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Ty: Hi, this is Ty Bollinger. I want to tell you my story about how
cancer has affected my family. 1996 I visited my father. My wife
Charlene and I visited mom and dad at their house and we didnt
know he was sick. He had had stomach aches, no other physical
symptoms really at that point. He doubled over in pain that night
and we took him to the hospital. It was in San Antonio, Texas. A
few hours later the doctor had gone in for surgery. They thought it
was gallstones. The doctor came out and said that dad had cancer
and it was all over his stomach. So we asked the doctor what
should we do? And he said we should take his whole stomach out,
we should remove it. So we did.
And then over the course of the next 25 days my dad bled to death
from the surgery19 blood transfusions in 25 days. He died on
July 25th, 1996. That was my introduction into cancer and into,
what I call the cancer industry. After dad died, within the next
seven years I lost my grandfather, my other grandfather, my
grandmother, an uncle, and a cousin to cancer. Then in 2004 was
the straw that broke the camels back, my mother died of cancer.
And interestingly, for many years I had been researching natural
cancer treatments but at that point when youre thrown into the
mix and you really just dont know what to do, there were so many
relatives there. The surgeon was frantic. The doctor that treated
mom was a close family friend. And he said we need to cut to her
stomach out, the same thing they did with my father. So they did,
we did. We opted for surgery. And unfortunately mom died of a
stroke several months later that most likely resulted from the
surgery.
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Ty: I am going to miss you because Ive got to travel and Im going
to be gone for a while.
Charlene Bollinger: You know, well miss you too. We love you. And if
youre mom and dad could see this they would just be so proud of you.
Ty: And how can you declare a war on something that you dont
know what it is?
G. Edward Griffin: You dont even know what it isyes. Well, Im not
saying that Im smarter than anybody else but I am going to say that
when I talked to the doctors and the researchers who advocate
alternative therapies their answers as to what cancer is made a lot of
sense to me, much more sense than anything that you would get from
the other side, from the so-called Orthodox field. These men and
women believe thatwell, let me start off with the traditional view and
now we have to rephrase that word traditional. The present Orthodox
view is that cancer is a lump or a bump. Thats the cancer. And if
thatsthats the assumption. Now if that is true then to get rid of cancer
all you have to do is get rid of the lump or the bump. And hence we
have surgery.
Well, that gets rid of the lump or the bump, or we have chemotherapy,
which poisons the lump or the bump if we got rid of it. Or, we have
radiation which burns it and got rid of it. And you undergo these three
therapies. And to get rid of the lump or the bump the doctor will say it
looks like we got it all, that famous line, we got it all. But did they? No.
statistics show that in most cases it comes back. They didnt get it all
because that was never the cancer in the first place. If youre a farmer
and you see all these little black spots on your corn leaves and you
think, oh, those are black spots. Thats the disease and you get the
scissors out and you cut all the black spots away, you know. Well, we
got it all, right? No, you didnt because that wasnt the disease. What
caused those black spots is still present.
And so the same thing these men believe the alternative doctors
believe. They are more concerned with what caused the lump or the
bump. And so they start looking at the body as a whole. And they
believe therefore that cancer is not caused by something. It is caused by
the lack of something a whole different perspective. The lack of
something, a breakdown in the bodys normal ability to remain healthy.
They believe that cancer is really a natural process. Its related to the
healing processan oversimplification, you might say, that cancer is
nothing but healing gone awry.
If I were to scratch my hand now just then with that thumbnail I probably
scraped off, oh I don't know, hundreds of cells. Right now already my
body is responding to that and is sending signals out, chemical signals
and electrical signals, and a lot of electricity in the body, and its
triggering the mechanism to start growing new cells. This is natural. This
is the healing process. When those cells are finally replaced they will
send signals out and the body says, uh-huh, thats enough, stop now.
But now if the signals are not working right because of the chemical
imbalance or some toxic intervention of some kind, the signals are not
working right, now it doesnt say stop healing. So it just continues to
heal and heal and over heal and finally we have that famous lump or
bump. And we say, ah, its cancer. No. Thats a symptom of the cancer.
The cancer is why didnt the signals work? Theres something wrong
with the signaling mechanism and thats sort of the difference between
the orthodox view and the alternative doctors view of what cancer is.
Ty: I also wanted to get the opinion of a medical doctor so I hit the
road for Amarillo, Texas and Dr. Roby Mitchell. So let me ask you
this Dr. Roby, what is cancer?
Look at the DNA of these cells, the DNA is normal DNA but theres just
a lot of them. I mean like you would have a callous on your hand, right, if
you were working hard youd build up a callous. So those cells are not
cancer cells, theyre normal cells but theres a lot more of them than
normally because its trying to protect itself. Well, in the colon that
happens to be a polyp, right. So in the colon there is this polyp. It
happens, again, in the hyperplasia, right, more cells than normal. And
that is the first stage. That polyp then will go onto another transitional
stage, right, what we call neoplastic stage and then that willif that
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situation stays there then it will go on to cancer, right. So this is why its
really helpful for us to understand this concept because if that red light
comes on, if you were down in the coal mine and one of those canaries
dies, right, then its a signalyou have a chance, right, to get out of that
situation. So if theres a polyp, if theres benign prosthetic hyperplasia, if
there is fiber adenoma in the breast, if theres just what we call Barretts
esophagus in the esophagus, right, those are all red flags, right, telling
us that theres a toxic situation thats making these cells try to move into
a cell form that will be able to survive a toxic environment.
Ty: [Dr. Keith], before the interview today you were telling me
about a story, I think it was Broughton Hospital.
Dr. Keith Scott Mumby: Oh yeah, well, we are talking about cancer,
arent we?
Ty: Yes.
Dr. Keith Scott Mumby: And Ive foundI mean I do a lot of research.
I read a lot of stuff. I kind of have this sort of encyclopedia retention
thing, which is very useful at times. But, you know, I love following
pathways, side pathways particularly. And I was looking at early cases
of cancer at the Broughton Hospital in Western London and I found a
very interesting report. One of the consultant physicians there was
taking his group of medical students to see this case. And he said, now
look, first of all, its a cancer case, which is very rare. You wont see
many cancer cases but this is a rare form of cancer. You probably will
never see this again. And you know what it was Ty? It was lung cancer
which is now the number one worlds killer. So that was back in
Victorian times.
You know, theycancer was virtually unknown then anyway but todays
number one killer was exceptionally rare. Whats changed in our world?
Well, of course, we all know its lifestyle basically which covers
everything from how we live to what we eat and so on--just such major
shocking changes that its gone from that to being the number one killer.
That was a very interesting story. And I started to look for, you know,
why would the Victorians be different? And the answer is they ate a lot
of food that on average there were no busses and cabs and nobody had
their own vehicles in those days so they walked literally. I mean the
average Victorian walked more than 20 miles a day which gave them a
lot of calories to burn so they could eat a lot of food to make up and that
meant they got lots of antioxidants and nutrients and phyto-nutrients and
all the other good things that we like.
So it fits our present model. And I think its a good sort of moral story
that if you do it rightthis is one of the things I teach Ty is that cancer is
not native to humans. You know, if you go back to primitivewell, we
can say primitive, but you know, early aboriginal type societies. Cancer
is virtually unknown. Its a disease of modern man. And as I like to say
its notit isits you. You know, cancer is not some alien thing that
was dumped in your body from a spaceship or something. Its you, its
your body kind of gone a bit wrong. And if you fix things your body will
restore its health. Its not a runaway train that cannot be stopped. I
mean, yes, its a runaway but you can put the brakes on and then
reverse it and then you see that a lot of costs, I mean a number of
natural cures now are so vast youd have to be blind or dumb not to see
whats going on and not to realize that orthodox medicine isnt hitting the
bar at all.
oncologists are keeping their mouths shut. They use the chemo, they
use the radiation, and radiation causes cancer. Mammograms cause
cancer. We know that. Medical research, the medical journals prove it
and yet they still do it. Whereas sonography and ultrasound can be very
beneficial without the violent side effects of annual mammograms and
squeezing the breasts. Guess what happens if theres a tumor there.
Youre squeezing it through the body. its insanity. So the medical
profession, in my opinion, is as corrupt as any third world nation and this
country is allowing it. And the reason its allowing it is because
subsequent to the Roosevelt administration that agencies that were
designed to protect humanity are protecting the industry theyre
supposed to protect us from.
Ty: Wow! That just blows my mind every time I hear it. Its a
continual theme that I got along this journey.
Ty: [Robert], I saw you recently on Fox News. You talked about a
monopoly of modern medicine. And you talkedyou went into
history of modern medicine. If you could for the viewers here go
into a brief five minute history of modern medicine, how did we get
to where we are today?
Dr. Robert Scott Bell: Yeah. This is an interesting thing, the history
that is not taught. And part of my interest in this subject, not only
because of my own health challenges, but once I uncovered the fact
that I was lied to about my health and my body and health and medicine
in general I began to question just about everything that I was taught.
And as I uncovered these different areas of inquiry I found out, indeed,
theres an official story about these things including the official story of
modern medicine.
Were raised as if its always been here. its always been this way and
the only doctors you could consult are medical doctors that prescribe
patent medicines approved by the federal food and drug administration
that I often call the fear and death administration because of the
promotion of products that are, in fact, the leading cause of death, not
the third or second, but the first, in fact, when you start taking it all into
account. So looking back at the history I became intrigued as to how did
we get here? How did we get here? And that opened up a huge can of
worms. Now as a homeopath eventually I became, I learned about
many things in history that we were not taught including the fact that in
the Civil War, the war between the states, some describe it as a war of
And so there was a whole history that was hidden from me. Now
eventually I was introduced to Harris Coulter. He wrote a series of books
called, Divided Legacy. I mean these are books you can work out with,
you can become big like you Ty. And its just incredible the history that
was hidden from us about the schism between what we call
homeopathic and naturopathic thought forms versus allopathic thought
forms where they poison the body using mercury and different things.
And thats where Dr. Samuel Hahnemann who was a physician in his
day in the late 18th and early 19th century determined that the medicine
that he was giving his patients was more harmful than the disease. And
he couldnt stomach that and thats where he was motivated to develop
a system that became a broad based worldwide system called
homeopathy utilizing small quantities or amounts of naturally occurring
substances from the mineral, animal and plant kingdoms.
And in this way there was growth around the world out of Germany of
this new form of medicine. Now eventually there was a schism because
there was an emerging field of, what we call, patent petrochemical
medicines based on the Rockefeller type oil monopoly that already
established in the energy sector that was growing. They started finding
out through organic chemistry that they can alter these oil-based
molecules into all kinds of things. And they developed these patented
drugs or drug molecules.
Now these were very profitable. But in order for the public to accept
them because theyre quite honestly theyre poison they would have to
take control of the education system. and at the time of the late 1800s
and early 1900s, 20th century, medical schools taught a lot of different
things. There were homeopathic medical schools, there were
naturopathic schools, there eclectic herbal type medicine schools. And
so it was all there. There was not one way. And what happened was
that the Rockefeller and Carnegie Foundations were interested in
establishing the one way.
How would they do that? Well, they would get a hold of the education
system and create a medical monopoly via basically eliminating all
competition to patent, petrochemical, medical education. Thats the
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KC Craichy: And Jeffrey Bland gave a talk this weekend and hes the
founder of functional medicine. The guys brilliant. And he was saying
that he has always been blasted about your stuffs not double blind
placebo controlled and I only practice scientific medicine. And he finally
says he got to the point where he says to the doctor, let me ask you this
question, and youll be honest with me, right? Well agree that Im a little
bit on the outskirts of what youre talking about as scientific medicine.
But let me ask you this question. Have you ever prescribed a patient a
drug who is already on four other drugs? Oh, of course! And could you
point me to a study that showed that a patient population on those five
drugs? Well, I had this study for this drug and this. No, thats not what I
said. Could you show me a patient population that has been studied on
those five drugs? And the answer is of course not. In fact, I was told by
a Dr. Scott Hannen about a study hes sent me here recently that theres
a study out that says that if youre on five or more medications it is
So thats why its all a guessing game. They give a drug for this and a
drug for that and then you end up giving drugs for the symptoms caused
by drugs. And its reallyits an awful spiral. Now theres a place for
some drugs sometimes but I generally think of them as a band-aid to get
people over a hump before they can figure out how to get their body
responding like its supposed to. Even in this weekends presentations
down in Miami they were showing research that saidnow, first of all,
the patients do not die of cancer. Seldom do they die of cancer. They
die of complications from cancer treatment. Okay. Thats just what
happens.
Dr. Rashid Buttar: Cancer is not the problem. Cancer is the symptom.
If you want to look at it from a car analogy--I don't know why everybody
seems to understand analogies when we use carscancer is a flashing
light on the dashboard. And the reason chemo and radiation and
surgery dont work is because everybodys taking a hammer. Theyre
taking a hammer to that flashing light on the dashboard and thats
Ty: The check engine lightthe check engine light youre talking
about
Dr. Rashid Buttar: Exactly! The checking engine light, the flashing
thats saying theres a problem with the engine. So everybody says I can
fix that and theyre hitting that light but thats not going to fix the engine.
So my question to patients is very simple, if you took your car to a
mechanic and there was a flashing check engine light on your car and
the mechanic says, yeah, I can fix that and takes the fuse out, okay, and
says, okay, now your problem is solved. Or, Ive got a knocking in my
engine. Okay. Well here, turn up the radio. Do you hear it now? Well, I
can kind of still hear it. Here, put some ear muffs on. Yeah, no. Now I
dont hear it. Okay. Perfect! You havent done anything to the engine.
But youve
Dr. Rashid Buttar: Exactly! And thats the question that when you
ask a person the logical answer is, yeah, Id fire the mechanic. So then
why arent they firing the doctors because thats exactly what the
doctors are doing. Theyve got a problem, theyre covering it up with a
drug to cover up the symptoms so the person doesnt feel or experience
the negative which is the bodys own mechanism of information saying,
hey, caution, theres a problem. And thats what cancer is. Its a caution.
Cancer is a problem that is telling you that theres a real problem but its
a problem that is like a slap in the face. Its not somebody saying, hey,
wake up. Its more like a punch to the face saying, wake up, but people
sometimes dont get that and they start to panic and they do more worse
things for their own body, i.e.and we can go into the details of this if
you want to, but you know what Im talking about where theyre starting
toradiations bad for any healthy person.
But thats not the case. Why? Because they seem to think that taking a
drug and covering up a symptom is a better option. You got a pile of
horse manure in your hair. What are you going to do? Well, the logical
thing would be take the manure out and get rid of it. But instead they put
a carpet down. Well, its still kind of lumpy. Then they flatten it. Well, I
can still smell it. And then they spray some air freshener here. This is
like one drug over another drug over another drug over another drug
trying to deal with the symptom side effects of the first drug and the
second drug, third drug. And finally theyre like the person just
deteriorates. No matter what you say when you put a carpet over that
manure, you spray air freshener, you put perfume out there, you burn a
match, whatever the case is, the problem is still there. Youve only
covered it up.
Now if you look at other statistics, what does a cancer patient actually
die of? They usually end up dying from some type of an opportunistic
infectionpneumonia, whatever, urinary tract infection becomes septic,
whatever. They also die of multi organ system failure because the tumor
burden is so great, the system cant keep up with the entire blood
disgraces that result from this. So really when you look at it cancer has
never really killed anybody. Its the sequelae of cancer. Its the
consequences of cancer that actually kill people.
Ty: Dr. Veronique Desaulniers, who cured her own breast cancer
naturally, just told us that chemo has a 2.1 percent success rate
and were looking at five year survival. Thats unbelievable. I
wanted to visit Webster Kerr, also known as the cancer tutor. So I
wanted to see what he had to say about the same topic. So I
caught a flight one early Saturday morning to Kansas city. In your
opinion, talk about the wisdom of using chemotherapy to treat
cancer. Is there a place for chemotherapy?
Webster Kerr: Well, let me put it this way, I work with a lot of cancer
patients who are still using chemotherapy. What I will tell them is before
you go in there well take some MSM, methosulfonylmethane, and some
of that MSM will turn into DMSO. And MSM by itself will open the port to
the cancer cells. And some of them will turn into DMSO and DMSO
open ports to the cancer cells even better. So a little bit of that cancer
chemotherapy will target the cancer cells.
So its kind of to make chemotherapy a little bit more effective but the
damage is done because they use doses that are very high. And so it
kills a lot of good cells and it doesnt target the cancer cells. As you may
know the five year cure rate for chemotherapy radiation and surgery is
about 2.1 percent. And if you took non-Hodgkins lymphoma out it would
be less than that. NHL and Hodgkins disease are really the only two
kinds of cancers that do respond fairly well to chemotherapy. But most
of the major types of cancer do not respond well to chemotherapy at all.
Ian Jacklin: Unfortunately in the western would right now almost all
medical systems whether it be Canada, Europe, America, our doctors
are only allowed to do chemo, radiation, and surgery when it comes to
treating cancer patients. And we know that chemotherapy does not work
for stem cells, the cancer stem cells. We know radiation makes the
cancer stem cells worse. So I don't know why either one of those would
be used. Surgery could be used on occasion if theres something
blocking maybe an artery or a passageway. But in general, most
cancers can be taken care of holistically without having to use surgery
either. Personally, I would never use chemo, radiation, or surgery for
myself or my family. Ive done too much research and Ive just seen
them. I see the people die in front of me. People get cancer. They do
chemo, radiation, and surgery. It hardly ever works.
We see celebrity headlines all the time. Im cancer free now after having
a tumor cut off, right? Bt the truth is youre not cancer free. You still
have cancer cells in your body. You still have a sick body. You still have
a depleted immune system and its just a matter of time before new
tumors form. And its really sad to watch cancer patients go through this
process of, oh, Im in remission and they think everythings great and
they can go back to normal life. And a few months later they have
another scan and theres a new spot or several. Or, its migrated from
what started as a tiny lump in one breast is now in their brain, in their
liver, spots on their bones, in their lungs. And we know thats from the
chemotherapy. Its causing it to spread. Its making it more aggressive
and its causing secondary cancers in the body.
Ty: Yeah. that was my next question is do you think that its
related to the chemotherapy.
are many chemotherapy drugs that are known carcinogens and listed by
the US National Toxicology Board as carcinogens. They cause cancer.
Ty: Lets hear what another medical doctor has to say. I traveled to
sunny Southern California to talk to Dr. Leigh Erin Connealy.
Whats dangerous about a cancer cell then? If its an out of control
cell why do we fear cancer? What is it about a cancer cell that we
want toif we treated it with conventional medicine we would use
chemotherapy. Why do we want to destroy a cell thats out of
control?
Dr. Leigh Erin Connealy: Well, its interesting that you say that. We
people fear cancer. Its kind of interesting. I always think, okay, theres
lots of chronic illnesses. Theres cancer. Theres heart disease. Theres
diabetes. Theres Alzheimers. Okay. Theyre all very, very serious
challenges to the body. Andbut people fear cancer unlike any other
illness. If someone has a heart attack. Okay. I had a heart attack. I get a
stent. They know they have to make a lifestyle change. They know they
have to. But I would say most people make that lifestyle change. But
people really dont live in fear of that next heart attack. There are a few
people but they feel like they have the safety net of that stent and
theyre going to be okay.
With cancer, I think everyones had a loved one, they have seen the
devastation of the treatments of cancer. And the conventional
treatments are surgery, chemo, and radiation. And the traditional
treatments that weve used over the past 50 years, which were surgery,
chemo, and radiation, they may have worked a little while but now
because of the industrialization of the world we have a lot more
challenges to the human mind and body and frame. And so from the
toxins of the body to our food supply, our water supply, our air, and so
its making all diseases and dysfunctions more challenging. I mean lets
look at autism. Autism was one in 20 thousand years ago. Now its one
I think people have become much more health conscious and aware
because now we have just incredible disease, and not just cancer, in
every area. I mean heard disease, cancer, strokes, everything. Look at
MRSA infection, staph-eating infection. I mean you never heard of that.
Now youits like commonplace. Oh yeah, I just went to the hospital
and had MRSA and got some antibiotics and I think Ive fine. Im not
sure Im fine. Im like what. This is likewhat? This is just not right, so.
But cancer is feared because it is an out of control situation and we do
knowwe have now lots to control the situation.
But all people know from their oncologist is surgery, chemo, and
radiation. And there is something called circulating tumor cells and
circulating stem cells. Okay. Thats a recent discovery and thats what is
responsible for 95 percent of metastases. And so when people get
cancer you want to make sure that those circulating tumor cells and
circulating stem cells which havecan have a very long life, you want to
make sure that those are zero. Now fortunately we have the capacity to
know that number of circulating tumor cells and stem cells. And so
people will know, okay, I dont have cancer. I know for sure because Im
able to do a blood test to know whether I have cancer.
Also, lets face it. The typical doctor, oncologist, or their other primary
care doctor does not entertain a discussion of lifestyle. Okay. An obese
guy walks in the doctor should be telling him that he is full of
inflammation, not full of fat, but full of inflammation and you need to do
something because of this, this, and this, not ignore it, and not just go,
okay, well heres a pill for your blood pressure, and heres a pill for your
cholesterol, and heres a pill for your back pain and Ill see you in a
month and well see if youre maintaining your disease. And thats what
doctors do. They maintain a persons illness. Theyre not making them
better. I mean what iswhat are you doing? That is like not okay.
Youre supposed to create optimal health in people. Thats your job.
Doctor means to teach. Why arent you teaching your patients how to
turn their life around?
And so given that lets just think of the five main reasons why every
cancer patient needs to include nutrition as part of their comprehensive
therapy. Number one, nutrition actually is a big part of the malnutrition.
40 percent of cancer patients die of malnutrition, not of the cancer.
Cancer is a wasting disease. Appetite is affected. You end up in the
hospital with food that youre unfamiliar with. Chemo and radiation can
induce cachexia or lean tissue loss. So malnutrition kills 40 percent of
cancer patients.
nutrition and other things. Number two is that nutrition can help to make
chemo, radiation, and surgery more of a selective therapy. In other
words, chemo and radiation are non-selective toxins. Theyre cytotoxic
poisons. They kill everything in their pathway. And there is what they
call collateral damage. So a patient who is receiving chemo is going to
have a certain amount of hair loss, nausea, vomiting, weight loss, all as
part of the chemo but nutrition can make chemo, radiation, and surgery
more selectively toxic to the tumor and less toxic to the patient.
response modifier in those patients. There are many cancer patients for
whom fish oil, coenzyme Q, lipoic acid, curcumin, theres just a long list
of nutrients, vitamins, minerals, probiotics, glandular extracts, many
different substances that can become powerful therapeutic aids for the
cancer patient to restore their host defense mechanisms because heres
a beauty.
Ty: [Dr. Isaacs], does modern medicine pay too much attention to
drugs and not enough attention to natural types of treatments?
Dr. Linda Isaacs: Yes. Thats the short answer. Yes, thats correct.
And I think a lot of that is how is research funded? Much of research is
funded by the pharmaceutical industry and they, for better or worse,
their goal is to make money for their stock holders. And so their goal is
to develop drugs that can be patented, that can be sold to treat illness.
So theyre funding the research and not unexpectedly then the medical
world is looking for research to know how to treat patients and whats
available is drugs.
And thats whythats how these jobs are created and billions of dollars
are paid out to different individuals and, of course, you know my feeling
on the way the government interacts with corporations. And so thats
why the systems flawed. Thats my opinion. Thats one aspect of it thats
very easy to sink your teeth into and no one can tell me that Im wrong
because its true. Its just a fact. I mean this isnt something thats up for
discussion. This is just pure and simply a fact. No ones interested in
talking to you about losing weight. No ones interested in talking to you
about quitting smoking. We do that a little bit and theres actually codes
for quitting smoking. Theres some little fine nuances there but the
bottom line is theres no real incentive to promote true health and there
is an incentive to write lots of prescription medications by the way the
system is designed.
Ty: When you went through medical school how much nutritional
training did you get?
Ty: Lets head to Austin, Texas and see what Mike Adams, the
Health Ranger, has for us.
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Ty: We are just getting started. This is just day one of seven days.
We learned a lot today. We learned about the history of modern
medicine, the Flexner report. Weve learned about the
ineffectiveness of the big three treatmentschemotherapy,
radiation, and surgery. Weve learned about why doctors treat
symptoms with drugs instead of getting to the root cause. Weve
learned that tumors are just a symptom of cancer and that cutting
them out sometimes is just like smashing a check engine light in
your car. It doesnt fix the underlying imbalance in the body, which
is caused by the immune system. In tomorrows episode were
going to learn all about the immune system. Have you leukocytes
and lymphocytes, macrophages, T-cells B-cells, monocytes,
eosinophils, basophils? Dont be scared by all these big terms.
Were going to break it down for you. Emeril Lagasse likes to kick
it up a notch. Were going to take it down a notch tomorrow so you
can understand your immune system and so you can see how that
you can take this personal cancer fighting army and turn them on
to protect your body from cancer.
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Ty: Alright, so Im here with Kelly and were out in San Diego. And
you were diagnosed with cancer. And so I just want you to share
with the audience here what kind of cancer did you have? What did
you doctor tell you that you needed to do? And what did you do for
it?
Kelly: Okay. So in 2010 I was diagnosed with stage III lobular invasive
carcinoma. So I had it pretty much in my entire right breast and then in
the lymph nodes as well. And at the time they tried to strong arm me
into doing chemo and radiation. And I opted to really take some time
and think about it. So I spent a lot of time doing things with my diet for
about five months. And I think the most telling thing for me was before I
went to a raw food retreat my PET CTs were in the seven to eight
values and just three weeks later after coming back they were less than
three, which anything less than three is normal. So that told me right
there that I could heal this with nutrition.
