- you're still physiologic -- you're
still mentally engaged, so that -- when I
started comparing, I started to have to add
extra time in what they would send me so that
I had true records of what was going on in
terms of my understanding of how much work was
going on on the court.
Because I wouldn't always -- especially
those last couple years when we'd have one or
two injured guys or a developmental guy, I'd
be in the weight room with him during the
practice, so I wouldn't see all of practice.
Where -- I don't think that -- I mean, it
happened a little bit my first year there, but
not as with much. It just gradually got more
and more where I was not seeing as much of
practice, so the only way for me to gauge how
much we were doing was to know the time of how
long we were practicing and then I could
compare them a little bit of trying to be
apples to apples in terms of time spent on the
court.

RR: And so in what year was it that


you started noticing that there weren't days
off, that the practices --

TI: I would think the '15, '16 year


is that -- that was the big year and then,
again, I think that '16, '17, it just
continued.

RR: And you -- did you discover that


through your records of keeping up with
everything or --

TI: I mean, and when -- I mean, I --


we'd come home from a trip and I thought we
were supposed to have a day off and we
wouldn't have a day off and then at that time,
my wife was like -- because my wife used to --
was a track and field coach. She's like,
aren't you supposed to have a day off? And I
said, I think so.
And that's when I'd go to Debbie and say,

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hey, you know are we supposed to have a day
off? Yes. And that's when she would report
it to Angie. It's like, hey, these guys
aren't getting the time off they need. But
that was reactionary, like, that would always
happen after we lost. It would never happen
after we won.

RR: Uh-huh.

TI: So again, that was a differing


philosophy of how I believe in training. So
that's what made it very -- you know, that's
why -- one of the reasons that I didn't feel
like that situation was the best for me in
terms of my profession.

RR: Do you recall how many times did


you report this to Debbie Corum?

TI: I would just be guessing, but one


or two, I would think. And again, I'm -- I
may have those records, if you need them,
where I could look back and try to find them,
but I -- they might be -- they may have been
on my UConn commuter that they -- they took
back when I left there.

RR: If you could find those where you


kept up with how much y'all practiced and
everything -- if you could send that to us,
that would be great.

TI: Okay.

RR: Do you recall when those


conversations with Debbie Corum, sorry to keep
at it. Just want to make sure I had the time
frame down.

TI: Like, what do you mean by when?

RR: Do you remember when that was


that you reported it to her.

TI: Those would just be the days, you


know, pretty much when we got back if -- if we
traveled to South Florida and we lost and we
came back or -- and I thought we were having a
day off because -- and then we wouldn't have a

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day off, usually the next day, I'd report it
to Debbie and she'd report it to Angie.

RR: So it was probably during that


'15, '16 year is the first time --

TI: I would sure think so.

RR: Okay. And do you recall, did


anything happen after that or what was the --

TI: No, I don't think anything would


happen after that. And I do have some
speculation of some of Debbie's situation at
UConn. But it's purely speculation. But I
think her reporting to compliance got back to
Kevin. And Kevin did not like that he was
being reported. So I think -- I think he did
what he could to be forceful against Debbie.

RR: Did you ever see or hear any of


that firsthand or --

TI: Not firsthand. I would -- on --


and you're more than welcome to ask Debbie
about how her last weeks at UConn went, but
some of the things that -- that I know of how
she was treated on her last weeks were, to me,
improper.
And because of those, I think it was --
again, I think he -- Kevin knew who was saying
what about him and so he was going to make
sure, if you say something about me, I'm going
to get you on the other side. But I think
that's a little bit of -- and again, that's
speculation on my part. I don't have any
proof of it, but I know that if -- just again,
I think it comes back to even him telling me,
if you go interview, you better take that job.
It was -- it wasn't during my workday that
I was interviewing or it was -- it was my
personal time and he was trying to tell me
what to do with my personal time, which I
think that's what he was doing with, not only
me, but some of the guys.

RR: Okay. Thanks, Travis. Wanted to


go back and just ask about -- about the CARA
logs that were being put in by the managers
and you thought probably ?

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TI: I think that's who was --

RR: Possibly?

TI: Yeah. I mean, it might have been


Larib, I don't know.

RR: Fair enough?

TI: I don't know that.

RR: Did you ever have to -- to tell


anyone how long that the strength and
conditioning sessions were to make sure they
were added to the logs or how did that work?

TI: So usually how I did workouts is


I would look at their class schedule and then
I would put them in a slot. So if you had a
class from 9:00 to 10:00 and then you had an
opening from 10:00 to noon, I would put you in
the workout that started at 10:30 and we'd be
done at 11:45.
So I knew, especially in season, my
workouts were 45 to 30 minutes, so that's what
the managers always counted it as.

RR: How long was that, again?

TI: Usually, my workouts were


anywhere from 30 to 45 minutes. They
wouldn't -- they never asked me, in terms of
how long did you go today? No, I would say,
hey, this week -- this day’s a recovery day;
it's going to take 30 minutes. Or this day is
a workday; it's going to take 45. But that's
usually how we did it. So I knew you had
class, so I wanted you to go to class, so you
had to go in at 10:30 and be done at 11:15, so
that way I gave you food or you know, the
snacks that I could give you after. And then
you had 20, 30 minutes to get to class.
Because if you were late to class because
of me, that's not good.

RR: Right. I got you. Who would you


tell that to that, hey, today went 45 minutes
or today went 30?

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TI: Probably the managers, if -- I
mean, and the managers knew the inner workings
of everything.

RR: Okay. Did they ever tell you --


come to you and say, hey, Travis, you can't go
45 today because there's not enough time in
today's allotment?

TI: No.

RR: Okay. Did you ever see -- do you


know how logs were actually inputted; was it
in a computer system or anything like that?
Did you ever see that?

TI: I didn't see it at all.

RR: Okay. So did you ever see a


completed log; did that ever get put in front
of you?

TI: Huh-uh.

RR: Okay. I wanted to go back


because we talked and you gave us good
information on --

TI: Should I have seen a completed


log?

RR: I'm not saying you should or you


shouldn't.

TI: Okay.

RR: Just asking the question to see


if you actually ever saw -- and that's a good
follow up for you, actually, is if you ever
saw, were the strength and conditioning
sessions that you were reporting to them ever
included?

TI: And I -- I would -- I don't know


at all.

RR: Okay.

TI: That would definitely be a


question for them because I mean, they would

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know. I mean, they knew -- just like me, they
knew where our guys were. When they had
class. I mean, I had -- I had a grid that
pretty much told you where you were at what
time and where you needed to be or I called
you up and said, hey, you're -- where are you?
You're not at breakfast.
So I knew where you were and when you
weren't -- I mean, other than -- I didn't
class check, so I couldn't tell you if you
were at class, but between the -- the managers
definitely knew where everyone was.

RR: Was there a weekly, like schedule


that said practice is going to be at a certain
time?

TI: No. That -- I mean, in theory,


yes, but it always changed. So I mean, that's
what the managers and I and -- would always
fight for because I love schedule. I hate
being able to, you know, wake up and all of a
sudden things change and practice changed back
two hours or an hour forward or -- so we tried
to work towards that, but it always changed on
a dime. So I -- I think all of us tried to
get to, like, this is the schedule. And
that's why I even had printouts of, hey,
practice is supposed to be here to here. But
I wouldn't say that it always -- it didn't
keep on my schedule.

RR: Did -- was there a specific -- I


think I know the answer, but I want to ask the
question. Is there -- was there ever a
specific allotment of, okay, practice can't go
over two hours today; we have to keep it to
one and a half? Was there ever a set time
limit?

TI: That was never communicated to me


nor did I see it, like, in -- and I vividly
remember at Alabama with Sarah Patterson, we'd
be doing a beam intersquad, which is very
intense and she'd be like, all right, stop.
And we -- I was like what? We're in the
middle of this. And she's like, all right.
Now, that's our time. That's all for today.
Everybody stop; we're done. And that never
happened.

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RR: Did you ever hear any members of
the coaching staff concerned about -- or
mentioned we have to keep the hours limited
today or we have to make sure it's within a
certain time allotment, practice?

TI: I mean, I think I heard the


assistant coaches pretty much say that we're
practicing too much, but can -- they could
tell me that or I could tell them that and
it -- neither of us were the decision makers
so --

RR: Thank you, Travis. Wanted to


kind of go back and we talked a little bit --
we talked about this before kind of being your
decision of why you were looking at different
positions and everything.
Did Kevin Ollie ever ask you to do anything
that you felt you just weren't comfortable
with?

TI: No. I mean, I think he knew who


I was and he -- he never -- I mean, he told me
that, hey, we need to put weight on these
guys. I said, well, I said these guys got to
eat. And we had muscle milks and shakes to
give them, and so I'd give them shakes, but
sometimes I mean, I think he would get
frustrated sometimes that guys weren't putting
on weight. And I would literally have, you
know, if they had a peanut butter and jelly
sandwich and a drink and they left the weight
room with it, I'd go back into the locker room
and they'd be sitting in their locker. And
I'd take a picture and be like, Coach, we're
not eating. So he would -- he would want some
things to happen that, to me, were a
responsibility issue, but he never asked me
anything that -- unethical that I would --
that I think he'd know my answer to that, so.

RR: So did he -- did he ever ask you


to do anything --

TI: Maybe you can give me an example.

RR: Okay. Yeah. Did he ever ask you


to do anything on the court as far as

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development that you didn't feel comfortable
with?

TI: No, I just did, like, my warm up


and things of that sort. Now, I know what
they were looking for and what they -- from
what I heard, got after I left is they were
doing developmental things on the court, which
I never did.
So I think he wanted those things, but he
never asked them from me. But so I don't know
if that's what you're asking.

RR: Uh-huh. Yeah. Can you elaborate


on what exactly do you mean by the
developmental things on the court?

TI: Right. I'm not supposed to -- in


my training sessions, I'm not supposed to do a
ball -- I'm not supposed to be teaching you
skills, basketball skills. I'm strictly
strength and conditioning, stretching. You
know, what I would call physiological --
helping you make physiological changes to your
body. I'm not going to teach you -- I'm not
going the have a band on you and you're not
going to do -- trying to do lay ups through
someone hitting you with stuff because that's
not my job. I'm a strength coach; I'm not an
assistant basketball coach.
And I think -- that's not what he ever
asked from me, but I know that's what he
replaced with me.

RR: How do you know that's what he


replaced you with?

TI: Well, I don't know -- I didn't


see it so I can't tell you I saw it. People
that work there had told me that -- that, hey,
he does some stuff on the court with guys.
And that's what the guy at SMU, who he worked
at SMU before that. And then one of my
friends worked at SMU after him, and so he --
players speak and talk, so they said, hey, we
did these things on the court or I even
remember one of the coaches when we went down
to play SMU said, hey, Travis, are you going
to do skills like that with our guys? And
this was in a pregame warm up that one of

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their strength coaches was doing basketball
skills with them.
And they were joking with me, like, hey,
you going to do that with our guys? And I
don't remember what season this was. It might
have been -- I think it was '15, '16 and '14,
'15. But I remember going to SMU and their
strength coach at that time was doing
basketball skills with their guys. And their
coaches kind of -- our coach is nudging me and
being like, hey, you going to do that?
I mean, they were joking with me.

RR: Uh-huh.

TI: But I remember that and then when


I left, that's who replaced me. And then he
left, so --

RR: Do you recall what his name was


or his -- sorry.

TI: He's an assistant coach for the


Denver Nuggets, I believe. Annie, do you know
the gentleman that replaced me?

AF: Carlos Daniel.

TI: Carlos Daniel.

RR: It's been reported to us that


Kevin Ollie might have asked you to do that --
that type of work?

TI: He didn't -- he didn't


specifically ask me. He, I think, hinted or
encouraged me. Like, hey, we've got to get
better at this. But I always stuck to what I
do. And so I mean, whether you like it or
not, that's what I was going to do.

RR: Got you.

TI: And -- yeah, those -- those were


just things I heard from other people after I
left and I -- I would just call them up and
talk to them and say, hey, how's it going?
Just kind of say hey, it's changed since you
left and just -- it wasn't like -- so.

RR: I think you said before you

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mentioned that -- and like you were just
saying, that some people from back at UConn
that you've talked with since have you told
about the differences that there was. Can you
say who that was that you talked with that
told you that or --

TI: I mean, I -- every once in a


while I'll talk to Amanda Kimball. Every once
in a while, I'm talking to, probably less
frequently, James Doran. I'll probably talk
to Coach Miller every two to three months,
Glenn Miller. So those are probably the
people I -- I have kept in contact with the
most.
And every once in a while, I'll check in
on the players. I'll usually check on
and . Those
are probably the guys that -- and then I would
check in with the guys that left, like
-- I would check on those guys
because I -- I know what they went through and
so I want them to be -- I want them to be in a
place that they feel like they can be
successful at, so I'll usually try to check in
with those guys. And and
They're just good people -- good
kids. And I want them to succeed and I want
them to do well.

RR: Okay. Amanda Kimball and -- was


it James Durham; is that what you said?

TI: James Duran.

RR: Duran?

TI: James is the athletic trainer for


men's basketball. And Amanda Kimball is the
strength coach for women's basketball. And so
she filled in and was doing both women's and
men's when Carlos left for -- so Carlos took
my -- or started, I think, in May. And then
right before the season started this year, I
think in October or September, he left and
took a job in -- with the Denver Nuggets, so
when -- when that position was open, Amanda
Kimball filled that position until they found
a replacement, which I couldn't tell you the
replacement's name now.

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RR: Anything -- and the best you can
recall, in your conversations with them since
you've left, they filled you in, did they tell
you about some things that --

TI: I don't -- I mean, they didn't --


I didn't want to know.

RR: Uh-huh.

TI: They didn't really want to tell


me, so usually we mostly just talked about
family and training and things of that sort.
So I don't think. And every once in a while,
I'd talked about a player, so hey, how is
this player doing? So they would just kind of
give me the general, but they -- again, I knew
they didn't want to dive and I didn't want to
dive into it. We just both wanted to, I
think, move on, so that's kind of how our
conversations usually went.

RR: Travis, I'm going to


see if others have some follow up
questions, okay?

TI: Okay.

HG: Yeah. I'm going to jump around


just because I'm trying the fill holes in my
mind, so don't read anything into it or -- I
thought I wrote down at the beginning, you
were trained and it was goal as a guy at UConn
to follow the NCAA guidelines regarding team
hours, right?

TI: Yes.

HG: You told us about that. You


understood that that existed and what that
was, right?

TI: Right.

HG: And then you mentioned this idea


of yours where you began to monitor and track
sort of team activity over the course of a
number of years because you felt it may be
able to correlate to performance on the court;

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is that right?

TI: Yes.

HG: And that's what I thought, but


you weren't beginning to track activity on the
court because you had some grave concern of
some constant violation of on practice court
time or something like that?

TI: No.

HG: You felt from a strength and


conditioning coach, hey, listen, you talked
about at the beginning, more is not always
better and you have the data that proves
that?

TI: Yes.

HG: Okay.

TI: Now, I mean, the times we -- we


didn't have days off --

HG: Right.

TI: -- I think we probably went over


those hours. You know, whether the logs show
it or not, I don't --

HG: Okay.

TI: Because that was always an


afterthought to me in terms of my daily work
and grind. I hate to say my focus was always,
hey, if I had a group at 9:00 a.m. to 10:00
a.m., I was focused on those guys and then I
usually had 20 minutes and then I had another
group.

HG: Right.

TI: So for me, I was never keeping


track of hours and saying -- usually that was
the managers keeping track of
practice/whenever our -- does that help you?

HG: It does. It does. And so I


guess what I'm trying the figure out and

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separate, Travis, sort of when we get into
these things, is sort of what we think and then
what we know.

TI: Right.

HG: But it's helpful to have


background information and then we can then
try to go back to maybe talk to folks about
some issues. So you mentioned, I think, one
or two times in your years there actually
going to Deb with a concern about going over
time; is that right?

TI: Yes.

HG: Did you know it was a violation


or was it just a concern that you had?

TI: I didn't always know because I


know there's some periods where you don't have
to -- is that right? You don't have to give
them a break because they're not in school, so
you can go a little bit more.

HG: Right.

TI: So I didn't always know, so I


think I would go to Deb -- Debbie and say,
hey, this is what we did. Were we within NCAA
or were we not? Because again, I knew the
general that, hey, we have this much time.

HG: Do you know how much time you


had?

TI: Right --

HG: How much time men's basketball


has in season?

TI: It's 20, isn't it?

HG: Okay. And what about sort of


when kids are not in session; do you know?

TI: Eight.

HG: Okay.

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TI: Okay. And so most of that -- it
usually worked out where I would have six and
then the coaches would have two.

HG: Okay. What about during the week-


end; how often do you think you had workouts
during the weekend season?

TI: During the weekend season?

HG: Right.

TI: That would all be based -- I


would have to be reactive. Again, what I didn't
like. So I would base my workouts off of if
we win, lose; what is coach doing for his
practices? So I would have to change based on
what I heard was the next day coming. So
sometimes I'd have a plan and say, hey, I want
to work out -- I want to do a real lift --
what I would call a real lift on -- on Monday.
Tuesday's prep work, meaning like mainly
recovery. And then Wednesday, we'd play. And
then Thursday would be our off day.
And then I would do an active workout on
Friday and then we'd play on Saturday or
something of that sort.

HG: Uh-huh.

TI: But if things would change, I


would have to change based on those -- in
terms of, you know, if you just played and I
was planning to have a day off, but we weren't
having a day off, I might have you come in and
do -- a recovery/tissue workout. Meaning
you're doing foam rolling or something of that
sort. The whole point, usually for those, was
so that you would come in, move. So it was
kind of my movement prep for practice.
And then I could give you a snack and
things of that sort. So those were usually
short. Those were reactive off of whatever we
did.

HG: Okay. But I -- I guess sort of


maybe to close this piece of the loop. I
think you said you weren't involved in putting
CARA information in?

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TI: Not -- I mean, I've never -- I've
never done it; I've never seen it.

HG: So you're not sitting here


telling us, hey, I've seen fraudulently
reporting CARA logs in UConn men's basketball?

TI: No. Because I never reported


them. I couldn't even tell you who reported
them.

HG: Right.

TI: My guess would be the managers,


but that's my guess.

HG: Okay. And then we talked about


the managers and this comment about Coach, who
you assume to be Kevin Ollie, right?

TI: Yes.

HG: Not wanting to count warm ups.


Do you know the rules or sort of what was
involved in the warm ups and how they should
or should not be counted?

TI: My -- my thought is that it


should be counted as your 20 hours because
we're asking you to do something.

HG: Right.

TI: Now, again, was it counted as


their 20 hours or not, I don't know.

HG: Okay.

TI: That was a question to me. But


yes, I'm asking you to do something on -- so
it should be counted as -- now, if you do all
your warm up on your own --

HG: Correct.

TI: -- if you -- like I said, you go


out there and warm up and then we started
practice, that's -- that's -- would be
considered, to me, voluntary. But for the
most part, 95 percent of the time, I was

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leading warm up.

HG: You, as the strength coach, were


leading warm up?

TI: Yes.

HG: What about countable coaches?

TI: I would say -- what do you mean,


countable coaches? Like, the assistant
coaches?

HG: Correct.

TI: So again, it changed over my


years there. Sometimes the coaches would be
in meetings and -- let's say we were supposed
to start practice at 2:00, coaches would still
be in meetings and I knew I had ten minutes,
so I'd warm them up from 2:00 to 2:10 or
whatever. And then the coaches would come
down.
And then I think after we started losing
some more, coaches would have -- and I think
this was probably '16, '17 season. Where they
would start doing -- before my warm up, they
would have some type of an assistant coach out
there doing warm ups and things, ball drills
with guys, whether it was dribble and shoot or
drop step and shoot or whatever for ten to 15
minutes before I would come out there.
But I wouldn't always be with -- be there
for that because I'd be sometimes in the
weight room with one or two guys that had
class up to that point, so I would have
them -- so I'd have guys from 1:00 -- I might
have guys from 1:00 to 1:30 or 1:40, so I
wouldn't always be out on the court if they
did or they didn't have warm up before me.

HG: Right. I hear you. Did you ever


raise that issue of your conversations with
the managers with anybody?

TI: With the managers?

HG: Yeah, about this idea of not


counting warm ups.

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TI: I said -- so he doesn't want to
count warm ups? And they said, yeah. I
said, that's strange. And they said -- I
don't know if they said yeah or anything. But
that's about the most we raised it or --

HG: You didn't go to Deb or Angie,


for example?

TI: I didn't go to Deb or Angie and


say, hey, this is a big concern. Because to
me, the bigger concern was that we wouldn't
give days off on some points.

HG: Right.

TI: But I mean, if we were going over


hours and all those ten minutes added up, we
should have.

HG: Okay. And then I thought I heard


you say that when you got the impression some
warm ups weren't being counted, you actually
began to add time to the workouts. You
reported to make sure that time was completed.

TI: I tried to, yes. So in the logs


I was keeping, I was always adding time.

HG: So you maybe went from a 30 to 45


minute workout, to a 45 to 60 minute workout?

TI: On my paper, yes. Now, I would


give that back to -- and I would show that to
Kevin, but I wouldn't resend it back to the
managers. So I would add it on my
spreadsheet.

HG: I got you.

TI: But I wouldn't give it back to


managers or Larib or anybody else. I would
just add it on my sheet.

HG: Okay. And then we talked about


this concern with the lack of days off, as you
perceived them, sort of during some parts of
the season. We talked about the times you
reported that to Deb.
I'm just trying to get a feel for the

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impression. It doesn't sound like this was an
intentional thing that would happen through
the entirety of the season. It sounds more
like the team would hit a rough patch and the
reaction would be --

TI: Yeah.

HG: -- let's practice more?

TI: Yes. Yes.

HG: You're not saying the team


practiced seven days a week from November to
March?

TI: No. No. We would -- it would


definitely be reactionary.

HG: Okay.

TI: We would lose and then we would


practice.

HG: And then --

TI: If we won -- there was not a


single time that we won and we had an extra
practice.

HG: Okay. And then you talked about


the one or two times you went to Deb to raise
this issue. And you said something about it
may be on a UConn computer. Would these be
emails that you would send to Deb? How were
you reporting this or why do you think there
had be an electronic record somewhere? Where
would we go to look for that?

TI: They would have been on my laptop


of the workout sheets, the comparing the
years.

HG: I got you. So we could go look


at the '15, '16 season, for example, after a
loss, and maybe see that -- you would have
kept a log of every time the team was on the
court?

TI: Right.

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HG: I got you.

TI: But I know that when UConn wanted


my computer back, I deleted everything.

HG: Okay. So it's not going to be on


your computer?

TI: There's no way it's on my -- the


laptop that I had. Now, it might be in one of
my drives somewhere. I mean, I could dig for
it.

HG: Okay.

TI: Now, those might be here. Those


might be back in Houston in some of my boxes,
so I wouldn't even tell you.

RR: Did you keep up with the logs,


was it on Excel or what program did you use?

TI: Excel.

RR: Okay.

TI: Which I would think the managers


would still have those logs too. Or
whatever -- I mean, they -- usually, like,
who was the manager, gave it to
and and and gave it,
probably, to the next manager, I would think,
of practice logs. So that's where I would
think would be the best place to find practice
logs.

HG: Okay.

TI: Would be in that -- I think the


computer they used was in the copy room all
the time in -- not in the -- so there's a room
right above the weight room. That computer
had, I think, all the manager information --
I'm sure they used jump drives, but they were
the ones that would keep minutes of practice.
So they knew when things changed too.

HG: All right. And then just going


back to your background. I promised you we'd

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jump around, so here we go.
As I understand your history, Travis, UConn
was the first time you had been focused on
men's basketball; is that right?

TI: As my primary sport, yes.

HG: Had you ever had women's


basketball before or basketball at all as a
primary sport?

TI: No.

HG: Okay. And you mentioned -- I


think you told us that Kevin never asked you
to do anything you'd consider unethical.

TI: No.

HG: And I want -- I want to include


that to me, I'm sure it does in your mind --
inaudible -- that would include anything that
you thought was an NCAA violation, whether it
was ethical or not?

TI: Right.

HG: Okay. And then you mentioned, I


think, SMU. Did UConn go play SMU?

TI: Yes.

HG: Okay. And you said there was a


strength coach out there doing some drills
with his players; is that right?

TI: In warm up, yes.

HG: Okay. This is public for


everybody to do see, correct?

TI: Anyone in there could see it.

HG: Okay. And you said he was having


some bands or something like that?

TI: Well, at that time, he was just


doing ball drills with them.

HG: What does that mean?

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TI: Like, when I'm warming you up as
a basketball -- I can warm you up, but I can't
make you dribble a ball or do weighted balls
or anything because that's not my role because
that's an assistant -- that's an assistant
coach's role.
So --

HG: Is there any physiological


benefit to choosing a weighted -- I'm trying
to get that impress --

TI: No.

HG: -- like if you think using a


round object with a student athlete violates
sort of NCAA rules as a strength and
conditioning coach?

TI: Before -- outside of workouts,


like, before a game, I'm not supposed to,
like, do ball stuff with you or coach you on
how you do your layup or anything like that.
But that wasn't necessarily, again, whatever
he was doing at that time --

HG: You were never asked to do?

TI: Right. I was never asked to do.

HG: Right.

TI: My coaches were just joking with


me. Now, was I told that he was doing
stuff during permissible hours after I left?
Yes. Like, I'm not allowed to -- during my
six hours of workout, I'm not allowed to take
you out there and make you do basketball work
because that's violating NCAA rules.
And that's what I was told was going on.
Now, whether I -- I don't know that firsthand.

HG: Right.

TI: So I can't tell you that. But


that was what I was told.

HG: Okay. And let's get into sort of


what you were told. You mentioned talking to

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Amanda, James, and Coach Miller. When do you
think the last time you talked to Amanda was?

TI: I don't know if I've talked to


her since I've been here, so it had to be
in -- when I was in Houston, so maybe around
Thanksgiving.

HG: Okay. What about James?

TI: I think I've texted with him a


couple times before the start of the season
because he was asking me where some stretching
bands were. So that had to be late September,
early October.

HG: Okay. and what about Coach


Miller?

TI: Probably text with him two weeks


ago. The last time I talked with him was when
I was, I think, in Houston.

HG: Okay.

TI: So that would be early December


or around Thanksgiving, somewhere around
there.

HG: Okay. And what have you had


conversation with Coach Miller about?

TI: Ever since I left there or --

HG: Let me just be more specific.


Have you had any conversation with Coach
Miller about potential issues, concerns, or
violations at UConn?

TI: Yes.

HG: Okay. What have those


conversations been?

TI: The one that probably sticks out


to me -- well, I've had a couple concerns,
like, Coach Miller feels like that --

HG: Uh-huh.

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TI: was one of his recruits,
and I think when I was leaving -- when he knew
I was leaving and I was no longer going to
work at UConn, he had shared with me that the
coaches -- or Kevin -- I don't know if he
named Kevin by name or whoever, but wanted him
to give money to and he didn't. And
obviously, he felt like, maybe that's the
reason he got let go.

HG: Okay. When do you think that


conversation was?

TI: I would say that's pretty quick


after either me being let go and he was almost
let go or right when he was let go because he
said --

HG: Help me understand the timeline.


You were let go in December?

TI: I was --

HG: No Marchish?

TI: Yeah. Right after the season.


So the day after -- pretty much the day after
we were done, whatever day that was. I'm sure
we could all look back and find it. The day
after it, I was -- the season.

HG: Right.

TI: Because a week or two prior to


that, I took an interview here.

HG: Right.

TI: So he was just -- I mean, he


didn't talk to me those whole two weeks -- so
Kevin didn't, so I knew what was coming and
even pretty much from what I was told by his
staff members, he went into his office -- to
the other coaches and said, pretty much, if
you look for another job, the same thing is
going to happen to you.

HG: Okay.

TI: So he was -- but after that


point, I think Coach Miller knew I wasn't

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going to go back to Kevin and say anything
with me, he felt like he could share with me.

HG: Was he still employed at this


point?

TI: He was -- he was either right --


it was either, like, right before he let go --
for some reason I want to think it was when I
was cleaning out my locker and UConn and he
was in the locker room with me and he was
like, you know, pretty much understanding my
situation and trying to give, hey, this is
what happened kind of like they've asked me to
give money to , I didn't. I'm sure
he's mad at me too, type thing.
So that was the only one that I was truly
aware of what he told me. Again, I don't have
any firsthand --

HG: Sure --

TI: -- evidence of that. And I


think -- the good thing too is there would be
many times I would -- because my locker was in
the coach's locker room too. I'd walk into
the locker room and I could tell that the
conversation had changed from what I -- from
me opening the door to walking in. And I was
always okay with that because I didn't want
to -- if things were changing; there's a
reason things are changing. I'll get my stuff
and I'll go back out.
So I say that because I don't think
they -- anyone ever wanted to share anything
with me. And I -- I didn't want to share -- I
didn't want to -- I wasn't going to pry for
something that you know -- I think the things
that Coach Miller shared with me was just how
he was treated and some of the things that
Kevin said behind closed doors and at that
point, he had told me, Travis, you could write
down some of the things that happened and the
dates and the times so if -- if he -- he
didn't say this, but if you ever get
questions, you have it. But I never did. I
know he did, but I never did.

HG: Okay. What other conversations


have you had with Coach Miller since y'all

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have separated?

