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Today I faced with this car and his got crazy CAN
network. In his madness he don very funny stuff
like wont crank, shows up some crazy stuff until
the diagnostics like cannot communicate with
four wheel drive module or no steering assistant module present and so on, even they have no R$ 90 R$ 99 R$ 259
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For first I will say some basic stuff about the CAN network protocol. CAN or Controller Area Network
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What you have to know is, in automotive industries in most case the network cables twisted
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together. No matter is it a CAN or a LIN network wiring.
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Here you can see how a CAN network is builds up. The nodes are a module in the car. The modules
are the masters of the car electronic devices. You have modules for ABS, engine management No Tuning In Philips
module, entertainment module etc. Therefore, you have to know on which module you wish to do TV Repaired
some settings or diagnostics. There are resistors on each end of the CAN bus which values are ...
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Today every car has a DLC or Data Link Connector whit 16 pins. This is not the case on trucks.
On a 16 pin DLC you have to use the pin 5, pin 6 and pin 14. Where pin 5 is GND, pin 6 is CAN-H
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Lets see how can we do a simple measuring on the CAN bus. Course
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First I disconnect the car battery and measure the resistance between the CAN-H and CAN-L. Repair Guide For
The resistance should be around 60 but it could be between 50-70. If it is outside of this range Part Number: 03L
then you have some problem on the CAN line. Maybe a shorten to ground, positive voltage or 128 063 B V110
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My next step is to hook up my DSO probe CH1 to CAN-H and CH2 to CAN-L or CH1 to pin-6 and
CH2 to pin-14 on the DLC. The probe croco clips should be grounded. Adjust the scope around
20-50uS and the voltage to 5v. AOC 2219VG 22
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Now you should see some square waves on the scope like this:
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The blue waves are the CAN-H and the red are the opposite CAN-L signal of the CAN-H.
If you see something like a sine wave, or some square waves are left out or so then you have a
problem in the CAN network which can be the faulty behavior of the other modules in the vehicle. LIKE US ON FACEBOOK
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Some models of cars have a diagnostic unit integrated into the cars gateway or between the DLC
and the car electronic.
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If you try to measure the resistance and the message flow on the CAN network then you will got
nothing. You will get maybe a sine wave on the scope. Do not spend lot of your time to figure out
why the signals not met the signals of CAN protocols. Try to figure out how is build up the
communication between the targeted car DLC and the Gateway unit in the car.
This mean, the pin-6 and pin-14 on the DLC are still the CAN-H and CAN-L line but the diagnostic
control unit which, is integrated, will not send any message out to the DLC pins without a request.
After a request was sent through the DLC pin-6 and pin-14 the diagnostic unit will transmit the Wo rd Pre s s
message to the CAN network through the car and send out the result to the DLC. When the
message was sent out, and no other request is requested the communication will be ended until a
+5
new request arrive.
When I connected my scope to the DLC I got this signal which is exactly the case I explained
before where the CAN bus network is interrupted to send out traffic to the DLC.
If you see a signal like this and this is coming from the CAN network without the diagnostic module
between the DLC and the CAN internal network then you have a faulty CAN network.
Otherwise, you have to send a request to the diagnostic interface.
Here is a schematic how the DLC and the control unit is wired up in my case of the VW Polo:
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Here you can see the original VW Polo comfort module, which did the problem in my case.
It is located under the dashboard on the driver side.
What can you do if you figure out does your CAN is interrupted on the DLC? Simple stick your
scope probe to another place. No matter where, it should be the CAN wire. Maybe you have a CAN
bus wire in the door or the audio equipment or the ECU ( Electronic Control Unit ) for the engine.
Figure it out what is for you the best place. Check in some database or schematic what is the exact
color of the CAN bus wire.
After I connected the probe to the CAN bus on the Comfort module I saw there was some error in
the communication. After a few hour of checking the wirings I found out does one of the wire was
pulled out from the connector under the dash board where the ABS module was and exactly the CAN
bus wire. I cant take a picture about the faulty wiring because it was too deep in the dashboard and
no way to go into whit my camera. Sorry
After I put the wire back into his place the CAN bus network was working again. Now, I had to check
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I hope this tutorial will be helpful and save lot of repair time.
This article was prepared for you by Christian Robert Adzic from Novi Knezevac-Serbia.
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10 COMMENTS
Agustin Lalu
November 9, 2015 at 12:44 pm
Very interesting thank you very much for the great idea on how the can bus communicate
great job!!!!!!
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Muftah
Hi Christian, that is very informative, thanks a lot for sharing it, by the way, i was asked by
many people about damaged Tachograph VDO 1324 recorder , but too little information i
found in internet, i appreciate your help Christan,
best regards
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Allan
Hi Christian, I so much like your diagnostic repair. This is real great stuff.
Thanks so much.
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Albert van Bemmelen

Great info Christian (or Chris?)! I hope that VW didn't program anything lawfully wrong into
the system you described if you know what I mean. As they probably are known now for the
wrong reasons. (And VW still also being the biggest car manufacturer in Europe. I always
thought them of the car with the engine that always starts, no matter how cold the weather!).
When you began your article with the line: "this network was constructed so they can manage
digital messages between microcontrollers or devices through two wires and do not need any
host computer", it immediately made me think of the I2C interface bus that was invented by
the people of Philips one year earlier in 1982 (this protocol handles handshaking
communication on Master and Slave devices with lines SDA and SCL <= being Serial Data
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Humberto
November 10, 2015 at 1:36 am
Hi Chris, very informative your tutorial, and the images are great. Congrats. and keep up.
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Suranga Electronics
good Repairs. thanks you.

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Yogesh Panchal
Thanks for informative article.

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Parasuraman S
Though this is not in the line of my interest (I mean, crouching and probing into automobiles
etc.) your article is packed with technical information, some of which is incomprehensible for
me, let me admit! Great work, all the best!
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Robert Calk
Nice job, Chris.

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Gerry Millward
Whew - alien stuff Christian! I'm glad I work on simple things like PCs!
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