Ty: Okay.
Ty: Okay.
Kelly: And I got a little cocky, got a lot back to living a crazy life, living a
crazy job, back to drinking wine, not eating raw foods, eating meat
again, and on August 2012 I was diagnosed with stage IV. So I had
about a three inch lesion on my sternum here and it was also in my
lower spine and in my left hip. So it was throughout my bones. And in
December of 2012 I was given 19 months and pretty much told by my
oncologist at the time that the only options were palliative, not curative,
that there was
month when I asked him how many patients he dealt with just like me.
He said, oh honey, youre our bread and butter. He says, any
oncologist whos worth their weight in gold has their office lined with
patients like you. Youre our bread and butter.
Kelly: So I got up and I said Im not anybodys bread and butter. And I
went to my now oncologist at the Mayo Clinic, whoyou know, he
always tells me, hes like I got to give you standard line. I know youre
going to do what you want to do. So I did have surgery to have the
ovaries removed because it was hormone dependent with the bones.
And then after that the doctors were like, well again, well just watch it
and see how it does and within two months is was completely gone. So
since for the last year now Ive had nothing on my PET CTs I am about
70 to 80 percent raw, entirely vegan. I dont touch any animal products
whatsoever except maybe some honey every once in a while. Bees
arentbees are bees. Theyre not animals. I love my honey, so.
And I really limit sugar, no alcohol. So I did it mostly through diet but I
would say diet isnt everything. Theres so much more to itmind, body.
And it might sound evolutionary, Id like to call it, but I strongly suggest
that people learn to send love to, what I call, the crazy cells because the
whole idea of fighting just creates more war in your body and thats the
last thing we need. So finding a way to send love and transmute it to
golden healing light and send them back to normal. I always picture it as
anytime I was getting a vitamin C IV, which I did, and a lot of
nutraceutical grade supplements, no drugs, yeah, no drugs, but any
time I was getting vitamin C IVs or coffee enemas I always pictured any
of that stuff going in is like little coffee cells or whatever and vitamin C
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cells with party hats on going and finding the sneaky cancer cells and
going wake up, wake up, youre happy, youre okay. And theyd be okay
and theyd be fine, so. And here I am today and Im a 100 percent and
like everyone says
Ty: Well, thank you so much for sharing with us. We appreciate it.
Ty: No, it was great and I know that everybody thats watching this
is being encouraged.
Kelly: Good. Well, Im glad. Hopefully I could help at least. If its one
person then it was worth it.
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Ty: AJ, you talked about unraveling the mysteries here so lets
look at the immune system. Is that immune system one of those
mysteries that we need to explain and help to unravel so that
people can better get a grasp on how they can control the factors
that might effect that immune system and then down the road
potentially cause cancer. Because, if I understand it correctly, the
immune system is our first line of defense. And with a healthy
immune system it might be awful hard to get cancer if your
immune systems working properly.
In fact, the very narrow margin would be made up of natural killer cells
and theyre constantly surveying all the cells in your body, healthy cell
smiley face, healthy cell, smiley face. Hmmthis cell doesnt have a
smiley facebada bing, bada boom. Thats the job that naturally kills it.
There may be a virus hiding inside that cell. That cell could be mutating,
it could be mutating and be benign, it could be mutating and in turning
cancerous. It doesnt matter. No smiley face.
Ty: Fascinating way that you put that, very down to earth. Youre
the opposite of Emeril. He kicks it up a notch. You pulled it down a
notch so that I could understand that. I appreciate that. Now a
couple things that you mentioned, you mentioned neutrophils, you
mentioned natural NK cells which natural killer cells, you
mentioned T-lymphocytes.
rams into it it releases chemicals into the lining of that target cell until it
finally bursts open or lysesl-y-s-e. Itll lyse that cell wall and a juice
comes out, the cytoplasm. The same thing happens with cytotoxic T-
lymphocytes. The difference is the natural killer cell is non-specific
generally. It doesnt care in any way whether or not theres a herpes
virus in there, it doesnt care if it is herpes I, herpes II, in other words
you got a variation of things that could be in there. It just generally
doesnt like anything that doesnt have a smiley face. The cytotoxic T-
lymphocyte, on the other hand, has been trained to look for one specific
fingerprint. So that cytotoxic T-lymphocyte that attacks herpes I wont
attack cytomegalovirus, wont attack roseola, wont attack herpes II. In
other words, one cell one target of attack. B-cells are lymphocytes, T-
cells are lymphocytes.
On the blood panels youve got a CD4. Thats a T4. You got CD8s,
thats a T-8. They got subsets. Think of the T4 as a four star general. I
mean hes sitting up at the top of the hill and hes watching whats going
on and troops are coming back and forth and giving him information.
Well, hes got a couple of two star generals. Theyre called T-helper
cells, also lymphocytes. T-helper subset one, T-helper subset two. Now
those two generals take responsibility. The TH2, he goes over and takes
care of all those B-cells and antibody production jobs. The TH1, hes
going to stay over here and help regulate all these cellular killing which
will take place with those cytotoxic T-lymphocytes. Itll also help with the
lymphocytes that call for memory.
So maybe youve have the measles. Maybe youve had the mumps.
Youre never going to have those again. Why? Because those T-cells
that carry memory, you also need suppressor T-cells. You dont need a
immune system that just fights and wars and kills and destroys because
theres too much inflammation. You dont want to be living in the middle
of a war zone. So a suppressor cell says, hey, cool it down man. Weve
won this fight. Lets go back, set up, have a good day, have a good rest,
and fight again when theres another challenge. So that TH1 is keeping
track of all of that and largely keeps track also of those non-specific
cells, again, the macrophages, the neutrophils, the natural killers.
Im not smart enough to tell you that there is. I dont make no claim that I
have one. But I do know this. To overcome cancer, to stop it before it
begins or to reverse it once youve contracted it Im pretty much
convinced the immune systems going to have to be a major player.
Ty: [Dr. Keith], talk about white blood cells, the immune system,
and inflammation as it all relates to cancer.
Dr. Keith Scott Mumby: Okay. Well, one of thea part of the question
Ty is what is the basic model for cancer? You know, theres the stem
cell model and the metabolic model and so on. But certainly at the core,
if not the cause, many people, and Im one of them, see cancer as
basically a disease of the immune system. Especially in our modern
world I dont think theres any way youre going to stop cells firing off
and going wrong and turning into rogue cells. Theres just too many
toxins. But a good immune system will pick them up very quickly and
eliminate them.
And Ive got to say that, you know, emotions can be pretty inflammatory
too. The immune system gets burdened even if a person is upset, sad,
depressed, or whatever. And I would like a minute to talk about that with
cancer. I think its a very crucial element in cancer. But really anything
thats what Im saying is anything thats inflammatory is bad for cancer
and yet we can get a good handle on it. There are ways like you can
take your antioxidants, your phyto nutrients, your omega-3s, brilliant
anti-inflammatory, but removing the triggers like the inflammatory foods
and heavy metals is a better strategy anyway. So thats something we
should all do and its back to my saying, any good health measure is an
anti-cancer measure.
Ty: Dr. Roby, would you talk about the relationship between fat
cells and cancers?
Dr. Roby Mitchell: So fat cells--we have to delineate normal fat cells
from fat cells that are fat cells because of the inflammatory process,
right. So you know, normal fat cells per se are not necessarily
carcinogenic. Inflammation is carcinogenic. And what inflammation is
basically a war between your immune cells and some critter, right. It can
be a virus, it can be a bacteria. It can be a fungus. It can be cancer. So
if you remember back to the beginning of the Iraq war and that shock
and ah. So thats very analogous to what happens in thewith the
immune system when its trying to fight off a bacteria virus or a fungus to
some degree. So as your immune system, and its a very apropos
analogy to compare the immune system to the military because you do
have all these different soldiers, T-cells and killer T-cells and
macrophages and macrocytes and so forth for cells in the liver and
specialized cells in each tissue in the body that are sentinels that are
surveying the area and then if something goes array then they let loose
and they have all these weapons of mass destruction to make things
happen. So when your temperature goes up, when you get red, when
you have diarrhea, when you have the sniffles, and the watery eyes,
and all that, so all of that is not because of the critter. Thats because of
these chemicals that your immune system is able to release.
so. But we all have the samewe all produce the same, exact
molecules as for as estrogens and testosterone and DHEA and
progesterone and these other hormones. its important that we
understand for these estrogens, the human ones anyway, that again
theone of the pharmacologic characteristics of estrogen is that they
make cells multiply, right. And this is very important in pregnancy, right,
because that fetus has to grow so much. And so during pregnancy
estrogen levels go way up and we get, again, we get exponential growth
of a fetus, right.
Other cells, if they get exposed to higher levels of estrogen, right, then
they can grow faster also. So in breast cancer, in prostate cancer, and
in other cancers if estrogen levels are elevated, right, or if were
exposed to a more potent estrogen, right, and this is where were getting
into environmental estrogens then that cancer can grow faster, right.
And its not necessarily that indigenous estrogens cause cancer, right,
but they can certainly like insulin, right? Thats the other cancer
promoting hormone. They can make the fire burn hotter.
Ty: Okay, great analogy. So its like more gasoline on the fire
when you have a higher level of estrogen than you should have
Ty: which lots of articles today that were reading about the effect
of what they call xenoestrogens, which are fake estrogens in the
environment.
Ty: So can you talk about that a little big in relationship to cancer?
Dr. Roby Mitchell: Right and then so thats one of the reasons why we
see such a proliferation of cancer in the west, right, and havent seen in
this west. Were seeing it more in third world countries now. But
because of our exposure to environmental and pharmaceutical
estrogens, right, that has the effect of throwing more gasoline on the
fire. So some of the insecticides, pesticides, fungicides that we use they
have an estrogen effect, right. These are what we call xenoestrogens,
xeno meaning foreign. So those, again, long term exposures so we
have to think about estrogen exposure and lifetime exposure as we do
like with radiation exposure.
where you cant be exposed to anymore radiation. the same thing with
these estrogens, right, so there is a lifetime exposure of estrogen that
dictates your risk for different cancers, right. So you are producing
estrogens as a human. As a man, youre producing estrogen, as a
woman, theyre producing estrogens. Women produce more. So if we
go adding on top of that environmental estrogens then that increases
your lifetime exposure of estrogen. If you take birth control pills that
increases your lifetime exposure of estrogen. If you take synthetic
hormone replacement after menopause that increases your lifetime
exposure of estrogen. If you stay overweight with these fat cells that are
born of inflammation, these growth factors, right, that is increasing your
lifetime exposure of estrogen.
Ty: Okay. The information from Dr. Mitchell was really an eye
opener. Estrogens can make the fire burn hotter when it comes to
cancer. So then I began to think about pesticides on the food and a
possible effect on cancer. Talk about pesticides and cancer. One of
the things that I have heard thus far from other doctors is that
pesticides have an estrogenic effect on the body. So can you talk
about that?
If you have enough of these toxic pollutants coming in from day one
every day, never an escape from it, because you dont know. A lot of
times theyre now invisible. They come in through pesticides in food.
They come in through other contaminates through the water if were not
purifying it and structuring it in a proper way. And that these things will,
over time, deplete the mineral content of the body, the stores that we
have that would normally come from the soils, from the food that we eat.
And at that point, again, these are subclinical, theyre not overt
deficiencies like scurvy or beriberi but theyre subtle.
Dr. Robert Scott Bell: Yeah. Well, the toxins impact the liver, the liver
is your main organ for detoxification to bind and eliminate and excrete
through the colon as solid waste or ascending to the kidneys as a liquid
waste. If the livers not doing its job, of course, what gets to the kidneys
is often a form that the kidneys cant handle very well and then the
toxins then circulate through the system. The body tries to find a way to
tuck it away somewhere else. Now a big way that we interact with these
toxins is through the gastrointestinal tract, the alimentary canal. And
these toxins are going to impact on the micro flora.
The micro flora is the seat of the immune system along with the liver but
in the intestines are 70 or so percent of the immune system is there.
And when we impact our healthy flora, the good gut ecology we impact
negatively our ability to have a normal interaction with the outside world
because technically that gastrointestinal tract, that alimentary canal from
your mouth, and we get astrological--I love to do this--out through the
planet Uranusyou get ityou have this tube thats technically outside
of your body even though its in. Its the outside environment carried
through and theres that barrier, that epithelial barrier that is yourthat
epithelial integrity is critical to protect you from things that shouldnt get
in including these toxic poisons or even metabolic waste.
But we have a limit and that limit, of course, is when the toxins
overwhelm our ability to deal with them, the accumulation can no longer
be held in check. Then we have that disregulation and these cells
proliferate and our immune no longer has the strength and integrity to
be that barrier, to fight it off, to keep it in check because of all these
other things that occurredthe liver toxins, the intestinal toxins, etc. So
this is where the immune system is corrupted, the gut primarily along
with the liver and thats why I always start my focal point of healing for
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anybody by working with the liver and the gut. And then we are not even
necessarily chasing a symptom, chasing a disease but were correcting
the terrain, you or the environment, at its source.
One of the immune cells will shoot out specific particles that will blast
open a virus in a cancer cell, other immune cells will secret specific
chemical poisons to cause those pathogens to die, other immune cells
will send out these long, sticky, gooey pods and engulf the pathogen
and the cancer cell and recycle it and use its body its body parts. So the
immune system is very powerful. And the important thing to know about
your immune system is that 80 percent of your immune system is in the
mucosal lining of your intestinal tract. So if you dont have a healthy
intestinal track, if youre feeding your body a lot of junk the typical SAD
foods, SAD foods, Standard American Diet food, your immune system is
going to be compromised.
Ty: Talk about the role that environmental toxins play in the
cancer equation.
Ty: Wow!
For people who dont think that EMFs are a problem I encourage them
to go to the bioinitiativereport.org to take a look. 27 scientists from
various countries looked at 10 years of data and their conclusion was
that EMFs cause cancer, brain tumors, disrupt the immune system,
suppress the reproductive functions of the body, affect your sleep and
your memory, so EMFs are a huge problem. And its been labeled one
of the most insidious toxins on the planet because we dont see it, we
dont feel it, we dont taste it, but its affecting us 24/7. for example, in
this office here you can go to antennasearch.org and find out how many
antenna are within a four mile radius. So I just Googled and put the
address here. Theres 91 antennas, cell towers, and a 144 antennas
within a four mile radius of this location.
Ty: Wow!
Dr. Veronique Desaulniers: Now as you move closer to big cities like
Atlanta youre looking at hundreds, like 200, 300, 400 cell towers in just
a few miles. So were literally swimming in a soup of EMFs and electro
smog.
Ty: Right.
Bring it one step closer to what people put on their skin, the average
person is exposed to a 167 chemicals per day from the lotions and
potions they put on their skin because anything you put on your skin is
absorbed directly into the body. And again, many of those chemicals
have been found in tumors because theyre disrupting natural processes
of the body.
All those pathogens and those toxins in your body are going to keep
recirculating so when we look at toxicity we can look at it from a large
perspective, a macro perspective, and then take it all the way down into
the body, into a micro perspective and where we are burdened with
toxins. So we have to be very proactive about learning to detoxify the
body properly and changing our lifestyle and eating better foods.
Dr. David Jockers: Well, sugar is a fuel for cancer cells so basically
cancer cells they have an altered metabolism, an altered physiology and
theyre not able to produce energy from aerobic metabolism. And so the
mitochondria itself is damaged. And so they depend on anaerobic
metabolism so without oxygen which is basically breaking down sugar.
So they utilize sugar and they produce a lot of waste products
particularly one that were probably all familiar with, lactic acid. And so
they produce a high amount of acids and they consume a tremendous
amount of energy in our system through sugar.
And so basically when we take the sugar out were taking out the
preferred fuel source for the cancer cells. So they become weakened in
that state. As opposed to when were fueling our body with a lot of sugar
not only has it caused the free radical damage, which is what actually
damages the mitochondria to begin with, and creates this whole
process, but at the same time were also providing the preferred fuel
source for more cancer cell development in our body.
See, what most people dont realize is all of us have cancer cells. Were
all developing them every single day. Typically our immune system
would hunt them down and regulate them. However, when weve got
immune deficiencies, which is another problem with sugar it weakens
our bodys innate immune system and so when that happens now these
cancer cells will start to grow without being checked, being kept in check
by our bodys natural immune response. So we just continue to dump in
the sugar.
Ty: So KC lets talk about sugar. You had mentioned low glycemic
index, low sugar diets, and the effect that, the positive effect that
that has on folks health. That is also a key stone that Im finding
throughout this report, this investigative miniseries that Im doing.
Almost every doctor that Ive talked to that treats cancer says that
one of the first things that they tell their patients to do is to
eliminate refined sugars because of the fact that sugar is the fuel
for cancer cells.
So all this time you see these cancer centers giving ice cream to
patients its like what are they thinking about? One century ago sugar
was a delicacy, you know, so youd have maybe mom would make an
apple pie or youd go to the store and get a little treat or something like
that. Five pounds a year its estimated would be the intake of sugar per
year per person on the average. Today, its a whopping 150 plus
pounds per person per year on the average, and somebody is eating
our sugar. So the average is pretty high. The point is people are eating
their weight in sugar a year. So sugar, we talk about, its a big problem.
Yes, its a big problem.
Ty: [Burton], talk about corruption. You mentioned that now twice
thus far. What about the current medical paradigm do you see as
being corrupt?
they use are truly not healthy. For instance, cancerthe oncologists use
sugar to carry the radiologic molecule into the cancer cell to show up on
the x-ray, the PET scan. The oncologist knows that sugar feeds cancer
because thats why he uses it as a Trojan horse. And when you finish
your chemo in the conventional setting they give you cookies and ice
cream or candy. That is tantamount to putting gasoline on a fire. That
means these oncologists are guilty of crimes against humanity. They are
killing their patients.
Ty: Strong words for a very passionate man. I really appreciate his
honesty and his candor and an appreciating quote. I want to make
it clear that were not knocking doctors here, were not knocking
individual doctors. We know that theyre doing the best that they
can. Theyve just been taught inappropriate methods to treat
cancer. And let me make another distinction too that Burton made.
Trauma medicine in the United States is second to none. If I were
in the studio here and somebody came in and took a machete and
whack off my arm, Im not going to go run out into the yard and
grab some aloe vera gel and rub it in my open wound. Im going to
head down to the hospital and theyre going to have some brilliant
surgeons there that can probably sew on the arm and probably
work again. Ill probably have full functionality or pretty close to it.
Ty: [Dr. Buttar], talk briefly about the connection between sugar
and cancer cells.
So theres only five things that can enter into a cancer cell. Theres
water, theres vitamin C, theres sugar, rubidium and caesium [ph]. And
as you know that glucose, sugar, and vitamin C, the receptor sites for
sugar and vitamin C are identical, morphologically identical. So when
you actually give vitamin C to an individual intravenously the cancer
sees that as sugar. It opens it up and allows the sugar to come in. So I
use that sugar as a Trojan horse to put vitamin C and other types of
things. I kind of use it as insulin potentiated type technique. I used to
use insulin potentiated low dose chemotherapy. I stopped using that 15
years ago. 1999 was the last time I used low dose insulin potentiated
chemotherapy. But I still use sugar as a Trojan horse to get certain
things into the cancer.
Patrick Quillin who wrote, Beating Cancer with Nutrition, a very good
friend of mine, in his book says that 42 46 percent of cancer patients
die of cachexia, of malnutrition. How many oncologists are addressing
malnutrition. No one. In fact, what do they do? They give people Ensure,
which is sugar and you know that cancer is an obligate glucose
metabolizer. It needs sugar to survive. In fact, one of the techniques is
to reduce the amount of sugar so that it cant feed the cancer. But
theyre actually giving gasoline to the fire and then expecting to put out
the fire. You cant put out a fire with gasoline. So thats 42 to 46 percent.
Now if you look at other statistics, what does a cancer patient actually
die of? They usually end up dying from some type of an opportunistic
infectionpneumonia or whatever, urinary tract infection becomes
septic, whatever. They also die of multi organ system failure because
the tumor burden is so great the system cant keep up, the entire blood
disgraces that result from this. So really when you look at it cancer has
never really killed anybody. Its the sequelae of cancer. Its the
consequences of cancer that actually kill people. And if we can start to,
one, understand whats causing cancer, because cancer is not caused
bywhy does one person get cancer and another person doesnt?
Like I said, theres a genetic cause. And theresthe one thing that I
believe that this current administration, it may only be the one thing that
theyve done rightokay, thats opinion and Ill refrain from being
political herebut there was a presidential report, presidential cancer
report, that came out in 2010 and they admitted for the first time that I
know of in the history of medicine that cancer is an environmental issue
and they need to look at more environmental causes of cancer. And this
was a 250-some page report which we have available on our website for
download for free. But itsthe essence of it, I mean this 250-some page
report, the essence of it is they recognize that the number one cause of
cancer is environmental and there has not been adequate addressing of
that cause. Nobodys ever said that before and thats exactly the
answer.
for better or for worse they have a huge influence on our health. We
dont even talk about that in medicine. In 1908 Elie Metchnikoff won a
noble prize in medicine for his work with the immune system. Hes
considered the father of modern immunology and his work with the
bacteria that makes yogurt. And he said death begins in the colon. And
for many patients thats true.
Ty: GcMAF? What do you mean? What does that stand for?
Dr. Leigh Erin Connealy: They eat the things that your body doesnt
like. So, for example, viruses and bacteria and fungi and chemicals and
toxins, everything that is attacking the body that is unable to do its job
and have a functioning immune system.
Mike Adams: Most of the so-called success that they would claim in
radiotherapy treatments or chemotherapy treatments is based on
shrinking a tumor. Well, but most of these tumors have cancer stem
cells. So you shrink the other cells in the tumor, you physically reduce
the size of the tumor, this is a symptomatic difference. It doesnt kill the
stem cells that are going to grow back and spread the cancer
throughout the body. You havent addressed the systemic problem. And
what youve even done is youve weakened the immune systems ability
to deal with other cancers. Chemotherapy also damages the brain. It
causes chemo brain. Thats a common term. Every oncologist knows
this is the case. It damages the kidneys, it damages the liver. So what
youre doing is with chemotherapy you are creating systemic damage to
the bodys ability to heal itself and to remove toxins. This is why cancer
treatments cause cancer which feeds into the profit cycle of the cancer
industry which is a for profit industry. The cancer industry is exploding.
And the GMO industry may in fact turn out to be the single best
recruiting tool for the cancer industry. So its no wonder that they tend to
operate in some of the same ways, oppression of scientist intimidation,
oppression and censorship of scientific information, shutting down
anyone who asks questions.
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how we can best stay away from these environmental toxins and
foods that compromise immunity.
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Ty: Im here with Elaine and Elaine was diagnosed with cancer a
few years ago. So I want to get you to tell us about the cancer and
what did you do to treat it and what are you up to today?
Elaine: Sure. Thanks Ty. I was diagnosed in 2008, February 2008, with
a recurrence, a surprise recurrence after being clean for six years, with
stage IV non-Hodgkins lymphoma. I was covered with disease from
here to here. And my oncologist insisted that I do traditional protocol
and I just knew in my heart it wasnt for me.
We have to get our pH in balance, and we have to get into this alkaline,
oxygen rich lifestyle. And once I learned that my body just responded
incredibly. I have become a green juice-a-holic. Im totally addicted to
green juice, real green juice, because I dont do fruit because of the
sugar. Im very high alkaline.
So what I do now is I have totally changed my direction and I help
people understand. And in January 2012 I started what we lovingly call
Renewed Living Inc. And we make extraordinary health easy. And I
teach a very practical way to implement what real health looks like.
Ty: Wow!
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Ty: its almost like you have the fox guarding the hen house.
Jeffrey Smith: its more than almost. We have a situation where the
claims in the policy, they werent aware of information showing that
GMOs were different, was a complete lie. It was a total fabrication. The
lawsuit forced 44 thousand secret FDA memos into the public domain
and it showed that the overwhelming consensus among the scientists
working at the FDA was exactly the opposite. They said GMOs might
create allergens, toxins, new diseases, and nutritional problems, urged
their superiors to require testing, complained about the draft of the
policy and their concerns were ignored and even denied.
Ty: Now when you say that they are not significantly, or at least
Monsanto said they are not significantly different than what?
Jeffrey Smith: They dont need to tell us, they dont need to test it.
They can just put it on the market and assume that its safe. And if they
want to do tests they can do tests. And if they dont want toand the
tests that they do tobacco science, completely rigged to avoid finding
problems. We catch the red handed.
Ty: So the only testing is required are self tests that they submit
and then, of course, its going to
Jeffrey Smith: They can submit them if they want and they usuallyif
they do submit just summaries they will never give a reviewer enough
information to determine safety. The tests typically on animals end in 90
days. So you feed an animal a rat, for example, lets say 33 percent of
its diet is a genetically modified corn for 90 days. And if it looks good
after 90 days you feed it to humans for their entire lives. Now a research
team headed by Dr. Seralini decided to extend the study of 90 days to
two years, the approximate lifespan of a rat. Now Seralini had been
reviewing the submissions to France and to the European union by
Monsanto and saw that Round-Up ready corn fed to rats showed more
than 50 different statistically significant changes in the animals
compared to the control. And Monsanto said, oh, theres no problem.