TI: Pretty much him just saying, how


is it going, Travis? I hope you’re doing
well and kind of the same thing with me with
him. I said, you know, how is recruiting
going for -- I think it's Saint Joe's, right?
And he would go, good. You know, I've -- you
know, I've been traveling here or there or you
know, so that -- that's pretty much all our
conversations have been.

HG: Does he know you're interviewing


or meeting with the enforcement staff?

TI: No.

HG: Do you know if he's met with the


enforcement staff?

TI: I don't.

HG: I think that's all I have for


now, Russell.

RR: Okay.

HG: Annie, did you have anything?

AF: No. I think you asked the


questions I had. Thanks.

TB: I think we maybe just want to


clarify that last question that he'd asked
you. That you haven't had any conversations
with anyone about this investigation happening
or that there's an investigation going on?

TI: Right. Just Debbie and you.

HG: What have your conversations with


Debbie been?

TI: Just, hey, you know, I guess I


asked her do I need to have legal counsel
here. And I asked the same question that Todd
used. Just like, you know, I don't think you
need to. It's obviously you're decision and I
think that was just kind of the -- the talk
of -- and I communicated this both to Debbie
and to Todd is, I want to be as truthful as I
can be and report what I know. But to me,

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other than practicing more than we should,
that's probably -- I don't even know if I have
proof of that. But that's probably what I
witnessed more than anything. And then Coach
Miller telling me that -- about , but
other than that, I hate to say I was in my own
little world in the weight room. But that's
probably -- kind of describes my life there.

HG: Okay.

AA: I don't have any questions.

RR: All right. Just wanted to follow


up on two quick things and sorry to beat a
dead horse, but just want to make sure I have
it right.
The -- the warm up sessions that you've
talked about before that were done -- that was
prior to practice, correct? Is that a yes?

TI: Yes.

RR: Was that the team -- were they


required to be there for that time?

TI: Yes. There was a couple of


exceptions where, like, a guy would have class
or tests, but yes.

RR: Okay.

TI: I mean, it was usually -- I hate


to say signified the start of practice, but in
my mind, that's what it signified. Hey, we've
got to get warmed because we're about to
practice.

RR: And then I wanted to clarify.


The times that you had concern about no off
days and that you -- that you talked to
Ms. Corum, can you recall, were y'all in
season during that time?

TI: Yes. It was never during off


season. It was -- it was always -- if I
recall right, it was always reactionary to a
loss.

RR: And then, talked about -- and

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that was actually my next question, so you led
right to it. You talked about that Coach
Miller -- Glenn Miller --

TI: Uh-huh.

RR: -- told you about that someone


had asked him to provide money to .

TI: Uh-huh.

RR: Did he elaborate on who asked him


that?

TI: He didn't. You know, I think it


was insinuated that it was Coach -- that it
was Kevin, but that's just, you know, that's
not -- I don't remember him saying Kevin. I
don't remember him not saying Kevin. I'm sure
it wasn't, to me in my mind, it wasn't any of
the assistants.
And this is where, to me, like,
was one of my -- and are,
like, brothers, and so when I would meet with
, I would say, man, if Hamidou was my
brother, you need to tell him to do what's
best for him. And I don't know what that is,
and you might know what that is, but pretty
much the same advice that I'd give my kids.
Like, whatever -- I don't know where the
best place for you to play basketball is and
to grow as a person, but encourage him that's
where he needs to be. And so that was kind of
always my take on it in terms of -- again, the
great thing about being a strength coach is it
doesn't matter who walks through the door,
that's the people I get to work and that's the
people I get to invest in, so I don't have to
worry about recruiting or any of that per se.
I'm just there to serve them and help them
be their best. So that was always my view of
the athletes is, hey, you're here. I'm going
to do my best that I can with you. I know
that was a little off tangent.

RR: No. No. It's good. That


conversation that you had with Glenn, just to
clarify -- I think Mr. Gimenez asked you this,
do you recall, was that before he was let go
officially or after?

TI: I wouldn't be able to tell you

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specific -- I mean, I know we've talked about
it a couple times, you know, the first time
that he told it to me, I think, was in the
locker room. So it'd probably be before he
was let go, but I know we talked about things
after the fact where he would share -- I hate
to say he needed someone to vent to or someone
to understand and so I would just call him up
and be a friend, you know.

RR: Uh-huh.

TI: But that's where he would


encourage me to write down events and -- I
never did, but I think he did.

RR: Were you present for


official visit; do you recall?

TI: I can't tell you if I was present


for his official visit. I can tell you I was
present for -- I met him a couple times after
games, so he could drive -- supposedly, he
would drive up from New York and watch a game
and then -- or before a game. I'd say, you
know, they'd introduce me and say, hey, this
is Coach I and this is . And so
obviously, I met him probably three or four
times.
I can't remember if it was an official or
not that I met him.

RR: Was there ever an event at Kevin


Ollie's house that was at; do you
remember that at all?

TI: I don't think so -- not that I


was there at. I think we had an end of the
year barbecue. Obviously, not the last part,
so it had to be the year before that we had
something at his house, but I don't think I
ever saw him there.
So I think it was just the players at that
point. Yeah.

RR: So -- and what I'm getting at is


during his official visit, I think there was a
team meal and he was --

TI: I think there might have been. I

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was not invited to that.

RR: That answers that. Thank you,


sir.

TI: Yeah.

RR: You mention this student athlete


before,

TI: Uh-huh.

RR: Was there any tension among the


team -- amongst the team about his recruitment
or him joining the team; do you recall?

TI: Not that I know of. I know that


him and became pretty good friends,
but that's kind of all I know. I think there
was probably some tension with other
point guards being afraid that they might lose
some time, but that's all I could sense.
That's all I knew.

RR: Did you have any reason -- do you have


any knowledge or reason to believe that
was paid to go to UConn?

TI: Not that I know of, no. Again, I


was always in the weight room and I don't even
think -- I don't think I was there for -- I
guess I -- I don't know if it was his official
or an unofficial, but I was there for one of
them because I remember him walking in, I
think, gray and purple. I don't know if those
are his high school colors. But them
introducing him to me, and their like, we want
this kid, Travis. And I said -- at first,
when you first look at him, he's shorter.
So I was like, this kid can play? And
they're like, yeah, he's great. And so I was,
like, okay, you know. But I -- I hate to say,
I had my -- my introduction, how -- you
know, showed him the weight room. That was
pretty standard for everyone, but that's what
it was. I showed him the weight room, a
couple different things that we had and it was
standard if it was -- whoever it was, whether
it was or whoever.
Because I -- I didn't know the difference
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the coaches would tell me, hey, we want this
kid or we want -- or every once in a while,
they would tell me, hey, we've got people
coming up, but you don't have to come up for
these people.

RR: So you -- did you ever hear from


anybody that was paid to come to
UConn?

TI: No.

RR: Okay. Do you remember an


individual by the name of Danny Griffin?

TI: Yes.

RR: Okay. What was Danny's position


when you were there?

TI: I am just -- just because I know


you guys asked me this before, but Danny had
reached back out to me after I left and went
to Houston.

RR: Uh-huh.

TI: And he -- we either played phone tag


or texted between each other, mostly because,
again, I was checking on him and he was
frustrated with his whole situation, but he
was player development or -- I don't know his
exact title.

RR: He wasn't -- was he a coach


during that time?

TI: Like, on the court coach?

RR: On the court.

TI: No.

RR: Okay.

TI: And I never saw him -- I mean, he


would sit there and watch practice, but he was
never leading in drills.

RR: Okay. And that was my next

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question, so I guess we led right to it.

TI: Yep.

RR: So you never -- during your time


there, did you ever see him engage in any
coaching at all?

TI: No.

RR: Did you ever -- were you around


Danny a lot -- where -- how was y'all's
relationship?

TI: I would say at first, obviously,


we didn't know each other that way and we
didn't do too much. And sometimes at first he
wasn't around too much, so I didn't get to
know him too well. I think near the end when
he was told by Kevin that he was going to be
let go and things like that, then he started
sharing more with me and about how we're not
doing certain things and -- so I think -- you
know, I think he shared more once he knew he
was leaving or going to be let go.
And just some of his frustrations of how
things were being run and so I think that's --
that's how we got to know each other. Now, do
I think he knew a lot of what was going on?
Probably so.

RR: What were some of his


frustrations that he had?

TI: I think -- well, for his job


specifically, he felt like he added a lot of
value and they were going to cut his position,
which was minimal, compared to what other
coaches were making, so he couldn't understand
that.
And I -- I totally understand that, hey,
you feel like -- and he felt like, you know,
he was around the guys a lot, and so he was --
I mean, especially towards the end, he was in
the locker room with the guys and he was in
coach's -- and he was in coach's meetings. I
would think almost all the recruiting meetings
too.
So I think he was probably seeing both
sides. And I think some of his frustration
would be a little bit of my frustration that,

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you know, you say someone's bad or a cancer on
your team and then you praise them in the
newspaper or something, you know.
So then saying one thing and then saying
another thing and -- where even Danny will
admit he's made a lot of mistakes in his life,
but you've got to learn from those mistakes
and grow from those mistakes, so I think that
would be one of his frustrations is that --
we're just here to build these guys up, you
know.

RR: Did he ever express any concerns


that in your mind you thought were NCAA
violations or anything that was impermissible?

TI: No. He never -- he never shared


anything of that sort with me. He would just
say. He would show frustration when he was
there and I was there and James Duran was
there and all the managers were there, but
coaches weren't.
I mean, he would be frustrated that, hey,
we're not even getting paid like a coach and
I'm here more than them. I think that was
part of his frustration sometimes.

RR: By there, do you mean –

TI: At the university or -- whether


it's in the locker room or around the Werth
facility.

RR: Do you know, did Danny -- did he


ever make any recruiting calls or anything
like that?

TI: I don't know. He was on the


phone a lot -- a lot. You know, who he was
talking to, I don't know.

RR: Do you know -- did he ever tell


you he traveled to see recruits or prospects
or anything like that?

TI: No. But I think -- I want to say


someone was having surgery back in Los Angeles
and he was back there with them making sure
that they were okay or something. And I think
I learned this from Victoria Simonoff,

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the academic counselor.
And I was like, Danny, like, why is Danny,
like, making sure that he's okay or doing
something? Like, couldn't it be anybody else,
you know.

RR: Who was it that he was visiting?

TI: I couldn't even -- I would have


to look back and see, you know, if someone had
surgery there.

HG: Was it a prospect or somebody on


the team or somebody associated with team?

TI: I want to say it was someone on


the team. Who was -- maybe it was
, but he didn't have surgery. But I
want to say it was -- he was back in LA
supposedly looking after someone
and I was like, that's strange.

HG: But it wasn't recruit related?

TI: No. It was one of our players.


But near the end, too, he had a lot of family
things go on, like -- I mean, it was something
where, like, his grandma died and his best
friend died and his sister was in the
hospital, so that last season, he was gone two
or three or four weeks because of family stuff
and -- I hate to say I didn't know exactly
what was going on, but there was a lot going
on for his -- for him in that last season.

RR: Do you recall why he was let go


or why his position was terminated?

TI: He was told by Kevin that they


were watching the -- they needed to cut the
budget and -- but he didn't belief that
necessarily. He believed that Kevin was using
that to put it on administration because -- so
that was what he had told me is that, hey, I'm
being let go, but my salary is only X, which
that's nothing, you know.
So it's not a huge budget cut. I think
Kevin wants me gone or someone wants me gone,
so I'm -- that's what -- that's the most he
told me, though.

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RR: Okay. Want to ask about -- do
you know an individual by the name of -- his
nickname is Boo. Boo Willingham?

TI: Yes.

RR: Who is Boo?

TI: You know, at first, I didn't know


Boo that well. And you know, he was just kind
of around the first year. And my wife
encouraged me to, hey, if people are around,
start learning who they are. So I ended up
finding out that Boo was Kevin's roommate in
college, I believe.

RR: Uh-huh.

TI: So I'd see Boo at games and stuff


and I would say, hello, how are you, Boo? And
I think the thing that sticks out most to me
is probably he had big time plantar fasciitis.
I said, I can cure that. And he was like, you
can? I said, I'm going to put you in a lot of
pain, but I'm going to cure it.
So I did tissue work on him to help
relieve it and that's probably the most time I
spent with him ask is, like, two -- two hour
treatments where I would -- I would work
through his -- mostly because I saw him
limping. I asked him, like, man, I can't have
you -- you're limping so bad. He's like, I
can't do anything. And I said, well, I'll
help you with that.
But I mean, I saw him around here and
there. And I think he was -- he was friends
with Coach , which Coach was
's coach.

RR: What type of coach is he?

TI: A high school coach. Now, I


don't know if he had -- considered him
almost his dad. I don't know that whole
relationship there other than Coach and
I butted heads a couple times mostly because
he called me on Christmas and said, hey, you
need to be doing this and that for and I
was like, man, I'm make -- you know, I make
peanut butter and jelly sandwich for the kid.

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He's -- you know, so he got on to me
and -- Coach did and so I kind of said,
Coach, this is what I'm doing. I'll gladly
show you my workouts, but I can't give him
more. You know, like he was talking to me
about protein and creatine and all these other
things.
And I was like, whoa, I can't give him
creatine. That's -- I can't give him amino
acids and at that time, when I talked to him,
there was -- you couldn't even give protein.
So I was like, you know, if you want to buy
it -- if he goes out and buys it, then he can
take it himself, but I can't give it to him
and I'm not going to give it to him. And I
think Coach was frustrated with me at
saying those things. You're UConn? And I'm
like, yeah, but I'm -- this is rules, .
So I know Boo and and I don't know
how they all knew each other, but I knew they
were friends.

RR: Did you ever see them together or


how do you know that they were friends?

TI: I don't remember how I knew that


other than -- okay. So Boo, every once in a
while, would come to practice. Not -- not too
often, but he'd come and sit there at
practice. And I would be like, how's it
going? And just talk to him and he said, you
know -- and somehow we brought -- he brought
up or Coach And I was like,
well, let me tell you what happened. And I
told him, like, hey, Coach called me on
Christmas, the only day I have off to be with
my family. I said, and this is what I told
him. And he was like, well, you know, let me
help you. I know Coach And I think it
was kind of one those. And I said, well,
great, tell him I'm all for but 's
got to do his part too.

RR: And was on the team at this


time?

TI: Yes.

RR: Okay.

TI: Now, I think he was -- that was

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his transfer year.

RR: Uh-huh.

TI: So I think that was his first


year where he wouldn't -- he could practice,
but he couldn't play, so I had more -- like,
on -- I just saw him more because he wasn't
playing.

RR: Did – you talked about Boo would


come to practice every now and again. Did you
ever see him in the offices? Was he talking
to coaches?

TI: I saw him up there every once in


a while. Like, in the Werth Center upstairs
every once in a while. Now, again, my
weight -- the weight room -- the coach's
offices are on the second floor and the weight
room is on the first floor, so for the most
part, I went up there, usually once a day,
tell Coach, you know, if you guys came in
fatigued, I would say, Coach, your guys are
tired.
If you can cut practice down, that's what
we need to do. But I usually went up there,
I'd say once a day to kind of report my
findings or try to catch Kevin before
practice. But sometimes I'd never catch him
either, so.

RR: And you'd see Boo up there every


now and again?

TI: Every now and again. I wouldn't


say once a week. I'd say maybe more like once
a month.

RR: And was he meeting with Kevin


Ollie or some of the assistant coaches or --

TI: I mean, usually when I saw him,


it was in the hall, so it was kind of more
random than anything. It wasn't usually a
meeting.

RR: Did you ever see -- did he ever


accompany a prospect on an unofficial visit or
their trip to campus or anything; do you

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recall?

TI: You know, I would just be


guessing, but I would -- I would sure think I
saw him once walking around with people, but I
don't remember if that was, like, where we
had -- but I don't know. I couldn't tell you
who, when, what year, but I think there was at
least one time that -- on a Saturday, like,
before the season when we had official visits
or unofficial, he was up there.
And times we'd have four or five kids.

RR: Uh-huh.

TI: So I hate to say I didn't know


who belonged to who, and so I didn't know who
is mom and dad is and who was coach and who
was that. All I had was my 15, 20 minutes
introduction to the weight room, so I would go
around and meet everyone, but I couldn't
recall who was -- I couldn't tell you that you
belonged to that person.

RR: So you don't recall which recruit


he was with?

TI: I couldn't -- I would totally be


guessing.

RR: I think you said that you saw Boo


at some games; is that correct?

TI: Yes.

RR: Did you ever see him talking to


recruits at the games or interacting with any
recruits?

TI: I didn't pay attention and


sometimes I didn't even know who recruits
were.

RR: Right. Completely understand.

TI: No. Usually, yeah. I mean, I


would see him at most of our games. So he was
there for -- out of a lot of people, he was
probably the most consistent at being at our
games.

RR: I wanted to ask about -- during


your time, was there ever anything that --

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with Boo that gave you pause or made you
concerned or anything from a rules stand
point -- NCAA rules standpoint?

TI: No. Other than he was there a


lot. And I -- I guess I always perceived it
as him trying to support Kevin, but I mean, I
didn't -- I didn't see or hear anything that
made me say, huh, maybe I should stay away
from Boo, you know?

RR: I wanted to ask about -- and I


understand that you're a strength and
conditioning coach. You didn't do any of the
recruiting, but did you ever hear about
coaches when they recruited, when they had to
log their activities or anything; did you have
any knowledge of any of that -- that process?

TI: The only time I ever really


remember any logging or hearing of logging, I
knew when Dwayne Killings came on board, he
wanted to change how something was done and
Ricky Moore had said, you know, this is the way we
used to do it, now we're changing it to
something. And I was like, okay. Like, I
guess I didn't really pay attention too much,
but I knew Ricky was frustrated that whatever
they were doing before, now they're doing it
differently. But that's the only thing I've
ever heard of logging, you know, who they
talked to, when they talked to.
No, I think Dave Sevush would know tons
about that.

RR: Okay.

TI: I think Larib would know tons


about that.

RR: Why is that?

TI: Dave knew who they were


recruiting and was kind of coordinating a ton
of that, I think.

RR: Uh-huh.

TI: And knew kind of who was


everywhere. And then I think Larib knew

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almost everything that was going on. No,
Larib was only Kevin's administrative
assistant, maybe, two years. The other
lady -- Annie, are you still there?

AF: Hi, I'm still here.

TI: Who was the administrative


assistant to Kevin before Larib.

AF: Christina Buccheri.

TI: So Christina was his


administrative before. But I don't think,
from my perception, Larib knew a lot more of
every single thing that was going on than
Kristina did.

RR: And what gave you the thought


that -- you said Ricky Moore was kind of upset
about something -- and who did you say had
changed it?

TI: Dwayne Killings.

RR: Dwayne Killings? Do you remember


any specifics of what was changed or what that
was about?

TI: I don't. It was just -- whatever


it changed to, made Ricky do more work or
whatever. It wasn't anything other than a
nuisance that I -- pretty much, I had always
gone up there -- I would create a weekly
report of what I saw in the weight room, and
you know, even I guess those weekly reports
had the dates and the times that we would work
out and I would give it -- I would put it in
each coach's office one day during the week,
and so that's when -- I was putting it in his
office and I just said, hey, how it's going?
Oh, we're changing this up because Dwayne
wanted us to and it's making more work for me
or something. I was like, okay, sorry, man.

RR: Wanted to go back. You mentioned


-- Coach .

TI: Uh-huh.

RR: Did -- was he ever on campus with


or do you recall?

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TI: Yes. He came up two or three
times, even while was there, to check on
him and I think check on me and kind of
watch -- and I remember me telling Kevin
Ollie, I said, you know, pretty much this is
what Coach told me and this is what I
told Coach and he said, hey, we need to
take care of because Coach has a
couple recruits we need.
And I said, well, this is what I do and
this is how I do it, whether -- I said,
s got a responsibility in this equation,
you know, that's all that was ever said.

RR: Uh-huh.

TI: I but I even remember Coach


saying, hey, you know, why would I send guys
up there? I said, well, we're going to train
them hard and teach them responsibility. And
that's what he told me, and I'm like, those
were my interactions with Coach .

RR: Did you ever --

TI: Bless you.

HG: Thank you.

RR: Did you ever hear -- have any


reason to believe that Coach was being
paid for recruits?

TI: I -- I didn't have any reason to


believe that. I never -- I don't have any
substantial -- I didn't ever get the great
warm fuzzies with Coach , so I don't have
any reason to go one way or the other.

RR: Did you ever hear that from


anybody?

TI: No. Again, the good -- the great


thing, I think, is they knew -- again, I think
they kind of -- everyone knew who I was, so
they weren't going to say very much around me,
which I think is good. I didn't want to know
very much, so they weren't going to tell me
very much.

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HG: You said that a few times,
Travis. I'm just trying to figure out, did
you think there was a lot of improper, illegal
things going on at UConn that were being kept
from you because you keep saying that --

TI: No. I just --

HG: Nobody -- they knew not to say


anything around me is suggesting to me that
you have reason to believe that there was some
massive amount of misconduct going on.

TI: No. I just think that -- I hate


to see when you walk in a -- a locker room or
a couple of things and conversation changes a
couple of times, you get that perception about
yourself, so I guess that's how I would
perceive myself. You know, if I walked into a
room and conversation changed, you start to
wonder, well, why did that change? You don't
know why, but it just is what it is, you know.
So I guess that's where I got that
perception.

HG: Okay.

TI: And I guess does that answers your


question?

HG: It does. It does.

TI: I don't think there was


blatant --

HG: What I'm trying to get is you


weren't seeing a bunch of red flags all over
the place that you just weren't reporting to
somebody?

TI: No. No.

HG: This is just your perception


based on the nature of your relationship,
maybe, with the other coaches?

TI: Right. And even other coaches


told me at some point, well, you know, this
school is going to pay him to go.

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HG: Right.

TI: And so they would even say this


school is going to pay him to go there and
we're not. Now, they would say to me, coaches
could say that. We're going to -- that school
is going to pay them to go there, so I don't
think we have a chance at him.

HG: I think every school that's never


gotten a player has been because the other
school paid him but --

TI: Right. But they -- and that's


the thing they would say to me. But I don't
know if that answers your question.

HG: It does. It does. Thank you. I


just wanted to make sure we weren't missing
something.

RR: All right Travis. I wanted to


ask about kind of unofficial visits with kids.
I think you mentioned that sometimes prospect,
when they would come, you would do a quick
little tour of the weight room; is that
correct, and kind of introduction?

TI: Right. I would kind of show them


the weight room and the nutrition area and --

RR: Very good. When some prospects


came, did they get any gear to work out or
allowed time to work out if they wanted to or
play a pickup game or something like that; do
you recall?

TI: I think there was one time that I


remember and it was before season that there
was, like, a pickup game or something with --
and I don't remember if it was possible
recruits if it was -- but I -- I think there
was one time, maybe, the last year that there
was some type of pickup game and a kid was up
there and again, I don't know how it was all
set up or who set it up or when that pickup
game -- but I think it was voluntary practice,
you know.
It wasn't official practice. Now, I
couldn't recall if they were wearing UConn

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gear or not.

RR: Do you remember who the prospect


was?

TI: And I think it was -- I don't


even know if it was a prospect or not, but it
was two or three kids from somewhere along the
East Coast. I mean, it wasn't very far
because they came down to play, but I thought
it was strange and I didn't know all the rules
with that. Who can play in our gym and who
cannot play in our gym and when.
So -- but that's the only time that I
remember it.

RR: And --

TI: Now would -- he'd shoot


free throws or something sometimes when he was
around, but I never saw him practice.

RR: Was the team around during that


time or --

TI: When --

RR: Uh-huh.

TI: You know, they may have just


finished a practice or something and kind of
my perception was he was hanging out with
; that was my perception and so he just
came up -- again, my perception was that he
was just hanging out with all the time
whenever he would come up, so that's how I
kind of --

RR: Did you perceive that as


voluntary activity that he was --

TI: I did.

RR: Do you know -- did he get any


gear to workout in while he was there or --

TI: Not that I remember.

RR: Got you. So just to -- so during


your time there, did you ever -- was there a

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practice of when prospects would come on
unofficial visits or official visits where
they would get gear to work out in or anything
like that?

TI: Not that I know of.

RR: Okay.

TI: And they definitely didn't do it


in the weight room.

RR: Do you know when recruits would


come, did they watch practice; did you ever
see them in there?

TI: Yeah. So they would watch


practice. We'd have a court there. We had a
court here. And they'd line chairs up here.
So they would sit there and watch. Or we had
two courts running this way and we'd line them
up here against the wall.
And they would sit there and watch and
then I think they'd take them up, usually --
sometimes they'd take them to the meal we had
for the athletes and/or sometimes they'd take
them out to eat.

RR: For -- when they would take them


upstairs, did you ever follow the team up
there; did you ever go to that meal too?

TI: With the recruits?

RR: With the recruits and the team?

TI: No. Usually, if there was a meal


upstairs, either after practice, I would work
with somebody and then I'd go grab, like, a to
go box and go home --

RR: Okay.

TI: -- or -- so usually once


practice was done and I was done with -- like,
if a guy missed a workout in the day because
of a test or tutor or something, then I'd get
him after practice. And then right when I was
done, I would head home.

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RR: For the recruits that were there
on unofficial visits, as you described, they
were practicing and they would go upstairs
with the team, was that the -- the dining
facility, was that above the practice gym or
how was that set up?

TI: So right above the practice -- I


mean, the practice gym is open and if you walk
towards the back, then there's stairs that go
up. And they used to have -- like we'd have
breakfast there and dinner there. So that's
usually where -- after the guys -- some guys
would go get treatments and then go upstairs
and grab food. And some guys would sit there
and eat food. And some guys would grab food
and go.

RR: Got you.

TI: But that was kind of the -- now,


again, when it was different recruits, they'd
have different people. You know, if you were
that position, maybe, or you grew up near that
person or for some reason you knew that
person, they would live with you or whatever,
stay at your apartment that night.

RR: For the ones -- for the recruits


that were there on unofficial visits, so on
their own, did -- when they went up to eat
with the team, were they required to pay; do
you know?

TI: I don't think so, but I don't


know for sure.

RR: Did you ever -- was there anyone


up there, like, at a cashier's stand or
anything?

TI: No.

RR: Okay.

TI: It was always catered, so you


would have one person working it, but pretty
much all the -- it was a student worker, so
what they would do is they'd sit there and if
any food was gone, they would go in the back

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and get some more food to put out, so it
wasn't.

RR: There wasn't a spot to pay?

TI: There was no spot to pay. There


was no --

RR: But to the best of your memory,


do you recall or know if they paid or not?

TI: I have no idea.

RR: Okay.

TI: And the truth of the situation


probably is, I don't know who was on official
and who was on unofficial most of the time.

RR: Uh-huh.

TI: So that would be where I would


probably get even more confused if you said,
hey, this person was on official and this
person was on unofficial, I'd be like, I just
kind of saw you there.

RR: It looks all kind of the same at


some point?

TI: Yeah.

RR: I completely get it. Got you.


Wanted to ask about an individual by the name
of .

TI: Okay. So we called him ,


right --

RR: Okay.

TI: The basketball player, right?

RR: Yes.

TI: Okay.

RR: What was -- what was -- how do


you know him, I guess, is the question?

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TI: So obviously, he came there;
played for us for two years, I think. And he
was from . was a
friend of their families. That's how I
perceived it. Obviously, he was maybe from
the same high school as . I don't
know if that's true or not, but I think that's
what I remember.
So he came in. School was very difficult
for him.

RR: Is this ?

TI: Oh, yeah. Derrick


Hamilton?

RR: So Derrick; do you recall that


name?

TI: Derrick Hamilton?

RR: Do you recall that name at all?

TI: Derrick Hamilton? You've got to


help me out a little bit.

RR: Okay. I can show you a picture


if that's okay.

TI: Yeah. That would be great.

RR: Okay. For the record, I'm


showing Travis a picture entitled enforcement
exhibit one. Does he look familiar?

TI: Yes. Yes. Okay. Now, I know


who this guy is.

RR: Okay.

TI: So he ran -- he would come up


there and supposedly he was running a workout
facility and workouts in Atlanta. And he
would come in and supposedly good friends with
Kevin and he always said, you know, Kevin is
my -- Kevin is my guy and things like that.
And I was like, great. You know, and he was
like do you mind if I watch your workouts and
I -- I was like sure you can watch my
workouts, whatever.

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And so -- and he would do work with guys
on the side. I don't know how, when, where.
How all that was orchestrated, but he would
work with guys on the side. And even -- I
interviewed for a job the year before. I
interviewed for SUU.
And pretty much, Kevin and everyone had
given me -- the idea that they were going to
hire this guy, but he didn't have a college
degree and he didn't have any certification,
so they -- he was trying to get -- this is all
hearsay, but he was trying to get his
certifications and he was very nice to me.
Always very kind.
I think he was always very kind to the
athletes. Now, I think at one point,
and and someone else went down in a
train with him in Atlanta during off season.
And I -- and I thought that was weird. I
think he had told me, you know, they can come
train with me for free. And all I could think
was, well, we have this nice facility. I'm up
here.
You know, coaches can still work with you
a certain amount of time; why are you going to
train with Derrick Hamilton? That was my
mind-set of why are we -- why are some of our
players going to train with him if -- if we
have a weight room, basketball court, and
pretty much everything there at UConn.
Do you have any specific questions? But
that's -- that's just --

RR: Yeah, I just wanted to see what


you --

TI: So yeah, I definitely remember.


And I -- you know, we traded text messages a
couple times of -- but I wouldn't say I knew
him well. I was actually trying to figure out
where he fit in the picture and why he was in
the picture. I didn't know that. And again,
it was kind of a situation where you're like,
what are you -- you can't ask the person, what
are you doing here and why are you here?

