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Friedrich Kittler's keynote from transmediale
2007, transcribed and translated for the first time,
09.11.2017
Wolfgang Coy
Good evening ladies and gentlemen. Im glad to
see so many have made it here and that Friedrich
Kittler is here. We can start. My name is
Wolfgang Coy. Im a professor of Informatics at
Humboldt University. Friedrich and I are both at
the Helmholtz-Zentrum fr Kulturtechnik, and Id
like to say a few words about our guest before he
starts his lecture, even though it is hardly
necessary in Berlin. Perhaps just a couple of
things anyway.
Friedrich Kittler
1976, I think.
Wolfgang Coy
1976? Did I say 1996? That would be a
performance boost, wouldnt it? Work per unit of
time would be substantially more. No, in 1976, of
course. He then spent ten leisurely years there as
an assistant and in 1984 earned his Habilitation
that was still important thenand then, in 1987
he took the logical next step of accepting a
professorship in Bochum at Ruhr University, an
architectural highlight of the university
landscape. We have been fortunate enough to
have him at Humboldt since 1993, where he
holds the chair of Media Aesthetics and History. I
believe it is almost a direct lineage from Hegels
chair.
Wolfgang Coy
With about 150 academic publications, our guest
is very, very prolific. I want to mention just a few
of the titles that youll know: Discourse Networks
(1985) and Gramophone Film Typewriter (1986),
which is probably the best-known work by title. In
2000, an introduction to philosophy that I
personally really love, Cultural History of Cultural
Studies, and now, in 2005, the first volume of
Music and Mathematics with the subtitle Hellas:
Aphrodite, of which there are still most likely four
volumes to comebut who knows how many
therell be, it could be seven, I dont think its
been decided yet. He has co-authored many
books, and written many, many essays; from the
published works Ill only mention Computer as
Medium from Fink Verlag, Turing, the non-
mathematical writings, I think the subtitle was
writings about the Turing machine and thoughts
about the computer. And a very famous work,
The Expulsion of the Spirit from the Humanities, a
work that has not succeeded, so to speak. That
demand has unfortunately not really been met,
but Friedrichs great achievement is surely that,
in many ways, he reoriented the humanities and
reopened the bridge to other sciences. The
unfortunate closure of that bridge, which came
from [Wilhelm] Dilthey and our university as well,
and had disastrous effects, has been somewhat
overcome. Looking more closely, you sometimes
have to ask whether just the names have been
switched, but for many people, doors have
opened to make other work possible. Today it
can be seen that the humanities comprise more
than just spirit.
Friedrich Kittler
A very good evening, ladies and gentlemen,
sweet Ladies, dear Gentlemen, but Ill speak
German. Thank you, Wolfgang Coy for the lovely
introduction and, above all, for connecting the
last two names, Homer and Andreas SchillerI
had to switch gears for a moment until I realized
that Andreas Stiller is, of course, the founding
editor of ct at Heise Verlag in Hannover.
Thank you.
Wolfgang Coy
Yes, thank you so much. If anyone wants to step
out, you can do it now. And for those remaining
there is an opportunity to ask questions; we have
microphones in the hall. I dont know what its
like in the back, it might be a bit difficult, but well
just start. So we have about forty minutes to talk
about this topic. Would anyone like to ask a
question or make a comment? Or is everyone so
completely satisfied that weI think, over there
was there somebody? Yes. I thought it was
somebody wanting to ask, but people arent out
yet.
Friedrich Kittler
And what does this do...? Hello?
Wolfgang Coy
I dont know.
Friedrich Kittler
I didnt quite get the first part of the question
unfortunately, because of the technical issues.
Audience member
I mean, is it only that machines brought an
extension to humans to execute the algorithms?