And Seralini says, what do you mean theres no problem? This is very
serious and published it showing that there was very significant signs of
toxicity. So he secretly extended the study using the same type of rats,
the same control group size, but many, many more parameters that they
tested for and starting after the 90 days in the next month the first rat
started to get tumors. And by the end up to 80 percent of the female rats
had tumors, almost all of them mammary gland tumors, up to 50 percent
of male rats had tumors compared to far less in the controls.
influence on the environment can be much more toxic when youre also
exposed to Round-Up or its active ingredient glyphosate.
So even the chemotherapy taken for the cancer, which may have been
promoted by Round-Up may actually not get out of the body as easily
and be much worse. Round-Up also keylates or binds with certain trace
minerals like zinc and zinc becomes more deficient in the presence of
Round-Up. Itll still be there but it cant be assimilated because its
locked in and bound with the glyphosate molecule. And zinc deficiency
is linked to certain cancers and its being tested as a possible adjunct or
supplement for cancer therapy. In addition, Round-Up specifically can
promote enhance breast cell growth and in tiny, tiny amounts in parts
per trillion. So these are the amount ofthis is the amount of Round-Up
thats already in our air and in our rain water and in our drinking water
because of the overuse of Round-Up because of the Round-Up ready
crops. Through the gut bacteria overgrowth it can promote inflammation
in the gut. And inflammation is also linked to cancer. So Round-Up has
all these different ways, like a perfect storm. Now there are certain
tissues that are the target tissues for Round-Up and they accumulateit
accumulates in those tissues and those are the cancers that are on the
rise in the US population, for example, thyroid cancer, liver cancer, and
kidney cancer. So theres a lot of indications out there that Round-Up
and its active ingredient glyphosate may be promoting the growth of
cancer in the United States.
Ty: from detoxing the chemo because many of the people are
probably taking chemotherapy.
Jeffrey Smith: Yeah. and I would say its notit used to be just
important to avoid the GMOs, the Round-Up ready soy and corn which
are in practically everything, and they contain higher levels of Round-
Up. The cottonseed oil, the canola oil, sugar beets, sugar, which is most
of the sugar is from sugar beets, but actually its worse now because
Round-Up is used as a ripening agent on all sorts of grains and beans
and fruits and vegetables. So its used for sugar cane. So youll find it in
molasses and what not. Youll find it sprayed on wheat. its spray on
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barely and rice and lentils and potatoes and sweet potatoes and berries
and citrus groves. So the way to go really to avoid Round-Up, I mean
you can find the 160 types of fruits vegetables and plants that have
been approved for high levels of Round-Up residue by the EPA but its
jut easier to go all organic. And that would be anyone that has a
diagnosis of cancer might want to do that to prevent exposure to
glyphosate and some other nasty chemicals that are found on
conventional foods. Now the BT toxin produced by the corn, because it
promotes allergic reactions or immune system reactions, in humans and
animals can create inflammation. And again, inflammation is linked to
cancer. Now the BT toxin, its interesting, they found the BT toxin and
Round-Up in the blood of pregnant women tested in Canada. In fact, 93
percent of the pregnant women had BT toxin in their blood and so too
did 80 percent of their unborn fetuses. Now the BT toxin may have
gotten into the blood through the leaky gut that it itself created by poking
holes in the cell walls. If it gets in the blood it can be cytotoxic damaging
the red blood cells, and this was found in the case of a mouse study
where BT toxin damaged the red blood cells. If it gets into the fetus the
fetus dont have blood brain barriers well developed so it might end up
in the brains of the fetuses. So you have a hole poking toxin in the
brains of the next generation in North America.
Now as soon as the pro-GM UK government who was funding this study
found out they pulled the plug on any additional funding. So they never
found out if eating a corn chip from genetically modified BT toxin corn
also transfers to the DNA of gut bacteria. If the BT gene transfers to gut
bacteria and continues to function it can convert our intestinal flora into
living pesticide factories producing BT toxin 24/7 which might poke
holes along the cell walls causing inflammation and all sorts of
gastrointestinal disorders, possibly creating leaky gut, which is also
linked to cancer. and that might explain this production of the BT toxin,
why 93 percent of the pregnant women tested in Canada had it in their
blood because they are producing it in their gut. As far as the gut
bacteria I mean it is now a huge source, a huge topic of study.
Everyones into the micro bio now. its like its the new tofu. Everyones
into the micro bio. And so we have a situation where the devastation of
Round-Up becomes bigger and bigger the more they realize this
because it is a potent antibiotic but it is selective. It kills the lactobacillus
and the bifidobacteria, the stuff thats good for us.
Jeffrey Smith: The good stuff that youre buying and paying for and
then you wash it down with something with Round-Up in it and you just
kill everything youve just put in there plus more. And it allows the
overgrowth of salmonella or botulism or e.coli, the negative stuff.
Ty: Let me ask you this. So youve talked about the Round-Up
ready corn and the soy potentially thats spray with Round-Up. Do
they use Round-Up or glyphosate on other non-organic vegetables
as well or is it just the corn and soy?
Jeffrey Smith: No, no, its used as a ripening agent. They spray it on
wheat, on barley, on rye, on lentils, on sweet potatoes, on sugar cane
theres a 160 or so different fruits, vegetables, grains, beans, etc. that
are allowed high residues because of this now practice of using it as
whats called a desiccant or ripening agent. Not every farmer uses it but
its hard to tell where it is and where it isnt because its not labeled. So
thats why buying organic is much safer. They have now up for approval,
we call it, agent orange crops, crops that are tolerant to be sprayed by
24D which was half the component of agent orange which can create
dioxins which are linked to cancer. And so its expected that if that gets
approved the use of 24D will increase in the United States by as much
as 20 fold. and so itll be the food, itll also in the air because it can
vaporize and then move and then land and kill other crops and hurt
other people and livestock. So its an absolute disaster. Now we hope to
stop GMOs soon. We actually have seen a tipping point of consumer
rejection. We expect to end GMOs soon. And its because consumers
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Jeffrey Smith: Vermont passed a labeling law, yes. It was very, very
exciting. So this was passed this year and itll go into effect on July 1st,
2016. They expect to be sued by Monsanto and the biotech industry. its
possible the FDA will come in and preempt it. Theyre up still against
some potential obstacles but its the first state to pass a labeling law that
will go into effect immediately as soon as the date hits. Two other states
have a requirement of other states also passing similar laws before
theirs become enacted. And most states actually have introduced
labeling legislation that has not yet passed.
Ty: That is good. Ive never had a mulberry thats that shape. Why
is it so long?
And one of the sound bytes I mentioned is go for the color. In the color,
in those pigments, the reds, orange, yellows, dark colors, and the
mulberrys a dark purple color, what you have is mother nature has
sunshine coming down and hitting the chlorophyll and the chloroplast
and its through photosynthesis making sugar. And from that comes all
of life. Thats the beginning of all life on earth. How does the plant
protect itself from the damaging effects of sun? because youve got both
sunlight that is mutagenic, carcinogenic, its all kinds ofits a damaging
x-ray. How does a plant protect itself? About 20 thousand different
bioflavinoids and about 800 different carotinoids are in colorful fruits and
vegetables and they protect the plant from the sun and from the effects
of photosynthesis. Given that what were talking about is I was choosing
fruits and vegetables that would be, not only tasty and not readily
available in the stores, for instance, figs.
Figs dont travel well thats why most people dont find them in the
stores and most people, including myself, the only figs that I had had
while living in the Midwest was fig Newtons. But in fact in figs is not just
a delicious taste but there is a phytochemical, phyto means plant,
chemical is a substance in it. In figs, a substance called ficinf-i-c-i-n,
which the National Cancer Institute has been researching hoping to find
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And so we tamper with the food supply. We tamper with our body. A
child by 30 months has had 30 vaccinations some of them with mercury
in them. This is not a good idea. Many of these kids are not properly
nourished. So we tamper with the body. Were exposed to extraordinary
amount of EMFs, electromagnetic fields, everything from cell phones to
Wi-Fi to radio transmission. Were tampering with the bodyour
ancestors lived outside for a couple million years. We stay inside and
well all have a vitamin D deficiency because were not getting enough
sunlight. So we tamper with the body that God created, we tamper with
the food supply that God created. Put the two of them together and we
have epidemics of diseases in this country. Experiences I had with
cancer treatment centers, 10 years working with thousands of patients
show that nutrition can have a huge impact in cancer outcome while
theyre being medically treated.
Ty: Yeah.
Mike Adams: So potassium goes into every plant, every plant then
incorporates potassium into its cell structure, which becomes the food
that you eat if you eat the plant, the grain of the corn, the leaf of the
herb, the root of the turnip, whatever the case may be. So if you cesium
falling on that, cesium-137 or 134134 is a much shorter lived isotope .
The normal non-radioactive most common isotope of cesium is 133. 134
will decay back into 133 relatively quickly but 137 has a half life of about
30 years which really pollutes agricultural lands for centuries200 to
300 years really is considered how long it will contaminate land such as
around Chernobyl and Fukushima.
Ty: Sure.
Ty: Yeah
Ty: Wow!
Ty: Everywhere.
Dr. Veronique Desaulniers: The CDC did a study about ten years
ago where they took samples of blood, urine, and saliva of over two
thousand people in the United States. And they found on average 212
chemicals in peoples bodies. So what does the body do with that? Over
212 chemicals that the body has to process and figure out what to do
with and try to expel so that chemical stress is really compromising the
immune system and putting a lot of stress on the excretory organs of the
body which leads to DNA damage and more cancers.
Dr. David Jockers: I believe they play a huge role with this. I mean we
have over 80 thousand chemicals in our society. The average individual
in our society urinates out seven pesticides every time they urinate. And
then they did a study several years ago where they took ten newborn
infants and they measured their umbilical cord blood for toxins and they
found 280--the mean, the average was 287 toxic chemicals, 208 of
those were carcinogenic for the body. And this is a newborn infant.
Ty: So this is not something that you believe. This is research has
shown that these toxins are getting into the systems and causing
damage.
Dr. David Jockers: Oh yeah. You know, its empirical evidence thats
showing that these toxins are wreaking havoc on our physiology. And
just like you said about it, if we did that study a hundred years ago, sure,
we went through the industrial revolution. There were certainly toxins in
our bodies but I bet if they took newborn infants a hundred years and
they tested them, itd probably be double digits with the amount of
toxins. A thousand years ago itd probably be single digits. Two
thousand years ago it may be five or less. And so the reality is that as
amazing as our bodies are, which I believe our bodies are the most
amazing structure thats ever been built, I mean the most incredible
system, however, and as great as we are at adapting to stresses the
amount of toxicity and environmental stress and challenges we have in
our system right now and upon us is for most people too much.
And if youre not being intentional about taking care of your health and
using advanced health strategies in 21st century, the 21st century
western world, youre setting yourself up. I mean its only a matter of
time before these genetic triggers are going to fire off and youre going
to have enough disease development before you get diagnosed with
something and have major symptoms in your body. We just have a toxic
on-slot. its an epidemic. And fortunately weve got very intelligent
people that are out there, that are not only teaching people how to be
well, but also providing the resources they need as far as specific
testing and supplementation and advanced therapies to help people
heal in our modern world.
Ty: Talk about some of the chemicals in the vaccines, some of the
additives, the adjuvants, and other ingredients that might be
carcinogenic.
Dr. Robert Scott Bell: Sure. I think the biggest onewell, the class of
them are heavy metalsmercury a number one. And if you look into
Homeopathic Materia Medica there are pages and pages almost more
than any other, lets say, substance listed in that Materia Medica of
potential effects and actual effects at even minute doses, minute
exposure to mercury. And this effects every system of the body, the
endocrine, the neurological system, you name it, the digestive system,
the epithelial tissue. Mercury is the biggest baddy of them all and
ultimately I believe facilitates cancer. Now aluminum is their next go-to
adjuvant because it hyper stimulates and aggravates the immune cells
and they want to illicit this antibody artificially is the best way to say it.
And they think that thats going to be enough to prevent you from getting
a disease. But if youve ever had chicken pox as a child like I did and I
got my kids to chicken pox parties when they were kids to get it early
they now have what we call a natural immunity against the chicken pox
virus. But does it last your whole life? Well, apparently not in everybody
because theres something called shingles which is a manifestation of
the herpes zoster varicella or the varicella virus in adulthood in cases
where you already had the chicken pox so you already have the
antibodies and the recognition of that virus. So why is it that even
Primary immunity is gut health. Its liver health, its hydration, its
mineralization of the body. And lets say youve weakened yourself to
the point where youre not longer functional in an immune way. You can
identify a virus because you have an antibody and have not the energy
or strength or the tools to address it and protect yourself. So what good
is the antibody then? So its an immature understanding of immunology
and yet theyre the ones with the duh-gree, which is why I call them a
duh-gree because theyre not using the sense God may have given
them. When they understand that and they say, of course, weve got to
embrace the natural world. Weve got to restore integrity to the terrain.
Weve got to look at the flora issues. We got to get rid of the heavy
metals. And those are just some of the things. Weve got foreign RNA
and DNA from animals, aborted fetal tissue in these vaccines. Youve
got formaldehyde, youve got antifreeze like compounds. There are so
many things that if you knew what was in it, as I said, you added that to
a babys bottle, you would be charged with attempted murder.
Ty: And the interesting thing about these vaccines, these drugs, is
that most of the time theyre FDA approved, right?
Dr. Robert Scott Bell: Yeah. The FDA says theyre perfectly fine to
take and give. There have never been any double blind placebo
controlled crossover center studies to determine safety or efficacy of
any of these vaccines. So for them to claim that they actually work
based on what? Anecdote. They claim it. And they say, well, its good
enough for us and you point out that the double blind placebo controlled
studies have not been done. They yell at you and scream at you and
call you names and say that would be unethical to do that. In the
meantime there are thousands of families around the country that would
be happy to volunteer information about the health of their children who
have not been vaccinated so they can do cross comparative studies
looking back. Thats how they do these studies yet they claim they cant
do it. They dont want to do it because they find that the children that
have not been assaulted in this way by a syringe are much healthier and
they have fewer and fewer chronic diseases.
Burton Goldberg: The head of the FDA is on the board of the Shine
company, the largest manufacturers of silver fillings which have 50
percent mercury in them.
Bill Henderson: The thing that most people dont even think about
that I found is so common is dental toxins, okay. Whats coming out of
our jaw for most people from the dental work weve had done
generallyroot canals, cavitation sites, as theyre called, where youd
had wisdom teeth or other teeth removed, mercury amalgam fillings, the
metal that the dentist put in our mouth, all of this stuff effects our system
dramatically because our jaw is intimately connected and every tooth in
our mouth intimately connected to organs in our body through the old
Chinese meridian system, if you will. for example, on each side of the
jaw there are two molars, upper and lower, that are directly connected to
the mammary glands in both men and women. I mean men get breast
cancer too.
But these are probably the most common cause of all breast cancers
simply because they are directly connected to a gland that brings on the
breast cancer. And when they are dealt with, what Ive found with
literally thousands of my clients, once that type of thing is cleared up the
cancer disappears. It goes away. And these are mostly people, again,
theyre coming to me Ty kind of as a last resort in many cases. Theyve
been through chemo and surgery, whatever, and it hasnt worked and
the cancers recurred. And they start doing something more sensible
generally. They do a diet change. They take supplements, and what you
have, that we recommend. That doesnt seem to work either. In most
cases the cancers still there. They feel better, they get more energy,
they lose some weight but they dont get over the cancer. They finally
get their jaw cleaned up by some competent dentist and the cancer
goes awaysix to eight weeks later its gone. And this is hundreds of
people that Ive worked with now Ty, hundreds all over the world
literally.
Ty: get the mercury out of their mouth because the silver
amalgams arent really silver, theyre mercury.
Ty: And also, what do you recommend if somebody has had a root
canal?
Bill Henderson: Well, again, its the most deadly thing you can have in
your body practically. One of the dentists I work with calls it taxidermy of
the jaw. What it is taking a tooth that cannot be filled with a cavity
because the cavity would invade the center portion, the nerve of the
tooth, and make it incredibly painful.
Bill Henderson: Right and instead they take the center portion out,
which is the nerve and the pulp surrounding the nerve. And in the
process they have a dead piece of bone in your jaw basically. Theres
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Ty: And these are sealed into a tooth that has been root canalled.
Bill Henderson: Yeah and the root canal, the ideathe name is a little
misleading because the root canal is what goes down through the tooth
into the roots of the tooth. So what you get is a filling up into that area
where theyve taken out the nerve and the pulp. And its kind of a
rubbery substance called gutta-percha in most cases. But it does not
seal off this millions of little tubials unfortunately like its supposed to.
And this was discovered over a hundred years ago and very well
documented that the anaerobic bacteria that accumulate there cause all
kinds of chronic degenerative stuffheart disease, cancer, rheumatoid
arthritis proven beyond any doubt. But this study which was completed
in 1923, believe it or not, after 60 prominent dentists tried to figure out
how to do a safe root canal and they threw up their hands and published
this eleven hundred and seventy-four pages of their study of root canals
and found that they could not be done safely. And now almost a
hundred years later theyre still done the same way.
Bill Henderson: Well, it is, yesindeed it is. And why? Why would it
be done? Well, if you calculate the income of the endodontist, this is the
specialist in root canals, it comes to several billion dollars a year doing
approximately 30 million root canals each year in the United States. This
is a very big money making exercise. And believe it or not the dentists
are in denial about this. Theyre union which is the American Dental
Association is in denial about it as they are about mercury. And so
people listen to their dentists down the street. Dont worry about those
root canals Alice, theyre okay. You must have some problem originating
somewhere else when in almost every case 95 percent of the time the
primary cause of the cancer in my experience is coming out of their jaw.
Ty: Wow!
Dr. Keith Scott Mumby: We need to fix causes and, of course, cancer
has causes. And heres another problem. You know, its a multifactorial
disease. its not like malaria where the cause is a mosquito bite and this
plasmodium. its not that simple. There are many, many causes. You
know, my three pillars ofI call it three pillars of healing in cancer
emotions, which Ive talked about, we barely mentioned chemical
overload but our environment now is full of carcinogenic substances.
Were a wash literally with carcinogens. Some of them are choices and
best not used like cosmetics. I love to see the gals looking pretty, see
my wife. Shes beautiful, right. So you like them to look good but most of
what women put on their skin is dangerous. I think the average women
would probably do less if they realized that they absorb about two
pounds, around a kilogram of cosmetics through their skin every year.
Now thats two pounds of sludge and slime, toxic sludge that your livers
got to deal with. But you werent given a liver to deal with cosmetics. its
supposed to deal with foods and environmental factors, not manmade
synthetics such as now.
If you look at every simpleIm using the word simple rather than
primitive or aboriginal society, cancer is unknown. Now there was a
famous Harvard research called William Stephanson. Im not sure how
to pronounce his name. its obviously a Norwegian or Swedish name.
But I think my best shot is William Stephanson. And he lived with
Eskimos for about 30 years. I shouldnt say Eskimos, Inuit, but you know
what I mean. He live with them and he ate their food and lived their
lifestyle. And at first he couldnt tolerate the diet. It was about 50 percent
fat. It was just slopping with grease in the dish.
And so he said, no, I cant take it. Ill eat more the Western way. And
within a few weeks he was pretty sick. And he had to eat their way. As
soon as he did his body recovered enormously. And he was really fit
and well. He was out on the ice. He could walk 50 miles in a day. He
was really a fit man for his age, and brought back a very interesting
story and wrote a book. But basically in all his time in that territory he
never saw a case of cancer. And its pretty well unknown among the
Inuit. its only when they came into the bases and started eating the
burgers and the colas that they started to get diabetes and heart
disease, cancer the same as the rest of us. And thats a picture that
repeats itself all over the world.
But the real killer in the story Ty is if they go and move into a different
environment and eat somebody elses diet they get sick as dogs just the
same as the rest of us. So its not really a genetic factor. But you know
thats pretty stark epidemiological evidence. You almost dont need any
other cause of cancer if you know that people living the natural lifestyle
in the stone age or aboriginal way like a hunter gatherer and keeping
their lifestyle pure never gets cancer.
Dr. Charles Majors: Every cancer has a cause. Theyre not all the
same. So youre right. Theyre not all the same. Where if someone has
a breast cancer thats hormonal, well, they have a hormonal imbalance,
right. Their liver wasnt able to methylate as well. They werent able to
balance out their estrogen levels. You take someone who has leukemia
or myelomas or lymphomas, these are immune cancers. A lot of these
are from viruses. A lot of these are from non-stop inflammatory
reactions happening in their gut where their immune systems non-stop
working, GMOs, these things effect more immune cancers. Your brain
cancers, which we know are coming from more of a toxicity issue.
Ty: [Dr. Buttar], question for you. You mentioned earlier one of the
toxicities involves the food toxicities. And you mentioned
genetically modified foods. Lets talk about that. Whatif you got a
patient thats a cancer patient what do you recommend as far as
their diet and whether or not they should eat genetically modified
foods? What kind of a cancer diet would you recommend for
somebody to, lets say, prevent cancer as opposed to treat it, just a
cancer preventative type diet?
Ty: So they should wash their food, is that what youre saying by
clean?
Ty: Okay.
Dr. Irvin Sahni: I believe that in 50 years were going to look back at
food now the way we look at smoking 50 years ago. There was
commercials with doctors with cigarettes in their hand saying that
cigarettes are good for you and we would all agree that thats laughable
now. You know, that thats absolute insanity and criminal. And I think
thats probably what were going to be saying about processed foods
and McDonalds and sodas and things like that 50 years from now how
crazy it was that wed really put that stuff into our body and build up a
level of toxicity probably similar in some ways, and maybe even worse
in some ways than from cigarettes, from smoking cigarettes.
Ty: Let me ask you this, one of the common arguments that you
get from those that are producing the GMO crops is that we need
this to feed the world.
Jeffrey Smith: No, no, they need it to pay their salaries. GMOs are so
inept at feeding the world that the biggest paper in the world, the biggest
study, more than 400 scientists sponsored by the UN and signed on by
more than 58 countries concluded that the current generation of GMOs
has nothing to offer feeding the hungry world, eradicating poverty, or
creating sustainable agriculture. Thats the ISTAD report. In fact, the
Union of Concerned Scientists study showed that it actually doesnt
increase yields and the USDA recent study verified that GMOs do not
increase yields, and in many cases, reduce yields. Now not only do they
not increase yields but they concentrate the ownership of agriculture.
They bind farmers in a cycle of dependence on agricultural inputs like
Round-Up. They also disallow farmers from saving seeds year after
year. And by spraying the Round-Up on the Round-Up ready crops it
kills all the other plant bio diversity. We call it weeds in this country.
They call it food in the developing country because they eat a lot of
those greens as part of their biodiversity so its not designed properly for
feeding the hungry world. And its really an accident prone, very
dangerous technology, which we think by its very nature is linked to
diseases.
So one study, for example, this was done in the UK, they fed potatoes
that were genetically engineered to a group of rats. It was engineered to
produce an insecticide. Another group was fed non-GMO potatoes. A
third group was fed non-GM potatoes but their meal was spiked with an
insecticide, the same one that the GM potatoes produced in the same
amount. Only the group that ate the GM potato got sick. Those that ate
the non-GM potato spiked with the insecticide did not. So it wasnt the
insecticide that was being produced by the GM potato that caused the
problem. It was the massive collateral damage, the side effects that
result from the process of genetic engineering that cause the problem.
And one of the problems was potentially pre-cancerous cell growth in
the digestive tract. So they didnt find tumors in these rats but within 10
days their stomach lining was increased by double and this proliferative
cell growth is a precursor to cancer in some cases. They also had
smaller brains, livers, and testicles, partial atrophy of the liver, and a
damaged immune system. And it was not because of the gene, the
specific gene, that was put in. It was because of the process of genetic
engineering, the same generic process thats used on the food that we
eat. That potato was never commercialized but the soy and the corn that
we do eat is produced from the same process that resulted in potentially
pre-cancerous cell growth in the digestive tract of rats in 10 days.
Jeffrey Smith: Well, you can choose your disorder you want to avoid at
this point. I mean you can be avoiding cancer, you can be avoiding
Crohns and colitis and acid reflux, and migraines, so many things weve
heard people describe getting better when they get rid of GMOs. But
absolutely, theres so many ways that GMOsand I have to be careful I
have to say maybe promoting cancer.
And I come back home and I searched out two people I had heard that
had dealt with their cancer on their own. And through some information I
got from one of the two people I had got Bill Hendersons name. and I
got his book. I contacted Bill after I read his book if he would be a coach
and direct me through this. And I followed the protocols of Bill, which is
basically I dealt with my dental issues. I completely changed my diet.
And one of the things I didnt do till a couple years later was deal with
the emotional issues. But the other two issues were enough to look after
the cancer for myself and it was about eight months after I was cancer
free. And since that time, that was in late 2011. I had been working with
a number of people up in my area that have done exactly the same
thing. And a lot of people with more advanced stage cancers than I had
had done the same thing. And Ive had people with stage III and up to
stage IV cancer that within a year had done exactly the same thing.
So I would tell people educate yourself, take the time to find out what
you need to do for yourself. You always get pushed like I did that you
got to do something right away. I always tell people tell your doctor I
need a time out. I want to educate myself and then make a decision that
you feel is right, so. All the best.
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Dr. Robert Scott Bell: And thats why I always start my focal point of
healing for anybody by working with the liver and the gut and then we
are not even necessarily chasing a symptom, chasing a disease, but
were correcting the terrain in you or the environment at its source.