RR: So what was the time period of


when he was -- would come to campus?

TI: So he had to have been there

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sometime in the 2015, '16 season. He came
once or twice. Maybe even three times, but at
least once or twice.
And then he came, I think, back -- he came
back at the '16, '17 season. Now, I don't
know if he came once or twice or --

RR: To the best of your recollection,


what would you say?

TI: Yeah, he was -- I would say one


or two. I mean, I -- just totally guessing,
but I saw him periodically and after a while,
I got to know who he was, you know. And he
would do on the court workout with guys. I
don't remember when, how, why. But I was
like, can -- to me, I was like we have
assistant coaches for this; why are we hiring
an outside guy?

RR: When would he do the on court


workout; would you see any of those sessions
or --

TI: I didn't see them. I think I


heard about them. Like, I would -- a couple
guys would say -- I would say, hey -- after my
workout, I would tell them, hey, you need to
go eat -- rest and then eat. And they'd be
like, well, coach, I've got to -- I've got a
workout with Derrick at this time.
I'd be like, you do? You've got to rest,
you know. And it was again, this is where my
philosophy and Coach's was colliding. I
always felt like he was saying do more, more.
And I was saying, hey, you don't need more.
You actually need -- your shot is going to get
worse. You're going to feel awful.
I'm going to lose muscle mass on you if
you keep doing what you're doing all the time.
So that's where I got -- guys would tell me
and I'd be like -- or I'd have to personally
ask, hey, do you have a workout with Derrick
tonight? Or -- and again, I wish I could
remember what times those were that he came,
but I can't --

RR: Do you remember what student


athletes it was or how many on the team worked
out with Derrick?

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TI: I think it was quite a few
guards. I don't think it was ever necessarily
the bigs. But I think it was mostly .
I rarely think it was .

RR: Do you remember --

TI: I think --

RR: I'm sorry?

TI: Like and , I


don't think -- I think they were always doing
workouts with Coach Miller. But I remember
quite a few , whether it was ,
, -- sorry, I got them
mixed up at first.

RR: No, that's okay. That's no


problem. So you said --

TI: That's why I was like ,


that's not , but --

RR: So , --
what's 's last name?

TI: .

RR: . And who is the other


student athlete you mentioned?

TI: . And I would sure


think almost -- I don't know this and I can't
remember if did or not -- who else
was a for us at that time? I'd have to
look back at our rosters, but I think
did more than .

RR: Do you remember -- do you recall


how long those sessions lasted or did the
student athletes say?

TI: They didn't say, but my guess


would be hour and a half, most of time. But
they were always in the evening. Like, they
weren't usually during the daytime it was
always -- or my perception of it was always,
like, 7:00 p.m., 8:00 p.m., 9:00 p.m. And I

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was thinking, 9:00 p.m., I don't want to -- I
hate to say, I don't want to be up here at
9:00 p.m. doing something with them.

RR: And that perception is that


coming from when the student athletes told you
they had a session scheduled?

TI: Yes. And I think from those


conversations, I would -- because my big thing
with them was always sleep. You've got to get
your sleep or you're not going to recover and
you're going to get injured. So when they
would tell me that they had to come back up
here at 9:00. I would be like, well, you
know, make sure you get your tutoring done and
get to bed. And they would be like, Coach,
I've got, you know, an individual session at
9:00 or whatever.
And I'd be like, man, that's late. I know
that guys don't always go to bed by
10:30 anyways, but still to me, that was late.

RR: I think you mentioned that there


was some on the court work. Did they ever
elaborate on what was done during the
sessions; what type of activities?

TI: I remember walking by and seeing


him, like, do -- have bands on guys where they
were dribbling and jumping and shoots. And
that had to have been a weekend. And I don't
remember when, why I was up there.
But again, I thought it was a day off and
I was either doing something in my office and
I walked by and he was up there doing bands
with someone. And I guess I questioned it
because in terms of sports performance, none
of it made sense to me, so in my mind I was
like, using bands in this training that we're
doing, is it helping us or harming us? That's
what went through my mind.

RR: Do you remember when that was


that you saw him there? What time of the
year?

TI: It would -- I would say


preseason. It wasn't -- I don't think it was
during season doing extra work. Although, I

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think he did come up one time during extra --
during the season. I think it was early in
the year, but I don't -- I would just be
guessing.

RR: During that time that you said it


was preseason, was that during '15, '16 or
'16, '17; do you know?

TI: I would -- my best guess would be


'16, '17.

RR: Do you recall how many student


athletes were out there with him?

TI: He usually did individuals from


how I saw it or two or three. It was always,
you know -- and I'd hear guys say, like, it
was two or three running through drills
at the same time.

RR: So the time that you actually


witnessed --

TI: -- was just one.

RR: Just one?

TI: One guy.

RR: Do you remember who it was?

TI: Yes, but I can't remember his


name right now. He could jump out of the gym,
I could tell you that. He was a
, good kid.

HG: ?

AF:

TI: yep.
Now, I don't remember if that was after
-- that's the question I don't
remember. If he was -- if it was after he was
done playing with us or if he was still playing
for us. I couldn't tell you that. So it
could have been after he was done, still
training to try to play pro.

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RR: But the other sessions, were
those with current student athletes?

TI: Yes.

RR: I think you -- you kind of -- and


you said to the best of your recollection, he
could -- during the '15, '16 year he could
have came to campus one or two or possibly
three times. And then during '16, '17 one or
two times.
Would he conduct the sessions with student
athletes during each of those times that he
visited campus?

TI: That was my perception. Again, I


think all those were done in the evening time,
so usually, I was at home.

RR: What facility was used for that?

TI: The Werth.

RR: Were there any -- excuse me,


sorry. Were there any sessions done during
your time there called captain's practices;
does that ring any bell?

TI: I know we'd have, like, captains


or I remember specifically like workouts or
games that they would play pickup games at
certain times.
I don't know how those were orchestrated
or when those were orchestrated, but I know
that there was captains leading certain pickup
games.

RR: Was there staff members there or


coaches there?

TI: Not on the court. Every once in


a while, there would be a staff member up in
their office, but whether they were watching
or not, I don't know. But usually, I don't
think I ever saw a coach. Maybe -- and I
don't know if this was -- so I don't know how
this was classified, but on Saturday, I would
do -- we would run cemetery hill which is on
campus and then we would come back to the
complex and they would play pickup.
Now, I remember coaches being there. I

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don't know if -- how that was classified in
all our hours, but sometimes our coaches would
be. Not all the time, but every once in a
while. And you usually, I would run my
cemetery hill workout after they did -- I
would be in the weight room and then after
pickup, I would kind of -- they would have
food upstairs, so I would go around and say,
hey, do you need anything; are you good? Just
kind of ask -- and pretty much encourage guys
to eat at that point so that -- that's my best
recollection of when they had captain
practices or workouts, that's what I recall
the most.
Now, I know sometimes they would have
stuff in the evening after I went home. And I
don't know. Those were probably -- they were
playing pickup in the evenings, how I was --
how I heard it. Now, who was there, I don't
have a clue.

RR: Did -- I think you mentioned this


individual before, Dave Sevush.

TI: Uh-huh.

RR: Was there ever any sessions that


he did with student athletes, as far as review
or anything like that; do you recall?

TI: No. He was -- they had


encouraged -- I remember Kevin encouraging the
athletes to get with Dave to watch film
sometimes. But I don't -- I don't ever
remember -- I remember the time asking Dave,
hey, who watches film with you? And he was
like, no one. So I know that pretty much
after every practice, Kevin would be like,
hey, get with Dave if you need to see some
film and stuff.
He would say that almost every practice,
but there was -- I think there was probably
one or two athletes that probably went to him
and watched film somewhat. But it wasn't,
like, Dave's office was swamped with athletes
watching film.

RR: Did you ever see any -- any times


where student athletes were in there in his office?

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TI: No. And his office was in the
conference room upstairs, so usually when
those doors were shut, mine, I don't even
think they have a window to them, so if
they're shut, you didn't -- you usually knock.
You usually went and asked Larib, hey, can I
go in there?
Or she said, no, just put it on the desk.
So --

RR: One last little bit and then I'm


going to pause and see if we have some follow
up. As far as AAU coaches, did you ever
hear -- or was it something that was known
that coaches were expected to develop
relationships with AAU coaches or anything
like that?

TI: Like, can you -- I don't know.

RR: I can be more specific.

TI: Yeah, that'd be great because


I --

RR: Uh-huh. Did -- was it ever an


expectation that the coaching staff get to take
AAU coaches to dinner, get to know them,
develop a relationship with them, anything
like that?

TI: That would be my perception, yes.


Because AAU coaches like Coach , who was
even telling me, the strength coach, hey, I
have other guys that Kevin is going to want so
take care of . I'm like, I am, you know.
But I think, yes, my perception was
that -- and I don't even know how all the
recruiting works, but you got -- my perception
was that you needed to know AAU coaches.

RR: Did you ever hear Kevin Ollie ask


coaches to take AAU coaches to dinner or
anything like that?

TI: The only time that I probably


ever heard or would remember would be -- which
I thought was, like, official visits where the
AAU coach would come with the kid or a coach
would come with the kid instead of parents,

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so -- and I think they would all go to dinner.
That would -- that was my perception. Again,
now, if it's real or not, I don't -- I can't
tell you that.
But I think there was a couple of times
where coaches came with their student athletes
instead of parents.

RR: Uh-huh?

TI: For whatever reason that was, I


don't know.

RR: On an official or unofficial


visit?

TI: Yeah. And I couldn't tell you


which one it was either.

RR: But to the best of your


recollection, do you ever recall that being an
expectation of Coach Ollie's that, you know,
my coaching staff needs to take AAU coaches
out to dinner or --

TI: I never heard that.

RR: Okay. We'll pause there. Henry?

HG: Yeah. Jumping back around,


Travis. We talked about the one or two times
that you reported something to Deb about where
you thought there were times they had extra
practices. Trying to sort of go back to try
to figure out when those might be, can you
remember like a specific close loss to a great
team or maybe y'all lost to a team where
everybody thought y'all should be that, like,
you know, this is --

TI: I would for sure if it was a


team that we were supposed to beat.

HG: But you can't sit here and tell


me how it was after the SMU game or this game
when I just remembered everybody was angry we
lost and --

TI: No. I would have to try to go


back and look through things and say, hey,

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this is when I think it was.

HG: Right.

TI: If I have those records still.


But I really think it was never after -- I
mean, after a win, I was like, yes, I know
I've got the day off and I knew I was going to
be able to be at home.
So it -- we wouldn't -- as a staff, we
wouldn't even know. Like, if we lost a game
we should have won, we wouldn't know -- and
let's say we had to fly back four hours, we
wouldn't know until we were getting off the
plane, what even the next day looked like.
So you were just ready if you lost. So I
couldn't tell you those exact days.

HG: Okay. You mentioned the


captain's practice. We talked about it a
little bit and you mentioned at least being
aware of pickup games or times that the team
would get together.
You mentioned seeing some pickup games
after running the hill. Do you have any
recollection of any prospects participating in
any of that?

TI: Just those -- just that once


where there was some type of pickup game. And
I almost think it was after cemetery hill
because I think that was why I was there. And
that we were playing pickup with someone. I
didn't know who they were, you know. I hate
to say I --

HG: You don't know that they were


prospects or --

TI: No. I remember someone saying,


that kid is like a sophomore in high school.
And I went, he's a sophomore? Because he
was -- he could play, you know, even when I
was walking by. Not like I watched the whole
thing or anything.

HG: Right.

TI: But I guess I was surprised, one,


that we were playing against a sophomore in

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high school and then, two, at that point I
think I had been there for a couple years and
we had never had -- we had always played
pickup on ourselves, so I guess it was a
little odd that they were playing pickup with
other people.

HG: Right. Okay. And then you


mentioned coaches maybe occasionally being
around. Do you ever remember coaches being
around -- were coaches around at that specific
time, do you know, when the prospects or those
kids were there? Do you have a specific
recollection of that?

TI: I would sure think they were.

HG: Okay. Do you know -- I mean, I


guess it's -- we've talked a lot about
perception and things --

TI: I would sure think they were


because no one would have been able to tell me
who they were.

HG: I got you.

TI: But couldn’t tell you which coach


it was, no idea.

HG: Okay.

TI: Because I had to be talking to


someone on the side of the court, but I don't
remember who it was.

HG: Whether it was a manager, staff,


coach?

TI: Yeah.

HG: Kid on the team?

TI: And it might have been

HG: Okay. I think that's all I have,


Russell, for now.

RR: Okay.

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AA: Nothing. No thanks.

RR: Okay.

AF: I have a couple questions.

RR: Yes. Go ahead, Annie.

AF: Thanks. One, with the -- or with


the captain practices, the cemetery hill and
then the pickup games, would you say that that
would happen during preseason; what time of
year would those happen?

TI: Mostly during preseason. So I


always ran -- and I -- you know, I had six to
eight weeks that I ran cemetery hill pretty
consistently. And then right after that, the
guys would usually go play pickup and then
we'd have catered breakfast or lunch for them.
Now, when the captain's practices were, I
think those were very sporadic or -- but I
think for the most part, those were usually
during off season. I don't think the guys had
energy other than to meet at practice
anymore.

AF: Okay. Thanks. That helps. And


then do you ever remember holding anything
that you would consider to be a voluntary
workout when you were here and what did that
look like?

TI: I would have some voluntary


recovery days every once in a while. And that
would just be -- I hate to say it would kind
of be person dependent. So like,
-- isn't it -- is it ?

AF: yeah. Uh-huh.

TI: . He could come


in and he hadn't played for much, so he would
want to do something hard, so we'd do a
tougher lifting workout. And where like, if
or came in, I would make them
just do tissue work or some type of recover
and tell them to do, like, a contrast bath or
something of that sort.
So we'd do those every once in a while.
For the most part, we were already doing a
ton, so those weren't -- I wouldn't consider
those really regular.

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AF: Do you think the recover days,
those happened, like, after a game day, would
you say?

TI: Those would happen after --


usually after a game day and then -- in a
perfect world, we'd have a day off and then
we'd go workday. What I would classify as an
activation workout, which was mostly just
moving -- to get us moving for practice.
And then -- so it'd be workout day for me,
activation day, and then we'd play the next
day. Then recovery or off day. So does that
help?

AF: Yeah. That helps. Thanks. And


then the last question relates to Derrick
Hamilton. So did you ever speak with any of
our coaches about him working with the team or
report that to anyone, you know, Debbie Corum,
Paul McCarthy, anyone that you had mentioned?

TI: I think I asked Ricky Moore, hey,


what's going on with Derrick being here? And
I don't think I ever got a specific answer.
Now, I did not report that to anybody, that I
recall. If I -- I don't think I reported it
because I didn't know what was going on. And
I probably should have reported it to
everybody because I didn't know what was going
on.

AF: Okay. That helps. Thank you.

RR: Travis, as far as those captain's


practices, you said they were kind of
sporadic; is that fair to say?

TI: I would think so. Now, it'd


be -- I think it'd be interesting to -- to
talk to the players and their perception of
it. Because I think some of them probably
felt like it was mandatory. Now, whether it
was mandatory within the team or from higher
up, I don't know.

RR: How -- I know it's hard to put


numbers on things.

TI: Uh-huh.

RR: How long would you say that they


did occur, if you had to --

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TI: Like, during off season?

RR: During -- mine, were they only


during the off season or were some held during
the season?

TI: There was probably -- I would say


there was some during in season, but I mean,
our guys were so tired during in season, that
I think they were very far and few between.

RR: So --

TI: So to say that, I would say,


mostly off season. And I would say they were
probably regular during off season. I would
say they were -- my best guess would be three
to four times a week.

RR: And is this -- when we're saying


off season, just to clarify, so this is when
you started class up until the time their regular
in season starts?

TI: Right. And post season. I would


say we finished --

RR: Until school lets out?

TI: Right.

RR: Were these practices, were they


announced; did the coaches announce them or
how did the student athletes know about them?

TI: I think mostly how everything was


usually announced usually went through the
manager.

RR: Uh-huh.

TI: So I don't know if the managers


were texting out -- it was all text, so it
wasn't email. It was, hey -- my guess would
be pickup at this time or something of that
sort through the managers, though, I --

HG: You weren't involved in that


process at all?

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TI: No. The -- the managers, again,
they -- they know kind of what was going on
everywhere. That's my perception of the
managers. That they were kind of everywhere
doing everything.

RR: Were you -- did you attend any of


the captain's practices?

TI: No. Because they were usually at


times either on the weekends where I wanted to
be a dad or in the evenings where I wanted to
be at home.

RR: So can you say, were there any


other staff members there, coaches or
non-countable coaches?

TI: I wouldn't be able to say.

RR: My last little bit of


questions -- and I know that we have gone
over, so I really appreciate you sticking with
me. Just want to talk about just rules ed you
received on campus -- kind of rules education type
stuff?

TI: Rules? Okay.

RR: Did y'all ever have any


compliance sessions or, like, group meetings,
anything like that about NCAA rules?

TI: Yes.

RR: What were those?

TI: I know we'd have -- when we had


our big staff meetings, usually Angie would
stand up and say, hey this is this, this, and
this. And she'd give us you're going into
this period, watch for this and be mindful of
this.
So it was in big staff meetings like that
and then I think as a strength and
conditioning staff, they would always be
brought up when we met with -- with Coach
Balis and Mo Butler, we'd kind of go over it.
And if we had questions about something,
we'd ask one another; hey, who knows this

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answer? And Mo would say, oh, well, I'd find
that out. So that was our -- probably our
biggest rules education/we were always given a
huge book.

RR: Uh-huh?

TI: That everybody's given.

RR: Oh, yeah.

TI: I don't think that anyone went


through that huge book, but the general,
everyone was usually brought up to the eight
hours, 20 hours, this is how many times, you
know.

RR: How often were those all staff


meetings that you mentioned?

TI: Annie, were they once a month?

AF: Yeah, we had a monthly


compliance -- I think at your time, we'd have
a monthly compliance meeting.

TI: Yeah, I think so too. Now, I


would say I was there for probably most of
them but not -- sometimes we would travel
during a couple of them.

RR: And I think you mentioned Angie,


so Angie Cretors?

TI: Yes.

RR: That led those sessions? And I


think you mentioned this a little bit, but
she'd cover rules kind of pertinent to what
you were doing kind of about strength and
conditioning, what coaches can and cannot do,
times of the year where certain -- you know,
in season out of season?

TI: Yes.

RR: Is that some things that she


would cover with you?

TI: Yes. And I even think she


started sending emails the last year saying,

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hey, you're -- you know, pretty much, hey,
these people are cleared to do stuff with you;
these people are not. Don't do anything with
these people.
So we would get those emails kind of
saying, here's your list of people that they
can do NCAA stuff and these people can't. So
don't work with these people on the court or
in the weight room because they're not
cleared. And so it was kind of like a red
light, green light.
RR: Got you. And I think you said
y'all had your own strength and conditioning
staff meetings.

TI: Yes.

RR: Where y'all would go over rules


education; is that kind of what you're saying?

TI: Yes. And that was usually with


Matt Balis and Mo Butler.

RR: Did you feel like you had a good


relationship with compliance that you could
reach out to somebody if you needed to and ask
questions?

TI: Yes. And I probably felt the


most comfortable with Debbie.

RR: Okay.

TI: So that's who I usually went to.

RR: Got you. Very good. Henry, did


you have any follow up?

HG: No. I think as we wrap up, as I


recall, even you would sign -- annually be
asked to sign some level of compliance
certification form telling people you'd passed
along or told somebody any NCAA issues you
were aware of; do you remember that?

TI: Yes. It was a big folder.

HG: Yeah. So other than sort of what


you've told us reporting to Debbie about the

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practice time, any other issues we haven't
talked about that you were aware of then that
you didn't disclose?

TI: No.

HG: Okay. And you did -- just to be


fair, you disclosed the practice issue to
Debbie --

TI: Yes.

HG: -- the one or two times it came


up?

TI: Yes.

HG: Okay. I think that's all I have.

RR: Todd? Anne?

AA: We do not have any questions.


Thank you.

RR: Annie, do you have any final


questions?

AF: No additional questions, thank


you.

RR: Okay. All right, Travis, we're


almost done. I just have a little bit to read
through here at the end. Before I do that,
just want to ask kind of what Henry asked. Is
there anything else that we've -- that we
haven't covered today; anything else that,
during your time at UConn, gave you pause or
any reason for concern that we haven't talked
about?

TI: I mean, again, I don't have proof


of this, but my greatest pause is probably the
way Debbie Corum was dealt with at UConn gives
me some inclination that -- and I don't know
how I heard it through the grapevine, but
Kevin heard that she was reporting things and
that -- that makes me disheartened. Again,
that's hearsay, but I felt like the way she
was treated at the end, part of her time at
UConn was someone somewhere was frustrated

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with her.
And -- and I remember trying to find who I
could go to help clarify that situation and
there was no one that I knew of and that she
knew of that she could go to. And I think
that was an ah-hah moment for me that there's
people over people everywhere.
So I think, to me, more than anything,
that whole situation was very disheartening.
Obviously, I was disheartened with how Kevin
handled me interviewing, but I think the big
thing was, to me, when some things went --
happened with Debbie and she was treated
unfairly. There was no one to turn to, I
think.

HG: Let me ask you a little bit about


that, Travis. You mentioned sort of when your
issues came up, David Benedict ultimately got
involved as I recall?

TI: Yes.

HG: And I think you said it was


pretty smooth sailing once he injected himself
into that situation; fair?

TI: Yes.

HG: Do you know if Debbie or you went


to him about whatever her issues were?

TI: No. She -- I don't know how it


all exactly went down, but I think it all
happened with Warde.

HG: Okay.

TI: And the -- the lawyer at UConn


was sitting in there with that meeting and
that --

HG: And -- go ahead.

TI: And so I think -- I think my


perception is David Benedict, when he walked
into that situation, said he was either told
this situation is out of your hands; let it
go, don't touch it or he wasn't told anything
about the situation.
And it just kind of went on from there. I
don't -- again, when things went south with

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Debbie at UConn, I think it was mostly -- I
don't know who it was, but my perception, even
talking with Warde Manuel after is that he has
a lot of respect for Debbie, so some of how
she was treated, things don't line up in my
mind. So I think that's where -- and then --
and again, I don't even remember how I heard
that Kevin heard that she reported that we
were over practicing and I don't know if Kevin
was frustrated with her or however that went,
but my perception is that somehow anything
that we were doing wrong was -- Debbie was
reporting as she would and then that came back
on her in a negative fashion.

HG: So as we try to find out dates of


when your reports to Deb took place about the
one or two practice time issues that you
raised, should we now assume that they
occurred at our around the time she was
ultimately let go, so toward the end of the
season? Or you're saying your reports could
have happened in December, but it wasn't until
March that all this fell apart?

TI: I would -- no, she took -- she


came here in.

TB: A year before you.

TI: A year before me, so this was the


year before --

HG: December?

TI: Yeah. So she -- this had to be


'15, '16.

HG: Right.

TI: And/or '13, '14 -- wait, not '13,


'14. '16 -- it was earlier that I had
reported it to her and I think wisely she had
asked me a couple times, hey, are you with
your family today? Asking pretty much as an
administrator, hey, I know you should have the
day off, are you? And I would be like, no, we
have practice.
So she was watching. But I would think
all of the things that -- that occurred was --

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because I remember going to Kevin and telling
him a little bit about Debbie's situation and
him telling me, you need to stay out of this.
This has nothing to do with you. You
shouldn't -- you need to just let it be.
There's nothing we can do. And I thought,
something is not right here. You can do
something. But he was pretty quick to tell
me, don't make a fuss about it. And I was
like, I don't know. When things stunk, I
could tell that they stunk. And none of it
made sense to me.

HG: And so just help me understand --


we've been kind of dancing around the issue.
You keep saying how Deb was treated. How was
she treated? What stunk?

TI: Near the end when either she was


asked to resign or encouraged to resign or
whatnot, she asked why she was being -- had
she not done everything she was asked to do.
And Warde had told her that she had; she
had done everything that she was asked to do
and that she had done her responsibility. So
again, that begs the question of why was
Debbie Corum either encouraged to resign or I
don't know how it was told to her. And why
was -- you know, why was the lawyer in there
with it and why was -- why was there other
things in that situation that don't make
sense?
If you couldn't tell her anything she did
wrong and you couldn't tell her pretty much
anything, then -- and I know Warde Manuel,
he's pretty up front. He's not going to hide
behind something. If I didn't do any job
well, he's going to tell me exactly, hey, you
didn't do this and you didn't do that. So
for -- it just got all interesting to me near
that point where Debbie decided to move on and
from my understanding, David Benedict wanted
to keep her. And was not either allowed to or
was not -- something was above David and said
no.

HG: Okay. And again, getting back to


sort of what you know and what you think or
what you hear.

TI: And that's where I said, when it

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comes down to it, I know very little other
than, I think, we probably went over two days.

HG: Right.

TI: And I remember Coach Miller


telling me that he was asked to give
money and he didn't.

HG: Perfect. But as far as this Deb


issue, is Deb the source of your information,
or were you having conversations with Warde
yourself? You told us about your conversation
with Kevin.

TI: Deb was my source of information


on those conversations. And then my --
obviously my conversations with Kevin, I
pretty much said, hey -- because I went to him
and I was like, what's going on? This is --
and he was like, well, I don't know. You tell
me. And I -- so I said, hey, you know, kind
of told him. And he was like, well, things
happen like this all the time, Travis. Let it
be.
And at one -- when I first got to UConn,
he said -- because I was trying to get
something bought for the weight room and he
would tell me, go to Debbie because she's --
she can work with you and help us get this so
that you have the equipment you need. So he
would always tell me to go to Debbie to help
get equipment and things and then at one
point, there was -- I don't know. It's all
hearsay after that point.

HG: Okay. I appreciate you sharing.


It's helpful to hear even if it's not
firsthand just to try to get a background and
understanding. That's all I have. Annie,
anything else?

AF: No, I don't have anything.


Thanks.

AA: Nothing.

RR: Travis, well, thank you for


taking the time to talk with us today. It's
been very helpful. We really appreciate it.

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Before we conclude, do you have any questions
for me?

TI: No. Again, I -- I think my


biggest concern and my biggest hope is that I
don't want to base things off of hearsay, but
I do want whatever truth is of the situation
to be -- I want to be transparent mostly for
the student athlete's sake, so if -- I mean, I
think that's the hardest thing in all of this
is a lot of what I know I think is a little
bit of hearsay and a little bit of just being
around.
So that's the hardest thing for me even
preparing for this is, you know, if I came in,
I had two facts pretty much. And then the
hearsay of some of the other feelings.

HG: Right.

RR: Thanks, Travis. Okay. The last


thing I need to tell you is that the NCAA
legislation requires that you help protect the
integrity of this investigation. Therefore,
as the investigation continues, we ask that
you're not permitted to speak the others about
what we discussed today or any information
related to this investigation, except that you
may speak with personal legal counsel, if you
choose to obtain them, others present in the
room today, and myself, which always gets me
because I am present in the room, but anyway.
Failure to protect the integrity of this
investigation could result in an allegation
that you violated the principles of ethical
conduct and/or the cooperative principle. Do
you understand that, Travis?

TI: Yes.

RR: Okay. At some point after the


NCAA completes its investigation, someone else
involved as a party in this case or their
attorney, legal counsel, or representative may
request to interview you about matters related
to this case.
We encourage you to agree to speak with
them just as you've agreed to speak with us.
However, this does not include any
representatives from the media. So if you do
have any questions about who you can and
cannot talk to us, please contact me or reach

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out to me through these people here on campus.
Any other questions for me?

TI: No.

RR: Okay. Then I'll note for the


record that the interview concluded at
11:05 a.m. Mountain Time. Thank you, sir.
Thanks, Travis.

TI: Thank you guys.

RR: We appreciate it.

-- END OF AUDIO --

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From: Bannister, Kelly  
Sent: Sunday, March 18, 2018 7:18 PM 
To: Michael Bailey (MichaelBailey@uconnaaup.org) <MichaelBailey@uconnaaup.org> 
Cc: Brian Doyle (briandoyle@fdclawoffice.com) <briandoyle@fdclawoffice.com>; Benedict, David 
<david.benedict@uconn.edu> 
Subject: Kevin Ollie 
  
Michael, 
  
In response to your March 13, 2018 request for information, the University is producing the attached materials used to 
determine that there exists just cause for the termination of Kevin Ollie as set forth in David Benedict’s March 10, 2018 
letter.  
  
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Please be advised that names and other personally identifiable information of students has been redacted in accordance 
with FERPA. For consistency and privacy, names and personally identifiable information of prospective students has 
been similarly redacted.  
  
Thanks,  
Kelly 
  
Kelly L. Bannister, Esq. 
Associate Director and Attorney 
  
Office of Faculty & Staff Labor Relations 
University of Connecticut 
9 Walters Avenue, Unit 5075 
Storrs, Connecticut 06269‐5075 
Tel: (860) 486‐2585 (direct) 
Tel: (860) 486‐5684 (main) 
Fax: (860) 486‐3390 
kelly.bannister@uconn.edu 
  
www.lr.uconn.edu 
  
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Philippi, Megan

From: Bannister, Kelly


Sent: Friday, March 30, 2018 6:52 PM
To: Michael Bailey
Cc: Hood, Keith; Barbara Kratochvil; Brian Doyle
Subject: Re: UConn-AAUP Information request

Michael, 
 
While I disagree that this information is necessary to your representation of Coach Ollie at this stage of the 
process, we are diligently working on your request. I anticipate being able to provide a response for May 2013 
forward soon, as that is when the NCAA’s online reporting system was adopted. Earlier information may take 
longer to review and provide. 
 