But if we consider the fact that we can exchange
algorithms much more freely nowadays and
basically they grow out of what Pierre Lvy or
other philosophers define as collective
intelligencede Kerckhove and so onwhat do
you see that has changed in the history of
algorithms? And what is changed andthis is
pretty recent, no? is the way, really, to
exchange the ingredients? Im not really a
historian of mathematics as you are, so Im pretty
curious about your vision compared to the
Abbasid dynasty once when Muammad al-
Khwrizm was forging those algorithms and now
passing through all the various stages of human
developments in terms of science.
Friedrich Kittler
Yes, yes, yes. Ive got it now.
Wolfgang Coy
I mean, if no one has a question at the moment, I
would like to respond. The exciting thing is, yes,
on one hand the machine confronts us as our
own product, but one that engulfs us, and in
many respects reveals us faster than we can see
ourselves in the mirror. But, on the other hand,
this is how I understood the questionwe
experience the networking of machines as a
communicative system simultaneously. So the
special status of the machine, its becoming
independent, which you emphasized, has
nevertheless been weakened in a new
development where this communication can be
unbelievably more diversified than weve ever
experienced in traditional machine
communication. Is that a shift? Have we
experienced a change in the last ten years or is it
just more of the same? Is this ultimately just the
self-sufficiency of the system?
Friedrich Kittler
Actually, if Im being honest, that I would prefer
fewer people be connected through the internet
and more machines to be connected.
Wolfgang Coy
I think that is an opinion, but there was just a
question and I wanted to explain.
Friedrich Kittler
At least, Im more interested inthe best network
Ive ever found is called Farmen, a gigantic
farm of Linux computers, which are unused at
nightbecause their users need to sleep
sometimes, the freaks. The machines simply
continue, and in the end, for films like Titanic,
endless virtual images of sea storms have been
generated that nobody has filmed and which
have never existed; they were computed. That is
the best high-performance computer networking,
I think.
Wolfgang Coy
Well, I would rather they calculate more Zen
prime numbers, but okay, please, they like to
calculate the Titanic too.
Friedrich Kittler
I used that example specifically because it
connects to art and media art. Its not a made-up
story, its true, and I would like for a second to
throw out into this great hall the question of
whether such anonymous, industrial as far as
Im concerned even commercialproducts of
computer art do not deserve our respect?
Wolfgang Coy
I cant see so well with the lights, was there a
question? Yes.
Audience member
Yes.
Wolfgang Coy
Could you stand up so that the audience has a
rough idea of where you are?
Friedrich Kittler
Yes, I would like to try to answer. Twenty-one
years ago, when I wrote that sentence, I wasnt
really interested in theater and play and things
like that, but in the fact that the cable telegraph
played a key role in the war in 18701871, the
early wireless radio in the First World War from
191418, and the battle between radio encoding
machines and British computers (and their
eventual victory) in the Second World War. That
was the situation at that time. The fact that now
every G.I. in the American army has their own
laptop follows the logic of this progression.
Wolfgang Coy
So, we of course have to admit that last week Bill
Gates also thought the end of television was a
possibility. So thats probably settled it.
Friedrich Kittler
That means there is a job for the Helmholtz-
Zentrum as well, when everything works in bits
and bytes and zeros and onesat least works
acceptably to end-users. Then the question
arises of whether there are actually any specific
characteristics of different sense-fields and
media. For example, whether you would have to
trywhich cant possibly be imagined this
eveninga kind of algorithmic minimal
configuration of what a picture is, or what music
is, and not just in the popular neurophysiological
sense that is dominant in the press at the
moment, but also in the sense of an assertion
about a things being. So, I still hope that
Immanuel Kant is wrong that when it comes to
beautyfor beauty at least, if not for the sublime
there are some things that can be
mathematically analyzed in fields like music,
images, sculpture, and architecture, as in the
complexity-theory approaches attempted by
Birkhoff and continued by Max Bense. Are you
skeptical?
Wolfgang Coy
I am skeptical because I dont see it, but Bense
did write a wonderful foreword for his
Informationssthetik. The last sentence says
something like, It may be that none of what we
say works, but if it were to save us from the
dreadful drivel of the culture section in the
papers, that would be a tremendous advance. In
that sense, I would agree.