Ian Jacklin: Yeah, yeah, you really got to get that terrain because it
doesnt matter if you cure yourself with chemo, with cannabis hemp oil,
with alkaline diet. its going to come back if you didnt change the train.
Dr. Patrick Quillin: You find a body thats not well, all kinds of
symptoms. We mentioned some of the common killers in America. And
from those symptoms the first thing we would do is say were going to
take you just like that piece of land, lets detoxify you first. Lets take out
the heavy metals, the volatile organic chemicals. Studies have been
done looking at Americans where these are legitimate labs, FDA
approved labs, that have looked at urinary output from volatile organic
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If youre doing things right, if you eat right, if you dont drink too much
alcohol, drugs, antibiotics, then youre going to have a healthy level of
bacteria in the gut and it will make you healthy. If you dont things right
those organisms start generating their own toxins which are them
absorbed into the blood stream. And if things really get ugly then you
mightyour intestinal lumen will become dysfunctional, hyper
permeable and now what you have is whats supposed to be a screen
door that keeps the bugs out. Now weve got tears and rips in it. Now we
have micro organisms moving into the blood stream. its called bacterial
translocation. And now you have yeast, candida albicans bacteria,
yeast, virus, other organisms that can move into the blood stream and
generate autoimmune diseases, even cancer. Theres a whole chapter
in my book, Beating Cancer with Nutrition, that talks about is cancer in
some cases actually an infection? And thats a whole fascinating
subject. Back to the business of what does a garden have to do with our
body? Detoxify.
Dr. Rashid Buttar: The word detoxification is like the word love. its
cheap. Everybody uses it but few people know what it means. Okay. If
you can effectively, and thats the key operative word, effectively
detoxify the body of these seven toxicities chronic disease cant exist So
what were saying is that if you can eliminate the oxidative stress from
these seven different causes then you can actually eliminate these
supposedly incurable diseases. The interesting thing about autism and
cancer, the commonality, is theyre both situations of an impaired ability
to detoxify.
Ty: And so thats the way that you treat both autism and cancer is
removing the trash.
Ty: So how do we get rid of heavy metals from our body? Thats a
real problem. How do we do it? Its a technique called chelation .
chelationc-h-e-l-eis a Latin word that means to claw. And so
these substances go in your body and they claw the heavy metals.
They bind to them and you excrete them. Lets go to talk to Dr.
Rashid Buttar in North Carolina. Hes an expert at chelation
therapy and detoxification.
Dr. Rashid Buttar: You dont use chelation to treat cancer or autism.
You treat chelation to remove heavy metals. And heavy metals cause
oxidative stress and its the oxidative stress that is the commonality in all
the toxicities that lead to disease. Remember I said its toxicity and a
deficiency, right. So in the toxicity youve got those seven toxicities that I
mentionedheavy metals, persistent organic glutens, the opportunistic,
the energetics, the negative energetic, the emotional psychological, the
foods, and what we do to foods, and then the spiritual, the seven
toxicities. The mechanism of action of all the seven toxicities is the
same. its oxidative injury.
Ty: Okay. When you say oxidative injury, what do you mean?
Dr. Rashid Buttar: Im talking about the free radical reaction or the
reduction reaction called oxidation or oxidative injury which is nothing
more than the rusting process. Think of a banana, you peel it and in five
minutes it starts turning brown. Thats the rusting process. Thats free
radical damage. Thats oxidation thats going on. An apple, you cut it,
within five minutes it starts turning brown. Thats happening to the body
constantly. Theres certain things that accelerate that oxidative injury.
So the body has natural mechanisms to reduce that damage but theres
certain things that we get exposed to that accelerate that damage and
that acceleration of that damage comes from the seven toxicities. So
heavy metals is a first one because thats really the order in which it was
revealed to me as I evolved in my understanding of this process. And so
heavy metals is that first one , the oxidative injury. You can actually get
oxidative injury from also essential minerals, copper, selenium, iron, in
too high of a dose will also act as a heavy metal and cause that
oxidative injury. So chelation is the process to remove the burden of
those metals to help to reduce the free radical reaction. Thats really
what it comes down to.
Now you mentioned about autism and cancer and we have had great
results in both, and we have, weve treated over 19 hundred cases of
autism in the last 17 years and my protocols been used well over 30
thousand children now worldwide from doctors that have used our
protocol. But its interesting that autism is considered non-treatable and
cancer is considered non-treatable. And weve had this tremendous
success in both areas. Why? Because the philosophy is sound. You
eliminate these seven toxicities and by definition chronic disease cant
exist. The key operative word is you have to effectively detoxify the body
of these seven toxicities.
Dr. Leigh Erin Connealy: Were individuals and so I might not be able
to handle one little anything of mercury and you might be able tooh, I
can handle this. I can manage it. But the EPA says, the Environmental
Protection Agency says theres no safe level of these metalsarsenic,
mercury, aluminum, in your body. And so we have to eat foods that help
us detoxify.
Ty: What do we do? [Mike], what are you doing now to prevent
cancer from a dietary perspective?
Mike Adams: Youre the first person to have asked me this on camera
and a lot of the research Im going to cite here has just been completed.
Ive done extensive research on whats called a metals capturing
capacity of different types of foods. I call it the MCC where I test using a
synthetic gastric acid digestion simulator that I built in the lab, I test
foods versus contaminants. And I find out how much of the contaminant
gets bound to the food. And thereby carried out of your digestive tract as
insoluble fiber rather than being absorbed through your intestinal walls
and going into your blood. This is a key concept to understand to
answer your question. Processed foods have very low capturing
capacity because the fibers are typically processed out of them. Theyre
also structurally compromised through processing. Theyre de-natured
in other words.
Mike Adams: Right. But if you are eating a diet of unprocessed fresh
foods, this is a whole plant-based diet, what we have found is that
natural plants, fresh produce, such as strawberries have very high
natural metals capturing capacity. Theyre able to bind with the metals
mostly through physical processes of absorption and adsorption as well.
Some foods have selective ionic affinity to specific metals such as lead.
Mike Adams: That they have a chemical reaction that binds up the
metal. Yeah. its chemistry taking place in the acidic environment of your
stomach typically with your own gastric acid. Strawberries will bind with
over 90 percent of your dietary mercurystrawberries. And the reason
this is the case is because strawberries are the only common fruit that
has seeds on the outside of the fruit. The seeds being on the outside,
how are they grown? How are they produced by the strawberry? Well,
there are strands, fibers, that send nutrients to the seeds from the
center of the strawberry. The center is where it gets its nutrition. It
distributes it through the fibers to the seeds. These fibers, which are
transparent practically under a microscope, happen to be very, very
tough fibers. They will not be digested by nitric acid in the laboratory.
Ty: Wow.
Mike Adams: I can take strawberries, I can put them, mix nitric acid.
Were talking like 70 percent nitric acid, very strong oxidizer that would
burn the skin right off your hand. It will not digest the fibers in the
strawberry. The fibers survive human digestion which is far weaker than
nitric acid digestion. I mean in orders of magnitude.
Ty: Sure.
Mike Adams: The strawberries then will bind to the dietary mercury
with these fibers and that gets pushed out of your system through bowel
movements. The mercury is gone. its out. It never gets pulled into your
blood stream through intestinal walls. So many different types of fruits
and vegetables have very interesting affinities to heavy metals. And this
is what our research has really uncovered. The only thing that we found
better than strawberries, by the way, is chlorella, which is about 98 99
percent efficacy. But chlorella doesnt work for other things such as
uranium. Chlorella doesnt absorb much uranium, spirulina does, but not
strawberries. So one of the things that Ive done in the lab is whether its
radioactive elements such as cesium-137 or customary heavy metals
like mercury, arsenic, things that cause cancerarsenic is linked to
cancer, right. Oh, and by the way, you know what tends to absorb
arsenic?
Ty: Uh-uh
Ty: Okay.
want seeds in it. If you buy blueberry jelly you dont want blueberry
seeds in it.
Mike Adams: its the seeds that bind with the dietary arsenic and
transport it out of your body. Yeah, I havent released that information
yet. Youre the first person to, I mean, to have this conversation.
Ty: Dr. Wolfe, talk about your family, the history of your family and
how thats impacted you as well.
Dr. Darrell Wolfe: Alright, well, Im going to talk about three people
being my grandfather, and my mother and father. Ill make it short and
sweet. My grandfather ended up getting rectal cancer, okay. And he
was a beer drinker. But if youreif you drink three beers a day--the
best way to get rectal cancer is three beers a day, right, if you do not
detox. Remember something. In the medical system theres two things
they never talk about because theyre not allowed to talk about and that
is diet and that is detox. Meanwhile, if you talked about diet and you
talked about detox you wouldnt need the medical system except for
emergencies and things of that nature. Alright? We all have a place to
play but when we get greedy and we try to own everything thats when
corruption comes in. So anyways, my grandfather got colon cancer, he
came with us to stay with us, and then he went into the hospital. What
happened was he got impacted so he was in pain. Well, and they
couldnt do anything for him. We brought him home We got himwe
broke the impaction which was in his bowels. We got him on a proper
juicing and cleansing diet. This is when I was younger like I was a
teenager that we did this. And we got rid of his pain but we didnt get rid
of his cancer. It was way too late.
Then there was my father. My father lived in Nova Scotia, I was living in
Toronto. I was inI had a clinic for only about four years now. So
anyways, he gets leukemia. I get a call from my brother. My brother
says, dads in the hospital. Hes got leukemia. I said why didnt he call
me. Well, of course hes not going to call you Darrell, youre just going to
get mad at him. And I said hes got leukemia Marcel. And he said, yeah,
but theyre only giving him two weeks to live. I said, Marcel, you listen to
this. I know one thing and thats one thing for sure. Nobody is allowed to
play God. The next thing is, okay, nobodys allowed to give an expiry
date. And the only reason they can give an expiry date, okay, alright, is
because they go by rules. Those rules are were not going to teach you
about diet, were not going to teach you about detoxification, were going
to give you some drugs and were going to send you home and let you
continue to do what caused the cancer. And were not going to do
anything else. And then were going to attack with the three bigwith
the big three cancer treatments, right? So anyways, I said, Marcel, you
go into that hospital and you get a wheelchair and you get him out of
there. Darrell, they said that theyre not going to let him go, hes got two
weeks to live. I said, listen to me, hes only got two weeks to live. If you
have to take a baseball bat in there you do it but you get him out. So he
got him out. He put him on a plane. When he landed in Toronto, okay,
he had cold sores all over his lips. Histhe eyeshis eyes were yellow.
His skin was yellow and he was like just drooping down. My heart just
broke. And I just went, okay, so we took him home. Ill make a long story
short. Hes got two weeks to live, right? Two weeks laterI wont tell
you what we did but two weeks later my father had his suitcases packed
to go visit his cousin. Okay. and they couldnt find the leukemia six
weeks later in his system. We dont have time for that right now. But this
story can be verified.
The next thing is my mother calls me 12 months after this, okay, and
she calls me up. She cant talk. Her boyfriend says to me, listen, your
mothers in trouble. They want to cut her tongue out and they want to
cut a piece off her butt. And make a tongue for her because shes got
mouth cancer. I said shes got to come see me. So she lived in
Kitchener so she came to Toronto. So she cant even speak. She
speaks like this. And she couldnt even talk. Well, anyways, I put her
we did fasting, we did some cleansing, we did a bunch of things, right. In
eight days my motheryou couldshe could talk and you could hear
her. You could understand her talking. So right away we know were
Ty: So Dr. Wolfe, you have written a pamphlet that I think has
been turned into a little booklet. its called, Spoiled Rotten. And
that has to do with what youve been talking about, people that are
walking around that look like they may be pregnant but theyre
really not. Can you talk about Spoiled Rotten.
Dr. Darrell Wolfe: Well Ty, Spoiled Rottenhmmyou know what that
means? What does spoiled rotten mean Ty?
Ty: Well, I mean typically we hear spoiled rotten and you think of a
child that you have spoiled rotten. But in this case it means
something different, doesnt it?
Dr. Darrell Wolfe: It means that you do no longer take ownership for
your decision making. It means that you no longer take ownership for
your decision making or for the responsibility of the body that youve
been given. Think about this one. We have been given a body and a
chance to come down here and experience a life here. Okay. We have
everything we need. We even have more than everything we need. But
meanwhile, everybody is in pain. Now why are they in pain? Because
theyre spoiled rotten. Okay. Because they have a conscious level.
Most people haveand Im not trying to down people, okay, and I mean
that. But most people have a conscious level, Ty, of four inches. Thats
from their mouth to the back of their throat. And then they have 30 feet
of hell. Okay. And we have been brainwashed to only have four inches
of pleasure and give up 30 feet. Now why are we spoiled rotten? Well, I
don't know Ty. How many people can go to the wash room and they
dont leave a stink in the washroom? How many do not wake up with
bad breath. Bad breath is not something you ate yesterday. Bad breath
is cause because you have food stuffs that have been rotting in you not
for days, not for weeks, but for years. You know what Ty, a person will
change the vacuum cleaner bag out when its full because they dont
want to burn out the engine. The average guy will make sure that he has
his oil change and tune up on his car. You wont allow the garbage to sit
under the sink for more than a day because it might stink up your
house.
But you know what, you have the conscious level of thought that you will
allow yourself to use toxic chemicals under your arms, you will use
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breath mints and brush your teeth many times to hide the putrefaction
thats happening in your stomach. You use spray and deodorant
throughout your house and mainly in your bathroom to hide the rot thats
inside of you. You give me on symptom tie from the top of your head to
your toe and I will tell you that if you got into gentle daily cleansing of
your detoxification system which is your large intestine which is the
mother of all organs, it is the mother of all organs. It is more important
than any other organ in the human body because how could your blood
be dirty, your liver be overtaxed? How could your kidneys be in trouble?
How could you have skin conditions? How could you have mucous
coming out your eyes? Okay. How could any of this happen unless you
are reabsorbing your own toxic waste allowing your large intestine which
is the sewer system of your body to become a cesspool. What does a
cesspool breed Ty? A cesspool breads parasites, viruses, bacteria,
fungus, that is a parasite party. And then what are you going to do?
Listen to me. They dont tell you to detoxify because they know that
detoxification is the greatest weapon against the medical system. If you
dont detoxify then that means that youre going to have inflammation
youre going to have pain. Eventually that pain is going to bring your
immune system down just like draining a battery and you dont know
why. When that battery gets drained then anythingwe take in viruses,
bacteria every day but they dont harm us because were strong. But
they allow you to drain your energy out because youre a sugar carbo
junkie. And you eat dead foods and guess what dead foods dont
vibrate. They dont have energy so it sucks the living force out of you.
Theyre winning again. Then when that happens Ty youre in so much
bloody pain that now this infection comes in, a bad bacteria has a feast
on you and now what? Youve got some kind of illness. You got to the
doctor. Well, hes just going to write you a script for an antibiotic. 250
million scripts are written every year for antibiotics. Nowand thats in
the United States. You need to take one course of antibiotics to totally
create a life of hell if you dont know how to detoxify because what
happens is when you take those antibiotics to kill off that invader what
happens then?
What that does is it takes the good bacteria which are the main part
you know, the main part of your immune system lives in your large
intestine and thats your good bacteria. They do more than youll ever
dream of. Now those good bacteriawhat happens when antibiotics
come in they dont all get killed off because remember something,
antibiotics go in and they obliterate. So when they go in they take that
good bacteria and they change it over to a bad bacteria. That bad
bacteria now, guess what, you just finished yourself. Because
remember something, 85 percent of all pain is where? Oh my god, right
here. Well, wouldnt that make us wake up. Oh, let me see here. Im in
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pain here all the time. Whats happening? And then that creates pain
through other parts of the body. So now those bad bacteria, what do
they crave Ty? And tell me, the medical system knows this.
Dr. Darrell Wolfe: Thats right, sugar and carbohydrates. So, you know,
look at people how they drink wine now every night. Thats good
marketing but they crave that. They crave alcohol. They crave chips.
They crave pop, anything with sugar in it and then that sugar goes in
and guess what it does? It feeds those bad bacteria and they give off
whats called endotoxin. That endotoxin goes into your body and creates
more inflammation. That inflammation then creates acidosis which is the
root cause of all disease because now youre messing with your pH.
That acidosis creates crystallization. Listen to me. The older you get
youre like wood, youre like board. Youre stiff. Oh my achy joints. Well,
thats all crystallization. And what happens when you have pain in the
body? The body goes into helping you. It goes into a mode of helping.
What does it do? It sends fibrin which is like scar tissue to an area. So if
youre always in inflammation youre going to have tons of scar tissue. If
you have tons of scar tissue youre blocking your circulation. If youre
blocking your circulation youre creating mutation. Let me tell you
something. Antibiotics theyre pushed more than anything else. And
antibiotics are what are going to bring people down and create a life of
hell of they dont start detoxifying
trauma theyre the best in the world. But in degenerative disease there
are certain drugs and heroic surgeries. I would have been blindIm
87without these cataracts removed and I have lenses sewn in. I can
see close with one eye and its amazing what a wonderful medicine can
do. But dont confuse that with degenerative disease where they
become legalized drug pushers and paying no attention to the immune
system except to cut it out when they find cancer near the breast. So
you must fractionalize the molecules and open up.
Now very few cancer clinics use it and need it and do it. But thats one
of the ways you get the immune system functioning optimally.
Ty: So Dr. Wolfe, tell us what we can do the people that are
watching that had that belly that look like theyre pregnant but
theyre not. . How do we get rid of the toxicity internally now?
Youve given us the step that we can do externally. How do we get
rid of the belly?
Dr. Darrell Wolfe: Well Ty, Ill tell you something. You know, Ive
worked withwhen I ran my other clinic we had over 200 products
because you get lost in this whole product thing. Im not there anymore.
its the simple steps in life that actually make the big differences, okay. I
use a product called Master Cleanse Tea and I want to just say this that
I already said that you need to do things gently on the body. We need to
start loving the body, not attacking the body. Weve been taught to
attack it, right. its like its the war on cancer. You know what? When you
attack cancer you attack the whole human body. Anyways, so we need
to gently love it. So I have my patients and people who are interested in
detoxifying do whats called Master Cleanse Tea. It takes like iced tea.
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They do this. They drink only an eight ounce glass twice a day. Now
how difficult is that? its inexpensive. its simple. its effective and thats
all we have to do because see once you start cleansing out the large
intestine, okay, and how long does the large intestine take to clean? Do
you want to know? Not two weeks, not three weeks. Did you know that
the normal large intestine with no problems to it if youve never done a
detox takes nine months. So after doing the tea for nine months now the
tea is going in and its working on your liver, working on your blood
stream. Do you understand? So a little bit every day will keep
everything else away? Do you understand?
Ty: Yeah
Dr. Darrell Wolfe: So thats a really important thing. The other thing is
remember I told you that the core is really important. So what you put
into your mouth just ask yourself this one thing, because there is no
such thing as a neutral food. Will this food give me life? Does it breath
life or will this bring in toxins? Thats all you need to ask yourself. The
more man touches it the less I want to eat it. The closer it is to nature
when I replug myself in I will be healthy and I will be vibrant. That is that.
So what we have our patients do is we have them do things like
rebounding. Rebounding is one of the best exercises against cancer
and every other disease because it moves your lymph system better
than anything else and moving your lymph is the most important thing
against cancer and disease.
Ty: Thats fasting Dr. Wolfe. Tell me why, tell us why, why is
rebounding so important?
Dr. Darrell Wolfe: Well, let meremember what I said. I always want
you to question people. I want all my patients. I say you question me
and you question everyone else. If theyre not speaking logic, if one and
one dont make two or if you go there and you go Im confused, or if you
feel fear from something I said chances are Im lying or I don't know Im
lying. Okay. So rebounding, think about it. When your children were
young and they couldnt walk and they were like little babies and they
were crying, what did you for the Ty? Do you remember? You bounced
them on your knee or you rocked them on your shoulder. Whyd you do
that? Because you arent totally brainwashed. You still have some
instinct left. So you rock the baby, right. And you rock the baby because
the only way that the lymph system can move is by up and down
motion. And your lymph system, okay, youve got eight pints of blood
but youve got 12 quarts of lymph. Dont you forget that. And when you
find that youre getting all puffy and swollen thats your lymph system
and youre in big trouble. So you know, when people they swell up like a
puff ball, well, thats because theyre retaining water because theyre so
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bloody toxic and theyve been backing up waste for years. So when you
start cleansing out the colon and you rebound youre moving that stuff. If
you move the circulation its like if the water doesnt move you better not
drink it because its going to kill you because it has to circulate. So
rebounding also exercises every cell individually toning it.
Well, that fluid doesnt jump back into your veins. It has to go
somewhere. Thats why some people get edema. Theyll get swelling in
their ankles and swelling in different parts of their bodies. Well, how
does thatwhere does that fluid go? Does it just disappear? Is goes
into your lymph system so your lymph system is a system of vessels.
Theres different components to it but your lymph system is a system
ofits likeits kind of like vessels. They dont have muscular walls like
bigger arteries but the lymph system grabs this fluid and then returns it
back into the system, ultimately back into the venous system through a
large duct in your chest called your thoracic duct. But this extra fluid sort
of bleeds out through these capillaries will then feed back into that
system. It also passes through other parts of your body including your
spleen. Okay. Thats also sort of considered part of your lymphatic
system, your thymus, your tonsils, and your adenoids what a lot of
people have removed as a child. Theres lymph tissue or theres
lymphocytes and those lymphocytes recognize pathogens, viruses,
bacteria, or things that are considered non-self that your body builds
immunity through those lymphocytes which is whats effective when
someone has an immune deficiency disorder whether you believe in HIV
virus or not. Theres certain immune deficiency disorders and T4 cells
and helper cells, different classes of cells are effected when the immune
system falters. And those are the little soldiers that are facing these
pathogens, these bacteria, these antigens, toxins even as they pass
through the lymphatic system and sort of as akind of like your oil filter,
I guess, theyre filtering out some of the nasty stuff. So the reason
jumping on a trampoline is useful is because your lymphatic system
unlike other parts like your muscles or your heart or your skeletal
muscle, it doesnt have its own muscle. It doesnt have a muscle
wrapped around it like arteries have muscle around them. its called the
tunica, tunica media. its what helps vascular changes. You can actually
change the pressure by those muscles clamping down or letting go.
Well, the lymphatic system doesnt have that ability. And so it depends
on the skeletal muscles for that return. So by compressing your thighs,
by just simply walking youre actually pushing lymph through your body.
its sort of passively pushed through by the other muscles in your body.
And so by hopping on a trampoline youre basically forcing those
muscles to contract and youre helping that drainage instead of having it
collect in your ankles like you see people with swollen ankles, youre
helping some of that return. And thats why when people start having
problems with blood pressure and their heart they sometimes will get
swollen ankles because that big pressure differential is pushing all that
fluid out into their interstitial tissues and their lymph system cant keep
up especially if theyre sedentary. If theyre sitting around, theyre sick,
theyre hurt, they have cardiothey have congestive heart failure and
their heart has poor return so they get dizzy quickly. Theyre not going to
be able to get up and walk around to help push that lymph back into
their venous system. And so a healthy person can just constantly
contract their muscles and keep that going. It also prevents you from
that constant activity is what also helps you from getting deep vein
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Ty: Dr. Sahni, talk about far infrared saunas. I know that youre a
big proponent of far infrareds. Talk about the effect that this can
have on cancer.
Dr. Irvin Sahni: So far infrared saunas, the way they work is relatively
simple. They exploit or take advantage of a portion of the
electromagnetic spectrum that basically increases the temperature of
the body, creates hypothermia without exposing the body to some of the
negative portion of the spectrum which we know is the ultraviolet
spectrum. Go out in the sun too much you can get skin cancer
especially if you dont wear sunscreen and youre light complected. So
far infrared sauna takes a part of that spectrum that creates heat but not
necessarily damage in the way that being out in the sun does. I think the
Indians were probablyyou know, the American Indians were people
who were doing these more ritualistic heat treatments on themselves
long before far infrared saunas were around kind of. Maybe they didnt
understand the science behind it but they knew it was good for you. But
basically what it does is it raises your body temperature and then your
body has to release that heat. The way we release our heat is by
sweating and that sweating helpsthe sweat helps carry the heat away
from the body. So by stimulating that mechanism people dont realize
this but you excrete just as much urea, okay, through your skin, maybe
more. Id have to go back and look up the numbers, but a significant
amount of toxins are excreted through your skin as they are in your
urine or your stool. And in some cases probably specific toxins even
more. And so by exposing yourself to a reasonable timeframe and a
reasonable level, a safe level of heat you can just basically stimulate
your body to sort of accelerate that excretion of toxins and you can
make that happen faster.
The other reason a far infrared sauna is so useful is that normal cells
are able to withstand heat because of their normal anatomy compared
to the abnormal anatomy of say a cancer cell especially in relation to its
vascular supply. And so a cancer cell doesnt do well in a hyper thermic
situation. This has been shown in mainstream science to be the case.
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Dr. Linda Isaacs: I believe so. Now I have to put in a disclaimer when I
say something like that since we live in a litigious world. So Ill say that
Im not telling any of your audienceIm not advising them to do it. They
need to get instruction on how to do it properly. But having said that,
yes, I do think that theyre beneficial for anybody. And I think most
people find they feel better with them. And so they tend to sell
themselves. None of our patients coming in for the first time ever believe
this. But I tell them its going to be your favorite part of the program. And
they come back and say youre absolutely right. I never miss the coffee
enemas because they made me feel so much better.
