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(910-990)
(Rmaji:) Tzan Shusho 
 

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<TD><a href="#m">Tung-san
Sou-csu mondsaibl</a> 
Fordtotta: Terebess Gbor </TD>
<TD><a
href="#a">"Living Words and Dead Words"</a> 
Translated by Chang Chung-yuan </TD>
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size="3">"Living Words and Dead Words" 
(From The Transmission of the Lamp, Chan 23) 
Translated by Chang Chung-yuan 
In: <a href="Original.pdf" target="_blank">Original Teachings of Ch'an
Buddhism</a>. New York: Random House, 1969. pp. 296-201. 
CH'AN Master
Shou-ch'u Tsung-hui of Tung-shan in Hsiang-chou[41] visited Yn-men, who asked
him: "Where have you come from recently?" 
"From Ch'a-tu." 
"Where were you during the summer?" 
"I was in the Pao-tzu Monastery in Hunan." 
"When did you leave there?" 
"In the eighth month of last year." 
"I absolve you from thirty blows!" 
The next day Tung-shan went to question Master Yn-men, saying,
"Yesterday you were pleased to release me from thirty blows, but I do not
know what my fault was." 
"Oh, you rice-bag! This is the way you wander from the west of the River to
the south of the Lake!"[42] 
When Tung-shan heard this, he was suddenly enlightened.
When Tung-shan
had become an abbot himself, a monk asked him, "What is that path which is
very remote?" 
He replied: "One does not want to go out on a fine day, but postpones it
until the rain is falling heavily on one's head." 
 
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Monk: "Who are all the wise men?" 
Master: "Those who get into mud and water."
Monk:
"Before mind exists, where are things?" 
Master: "The lotus leaves move without a breeze, so there must be fish
swimming by."
"Master! When you ascend to your lion-seat,[43] please sing a song of
Tao!" 
Master: "During the dry season the irrigation ditches are dredged. There
is no need of a waterworks office, as there is no flood." 
Monk:
"Such being the case, may I thank you for your instruction?" 
Master: "The old woman who sells shoes walks fast."
Monk: "What
are the Three Precious Ones?"[44] 
Master: "It is beyond discussion."
is the seamless pagoda?" 
Master: "The stone lion at the crossroads."
is the Dharma that is free from life and death?" 
Master: "It is what you look at but do not take, though you have longed
for it for three years."
Monk: "Free
yourself from mental activity and perception and then say a word!" 
Master: "The Taoist priest wearing a yellow robe sitting in an earthen
jar."
Monk: "I
just happen to have come back to visit you. Please say a word!" 
Master: "How can one say anything when one has arrived
there?"
"Please say what is revealed in meditation." 
Master: "I will absolve you from thirty blows." 
Monk: "Where is it that I am at fault?" 
Master: "A crime may not be punished twice."
is the lotus blossom before it comes out of the water?" 
Master: "The top of Mount Ch'u[45] when it is turned upside
down." 
Monk: "What is it after it comes out of the water?" 
Master: "The River Han[46] follows its course and flows
eastward."
is the sharpest sword, which cuts a hair blown against its edge?" 
Master: "The visitor from Chin-chou."[47]
A nun asked,
"How is it when the cart stops but the cow does not?" 
Master: "What is the use of a driver?"
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is the duty required of a Ch'an monk?" 
Master: "When the clouds envelop the top of Mount Ch'u, there will be a
heavy rainstorm."
Monk: "How
will it be when all the water in the sea is gone, and all the men in the world
have passed away?" 
Master: "It is very hard to be like that!' 
Monk: "How is it to be just that way?" 
Master: "The clouds are in the sky, and water is in the
vase."[48]
is it when being and non-being both disappear and both temporal and real are
forgotten?" 
Master: "The top of Mount Ch'u when it is turned upside down." 
Monk: "Is it possible for me to understand this?" 
Master: "There is a way." 
Monk: "Please tell me the way." 
Master: "It is one thousand miles and ten thousand
miles."
Monk: "How
about Niu-t'ou before he saw the Fourth Patriarch?" 
Master: "A staff of chestnut wood." 
Monk: "What was he after his interview?" 
Master: "Tou-pa's[50] cotton garment."
is Buddha?" 
Master: "Obviously, correct."
is the state in which all causation has completely ceased?" 
Master: "The stone man inside the earthen jar sells date
candies."
is the sword of Tung-shan?" 
Master: "Why?" 
The monk persisted, "I want to know." 
Master: "Blasphemy!" 
 