Thanks, 
Kelly 
 
Sent from my iPhone 
 
On Mar 30, 2018, at 6:40 PM, Michael Bailey <MichaelBailey@uconnaaup.org> wrote: 

Kelly, 
 
Is there any information you can give me as to the responsiveness of this request? With the 
hearing scheduled in less than 1 week, advanced access to this information is very important. 
 
Michael 
Michael Bailey 
Executive Director 
UConn‐AAUP 
860‐487‐0450  
 
From: "Bannister, Kelly" <kelly.bannister@uconn.edu> 
Date: Tuesday, March 27, 2018 5:20 PM 
To: Michael Bailey <michaelbailey@uconnaaup.org>, "Hood, Keith" <keith.hood@uconn.edu> 
Cc: Barbara Kratochvil <BarbaraK@uconnaaup.org> 
Subject: RE: UConn‐AAUP Information request 

Michael, 
  
Please allow this email to acknowledge receipt of this request. 
  
Thanks, 
Kelly 
  
Kelly L. Bannister, Esq. 
Associate Director and Attorney 
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Office of Faculty & Staff Labor Relations 
University of Connecticut 
9 Walters Avenue, Unit 5075 
Storrs, Connecticut 06269‐5075 
Tel: (860) 486‐2585 (direct) 
Tel: (860) 486‐5684 (main) 
Fax: (860) 486‐3390 
kelly.bannister@uconn.edu 
  
www.lr.uconn.edu 
  
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by sending a reply e‐mail to the sender. Thank you. 
  
  
  
  
From: Michael Bailey [mailto:MichaelBailey@uconnaaup.org]  
Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2018 3:16 PM 
To: Bannister, Kelly <kelly.bannister@uconn.edu>; Hood, Keith <keith.hood@uconn.edu> 
Cc: Barbara Kratochvil <BarbaraK@uconnaaup.org> 
Subject: UConn‐AAUP Information request 
  
Ms. Bannister, 
  
UConn‐AAUP hereby request's the following information for collective bargaining purposes: 
  
This request is for all Men's and Women's intercollegiate sports governed by the National 
Collegiate Athletic Association (NCAA) at the University of Connecticut (UCONN). 
  
Any and all NCAA Major Rules violations self‐reported by the University from January 1, 
2009 through March 25, 2018 delineated by: 
Men's and Women's Head Coach self reporting 
UCONN Compliance Office self reporting 
Any and all NCAA Major Rules violations discovered by the NCAA from January 1, 2009 
through March 25, 2018; 
Any and all NCAA Minor Rules violations self‐reported by the University from January 1, 
2009 through March 25, 2018 delineated by: 
Men's and Women's Head Coach self reporting 
UCONN Compliance Office self reporting 

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Any and all NCAA Minor Rules violations discovered by the NCAA from January 1, 2009 – 
March 25, 2018. 
  
Timeliness of this information is extremely important. 
  
Thank you. 
 
Michael 
Michael Bailey 
Executive Director 
UConn‐AAUP 
860‐487‐0450 

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Philippi, Megan

From: Bannister, Kelly


Sent: Monday, April 2, 2018 8:58 AM
To: Michael Bailey
Cc: Hood, Keith; Barbara Kratochvil; Brian Doyle
Subject: RE: UConn-AAUP Information request
Attachments: Violation Report.pdf

Michael, 
 
In response to your request, please see the attached report. As previously indicated, in May 2013 the NCAA adopted an 
online reporting system (NCAA Requests/Self‐Reports Online System (RSRO)) for violations and student‐athlete 
reinstatement cases. The University provides this response based on information available through the RSRO system. 
The University continues to review records from before May 2013, and reserves the right to supplement its response as 
appropriate. 
 
Additionally, in August 2013, the NCAA moved from the previous terminology of “major” and “secondary” violations to 
the current level system. Under the new violation structure, “Level III” violations would fall under the “secondary” 
category. 
 
Thanks, 
Kelly 
 
Kelly L. Bannister, Esq. 
Associate Director and Attorney 
 
Office of Faculty & Staff Labor Relations 
University of Connecticut 
9 Walters Avenue, Unit 5075 
Storrs, Connecticut 06269‐5075 
Tel: (860) 486‐2585 (direct) 
Tel: (860) 486‐5684 (main) 
Fax: (860) 486‐3390 
kelly.bannister@uconn.edu 
 
www.lr.uconn.edu 
 
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message and attachments and immediately notify this office by sending a reply e‐mail to the sender. Thank you. 
 
 
 
 
From: Bannister, Kelly  
Sent: Friday, March 30, 2018 6:52 PM 
To: Michael Bailey <MichaelBailey@uconnaaup.org> 
Cc: Hood, Keith <keith.hood@uconn.edu>; Barbara Kratochvil <BarbaraK@uconnaaup.org>; Brian Doyle 
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<briandoyle@fdclawoffice.com> 
Subject: Re: UConn‐AAUP Information request 
 
Michael, 
 
While I disagree that this information is necessary to your representation of Coach Ollie at this stage of the 
process, we are diligently working on your request. I anticipate being able to provide a response for May 2013 
forward soon, as that is when the NCAA’s online reporting system was adopted. Earlier information may take 
longer to review and provide. 
 
Thanks, 
Kelly 
 
Sent from my iPhone 
 
On Mar 30, 2018, at 6:40 PM, Michael Bailey <MichaelBailey@uconnaaup.org> wrote: 

Kelly, 
 
Is there any information you can give me as to the responsiveness of this request? With the 
hearing scheduled in less than 1 week, advanced access to this information is very important. 
 
Michael 
Michael Bailey 
Executive Director 
UConn‐AAUP 
860‐487‐0450  
 
From: "Bannister, Kelly" <kelly.bannister@uconn.edu> 
Date: Tuesday, March 27, 2018 5:20 PM 
To: Michael Bailey <michaelbailey@uconnaaup.org>, "Hood, Keith" <keith.hood@uconn.edu> 
Cc: Barbara Kratochvil <BarbaraK@uconnaaup.org> 
Subject: RE: UConn‐AAUP Information request 

Michael, 
  
Please allow this email to acknowledge receipt of this request. 
  
Thanks, 
Kelly 
  
Kelly L. Bannister, Esq. 
Associate Director and Attorney 
  
Office of Faculty & Staff Labor Relations 
University of Connecticut 
9 Walters Avenue, Unit 5075 
Storrs, Connecticut 06269‐5075 
Tel: (860) 486‐2585 (direct) 
Tel: (860) 486‐5684 (main) 
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Fax: (860) 486‐3390 
kelly.bannister@uconn.edu 
  
www.lr.uconn.edu 
  
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recipient, please destroy all copies of this message and attachments and immediately notify this office 
by sending a reply e‐mail to the sender. Thank you. 
  
  
  
  
From: Michael Bailey [mailto:MichaelBailey@uconnaaup.org]  
Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2018 3:16 PM 
To: Bannister, Kelly <kelly.bannister@uconn.edu>; Hood, Keith <keith.hood@uconn.edu> 
Cc: Barbara Kratochvil <BarbaraK@uconnaaup.org> 
Subject: UConn‐AAUP Information request 
  
Ms. Bannister, 
  
UConn‐AAUP hereby request's the following information for collective bargaining purposes: 
  
This request is for all Men's and Women's intercollegiate sports governed by the National 
Collegiate Athletic Association (NCAA) at the University of Connecticut (UCONN). 
  
Any and all NCAA Major Rules violations self‐reported by the University from January 1, 
2009 through March 25, 2018 delineated by: 
Men's and Women's Head Coach self reporting 
UCONN Compliance Office self reporting 
Any and all NCAA Major Rules violations discovered by the NCAA from January 1, 2009 
through March 25, 2018; 
Any and all NCAA Minor Rules violations self‐reported by the University from January 1, 
2009 through March 25, 2018 delineated by: 
Men's and Women's Head Coach self reporting 
UCONN Compliance Office self reporting 
Any and all NCAA Minor Rules violations discovered by the NCAA from January 1, 2009 – 
March 25, 2018. 
  
Timeliness of this information is extremely important. 
  
Thank you. 
 
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Michael 
Michael Bailey 
Executive Director 
UConn‐AAUP 
860‐487‐0450 

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Date of Self Reported By Sport or
Sport Bylaw Violation Type
Violation Discovered by Compliance
2010-2011 Violation Report Summary
4/22/2010 Women's Basketball 13 Secondary Discovered by Compliance
2/22/2011 Men's Basketball 2, 10, 11, 12, 13 Major Discovered by NCAA/Compliance
7/5/2011 Football 15 Secondary Discovered by Compliance Bylaw Key
7/7/2011 Women's Basketball 13 Secondary Discovered by Compliance 11 Personnel
7/7/2011 Women's Basketball 13 Secondary Discovered by Compliance 12 Amateurism
7/28/2011 Women's Soccer 15 Secondary Discovered by Compliance 13 Recruiting
7/28/2011 Men's Soccer 15 Secondary Discovered by Compliance 14 Eligibility
2011-2012 Violation Report Summary 15 Financial Aid
9/24/2011 Men's Tennis 13 Secondary Discovered by Compliance 16 Awards and Benefits
11/7/2011 Men's Basketball 12 Secondary Discovered by Compliance 17 Playing Seasons
11/30/2011 Baseball 16 Secondary Self Reported by Sport
1/13/2012 Baseball 12 Secondary Self Reported by Sport
1/30/2012 Women's Track and Field 13 Secondary Self Reported by Sport
5/29/2012 Softball 13 Secondary Discovered by Compliance
6/5/2012 Men's Ice Hockey 14 Secondary Discovered by Compliance
7/21/2012 Men's Basketball 14 Secondary Self Reported by Sport
2012-2013 Violation Report Summary
8/7/2012 Football 13 Secondary Discovered by Compliance
8/9/2012 Football 15 Secondary Discovered by Compliance
8/9/2012 Football 15 Secondary Discovered by Compliance
8/9/2012 Men's Basketball 15 Secondary Discovered by Compliance
12/10/2012 Men's Ice Hockey 13 Secondary Discovered by Compliance
12/21/2012 Women's Basketball 13 Secondary Discovered by Compliance
12/26/2012 Women's Rowing 13 Secondary Self Reported by Sport
1/5/2013 Women's Basketball 13 Secondary Self Reported by Sport
4/1/2013 Men's and Women's Tennis 16 Secondary Discovered by Compliance
4/5/2013 Men's Basketball 13 Secondary Discovered by Compliance
4/7/2013 Women's Basketball 13 Secondary Discovered by Compliance
4/21/2013 Women's Soccer 13 Secondary Discovered by Compliance
6/20/2013 Softball 13 Secondary Self Reported by Sport
6/25/2013 Women's Lacrosse 13 Secondary Self Reported by Sport
7/1/2013 Women's Soccer 15 Secondary Discovered by Compliance
7/22/2013 Women's Swimming and Diving 13 Secondary Discovered by Compliance
2013-2014 Violation Report Summary (NEW NCAA Violation Structure 8/1/13)
9/25/2013 Women's Basketball 13 Level III Discovered by Compliance
10/21/2013 Men's Ice Hockey 13 Level III Self Reported by Sport
11/8/2013 Men's Swimming and Diving 13 Level III Discovered by Compliance
11/8/2013 Softball 13 Level III Self Reported by Sport
11/18/2013 Men's Basketball 16 Level III Discovered by Compliance
11/18/2013 Women's Track and Field 14 Level III Self Reported by Sport
11/20/2013 Women's Track and Field 14 Level III Self Reported by Sport
12/8/2013 Men's Track and Field 13 Level III Discovered by Compliance
1/13/2014 Football 13 Level III Self Reported by Sport
1/8/2014 Men's Basketball 12 Level III Discovered by Compliance
2/11/2014 Women's Track and Field 14 Level III Self Reported by Sport
2/18/2014 Men's Track and Field 13 Level III Self Reported by Sport
3/12/2014 Women's Volleyball 13 Level III Self Reported by Sport
4/3/2014 Men's Tennis 17 Level III Self Reported by Sport
4/8/2014 Women's Basketball 16 Level III Discovered by Compliance
4/13/2014 Women's Basketball 13 Level III Discovered by Compliance
4/14/2014 Men's Golf 13 Level III Self Reported by Sport
4/18/2014 Women's Basketball 17 Level III Discovered by Compliance
4/18/2014 Men's Basketball 12 Level III Discovered by Compliance
4/21/2014 Softball 13 Level III Self Reported by Sport
5/7/2014 Football 13 Level III Self Reported by Sport
5/19/2014 Women's Volleyball 13 Level III Discovered by Compliance
5/30/2014 Football 13 Level III Discovered by NCAA
6/5/2014 Football 13 Level III Discovered by Compliance
6/30/2014 Women's Volleyball 13 Level III Self Reported by Sport
7/7/2014 Football 15 Level III Discovered by Compliance
7/18/2014 Men's Basketball 14 Level III Self Reported by Sport
2014-2015 Violation Report Summary
9/2/2014 Women's Volleyball 13 Level III Self Reported by Sport
9/4/2014 Women's Basketball 13 Level III Discovered by Compliance
9/16/2014 Football 13 Level III Discovered by Compliance
10/21/2014 Women's Lacrosse 13 Level III Self Reported by Sport
12/9/2014 Men's Track and Field 17 Level III Discovered by Compliance
12/11/2014 Football 13 Level III Discovered by Compliance
12/16/2014 Baseball 13 Level III Self Reported by Sport
1/13/2015 Softball 13 Level III Self Reported by Sport
2/11/2015 Football 13 Level III Discovered by Compliance
3/2/2015 Women's Soccer 15 Level III Discovered by Compliance
4/30/2015 Baseball 13 Level III Self Reported by Sport
6/9/2015 Softball 13 Level III Self Reported by Sport
7/1/2015 Baseball 13 Level III Self Reported by Sport
7/21/2015 Men's Swimming and Diving 13 Level III Discovered by Compliance
2015-2016 Violation Report Summary
8/11/2015 Men's Track and Field 16 Level III Discovered by Compliance
9/9/2015 Baseball 13 Level III Self Reported by Sport
10/17/2018 Softball 13 Level III Self Reported by Sport
10/29/2015 Women's Basketball 13 Level III Self Reported by Sport
11/23/2015 Women's Track and Field 13 Level III Discovered by Compliance
1/6/2016 Women's Lacrosse 13 Level III Self Reported by Sport
1/11/2016 Men's Track and Field 13 Level III Discovered by Compliance
1/28/2016 Men's Tennis 14 Level III Self Reported by Sport
2/1/2016 Football 15 Level III Discovered by Compliance
2/16/2016 Men's Basketball 13 Level III Discovered by Compliance
3/31/2016 Women's Track and Field 13 Level III Discovered by Compliance
4/14/2016 Men's Basketball 12 Level III Discovered by Compliance
4/14/2016 Men's Track and Field 13 Level III Discovered by Compliance
4/19/2016 Women's Rowing 13 Level III Self Reported by Sport
4/30/2016 Women's Basketball 13 Level III Discovered by Compliance
7/6/2016 Women's Volleyball 13 Level III Self Reported by Sport
2016-2017 Violation Report Summary
9/6/2016 Men's Soccer 13 Level III Self Reported by Sport
9/16/2016 Women's Track and Field 17 Level III Discovered by Compliance
10/16/2016 Baseball 13 Level III Self Reported by Sport
10/24/2016 Men's Basketball 13 Level III Discovered by Compliance
11/8/2016 Football 13 Level III Self Reported by Sport
11/14/2016 Women's Lacrosse 13 Level III Self Reported by Sport
11/9/2016 Football 16 Level III Discovered by Compliance
1/10/2017 Football 11 Level III Discovered by Compliance
1/26/2017 Women's Track and Field 16 Level III Self Reported by Sport
1/27/2017 Women's Basketball 15 Level III Discovered by Compliance
2/16/2017 Men's Track and Field 14 Level III Discovered by Compliance
2/24/2017 Men's Swimming and Diving 16 Level III Discovered by Compliance
3/5/2017 Football 11 Level III Self Reported by Sport
3/21/2017 Women's Track and Field 12 Level III Discovered by Compliance
3/21/2017 Women's Rowing 11 Level III Self Reported by Sport
3/23/2017 Men's Soccer 13 Level III Self Reported by Sport
3/31/2017 Women's Lacrosse 16 Level III Self Reported by Sport
6/14/2017 Rowing 13 Level III Self Reported By Sport
7/10/2017 Men's Basketball 17 Level III Discovered by Compliance
2017-2018 Violation Report Summary
7/31/2017 Athletics Communications 13 Level III Discovered by Compliance
8/18/2017 Baseball 13 Level III Self Reported By Sport
9/1/2017 Baseball 13 Level III Self Reported By Sport
9/9/2017 Men's Basketball 13 Level III Discovered by Compliance
10/22/2017 Men's Basketball 12 Level III Discovered by Compliance
11/1/2017 Football 15 Level III Discovered by Compliance
11/19/2017 Men's and Women's Swimming and Diving 17 Level III Self Reported By Sport
11/24/2017 Women's Lacrosse 13 Level III Self Reported by Sport
Field Hockey;
Women's Soccer;
1/12/2018 13 Level III Discovered by Compliance
Women's Tennis; and
Athletics Communications
3/8/2018 Men's Basketball 16 Level III Discovered by Compliance
Philippi, Megan

From: Barbara Kratochvil <BarbaraK@uconnaaup.org>


Sent: Monday, April 2, 2018 1:03 PM
To: Bannister, Kelly
Subject: OLLIE, KEVIN : Kevin Ollie

Thank you, Kelly! 
 
Barbara 
 
Barbara Kratochvil 
Sr. Administrative Assistant 
UConn‐AAUP 
860‐487‐0450 
 
 
‐‐‐‐‐Original Message‐‐‐‐‐ 
From: Bannister, Kelly [mailto:kelly.bannister@uconn.edu]  
Sent: Monday, April 02, 2018 1:02 PM 
To: Barbara Kratochvil <BarbaraK@uconnaaup.org> 
Cc: Michael Bailey <MichaelBailey@uconnaaup.org>; BRIAN DOYLE <briandoyle@fdclawoffice.com> 
Subject: Re: OLLIE, KEVIN : Kevin Ollie 
 
Barbara, 
 
February 26th 
 
Kelly 
 
Sent from my iPhone 
 
> On Apr 2, 2018, at 10:53 AM, Barbara Kratochvil <BarbaraK@uconnaaup.org> wrote: 
>  
> Good Morning, Kelly – 
>  
> Can you please provide us with the interview date (by student) page – Ollie Admin 0009 – 0045? 
>  
> Thank you! 
> Barbara 
>  
> Barbara Kratochvil 
> Sr. Administrative Assistant 
> UConn‐AAUP 
> 860‐487‐0450 
>  
> From: Michael Bailey 
> Sent: Monday, March 19, 2018 7:22 AM 
> To: Barbara Kratochvil <BarbaraK@uconnaaup.org> 
> Subject: OLLIE, KEVIN : Kevin Ollie 

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>  
> Please print a hard copy. Thanks. 
> Michael Bailey 
> UConn‐AAUP 
>  
>  
> Begin forwarded message: 
> From: "Bannister, Kelly"  
> <kelly.bannister@uconn.edu<mailto:kelly.bannister@uconn.edu>> 
> To: "Michael Bailey"  
> <MichaelBailey@uconnaaup.org<mailto:MichaelBailey@uconnaaup.org>> 
> Cc: "Brian Doyle  
> (briandoyle@fdclawoffice.com<mailto:briandoyle@fdclawoffice.com>)"  
> <briandoyle@fdclawoffice.com<mailto:briandoyle@fdclawoffice.com>>,  
> "Benedict, David"  
> <david.benedict@uconn.edu<mailto:david.benedict@uconn.edu>> 
> Subject: Kevin Ollie 
> Michael, 
>  
> In response to your March 13, 2018 request for information, the University is producing the attached materials used to 
determine that there exists just cause for the termination of Kevin Ollie as set forth in David Benedict’s March 10, 2018 
letter. 
>  
> Please be advised that names and other personally identifiable information of students has been redacted in 
accordance with FERPA. For consistency and privacy, names and personally identifiable information of prospective 
students has been similarly redacted. 
>  
> Thanks, 
> Kelly 
>  
> Kelly L. Bannister, Esq. 
> Associate Director and Attorney 
>  
> Office of Faculty & Staff Labor Relations University of Connecticut 
> 9 Walters Avenue, Unit 5075 
> Storrs, Connecticut 06269‐5075 
> Tel: (860) 486‐2585 (direct) 
> Tel: (860) 486‐5684 (main) 
> Fax: (860) 486‐3390 
> kelly.bannister@uconn.edu<mailto:kelly.bannister@uconn.edu> 
>  
> www.lr.uconn.edu<http://www.lr.uconn.edu> 
>  
> PRIVILEGED AND CONFIDENTIAL COMMUNICATION: The information contained in this electronic message and any 
attachments to it are intended for the exclusive use of the addressees and may contain confidential attorney‐client 
communication and/or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, please destroy all copies of this 
message and attachments and immediately notify this office by sending a reply e‐mail to the sender. Thank you. 
> <Ollie Packet.pdf> 

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Philippi, Megan

From: Bannister, Kelly


Sent: Tuesday, April 3, 2018 10:05 PM
To: Michael Bailey
Cc: Hood, Keith; Barbara Kratochvil; Brian Doyle
Subject: RE: UConn-AAUP Information request
Attachments: Revised Violation Report.pdf

Michael, 
 
As indicated below, the University reserved its right to supplement its response. Please see the attached Revised 
Violation Report, which includes additional information about pre‐May 2013 violations. 
 
Thanks, 
Kelly 
 
Kelly L. Bannister, Esq. 
Associate Director and Attorney 
 
Office of Faculty & Staff Labor Relations 
University of Connecticut 
9 Walters Avenue, Unit 5075 
Storrs, Connecticut 06269‐5075 
Tel: (860) 486‐2585 (direct) 
Tel: (860) 486‐5684 (main) 
Fax: (860) 486‐3390 
kelly.bannister@uconn.edu 
 
www.lr.uconn.edu 
 
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communication and/or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, please destroy all copies of this 
message and attachments and immediately notify this office by sending a reply e‐mail to the sender. Thank you. 
 
 
 
 
From: Bannister, Kelly  
Sent: Monday, April 02, 2018 8:58 AM 
To: Michael Bailey <MichaelBailey@uconnaaup.org> 
Cc: Hood, Keith <keith.hood@uconn.edu>; Barbara Kratochvil <BarbaraK@uconnaaup.org>; Brian Doyle 
<briandoyle@fdclawoffice.com> 
Subject: RE: UConn‐AAUP Information request 
 
Michael, 
 
In response to your request, please see the attached report. As previously indicated, in May 2013 the NCAA adopted an 
online reporting system (NCAA Requests/Self‐Reports Online System (RSRO)) for violations and student‐athlete 
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reinstatement cases. The University provides this response based on information available through the RSRO system. 
The University continues to review records from before May 2013, and reserves the right to supplement its response as 
appropriate. 
 
Additionally, in August 2013, the NCAA moved from the previous terminology of “major” and “secondary” violations to 
the current level system. Under the new violation structure, “Level III” violations would fall under the “secondary” 
category. 
 
Thanks, 
Kelly 
 
Kelly L. Bannister, Esq. 
Associate Director and Attorney 
 
Office of Faculty & Staff Labor Relations 
University of Connecticut 
9 Walters Avenue, Unit 5075 
Storrs, Connecticut 06269‐5075 
Tel: (860) 486‐2585 (direct) 
Tel: (860) 486‐5684 (main) 
Fax: (860) 486‐3390 
kelly.bannister@uconn.edu 
 
www.lr.uconn.edu 
 
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communication and/or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, please destroy all copies of this 
message and attachments and immediately notify this office by sending a reply e‐mail to the sender. Thank you. 
 
 
 
 
From: Bannister, Kelly  
Sent: Friday, March 30, 2018 6:52 PM 
To: Michael Bailey <MichaelBailey@uconnaaup.org> 
Cc: Hood, Keith <keith.hood@uconn.edu>; Barbara Kratochvil <BarbaraK@uconnaaup.org>; Brian Doyle 
<briandoyle@fdclawoffice.com> 
Subject: Re: UConn‐AAUP Information request 
 
Michael, 
 
While I disagree that this information is necessary to your representation of Coach Ollie at this stage of the 
process, we are diligently working on your request. I anticipate being able to provide a response for May 2013 
forward soon, as that is when the NCAA’s online reporting system was adopted. Earlier information may take 
longer to review and provide. 
 
Thanks, 
Kelly 
 
Sent from my iPhone 
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On Mar 30, 2018, at 6:40 PM, Michael Bailey <MichaelBailey@uconnaaup.org> wrote: 

Kelly, 
 
Is there any information you can give me as to the responsiveness of this request? With the 
hearing scheduled in less than 1 week, advanced access to this information is very important. 
 
Michael 
Michael Bailey 
Executive Director 
UConn‐AAUP 
860‐487‐0450  
 
From: "Bannister, Kelly" <kelly.bannister@uconn.edu> 
Date: Tuesday, March 27, 2018 5:20 PM 
To: Michael Bailey <michaelbailey@uconnaaup.org>, "Hood, Keith" <keith.hood@uconn.edu> 
Cc: Barbara Kratochvil <BarbaraK@uconnaaup.org> 
Subject: RE: UConn‐AAUP Information request 

Michael, 
  
Please allow this email to acknowledge receipt of this request. 
  
Thanks, 
Kelly 
  
Kelly L. Bannister, Esq. 
Associate Director and Attorney 
  
Office of Faculty & Staff Labor Relations 
University of Connecticut 
9 Walters Avenue, Unit 5075 
Storrs, Connecticut 06269‐5075 
Tel: (860) 486‐2585 (direct) 
Tel: (860) 486‐5684 (main) 
Fax: (860) 486‐3390 
kelly.bannister@uconn.edu 
  
www.lr.uconn.edu 
  
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recipient, please destroy all copies of this message and attachments and immediately notify this office 
by sending a reply e‐mail to the sender. Thank you. 
  
  
  
  

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From: Michael Bailey [mailto:MichaelBailey@uconnaaup.org]  
Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2018 3:16 PM 
To: Bannister, Kelly <kelly.bannister@uconn.edu>; Hood, Keith <keith.hood@uconn.edu> 
Cc: Barbara Kratochvil <BarbaraK@uconnaaup.org> 
Subject: UConn‐AAUP Information request 
  
Ms. Bannister, 
  
UConn‐AAUP hereby request's the following information for collective bargaining purposes: 
  
This request is for all Men's and Women's intercollegiate sports governed by the National 
Collegiate Athletic Association (NCAA) at the University of Connecticut (UCONN). 
  
Any and all NCAA Major Rules violations self‐reported by the University from January 1, 
2009 through March 25, 2018 delineated by: 
Men's and Women's Head Coach self reporting 
UCONN Compliance Office self reporting 
Any and all NCAA Major Rules violations discovered by the NCAA from January 1, 2009 
through March 25, 2018; 
Any and all NCAA Minor Rules violations self‐reported by the University from January 1, 
2009 through March 25, 2018 delineated by: 
Men's and Women's Head Coach self reporting 
UCONN Compliance Office self reporting 
Any and all NCAA Minor Rules violations discovered by the NCAA from January 1, 2009 – 
March 25, 2018. 
  
Timeliness of this information is extremely important. 
  
Thank you. 
 
