Date : 17 May 2014

Dynamic Analysis
Hadis Alikahi Structural Designer at Moghavem Andishan Company Top Contributor

Hi to everybody,
When a Nonlinear Dynamic Analysis is going to be used, would it be advisable to use all
records from one Earthquake with different stations?

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Zarir

Zarir panthaky

VP Infrastructure Design at Lavasa Corp Ltd

How different would that be? Generally the nearest station will give the most true
picture.

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Hadis Alikahi

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Thank you.

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JUAN PEDRO

JUAN PEDRO FERNANDEZ SOTELO

Ingeniero en Estructuras y Urbanizacón

Si tienes una base de datos de diferentes estaciones sismológicas, es preferible hagas

una triangulación de efectos para determinar la aceleración probable en el sitio donde
harás el diseño de tu edificio. No siempre se presentara el efecto de el sismo de la
estación mas cercana a tu edificio, cuando tienes varias fallas alrededor del sitio de
estudio.

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Dr.Biswajit

Dr.Biswajit Mukherjee

Superintending Engineer at Kolkata Metropolitan Water & Sanitation Authority

For nonlinear dynamic analysis the Earthquake Scenario and all records in the nearest
station generally advisable to use because their similitude.

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Hadis Alikahi

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Gracias por tu ayuda.

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Hadis Alikahi

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Thanks for your help Dr.Biswajit.

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Chehem Vargas Neuville

Ingeniero de proyectos en BC&A Ingenieros Consultores

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 Usually nonlinear dynamic analisys is used if you want to get a special study, i.e.
response of existing structure, reproduction of structural collapse due to seismic loads.
I think for a new structure design you can use a spectral analisis, unless you design a
special structure (i.e. long bridge, high tower).

Nonlinear dynamic analysis is more complicated, no only for numerical methods

associated, but you need to apply different seismic records for get acceptable general
results.

I hope it can help you.

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Pedro P.

Pedro P. Hernandez

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The dynamics of motions can be considered as the doppler effect and the design to
collect data is usually fifty (50) years.

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NY Chang

Professor of Civil Engineering at University of Colorado Denver College of

Engineering

Fundamentally speaking, nonlinear dynamic structural analysis should involve the

following elements: engineering seismicity for earthquake motion selection, structural
material nonlinearity, soil nonlinearity and soil-structure interaction (SSI). SSI effect
can be important. A nonlinear analysis of a California high rise building on piles
revealed larger side sway, but smaller base shear than the rigid base analysis. It is
critical to refer to IBC for analysis requirements.

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 Pertaining to the number of earthquake motion to be adopted in the nonlinear analysis,
it depends on the importance of the structure, as specified in IBC. Since the discussion
involves nonlinear analysis, one would assume the structure is quite important and it
is most likely high rise building. If so, the selection of earthquake should be based on
the engineering seismicity study, which takes into account the site condition, fault
types and focal mechanism of selected design earthquake. All earthquake motions
capable of causing significant damage should be selected for the calculation to
identify the potential destruction. Many finite element analysis computer codes are
available to serve the purpose.
This is a food for thought and hope that it helps to clarify the issue.

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Dr. Osama M. Shawa

President, Managing Director at ENTECHS

Mr NY CHANG,
Your food is full of Nutrients.

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Hadis Alikahi

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 Thanks for the tips everyone.

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Manjula

Manjula Nk

Structural (Civil) Engineering research at NIT calicut

If most of the site conditions and prevailing earthquake wave properties are known,
specific earthquake motions may be enough. But this is unlikely to happen, as same
sites may some times experience slightly different characteristic ground motions. So,
for a general knowledge about the structural behaviour, it will be good to use different
ground motions also, and including both of their components, i. e., fault parallel and
normal.

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NY Chang

Professor of Civil Engineering at University of Colorado Denver College of

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Selection of an earthquake ground motion record for seismic resistant design has to be
done quite carefully. One need to know the causative faults within, say 200 miles, of
the project site. Beyond 200 miles, the quake probably will not produce significant
damaging motion due to the ground motion attenuation. In a seismic resistant design,
just the motion we want is strictly not available. Therefore, for a critical structure, one
motion is definitely not enough. Is a dozen enough? Hard to say, the more the better.
But who can afford? So, one needs to take the risk of having less number of motion in
the analysis. It is quite tricky, if otherwise, we would not need an expert, would we?

Sometimes, it might be good to look into some ground motion record generation
program to generate various motion to fit the subsurface condition of the site,

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including the fault type, epicentral distance, etc. So seismic design is not strictly a
science, it still remains
an art, doesn't it? Now I am confusing everybody. But am I wrong? A food for
thought - 2. NY

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