Ty: What is it about the coffee in the enemas that helps to detoxify
the body?
cause the liver to release all its toxins. Nothing helps the liver clean out
faster and more efficiently and more effectively than coffee enemas.
And for cancer patients when youre breaking down a tumor quickly with
the enzyme you got all this tumor debris that can be deadly and life
threatening. It gets the liver to work better so they process these tumor
wastes very effectively. And then you just poop them out with the
enemas.
Ty: Oxygen
Ty: Okay. And a free radical is oxygen atom is missing one of them.
Ty: Okay.
Ty: Right.
Paul Barattiero: So in our body being taxed and taxed and taxed not
only toxins but were actually oxidizing our cells or thats what free
radicals do is theyre stealing electrons and electrons are the fuel. its
got to function electrically. Youve got to have those electrons. So when
we have water thats properly structured with a negative electrical
charge, for instance, theres a net gain or an increase of one electron
which can be donated to complete those free radicals. its basically what
an antioxidant does. Any antioxidant that people are choosing has an
extra electron and thats how antioxidants function with the cellular
system.
Ty: So and then they donate that extra electron to the oxygen
atom thats missing the electron.
Ty: Then what Im hearing you say is that if you have water thats
structured properly it can act the same way as antioxidants which
everybody knows antioxidants are good.
So that metal is being oxidized because the electrons are being taken
from it not added to it. So youre weakening its structure. And ultimately
positive electrical charge is great from a sterilization perspective but not
from an antioxidant. its actually an oxidant and thats great for killing
bacteria and viruses because you want to oxidize them or steal their
ability to function. But when it comes to our body we dont want to do
that to us. We want to have the opposite charge, the negative electrical
charge so that were giving electricity back to us or were donating
electrons to us. So effectively structured water is water that has that
proper electrical charge with the proper mineral content and it therefore
when you think of any structure, a house or what have you, its the
foundation. its the support mechanism to hold up the rest of that. Water
needs to be structured. It needs that foundational electrical charge and
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the mineral content to support the way the water clusters are bonded
and functioning together.
Simple, life changing steps will keep you away from all disease. And
they will also pull you out of being fearful all the time because youre just
doing the right things and loving your body. If we gently cleanse every
day and we dont allow the toxins to build up why would you let all this
waste buildup and feel real crappy and then dump the load like a dump
truck and you cant handle it? So when you get up in the morning just
like the animals, what do they do? Well, first thing animals do in the
morning when they wake up because we are part of nature and were
disconnected from nature. When we return to nature we will never have
to live in fear again. So the first thing you want to make sure you do
every morning is have a really good bowel movement and really
evacuate and clean out properly. Then you want to hydrate like we
should do. You want to drinkif you weigh 200 pounds then you need
to drink a 100 ounces of purified structured dynamic water a day. And
you want to drinkso that would be like four quarters, right Ty?
Ty: Uh-huh
Dr. Darrell Wolfe: But guess what? You want to drink two and a half
quarters by noon and you want to have the other one and a half quarts
drank by 5:00 because thats when youre all heated up an you like
eradicate or you want to keep your body cool. And you want that
detoxification to happen. So if you dont eat whole plant based diet and
drink plenty of water and then take something like a master cleansing
herbal concoction that will go in and gently cleanse your body of what
you pick up each day then Ill tell you something youre going to need a
dump truck. Do you notice how every group has an icon like a figure that
they look up to? For the medical system whats their icon? Their icon is
Hippocrates. Hippocrates was the father of medicine. And if you dont
mind Id like to read this because I dont want to get it wrong. So their
leader who they look up to because they took the Hippocratic oath,
right? Okay. This is what they look up. Let food by thy medicine and
medicine by thy food. I don't know. They dont talk about diet. I mean
thats the root of all life. So right there theyve failed greatly. Make a
habit of two things, to help or at least do no harm. Meanwhile weve got
a war on cancer. You cant go to war with anything Ty. You want to go
to war with me. What happens?
Dr. Darrell Wolfe: Thats right. Next thingnatural forces within us are
the true healers of disease. So where have they forgotten, they have
forgotten, I havent forgotten, you havent forgotten, so we must go
within and we must understand something, that nobodys going to save
your butt Ty. When you got that body and you came down here on that
planet you made a promise to somewhere somehow that you were
doing to respect and love your body and you were going to make the
decisions. Every decision, okay, has a consequence and it can be either
good or bad. Now do you let somebody else look after your finances
Ty? Well, why would you let someone else look after your body? Okay.
One last thing that Hippocrates stated. Whenever a doctor cannot do
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Terri: Hi, my name is Terri. And let me tell you about my story, my
recovery from stage IV breast cancer. Okay. In 2002 I was diagnosed
with breast cancer and I went through the medical route. I didI had
surgery, chemotherapy, radiation, I ended up a mastectomy. Every year
once a year the cancer would come back. And then after the doctors
started to give me a chemotherapy which was a pill, which was toxic my
husband wasnt allowed to touch it with his hands but Im supposed to
swallow it twice a day.
And after thatand the doctor said, well, this will give you a few more
months. And at that point it was stage IV cancer. I went through it. I had
these side effects which burned my hands and the bottoms of my feet.
And it felt like I was walking on rocks with sunburned feet At that point in
[Music]
Ty: Welcome back and thanks for tuning in. I hope you enjoyed
last nights show. Youre really going to enjoy tonights show. Last
night, we learned about how to detoxify your body, how to get the
bad guys out, how to clean out your system and flush them out.
Tonight, were going to teach you how to fill it back up with the
good stuff because when youre bodys full of the good stuff,
which were going to teach you tonight your immune systems
going to work the way its supposed to and youre going to be able
to fend off cancer that way that your body was intended to. Maybe
theres people out there that think cancer is eating away your body
and maybe it is. Were going to teach you how to eat away at
cancer. Tonights episode is going to be extremely powerful so
grab a pen and paper. Youre going to want to take notes.
Now first off I want you to listen to what Dr. Rashid Buttar has to
say about alternative versus advanced medicine.
Dr. Rashid Buttar: I dont call this alternative because I know some
people call it that. I call this advanced medicine. Why do I call it
advanced medicine? Very simple. Because youve got conventional,
and lets use bypass surgery as an example, of something thats been
around for 60 years, right. Thats considered traditional conventional.
But something like acupuncture that has over six thousand years of
history is called alternative, non-conventional. So how can you take
something thats only got a 50 year track record and call that traditional
and take something with five thousand or six thousand years of history
and call that non-traditional? You see its a total misnomer.
Ty: [Dr. Isaacs], can you talk about the importance of nutrition in
treating cancer? Why does it place such a big role?
Dr. Linda Isaacs: Well, part of the issue with the work that we do is
that as patients take the pancreatic enzymes and the enzymes work on
the body, you need the body to be as strong as possible to handle that
whole process because a lot of waste materials are formed. And if
youre eating in effect a lot of things that need to be processed and
gotten rid of like pesticide residues or sprays or waxes or chemicals,
those sorts of things. We think that that just puts an extra load on the
body to process and deal with that kind of thing. So you need good
quality food to be able to have the energy to fight the cancer and to get
rid of the waste materials as the enzymes work on cancer. And certainly
I think that nutritional issues can have a big part of why people get
cancer in the first place. So it doesnt make sense to think that an illness
that is created by a lifestyle can be managed without modifying that
lifestyle. In other words, why would you want to go back to the same
lifestyle that got you to where you didnt want to be?
Mike Adams: What you eat and drink is digested, right, and it becomes
your blood composition. Your blood is made of what you eat and drink.
And people say, yeah, I get that. Okay. Great! Unless you think your
blood is made magically, which it doesnt happen. So then your blood
circulates throughout your body, your blood brings the materials that
them become your organs that fuel your brain, your cognitive function,
that fuel the function of all your organs, and that replenish and rebuild all
the cells of the body. As you lose cells you build new cells. You replace
cells. So clearly whats in your blood becomes your physical body, right?
And they say, yeah right, I get that. So then, you literally are what you
eat physically. its an inescapable conclusion. So if youre eating junk, if
youre eating toxins, if youre eating heavy metals, your body, your
brain, your organs, your skin, everything thats in your physical body
becomes junk, becomes toxic
Ty: Wow!
Mike Adams: becomes processed, not natural. That idea is not yet
recognized by the entire system of modern medicine with all its claimed
advances, with all the billions of dollars that have gone into the cancer
research industry. They still cannot yet grasp a simple concept that a
five-year-old understands almost automatically. You are what you eat.
Dr. Roby Mitchell: Almost any cancer doctor now that uses this, what
we call, alternative therapies to any degree of success the first thing that
they will have patients do is change what you eat. Youve got to change
that internal environment, right, so you can give these cells the heads
up that youre not going to have to try to survive in a toxic environment
anymore. When that happens then they start to pleomorph back into
normal cells because its much easier physiologically to live as a normal
cell, right. Normal cells go through what we call oxidative
phosphorylation which means you take oxygen, you take sugar and you
make 32 molecules of this ATP which is our energy currency, right.
Dr. Roby Mitchell: Anaerobic means you dont have to have oxygen,
right.
Ty: Okay.
Dr. Roby Mitchell: That means that I can survive without oxygen, right,
which makes me able to survive in a more toxic environment but it
makes my energy level a lot more restricted. So then thats why cancer
cells are so ravenous about having to absorb sugar, right, because they
can only make two ATP per molecule.
Ty: Because cancer cells love sugar, you hear that phrase all the
time and that explains why that phrase came about.
Dr. Roby Mitchell: Correct! You know, one of the tests that we use to
diagnose cancer is a PET scan. So with a PET scan we take radiated
sugar, right, and we inject it in you because cancer cells take up sugar
so much more efficiently than normal cells they will take up that radiated
sugar and then were able to see on the CAT scan where the sugar is,
which that tells us where the cancer is, right? So yeah, so were very
aware of the dependence on cancer cells for prodigious amounts of
sugar. And thats why, again, cancerI mean cancer patients die of
starvation is because the cancer cells will suck up all the sugar from
normal cells.
Ty: That leads me to the question then when you see a cancer
patient, and what is it called when a cancer patient dies of
starvation. Its
Ty: Cachexia
Ty: its called cachexia. When you see a patient that has cachexia
and lets say their oncologist says youre wasting away, go out and
eat anything you want. Is that wise advice?
Dr. Roby Mitchell: Thats like you being stranded in the middle of the
ocean and thirsty and you drink salt water.
Ty: So I mean I don't know how many patients that Ive dealt with
over the years that have come and said, you know, Im losing
weight. Im in the cachexia cycle. And my oncologist has told me to
go eat ice cream, cake, whatever will put the weight on me.
UCLA, that were in the biosphere and the whole thing was about they
were going to grow the food that they used. And so its going to be a
self-sustained environment and they werent getting anything in or out of
it. Theyd have to grow what they needed.
That it actually is kind of like if you would say if there was a fountain of
youth it would extend life, delay disease, enhance performance,
optimize weight, increase mental clarity and start going down the list of
things that are beneficial from doing this approach. So if you now take
calorie restriction and you add optimal nutrition most people would
agree that if you ate less calories but you max out the nutrients and get
all these 51 that were talking about at the same time that it has got to
be better for you than either eating a lot of calorically dense food or a
little bit of calorically dense food. You see what Im saying. So that piece
is a very important piece of the puzzle.
And the last of the four groups was the calorie restriction group
combined with fish oil and this group lived an average of 400 days
longer than the 232 day control. So 600 and something days versus 200
and something days. So thats a fascinating little study. And as I always
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say, if youre a mouse you really ought to be thinking about this kind of
nutrition. But anyway, now this does translate in a lot of ways. It just
shows the high impact that nutrition could actually be.
Ty: SU.VI.MAX?
Dr. Leigh Erin Connealy: No, its completely opposite of what you
hear.
Ty: Right.
KC Craichy: You know, most cancer centers you go to today will tell
you that you are not to take antioxidants during cancer treatment
because the process which we are using, theyre telling you, is an
oxidative process and our goal is to use that process for your benefit to
try to bring about the killing of cancer cells so that beforeso if you
used antioxidants they would essentially quench what were trying to do.
But the research does not back that up. Ive now seen multiple studies
on this particular presentation said that canceror taking antioxidants
during cancer treatment extends the patient life outcome dramatically
than those who do not receive antioxidants during. Antioxidants are by
nature anti-inflammatory, okay, and by nature anti-glycotant [ph]. So in
other words, antiglycation and by
Say if you twist your ankle youre going to get aggressive inflammation
and the inflammation is going to draw the angiogenesis to the area to
where the body will release new blood flow to the area and then when
the chronic situation is over with or when the acute situation is over with
it will pull back the vessels and youre fine. its the chronic angiogenesis
thats the problem. In a cancer cell, most cancer cells, they will hide and
then get a blood supply through angiogenesis which is chronic
angiogenesis which is a big problem. The point Im making here is this
corner, the antioxidant corner, when youre addressing all five of these
classes, those things actually address, they regulate these four major
processes that underlie the disease. So if you control oxidation and
inflammation and glycation and angiogenesis you cana disease
cannot progressI mean Im oversimplifying it. But if you take these
foundational root power of a disease away its going to really stunt the
growth of whatever that disease is trying to do. And you can do that
through nutrition. Weve seen that.
Dr. Robert Scott Bell: We need to look also at the mineral content for
the connective tissue. I talked about silica. Most of the foods
unfortunately that we eat have been robbed of these trace elements
because industry has found it much more profitable to take those
minerals and use them for different reasons, and they leave us with the
deficient foods. So we talk about something like silica. You could go to
something like the horsetail extract, something that you could grow and
make into a tea yourself or concentrate in whole food form from a tea.
And now you have an abundance of silica which, again, is one of those
trace minerals so critical. And the only time youve find it in a health food
store is in the little beauty section for women that want to have better
nails or hair or skin.
And yet we ignore the fact that the integrity of the entire connective
tissue of the body. The vascular system as well is dependent upon that
humble trace element thats been removed from most foods. We talk
about foods like whole grains that used to contain abundant amounts of
chromium. And theyve been robbed of the chromium because the soils
dont contain it or industry refines it out. Chromiumwhy do we need
that? The form that I talk about is grown as food because it manages
what? Sugar, blood sugar, it helps to deliver it successfully into the cells
and mobilize it out of the cells should we need it if we dont have enough
coming in from external sources. And then we see theas Dr. Buttar
calls itthe obligate glucose metabolizer cancer really taking advantage
of the fact that we are chromium deficient. It has access to the sugar
very readily because we dont have the chromium necessary to bind it
and help deliver it so the cancer cells cant get it. So thatd be another
aspect.
Other foods like brazil nuts are rich in selenium although we see as well
now lower than it was. And we need for real metabolic benefit of
selenium, higher quantities than were getting just from brazil nuts and
other foods. So concentrating the selenium in a food grown source or
form is going to be critical. Utilizing upwards of 200 mcg a day bare
minimum as preventative maintenance but upwards of 400, 600, 800 or
even a 1000-mcg of this food grown form of selenium to reverse the
cancer like no other trace mineral can do. And rather than believe the
FDA and their corrupt study of yester year that says selenium can be
toxic to you, the form that were talking about is not a synthetic isolate, a
food grown form. We can take large quantities without concerning
ourselves with selenotoxicity and it will greatly benefit the cancer
patients almost more than anything else.
Heck, read the Bible. Its the plants that were the gifts of creation and
that gave us the medicines that we needed that would nourish us. And
somehow we abandoned that over the course of the last 100 200
years. For what? For a petrochemical, ultimately, a petrochemical
monopoly. Again, there was funding associated, federal funding,
matching funds with these so-called trusts that were very profitable.
They found ways that they could convince the public through public
relations, campaigns to donate, for instance, to the American Cancer
Society, and that they would be matched by these wealthy elites on that
level that were really profiting handsomely on the backend of this and
thought of us all as fools. And in fact, we were. We bought into the myth
and the lies that the only way we could survive the plagues and the
infectious disease is to embrace a petrochemical reality that, yes, could
kill things but could also kill all of us in the process. And were seeing
now generations into this as the rise of chronic disease in younger and
younger children to the point where youre seeing babies born almost in
a cancerous state. And thats unacceptable to me but I didnt know any
different.
And you know, the argument can be made, only its a ridiculous
argument, that the reason this is happening in children is that theyre
living longer than they used to. Thats why theres cancer, more cancer
in kids. I mean its absurd. Why would we have cancer in children?
These are not genetic diseases any more than autism is a genetic
disease but thats a whole other story but it relates. For me its very
important what goes in. That means also purifying and cleaning the
water. Talk about structuring the water as well because theres an
energy to water thats why homeopathy is so amazing that goes beyond
merely filtering it and cleaning it. So there are other nuances to
protecting ourselves from cancer. Theres always something more to do
but at the proverbial end of the day just do what you have genuine
control over, right. You cant do that which you cant. That you can turn
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over to God. Pray on it. But that which you have control over we are
asked to do. We cant slack off on that which we have genuine control
over to choose cleaner foods, to choose cleaner waters, to not do
certain things that we know are self destructive. These are within our
power. Were asked to do that. We cant abuse the privilege of life and
say, well, nah. I dont want to do that one. Ultimately we have to take
control over that which we have been granted and given control over.
Dr. Leigh Erin Connealy: Well, we teach our patientsIm not the
nutritionist but I willI do instruct patients. first of all, you have to eat
foods, mostly vegetables, okay. I dont care if they eat fruits but you
have to a low sugar diet because cancer feeds off of sugar. Dr. Otto
Warburg won a noble prize, said that cancer cells thrive in a
fermentative energy source which is sugar. Sugar hason the cancer
cell, the receptor sites for sugar, thats how we do a PET scan. When
you give a PET scan you give it radiotrace glucose and the cancer cells
light up or they dont light up. And they light up because theyre eating
the sugar or they dont. So you cannotyou got to get people off sugar.
People are addicted to sugar, sugar is a poison. Its a toxin. And it
paralyzes the cell from doing their job. We have this blood test called
the hemoglobin A1C which is a reflection of your blood sugar over 90
days. It is aging marker. Your body has what they call glycosylation
taking place.
Ty: [Dr. Roby], what would be a diet that you, a general diet, that
you could recommend that would keep the immune system strong
and prevent cancer?
Dr. Roby Mitchell: So when I started working with Dr. Wright, one of
the things that I had been involved with was treating people for the
fungal overgrowth that happens in our body. And the thing that I started
to realizeone of the things that I realized years before that was that
the common denominator of any of these natural herbal plant, exotic
fruit, super food remedies that work, the common denominator with
them was that they had some powerful antifungal in them, right. And
thats what garlic, thats what aspirin, thats what these polyphenolic
compounds in the skin of red grapes, the resveratrol.
So I went into the lab and I started investigating, well, which foods are
the highest in theseor not necessarily which foods are the highest,
but which foods had the most impact on controlling candida overgrowth.
And so I set up Petri dishes right there in the lab. And we inoculated
them with candida. And then we just went about inoculating them then
with extracts from different fruits and vegetables and so forth to see
which ones made the biggest, what we call, zone of exclusion in the
Petri dish, right? And so we had the Petri control down here with a
medication call Diflucan that we know kills yeast, right. And so we knew
that it was going to leave a big clear space in there, right, where it didnt
allow yeast to grow. And then down here we have just water, right. And
so that plate just grew white with yeast overgrowth because there was
nothing to inhibit it. And then all these other plates I was able to see,
you know, which ones worked better or worse at keeping yeast under
control. So with that, that was the spring board for what is now called
the BALI planB-A-L-I. And BALIs standing forthats an acronym for
basic antioxidant/antifungal, and then low insulin.
So we want toand regardless of the name that you call it, right, where
theres the ______ [00:26:23] therapy or the paleo diet or Mediterranean
diet or whatever, what is going to work as far as keeping cells out of an
environment that incents them to pleomorph into cancer cells is one that
keeps the yeast under control, right. It keeps you from developing fungal
overgrowth because when that fungus gets up to a certain level then
your immune system is going to response with the weapons of mass
destruction and its going to create a toxic environment and your cells
are going to cough and choke and theyre going to start changing into a
cellular form that will allow them to survive that toxic environment. So
again, regardless of what youd call it, the food that you eat has to be
food that keeps fungal growth under control and doesnt throw gasoline
on the fire.
So when we eat foods that have, what we call, a high glycemic index,
right, so the grains and sugars, right, in corn, wheat, rice, those things,
then were creating an environment, right, that promotes fungal
overgrowth, right, and thats going to cause inflammation and thats
going to, again, incent cells to turn to cancer cells, right. So we have just
seen that more and more as our diets have gotten more and more
refined. That was over hereit started over here in the western world.
Now we see it as we have outsourced all of our computer jobs and
manufacturing jobs over to these third worlds, right, and they get money
in their pocket and then we send coke and McDonalds over there. Now
were seeing breast cancer, for instance, in women that we didnt see
breast cancer in before. Were seeing prostate cancer in men that we
didnt prostate cancer in before in these third world countries, right. And
its again, because theyre eating the same food that gave us the
problem over here.
Chris Wark: So what did my diet look like? It was very simple. And I
think a hard core nutritional approach to cancer needs to be very simple
because there are a lot of options out there. It can get very complicated.
And a lot of people havetheyre seeing so many different directions
they dont even know where to go and they get paralyzed. And so I
realized, okay, what is the most fundamental, foundational part of my
healing approach? And thats good. Ive got to get as much nutrition in
my body as I can from the earth. And so I started juicing and I drank
about 64 ounces of vegetable every day, mostly carrot juice. I ate giant
salads full of cruciferous and allium vegetables, thats broccoli,
cauliflower, kale, cabbage, onions, garlic, peppers, right, just spinach
all that good stuff.
Ty: Yeah
Chris Wark: Yeah. Just a giant salad full of like all this really amazing
food from the earth that was put here for us. And I ate that twice a day
and then I would make fruit smoothies with the fresh coconut and
berries, two cups of blueberries, blackberries, raspberries, strawberries.
Berries are very potent anticancer fruits. And that was it. That was the
daily diet. And it was every day and I did that for 90 days. It was a 100
percent raw food for 90 days.
Dr. Keith Scott Mumby: But then, you know, youve got your vitamin
C. Vitamin C is a whole therapy in itself. You shoot an IV line loaded
with vitamin C that is actually cytotoxic to cancers. And I saw a very
good study on that where at about 3-mg percent its called, 3-mg per
hundred of mills of blood. It was actually cytotoxic to cancer cells without
doing anything harmful at all to healthy cells. So you know the value of
that. and its an antioxidant. Its a detoxer. You know if somebodys in a
toxic environment vitamin C will help that too. So massiveif you cant
find somebody youll give you IV vitamin Cs you can do the lypo-spheric
vitamin C where one gram in a sachetwell, certainly not. I mean one
sachet, sorry, will give you the equivalent of 10 gm of oral vitamin C if
you just took it as a ______ [00:30:24]. Thats a pretty good dose 10
gm, 20 gm would be great.
Ty: Why does the lypo-spheric vitamin C work that way? How
does that deliver more than you would normally get?
Dr. Keith Scott Mumby: Well, because basically vitamin C is bit toxic
to bowel beyond a certain level. You get this phenomena we call fill and
flush. And we used to use that as a measure back in the 70s and 80s.
You know, you take more vitamin C till it gives you diarrhea, then take
less. So if 10-gm causes diarrhea you take eight. But that would be your
limit then. If you try and take any more of that you get diarrhea and you
know you lost more vitamin C than youre swallowing. So it becomes
counterproductive. But the lypo-spheric protective form does that. And
because its so completely absorbed it delivers almost all of the vitamin
C. To be fair, its not just lypo-spheric getting through the gut wall, right,
but its getting into the cells and taking it where it can in the body. So its
a very, very valuable technique.
Ty: I know youre not a big fan of chemo but lets say Im sure that
there are millions of people watching this that are already doing
chemo. Is there anything they can do nutritionally to mitigate the
side effects?
Dr. Keith Scott Mumby: Thats a good point Ty. Thats one of the best
questions because Im notIm a holistic viewed practitioner but Im not
part of the herd and you know, I dont like the waytheres a lot ofits
almost sneering and scoffing at people that do chemo like you dummy.
Why would you do that? It has to be the persons own choice but it
should be an informed choice? They ought to look at the facts and
figures. Now I don't know why youd choose to do it but to be honest, a
lot of people get frightened or they want to hedge their bets. You know,
Ill do it. And maybe I can take vitamins and Ill be okay. I dont think
thats enough but it is true that if you use a proper holistic health
approach the kind Ive been talking about, a chance to really kill on
nutrition, take lots of antioxidants. I mean antioxidants will protect you
against chemo and radiation. Thats what it does. It knocks off all kinds
of free radicals as its going to buzz to the tumor. And that hits off all
kinds of toxic reactive oxygen species which could be mopped up and
then they wont hurt you so much. So its possible to protect yourself.
This is perhaps the best way of saying it quickly. You could protect
yourself against the damaging side effects of the orthodox therapy if you
want to do that. And as I told you before, Ty, over a 10 year period not
one of my patients lost their hair even though they were taking the
notorious ones like Doxyrubicin and things like that. And you have their
record so you know, the oncologists silly story. That will stop thestop
the chemotherapy working is nonsense. its just as poisonous as ever.
But the person was taking steps to protect themselves and didnt even
lose their hair, so. Thats a valuable tip, you know, for a person who
really wants to go that route.