Michael 
Michael Bailey 
Executive Director 
UConn‐AAUP 
860‐487‐0450 

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Date of Self Reported By Sport or Discovered
Sport Bylaw Violation Type
Violation by Compliance
2009-2010 Violation Report Summary
8/8/2009 Women's Basketball 13 Secondary Discovered by Compliance Bylaw Key
8/26/2009 Women's Ice Hockey 13 Secondary Self Reported by Sport 11 Personnel
9/2/2009 Men's Golf 17 Secondary Discovered by Compliance 12 Amateurism
9/9/2009 Women's Swimming and Diving 13 Secondary N/A 13 Recruiting
9/9/2009 Women's Basketball 12 Secondary N/A 14 Eligibility
9/9/2009 Men's Basketball 13 Secondary N/A 15 Financial Aid
10/1/2009 Men's and Women's Tennis 13, 16 Secondary Discovered by Compliance 16 Awards and Benefits
10/13/2009 Women's Lacrosse 13 Secondary N/A 17 Playing Seasons
11/6/2009 Men's Basketball 16 Secondary Discovered by Compliance
11/6/2009 Softball 13 Secondary N/A
12/16/2009 Women's Swimming and Diving 13 Secondary N/A
12/21/2009 Football 13 Secondary Self Reported by Sport
4/22/2010 Women's Basketball 13 Secondary Discovered by Compliance
1/4/2010 Men's Basketball 13 Secondary N/A
1/13/2010 Men's Basketball 17 Secondary N/A
1/13/2010 Women's Swimming and Diving 16 Secondary N/A
1/13/2010 Women's Swimming and Diving 16 Secondary Self Reported by Sport
1/13/2010 Women's Lacrosse 13 Secondary N/A
1/14/2010 Women's Basketball 13 Secondary N/A
1/15/2010 Men's Track and Field 14 Secondary N/A
1/20/2010 Men's Basketball 13 Secondary N/A
2/12/2010 Baseball 13 Secondary N/A
2/16/2010 Baseball 13 Secondary N/A
2/22/2010 Women's Basketball 12 Secondary N/A
3/6/2010 Women's Swimming and Diving 13 Secondary Self Reported by Sport
7/8/2010 Women's Basketball 13 Secondary Self Reported by Sport
2010-2011 Violation Report Summary
9/20/2010 Women's Track and Field 12 Secondary N/A
10/1/2010 Men's Basketball 13 Secondary N/A
10/1/2010 Softball 13 Secondary N/A
11/22/2010 Men's Soccer 12 Secondary N/A
11/22/2010 Men's Basketball 12 Secondary N/A
11/22/2010 Women's Basketball 12 Secondary N/A
11/22/2010 Women's Volleyball 16 Secondary N/A
12/2/2010 Men's Golf 16 Secondary N/A
12/2/2010 Women's Track and Field 12 Secondary N/A
12/6/2010 Men's Basketball 13 Secondary N/A
12/9/2010 Women's Soccer 11 Secondary Self Reported by Sport
12/9/2010 Men's Basketball 13 Secondary N/A
2/12/2011 Men's Tennis 12, 14,16 Secondary N/A
2/15/2011 Women's Soccer 13 Secondary N/A
2/22/2011 Men's Basketball 2, 10, 11, 12, 13 Major Discovered by Compliance/NCAA
3/4/2011 Men's Ice Hockey 13 Secondary N/A
3/4/2011 Women's Basketball 13 Secondary N/A
4/1/2011 Football 13 Secondary N/A
4/1/2011 Men's Soccer 13 Secondary N/A
4/25/2011 Men's Swimming and Diving 13 Secondary N/A
6/28/2011 Field Hockey 13 Secondary N/A
6/28/2011 Women's Soccer 13 Secondary N/A
6/28/2011 Administrative 12 Secondary N/A
7/1/2011 Men's Basketball 16 Secondary Discovered by Compliance
7/5/2011 Football 15 Secondary Discovered by Compliance
7/7/2011 Women's Basketball 13 Secondary Discovered by Compliance
7/7/2011 Women's Basketball 13 Secondary Discovered by Compliance
7/28/2011 Women's Soccer 15 Secondary Discovered by Compliance
7/28/2011 Men's Soccer 15 Secondary Discovered by Compliance
2011-2012 Violation Report Summary
9/15/2011 Men's Basketball 17 Secondary N/A
9/15/2011 Women's Ice Hockey 13 Secondary N/A
9/15/2011 Women's Basketball 13 Secondary N/A
9/21/2011 Football 13 Secondary N/A
9/24/2011 Men's Tennis 13 Secondary Discovered by Compliance
10/1/2011 Men's Basketball 16 Secondary Discovered by Compliance
10/1/2011 Football 13 Secondary N/A
10/1/2011 Football 10 Secondary Discovered by Compliance
10/7/2011 Men's Ice Hockey 14 Secondary Discovered by Compliance
10/10/2011 Men's Golf 12, 14,16 Secondary N/A
11/7/2011 Men's Basketball 12 Secondary Discovered by Compliance
11/8/2011 Men's Basketball 13 Secondary Discovered by Compliance
11/26/2011 Men's Basketball 13 Secondary Discovered by Compliance
11/30/2011 Baseball 16 Secondary Self Reported by Sport
12/2/2011 Men's Soccer 13 Secondary N/A
12/2/2011 Women's Swimming and Diving 13 Secondary N/A
12/2/2011 Women's Lacrosse 13 Secondary N/A
12/2/2011 Men's Soccer 16 Secondary N/A
12/2/2011 Women's Tennis 17 Secondary N/A
12/2/2011 Men's Basketball 13 Secondary N/A
1/13/2012 Baseball 12 Secondary Self Reported by Sport
1/30/2012 Women's Track and Field 13 Secondary Self Reported by Sport
3/19/2012 Men's Track and Field 16 Secondary N/A
5/29/2012 Softball 13 Secondary Discovered by Compliance
6/15/2012 Football 13 Secondary N/A
7/21/2012 Men's Basketball 14 Secondary Self Reported by Sport
7/25/2012 Women's Basketball 13 Secondary Self Reported by Sport
2012-2013 Violation Report Summary
8/7/2012 Football 13 Secondary Discovered by Compliance
8/9/2012 Football 15 Secondary Discovered by Compliance
8/9/2012 Football 15 Secondary Discovered by Compliance
8/9/2012 Men's Basketball 15 Secondary Discovered by Compliance
8/9/2012 Women's Lacrosse 13 Secondary N/A
8/9/2012 Field Hockey 13 Secondary N/A
8/9/2012 Men's Basketball 17 Secondary N/A
8/9/2012 Men's Track and Field 13 Secondary N/A
8/31/2012 Baseball 13 Secondary Self Reported by Sport
9/22/2012 Women's Lacrosse 13 Secondary Self Reported by Sport
12/10/2012 Men's Ice Hockey 13 Secondary Discovered by Compliance
12/21/2012 Women's Basketball 13 Secondary Discovered by Compliance
12/26/2012 Women's Rowing 13 Secondary Self Reported by Sport
1/5/2013 Women's Basketball 13 Secondary Self Reported by Sport
1/20/2013 Men's Ice Hockey 13 Secondary Self Reported by Sport
2/15/2013 Field Hockey 13 Secondary Self Reported by Sport
4/1/2013 Men's and Women's Tennis 16 Secondary Discovered by Compliance
4/5/2013 Men's Basketball 13 Secondary Discovered by Compliance
4/7/2013 Women's Basketball 13 Secondary Discovered by Compliance
4/21/2013 Women's Soccer 13 Secondary Discovered by Compliance
6/20/2013 Softball 13 Secondary Self Reported by Sport
6/25/2013 Women's Lacrosse 13 Secondary Self Reported by Sport
7/1/2013 Women's Soccer 15 Secondary Discovered by Compliance
7/22/2013 Women's Swimming and Diving 13 Secondary Discovered by Compliance
2013-2014 Violation Report Summary (NEW NCAA Violation Structure 8/1/13)
9/25/2013 Women's Basketball 13 Level III Discovered by Compliance
10/21/2013 Men's Ice Hockey 13 Level III Self Reported by Sport
11/8/2013 Men's Swimming and Diving 13 Level III Discovered by Compliance
11/8/2013 Softball 13 Level III Self Reported by Sport
11/18/2013 Men's Basketball 16 Level III Discovered by Compliance
11/18/2013 Women's Track and Field 14 Level III Self Reported by Sport
11/20/2013 Women's Track and Field 14 Level III Self Reported by Sport
12/8/2013 Men's Track and Field 13 Level III Discovered by Compliance
1/13/2014 Football 13 Level III Self Reported by Sport
1/8/2014 Men's Basketball 12 Level III Discovered by Compliance
2/11/2014 Women's Track and Field 14 Level III Self Reported by Sport
2/18/2014 Men's Track and Field 13 Level III Self Reported by Sport
3/12/2014 Women's Volleyball 13 Level III Self Reported by Sport
4/3/2014 Men's Tennis 17 Level III Self Reported by Sport
4/8/2014 Women's Basketball 16 Level III Discovered by Compliance
4/13/2014 Women's Basketball 13 Level III Discovered by Compliance
4/14/2014 Men's Golf 13 Level III Self Reported by Sport
4/18/2014 Women's Basketball 17 Level III Discovered by Compliance
4/18/2014 Men's Basketball 12 Level III Discovered by Compliance
4/21/2014 Softball 13 Level III Self Reported by Sport
5/7/2014 Football 13 Level III Self Reported by Sport
5/19/2014 Women's Volleyball 13 Level III Discovered by Compliance
5/30/2014 Football 13 Level III Discovered by NCAA
6/5/2014 Football 13 Level III Discovered by Compliance
6/30/2014 Women's Volleyball 13 Level III Self Reported by Sport
7/7/2014 Football 15 Level III Discovered by Compliance
7/18/2014 Men's Basketball 14 Level III Self Reported by Sport
2014-2015 Violation Report Summary
9/2/2014 Women's Volleyball 13 Level III Self Reported by Sport
9/4/2014 Women's Basketball 13 Level III Discovered by Compliance
9/16/2014 Football 13 Level III Discovered by Compliance
10/21/2014 Women's Lacrosse 13 Level III Self Reported by Sport
12/9/2014 Men's Track and Field 17 Level III Discovered by Compliance
12/11/2014 Football 13 Level III Discovered by Compliance
12/16/2014 Baseball 13 Level III Self Reported by Sport
1/13/2015 Softball 13 Level III Self Reported by Sport
2/11/2015 Football 13 Level III Discovered by Compliance
3/2/2015 Women's Soccer 15 Level III Discovered by Compliance
4/30/2015 Baseball 13 Level III Self Reported by Sport
6/9/2015 Softball 13 Level III Self Reported by Sport
7/1/2015 Baseball 13 Level III Self Reported by Sport
7/21/2015 Men's Swimming and Diving 13 Level III Discovered by Compliance
2015-2016 Violation Report Summary
8/11/2015 Men's Track and Field 16 Level III Discovered by Compliance
9/9/2015 Baseball 13 Level III Self Reported by Sport
10/27/2015 Softball 13 Level III Self Reported by Sport
10/29/2015 Women's Basketball 13 Level III Self Reported by Sport
11/23/2015 Women's Track and Field 13 Level III Discovered by Compliance
1/6/2016 Women's Lacrosse 13 Level III Self Reported by Sport
1/11/2016 Men's Track and Field 13 Level III Discovered by Compliance
1/28/2016 Men's Tennis 14 Level III Self Reported by Sport
2/1/2016 Football 15 Level III Discovered by Compliance
2/16/2016 Men's Basketball 13 Level III Discovered by Compliance
3/31/2016 Women's Track and Field 13 Level III Discovered by Compliance
4/14/2016 Men's Basketball 12 Level III Discovered by Compliance
4/14/2016 Men's Track and Field 13 Level III Discovered by Compliance
4/19/2016 Women's Rowing 13 Level III Self Reported by Sport
4/30/2016 Women's Basketball 13 Level III Discovered by Compliance
7/6/2016 Women's Volleyball 13 Level III Self Reported by Sport
2016-2017 Violation Report Summary
9/6/2016 Men's Soccer 13 Level III Self Reported by Sport
9/16/2016 Women's Track and Field 17 Level III Discovered by Compliance
10/16/2016 Baseball 13 Level III Self Reported by Sport
10/24/2016 Men's Basketball 13 Level III Discovered by Compliance
11/8/2016 Football 13 Level III Self Reported by Sport
11/14/2016 Women's Lacrosse 13 Level III Self Reported by Sport
11/9/2016 Football 16 Level III Discovered by Compliance
1/10/2017 Football 11 Level III Discovered by Compliance
1/26/2017 Women's Track and Field 16 Level III Self Reported by Sport
1/27/2017 Women's Basketball 15 Level III Discovered by Compliance
2/16/2017 Men's Track and Field 14 Level III Discovered by Compliance
2/24/2017 Men's Swimming and Diving 16 Level III Discovered by Compliance
3/5/2017 Football 11 Level III Self Reported by Sport
3/21/2017 Women's Track and Field 12 Level III Discovered by Compliance
3/21/2017 Women's Rowing 11 Level III Self Reported by Sport
3/23/2017 Men's Soccer 13 Level III Self Reported by Sport
3/31/2017 Women's Lacrosse 16 Level III Self Reported by Sport
6/14/2017 Rowing 13 Level III Self Reported By Sport
7/10/2017 Men's Basketball 17 Level III Discovered by Compliance
2017-2018 Violation Report Summary
7/31/2017 Athletics Communications 13 Level III Discovered by Compliance
8/18/2017 Baseball 13 Level III Self Reported By Sport
9/1/2017 Baseball 13 Level III Self Reported By Sport
9/9/2017 Men's Basketball 13 Level III Discovered by Compliance
10/22/2017 Men's Basketball 12 Level III Discovered by Compliance
11/1/2017 Football 15 Level III Discovered by Compliance
Men's and Women's Swimming
11/19/2017 17 Level III Self Reported By Sport
and Diving
11/24/2017 Women's Lacrosse 13 Level III Self Reported by Sport
Field Hockey;
Women's Soccer;
1/12/2018 13 Level III Discovered by Compliance
Women's Tennis; and
Athletics Communications
3/8/2018 Men's Basketball 16 Level III Discovered by Compliance
Philippi, Megan

From: Michael Bailey <MichaelBailey@uconnaaup.org>


Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2018 3:24 PM
To: Benedict, David
Cc: Ollie, Kevin; Rubin, Rachel; Gelston, Nicole; Bannister, Kelly; Brian Doyle; Ricky Lefft;
Barbara Kratochvil
Subject: Hearing request
Attachments: K. Ollie hearing request 3-10-18.doc

Follow Up Flag: Flag for follow up


Flag Status: Flagged

March 10, 2018 
  
David Benedict 
Athletic Director 
University of Connecticut 
  
Dear David, 
  
In response to you letter to Kevin Ollie, Men’s Head Basketball Coach, dated March 10, 2018, and in 
accordance with Article 37.12.B.ii of the collective bargaining agreement, UConn‐AAUP, on behalf of Kevin 
Ollie, requests a hearing before the Director of Athletics in order to respond to any evidence the Director has 
in his decision to terminate Mr. Ollie as Men’s Head Basketball Coach.  
  
Please move to schedule a hearing within the fifteen‐day window as indicated in the collective bargaining 
agreement. 
  
Sincerely, 
  
  
Michael Bailey 
Executive Director 
  
  
Cc:  Kevin Ollie, Men’s Head Basketball Coach 
       Rachel Rubin, Chief of Staff to the President 
       Nicole Fournier Gelston, Interim General Counsel 
       Kelly Bannister, Office of Faculty and Staff Labor Relations 
       Brian Doyle, Attorney, Ferguson and Doyle 
       Ricky Lefft, Attorney, LeClairRyan 

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The University of Connecticut Chapter of 1875 Storrs Road
Storrs, Connecticut 06268
Campus Mail: AAUP, U-6028
WWW.UCONNAAUP.ORG
Telephone: (860) 487-0450
Fax: (860) 487-0341
The American Association of University Professors
 

March 10, 2018 
 
David Benedict 
Athletic Director 
University of Connecticut 
 
Dear David, 
 
In response to you letter to Kevin Ollie, Men’s Head Basketball Coach, dated March 10, 2018, and in 
accordance with Article 37.12.B.ii of the collective bargaining agreement, UConn‐AAUP, on behalf of Kevin 
Ollie, requests a hearing before the Director of Athletics in order to respond to any evidence the Director has 
in his decision to terminate Mr. Ollie as Men’s Head Basketball Coach.  
 
Please move to schedule a hearing within the fifteen‐day window as indicated in the collective bargaining 
agreement. 
 
Sincerely, 
 
 
Michael Bailey 
Executive Director 
 
 
Cc: Kevin Ollie, Men’s Head Basketball Coach 
       Rachel Rubin, Chief of Staff to the President 
       Nicole Fournier Gelston, Interim General Counsel 
       Kelly Bannister, Office of Faculty and Staff Labor Relations 
       Brian Doyle, Attorney, Ferguson and Doyle 
       Ricky Lefft, Attorney, LeClairRyan 
 
 
 
Philippi, Megan

From: Michael Bailey <MichaelBailey@uconnaaup.org>


Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2018 10:22 AM
To: Goetz, Beth
Cc: Bannister, Kelly; Gelston, Nicole
Subject: Re: Kevin Ollie

Thank you. 
 
Michael 
 
From: "Goetz, Beth" <beth.goetz@uconn.edu> 
Date: Sunday, March 11, 2018 8:49 AM 
To: Michael Bailey <michaelbailey@uconnaaup.org> 
Cc: "Bannister, Kelly" <kelly.bannister@uconn.edu>, "Gelston, Nicole" <nicole.gelston@uconn.edu> 
Subject: Re: Kevin Ollie 
 
Michael,  
 
Please ask Kevin to leave those item for Larib to pick up from his house. Thanks. 

Beth Goetz  
UConnHuskies.com 
 
On Mar 11, 2018, at 9:43 AM, Michael Bailey <MichaelBailey@uconnaaup.org> wrote: 

Beth, 
 
I have reached out to Nicole seeking a response from David Benedict. Kevin is leaving for Los Angeles at 12:30 
PM this afternoon and will not have time to return keys and a computer. Please let me know if Kevin can 
return the items when he returns from LA on Wednesday. Otherwise, he can make arrangement for Larib to 
pick them up at his house. 
 
Michael 
 
From: "Goetz, Beth" <beth.goetz@uconn.edu> 
Date: Saturday, March 10, 2018 10:16 AM 
To: "Bannister, Kelly" <kelly.bannister@uconn.edu>, Michael Bailey <michaelbailey@uconnaaup.org> 
Cc: "Gelston, Nicole" <nicole.gelston@uconn.edu> 
Subject: Kevin Ollie 
 
Mike and Kelly, 
  
Please find attached copies of the letters provided to Kevin Ollie. 
  

Beth Goetz
Chief Operating Officer 

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UConn Division of Athletics
PHONE: 860.486.2725 | FAX: 860.486.3300
2095 Hillside Road, U-1173 | Storrs, CT 06269-1173 

UConnHuskies.com | @UConnHuskies 

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Philippi, Megan

From: Michael Bailey <MichaelBailey@uconnaaup.org>


Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2018 10:01 AM
To: Bannister, Kelly; Benedict, David
Cc: Ollie, Kevin; Rubin, Rachel; Gelston, Nicole; Brian Doyle; Ricky Lefft; Barbara Kratochvil
Subject: Re: Hearing request

Ms. Bannister, 
 
Unfortunately, neither date you provided, March 15th nor 16th, are available for a hearing for Coach Ollie.
Please provide alternate dates during the week of March 19th. 
 
In order for Coach Ollie to provide a thorough response at this hearing, I am requesting all
information/evidence the administration will be presenting at the hearing. Specifically, any and all
information/evidence that supports their claim of violations of NCAA bylaws and behaviors that violate
Coach Ollie’s Employment Contract and AAUP contract, as outlined in the Athletic Director’s letter dated
March 10 2018, including: 
 
Failure to promote compliance; 
Failure to timely report instances of non‐compliance; 
Intentional participation in an impermissible on‐campus activity with a prospective student‐athlete during 
an official visit; 
Intentional facilitation of a prohibited contact between a prospective student‐athlete and a representative 
of the institutions athletic interests for recruiting purposes. 
 
Thank you. 
 
Michael 
 
From: "Bannister, Kelly" <kelly.bannister@uconn.edu> 
Date: Monday, March 12, 2018 5:26 PM 
To: Michael Bailey <michaelbailey@uconnaaup.org>, "Benedict, David" <david.benedict@uconn.edu> 
Cc: "Ollie, Kevin" <kevin.ollie@uconn.edu>, "Rubin, Rachel" <rachel.rubin@uconn.edu>, "Gelston, Nicole" 
<nicole.gelston@uconn.edu>, Brian Doyle <briandoyle@fdclawoffice.com>, Ricky Lefft <ricky.lefft@leclairryan.com>, 
Barbara Kratochvil <BarbaraK@uconnaaup.org> 
Subject: RE: Hearing request 
 
Michael, 
  
Please allow this email to confirm receipt of your below request for a hearing before the Director of Athletics. 
We are available for such meeting at any time on Thursday, March 15 or Friday, March 16. Kindly let me know 
at what time(s) on those dates you and Mr. Ollie are available. 
  
Thanks, 
Kelly 
  
  
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Kelly L. Bannister 
Associate Director of Labor Relations and Attorney 
  
Office of Faculty & Staff Labor Relations 
University of Connecticut 
9 Walters Avenue, Unit 5075 
Storrs, Connecticut 06269‐5075 
Tel: (860) 486‐2585 (direct) 
Tel: (860) 486‐5684 (main) 
Fax: (860) 486‐3390 
kelly.bannister@uconn.edu 
  
www.lr.uconn.edu 
  
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From: Michael Bailey [mailto:MichaelBailey@uconnaaup.org]  
Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2018 3:24 PM 
To: Benedict, David <david.benedict@uconn.edu> 
Cc: Ollie, Kevin <kevin.ollie@uconn.edu>; Rubin, Rachel <rachel.rubin@uconn.edu>; Gelston, Nicole 
<nicole.gelston@uconn.edu>; Bannister, Kelly <kelly.bannister@uconn.edu>; Brian Doyle 
<briandoyle@fdclawoffice.com>; Ricky Lefft <ricky.lefft@leclairryan.com>; Barbara Kratochvil 
<BarbaraK@uconnaaup.org> 
Subject: Hearing request 
  
March 10, 2018 
  
David Benedict 
Athletic Director 
University of Connecticut 
  
Dear David, 
  
In response to you letter to Kevin Ollie, Men’s Head Basketball Coach, dated March 10, 2018, and in 
accordance with Article 37.12.B.ii of the collective bargaining agreement, UConn‐AAUP, on behalf of Kevin 
Ollie, requests a hearing before the Director of Athletics in order to respond to any evidence the Director has 
in his decision to terminate Mr. Ollie as Men’s Head Basketball Coach.  
  
Please move to schedule a hearing within the fifteen‐day window as indicated in the collective bargaining 
agreement. 
  
Sincerely, 
  
  
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Michael Bailey 
Executive Director 
  
  
Cc:  Kevin Ollie, Men’s Head Basketball Coach 
       Rachel Rubin, Chief of Staff to the President 
       Nicole Fournier Gelston, Interim General Counsel 
       Kelly Bannister, Office of Faculty and Staff Labor Relations 
       Brian Doyle, Attorney, Ferguson and Doyle 
       Ricky Lefft, Attorney, LeClairRyan 

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Philippi, Megan

From: Michael Bailey <MichaelBailey@uconnaaup.org>


Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2018 8:14 PM
To: Bannister, Kelly
Cc: Brian Doyle
Subject: Re: Hearing request

Kelly, 
 
When can we expect the information/evidence the administration will be presenting at the hearing? We will need an 
opportunity to exam and prepare a response. 
 
Michael 
 
From: "Bannister, Kelly" <kelly.bannister@uconn.edu> 
Date: Wednesday, March 14, 2018 3:21 PM 
To: Michael Bailey <michaelbailey@uconnaaup.org> 
Subject: RE: Hearing request 
 
Michael, 
  
We are available for the hearing on Thursday, March 22. Please let me know what time(s) on this date you are available.  
  
Thanks, 
Kelly 
  
From: Michael Bailey [mailto:MichaelBailey@uconnaaup.org]  
Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2018 10:01 AM 
To: Bannister, Kelly <kelly.bannister@uconn.edu>; Benedict, David <david.benedict@uconn.edu> 
Cc: Ollie, Kevin <kevin.ollie@uconn.edu>; Rubin, Rachel <rachel.rubin@uconn.edu>; Gelston, Nicole 
<nicole.gelston@uconn.edu>; Brian Doyle <briandoyle@fdclawoffice.com>; Ricky Lefft <ricky.lefft@leclairryan.com>; 
Barbara Kratochvil <BarbaraK@uconnaaup.org> 
Subject: Re: Hearing request 
  
Ms. Bannister, 
 
Unfortunately, neither date you provided, March 15th nor 16th, are available for a hearing for Coach Ollie.
Please provide alternate dates during the week of March 19th. 
 
In order for Coach Ollie to provide a thorough response at this hearing, I am requesting all
information/evidence the administration will be presenting at the hearing. Specifically, any and all
information/evidence that supports their claim of violations of NCAA bylaws and behaviors that violate
Coach Ollie’s Employment Contract and AAUP contract, as outlined in the Athletic Director’s letter dated
March 10 2018, including: 
 
Failure to promote compliance; 
Failure to timely report instances of non‐compliance; 

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Intentional participation in an impermissible on‐campus activity with a prospective student‐athlete during 
an official visit; 
Intentional facilitation of a prohibited contact between a prospective student‐athlete and a representative 
of the institutions athletic interests for recruiting purposes. 
 
Thank you. 
 
Michael 
  
From: "Bannister, Kelly" <kelly.bannister@uconn.edu> 
Date: Monday, March 12, 2018 5:26 PM 
To: Michael Bailey <michaelbailey@uconnaaup.org>, "Benedict, David" <david.benedict@uconn.edu> 
Cc: "Ollie, Kevin" <kevin.ollie@uconn.edu>, "Rubin, Rachel" <rachel.rubin@uconn.edu>, "Gelston, Nicole" 
<nicole.gelston@uconn.edu>, Brian Doyle <briandoyle@fdclawoffice.com>, Ricky Lefft <ricky.lefft@leclairryan.com>, 
Barbara Kratochvil <BarbaraK@uconnaaup.org> 
Subject: RE: Hearing request 
  
Michael, 
  
Please allow this email to confirm receipt of your below request for a hearing before the Director of Athletics. 
We are available for such meeting at any time on Thursday, March 15 or Friday, March 16. Kindly let me know 
at what time(s) on those dates you and Mr. Ollie are available. 
  
Thanks, 
Kelly 
  
  
Kelly L. Bannister 
Associate Director of Labor Relations and Attorney 
  
Office of Faculty & Staff Labor Relations 
University of Connecticut 
9 Walters Avenue, Unit 5075 
Storrs, Connecticut 06269‐5075 
Tel: (860) 486‐2585 (direct) 
Tel: (860) 486‐5684 (main) 
Fax: (860) 486‐3390 
kelly.bannister@uconn.edu 
  
www.lr.uconn.edu 
  
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From: Michael Bailey [mailto:MichaelBailey@uconnaaup.org]  
Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2018 3:24 PM 
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To: Benedict, David <david.benedict@uconn.edu> 
Cc: Ollie, Kevin <kevin.ollie@uconn.edu>; Rubin, Rachel <rachel.rubin@uconn.edu>; Gelston, Nicole 
<nicole.gelston@uconn.edu>; Bannister, Kelly <kelly.bannister@uconn.edu>; Brian Doyle 
<briandoyle@fdclawoffice.com>; Ricky Lefft <ricky.lefft@leclairryan.com>; Barbara Kratochvil 
<BarbaraK@uconnaaup.org> 
Subject: Hearing request 
  
March 10, 2018 
  
David Benedict 
Athletic Director 
University of Connecticut 
  
Dear David, 
  
In response to you letter to Kevin Ollie, Men’s Head Basketball Coach, dated March 10, 2018, and in 
accordance with Article 37.12.B.ii of the collective bargaining agreement, UConn‐AAUP, on behalf of Kevin 
Ollie, requests a hearing before the Director of Athletics in order to respond to any evidence the Director has 
in his decision to terminate Mr. Ollie as Men’s Head Basketball Coach.  
  
Please move to schedule a hearing within the fifteen‐day window as indicated in the collective bargaining 
agreement. 
  
Sincerely, 
  
  
Michael Bailey 
Executive Director 
  
  
Cc:  Kevin Ollie, Men’s Head Basketball Coach 
       Rachel Rubin, Chief of Staff to the President 
       Nicole Fournier Gelston, Interim General Counsel 
       Kelly Bannister, Office of Faculty and Staff Labor Relations 
       Brian Doyle, Attorney, Ferguson and Doyle 
       Ricky Lefft, Attorney, LeClairRyan 

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Philippi, Megan

From: Michael Bailey <MichaelBailey@uconnaaup.org>


Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2018 4:12 PM
To: Bannister, Kelly
Cc: Brian Doyle; Barbara Kratochvil
Subject: Re: Hearing request

Kelly, 
 
We are available on this date as well. Probably best to start in the morning. Would you prefer 9:30 or 10:00 AM?  
 
I must also reiterate the importance of preparing for this meeting and again request, in a timely fashion, all 
evidence/information that the Athletic Director will be presenting to justify cause for termination. 
 
Michael 
Michael Bailey 
Executive Director 
UConn‐AAUP 
860‐487‐0450 
 
From: <Bannister>, Kelly <kelly.bannister@uconn.edu> 
Date: Wednesday, March 14, 2018 at 4:21 PM 
To: Michael Bailey <michaelbailey@uconnaaup.org> 
Subject: RE: Hearing request 
 
Michael, 
  
We are available for the hearing on Thursday, March 22. Please let me know what time(s) on this date you are available.  
  
Thanks, 
Kelly 
  
From: Michael Bailey [mailto:MichaelBailey@uconnaaup.org]  
Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2018 10:01 AM 
To: Bannister, Kelly <kelly.bannister@uconn.edu>; Benedict, David <david.benedict@uconn.edu> 
Cc: Ollie, Kevin <kevin.ollie@uconn.edu>; Rubin, Rachel <rachel.rubin@uconn.edu>; Gelston, Nicole 
<nicole.gelston@uconn.edu>; Brian Doyle <briandoyle@fdclawoffice.com>; Ricky Lefft <ricky.lefft@leclairryan.com>; 
Barbara Kratochvil <BarbaraK@uconnaaup.org> 
Subject: Re: Hearing request 
  
Ms. Bannister, 
 
Unfortunately, neither date you provided, March 15th nor 16th, are available for a hearing for Coach Ollie.
Please provide alternate dates during the week of March 19th. 
 
In order for Coach Ollie to provide a thorough response at this hearing, I am requesting all
information/evidence the administration will be presenting at the hearing. Specifically, any and all
information/evidence that supports their claim of violations of NCAA bylaws and behaviors that violate

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Coach Ollie’s Employment Contract and AAUP contract, as outlined in the Athletic Director’s letter dated
March 10 2018, including: 
 
Failure to promote compliance; 
Failure to timely report instances of non‐compliance; 
Intentional participation in an impermissible on‐campus activity with a prospective student‐athlete during 
an official visit; 
Intentional facilitation of a prohibited contact between a prospective student‐athlete and a representative 
of the institutions athletic interests for recruiting purposes. 
 