Audience member
I would like to ask again briefly, in terms of
understanding, and ask you about speculation
from the area that you raised, which is difficult to
respond to. You spoke at the end about Mahler
and about the task of the artist, in order to
demonstrate the eternal in the finite. In a way,
Mahler still belongs to a succession of musicians
who somehow failed at the end, who are unable
to complete their tenth symphony as the pinnacle
and conclusion of their work. And, you would
know more about this, but a pupil of his, like
Schnberg, said in the eulogy, If Mahler had
written the tenth, we would have heard
something that would have changed our world
much more fundamentally. Im wondering why
now, on the topic of algorithms, you refer to this
tradition of failure. Does something resonate with
you in the fact that the Linux computer you
brought upwhich has to be connected before it
can workcould have helped somebody like
Mahler complete this intention in the tenth in a
different way, whether he succeeded or not?
Friedrich Kittler
That is a difficult questionIm not sure what you
mean by failed? Failed as a musician? Failed as
a husband and cuckold? Dying of a broken heart,
as it were, because of that woman?
Wolfgang Coy
But still prominently immortalized in her
biography, so
Friedrich Kittler
Could you not answer that, from the first sketch
of the first movement, it was almost finished, and
the drafts for the other movements of Mahlers
tenth symphony, which so many good musicians
tried to complete over the last 80 years since his
deaththat something like a structure emerges,
which is not a failure, but calls for its completion?
This is not something that every building, work,
film, or piece of music does, but large fragments
seem to be able to and would more likely be an
indication that unfinished is a pain in which
something is concealed, as Greek sculptors said
of the veined marble in which Apollo was hidden.
As far as beauty and art are concerned, I would
at least try to maintain this semi-platonic
perspectivethat there are responsibilities there,
which have already been written into Mahlers
fragments. There is just musical logic, a notion
firmly held by no less than Adorno.
Wolfgang Coy
But when you mention marble, and go back to
your lecture, then all completed music is within
pi. We only have to reveal it.
Friedrich Kittler
So then lets start looking now.
Wolfgang Coy
Yes.
Friedrich Kittler
So, Ill take that lovely example again from
Against the Day, Pynchons last novel, because
nobody actually knows it. The (sex-) heroine of
the novel, this Russian mathematician, believes
more so than her teacher, David Hilbert in
Gttingenthat information about prime
numbers and their seeming chaos is so encoded
in the Zeta function that we become acquainted,
so to speak, with physical constants. So bold is
the lady of the novel. And then the novel
becomesand this is not uninteresting in
discussions of art and poetryso recursive that it
starts thinking about itself: I am a historical
novel. I am set before the First World War and
describe what everything is like during the
catastrophe of the First World Warand how,
above all, the grandiose powers of European
anarchism are destroyed between high-
capitalism and Bolshevism. One-half of the world
is capitalist and the other half is Bolshevist. I am
a novel that knows and perceives more than just
the coarsest features of history, not like the silly
historical novels a l Gustav Freytag or Felix
Dahn. I am a novel that does everything right. The
taxis that drive armies to the Battle of the Marne,
and so on.
Wolfgang Coy
Well have to wait a bit until all 1,085 pages have
been processed but I think there is another
question.
Audience member
Hello, I have an educational question. You gave a
very dense kind of introduction to the
mathematical philosophy behind computation.
How important is it, in your opinion, for an artist
or media theorist dealing with computers,
computer culture, and the effect that computers
have on our perception, to have this kind of
background, this kind of education? How deep
does a computer artist, net artist or media artist
need to go into mathematical theory, in order to
be able to say something real or unreal about the
way we are being affected?