Dr. David Jockers: Absolutely! You know, and you just brought that up
and so just talking about the ketogenic cleanse. I mean it is a fast. And
Im a big fan of intermittent fasting. its something I do every single day.
And I think its a critical piece of a cancer killing diet. So for myself--
really when we break down fasting, I want all our listeners to understand
this, I look at a building phase and a cleansing phase. So our building
phase is a time between our first meal of the day and our last meal of
the day. So the typical American they might eat at 8:00 am and finish
eating at 8:00 pm. So its about a 12 hour building phase. And the
cleansing phase would be time from our last meal to our first meal.
Okay. Thats like a one-to-one ratio. In our society today weve got so
much toxicity that its that much more important that we have a greater
cleansing phase than building phase. On top of that, the great thing is
when were on this ketogenic diet our hormones become balanced,
insulin and leptin, which is ourits our satiety hormone so it helps us
say that were no longer hungry. Were satisfied. They become very
balanced. Our body becomes very sensitive to it. So were really not as
hungry.
Dr. David Jockers: You know, in my opinion I really think that the
pharmaceutical and the insurance industry really control the education
process through medical school and those industries really dont benefit
from people living healthy lifestyles unfortunately. And so the emphasis
on nutrition, exercise, things like that I mean its scattered. Whatever
nutrition they do get oftentimes its really old nutrition. its this whole low
fat paradigm and it really focuses on processed foods and things like
that but ultimately theyre really not educated on this. And again, I think
it has to do with just the pharmaceutical industry and obviously their
focus is making drugs the major solution to every health problem.
Ty: Itsand I think that youre onto something there. Youre not
the first person thats told me that either. its funny that you
mention the low fat diet. Before we came here today we were at
breakfast. And I was talking about that. I used to be a competitive
body builder. And thats all we did. We ate low fat diets. Now they
may have been highly processed junk food but as long as they
were low fat, even if they were just off the charts on the glycemic
index with sugars, if it were low fat body builders thought they
were good. This was back in the 90s, of course, and that some
people still do. Some people still think that low fat diets good
when in actuality can you talk about the importance of good fats in
keeping you healthy?
Dr. David Jockers: Yeah. Absolutely! Fats should really be the priority
with our nutrition plan. The reason why I say we have 75 trillion cells,
and all the cells have a double fatty acid layer around every single cell in
your body. And its extremely key. Its called the cell membrane. Its
extremely key for hormonal responses, extremely key for just having
good healthy hormone function, good healthy neurological function in
your system. So the communication process between cells is dependent
upon this outer ring of fat. And so we need the fats to help replace
those. Also, on top of that, a low fat diet is going to prioritize
carbohydrate. And a carbohydrate breaks down into sugar.
And sugarwhen your blood sugar is all over the place that really
creates a breeding ground for opportunistic infections, for cancer growth
like were going to talk about later, for all different types of issues. And
so utilizing good fats as your primary energy source helps your body
produce something called ketones and theres a ketogenic diet and
those ketones actually are a preferred fuel for your body and especially
when it becomes, what we call, keto adapted or fat adapted, where your
body just becomes so good it preferentially uses these fatty acids, these
ketone bodies, your blood sugar stays extremely stable. And that
reduces inflammatory processes in your body. It helps you have better
mental/emotional balance so you think more clearly, have better
memory, youreverything in your life really improves because your
sugar is stable. You dont have these bumps, these ups and downs, the
insulin surges. And so your emotions, again, are going to be more
balanced, everything is going to be more balanced. Your bodys going to
be able to handle and tolerate stress more effectively.
Ty: isnt it? As far as many disease processes they start with
inflammation in the cells, dont they?
Ty: You had mentioned with the ketosis and the ketogenic diet, to
me it sounds almost like the Atkins diet, if you remember from 20
years or so when the Atkins diet was real popular.
Dr. David Jockers: Yeah. Thats a great, great question. Im really glad
you brought that up because in general the Atkins diet is a ketogenic
diet. It does stimulate ketone development. And the way that some
individuals teach it its stilltheyre almost identical. However, when
were really trying to promote optimal health weve got to make some
differentiations from the Atkins diet. So where Atkins went right was his
approach with a low carbohydrate diet, getting our body running off the
ketones. So Im in total agreement with him about that, keeping our
body very sensitive to insulin, very, very important. However, where I
disagree with him was he really had no regulation on the kind of fats that
you put into your body. And we want to really focus on good fats as
opposed to bad fats. So most people in our society assume that
saturated fat is a bad fat. What we know is that actually saturated fat is
one of the most healthiest fats we can be putting in our body. The fats
we really want to avoid are high omega-6 fats from refined vegetable
oils and also from factory farmed animal meats. So thats a big one. And
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Now the grain fed cow though, the grains themselves are high in this
omega-6 fat. And omega-6 fat causes inflammation in our body. So the
dairy thats coming from a grain fed cow is very high in omega-6, very
low in omega-3. Thats going to be inflammatory. And that inflammatory
process, high omega-6, low omega-3, provides a ripe environment for
cancer cell development in our body. So we definitely want to stay away
from commercially raised animal products and animals that were fed
grains. We want to stay away from that. But we do want the grass fed
animal products because they have a lot of omega-3s, an ideal ratio of
omega-6 to omega-3s. Also grass fed dairy has a molecule called CLA,
conjugulated linoleic acid, which many researchers are finding is a
potent anticarcinogen. Theres also other great nutrients in there. for
example, the major fat thats in grass-fed dairy is called butyric acid.
Butyric acid is a preferred fuel source for healthy gut microbes in your
system and it helps your intestinal cells to develop and actually to
strengthen so that way we dont develop problems like leaky gut and
ulcerations in our gut and things like that, which is extremely important
for helping our immune system. 70 percent of our immune systems in
our gut. And if we have damage to our gut were going to have a lot of
immune system disorders which could include cancer and other
autoimmune diseases. So this grass-fed raw dairy can have an
incredible effect at helping the gut to heal and seal and to control itself
well. So thats why its such a good fat source we want to include.
We also want to include things like extra virgin olive oil, healthy seeds
like flax seed, hemp seeds, chia seeds, we talked about coconut
products. That should be an absolute staple. Coconut is a super food,
very anti-inflammatory and just powerful for our body. So these are the
kind of good fats we want to focus on. We want to stay away from
again, Atkins never differentiated between grass-fed and grain-fed so it
was a lot of commercial animal products using lard and bacon and
things like that. And the other aspect of it is that bacon, I am really not a
big fan of just from the perspective that it is cooked at very high
temperatures. And it may be nitrate free which is certainly a better one
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to go with but when you cook meat at a very high temperature, youre
going to produce a lot of carcinogenic products, things like heterocyclic
amines, polycyclic aromatic hydrocarbons, acrylamide, and these are
known to cause cancer growth in our body. And so high heat or highly
cooked, highly processed animal products, even if its properly raised
can also be a factor with cancer cell development. So we want to look
for animal products that have been minimally processed. And when we
cook them we want to cook them more medium rare so a lower
temperature and just cooking them for less time so that way we produce
less of those heterocyclic amines. And there are a lot of different
strategies that people can apply with marinades and things like that to
utilize animal products and minimize the production of carcinogenic
chemicals.
One last thing with the difference between Atkins and an anti-cancer
ketogenic approach. Atkins really never differentiated with chemicals
and sweeteners. And so it was really a high chemical diet because he
would use things like aspartame and Splenda and stuff like that. On a
cancer killing or an anti-cancer ketogenic diet we want very, very pure
sources of nutrients. So we want it to be extremely nutrient rich, lots of
antioxidants from things like herbs, things like low glycemic sweeteners
like even squeezing fresh lemon on things will provide a ton of
antioxidants. Sweeteners are going to be things like stevia, which is an
all natural sweetener thats going to work much better. Xylitol perhaps
for some individuals that can digest that well. A lot of times people who
have leaky gut issues or small intestinal bacterial overgrowth issues and
are not able to handle the sugar alcohols. But thats a possible
sweetener on a ketogenic diet. But were going to stay away from the
chemical based agents and go with really natural agents. We also,
again, want to use a lot of herbs. Herbs can provide good flavor and a
ton of antioxidants. And really in the Atkins diet there was very little
emphasis on herbs or really antioxidants in general. And on the anti-
cancer ketogenic diet we do take from Atkins, hey, this whole ketogenic
approach but we also want it to be extremely nutrient rich and really
focus on getting a lot of antioxidants into the body.
Ty: The cancer diagnosis people are terrified and they dont
necessarily have to be. There is hope. So talk about the importance
of hope.
think there is a lot of advantage in that. if you let circumstances run your
life youre going to be living in fear all day long. And when you live in
fear youre constantly over stimulating your adrenal glands. and when
you do that your body produces a lot of cortisol, a lot of stress hormone,
and thats stress hormone wears down your immune defense in your
gut. And then your gut becomes damaged. And when your gut becomes
damaged now it creates a whole inflammatory spiral in your body, will
throw off your hormones, itll make you crave the sugars. Itll provide a
breeding ground for opportunistic infections, and you get this whole
negative spiral of health effect that are going to lead you down a route to
chronic disease. And so theres a huge difference between living with
hope and living with a lot of love as opposed to living with fear.
And so I dont think any of us will ever completely get rid of fear. I think
thats just something that were going to deal with on this planet.
However, when we had this foundation of faith and were attuned to
where our mind and our emotions are going we can constantly
reconnect. And its like flipping a switch, right, and just reconnect back
to hope, back to our faithful foundation and really bring love into the
environment. And just like it says in the bible, perfect love casts out all
fear. And so the more that we can open the door to love the less fear
will control us and the more well be able to move on and see miracles
in our lives.
Dr. Patrick Quillin: Theres over 300 studies showing that a diet rich in
fruits and vegetables can dramatically lower the risk for most cancers
That should be enough evidence. Meanwhile, the United States
Department of Agriculture claims that the top three most commonly
consumed vegetables in America is ketchup, French fries, and onion
rings. And I know that sounds humorous because those are not
vegetables in my opinion, theyre highly processed. Ketchup is mostly
sugar, corn syrup. And the others are high in hydrogenated fats. So
theres very few vegetables and fruits being consumed. The government
sort of bends rules to basically accommodate big business.
Ty: What kind of a role does music have in the overall health
equation of treating cancer or other diseases?
Dr. Patrick Quillin: Absolutely! We were given this funny bone for a
good reason. And I realize that theres many people who say you think
thats funny. This is funny. Look at my life. And I can tell you things
about my life that you could easily get very discouraged about and yet
John Kennedys quote is absolutely true, that were all walking this tight
rope of life and that that humor is the balancing stick that allows us to
manage it well. Let me give you a couple of examples. What do the
following longevity experts have in common? Bob Hope lived to be a
100. George Burns lived to be 99. Art Linkletter lived to be 97. Jack
Lalane lived to be 95, I believe. Phyllis Diller, I believe, is in her late
early 90s. Betty White, whos still alive and doing great in her early 90s.
What do they all have in common? A great sense of humor. And what
happens is were all exposed to a certain amount of stress. Some of us,
not me, but some of usGod bless you combat veterans who are
returning with a lot of stress mentally and physically, more than I could
handle. But somehow we have to be able to take that stress and use
humor to try and dissipate the stress. So what happens is heres this
big, ugly balloon thats blocking our view of the beauty of life and humor
says pop the balloon or at least slowly let the air out of it. And it isa
great metaphor would be its the shock absorbers that allow us to ride
that rocky bumpy back road of life. And it says, I can tolerate this
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because of humor. I can dissipate the energy because if you can get a
sense of humor about things, and Bob Hope, of course, had so many
great lines. He traveled the world many times with the troops. And how
can you go into a combat scene where people are dying and suffering
and afraid and depressed and offer humor? Not only how can you, you
have to.
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Ty: I really like that term advanced medicine. Ive learned a lot in
tonights show. I hope you have too. Lets recap. We talked about
super food nutrition. We talked about structured water acting as an
antioxidant. We talked about fasting. You are what you eat. Do you
remember the old quote from Hippocrates? Let food be thy
medicine and medicine be they food. I think tonights who proves
that that was an accurate statement. On tomorrows night episode
we are going to learn specific treatment protocols from some of
the most renowned cancer doctors and medical doctors,
homeopaths in the world. Youre not going to want to miss
tomorrow nights show. Thanks for tuning in tonight and God
bless.
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Ty: Okay. So Im here with June. And June, you are a breast
cancer survivor, thriver.
June: Yes.
Ty: And so if you could tell us a little bit about the type of cancer
that you had and what you did to treat it.
June: Okay. I had invasive ductal carcinoma HER2 positive and it was
in stage II, two and a half centimeters. And usually thats even further
because of that large of a tumor but they were surprised it wasnt further
along. And when they told me that I had this they didnt tell me what to
do. They just said, okay, youre going to need to have the tumor
removed. Then youre going to need radiation, youre going to need a
year of chemo. And then I went to the oncologist I saw these people
there with needles in their arms and they looked half dead. And I
thought, Im not going to let that happen to me. I cant believe that doing
that is going to save my life. They all look like theyre dying, not living.
S I just went home and I prayed and I said, you know, I cant believe
that God made our bodies to take poison to heal them. I just cant
believe you kill cells, good cells, to heal yourself. So I went researching
on the internet, which my doctors told me not to do. They said stay off
the internet but I dont listen too well. And I foundthats how I found
Tys book. So I started reading it and I started thinking, Ive got to stop
what Im doing to get rid of this cancer. And I went in my cupboard,
threw all the food away, didnt give it away, threw everything out,
everything out of my refrigerator, completely threw it away. And I started
eating complete whole foods, uncooked spinach, drinking carrot juice,
eating tomatoes, cherries, broccoli, cauliflower, asparagus, every kind of
vegetable that was pure, organic, clean, and not boiled away. I didnt
boil any kind of food.
Four weeks later I go back to the oncologist after they did that oncotype
D test to see how much the herceptin and the chemo would help me or
whatever. And my oncologist was just like looking at the screen on his
computer and he wouldnt say anything. And then finally he looked up
and he goes I cant believe this. This is a miracle. I said, what? He said
your numbers, I expected them to be up to 40, its 14. He said if I give
you chemo it would only make a difference of three percent and I dont
want to put you through all that for three percent. And hes never
needed to see me back again. Im fine and Im two years today cancer
free.
Ty: Wow!
June: So eating healthy makes a way. And its a way that you have to
continue because something in my system allowed cancer to grow
So eat your broccoli, dont get chemo. And another thing that I can say
to you is they did give me radiation and I had said to the radiologist Im
praying for a cure for cancer. And her response to me was, oh honey, if
they find a cure to cancer theyll never pass it. Theres too much money
in this business. And then she turned around and said to me, I got job
security while shes filling me with this poison that might kill me. And I
justI felt like I had to do something to make people aware and we
dont have to die from this. We dont have to.
And thats the rest of my life Im going to spend like Ty helping people to
get well. Im talking to people everywhere I go. I had a repairman come
to the house yesterday and I started to talk to him and I said I hope Im
not boring you. And he said, oh no, I could listen to you talk all day
about this. Now hes starting to do what other people are calling me up
and saying, Im doing this now and Im eating better because of you.
And so it makes you feel like youre here for a reason. God let me live
for a reason and its to help other people eat his foods. Genesis 1:29
and 30. Eat the foods the creator gave us and your body will stay
healthy.
Ty: Wow! Thank you June. That was so great, very encouraging.
And thats going to really bless people that hear it.
Ty: And its really inspired me. Thank you for sharing with us
today.
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Ty: Dr. Gonzalez talk about the protocol that youre using. If you
could go back and kind of give a few details about what protocol
Dr. Kelly was using and then how youve adopted that into your
practice now. What are you using?
Dr. Nicholas Gonzalez: Kellys program and our program have three
basic components. In our therapy today 25 27 years later is really a
derivation of Kelly. We follow his model pretty closely. It involves three
basic componentsindividualized diet, individualized supplement
programs with for cancer patients large doses of pancreatic enzymes
and detoxification routines like the coffee enemas. Now unlike a lot of
alternative practitioners who use one diet for everything like Atkins told
everyone should be on a meat diet. The Gerson people think everyone
should be vegetarian. Kelly realized early on different people need
different diets. And some people do well with a plant-based diet, other
patients need fatty red meat two or three times a day. He had 10 basic
diets and 94 variations. And investigative journalist that I was at heart
when I first met him, I challenged him and he showed me on his
computer the 10 basic diets and 94 variations. And even then he would
individualize the diet. So he doesnt have and he didnt have and we
dont have one diet. We follow that traditionally of 10 diets and dozens
of variation. Secondly, large doses of nutritional supplementsvitamins,
minerals, trace elements, glandular extracts from animals like liver,
thymus, lung, pancreas, heart, these glandular parts that are made for
us in New Zealand.
Now we dont believe the vitamins and minerals and trace elements and
glandular products are going to cure or reverse cancer. What they do
provide is nutritional support. You know, were doing two things. Were
trying to attack the cancer directly but were also trying to rebuild your
average body. A lot of the patients that came to Kelly, a lot of the
patients that we see, not only have advanced cancer, which ravage the
body, but also had been treated with aggressive chemo, radiation, all
kinds of combinations that also ravaged the body. So were trying to
rebuild their body and also attack the cancer and you can attack the
cancer better if you rebuild the body. So the vitamins, minerals, trace
elements, glandular products, help restore the normal equilibrium and
homeostasis of the body. And even then the socialthe supplement
programs are very individualized. Kelly did and we do individualize all
these supplement programs. So no two patients are in exactly the same
protocol and some of them, of course, is similar.
theyre the bodys main defense against cancer and would be useful as
a cancer treatment.
And the brilliant man that he was, he did animal studies. We think of 110
years ago as a primitive time in science or scientists worked out of
caves with candles. Well actually, it was very sophisticated. By 1902
pathologistsand Sloan-Kettering already existed by that point
brilliant pathologists in the US and Europe had already evaluated and
diagnosed and defined the hundred different types of cancer. They
knew what cancer was, they knew what it looked like. They knew it how
it behaved. They knew how to examine it, how to do a biopsy under the
microscope. So Beard took an animal model which they had at that time
for cancer and used his enzymes as a first study of the enzymes in
history and got a 100 percent regression of cancer in the animals that
he treated. Whereas the control group died very quickly.
Beard was showing the enzymes reverse cancer Madam Curie, the
great Frenchwell, she was Polish by birth but she was working at the
University of Parisshe was investigating radiation. And radiation x-
rays had been discovered in 1895. By 1900 they were used
diagnostically. It was miraculous. You do an x-ray and you can see the
inside of the chest and see the lungs. By 1905 Madam Curie was saying
that radiation would be a simple, easy, non-toxic way of treating all
cancer. And she had two noble prizes alreadyone of the few people
that Linus Pauling also had tofew people that ever won one, let alone
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two, and she was well loved by the media. She was the first great media
star. She knew how to use the media. She knew how to call press
conferences. And she announced radiation is the cure to cancer to the
media. Beard was this nerdy, ivory tower scientist who thought the
media was a bunch of morons, had no use for them and no use for his
critics. He wasnt maybe the most diplomatic person who ever lived.
Madam Curie knew how to nurture the media.
So all over the world Madam Curie, the great belovedyou know, she
was the first woman to get a PhD in theoretical physics at the University
of Paris. So she had this extraordinary history and movies had been
made about her. And the press loved her. Who cared about Dr. Beard
and pancreatic enzymes. Well nobody apparently. So it was book one
unheated. Radiation came into the forefront of cancer treatment. Of
course, Madam Curie was completely wrong on all counts. It isnt non-
toxic. In fact, she herself died as a result of radiation exposure. She died
of aplastic anemic caused by radiation. Most tumors that regress come
back very quickly, more deadly. And it was only a few cancers actually
responded to it. So radiation was not the simple, easy, non-toxic way of
treating all cancers. She was wrong. But by that point by the time
scientists realized that, you know, hundreds of them died. Hundreds of
scientists involved with radiation died because of their cavalier exposure
to radiation thinking, you know, its invisible so its safe.
And he opens up the Merck manual and lo and behold there are coffee
enemas. You know, the interesting thing or the sad thing is, the ironic
thing, Kelly was brutalized in the media for his use of coffee enemas
and we get attacked about it today too. But they come right out of the
conventional medical literature. He didnt learn about it from alien space
beings, you know, injected into his brain through some mystic psychic
experience. He didnt learn about them through some alternative throw
away journals or something else. He learned about them from the
conventional medical textbooks. The Merck manuals is a ______
[00:09:27] and most conventional therapies. And they were in the Merck
manual. Coffee enemas were in the Merck manual right up until the
1970s. And when I was doing my investigation of Kelly, the trained
investigative reporter that I was, I called up the editor of the Merck
manual then and had a talk with him. And he said the only reason they
were taken out is we get kind of folksy and we had all this high tech stuff
to use. And he had files on coffee enemas which he sent me. And
dozens of studies from the 20s and the 1930s and 40s at major
institutions where theyre using coffee enemas for a variety of things--
arthritis, mental illness. I have a study from the New England Journal of
Medicine, the preeminent medical journal in the US, 1932 from Harvard
Medical School, a good of research psychiatrists successfully treatable,
what we today call bipolar illness, in those days they call it manic
depressive, with enemas. And theyre hypothesis was that they were
toxins from the intestinal track that were polluting the mind and thats
what was causing the mental illness. And they put these people on
enemas and colonics and they got well and they got them off medication
and out of the hospital. It was in the New England Journal. I have a
copy, 1932.
I have a study from Uruguay, just because its Uruguay doesnt mean
they werent serious scientists and people downplay it. It was not from
Boston. It was a good study of patients with septic shock, in those days
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The other thing is editors would say this is real but if its real its the most
extraordinary thing in medicine but its also the most controversial, a
nutritional approach to cancer. This is 1986 where to mention nutrition
and cancer in the same sentence was tantamount to a felony. And the
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Dr. Nicholas Gonzalez: No one knows this at all. No one knows that
the Iranian revolution began because of Robert Good, president of
Sloan-Kettering, my mentor. Kelly himself had cancer and when he was
trying to fight his own battleyou know, he was an orthodontist by
training
gave him two months to live and he had four young kids, all of them
adopted. He had mumps as a teenager so--mumps can make you
sterile. So he couldnt have kids so he adopted four kids out of the
orphanages. And he was afraid if he died theyd end up back in the
orphanage. Hes like I cant die. He just made thatKelly was a very
determined guy. He also had an IQ twice of most of us. He said Im not
going to die. So he went through the literature startinghe realized the
only thing he could do is change is diet. Then he learned about Beards
work fromat that point it was like 60 years earlier, add in an enzyme
and got well. And then the local doctorsyou know, Kelly was very well
known in the town where he lived. He lived in Grapevine, Texas, which
is a suburb of Texasyoure a Texas boya suburb of Dallas/Fort
Worth. In those days it was a pokey professional suburb. Now its, you
know, like Dallas is like taking over the world but it was a pokey town,
you know, Grapevine. And all the doctorshe was in the country club
and did bible study on Sundays and he was in the church and the
school board, everyone knew him. There wasnt a country club. And the
doctors saw him rise from the dead like Lazarus. So they started
quietlythis is 1964 65sendign their cancer patients to Kelly
because they knew him, they trusted him. He was in the same country
club, the same church.
Dr. Nicholas Gonzalez: Thats right and they were sending them to a
dentist. Well, legally he didnt have the right to treat cancer. Dentists
cant. But they would send them and they would get well. That was the
good news and the bad news. The good news is a word of mouth
network started to spread, you know, someones cousin in Houston
heard about my cousin got well. And they would come to Kelly and then
it was the person in New Mexico. And pretty soon people were coming
from all over the country to Kelly to his dentist office on that side of
Dallas getting well. Well, guess what? The medical board wasnt too
happy about it because sooner or later they heard about it. Kelly once
told me at one time 14 government agencies were investigating him.
And you know, I saidthe investigative reporter that I am, I said, you
know people tend to exaggerate. And I looked through the data, indeed,
14 government agencies from the local county attorney to the state
medical board to the dental board because the dental board actually
took away his license for practicing medicine without a license. He didnt
care because he just said hes doing nutrition, kept doing it, seeing
patients anyway. The state attorneys, the attorneythe state attorney
general, federal attorneys, the IRS, they all colluded like going after tea
party groups together. They all colluded to try and get Kelly. You think,
heres a guy giving cancer patients nutrition. This isnt like he committed
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the holocaust. Hes just given patients with nothing else to do who you
cant treat them successfully with any conventional therapy. Hes giving
them nutrition.
And lo and behold, the problem was a lot of them were getting well. And
its interesting too, and these are stories that as far as I know have
never been told before. Heat one point he was arrested at gunpoint
kind of like a typical, get 14the equivalent of a SWAT team in those
days, arresting them and they always do those things to try and
embarrass you so they came at midnight in front of his kid in pajamas
dragging him away. Well, there was a very prominent Washington
politician high up in the justice department, I mean really high up in the
justice department who the next day called the local sheriff and said you
let Kelly out or Im going to have the entire federal government
investigate every one of you from youryoull be audited on your
income tax for the last 25 years. And he said you dont want to mess
with me. He was let out of jail within five minutes of that phone call. And
they never went after him again. He continued to practice. He just had
patients sign a form saying Im not a medical doctor. Im doing nutrition
and they left him alone. So all these incredible stories. And I would
interview patients who would confirm all this, his family. I knew three of
his four kids. And they didnt have an easy time because they were the
kids of this crazy cancer quack doctor, the Dallas morning newspapers
would carry it and the local radio show. Again, this is pre-internet. And it
was tough. They would go to school and be laughed at. Youre the crazy
quack doctor. So it was tough for them.