Thank you. 
 
Michael 
  
From: "Bannister, Kelly" <kelly.bannister@uconn.edu> 
Date: Monday, March 12, 2018 5:26 PM 
To: Michael Bailey <michaelbailey@uconnaaup.org>, "Benedict, David" <david.benedict@uconn.edu> 
Cc: "Ollie, Kevin" <kevin.ollie@uconn.edu>, "Rubin, Rachel" <rachel.rubin@uconn.edu>, "Gelston, Nicole" 
<nicole.gelston@uconn.edu>, Brian Doyle <briandoyle@fdclawoffice.com>, Ricky Lefft <ricky.lefft@leclairryan.com>, 
Barbara Kratochvil <BarbaraK@uconnaaup.org> 
Subject: RE: Hearing request 
  
Michael, 
  
Please allow this email to confirm receipt of your below request for a hearing before the Director of Athletics. 
We are available for such meeting at any time on Thursday, March 15 or Friday, March 16. Kindly let me know 
at what time(s) on those dates you and Mr. Ollie are available. 
  
Thanks, 
Kelly 
  
  
Kelly L. Bannister 
Associate Director of Labor Relations and Attorney 
  
Office of Faculty & Staff Labor Relations 
University of Connecticut 
9 Walters Avenue, Unit 5075 
Storrs, Connecticut 06269‐5075 
Tel: (860) 486‐2585 (direct) 
Tel: (860) 486‐5684 (main) 
Fax: (860) 486‐3390 
kelly.bannister@uconn.edu 
  
www.lr.uconn.edu 
  
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From: Michael Bailey [mailto:MichaelBailey@uconnaaup.org]  
Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2018 3:24 PM 
To: Benedict, David <david.benedict@uconn.edu> 
Cc: Ollie, Kevin <kevin.ollie@uconn.edu>; Rubin, Rachel <rachel.rubin@uconn.edu>; Gelston, Nicole 
<nicole.gelston@uconn.edu>; Bannister, Kelly <kelly.bannister@uconn.edu>; Brian Doyle 
<briandoyle@fdclawoffice.com>; Ricky Lefft <ricky.lefft@leclairryan.com>; Barbara Kratochvil 
<BarbaraK@uconnaaup.org> 
Subject: Hearing request 
  
March 10, 2018 
  
David Benedict 
Athletic Director 
University of Connecticut 
  
Dear David, 
  
In response to you letter to Kevin Ollie, Men’s Head Basketball Coach, dated March 10, 2018, and in 
accordance with Article 37.12.B.ii of the collective bargaining agreement, UConn‐AAUP, on behalf of Kevin 
Ollie, requests a hearing before the Director of Athletics in order to respond to any evidence the Director has 
in his decision to terminate Mr. Ollie as Men’s Head Basketball Coach.  
  
Please move to schedule a hearing within the fifteen‐day window as indicated in the collective bargaining 
agreement. 
  
Sincerely, 
  
  
Michael Bailey 
Executive Director 
  
  
Cc:  Kevin Ollie, Men’s Head Basketball Coach 
       Rachel Rubin, Chief of Staff to the President 
       Nicole Fournier Gelston, Interim General Counsel 
       Kelly Bannister, Office of Faculty and Staff Labor Relations 
       Brian Doyle, Attorney, Ferguson and Doyle 
       Ricky Lefft, Attorney, LeClairRyan 

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Philippi, Megan

From: Bannister, Kelly


Sent: Friday, March 16, 2018 4:14 PM
To: Michael Bailey
Cc: Brian Doyle; Barbara Kratochvil
Subject: RE: Hearing request

Michael, 
 
Please allow this email to confirm that we will hold the hearing on Thursday, March 22, 2018, beginning at 9:30am, in 
the garden level conference room at Gulley Hall. 
 
You previously mentioned that Coach Ollie’s attorney may also be present for the hearing. In addition to myself and 
David Benedict, also present for the University will be attorney Henry Gimenez. 
 
Finally, I expect that we will provide a response to your information request tomorrow. 
 
Thanks, 
Kelly  
 
From: Michael Bailey [mailto:MichaelBailey@uconnaaup.org]
Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2018 4:12 PM
To: Bannister, Kelly
Cc: Brian Doyle; Barbara Kratochvil
Subject: Re: Hearing request
 
Kelly, 
 
We are available on this date as well. Probably best to start in the morning. Would you prefer 9:30 or 10:00 AM?  
 
I must also reiterate the importance of preparing for this meeting and again request, in a timely fashion, all 
evidence/information that the Athletic Director will be presenting to justify cause for termination. 
 
Michael 
Michael Bailey 
Executive Director 
UConn‐AAUP 
860‐487‐0450 
 
From: <Bannister>, Kelly <kelly.bannister@uconn.edu> 
Date: Wednesday, March 14, 2018 at 4:21 PM 
To: Michael Bailey <michaelbailey@uconnaaup.org> 
Subject: RE: Hearing request 
 
Michael, 
  
We are available for the hearing on Thursday, March 22. Please let me know what time(s) on this date you are available.  
  
Thanks, 
Kelly 
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From: Michael Bailey [mailto:MichaelBailey@uconnaaup.org]  
Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2018 10:01 AM 
To: Bannister, Kelly <kelly.bannister@uconn.edu>; Benedict, David <david.benedict@uconn.edu> 
Cc: Ollie, Kevin <kevin.ollie@uconn.edu>; Rubin, Rachel <rachel.rubin@uconn.edu>; Gelston, Nicole 
<nicole.gelston@uconn.edu>; Brian Doyle <briandoyle@fdclawoffice.com>; Ricky Lefft <ricky.lefft@leclairryan.com>; 
Barbara Kratochvil <BarbaraK@uconnaaup.org> 
Subject: Re: Hearing request 
  
Ms. Bannister, 
 
Unfortunately, neither date you provided, March 15th nor 16th, are available for a hearing for Coach Ollie.
Please provide alternate dates during the week of March 19th. 
 
In order for Coach Ollie to provide a thorough response at this hearing, I am requesting all
information/evidence the administration will be presenting at the hearing. Specifically, any and all
information/evidence that supports their claim of violations of NCAA bylaws and behaviors that violate
Coach Ollie’s Employment Contract and AAUP contract, as outlined in the Athletic Director’s letter dated
March 10 2018, including: 
 
Failure to promote compliance; 
Failure to timely report instances of non‐compliance; 
Intentional participation in an impermissible on‐campus activity with a prospective student‐athlete during 
an official visit; 
Intentional facilitation of a prohibited contact between a prospective student‐athlete and a representative 
of the institutions athletic interests for recruiting purposes. 
 
Thank you. 
 
Michael 
  
From: "Bannister, Kelly" <kelly.bannister@uconn.edu> 
Date: Monday, March 12, 2018 5:26 PM 
To: Michael Bailey <michaelbailey@uconnaaup.org>, "Benedict, David" <david.benedict@uconn.edu> 
Cc: "Ollie, Kevin" <kevin.ollie@uconn.edu>, "Rubin, Rachel" <rachel.rubin@uconn.edu>, "Gelston, Nicole" 
<nicole.gelston@uconn.edu>, Brian Doyle <briandoyle@fdclawoffice.com>, Ricky Lefft <ricky.lefft@leclairryan.com>, 
Barbara Kratochvil <BarbaraK@uconnaaup.org> 
Subject: RE: Hearing request 
  
Michael, 
  
Please allow this email to confirm receipt of your below request for a hearing before the Director of Athletics. 
We are available for such meeting at any time on Thursday, March 15 or Friday, March 16. Kindly let me know 
at what time(s) on those dates you and Mr. Ollie are available. 
  
Thanks, 
Kelly 
  
  
Kelly L. Bannister 
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Associate Director of Labor Relations and Attorney 
  
Office of Faculty & Staff Labor Relations 
University of Connecticut 
9 Walters Avenue, Unit 5075 
Storrs, Connecticut 06269‐5075 
Tel: (860) 486‐2585 (direct) 
Tel: (860) 486‐5684 (main) 
Fax: (860) 486‐3390 
kelly.bannister@uconn.edu 
  
www.lr.uconn.edu 
  
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From: Michael Bailey [mailto:MichaelBailey@uconnaaup.org]  
Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2018 3:24 PM 
To: Benedict, David <david.benedict@uconn.edu> 
Cc: Ollie, Kevin <kevin.ollie@uconn.edu>; Rubin, Rachel <rachel.rubin@uconn.edu>; Gelston, Nicole 
<nicole.gelston@uconn.edu>; Bannister, Kelly <kelly.bannister@uconn.edu>; Brian Doyle 
<briandoyle@fdclawoffice.com>; Ricky Lefft <ricky.lefft@leclairryan.com>; Barbara Kratochvil 
<BarbaraK@uconnaaup.org> 
Subject: Hearing request 
  
March 10, 2018 
  
David Benedict 
Athletic Director 
University of Connecticut 
  
Dear David, 
  
In response to you letter to Kevin Ollie, Men’s Head Basketball Coach, dated March 10, 2018, and in 
accordance with Article 37.12.B.ii of the collective bargaining agreement, UConn‐AAUP, on behalf of Kevin 
Ollie, requests a hearing before the Director of Athletics in order to respond to any evidence the Director has 
in his decision to terminate Mr. Ollie as Men’s Head Basketball Coach.  
  
Please move to schedule a hearing within the fifteen‐day window as indicated in the collective bargaining 
agreement. 
  
Sincerely, 
  
  
Michael Bailey 
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Executive Director 
  
  
Cc:  Kevin Ollie, Men’s Head Basketball Coach 
       Rachel Rubin, Chief of Staff to the President 
       Nicole Fournier Gelston, Interim General Counsel 
       Kelly Bannister, Office of Faculty and Staff Labor Relations 
       Brian Doyle, Attorney, Ferguson and Doyle 
       Ricky Lefft, Attorney, LeClairRyan 

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Philippi, Megan

From: Michael Bailey <MichaelBailey@uconnaaup.org>


Sent: Friday, March 16, 2018 5:14 PM
To: Bannister, Kelly
Cc: Brian Doyle; Barbara Kratochvil
Subject: Re: Hearing request

Okay, thank you. 
 
Michael 

Michael Bailey 
UConn‐AAUP 
 
 
On Mar 16, 2018, at 4:13 PM, Bannister, Kelly <kelly.bannister@uconn.edu> wrote: 

Michael, 
  
Please allow this email to confirm that we will hold the hearing on Thursday, March 22, 2018, beginning 
at 9:30am, in the garden level conference room at Gulley Hall. 
  
You previously mentioned that Coach Ollie’s attorney may also be present for the hearing. In addition to 
myself and David Benedict, also present for the University will be attorney Henry Gimenez. 
  
Finally, I expect that we will provide a response to your information request tomorrow. 
  
Thanks, 
Kelly  
  
From: Michael Bailey [mailto:MichaelBailey@uconnaaup.org]
Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2018 4:12 PM
To: Bannister, Kelly
Cc: Brian Doyle; Barbara Kratochvil
Subject: Re: Hearing request 
  
Kelly, 
  
We are available on this date as well. Probably best to start in the morning. Would you prefer 9:30 or 10:00 
AM?  
  
I must also reiterate the importance of preparing for this meeting and again request, in a timely fashion, all 
evidence/information that the Athletic Director will be presenting to justify cause for termination. 
  
Michael 
Michael Bailey 
Executive Director 
UConn‐AAUP 
860‐487‐0450 

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From: <Bannister>, Kelly <kelly.bannister@uconn.edu> 
Date: Wednesday, March 14, 2018 at 4:21 PM 
To: Michael Bailey <michaelbailey@uconnaaup.org> 
Subject: RE: Hearing request 
  
Michael, 
  
We are available for the hearing on Thursday, March 22. Please let me know what time(s) on this date 
you are available.  
  
Thanks, 
Kelly 
  
From: Michael Bailey [mailto:MichaelBailey@uconnaaup.org]  
Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2018 10:01 AM 
To: Bannister, Kelly <kelly.bannister@uconn.edu>; Benedict, David <david.benedict@uconn.edu> 
Cc: Ollie, Kevin <kevin.ollie@uconn.edu>; Rubin, Rachel <rachel.rubin@uconn.edu>; Gelston, Nicole 
<nicole.gelston@uconn.edu>; Brian Doyle <briandoyle@fdclawoffice.com>; Ricky Lefft 
<ricky.lefft@leclairryan.com>; Barbara Kratochvil <BarbaraK@uconnaaup.org> 
Subject: Re: Hearing request 
  
Ms. Bannister, 
 
Unfortunately, neither date you provided, March 15th nor 16th, are available for a hearing
for Coach Ollie. Please provide alternate dates during the week of March 19th. 
 
In order for Coach Ollie to provide a thorough response at this hearing, I am requesting all
information/evidence the administration will be presenting at the hearing. Specifically, any
and all information/evidence that supports their claim of violations of NCAA bylaws and
behaviors that violate Coach Ollie’s Employment Contract and AAUP contract, as outlined in
the Athletic Director’s letter dated March 10 2018, including: 
 
Failure to promote compliance; 
Failure to timely report instances of non‐compliance; 
Intentional participation in an impermissible on‐campus activity with a prospective student‐
athlete during an official visit; 
Intentional facilitation of a prohibited contact between a prospective student‐athlete and a 
representative of the institutions athletic interests for recruiting purposes. 
 
Thank you. 
 
Michael 
  
From: "Bannister, Kelly" <kelly.bannister@uconn.edu> 
Date: Monday, March 12, 2018 5:26 PM 
To: Michael Bailey <michaelbailey@uconnaaup.org>, "Benedict, David" <david.benedict@uconn.edu> 
Cc: "Ollie, Kevin" <kevin.ollie@uconn.edu>, "Rubin, Rachel" <rachel.rubin@uconn.edu>, "Gelston, 
Nicole" <nicole.gelston@uconn.edu>, Brian Doyle <briandoyle@fdclawoffice.com>, Ricky Lefft 

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<ricky.lefft@leclairryan.com>, Barbara Kratochvil <BarbaraK@uconnaaup.org> 
Subject: RE: Hearing request 
  
Michael, 
  
Please allow this email to confirm receipt of your below request for a hearing before the 
Director of Athletics. We are available for such meeting at any time on Thursday, March 15 or 
Friday, March 16. Kindly let me know at what time(s) on those dates you and Mr. Ollie are 
available. 
  
Thanks, 
Kelly 
  
  
Kelly L. Bannister 
Associate Director of Labor Relations and Attorney 
  
Office of Faculty & Staff Labor Relations 
University of Connecticut 
9 Walters Avenue, Unit 5075 
Storrs, Connecticut 06269‐5075 
Tel: (860) 486‐2585 (direct) 
Tel: (860) 486‐5684 (main) 
Fax: (860) 486‐3390 
kelly.bannister@uconn.edu 
  
www.lr.uconn.edu 
  
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From: Michael Bailey [mailto:MichaelBailey@uconnaaup.org]  
Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2018 3:24 PM 
To: Benedict, David <david.benedict@uconn.edu> 
Cc: Ollie, Kevin <kevin.ollie@uconn.edu>; Rubin, Rachel <rachel.rubin@uconn.edu>; Gelston, Nicole 
<nicole.gelston@uconn.edu>; Bannister, Kelly <kelly.bannister@uconn.edu>; Brian Doyle 
<briandoyle@fdclawoffice.com>; Ricky Lefft <ricky.lefft@leclairryan.com>; Barbara Kratochvil 
<BarbaraK@uconnaaup.org> 
Subject: Hearing request 
  
March 10, 2018 
  
David Benedict 
Athletic Director 
University of Connecticut 
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Dear David, 
  
In response to you letter to Kevin Ollie, Men’s Head Basketball Coach, dated March 10, 2018, 
and in accordance with Article 37.12.B.ii of the collective bargaining agreement, UConn‐AAUP, 
on behalf of Kevin Ollie, requests a hearing before the Director of Athletics in order to respond 
to any evidence the Director has in his decision to terminate Mr. Ollie as Men’s Head Basketball 
Coach.  
  
Please move to schedule a hearing within the fifteen‐day window as indicated in the collective 
bargaining agreement. 
  
Sincerely, 
  
  
Michael Bailey 
Executive Director 
  
  
Cc:  Kevin Ollie, Men’s Head Basketball Coach 
       Rachel Rubin, Chief of Staff to the President 
       Nicole Fournier Gelston, Interim General Counsel 
       Kelly Bannister, Office of Faculty and Staff Labor Relations 
       Brian Doyle, Attorney, Ferguson and Doyle 
       Ricky Lefft, Attorney, LeClairRyan 

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Philippi, Megan

From: Michael Bailey <MichaelBailey@uconnaaup.org>


Sent: Monday, March 19, 2018 12:56 PM
To: Bannister, Kelly
Cc: Barbara Kratochvil
Subject: Coach Ollie's Office

Kelly, 
 
Coach Ollie has indicated to me that he has been asked to remove his personal item from his office located in the Werth 
Family Basketball Center. This is highly unusual and has never been asked of another bargaining unit member who is in the 
process of responding to administrative disciplinary actions. Please discontinue that action. 
 
I would also like to request all annual evaluations of Coach Ollie by his supervisor for the past 5 years. 
 
Thank you. 
 
Michael 
Michael Bailey 
Executive Director 
UConn‐AAUP 
860‐487‐0450 

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Philippi, Megan

From: Bannister, Kelly


Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2018 11:28 AM
To: Michael Bailey
Cc: Barbara Kratochvil
Subject: RE: Coach Ollie's Office

Michael, 
 
I acknowledge receipt of the request. 
 
Thanks, 
Kelly 
 
Kelly L. Bannister, Esq. 
Associate Director and Attorney 
 
Office of Faculty & Staff Labor Relations 
University of Connecticut 
9 Walters Avenue, Unit 5075 
Storrs, Connecticut 06269‐5075 
Tel: (860) 486‐2585 (direct) 
Tel: (860) 486‐5684 (main) 
Fax: (860) 486‐3390 
kelly.bannister@uconn.edu 
 
www.lr.uconn.edu 
 
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From: Michael Bailey [mailto:MichaelBailey@uconnaaup.org]  
Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2018 11:27 AM 
To: Bannister, Kelly <kelly.bannister@uconn.edu> 
Cc: Barbara Kratochvil <BarbaraK@uconnaaup.org> 
Subject: Re: Coach Ollie's Office 

Kelly, 
 
Will you please acknowledge that you have received the information request for the evaluations of Coach Kevin Ollie for the 
past 5 years. 
 
Michael 
Michael Bailey 

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Executive Director 
UConn‐AAUP 
860‐487‐0450 
 
From: Michael Bailey <michaelbailey@uconnaaup.org> 
Date: Monday, March 19, 2018 at 12:55 PM 
To: "Bannister, Kelly" <kelly.bannister@uconn.edu> 
Cc: Barbara Kratochvil <BarbaraK@uconnaaup.org> 
Subject: Coach Ollie's Office 
 
Kelly, 
 
Coach Ollie has indicated to me that he has been asked to remove his personal item from his office located in the Werth 
Family Basketball Center. This is highly unusual and has never been asked of another bargaining unit member who is in the 
process of responding to administrative disciplinary actions. Please discontinue that action. 
 
I would also like to request all annual evaluations of Coach Ollie by his supervisor for the past 5 years. 
 
Thank you. 
 
Michael 
Michael Bailey 
Executive Director 
UConn‐AAUP 
860‐487‐0450 

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Philippi, Megan

From: Michael Bailey <MichaelBailey@uconnaaup.org>


Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2018 11:29 AM
To: Bannister, Kelly
Subject: Re: Coach Ollie's Office

Thank you. 
 
Michael 
Michael Bailey 
Executive Director 
UConn‐AAUP 
860‐487‐0450 
 
From: <Bannister>, Kelly <kelly.bannister@uconn.edu> 
Date: Tuesday, March 20, 2018 at 11:28 AM 
To: Michael Bailey <michaelbailey@uconnaaup.org> 
Cc: Barbara Kratochvil <BarbaraK@uconnaaup.org> 
Subject: RE: Coach Ollie's Office 
 
Michael,
 
I acknowledge receipt of the request.
 
Thanks,
Kelly
 
Kelly L. Bannister, Esq.
Associate Director and Attorney
 
Office of Faculty & Staff Labor Relations
University of Connecticut
9 Walters Avenue, Unit 5075
Storrs, Connecticut 06269‐5075
Tel: (860) 486‐2585 (direct)
Tel: (860) 486‐5684 (main)
Fax: (860) 486‐3390
kelly.bannister@uconn.edu
 
www.lr.uconn.edu
 
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From: Michael Bailey [mailto:MichaelBailey@uconnaaup.org]  
Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2018 11:27 AM 
To: Bannister, Kelly <kelly.bannister@uconn.edu> 
Cc: Barbara Kratochvil <BarbaraK@uconnaaup.org> 
Subject: Re: Coach Ollie's Office

Kelly,
 
Will you please acknowledge that you have received the information request for the evaluations of Coach Kevin Ollie for the 
past 5 years.
 
Michael
Michael Bailey
Executive Director
UConn‐AAUP
860‐487‐0450
 
From: Michael Bailey <michaelbailey@uconnaaup.org> 
Date: Monday, March 19, 2018 at 12:55 PM 
To: "Bannister, Kelly" <kelly.bannister@uconn.edu> 
Cc: Barbara Kratochvil <BarbaraK@uconnaaup.org> 
Subject: Coach Ollie's Office
 
Kelly,
 
Coach Ollie has indicated to me that he has been asked to remove his personal item from his office located in the Werth 
Family Basketball Center. This is highly unusual and has never been asked of another bargaining unit member who is in the 
process of responding to administrative disciplinary actions. Please discontinue that action.
 
I would also like to request all annual evaluations of Coach Ollie by his supervisor for the past 5 years.
 
Thank you.
 
Michael
Michael Bailey
Executive Director
UConn‐AAUP
860‐487‐0450

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Philippi, Megan

From: Bannister, Kelly


Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2018 6:55 PM
To: Michael Bailey
Subject: RE: Coach Ollie's Office

Michael, 
 
David Benedict has communicated to Coach Ollie his decision to initiate the process to terminate his employment for 
just cause. Regardless of whether or not it is unusual to request that an employee remove personal belongings from an 
office pending the administrative disciplinary processes, it is the University’s prerogative to do so. I expect that you will 
facilitate Coach Ollie’s prompt compliance with this request.  
 
In regards to your request for Coach Ollie’s evaluations for the past 5 years, there are no written evaluations to provide. 
It is my understanding, however, that in accordance with the terms of Coach Ollie’s employment contract, David 
Benedict has met with Coach Ollie to discuss his performance after the conclusion of the basketball season. 
 
Thanks, 
Kelly 
 
 
Kelly L. Bannister, Esq. 
Associate Director and Attorney 
 
Office of Faculty & Staff Labor Relations 
University of Connecticut 
9 Walters Avenue, Unit 5075 
Storrs, Connecticut 06269‐5075 
Tel: (860) 486‐2585 (direct) 
Tel: (860) 486‐5684 (main) 
Fax: (860) 486‐3390 
kelly.bannister@uconn.edu 
 
www.lr.uconn.edu 
 
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From: Michael Bailey [mailto:MichaelBailey@uconnaaup.org]  
Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2018 11:29 AM 
To: Bannister, Kelly <kelly.bannister@uconn.edu> 
Subject: Re: Coach Ollie's Office 

Thank you. 
1
 
Michael 
Michael Bailey 
Executive Director 
UConn‐AAUP 
860‐487‐0450 
 
From: <Bannister>, Kelly <kelly.bannister@uconn.edu> 
Date: Tuesday, March 20, 2018 at 11:28 AM 
To: Michael Bailey <michaelbailey@uconnaaup.org> 
Cc: Barbara Kratochvil <BarbaraK@uconnaaup.org> 
Subject: RE: Coach Ollie's Office 
 
Michael,
 
I acknowledge receipt of the request.
 
Thanks,
Kelly
 
Kelly L. Bannister, Esq.
Associate Director and Attorney
 
Office of Faculty & Staff Labor Relations
University of Connecticut
9 Walters Avenue, Unit 5075
Storrs, Connecticut 06269‐5075
Tel: (860) 486‐2585 (direct)
Tel: (860) 486‐5684 (main)
Fax: (860) 486‐3390
kelly.bannister@uconn.edu
 
www.lr.uconn.edu
 
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From: Michael Bailey [mailto:MichaelBailey@uconnaaup.org]  
Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2018 11:27 AM 
To: Bannister, Kelly <kelly.bannister@uconn.edu> 
Cc: Barbara Kratochvil <BarbaraK@uconnaaup.org> 
Subject: Re: Coach Ollie's Office

Kelly,
 
Will you please acknowledge that you have received the information request for the evaluations of Coach Kevin Ollie for the 
past 5 years.

2
 
Michael
Michael Bailey
Executive Director
UConn‐AAUP
860‐487‐0450
 
From: Michael Bailey <michaelbailey@uconnaaup.org> 
Date: Monday, March 19, 2018 at 12:55 PM 
To: "Bannister, Kelly" <kelly.bannister@uconn.edu> 
Cc: Barbara Kratochvil <BarbaraK@uconnaaup.org> 
Subject: Coach Ollie's Office
 
Kelly,
 
Coach Ollie has indicated to me that he has been asked to remove his personal item from his office located in the Werth 
Family Basketball Center. This is highly unusual and has never been asked of another bargaining unit member who is in the 
process of responding to administrative disciplinary actions. Please discontinue that action.
 
I would also like to request all annual evaluations of Coach Ollie by his supervisor for the past 5 years.
 
Thank you.
 
Michael
Michael Bailey
Executive Director
UConn‐AAUP
860‐487‐0450

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Philippi, Megan

From: Bannister, Kelly


Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2018 9:58 AM
To: Michael Bailey
Cc: Brian Doyle; Benedict, David
Subject: RE: Kevin Ollie

Michael, 
 
The University reluctantly agrees to a brief extension of the timeline to hold the Article 37.12(B)(ii) hearing with David 
Benedict. We are available to reschedule the hearing during the morning of March 27, 2018. Please confirm your 
availability on this date. 
 
Thanks, 
Kelly 
 
Kelly L. Bannister, Esq. 
Associate Director and Attorney 
 
Office of Faculty & Staff Labor Relations 
University of Connecticut 
9 Walters Avenue, Unit 5075 
Storrs, Connecticut 06269‐5075 
Tel: (860) 486‐2585 (direct) 
Tel: (860) 486‐5684 (main) 
Fax: (860) 486‐3390 
kelly.bannister@uconn.edu 
 
www.lr.uconn.edu 
 
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From: Michael Bailey [mailto:MichaelBailey@uconnaaup.org]  
Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2018 3:25 PM 
To: Bannister, Kelly <kelly.bannister@uconn.edu> 
Cc: Brian Doyle <briandoyle@fdclawoffice.com>; Benedict, David <david.benedict@uconn.edu> 
Subject: Re: Kevin Ollie 
 
Kelly, 
 
I am hereby requesting an extension to the timeline for the Article 37.12.B.ii hearing before Athletic Director David Benedict in 
the Dismissal for Just Cause procedures of Men’s Head Basketball Coach Kevin Ollie. The reams of documents that were 

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forwarded on Sunday evening, as well as the latest documents received today, and the unfilled request for annual evaluations 
of Coach Ollie, have led us to make this request. Please provide alternative dates for the next two weeks. 
 
Thank you. 
 
Michael   
Michael Bailey 
Executive Director 
UConn‐AAUP 
860‐487‐0450 
 
From: <Bannister>, Kelly <kelly.bannister@uconn.edu> 
Date: Tuesday, March 20, 2018 at 2:51 PM 
To: Michael Bailey <michaelbailey@uconnaaup.org> 
Cc: Brian Doyle <briandoyle@fdclawoffice.com>, "Benedict, David" <david.benedict@uconn.edu> 
Subject: RE: Kevin Ollie 
 
Michael, 
  
Please find attached additional responsive materials. 
  
Thanks, 
Kelly 
  
Kelly L. Bannister, Esq. 
Associate Director and Attorney 
  
Office of Faculty & Staff Labor Relations 
University of Connecticut 
9 Walters Avenue, Unit 5075 
Storrs, Connecticut 06269‐5075 
Tel: (860) 486‐2585 (direct) 
Tel: (860) 486‐5684 (main) 
Fax: (860) 486‐3390 
kelly.bannister@uconn.edu 
  
www.lr.uconn.edu 
  
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From: Bannister, Kelly  
Sent: Sunday, March 18, 2018 7:18 PM 
To: Michael Bailey (MichaelBailey@uconnaaup.org) <MichaelBailey@uconnaaup.org> 
Cc: Brian Doyle (briandoyle@fdclawoffice.com) <briandoyle@fdclawoffice.com>; Benedict, David 
<david.benedict@uconn.edu> 
Subject: Kevin Ollie 

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Michael, 
  
In response to your March 13, 2018 request for information, the University is producing the attached materials used to 
determine that there exists just cause for the termination of Kevin Ollie as set forth in David Benedict’s March 10, 2018 
letter.  
  
Please be advised that names and other personally identifiable information of students has been redacted in accordance 
with FERPA. For consistency and privacy, names and personally identifiable information of prospective students has 
been similarly redacted.  
  