Monk: "To give no attention to heaven and earth and to have no concern
for the universe - this is my attitude. How about you?" 
Master: "Around the pavilion on Hsien-shan[51] the mist is rising; the
foreshore is steep and the boat cannot linger."
Monk: "Now
the audience is all gathered together here. Please point out the essence of
Ch'an, and tell us its general principles." 
Master: "Bubbles on the surface of the water reflect all kinds of color;
frogs from the depth of the pond croak under the bright 
moonlight."
Monk: "At
this very moment, where are Manjusri and Samantabhadra?" 
Master: "The elder's age is eighty-one. Such a tree does not grow
mushrooms." 
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Monk: "What is the meaning of this?" 
Master: "In the first place, it is not possible; in the second place, it
is not of the right kind."
In the seventh
month of the first year of Shun-Hua (990) the Master, without illness, seated
himself with his legs crossed, and passed away. [52]
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41. Now
Hsiang-yang, a town on the Han River in northwestern Hupeh Province. 
42. The Yangtze River and the Pan-yang Lake. 
43 Tradition holds Buddha the lion among men. The place where he sits is
called the simhasana, or lion-seat. 
44 The Triratna: Buddha, Dharma, Sangha (monk). 
45 A mountain in northern Hupeh Province. 
46. The Han River has its source in southern Shensi Province, then flows
southeastward and enters the Yangtze in Hupeh Province. 
47 Now An-k'ang, a town on the Han River in southern Shensi Province. 
48. This was the statement made by Yo-shan Wei-yen (751-834) when he
interviewed Li Ao, a great neo-Confucianist and also Governor of Lang-chou. 
49 Tao-hsin (580-651). 
50. "Tou-pa" is a name for rural folk. 
51. Mount Hsien, south of Hsiang-yang, Hupeh Province. 
52. Records of Pointing at the Moon, Chan 21.
 
 
 

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 Tung-san
Sou-csu sszegyjttt mondsaibl 
Fordtotta: Terebess Gbor 
V.: Folyik a hd, Officina Nova, Budapest, 1990, 109-110. oldal 
 Hogy
fordulhat el, hogy a szekr megll, de az kr megy tovbb? krdezte egy
apca. 
Mire val a hajcsr? krdezte Tung-san Sou-csu. 
 Mieltt
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ltezett volna a tudat, hol voltak a trgyak? 
Ha szlcsendben rezegnek a ltuszlevelek, biztos hal szkl mellettk
mondta Tung-san. 
 Milyen
ktelessgei vannak egy csan szerzetesnek? 
Ha a Csu-hegy stt felhkbe borul, vihar kzeledik mondta Tung-san
Sou-csu. 
 Mikor
sznik meg minden oksgi viszony? 
A cserpkorsban csrg kember jujubval tlttt stemnyt rul mondta
Tung-san Sou-csu. 
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width="307" height="409"> 
Lacza Mrta illusztrcija
s festmnye 
 Mi a
tvoli svny? krdezte egy szerzetes. 
Amg szp id van, hzdozunk kimenni, mire pedig rfanyalodunk, es ztatja
el a fejnk mondta Tung-san Sou-csu. 
 Mi a
Buddha? krdezte egy szerzetes. 
Hrom fontnyi len mondta Tung-san Sou-csu. 
 A
hallgatsg sszegylt jelentette ki egy szerzetes. Krlek, mutass r a csan
lnyegre, s sorold fel az alapelveit. 
A habokon tkrzdik a szivrvny minden szne mondta Tung-san Sou-csu ,
a t mlyn bkk brekegik a fnyes holdat. 






 


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