[ph], now retired and has a sailboat and sails around the Mediterranean.
He set up a research group to travel the world looking for alternative
therapies that might be useful. This is genius people. They dont tend to
have prejudices. They just want to see what works. I dont care if its
moon dust or spooky stuff or radioactive waves. They dont care as long
as it works. So they actually set up a division very quietly, highly funded,
and they sent a team around the world from jungles of New Guinea to
New York to me.
So we know from animal models they worked for my first clinical study
and we know that it works but we dont know the molecular biology to
answer to your question. We dont know how it actually kills cancer
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cells. What we think is the proteolytic, which are the protein digesting
pancreatic enzymes like trypsin and chymotrypsin actually tear apart the
cell membranes. You know, cell membranes are lipid, fatty, but they
also have protein molecules that are receptors and pores that allow
nutrients to get in and waste products to get out. Thats how cells
survive with these protein pores in the membrane. And these are
proteins like any other protein. We think the enzymes chew them up.
Now they dont affect normal tissue and Beard said a hundredin his
book, a 100in 2011, more than 100 years ago, that theres a reason
that cancer cells have the opposite electrical charge than normal cells.
Everyone laughed at him at that time. We now know that its true. And
normal cells repulse the pancreatic enzymes in the blood stream but
cancer cells attract them. And the enzymes go right to the cancer cell
and we believe chew up the proteins on the cell membrane the cell
does. So we think its that simple. We havent had the trillions of dollars
of funding to substantiate that. I mean Pour wanted to do that but Nestle
was willing to fund more but the key with Nestle is I would have had to
turnover my intellectual property, it would have been a co-ownership.
They wantedthey had their patent lawyers in the US filing patents but
it would have been Nestle and me as co-owners. The problem with that
is Pierre retires and the next person may think its all quackery. And
Nestle owns my work and I cant do anything with it. So I said no thank
you, gracious, were still friends, Pierre and I. And he understood why.
Ty: Mr. Griffin tell us a little bit about the role that pancreatic
enzymes might play in prevention and/or treatment of cancer.
doesnt the immune system attack it and destroy it? And the answer is
that cancer cells have a protein coating around them, a protein coating.
And that has a negative electrostatic charge. Its amazing the more I
learn about how much electricity plays a role inside the body. Now I
used to think it was all chemistry. Well, chemistry is basically electricity;
the little valiances and youll see the pluses and minuses on the charts
and so forth. Its all electricity or the chemistry doesnt work.
But anyway, this protein coating around the cancer cells, one of its
unique qualities, has a negative electrostatic charge. Well, the immune
cells, the lymphocytes, the leukocytes, the monocytes, all these white
blood cells that are supposed to attack the foreign invaders they have a
negative electrostatic charge also. Well, everyone knows that common
polarities repel each other so the cancer cell is well protected against
the white blood cell. And I believe the reason is because the cancer cell
is not foreign to the body. Its part of the natural protections. Hey, Im a
friend, not a foe. So now if you are eating foods that have a lot of meat
protein in them youre probably going to use to most if not all of that
digestive enzyme produced by your pancreas to digest the meat. Thats
what its meant to do.
G. Edward Griffin: And theres very little left over, if anything left over,
to do anything else. But if your diet is low in meat protein and if your
pancreas is normal, functioning okay, you should have plenty of
digestive enzyme to take care of the meat and still be plenty in the blood
stream. Now, when these digestive enzymes come to the cancer cell
they say, ah, protein, meat, and they will actually digest away that
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Ty: And that would explain then why many physicians, part of
their protocol to treat cancer add pancreatic enzymes to the
protocol.
the diet of the people in modern societies where cancer rates are high
and you find theres practically no Amygdaline at all. its just a
completeits an eye opener. And what are those cultures? Well, the
hunzas [ph] I think you mentioned a moment ago are probably the best
known little kingdom up in Northwest Pakistan and its a very idealic
place Im told. The story Shangri-La they say was actually written based
upon hunza as the model. Everybody knows the story of Shangri-La.
Well, hunza is pretty much like that. its very remote. You risk your life
getting into it. And I always thought I wanted to go visit Hunza after I
read about it until I saw some photographs of these deep ravines that
you have to walk across on a rope bridge and about its about a mile
and a half straight down. You go along the cliffs like this. I was like, no,
I think Ill just read a book about it. But anyway. That is really the way it
was. I guess they have a road in now.
The people in Hunza never had cancer. But afterwards when they come
out of Hunza and they go into other countries and they start eating the
same foods that those people eat they come down with cancer live
everyone else. In Hunza, at least in the beginning when all this research
was done there was no such thing as money. its kind of a primitive
society. And a mans wealth was measured by the number of apricot
trees he owns. And people apricot seeds there, a little sweeter than the
ones in California but still loaded with amygdaline and they eat them like
candy. It was like a delicacy there. Well, theyre just one example. There
are other cultures, the Vilcabambas, the Navajo and the Hopi Indians,
the aboriginal Eskimos. All of those cultures had zero or very low cancer
rates. And if you look at the native diet in every case their foods are at
least 200 times, if not more, rich in amygdaline than anything that you
would find in a major city or even in the countryside in our western
world. So thats a clue. And so then the next question is, well, what is
this thing, amygdaline, how does it work? its very simple. Amygdaline is
a molecule that has four components in it locked together. Theyre two
components of sugar or glucose. Theres one component of cyanide.
And theres the world that scares people. Well come back to that in a
minuteand one component of benzaldehyde. Now people say, wow,
cyanide. You want to take cyanide to treat cancer.
Ty: Right.
Ty: Wow!
Ty: Talk about the California report of 1953. Ive heard youIve
read some of your writings about the California report and its very
interesting topic.
Ty: Ive seen the newspaper ads that they used to run that had that
exact quote. That was from him.
G. Edward Griffin: That was from him. He was one of the guys.
Incidentally he died in bed some years later in a fire started by his
cigarette in bed.
Ty: Wow!
G. Edward Griffin: It burnt him up. I mean Im sorry that anybody died
especially from fire but I thought it was a certain irony
It was also obvious they were using lower dosages than was being used
in the clinics. And in spite of those two handicaps the laboratory results
were reporting case after case after case where these mice were
recovering from cancer right in the body of the report. And yet, the
summary was there was absolutely no evidence that theresyou know,
etc. etc. This was sort of the flagship of what had been repeated many
times since then. The Sloan-Kettering report did pretty much the same
thing and it goes on and on and on. And once people realized that not
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only is there just ineptitude or bias in the cancer industry, bias against
natural therapies, but also deliberate fraud. Now were dealing with a
different animal because when you consider the number of people who
die from cancer this amounts to genocide.
Ty: Ive read about your cancer protocol. And you have something
that you call AARSOTA. Can you talk about what your AARSOTA
is. Is it a vaccine? What is AARSOTA?
So theres five phases that we use when we deal with cancer patients.
The first is systemic detoxification as weve talked about. The second
one is physiological optimization. So we want to optimize the entire
physiology to that of the highest possible level that we can. In quantum
physics lingo this would be achieving zero point. So were trying to get
maximum benefit, maximum output with minimal expenditure of energy.
Dr. Rashid Buttar: Were going to go out and see our UFO buddies
next week, right?
Dr. Rashid Buttar: And so thats the fourth part. And then the fifth part
is maintenance. So youve got the first one, systemic detoxification, the
second one, the physiological optimization, the third one, immune
modulation, fourth one, target acquisition into the fifth one, the fifth step
is maintenance. And thats how we deal with cancer.
The men who develop this with Dr. Albert Scheller went to the National
Cancer Institute and said, this is what I found. With the genome project I
developed this system. We can tell which chemotherapeutic agent will
work on that persons circulating tumor cells and/or natural
substancesvitamin C or regularyou name it. And its done in Greece
and its done in Germany. I use a company called Bio Focus in
Germanyso that you know in advance. Now Ive had cancer twice. Im
87-years of age. To give you a perspective I was in the Second World
War. I am the same age as the Queen. I am a year older than the pope
that retired. Ive had cancer twice. And I had the best skiing of my life
two weeks ago up in Aspen, Colorado. Ive been on some special stem
cellsunbelievable. Works fantastic!
Cancer must be checked constantly. Once you have cancer and it goes
into remission you must constantly every year or two year check and
see that these circulating tumor cells are no longer present which I do. I
send my blood to Germany and then they tell me. Now the purpose of
knowing which chemo will work allows the doctor to use micro amounts
of chemo. In other words, its never the full amount because it does
destroy the immune system. But if you use five, seven, ten percent,
fractionated doses of the targeted chemos, and it could be one or two,
because the minute it leaves the primary it mutates. And what works in
the primary will not work on the circulating tumor cells.
So Bio Focus has this test. Its pricey and they have a less expensive
one that says you have cancer or you dont. But the expensive one tells
you which chemo or natural substances will target that cell so the doctor
then will use insulin potentiated carryingusing sugar to carry the
radiologicnot the radiologic moleculethe chemotherapy into the
tumor. And then if you use full body hyperthermia you have a 14 times
better effect of killing the cancer than not having the full body
hyperthermia. And hyperthermia, they put you in a chamber, your
heads outside. Youre in for an hour a day for two weeks. If you need
more its every other day because of heat shock. And it opens up the
body and allows the chemo to go into the cancer cell and kill it.
Remember its five, ten percent. Youre not killing the healthy cells.
Burton Goldberg: Exactly! Targeted low dose and with full body
hyperthermia at a temperature of a 105 107, unbelievable results.
Webster Kehr: Im glad you brought that up because when I first got
started into cancer research there was a clinic down in the southeast, I
cant remember which exactly which state it was in. And one of the
cancer patients I was working with was going to that clinic. It used
DMSO and low dose chemotherapy. I call it DMSO potentiation therapy
. It doesnt really have a name. Thats just my name. But DMSO and
MSM are not glucose products but they have a propensity to target
cancer cells by themselves. And they open the ports of the cancer cells.
And so DMSO and low dose chemotherapyI mean there are four
different types of chemotherapy that actually bind to the DMSO. And so
DMSO and low dose chemotherapy, the right kind of low dose
chemotherapy was being used in one of the clinics down there. I never
got around to contacting them because they were shut down by the
FDA, so. But that would be even a better than insulin potentiation
therapy.
Webster Kehr: This goes back to the 1930s. you know, it was known
in the 1890s that William Russell knew that there were microbes inside
the cancer cells. It was rediscovered in the early 1900s. It was
rediscovered again, and again, and again, because back then you didnt
have the communication that we have today. And in the 1930s Royal
Rife, Dr. Royal Rife, who was a microbiologist knew that there were
microbes inside the cancer cells. And he came up with an
electromedicine device, a couple of them actually, which was designed
to do nothing but kill the microbes inside the cancer cells. When he did
that, of course, the cancer cells reverted into normal cells. Now one of
his major contributions aside from finding the right frequencies was that
he also determined that you needed a carrier wave to get the cancer,
the microbe killing, the cancer microbe killing frequency, all the way
through the body so it would kill all the microbes in the cancer cells,
would not harm natural cells because natural cells, healthy cells, dont
have these microbes in them. They would only affect the microbes in the
blood stream, which are good to kill. Theres very few microbes that are
good. There are a few that are good but its not going to bother them.
Even if you kill them its not really going to have a lot of effect. So he
developed this technology. The American Medical Association tried to
buy him out and he refused because he did not trust them. Good for
him. And so the Food and Drug Administration went down and
destroyed his laboratory, his equipment, destroyed all of his inventory.
Dr. Keith Scott Mumby: And your viewers Im sure will be very
interested in studies that were donethey were done in India originally
but they were repeated here. And they found that using three or four
homeopathic remedies were actually effective. Now listen to this.
Glioma, you know, the brain tumor is pretty deadly. They found two
remedies, phytolacca, thats pokeweed, and carcinosin, which is made
from cancer itself; actually resolve six out of seven gliomas. As a result
the tumors disappeared, the markers disappeared, right. Theres not
enough follow-up on that to know what the famous five year survival
was. But thats a pretty remarkable result for taking what the orthodox
doctors say is just water. Its a fake. Theres nothing in it. Well, you
know, the patient certainly did better.
homo and though we were homosexuals. Were not having your people
here. Thats Europe for you.
You know, thats what I call chemotherapy thinking, you know, Ill take
stuff and itll kill the cancer and I dont even have to change my diet.
Thats not going to work. You got to do all the good things Ive been
talking about. But mistletoe, you cant say its safe and natural and
holistic, its extremely poisonous, right. But if you take it the right dose,
and its got a tradition of hundreds of years now. Iscador itself was
developed by Rudolf Steiner. That went back in Victorian times. And it
containedyou know, theres a few things. So its a mixture. One of the
important ones is mercury iodide. And the iodine is great for the thyroid
because thats something else I havent got time to elaborate on.
But 20 years ago I noticed that and then it surfaced in all the literature. I
keep seeing it. But I noticed it that because I use those EAV testing
machines and it would tell you hidden signals. And time and again with
cancer you get a signal on thyroid. The thyroid wasnt performing and
the underperforming thyroid is one of the biggest reasons why the
immune system goes down. You cannot afford to have an inefficient,
anthats tongue twister. You cannot afford to have an inefficient
thyroid if youve got cancer. So you need to beef it up and you need to
have your thyroid checked. So theres another hot tip for the viewers. All
thats built in to the iscador remedy.
And if you take it as it should be its very safe. And Ive got to tell you
that something like 60 percent, its the most prescribed oncological
treatment in Germany now, right. You wouldnt believe that but 60
percent of cancer patients will take it whether their doctor says to or not.
They will. its got a very strong tradition. And as I said over here if you
dont think German means it could be good then Suzanne Sommers is
your reference, right. She liked it and she claims it really, really helped
her. And Ive used it a lot, of course.
Ian Jacklin: And the new thing is cannabis hemp oil. I don't know how
much youve heard about that but you basically take marijuana and boil
it down to two ounces of the essential oil preferably with Ever Clear or
some kind of food grade solvent. And boom, you got yourself, not only
possibly the cancer cure, but the Crohns cure, the AIDS cure, the
diabetes cure. And I use the word cure lightly because there is no such
thing. I mean sure, you can cure it but theres no silver bullet and I dont
want to get anybody too excited because there is no silver bullet from
what Ive seen.
Cannabis hemp oil would definitely be in my arsenal for the CVDs and
the THC. The THC, theyre both cannabinoids. The THC will get you
high but that is more for the cancer. So for the cancer patients I would
recommend getting the higher TH but the CVDs are very, very important
too for healing. Those are the ones that Dr. Sanjay Gupta brought out
that are curing the seizures on the children, right. Hes the guy that said,
oh no, marijuana is bad years ago and now has come back and said,
oops, I was wrong. And you know, nice guy for doing that because not a
lot of them do that. And theyre wrong. And so many children are being
saved because of that guy coming out with CNN. And God bless CNN
too. I don't know how you guys are doing it. How are you guys telling the
truth?
Any old folks home that isnt giving them, their patients, cannabis
products they dont care about the old folks or theyre just not educated
yet which is obviously the answer because we havent told them yet but
once we doevery old folks home should have cannabis hemp oil in it,
the high CVD and the high THC because it reduces inflammation. MyI
needed a hip replacement from my 10 years of kickboxing. Since I tried
the cannabis hemp oil it really reduced the inflammation to the point
where I can walk without a limp for quitefor periods of time plus Im
doing a lot of other things to rebuild that. But for those that have arthritis
or almost any ailment you can think of the cannabis hemp oil is justits
working wonders.
Ty: Dr. Sahni talk about far infrared saunas. I know that youre a
big proponent of far infrareds. Talk about the effect that this can
have on cancer.
Dr. Irvin Sahni: So far infrared saunas, the way they work is relatively
simple. They exploit or take advantage of a portion of the
electromagnetic spectrum that basically increases the temperature of
the body, creates hypothermia without exposing the body to some of the
negative portion of the spectrum which we know is the ultraviolet
spectrum, go out in the sun too much you can get skin cancer especially
if you dont wear sunscreen and youre light complected.
So far infrared sauna takes a part of that spectrum that creates heat but
not necessarily damage in the way that being out in the sun does. I think
the Indians were probablyyou know, the American Indians were
people who were doing these more ritualistic heat treatments on
themselves long before far infrared saunas were around kind of. Maybe
they didnt understand the science behind it but they knew it was good
for you. But basically what it does is it raises your body temperature and
then your body has to release that heat.
The way we release our heat is by sweating and that sweating helps
the sweat helps carry the heat away from the body. So by stimulating
that mechanism people dont realize this but you excrete just as much
urea, okay, through your skin, maybe moreId have to go back and
look at the numbersbut a significant amount of toxins are excreted
through your skin as they are in your urine or your stool. And in some
cases probably specific toxins even more. And so by exposing yourself
to a reasonable timeframe and a reasonable level, a safe level, of heat
you can just basically stimulate your body to sort of accelerate that
excretion of toxins. And you can make that happen faster.
Dr. Darrell Wolfe: Well, let meremember what I said. I always want
you to question people. I want all my patients. I say you question me
and you question everyone else. If theyre not speaking logic, if one and
one dont make two or if you go there and you go Im confused, or if you
feel fear from something I said chances are Im lying or I don't know Im
lying.
Okay. So rebounding, think about it. When your children were young
and they couldnt walk and they were like little babies and they were
crying, what did you for them Ty? Do you remember? You bounced
them on your knee or you rocked them on your shoulder. Whyd you do
that? You rock the baby because the only way that the lymph system
can move is by up and down motion. And your lymph system, okay,
youve got eight pints of blood but youve got 12 quarts of lymph. Dont
you forget that. And when you find that youre getting all puffy and
swollen thats your lymph system and youre in big trouble.
So you know, when people they swell up like a puff ball, well, thats
because theyre retaining water because theyre so bloody toxic and
theyve been backing up waste for years. So when you start cleansing
out the colon and you rebound youre moving that stuff. If you move the
circulation its like if the water doesnt move you better not drink it
because its going to kill you because it has to circulate. So rebounding
also exercises every cell individually toning it.
AJ Lanigan: You know, Ive been asked that question many times. You
know who William Delakeli [ph] is. I am a tremendous believer in what
he has done, not only because of what Ive read in his book but Ive
probably over the years met close to a hundred survivors. Im talking
about not three year survivors, five year. Im talking about 10, 15, 20
plus year survivors. One of my closest friends, Dr. John L. Tate, up in
Spartanburg, South Carolina, hes a 40 plus year cancer survivor from
prostate cancer. Ive met woman with breast cancer. I actually met
somebody, a 15 plus year survivor of pancreatic cancer. I have
Ty: 15 years
using Beta Glucan. Ive seen tumors disappear. Ive seen doctors in
amazement. Are these the right records? Is this my patient? I mean
because this cant be because we havent treated you yet with chemo
and radiation. Your cancer cant be getting better. Your cancer cant be
gone. People who have embraced certain diets, coffee enema is one of
my favorites. As Dr. Tate used to always tell me, man, that coffee is
good but youre putting it the wrong end. I actually tried a few coffee
enemas. Ill be honest with you Id probably be in aId probably enjoy
being in a fist fight but if I had cancer Id figure out a way.
Ty: So let me ask you this Dr. J. if you were diagnosed with colon
cancer lets say what would you do?
Dr. David Jockers: Well, I will tell you I mean this does hit home. I
didnt talk about this in the beginning but early on in my practice I was
28-years-old and all of a sudden I had this big red spot on my nose right
here. And the cancer actually that my grandfather had was a melanoma,
a metastatic melanoma, so a skin cancer. And so I knew I was
susceptible to something along those lines. I grew up surfing on the
beach. So Ive had a lot of intense sun exposure, probably been burnt
way more than I would naturally recommend just really because I didnt
know any better. And so I knew I was susceptible and at that period of
time in my life I was living, number one, with a lot of fear. I had just
opened a business. I was in a tremendous amount of debt. I had a lot of
people counting on me. There was lots ofyou know when you run a
business theres confrontation. Theres all different types of issues and
you know, my nutrition wasnt excellent. It was great. I would say it was
a lot better than most people. It wasnt excellent.
There was a lot of things in my life that were issues. And so I looked at
myself in the mirror and I could see exactly what was developing. And I
knew enough to know that that was not normal. And certainly I could
have gone to a dermatologist or somebody for a more advanced
diagnosis of it but I really didnt need that. To me it was a wakeup call.
And I think really for all of us weve got to have eyes to see and ears to
hear in our own life because ultimately if were living in a way thats just
not beneficial to us and the people around us theres going to be
wakeup calls. And I just took inventory of where I was in my life and I
realized that fear was my dominating thoughtfear of failure, fear of
letting people down, and I knew I needed to work on myself mentally,
emotionally, spiritually. I looked at my nutrition. I realized, you know
what. There was probably way too many carbohydrates in there than
there should be. Okay. and so I took out the carbohydrates and went
And so I really needed to rest effectively. And I just took inventory of all
the different areas in my life sort of doing more detox, really trying to
detoxify my liver, utilizing some different supplements, some different
advanced strategies. In a matter of two months it completely went away.
And so to me it was justit was really just a message that, hey, my
body can heal itself. I just need to line up with the right principles. And
certainly, I wouldnt say I was in an advanced state of cancer but I was
looking at something that had the potential to kill me. And you know, by
just heeding that warning, taking inventory of my life, really getting in
under check I was able to heal myself naturally. And so I would take the
same approach.
Ty: If you were diagnosed with cervical cancer what would you
do? What would yourgive me your steps to treat cervical cancer.
Wendy Wilson: Organ cleanses, you want to do the five major ones.
And this is to make sure you have toxin removal, free flow of toxins
coming out of the body. So when you have too many toxins it
compromises the system and becomes a weakened chain, link in the
chain, and you can develop a problem. So you do your bowel cleansing.
You do it in this order because you want to open the last stage of toxin
removal first. So normally the blood would be filtering toxins to the liver
and then the liver will neutralize those impurities with an enzyme called
P450. And then the residues go to the gallbladder and the gallbladder
will dump those through the bowel, through the duodenum and the
urinary tract to leave the body. So you want to open the bowel and the
urinary tract first. So those are the colon cleanse and the urinary tract
cleanse you want to do. Then you can move to the liver and gallbladder
and then blood system. So once youve got the system purified make
sure you dont put anything in there that would compromise and
recongest the system is usually how I put it. So do your green
vegetables. You may want to do some juice therapy. Do some spirulina
and chlorella protein in your juicing, and just get some organic whole
foods into the system and get away from the processed foods, no
processed foods. Now theres even some herbal boluses that we
instruct folks that they can use to get to the area a little quickly. They
can do castor oil packs to draw more cancer out through the skin. You
can do a combination of things, not just one thing when it comes to
cancer. You can kind of pound it from different areas and just get it to
leave the body faster.
Wendy Wilson: Its real basic but its an old therapy. I mean its
hundreds of years old if not thousands of years old and it seems to be
very basic and its doable. People can do it.
Ty: So let me ask you this Mike, what would you do if you were
diagnosed today with prostate cancer? What would be your
protocol that you wouldand Im not asking you to recommend
this to anybody.
Ty: But what would you do personally if your doctor said you got
prostate cancer?
Mike Adams: Well, the first thing I would do is try to understand why
where did this prostate cancer come from. And a guy like myself who
eats very healthy foods and super foods and leads an anti-cancer
lifestyle. This news would be a shock and the most likely culprit would
be an environmental cause, probably a hormone disruption chemical.
So I would immediately start to think maybe Im being exposed to BPA,
Mike Adams: And its in receipts. See, this is the thing. When I take a
receipt from a place of purchase Im touching that receipt and Im getting
BPA from that receipt. So wed figure BPA.
Ty: Yeah.
Mike Adams: So then in that case youd want to get hormone sensitive
super foods or super foods that interact with that metabolic pathway
which would be, for example, I3C, indole-3-carbinole, which is one of
the medicinal phytonutrient constituents of broccoli, yeah, the
cruciferous vegetable. So I would immediately start doing that. If it were
prostate cancer I would also really up my dosage of resveratrol and
zincboth of those things are very, very useful for prostate cancer
prevention. You can get zinc in pumpkin seeds. So I would probably
intake myincrease my intake of pumpkin seeds. There are also
pumpkin seed proteins out there that maintain many of the
phytonutrients of the pumpkin seed. So I would start to become a
pumpkin seed protein smoothie guy with a lot of resveratrol. I would also
eat red grapes with their seeds and I would specifically chew on the
seeds to release the many beneficial nutrients that the seeds contained.
Ty: So Dr. Quillin, last question for this interview. If you were
personally diagnosed with stomach cancer, colon cancer, what
would you do?
Dr. Patrick Quillin: Good question! first of all, I would hope that my
lifestyle gives me that 90 percent protection that we can cut your risk by
90 percent of getting cancer if you do things right. However, theres still
that 10 percent. And what I would do is Id work with the brightest
medical staff that I could. Id look for good diagnostics. Theres reasons
But the first thing I would do is Id say Id like to have some information
about why I got it. Whats the underlying cause here? And here are
many very bright physicians in this country who look at etiology, toxic
burden, stress, malnutrition, take blood samples and look at whats the
level of everything from vitamins and minerals to whats the pH of your
body. Look at saliva samples, fecal samples, looking for parasites. So
an aggressive look at etiology, what caused this and a second
aggressive look at whats the stage, how invasive and aggressive is it?