Friedrich Kittler
Nice question. I dont want to make rules for
media and net artists, and Id like first to be a bit
critical of my profession or vocation. Professors
of media history or media theory who have never
used even a little Pascal algorithm or have never
unscrewed the cover of their machineI simply
dont trust them. And I can only offer a report on
what its like for media artists. Ten years ago I
was at a computer art exhibition in Chicago, at a
cold lake in the Windy Cityand it was
depressing to see how many HTML applications
were being presented as great computer art.
Thats something that anyone could do now.
Wolfgang Coy
So, if there are no more questions, I think this
meditative element would make quite a nice
conclusion. But if there are still any pressing
questions, that I cant see well from up here
because the light is veryyes, theres another
question.
Audience member
I still have one question. When I listen to you talk,
I wonder why you seem to doubt the artist.
Because, yes, that is very to the point, of course,
but when you say that there was a blues guitar
that learns to play perfect blues by the evening,
and that behind Mahlers composition there is
nothing but an algorithmif, with more powerful
computers, this principle could be expanded or
extrapolated, it could be possible to produce
almost any kind of art with a machine. Are you
telling these people that theyre going to be
unemployed in a hundred years?
Friedrich Kittler
Could you say the last sentence again?
Audience member
Are you telling these people herewell, these
people will all probably be dead in a hundred
yearsbut their childrenthat as artists they will
be unemployed? Will art as a human endeavor no
longer exist? Its provocatively formulated, but I
cant help wondering.
Friedrich Kittler
I cant help wondering either, but I would like to
make a distinction between unpredictable
conceptual discoveries in art, or even in
mathematics, and the sort of applications that we
are all capable of. A simple example: you can
teach people to draw or paint pictures in correct
perspective, but it took a certain brilliant Leon
Battista Alberti to come up with the idea of
geometric perspective construction in the first
place, which then defined all the paintings in
Europe for 400 yearsuntil just before Picasso
and George Braque. And I think this form of
opening doors, doors of perception as Jim
Morrison as others before him spoke of it, will still
exist in a hundred years, because there is still so
much to solve, also in computer graphics, for
example.
Wolfgang Coy
But you can still practice a bit? So that you can
get there? I mean, there is a certain problem: I
understand your desire for radical change and
new ideas very well, but how do get into a
position to do it? Is there a path leading there?
And doesnt this path possibly consist of digital
stag paintings?
Friedrich Kittler
Didnt you yourself recently
Wolfgang Coy
Stags?
Friedrich Kittler
No, no, no, you spoke positively about the fact
that when quantum computers really work, that
would be a quantum leap. It is not true, as far as
Im aware, that these quantum computers are
simply the fruit of linear technical progress. They
are the result of the explicit, theologically justified
protest of Albert Einstein; they have had powerful
enemies. That is a point that is probably also
relevant as to why the great upheavals arent
more frequent.
Wolfgang Coy
I didnt.
Friedrich Kittler
You didnt?
Audience member
Yes, um, Im not so good at math, so I wont be
able to formulate my remark as a question.
Nevertheless, I have a tiny Johann Sebastian
Bach machine inside me, and when I ride a
bicycle I whistle melodies that are incalculable. I
know the construction principles and, from the
components and new improvisations, it whistles
itself. As every bike ride ends, this game ends
too. It goes on practically independently of me
like here, during the lecture, together with me.
And if I didnt know these famous final notes in
the Art of the Fugue, during which, according to
legend, the pen fell from Bachs hand, the end of
every bike ride and the corresponding stopping
of this little Bach-whistling machine would be
incredibly unsatisfactory.
Friedrich Kittler
To that, I can only say, Yes, yes, yes, like Molly
Bloom in the last sentence of a certain novel.
Wolfgang Coy
And because that is the last sentence of a certain
novel, could we take that as an indication that it
was perhaps also the last sentence of this event?
Or is there still an urgent need to speak?
Friedrich Kittler
I could live with that very happily, if you can too.
Wolfgang Coy
Then, our thanks to Friedrich and the audience.
We thank the audience for not going for blood,
and I wish you a pleasant evening.
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