Thanks,  
Kelly 
  
Kelly L. Bannister, Esq. 
Associate Director and Attorney 
  
Office of Faculty & Staff Labor Relations 
University of Connecticut 
9 Walters Avenue, Unit 5075 
Storrs, Connecticut 06269‐5075 
Tel: (860) 486‐2585 (direct) 
Tel: (860) 486‐5684 (main) 
Fax: (860) 486‐3390 
kelly.bannister@uconn.edu 
  
www.lr.uconn.edu 
  
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Philippi, Megan

From: Bannister, Kelly


Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2018 3:04 PM
To: Michael Bailey
Cc: Brian Doyle; Benedict, David
Subject: RE: Kevin Ollie

My typo. Thursday the 5th. 
 
Kelly 
 
From: Michael Bailey [mailto:MichaelBailey@uconnaaup.org]
Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2018 2:58 PM
To: Bannister, Kelly
Cc: Brian Doyle; Benedict, David
Subject: Re: Kevin Ollie
 
Kelly, 
 
April 6th is a Friday. Do you mean Thursday the 5th or Friday the 6th? 
 
Michael 
 
From: "Bannister, Kelly" <kelly.bannister@uconn.edu> 
Date: Wednesday, March 21, 2018 2:50 PM 
To: Michael Bailey <michaelbailey@uconnaaup.org> 
Cc: Brian Doyle <briandoyle@fdclawoffice.com>, "Benedict, David" <david.benedict@uconn.edu> 
Subject: RE: Kevin Ollie 
 
Michael, 
  
We are not available on March 29th. We will need to look to the following week. We suggest during the afternoon on 
Thursday, April 6th. 
  
Thanks, 
Kelly 
  
From: Michael Bailey [mailto:MichaelBailey@uconnaaup.org]
Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2018 12:05 PM
To: Bannister, Kelly
Cc: Brian Doyle; Benedict, David
Subject: Re: Kevin Ollie 
  
Kelly, 
  
March 27th is unavailable for us. Is the 29th an options? We are free that date. 
  
Michael 
  

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From: "Bannister, Kelly" <kelly.bannister@uconn.edu> 
Date: Wednesday, March 21, 2018 9:58 AM 
To: Michael Bailey <michaelbailey@uconnaaup.org> 
Cc: Brian Doyle <briandoyle@fdclawoffice.com>, "Benedict, David" <david.benedict@uconn.edu> 
Subject: RE: Kevin Ollie 
  
Michael, 
 
The University reluctantly agrees to a brief extension of the timeline to hold the Article 37.12(B)(ii) hearing with David 
Benedict. We are available to reschedule the hearing during the morning of March 27, 2018. Please confirm your 
availability on this date. 
  
Thanks, 
Kelly 
  
Kelly L. Bannister, Esq. 
Associate Director and Attorney 
  
Office of Faculty & Staff Labor Relations 
University of Connecticut 
9 Walters Avenue, Unit 5075 
Storrs, Connecticut 06269‐5075 
Tel: (860) 486‐2585 (direct) 
Tel: (860) 486‐5684 (main) 
Fax: (860) 486‐3390 
kelly.bannister@uconn.edu 
  
www.lr.uconn.edu 
  
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From: Michael Bailey [mailto:MichaelBailey@uconnaaup.org]  
Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2018 3:25 PM 
To: Bannister, Kelly <kelly.bannister@uconn.edu> 
Cc: Brian Doyle <briandoyle@fdclawoffice.com>; Benedict, David <david.benedict@uconn.edu> 
Subject: Re: Kevin Ollie 
  
Kelly, 
  
I am hereby requesting an extension to the timeline for the Article 37.12.B.ii hearing before Athletic Director David Benedict in 
the Dismissal for Just Cause procedures of Men’s Head Basketball Coach Kevin Ollie. The reams of documents that were 
forwarded on Sunday evening, as well as the latest documents received today, and the unfilled request for annual evaluations 
of Coach Ollie, have led us to make this request. Please provide alternative dates for the next two weeks. 
  
Thank you. 
  

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Michael   
Michael Bailey 
Executive Director 
UConn‐AAUP 
860‐487‐0450 
  
From: <Bannister>, Kelly <kelly.bannister@uconn.edu> 
Date: Tuesday, March 20, 2018 at 2:51 PM 
To: Michael Bailey <michaelbailey@uconnaaup.org> 
Cc: Brian Doyle <briandoyle@fdclawoffice.com>, "Benedict, David" <david.benedict@uconn.edu> 
Subject: RE: Kevin Ollie 
  
Michael, 
  
Please find attached additional responsive materials. 
  
Thanks, 
Kelly 
  
Kelly L. Bannister, Esq. 
Associate Director and Attorney 
  
Office of Faculty & Staff Labor Relations 
University of Connecticut 
9 Walters Avenue, Unit 5075 
Storrs, Connecticut 06269‐5075 
Tel: (860) 486‐2585 (direct) 
Tel: (860) 486‐5684 (main) 
Fax: (860) 486‐3390 
kelly.bannister@uconn.edu 
  
www.lr.uconn.edu 
  
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From: Bannister, Kelly  
Sent: Sunday, March 18, 2018 7:18 PM 
To: Michael Bailey (MichaelBailey@uconnaaup.org) <MichaelBailey@uconnaaup.org> 
Cc: Brian Doyle (briandoyle@fdclawoffice.com) <briandoyle@fdclawoffice.com>; Benedict, David 
<david.benedict@uconn.edu> 
Subject: Kevin Ollie 
  
Michael, 
  

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In response to your March 13, 2018 request for information, the University is producing the attached materials used to 
determine that there exists just cause for the termination of Kevin Ollie as set forth in David Benedict’s March 10, 2018 
letter.  
  
Please be advised that names and other personally identifiable information of students has been redacted in accordance 
with FERPA. For consistency and privacy, names and personally identifiable information of prospective students has 
been similarly redacted.  
  
Thanks,  
Kelly 
  
Kelly L. Bannister, Esq. 
Associate Director and Attorney 
  
Office of Faculty & Staff Labor Relations 
University of Connecticut 
9 Walters Avenue, Unit 5075 
Storrs, Connecticut 06269‐5075 
Tel: (860) 486‐2585 (direct) 
Tel: (860) 486‐5684 (main) 
Fax: (860) 486‐3390 
kelly.bannister@uconn.edu 
  
www.lr.uconn.edu 
  
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Philippi, Megan

From: Michael Bailey <MichaelBailey@uconnaaup.org>


Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2018 8:19 PM
To: Bannister, Kelly
Subject: Re: Coach Ollie's Office

Kelly, 
 
I am working with Kevin to vacate the office. It looks like it will be done by the end of the weekend. Please keep this amongst 
ourselves as we don't need any media at the move. 
 
Thanks. 
 
Michael 
 
From: "Bannister, Kelly" <kelly.bannister@uconn.edu> 
Date: Tuesday, March 20, 2018 6:54 PM 
To: Michael Bailey <michaelbailey@uconnaaup.org> 
Subject: RE: Coach Ollie's Office 
 
Michael,
 
David Benedict has communicated to Coach Ollie his decision to initiate the process to terminate his employment for 
just cause. Regardless of whether or not it is unusual to request that an employee remove personal belongings from an 
office pending the administrative disciplinary processes, it is the University’s prerogative to do so. I expect that you will 
facilitate Coach Ollie’s prompt compliance with this request. 
 
In regards to your request for Coach Ollie’s evaluations for the past 5 years, there are no written evaluations to provide. 
It is my understanding, however, that in accordance with the terms of Coach Ollie’s employment contract, David 
Benedict has met with Coach Ollie to discuss his performance after the conclusion of the basketball season.
 
Thanks,
Kelly
 
 
Kelly L. Bannister, Esq.
Associate Director and Attorney
 
Office of Faculty & Staff Labor Relations
University of Connecticut
9 Walters Avenue, Unit 5075
Storrs, Connecticut 06269‐5075
Tel: (860) 486‐2585 (direct)
Tel: (860) 486‐5684 (main)
Fax: (860) 486‐3390
kelly.bannister@uconn.edu
 
www.lr.uconn.edu
 

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From: Michael Bailey [mailto:MichaelBailey@uconnaaup.org]  
Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2018 11:29 AM 
To: Bannister, Kelly <kelly.bannister@uconn.edu> 
Subject: Re: Coach Ollie's Office

Thank you.
 
Michael
Michael Bailey
Executive Director
UConn‐AAUP
860‐487‐0450
 
From: <Bannister>, Kelly <kelly.bannister@uconn.edu> 
Date: Tuesday, March 20, 2018 at 11:28 AM 
To: Michael Bailey <michaelbailey@uconnaaup.org> 
Cc: Barbara Kratochvil <BarbaraK@uconnaaup.org> 
Subject: RE: Coach Ollie's Office
 
Michael,
 
I acknowledge receipt of the request.
 
Thanks,
Kelly
 
Kelly L. Bannister, Esq.
Associate Director and Attorney
 
Office of Faculty & Staff Labor Relations
University of Connecticut
9 Walters Avenue, Unit 5075
Storrs, Connecticut 06269‐5075
Tel: (860) 486‐2585 (direct)
Tel: (860) 486‐5684 (main)
Fax: (860) 486‐3390
kelly.bannister@uconn.edu
 
www.lr.uconn.edu
 
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From: Michael Bailey [mailto:MichaelBailey@uconnaaup.org]  
Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2018 11:27 AM 
To: Bannister, Kelly <kelly.bannister@uconn.edu> 
Cc: Barbara Kratochvil <BarbaraK@uconnaaup.org> 
Subject: Re: Coach Ollie's Office

Kelly,
 
Will you please acknowledge that you have received the information request for the evaluations of Coach Kevin Ollie for the 
past 5 years.
 
Michael
Michael Bailey
Executive Director
UConn‐AAUP
860‐487‐0450
 
From: Michael Bailey <michaelbailey@uconnaaup.org> 
Date: Monday, March 19, 2018 at 12:55 PM 
To: "Bannister, Kelly" <kelly.bannister@uconn.edu> 
Cc: Barbara Kratochvil <BarbaraK@uconnaaup.org> 
Subject: Coach Ollie's Office
 
Kelly,
 
Coach Ollie has indicated to me that he has been asked to remove his personal item from his office located in the Werth 
Family Basketball Center. This is highly unusual and has never been asked of another bargaining unit member who is in the 
process of responding to administrative disciplinary actions. Please discontinue that action.
 
I would also like to request all annual evaluations of Coach Ollie by his supervisor for the past 5 years.
 
Thank you.
 
Michael
Michael Bailey
Executive Director
UConn‐AAUP
860‐487‐0450

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Philippi, Megan

From: Gelston, Nicole


Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2018 8:23 AM
To: Lefft, Joseph R. (Ricky)
Cc: 'michaelbailey@uconnaaup.org'; 'briandoyle@fdclawoffice.com'; Bannister, Kelly
Subject: RE: Coach Kevin Ollie Grivance Process

Dear Mr. Lefft‐ 
 
As I explained during our phone call, the contract terms and procedural rights that govern Mr. Ollie’s employment are 
not what you assert below.     
 
Mr. Ollie’s employment agreement makes clear that he has no claim to tenure or other property right in his continued 
employment.  Article 10 unequivocally gives the university the right to terminate Mr. Ollie’s employment at any time, 
with or without cause.   
 
In the event the termination decision is based on just cause as defined in 10.1, as was the decision concerning Mr. Ollie’s 
termination, then he is afforded the ability to contest the grounds for just cause pursuant to Article 37.12 of the 
collective bargaining agreement.  The right to contest the grounds for dismissal does not amount to a property interest 
in his continued employment.  Rather, if Mr. Ollie is successful in proving there was no just cause for his termination, 
then he will have been terminated for “any reason other than just cause as defined in Article 10.1” and entitled to the 
recourse provided within Article 10.2 of his employment agreement. The grievance and arbitration process cannot 
overturn the termination decision. 
 
Nor does Article 37.13 of the collective bargaining agreement create any property right in continued employment.  That 
provision addresses only continuation of salary during the grievance and arbitration process.  Under 37.13.A, the 
University has continued to pay Mr. Ollie’s salary and will do so until the conclusion of the processes afforded him in 
37.12.B.ii and iii, assuming he intends to avail himself of those processes.  In other words, salary will continue at least 
until the President makes a final decision on whether the termination was appropriately grounded on just cause.  If the 
AAUP and Mr. Ollie were to appeal to arbitration from an adverse decision of the President, then 37.13.B would further 
entitle Mr. Ollie to continued payment of salary until four months from March 10, 2018, the date when the termination 
was initiated. 
 
As you are aware, Article 37.12.ii requires that the initial hearing “shall be held within fifteen (15) calendar days of the 
employee’s request.”  The university offered to hold the hearing on March 15 or 16.  That offer was declined by Mr. 
Ollie’s representatives.  The parties then agreed to schedule the hearing on March 22, 2018.  Again Mr. Ollie’s 
representatives requested a postponement.  The University then proposed March 27, 2018.  That date was rejected by 
Mr. Ollie’s representatives yesterday, without offering any reason.  
 
These repeated requests to postpone the proceedings, viewed in light of the argument you have presented below, 
suggest that these actions may be motivated by a desire to prolong salary continuation or to impede the university’s 
ability to proceed with a new hire.   Accordingly, the university will be reluctant to entertain further requests to 
postpone the hearing that are not supported by an adequate reason.  Please advise me by 5:00 p.m. whether Mr. Ollie 
wishes to proceed with the hearing under 37.12.ii or has decided to forfeit his right to such a hearing. 
 
Sincerely, 
 
Nicole 
 

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Nicole Fournier Gelston, Esq. 
Interim General Counsel 
Office of the General Counsel  
343 Mansfield Road, Unit 1177 
Storrs, CT 06269‐1177                                                                  
Phone # 860‐486‐5796 
Fax # 860‐486‐4369 
Email: nicole.gelston@uconn.edu 
Web: generalcounsel.uconn.edu 
 

 
 

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From: Lefft, Joseph R. (Ricky) [mailto:Ricky.Lefft@leclairryan.com]  
Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2018 2:51 PM 
To: Gelston, Nicole <nicole.gelston@uconn.edu> 
Cc: 'michaelbailey@uconnaaup.org' <michaelbailey@uconnaaup.org>; 'briandoyle@fdclawoffice.com' 
<briandoyle@fdclawoffice.com>; 'kollie12@gmail.com' <kollie12@gmail.com> 
Subject: Coach Kevin Ollie Grivance Process 
 
Ms. Gelston: 
 
 
Based upon news reports, many of which are attributed to the University of Connecticut leadership, it appears to
be the University’s intent to name a Men’s Basketball Head Coach to assume the leadership of the Program while
Coach Ollie is in the process of exercising his rights under the University’s Grievance Process, as required by the
Collective Bargaining Agreement (“CBA”) between the University and AAUP. The CBA provides, in Articles
10 & 37.12, that the University has the authority to suspend the employee with pay until the employee has had
the opportunity to fully exhaust their rights under the Grievance Process which includes arbitration by an
independent arbitrator. Coach Ollie’s Grievance Process has not yet been concluded and therefore, the Coach is
entitled to due process before his employment, which is a property right for the term of his employment contract,
can be taken from him. The CBA requires that no termination of an employee’s employment status may take
place until there is a final determination of “serious misconduct” by an independent arbitrator. Until such time
the Coach is suspended with pay and is entitled to return to his position as Head Men’s Basketball Coach.  
 
The purpose of this communication is to put the University on notice that in the event the University decides to
replace Coach Ollie, on a permanent basis, prior to the conclusion of the Grievance process, we will deem your
actions to be a material breach of the Coach’s Employment Agreement and a circumvention of CBA which
governs the basis and procedures for “just cause”. In the event the University chooses to breach the agreement
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in this manner, Coach Ollie shall be immediately entitled to full payment of his compensation, as provided under
Paragraph 10.2 of his Employment Agreement for termination “without cause”.  
 
Ricky Lefft 

Joseph R. (Ricky) Lefft


Attorney at Law
LECLAIRRYAN  
(804) 343-4079 Direct
(803) 493-5044 Mobile
Ricky.Lefft@leclairryan.com
https://www.leclairryan.com  
 
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Philippi, Megan

From: Bannister, Kelly


Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2018 11:40 AM
To: Michael Bailey (MichaelBailey@uconnaaup.org)
Cc: Brian Doyle (briandoyle@fdclawoffice.com); Benedict, David
Subject: Kevin Ollie Hearing

Michael, 
 
I understand you advised Nicole Gelston earlier today that you and Brian Doyle are available during the afternoon of 
April 5th. Please allow this email to confirm that Coach Ollie’s hearing with David Benedict has been rescheduled for 
Thursday, April 5, 2018, at Noon, in the garden level conference room at Gulley Hall. The University will not entertain 
any further requests by or on behalf of Coach Ollie for postponement or extension of the timelines for this hearing. 
 
Thanks, 
Kelly 
 
Kelly L. Bannister, Esq. 
Associate Director and Attorney 
 
Office of Faculty & Staff Labor Relations 
University of Connecticut 
9 Walters Avenue, Unit 5075 
Storrs, Connecticut 06269‐5075 
Tel: (860) 486‐2585 (direct) 
Tel: (860) 486‐5684 (main) 
Fax: (860) 486‐3390 
kelly.bannister@uconn.edu 
 
www.lr.uconn.edu 
 
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Philippi, Megan

From: Michael Bailey <MichaelBailey@uconnaaup.org>


Sent: Tuesday, April 3, 2018 4:02 PM
To: Herbst, Susan
Cc: Brian Doyle; Jacques Parenteau; William Madsen; Gelston, Nicole; Bannister, Kelly;
Barbara Kratochvil
Subject: Ollie Termination Hearing

Importance: High

April 2, 2018 
 
Susan Herbst, President 
University of Connecticut 
Office of the President 
Storrs, CT 06269‐2048 
 
Dear President Herbst, 
  
UConn‐AAUP joins the law firm of Madsen, Prestley & Parenteau, LLC in calling for Athletic Director David 
Benedict to be removed as hearing officer in the termination case of Kevin Ollie.  
  
Our decision is based on the email from Nicole Gelston, Interim General Counsel, date March 22, 2018 in 
which she states that in the event that “just cause” is not established to terminate Coach Ollie’s employment 
pursuant to the serious noncompliance section of the CBA, “then he will be terminated for ‘any reason other 
than just cause as defined in Article 10.1.’” Clearly, the decision of the administration as been made and no 
response from Mr. Ollie at the hearing is going to persuade Director Benedict.  
  
I will also to inform you that James Parenteau and William Madsen will be replacing Ricky Lefft as non‐
participants at the hearing on Thursday. 
  
If both sides are agreeable, we would like to audio record the hearing. Please respond to this request. 
  
Finally, we believe that the names of the individuals in the testimony should not be redacted, as in this case, 
they fall outside the scope of FERPA. 
  
Please feel free to call if you have any questions. 
  
Michael 
  
Cc:      B. Doyle 
            J. Parenteau 
            W. Madsen 
            N. Gelston 
            K. Bannister 

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Philippi, Megan

From: Bannister, Kelly


Sent: Tuesday, April 3, 2018 9:49 PM
To: 'jparenteau@mppjustice.com'
Cc: wmadsen@mppjustice.com; Michael Bailey (MichaelBailey@uconnaaup.org); Gelston,
Nicole; Rubin, Rachel; Brian Doyle (briandoyle@fdclawoffice.com)
Subject: RE: Kevin J. Ollie v. University of Connecticut
Attachments: Ltr to Parenteau re Ollie.pdf

Good evening, 
 
Please see the attached response to your earlier correspondence. 
 
Thanks, 
Kelly 
 
Kelly L. Bannister, Esq. 
Associate Director and Attorney 
 
Office of Faculty & Staff Labor Relations 
University of Connecticut 
9 Walters Avenue, Unit 5075 
Storrs, Connecticut 06269‐5075 
Tel: (860) 486‐2585 (direct) 
Tel: (860) 486‐5684 (main) 
Fax: (860) 486‐3390 
kelly.bannister@uconn.edu 
 
www.lr.uconn.edu 
 
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From: Valerie Willoughby <VWilloughby@mppjustice.com>  
Sent: Tuesday, April 3, 2018 1:45 PM 
To: Rubin, Rachel <rachel.rubin@uconn.edu> 
Subject: Kevin J. Ollie v. University of Connecticut 
 
 
Please see the attached letter from Attorneys Madsen and Parenteau. 
 
Thank you. 
 
   
Valerie Willoughby   

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Philippi, Megan

From: Michael Bailey <MichaelBailey@uconnaaup.org>


Sent: Wednesday, April 4, 2018 12:02 PM
To: Bannister, Kelly; 'jparenteau@mppjustice.com'
Cc: wmadsen@mppjustice.com; Gelston, Nicole; Rubin, Rachel; Brian Doyle
(briandoyle@fdclawoffice.com)
Subject: Re: Kevin J. Ollie v. University of Connecticut
Attachments: image001.jpg; image002.jpg

Kelly, 
 
Please be advised that we are conference calling right now and will respond within the hour. 
 
Thank you for your patience. 
 
Michael 
Michael Bailey 
Executive Director 
UConn‐AAUP 
860‐487‐0450 
 
From: <Bannister>, Kelly <kelly.bannister@uconn.edu> 
Date: Tuesday, April 3, 2018 at 9:49 PM 
To: "'jparenteau@mppjustice.com'" <jparenteau@mppjustice.com> 
Cc: "wmadsen@mppjustice.com" <wmadsen@mppjustice.com>, Michael Bailey <michaelbailey@uconnaaup.org>, 
"Gelston, Nicole" <nicole.gelston@uconn.edu>, "Rubin, Rachel" <rachel.rubin@uconn.edu>, Brian Doyle 
<briandoyle@fdclawoffice.com> 
Subject: RE: Kevin J. Ollie v. University of Connecticut 
 
Good evening, 
  
Please see the attached response to your earlier correspondence. 
  
Thanks, 
Kelly 
  
Kelly L. Bannister, Esq. 
Associate Director and Attorney 
  
Office of Faculty & Staff Labor Relations 
University of Connecticut 
9 Walters Avenue, Unit 5075 
Storrs, Connecticut 06269‐5075 
Tel: (860) 486‐2585 (direct) 
Tel: (860) 486‐5684 (main) 
Fax: (860) 486‐3390 
kelly.bannister@uconn.edu 
  
www.lr.uconn.edu 
  
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From: Valerie Willoughby <VWilloughby@mppjustice.com>  
Sent: Tuesday, April 3, 2018 1:45 PM 
To: Rubin, Rachel <rachel.rubin@uconn.edu> 
Subject: Kevin J. Ollie v. University of Connecticut 
  
  
Please see the attached letter from Attorneys Madsen and Parenteau. 
  
Thank you. 
  
    
Valerie Willoughby    
Legal Assistant 
vwilloughby@mppjustice.com    
    
              
     
   105 Huntington Street 
   New London, CT 06320 
Phone: (860) 442‐2466 
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www.mppjustice.com 
  
 

  
  
  
  
  
  
  
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Philippi, Megan

From: Michael Bailey <MichaelBailey@uconnaaup.org>


Sent: Wednesday, April 4, 2018 1:05 PM
To: Bannister, Kelly; 'jparenteau@mppjustice.com'
Cc: wmadsen@mppjustice.com; Gelston, Nicole; Rubin, Rachel; Brian Doyle
(briandoyle@fdclawoffice.com)
Subject: Re: Kevin J. Ollie v. University of Connecticut
Attachments: image001.jpg; image002.jpg

Kelly, 
  
In response to your letter to Attorney Parenteau, which was attached to an email dated April 3, 2018, we will accept 
your offer to postpone the hearing, but Brian Doyle is not available for April 12. Is April 13th available? 
  
We look forward to the information that you will provide prior to April 6, 2017, which will give us a fuller explanation of 
the specific violations supported by the transcripts.  
  
In addition to this information, and in preparation of our hearing, we would like to request all transcripts of interviews 
that were held prior to March 10, 2018, including, but not limited to, that of Kevin Freeman, Director of Basketball 
Operations and Sean Miller’s mother Stephanie (last name unknown).  
  
In response to you continued reference to opportunities to hold this hearing and requests to reschedule or reject dates, 
both parties have had difficulty with their availability and have asked for alternative dates. We thank you for the 
opportunity to accommodate those needs as we are all trying to provide Kevin with appropriate representation, due 
process, and a meaningful response at his hearing. 
 
Michael 
Michael Bailey 
Executive Director 
UConn‐AAUP 
860‐487‐0450 
 
From: <Bannister>, Kelly <kelly.bannister@uconn.edu> 
Date: Tuesday, April 3, 2018 at 9:49 PM 
To: "'jparenteau@mppjustice.com'" <jparenteau@mppjustice.com> 
Cc: "wmadsen@mppjustice.com" <wmadsen@mppjustice.com>, Michael Bailey <michaelbailey@uconnaaup.org>, 
"Gelston, Nicole" <nicole.gelston@uconn.edu>, "Rubin, Rachel" <rachel.rubin@uconn.edu>, Brian Doyle 
<briandoyle@fdclawoffice.com> 
Subject: RE: Kevin J. Ollie v. University of Connecticut 
 
Good evening, 
  
Please see the attached response to your earlier correspondence. 
  
Thanks, 
Kelly 
  
Kelly L. Bannister, Esq. 
Associate Director and Attorney 

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Office of Faculty & Staff Labor Relations 
University of Connecticut 
9 Walters Avenue, Unit 5075 
Storrs, Connecticut 06269‐5075 
Tel: (860) 486‐2585 (direct) 
Tel: (860) 486‐5684 (main) 
Fax: (860) 486‐3390 
kelly.bannister@uconn.edu 
  
www.lr.uconn.edu 
  
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From: Valerie Willoughby <VWilloughby@mppjustice.com>  
Sent: Tuesday, April 3, 2018 1:45 PM 
To: Rubin, Rachel <rachel.rubin@uconn.edu> 
Subject: Kevin J. Ollie v. University of Connecticut 
  
  
Please see the attached letter from Attorneys Madsen and Parenteau. 
  
Thank you. 
  
    
Valerie Willoughby    
Legal Assistant 
vwilloughby@mppjustice.com    
    
              
     
   105 Huntington Street 
   New London, CT 06320 
Phone: (860) 442‐2466 
Fax: (860) 447‐9206 
www.mppjustice.com 
  
 

  
  
  
  
  
  
  
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Philippi, Megan

From: Bannister, Kelly


Sent: Wednesday, April 4, 2018 4:29 PM
To: Michael Bailey
Subject: RE: Kevin J. Ollie v. University of Connecticut

Michael, 
 
If you are not available on April 12th, the University is able to offer April 11th, beginning at or after 1:30pm.  
 
I also acknowledge your request for additional transcripts. 
 
Thanks, 
Kelly 
 
Kelly L. Bannister, Esq. 
Associate Director and Attorney 
 
Office of Faculty & Staff Labor Relations 
University of Connecticut 
9 Walters Avenue, Unit 5075 
Storrs, Connecticut 06269‐5075 
Tel: (860) 486‐2585 (direct) 
Tel: (860) 486‐5684 (main) 
Fax: (860) 486‐3390 
kelly.bannister@uconn.edu 
 
www.lr.uconn.edu 
 
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From: Michael Bailey [mailto:MichaelBailey@uconnaaup.org]  
Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2018 1:05 PM 
To: Bannister, Kelly <kelly.bannister@uconn.edu>; 'jparenteau@mppjustice.com' <jparenteau@mppjustice.com> 
Cc: wmadsen@mppjustice.com; Gelston, Nicole <nicole.gelston@uconn.edu>; Rubin, Rachel 
<rachel.rubin@uconn.edu>; Brian Doyle (briandoyle@fdclawoffice.com) <briandoyle@fdclawoffice.com> 
Subject: Re: Kevin J. Ollie v. University of Connecticut 
 
Kelly, 
  
In response to your letter to Attorney Parenteau, which was attached to an email dated April 3, 2018, we will accept 
your offer to postpone the hearing, but Brian Doyle is not available for April 12. Is April 13th available? 
  
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We look forward to the information that you will provide prior to April 6, 2017, which will give us a fuller explanation of 
the specific violations supported by the transcripts.  
  
In addition to this information, and in preparation of our hearing, we would like to request all transcripts of interviews 
that were held prior to March 10, 2018, including, but not limited to, that of Kevin Freeman, Director of Basketball 
Operations and   mother   (last name unknown).  
  
In response to you continued reference to opportunities to hold this hearing and requests to reschedule or reject dates, 
both parties have had difficulty with their availability and have asked for alternative dates. We thank you for the 
opportunity to accommodate those needs as we are all trying to provide Kevin with appropriate representation, due 
process, and a meaningful response at his hearing. 
 
Michael 
Michael Bailey 
Executive Director 
UConn‐AAUP 
860‐487‐0450 
 
From: <Bannister>, Kelly <kelly.bannister@uconn.edu> 
Date: Tuesday, April 3, 2018 at 9:49 PM 
To: "'jparenteau@mppjustice.com'" <jparenteau@mppjustice.com> 
Cc: "wmadsen@mppjustice.com" <wmadsen@mppjustice.com>, Michael Bailey <michaelbailey@uconnaaup.org>, 
"Gelston, Nicole" <nicole.gelston@uconn.edu>, "Rubin, Rachel" <rachel.rubin@uconn.edu>, Brian Doyle 
<briandoyle@fdclawoffice.com> 
Subject: RE: Kevin J. Ollie v. University of Connecticut 
 
Good evening, 
  
Please see the attached response to your earlier correspondence. 
  
Thanks, 
Kelly 
  
Kelly L. Bannister, Esq. 
Associate Director and Attorney 
  
Office of Faculty & Staff Labor Relations 
University of Connecticut 
9 Walters Avenue, Unit 5075 
Storrs, Connecticut 06269‐5075 
Tel: (860) 486‐2585 (direct) 
Tel: (860) 486‐5684 (main) 
Fax: (860) 486‐3390 
kelly.bannister@uconn.edu 
  
www.lr.uconn.edu 
  
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From: Valerie Willoughby <VWilloughby@mppjustice.com>  
Sent: Tuesday, April 3, 2018 1:45 PM 
To: Rubin, Rachel <rachel.rubin@uconn.edu> 
Subject: Kevin J. Ollie v. University of Connecticut 
  
  
Please see the attached letter from Attorneys Madsen and Parenteau. 
  
Thank you. 
  
    
Valerie Willoughby    
Legal Assistant 
vwilloughby@mppjustice.com    
    
              
     
   105 Huntington Street 
   New London, CT 06320 
Phone: (860) 442‐2466 
Fax: (860) 447‐9206 
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Philippi, Megan

From: Michael Bailey <MichaelBailey@uconnaaup.org>


Sent: Thursday, April 5, 2018 10:28 AM
To: Bannister, Kelly
Cc: Barbara Kratochvil; Brian Doyle
Subject: Re: Kevin J. Ollie v. University of Connecticut
Attachments: image001.jpg; image002.jpg

Kelly, 
 
Please allow this email to confirm the Kevin Ollie hearing for Wednesday, April 11, 2018 at 2:00 PM in the Garden Room at 
Gulley Hall. Thank you for your patience in scheduling this meeting. 
 
Michael 
Michael Bailey 
Executive Director 
UConn‐AAUP 
860‐487‐0450 
 
From: <Bannister>, Kelly <kelly.bannister@uconn.edu> 
Date: Wednesday, April 4, 2018 at 4:28 PM 
To: Michael Bailey <michaelbailey@uconnaaup.org> 
Subject: RE: Kevin J. Ollie v. University of Connecticut 
 
Michael, 
  
If you are not available on April 12th, the University is able to offer April 11th, beginning at or after 1:30pm.  
  
I also acknowledge your request for additional transcripts. 
  
Thanks, 
Kelly 
  
Kelly L. Bannister, Esq. 
Associate Director and Attorney 
  
Office of Faculty & Staff Labor Relations 
University of Connecticut 
9 Walters Avenue, Unit 5075 
Storrs, Connecticut 06269‐5075 
Tel: (860) 486‐2585 (direct) 
Tel: (860) 486‐5684 (main) 
Fax: (860) 486‐3390 
kelly.bannister@uconn.edu 
  
www.lr.uconn.edu 
  
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From: Michael Bailey [mailto:MichaelBailey@uconnaaup.org]  
Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2018 1:05 PM 
To: Bannister, Kelly <kelly.bannister@uconn.edu>; 'jparenteau@mppjustice.com' <jparenteau@mppjustice.com> 
Cc: wmadsen@mppjustice.com; Gelston, Nicole <nicole.gelston@uconn.edu>; Rubin, Rachel 
<rachel.rubin@uconn.edu>; Brian Doyle (briandoyle@fdclawoffice.com) <briandoyle@fdclawoffice.com> 
Subject: Re: Kevin J. Ollie v. University of Connecticut 
  
Kelly, 
  
In response to your letter to Attorney Parenteau, which was attached to an email dated April 3, 2018, we will accept 
your offer to postpone the hearing, but Brian Doyle is not available for April 12. Is April 13th available? 
  
We look forward to the information that you will provide prior to April 6, 2017, which will give us a fuller explanation of 
the specific violations supported by the transcripts.  
  
In addition to this information, and in preparation of our hearing, we would like to request all transcripts of interviews 
that were held prior to March 10, 2018, including, but not limited to, that of Kevin Freeman, Director of Basketball 
Operations and   mother   (last name unknown).  
  
In response to you continued reference to opportunities to hold this hearing and requests to reschedule or reject dates, 
both parties have had difficulty with their availability and have asked for alternative dates. We thank you for the 
opportunity to accommodate those needs as we are all trying to provide Kevin with appropriate representation, due 
process, and a meaningful response at his hearing. 
  
Michael 
Michael Bailey 
Executive Director 
UConn‐AAUP 
860‐487‐0450 
  
From: <Bannister>, Kelly <kelly.bannister@uconn.edu> 
Date: Tuesday, April 3, 2018 at 9:49 PM 
To: "'jparenteau@mppjustice.com'" <jparenteau@mppjustice.com> 
Cc: "wmadsen@mppjustice.com" <wmadsen@mppjustice.com>, Michael Bailey <michaelbailey@uconnaaup.org>, 
"Gelston, Nicole" <nicole.gelston@uconn.edu>, "Rubin, Rachel" <rachel.rubin@uconn.edu>, Brian Doyle 
<briandoyle@fdclawoffice.com> 
Subject: RE: Kevin J. Ollie v. University of Connecticut 
  
Good evening, 
  
Please see the attached response to your earlier correspondence. 
  
Thanks, 
Kelly 
  
Kelly L. Bannister, Esq. 
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Associate Director and Attorney 
  
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University of Connecticut 
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From: Valerie Willoughby <VWilloughby@mppjustice.com>  
Sent: Tuesday, April 3, 2018 1:45 PM 
To: Rubin, Rachel <rachel.rubin@uconn.edu> 
Subject: Kevin J. Ollie v. University of Connecticut 
  
  
Please see the attached letter from Attorneys Madsen and Parenteau. 
  
Thank you. 
  
    
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Philippi, Megan

From: Bannister, Kelly


Sent: Friday, April 6, 2018 3:02 PM
To: kollie12@gmail.com; Ollie, Kevin
Cc: Benedict, David; Michael Bailey (MichaelBailey@uconnaaup.org); Brian Doyle
(briandoyle@fdclawoffice.com)
Subject: Information for Article 37.12 Hearing
Attachments: Scanned from a Xerox Multifunction Device.pdf

Good afternoon, 
 
On behalf of David Benedict, Director of Athletics, please see the attached letter. 
 
Thanks, 
Kelly 
 
Kelly L. Bannister, Esq. 
Associate Director and Attorney 
 
Office of Faculty & Staff Labor Relations 
University of Connecticut 
9 Walters Avenue, Unit 5075 
Storrs, Connecticut 06269‐5075 
Tel: (860) 486‐2585 (direct) 
Tel: (860) 486‐5684 (main) 
Fax: (860) 486‐3390 
kelly.bannister@uconn.edu 
 
www.lr.uconn.edu 
 
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Philippi, Megan

From: Michael Bailey <MichaelBailey@uconnaaup.org>


Sent: Saturday, April 7, 2018 8:34 AM
To: Bannister, Kelly; kollie12@gmail.com; Ollie, Kevin
Cc: Benedict, David; Brian Doyle (briandoyle@fdclawoffice.com)
Subject: Re: Information for Article 37.12 Hearing

Ms. Bannister, 
 
This email will confirm receipt of Director Benedict's letter as requested in my email to you on April 4, 2018.  
 
Thank you. 
 
Michael 
 
From: "Bannister, Kelly" <kelly.bannister@uconn.edu> 
Date: Friday, April 6, 2018 3:02 PM 
To: Kevin Ollie <KOllie12@gmail.com>, "Ollie, Kevin" <kevin.ollie@uconn.edu> 
Cc: "Benedict, David" <david.benedict@uconn.edu>, Michael Bailey <michaelbailey@uconnaaup.org>, Brian Doyle 
<briandoyle@fdclawoffice.com> 
Subject: Information for Article 37.12 Hearing 
 
Good afternoon, 
  
On behalf of David Benedict, Director of Athletics, please see the attached letter. 
  
Thanks, 
Kelly 
  
Kelly L. Bannister, Esq. 
Associate Director and Attorney 
  
Office of Faculty & Staff Labor Relations 
University of Connecticut 
9 Walters Avenue, Unit 5075 
Storrs, Connecticut 06269‐5075 
Tel: (860) 486‐2585 (direct) 
Tel: (860) 486‐5684 (main) 
Fax: (860) 486‐3390 
kelly.bannister@uconn.edu 
  
www.lr.uconn.edu 
  
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Philippi, Megan

From: Michael Bailey <MichaelBailey@uconnaaup.org>


Sent: Sunday, April 8, 2018 4:17 PM
To: Bannister, Kelly; kollie12@gmail.com; Ollie, Kevin; Benedict, David
Cc: Brian Doyle (briandoyle@fdclawoffice.com)
Subject: Re: Information for Article 37.12 Hearing

Director Benedict, 
  
Following‐up on this email, there were several other requests that are still pending, including transcripts of testimony 
provided by Kevin Freeman and   an agreement to audio record the hearing 
on Wednesday and the unveiling of the redacted information in the transcripts that you have provided. Of particular 
importance, is the testimony of  , which I believe has not been forwarded to UConn‐AAUP. (The 
redacted testimony is difficult to identify.) 
  
In regards to your letter, please be aware that your letter fails to cure one of the primary deficiencies identified in the 
letter from Madsen, Prestley & Parenteau, LLC to President Herbst dated April 3, 2018.  On ten separate occasions the 
letter states there is “substantial evidence” to demonstrate the violation of a NCAA By‐Law.  In each case the claim of 
possessing “substantial evidence” is followed by a recitation of alleged proof that is neither “substantial” nor complete 
in its attempt to support the claim made, while alluding to the possible existence of other evidence. This failure to 
provide due process is particularly apparent in the “Duty to Report” and “Duty to Promote Compliance” sections where 
no explanation of the basis for Coach Ollie’s knowledge is provided in the former case, and no explanation whatsoever is 
provided in the latter case.  
  
As previously noted, claiming to possess “substantial evidence” without providing an explanation of what the evidence 
consists of and how that evidence amounts to just cause does not comport with Coach Ollie’s constitutional rights.  Let 
me once again remind you of the guiding principle. 
  
While pre‐termination process “need not be elaborate or approach ... a full adversary hearing, ... due process 
does require that before being terminated such an employee be given oral or written notice of the charges 
against her, an explanation of the employer's evidence, and an opportunity to present her side of the story.” 
Otero v. Bridgeport Housing Auth., 297 F.3d 142, 151 (2d Cir.2002) (union employee accused of stealing from 
her employer who was told only that there was “substantial evidence” against her was denied due 
process). In Otero, the Second Circuit held that “merely presenting ‘some semblance’ of the evidence ... does 
not necessarily afford the accused an adequate opportunity to present her side of the story,” and that “mere 
notice of the charge, ... is not an explanation of the evidence and does not necessarily suffice to provide due 
process.” Id. at 151–52. 
  
Holmes v. Town of E. Lyme, 866 F. Supp. 2d 108, 123 (D. Conn. 2012).  You are on notice that Coach Ollie expects nothing 
less than a full recitation of the proof and an explanation of how that evidence gave rise to the right to claim the 
existence of just cause to terminate Coach Ollie’s employment on or before March 10, 2018.  If the University fails to 
provide a full explanation of the evidence that it relies upon, then the union will claim the University is limited to the 
evidence and explanation it did provide and will respond accordingly. 
  
Coach Ollie is also troubled by reference to evidence in your letter that post‐dates the March 10, 2018 letter to Coach 
Ollie.  It stands to reason that information that did not exist prior to March 10, 2018 cannot be relied upon for a decision 
that was made on or before that date.  Thus, reference to the interview with Mr. Illian could not possibly form the basis 
for a just cause termination and will not be admissible in any post‐termination proceedings should the University 
continue to pursue this reckless termination of Coach Ollie.  

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Thank you. 
 
Michael 
Michael Bailey 
Executive Director 
UConn‐AAUP 
860‐487‐0450 
 
From: "Bannister, Kelly" <kelly.bannister@uconn.edu> 
Date: Friday, April 6, 2018 3:02 PM 
To: Kevin Ollie <KOllie12@gmail.com>, "Ollie, Kevin" <kevin.ollie@uconn.edu> 
Cc: "Benedict, David" <david.benedict@uconn.edu>, Michael Bailey <michaelbailey@uconnaaup.org>, Brian Doyle 
<briandoyle@fdclawoffice.com> 
Subject: Information for Article 37.12 Hearing 
 
Good afternoon, 
  
On behalf of David Benedict, Director of Athletics, please see the attached letter. 
  
Thanks, 
Kelly 
  
Kelly L. Bannister, Esq. 
Associate Director and Attorney 
  
Office of Faculty & Staff Labor Relations 
University of Connecticut 
9 Walters Avenue, Unit 5075 
Storrs, Connecticut 06269‐5075 
Tel: (860) 486‐2585 (direct) 
Tel: (860) 486‐5684 (main) 
Fax: (860) 486‐3390 
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www.lr.uconn.edu 
  
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Philippi, Megan

From: Bannister, Kelly


Sent: Monday, April 9, 2018 3:43 PM
To: Michael Bailey; kollie12@gmail.com; Ollie, Kevin; Benedict, David
Cc: Brian Doyle (briandoyle@fdclawoffice.com)
Subject: RE: Information for Article 37.12 Hearing

Michael, 
 
On behalf of David Benedict, please allow this email to serve as a response to yours, below.  
 
Neither Mr. Benedict nor I am not going to engage in extensive legal debate with you, or any of Mr. Ollie’s 
representatives, in these communications. Suffice it to say that we disagree with your interpretation of the law and 
stand by the adequacy of the notice of charges and explanation of the evidence provided in Mr. Benedict’s March 10, 
2018 and April 6, 2018 letters. Even assuming, arguendo, that Mr. Ollie has a property interest in his continued 
employment, it is well‐established that at this stage in the process, the “’requisite hearing is a minimal one’” and “is not 
intended ‘to resolve the propriety of the discharge.’” Faghri v. Univ. of Conn., 621 F.3d 92, 99 (2d Cir. 2010) (internal 
quotations omitted). This is especially true where, as here, Mr. Ollie is afforded two internal hearings prior to the 
University’s final action, as well as post‐action arbitration under the procedures contained in the AAUP collective 
bargaining agreement. In short, the minimal standard required by the law has been met, if not exceeded, by the 
explanations and evidence provided to date.  
 
With regard to the other outstanding matters mentioned in your letter, the University has considered your request to 
audio record the hearing with Mr. Benedict. We do not consent to such recording. Hearings of this nature between the 
University, the AAUP, and an individual employee are not usually recorded, and we do not believe that it is necessary to 
do so here.  
 
We also have continued our consideration of your request for unredacted transcripts. At this time, we do not agree to 
providing unredacted documents, but we will provide a key to the interviewee in each redacted transcript. For privacy 
and confidentiality reasons, we request that the identities of the students contained in these transcripts be disclosed 
only to Mr. Ollie’s union and legal representation for purposes of the termination proceedings, and not be distributed 
beyond without the University’s prior consent. Subject to the foregoing, please see the following key to redacted 
transcripts:  
 
Ollie Admin 0009‐0107 =   
Ollie Admin 0108‐0154 =   
Ollie Admin 0260‐0331 =   
Ollie Admin 0332‐0362 =  
Ollie Admin 0637‐0675 =   
Ollie Admin 0954‐0980 =   
Ollie Admin 1096‐1097 =  ) 
 
Finally, your request for additional transcripts was made less than a week ago, despite this process having been initiated 
nearly a month ago. I called your office on Friday to speak about your request and left a voice mail, which call was not 
returned until this morning, after your written response was received. Notwithstanding, at this time, the University will 
not turn over the transcripts of interviews with Kevin Freeman or Stephanie Garrett. The transcripts of these interviews 
were not generated by the NCAA, but rather by the University’s counsel and, as such, are protected by the attorney 
work product doctrine. The University has by its actions waived the privilege on a limited basis with regard to those 
transcripts upon which Mr. Benedict relied in initiating the process to terminate Mr. Ollie’s employment for just cause or 

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upon which the University may rely to establish just cause during the internal hearings. However, we have not and do 
not intend to extend the waiver to transcripts not used for these purposes. 
 
Finally, we also acknowledge that you have not been provided with a transcript of the interview with , 
and interpret your email as a request for the same. The University does not possess a transcript and therefore, has no 
responsive documents.  
 
Thanks, 
Kelly 
 
 
Kelly L. Bannister, Esq. 
Associate Director and Attorney 
 
Office of Faculty & Staff Labor Relations 
University of Connecticut 
9 Walters Avenue, Unit 5075 
Storrs, Connecticut 06269‐5075 
Tel: (860) 486‐2585 (direct) 
Tel: (860) 486‐5684 (main) 
Fax: (860) 486‐3390 
kelly.bannister@uconn.edu 
 
www.lr.uconn.edu 
 
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From: Michael Bailey [mailto:MichaelBailey@uconnaaup.org]  
Sent: Sunday, April 08, 2018 4:17 PM 
To: Bannister, Kelly <kelly.bannister@uconn.edu>; kollie12@gmail.com; Ollie, Kevin <kevin.ollie@uconn.edu>; Benedict, 
David <david.benedict@uconn.edu> 
Cc: Brian Doyle (briandoyle@fdclawoffice.com) <briandoyle@fdclawoffice.com> 
Subject: Re: Information for Article 37.12 Hearing 
 
Director Benedict, 
  
Following‐up on this email, there were several other requests that are still pending, including transcripts of testimony 
provided by Kevin Freeman and Stephanie Garrett, , an agreement to audio record the hearing 
on Wednesday and the unveiling of the redacted information in the transcripts that you have provided. Of particular 
importance, is the testimony of , which I believe has not been forwarded to UConn‐AAUP. (The 
redacted testimony is difficult to identify.) 
  
In regards to your letter, please be aware that your letter fails to cure one of the primary deficiencies identified in the 
letter from Madsen, Prestley & Parenteau, LLC to President Herbst dated April 3, 2018.  On ten separate occasions the 
letter states there is “substantial evidence” to demonstrate the violation of a NCAA By‐Law.  In each case the claim of 
possessing “substantial evidence” is followed by a recitation of alleged proof that is neither “substantial” nor complete 
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in its attempt to support the claim made, while alluding to the possible existence of other evidence. This failure to 
provide due process is particularly apparent in the “Duty to Report” and “Duty to Promote Compliance” sections where 
no explanation of the basis for Coach Ollie’s knowledge is provided in the former case, and no explanation whatsoever is 
provided in the latter case.  
  
As previously noted, claiming to possess “substantial evidence” without providing an explanation of what the evidence 
consists of and how that evidence amounts to just cause does not comport with Coach Ollie’s constitutional rights.  Let 
me once again remind you of the guiding principle. 
  
While pre‐termination process “need not be elaborate or approach ... a full adversary hearing, ... due process 
does require that before being terminated such an employee be given oral or written notice of the charges 
against her, an explanation of the employer's evidence, and an opportunity to present her side of the story.” 
Otero v. Bridgeport Housing Auth., 297 F.3d 142, 151 (2d Cir.2002) (union employee accused of stealing from 
her employer who was told only that there was “substantial evidence” against her was denied due 
process). In Otero, the Second Circuit held that “merely presenting ‘some semblance’ of the evidence ... does 
not necessarily afford the accused an adequate opportunity to present her side of the story,” and that “mere 
notice of the charge, ... is not an explanation of the evidence and does not necessarily suffice to provide due 
process.” Id. at 151–52. 
  
Holmes v. Town of E. Lyme, 866 F. Supp. 2d 108, 123 (D. Conn. 2012).  You are on notice that Coach Ollie expects nothing 
less than a full recitation of the proof and an explanation of how that evidence gave rise to the right to claim the 
existence of just cause to terminate Coach Ollie’s employment on or before March 10, 2018.  If the University fails to 
provide a full explanation of the evidence that it relies upon, then the union will claim the University is limited to the 
evidence and explanation it did provide and will respond accordingly. 
  
Coach Ollie is also troubled by reference to evidence in your letter that post‐dates the March 10, 2018 letter to Coach 
Ollie.  It stands to reason that information that did not exist prior to March 10, 2018 cannot be relied upon for a decision 
that was made on or before that date.  Thus, reference to the interview with Mr. Illian could not possibly form the basis 
for a just cause termination and will not be admissible in any post‐termination proceedings should the University 
continue to pursue this reckless termination of Coach Ollie.  
 
Thank you. 
 
Michael 
Michael Bailey 
Executive Director 
UConn‐AAUP 
860‐487‐0450 
 
From: "Bannister, Kelly" <kelly.bannister@uconn.edu> 
Date: Friday, April 6, 2018 3:02 PM 
To: Kevin Ollie <KOllie12@gmail.com>, "Ollie, Kevin" <kevin.ollie@uconn.edu> 
Cc: "Benedict, David" <david.benedict@uconn.edu>, Michael Bailey <michaelbailey@uconnaaup.org>, Brian Doyle 
<briandoyle@fdclawoffice.com> 
Subject: Information for Article 37.12 Hearing 
 
Good afternoon, 
  
On behalf of David Benedict, Director of Athletics, please see the attached letter. 
  
Thanks, 
Kelly 

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Kelly L. Bannister, Esq. 
Associate Director and Attorney 
  
Office of Faculty & Staff Labor Relations 
University of Connecticut 
9 Walters Avenue, Unit 5075 
Storrs, Connecticut 06269‐5075 
Tel: (860) 486‐2585 (direct) 
Tel: (860) 486‐5684 (main) 
Fax: (860) 486‐3390 
kelly.bannister@uconn.edu 
  
www.lr.uconn.edu 
  
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Philippi, Megan

From: Bannister, Kelly


Sent: Friday, April 13, 2018 5:33 PM
To: Brian Doyle; Michael Bailey
Subject: Kevin Ollie - Hearing with President Herbst

Brian and Michael, 
  
In anticipation of a request by or on behalf of Kevin Ollie for a hearing with President Herbst pursuant to Article 
37.12(B)(iii), I have reserved time with President Herbst on April 27, 2018, beginning at 9:00am. President Herbst will be 
travelling out of state earlier in the week of April 23‐27, so the hearing cannot take place before Friday, April 27th. 
Furthermore, we understand that you will need some time to review Mr. Benedict’s written decision, once issued. 
  
I am aware that on this date, the University and the AAUP are scheduled for a hearing at the State Board of Labor 
Relations beginning at 9:30am. The University is prepared to meet both obligations and does not require an extension or 
delay of either proceeding. However, should the AAUP decide to request a postponement of the Labor Board hearing to 
a later time or date, the University does not oppose such request and you may represent the same to the Labor Board. 
  
Alternatively, I expect that you may ask the University to postpone or select another date for the hearing with President 
Herbst. Pursuant to Article 3.2 of his Employment Agreement, Coach Ollie may accrue additional compensation on May 
1, 2018. Therefore, the University cannot allow the internal steps in the Article 37 disciplinary process to continue 
beyond April 30th. Since its initiation on March 10th, the University has been diligently pursuing completion of the 
internal disciplinary process. During this time, the AAUP has requested extensions, which were granted. The hearing 
finally occurred on April 11th. Notwithstanding that Coach Ollie and his representatives had a month to prepare for this 
hearing, and that this hearing was Coach Ollie’s opportunity to be fully and fairly heard, neither Coach Ollie nor anyone 
on his behalf presented any information for Mr. Benedict’s consideration and instead requested another one‐week 
extension to offer a written response. Despite having no obligation to do so, the University again granted the AAUP’s 
request for an extension and has agreed to hold the record open until next Wednesday to allow for this additional 
submission.  

Based on the foregoing, the University is extremely limited in its ability to grant further postponements or extensions for 
hearings in this matter. Should the AAUP request the University reschedule the April 27th hearing with President Herbst, 
the University will require an agreement from Coach Ollie and the AAUP to extend the date for accrual of additional 
compensation pursuant to Article 3.2 of the Employment Agreement from May 1, 2018 to a date no earlier than 10 
calendar days after the hearing with President Herbst (or the closing of the record if the AAUP again requests that the 
record remain open in order to submit additional materials after the hearing).  
  
Thanks, 
Kelly 
 
Kelly L. Bannister, Esq. 
Associate Director and Attorney 
 
Office of Faculty & Staff Labor Relations 
University of Connecticut 
9 Walters Avenue, Unit 5075 
Storrs, Connecticut 06269‐5075 
Tel: (860) 486‐2585 (direct) 
Tel: (860) 486‐5684 (main) 

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Fax: (860) 486‐3390 
kelly.bannister@uconn.edu 
 
www.lr.uconn.edu 
 
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Philippi, Megan

From: Michael Bailey <MichaelBailey@uconnaaup.org>


Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2018 2:25 PM
To: Bannister, Kelly; Benedict, David; Gelston, Nicole
Cc: Brian Doyle (briandoyle@fdclawoffice.com); Ollie, Kevin; kollie12@gmail.com
Subject: Re: Information for Article 37.12 Hearing
Attachments: KEVIN.OLLIE.RESPONSE.04.18.18.pdf

Good afternoon, 
 
On behalf of Kevin Ollie, please see the attached response to David Benedict’s letter. 
 
Thank you, 
Michael 
  
Michael Bailey 
Executive Director 
UConn‐AAUP 
860‐487‐0450 
 
From: <Bannister>, Kelly <kelly.bannister@uconn.edu> 
Date: Friday, April 6, 2018 at 3:02 PM 
To: Kevin Ollie <KOllie12@gmail.com>, "Ollie, Kevin" <kevin.ollie@uconn.edu> 
Cc: "Benedict, David" <david.benedict@uconn.edu>, Michael Bailey <michaelbailey@uconnaaup.org>, Brian Doyle 
<briandoyle@fdclawoffice.com> 
Subject: Information for Article 37.12 Hearing 
 
Good afternoon, 
  
On behalf of David Benedict, Director of Athletics, please see the attached letter. 
  
Thanks, 
Kelly 
  
Kelly L. Bannister, Esq. 
Associate Director and Attorney 
  
Office of Faculty & Staff Labor Relations 
University of Connecticut 
9 Walters Avenue, Unit 5075 
Storrs, Connecticut 06269‐5075 
Tel: (860) 486‐2585 (direct) 
Tel: (860) 486‐5684 (main) 
Fax: (860) 486‐3390 
kelly.bannister@uconn.edu 
  
www.lr.uconn.edu 
  
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Philippi, Megan

From: Bannister, Kelly


Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2018 10:13 AM
To: Ollie, Kevin; kollie12@gmail.com
Cc: Benedict, David; Herbst, Susan; Rubin, Rachel; Gelston, Nicole; Michael Bailey; Brian
Doyle; wmadsen@mppjustice.com
Subject: Article 37.12(B) Post-Hearing Letter of David Benedict
Attachments: Benedict Post Hearing Letter.pdf; Exhibits to Benedict Post-Hearing Letter.pdf

Good Morning, 
 
On behalf of David Benedict, Director of Athletics, please see the attached letter and corresponding exhibits. 
 
As stated therein, please note that in anticipation of your request for a hearing with President Herbst pursuant to Article 
37.12(B)(iii) of the AAUP contract, time has been reserved for such meeting on Friday, April 27, 2018, at 9:00am. This 
date and time previously was provided to your AAUP representatives. 
 
Thanks, 
Kelly  
 
Kelly L. Bannister, Esq. 
Associate Director and Attorney 
 
Office of Faculty & Staff Labor Relations 
University of Connecticut 
9 Walters Avenue, Unit 5075 
Storrs, Connecticut 06269‐5075 
Tel: (860) 486‐2585 (direct) 
Tel: (860) 486‐5684 (main) 
Fax: (860) 486‐3390 
kelly.bannister@uconn.edu 
 
www.lr.uconn.edu 
 
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Philippi, Megan

From: Goetz, Beth


Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2018 9:49 AM
To: Michael Bailey
Cc: Bannister, Kelly; Gelston, Nicole
Subject: Re: Kevin Ollie

Michael, 
 
Please ask Kevin to leave those item for Larib to pick up from his house. Thanks. 

Beth Goetz 
UConnHuskies.com 
 
On Mar 11, 2018, at 9:43 AM, Michael Bailey <MichaelBailey@uconnaaup.org> wrote: 

Beth, 
 
I have reached out to Nicole seeking a response from David Benedict. Kevin is leaving for Los Angeles at 
12:30 PM this afternoon and will not have time to return keys and a computer. Please let me know if 
Kevin can return the items when he returns from LA on Wednesday. Otherwise, he can make 
arrangement for Larib to pick them up at his house. 
 
Michael 
 
From: "Goetz, Beth" <beth.goetz@uconn.edu> 
Date: Saturday, March 10, 2018 10:16 AM 
To: "Bannister, Kelly" <kelly.bannister@uconn.edu>, Michael Bailey <michaelbailey@uconnaaup.org> 
Cc: "Gelston, Nicole" <nicole.gelston@uconn.edu> 
Subject: Kevin Ollie 

Mike and Kelly, 
  
Please find attached copies of the letters provided to Kevin Ollie. 
  

Beth Goetz
Chief Operating Officer 

UConn Division of Athletics


PHONE: 860.486.2725 | FAX: 860.486.3300
2095 Hillside Road, U-1173 | Storrs, CT 06269-1173 

UConnHuskies.com | @UConnHuskies 

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Philippi, Megan

From: Goetz, Beth


Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2018 10:16 AM
To: Bannister, Kelly; Michael Bailey
Cc: Gelston, Nicole
Subject: Kevin Ollie
Attachments: Ollie Notice of Termination.pdf; Ollie Notice of Leave.pdf

Mike and Kelly, 
 
Please find attached copies of the letters provided to Kevin Ollie. 
 

Beth Goetz
Chief Operating Officer

UConn Division of Athletics


PHONE: 860.486.2725 | FAX: 860.486.3300
2095 Hillside Road, U-1173 | Storrs, CT 06269-1173

UConnHuskies.com | @UConnHuskies

 
 

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