And from that make some decisions that hopefully would lean towards a
relatively non-toxic therapy. For instance, intravenous vitamin helps
many, hurts none, infrared therapy, far infrared, cooking the cancer,
fever therapy helps some, hurts none.
Ty: The doctor comes to you and says Robert Scott Bell your last
blood work shows that you have lung cancer. What do you do?
Dr. Robert Scott Bell: Well, Im going to nebulize silver. Silver has
shown to have profound oncolytic properties. This is something we can
do. We talk about a pH issue sometimes. I don't know if youve covered
the use of the baking soda in this way. You can actually do a lavage
within the lungs to nebulize that into certain tissue of the lungs. Its a
little more difficult to do. But the silver alone is profound because the
cancer cells dont have an antioxidant defense mechanism. And the
silver brings with it as much as ten times its atomic weight in with every
particle of silver at a micro level. Were talking a nano scale level. And
you can overwhelm and devastate cancer cells in that area within the
alveola if you can inhale that deeply into your lungs.
Dr. Robert Scott Bell: Yeah. To take a liquid into a vaporized state for
safe inhalation.
KC Craichy: I had just been diagnosed with this kind of cancer. What
should I do? And I will go through these seven and it goes through
something like this that, first of all, of all stop all sugar and starch
carbohydrates. I say if its a carbohydrate, if its white it aint right. So the
net of it is, okay, first stop that, stop feeding the problem and whacking
your immunity like weve talked about. So its a double edge sword. Its
a terrible thing. So get your vegetables and eat tons of them, vegetables
primarily, fruits not so much, but vegetables, eat a lot of fibrous
vegetables. So if youre going to get a carbohydrate it should come from
a fibrous vegetable. Okay. And then follow the four corners of super
food nutrition I talked about. Get all the nutrients that you body needs
and get the four cornerslow calorie, nutrient dense, high broad
spectrum antioxidant, take in all five classes of antioxidants, as I talked
about reducing the sugar and the glycemic response, and then
increasing the healthy fats, the fish oil fats.
Now again, I go to antioxidant and fish oil. We have a lot of people out
there touting shell fish oils like krill oil or sea mussel oil, that sort of
thing. I mean its still omega-3 and so it does have omega-3 benefit but
the touting of that instead of fish oil is not appropriate according to the
literature, or the way I have reviewed it. And so yes, you can get benefit
from those things but you talk about that this krill oil has a lot of
astaxanthin in it therefore it can keep it from spoiling, some of the things
we talked about in keeping the oils from spoiling. But when I looked at
how much astaxanthin was actually in a krill pill it was so minute it was
unbelievable. So you want to try to get 1-mg of astaxanthin in addition to
all the tocotrienols and so on to get the fish oils because its really
important that we talk about it. So all these things that Ive talked about
already are reducing inflammation and reducing glycation and oxidation
and angiogenesis.
You have this problem, we need to deal with it now. But the truth is that
it most likely is not that level of emergency. Now it can be. But most
likely you have some time to get a second opinion, to get your bearings,
get your brain working and to go somebody like Ralph Moss or
somebody else and buy a report because he has a great report, which I
always send people to to get this report. It tells you what are the types of
care used for that particular kind of cancer out there and what are the
success rates of the various ones, and who are the practitioners that are
doing it and what are the alternatives? That kind of information is
incredibly powerful because its put in a way that you can literally hand
that to the doctor and theres scientific documentation. They have to go,
oh yeah, I guess that does make sense.
And if your doctor refuses to work with you or tells you that you should
not take antioxidants during cancer care, you might want to consider a
different doctor because the literature is not backing that up.
Ty: Webster, let me ask you a question. Lets say you went to the
doctor and he diagnosed you with pancreatic cancer.
Webster Kehr: Well, the first thing I would think about was, yes, now I
can experiment on myself. I would probably experiment on myself and if
it didnt work then I would use something thats proven to work. I would
notI have absolutely no fear of cancer.
Ty: I hope youve enjoyed tonights show. Weve gone over a lot of
treatment protocols, proteolytic enzymes, specific cancer
vaccines. We found what doctors would actually do personally if
they were diagnosed with a certain type of cancer. Great
information! I know that youve enjoyed it. Tomorrow nights show
you are going to love. Tomorrow is National Cancer Survivor Day.
And so the entire episode is dedicated to showing you what these
cancer survivors did to beat their cancer, their specific protocols.
Tomorrows episode is inspiring. its going to be educational and
its going to be a celebration of these peoples lives that are still
alive today because they implemented one of these natural cancer
treatments. You are not going to want to miss tomorrows show.
Thanks for tuning in tonight. Come back tomorrow. God bless.
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was happening to me at this time. I had no idea there was a reason for
even craving ice of this magnitude. We began a chemo regimen of six
months chemo treatment through a port-a-cath where I would have IV
treatments and I would have to go home with a little IV bag so I was
attached to chemo for three days at a time. I had been sick due to the
fact that my colon had completely closed off. And at 28-years-old no one
was looking for this. I had gone to doctors, I had gone to emergency
rooms, I kept being dismissed, being dismissed because of my age and
told that it was a stomach virus. When I was on Christmas break I went
to the emergency room because of getting sick one more time. I was
once again told this is just a stomach virus. You can go in and go home
and well take care of it later whenever you get back. Maybe its your
gallbladder. You can have your gallbladder taken out when you get back
home. I didnt believe that thats what was happening to me. And I
refused to leave the hospital.
The only test they could give me when I refused to leave was a CT
scan. And upon the CT scan reviews they found I had a large mass in
my colon and scheduled emergency surgery for Christmas day. On
Christmas morning I had the surgery and when I came to I was told that
I had stage III colon cancer that had ruptured from my colon into my
small intestines and had spread into lymph nodes. This is not what
anyone expects to hear at 28-years-old. I didnt have any history with
cancer myself. I really didnt have any knowledge about cancer, the
reason why it started so young. We did have a family history of it but no
one had ever had it at 28-years-old. So I began a chemo regimen. The
chemo was inserted through a port-a-cath in my chest and it was six
months worth of treatments. I would have treatments every two weeks
and I would have six hours worth of infusion in office and then I would
go home with a pack with more chemo that would continue for the next
48 hours. This went on for six months. And at the end of the six months
it was wonderful to have a scan and hear the news that I was cancer
free. Theres nothing like hearing that youre cancer free after a long
cancer battle. But of course, once you began the cancer battle you have
to continue having further testing to make sure that you remain healthy.
So six months after my testing, and I was told I was cancer free, I had
another scan. This time the scan came back that the cancer had
returned and it had returned in the lymph node between my neck and
my lower abdomen and it was spread throughout my body. Because the
cancer had returned and it was spread I was told I was stage IV. This
was right after my 30th birthday. So we once again began a separate
and a new chemo regimen. This time it was different treatments. This
time it was definitely more intense. And once again, the only focus was
getting me through treatment, getting me to eat food, hold food down,
and just survive the next six months, the same treatment as before. The
six months was much more challenging than my first round of chemo
the year before. At that time I was just going through the motions. I was
just doing what I had to do to survive.
The second time I was trying to simply live, live through the chemo. I did
lose my hair but hair comes back. I did have crazy changes from the
chemo treatment in my body. Chemo does some very, very unusual and
strange things to your body. All that goes away with time. I also had a
blood clot at this time. The blood clot almost killed me. It was my in
superior vena cava and my family was actually called in and told that I
might not survive through the night when this happened. I developed the
blood clot because of the port-o-cath that I was getting the chemo
treatments through. I did survive the blood clot as you can see. I was
told that at that time that no one survives blood clots that are the size of
a silver dollar. But for some reason I saw this one through. I continued
on with my chemo treatments, had another scan, so after two rounds
with colon cancer I was told that I was once again cancer free. And we
celebrated and felt this time weve really beat it. This time its done.
Later in that same year I had another PET scan just to confirm that the
cancer was gone. The PET scan came back clean. There was no signs
of cancer. Within just three weeks I myself noticed on my neck that I had
some enlarged lumps on my neck that I found very strange. So I told my
doctor about it and they said lets do another PET scan just to see what
we have going on here. This time the PET scan came back very
different than the first one. This time it came back showing that I had
between 10 to 15 tumors all throughout my abdomen and my neck that
the cancer was back full force, stronger than ever, and this time I was
told that I was terminal. No one wants to hear two days after you turn
31-years-old that you have terminal cancer. No one ever wants to hear it
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no matter what your age is. I decided that all the approaches we had
taken before obviously werent working. Something had to change.
Something had to be different this time. I didnt want to insult my
oncologist at the time but I did tell her Im going to get multiple opinions.
And she encouraged me to do so. So I seeked out five other specialists,
five other oncologists, many in the local area. Some even at the Mayo
Clinic. Every single oncologist agreed that this was terminal cancer.
They all agreed that I would never be cancer free and that I had less
than a year to live. No one ever wants to hear that you have a timeline
put on your life especially not at 31-years-old.
One thing we did all do is read the book, Cancer Free by Bill
Henderson, which describes the battle that he went through with his wife
doing here cancer treatments. And it also is a very informal book of how
to find supplements, how to find other ways of treating your cancer even
in conjunction with treatment, with chemotherapy. It gives an entire
listing of supplements that people have tried and found effective in their
cancer treatments. I knew at this time that there was no way I could
afford all of these supplements. I had a limited amount of time. I didnt
have the ability to try all of these supplements in combination with my
chemotherapy. Some of them would interfere with chemo treatments,
some wouldnt. But before I started chemo I decided to focus on one
supplement in the book and order it to begin that supplement before I
even began chemo treatments. That supplement was called Beta-1-3D
Glucan. You take it very easily. For me in my case I take two pills every
morning when I wake up and I wait a half an hour before I eat breakfast
or any food. If you happen to wake up in the middle of the night you can
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take your dosage then so as soon as you wake up you can eat and
theres no wait. Some people take more based on their weight. For
myself I stuck with two pills every morning. I didnt have any idea if this
supplement was helping me at all in the beginning. There wasnt
necessarily a way to measure it. What I did know is since I had put off
my chemo treatments at the time I was still having blood tests done and
the blood test, the CEA blood test count numbers were showing that it
was dropping even without chemo treatments. This was unexplained by
my oncologist. She had no idea why this number would drop before I
had even began chemo treatments.
So I stayed on this pill but I did have to drop my dosages over time. It
was becoming too strong for me so I ended up on a very extremely low
dosage of this pill. I stayed on this chemo pill for four years until my
doctors decided that there was no longer any evidence that the pill had
anything to do with my cancer not returning. To this day they cannot
explain what happened to my cancer, where it went, or why it is still
gone. They have no idea why I am cancer free at this point. The one
consistent item during all this time, during the last four and a half years
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Chris Walsh
Ty: So Im here with Chris Walsh today. Were at the Center for
Advanced Medicine and Clinical Research, Dr. Rashid Buttars
office in North Carolina. Thanks for being with us here today Chris.
Ty: And were sitting in front of the fish. So tell me about the fish.
What do they remind you of?
Chris Walsh: It reminds me of being here four years ago when I started
my treatment here and I used to stare at them while I was waiting in the
waiting in the waiting room lost not knowing what my future was going to
be
Ty: Right.
Ty: So you were here for what reason? You were here because
you had been diagnosed with what?
Ty: Okay.
Chris Walsh: That was four years ago almost today I was diagnosed
and from what we found out it hadit kind of had made its tentacles
inside of my leg. So they thought that I probably wouldnt have a leg
from here. And then obviously you know the conventional treatments
would have made it worse. I wouldnt have had a leg and Id probably be
dead now anyway, so. At that point I was really scrambling. And so I
went just kind of did as much research as I could. I actually went and
found your book, Cancer-Step Outside the Box, which really opened my
eyes to a lot of things. I mean I had no idea about any of this. I went and
bought Patrick Quillins book, Beating Cancer with Nutrition, started
following that immediately. And I saw Dr. Buttar speak at ahe had did
a little seminar at his old office and I didnt know what he did. But I
remember thinking that place seems really interesting. And so I called
my buddy up and I couldnt remember his name. and he said, oh, its Dr.
Buttar and I looked him up and he just so happens to treat cancer. So I
said I dont like my options now. I already talked to supposedly the best
guy in Cleveland and thats not what I was going to do. So I called Dr.
Buttar. I got a consultation and within the first 15 minutes I knew was
going to do it. I mean I didnt know anything about traditional or holistic
or alternative medicine. What he said to me just made so much sense. I
mean it just kind oflike why isnt everybody doing this? You know what
I mean? It seemed like such common sense to me but I guess its not.
Ive played golf professionally for the last ten years and so I was in the
sun every day and just lathering on sunscreen thinking that I was doing
myself a favor but since then Ive come to learn that thatI think that
was probably one of the causes of the skin cancer just bathing in those
chemicals every day. So I got to Dr. Buttars, they do all the tests. I
wasI had high levels of mercury, lead, barium, some just really
strange heavy metals. I have parasites. I have viruses. My immune
system was really weak. The strength in my immune system was weak.
I had amalgams in my mouth. I mean I was justI had a lot of mercury
which really disrupts the immune system.
Ty: Okay.
Chris Walsh: I have two legs. Im feeling great. My healths never been
better. I never get sick. I mean I just feel totally different.
Ty: Thats awesome. And I know this isthe testing that hes done
now I know Dr. Buttars level of impeccable records. And so I know
that by talking to you here that hes done a test to show that
theres no cancer.
Chris Walsh: Absolutely! We did the test when I started throughout the
protocol. And when I was done everything came back great, you know. I
was healthy. The metals were gone, the parasites, the viruses were
gone, my immune system and the immune function came back to
normal.
Chris Walsh: A good doctor aids the immune system in fighting it off. I
mean you go and get radiation or chemotherapy and the cancer is gone,
the environment is still there for the cancer to grow. Your immune
system doesnt work. I mean itll come back. Thats what happens all the
time. It happened to both my parents unfortunately, so. Ive seen it.
Ty: Well, this is really encouraging Chris. Youre here four years
later.
Ty: You were told you wouldnt have six months or youd have a
leg missing.
Chris Walsh: Almost four years to the dayI mean its about four years
to the day.
Shannon Knight
Ty: It sounds like they just threw almost everything including the
kitchen sink at you as far as recommended treatments.
Ty: You mentioned that they gave you, I think, a bottle of water
with pink on it. Whenwas it during breast cancer awareness
month, was it during October?
Ty: Talk about the big three treatments, the radiation, chemo, and
therapy. I appreciate you being honest with your feelings about
breast cancer awareness month. I know thats a sensitive topic.
But talk about the big three treatments, the chemo, radiation, and
surgery. What is your take on those treatments?
Ty: Now you talked about getting to your ribs and your lungs. So
are you saying that eventually the cancer spread to other organs?
Shannon Knight: No. Never. And they gave me the other paperwork
that said youve got costochondritis and youve got asthma. Go back to
work, dont carry more than three to five pounds. I had to ask for that
paperwork and take it to my oncologist when the lump in the center of
my chest had advanced just so he could have my records. And when I
saw it, my mother was sitting next to me, and they said, oh my gosh, the
paperwork said it was suspicious of it. How could they not tell me? How
could they not say anything to me? Not one word was mentioned.
Ty: Now you mentioned that the cancer the second time it spread,
spread to your sternum, lungs
Ty: What was the prognosis at that time and what did you do from
there?
Ty: And what exactly does that mean? What did that mean
according to him? What was being sensible?
Ty: Ive heard of that before but I have not heard of that side effect
from it.
Ty: What natural treatments did you choose at this point where the
doctor said its pretty hopeless?
Shannon Knight: Yeah. Well, when it was hopeless I saw, well, your
book for sure had a lot of different treatments in there. And my sister
found a place for me that had all of those treatments combined in one.
And she told me about it, New Hope Unlimited. And we had to raise
money. I said this is where I want to go. And the hospital was in Mexico
in San Luis and it was safe. It wasnt in where the drug cartel were. You
know everybodys afraid of Mexico. But the treatments were
phenomenal. It wastheres a list so Im going to let you know what
they were. It was high dose vitamin C intravenous. It was laetrile
intravenous. It was ozone therapy. It was dendritic cell therapy. It wad
dendritic cell cancer vaccine made with your own blood. It was
hyperthermia. It was hyperbaric chamber. It was treatments that are
going to boost your immune system, the thymus gland, magnetic
therapy, bio feedback . Weve all heard of rife. Theres SCIO, which I did
with my friend Cindy Jones. Quantum physics is big. We all need to be
taking a look at that. We have energy within our body and we cant
ignore that and we need to balance that too. So its a compilation of
things and it was a very comprehensive treatment program that I did. I
got my treatment in February of 2011 and I was symptom free. You
know when itsit had infiltrated my air passages and thats like a knife.
So I was symptom free in August, late August, and I got it confirmed
with a PET scan in October. So I can say it took six months.
Yeah. I had people saying that my eyes look clear. You dont look like
youve got stage IV cancer. In fact, there were rumors going around, two
rumors in one week when I was in remission, one, she never had
cancer, someone that went to my high school, good old Facebook,
okay, went around. And the other rumor shes not in remission. Its
impossible.
Ty: What did your oncologist say when he saw the new scans, the
new results?
Shannon Knight: Yeah. I like him. I cant wait to show him when Im in
three years remission so I can walk in there give him a hug.
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Ty: Now you mentioned stage IV, did thisthe cancer eventually
was stage IV.
Ty: Okay.
Shannon Knight: Stage IV, its was scary. My family was preparing for
me to die. My kids were crying and calling me scared, not my son. Hes
tough, a paramedic but my daughter was.
Shannon Knight: No. And both my kids definitely believe now which
makes me feel good because I want them to know there is another way.
This is not a time to be afraid. Im not afraid of cancer anymore.
that. And they removed the lymph node, the largest one which is about
the size of a lemon from my armpit.
Kevin Campbell: She went in and she got the lymph node removed
and it came back after
Cortney Campbell: And it was a very rare cancer and they werent
quite sure how to treat it because it wasone doctor said the extreme
chemo, another doctor said, well, we might be able to give you a
monoclonal antibody called Rituxan and see how you do first. And then
if it doesnt respond then maybe well go towards theour top chemo,
which was what the first doctor suggested.
Cortney Campbell: A
Kevin Campbell: Yeah. And this was all very quick. It was very quick.
Cortney Campbell: The plush recliners and the view of the forest.
Kevin Campbell: Uh-huh, the upper level sort of penthouse view of the
nice forests of Atlanta and
Cortney Campbell: But when youre walking through that chemo room
and theres these people receiving their chemotherapy you dont see the
forest and the plush chairs and the personal television
Cortney Campbell: Yeah. You see these sick, sick, sick people
Kevin Campbell: And people that just almost look like a shell or a
ghost of themselves. And your mind is just beside itself and in the midst
of all the chaos as we were going through this room, and again, this is
only, what, our third appointment.
Cortney Campbell: Right, this is right after they had told us about the
30 to 70 percent chance of infertility because of the RCHOP which is a
very, very harsh chemotherapy.
Kevin Campbell: Well, our doctor, our oncologist, his residency was
it
Kevin Campbell: Right, he was like your hair is going to fall out, your
nails are going tohow about your stomach is going to have all these
issues, and by the way, your ovaries will shut down. But dont worry,
theres a
Cortney Campbell: They may or may not. Your fertility may or may not
return and they wanted to refer us to a fertility specialist to get eggs
frozen or embryos frozen which we were likeI mean were getting all
thiswere having to make all these decisions. Were newlyweds.
Kevin Campbell: And it was so just confident, calm, short, this is not
for you.
Cortney Campbell: Just get it out of me. I just want it out of me. Its
like a scene from Aliens or something. I just didnt know any better. I
thought it was just this one place. Cancers only here
Kevin Campbell: The cancers inside of her and we just want to get it
out.
Kevin Campbell: Thats not reality. Its not an option. And being highly
sensitive as it is Cortneys the sweetest person in the world and so now
shes got this cancer and so her emotions are running high. Im like
buckling down. Shes going more into an emotional state and Im going
more into the Im going to be the
Kevin Campbell: Yeah and just do my part to logically make sure this
doesntanyway. So yeah, I just remember it was some really hard
times and family didnt understand and we were trying to
Cortney Campbell: Why were you notwhy are you not already going
through treatment. Its been three weeks or its been four weeks or its
beenit eventually became six weeks orand on and on from there.
The real turning point for me was one day I got home and Bill
Hendersons book arrived at the door and I actually started fishing
through it.
Cortney Campbell: Its called Cancer Free; Your Guide to Gentle Non-
Toxic Healing. And it just made sense to me. It was just like a meant to
be kind of thing because it was simply written. It was in simple terms
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and he also lays out a protocol in it. And I actually read through it in
probably two or three days and I decided that I was going to give itI
don't knowI think I decided three months. Ill give this three months
and Im going to try it and Im going to hard core. And if anyone knows
me I go hard core on things if I put my mind to it. I accomplish it whether
its running or natural child birth or a cancer treatment. And soor
whether its eating. And this wasit was a huge change for me because
I ate diet coke and Cheez-its. Im not joking. I didnt eat salads. I didnt
eat vegetables. Bill recommended a completely organic raw vegan diet
with the Budwig protocol which is the cottage cheese, flax seed oil, and
quite a few supplements, betaglucan and vitamin C and green tea
extract and a complete multivitamin that was more pills than I ever took
in probably my whole life. It just seemed like every day I was taking I
think 26 supplements in the morning, and 16 at lunch, and 26 at night. It
was just crazy how much I ended up taking.
Kevin Campbell: Yep SCIT. And were going to a local practice here
that ishas almost like an alternative or integrated approach to
treatments for different things including cancer. And were seeing a
doctor there who spent, I don't know, an hour and a half with us. And it
was in the lobby of that office that we found a natural awakenings
magazine which led us to a raw and living foods institute here in Atlanta
called the Living Foods Institute. And we went there and did a 12 day
detox program and learned a lot
Cortney Campbell: Met a lot of people who were of the similar belief
Kevin Campbell: I was like we just gotten sort of our minds wrapped
around this whole situation with cancer and now we found out were
pregnant. And you know, it was one of those things of having peace in
the chaos. I mean it was just like, okay, heres this situation we were
told we wouldnt get to be in or to enjoy and now here it, you know.
Cortney Campbell: So shes a year old now, so. Were very blessed
and I just want to shout to the rooftops that this should definitely be part
of anybodys just to consider and to research and to research into there
are other options besides chemotherapy and radiation. And you have to
go where you find that peace. And dont act out of fear.
Ty: If you could tell us a little bit about your personal experience.
You mentioned prostate cancer. What did you do to treat your own
cancer?
So in medicine we treat boiling points, right. So Ill give you this little
analogy that if you were to take a pot of cold water and put it on the
stove and then stick your hand in it, and then turn the heat on high, at
some point you would take your hand out of that water because its
getting so hot, right. And that may be a 130 degrees, it may be a 140
degrees depending on your pain tolerance. One you take your hand out
of that water and it stays under there once it gets to 212 degrees, right,
if were talking about solute-free water at sea level then at 212 degrees
its going to boil, right. Now if you stick your hand in that water at 212
degrees, right, youre going to get burned, right. If you stick your hand in
there at 211 degrees its going to burn, 210 or 200. So its not a good
idea to wait till the boiling point, right, to make that an actionable time for
you to intervene. But thats what we do in conventional medicine, right.
So youthat waters getting hotter and hotter and hotter here and your
A1C gets up to 5.7 or 6.0 or whatever the number is and thats the
boiling point. Now all of a sudden you had diabetes, right. Lets say your
hemoglobin A1C is at 6.0. Well, what were you at 5.9, right? You
werent boiling but you were still hot enough that youre getting burnt,
right. The same thing with high blood pressure. So with the PSA the
boiling point is four, right. So thats when they say you need to get a
biopsy or whatever. Well, what was it at 3.9, right? We should be
looking or investigating why PSAs are elevating when they get anything
above 2.0, right, so above 2.0 youve either got some type of infection or
you haveor you got cancer, right, if you havent had trauma or some
of these other things. So when it got to a 4.0 I approach actually one of
my instructors hereyou know, Ive lived here, I went to medical school
here, finished up medical school here in Amarillo so I know many of the
doctors and many of them had been my teachers in medical school. And
Mike Wilkerson is a local urologist that I had studied under, really good
guy. So I went to him. And I was only 50-years-old and very good
looking. And so its hard to believe looking at me that Ive got cancer. So
he didnt believe that I had cancer and told me most likely this was an
infection, you know. Lets take some antibiotics and then well check it
again. And so I went with his recommendation and we did that and the
number had went up. And so I said, Mike, I think its time for us to do a
biopsy. He agreed. And there was cancer and there was, not just
cancer, I mean it was widespread cancer as youll see on the
documentation.
So I had taken care of my mother. She had been diagnosed with colon
cancer back in 2000 and we did the natural immune boosting therapies
on here. They had given her six months to live and she lived for six
years. And so I started doing the same thing with myself. At this time I
was headed on my way actually up to be with Dr. Jonathan Wright to
work with him in the clinic up there in Renton, Washington. And so he
and I put our heads togetherwere able to put our heads together and
to start to do some things in order to boost the one, boost up the
immune system, two, maybe to kill off some of the cells because there
will be some cells that refuse to change. And so we started doing those
things. And you know, made the numbers come down. One of the things
that we did out thereI was able to do it out there because of the laws
out there, medical marijuana is legal. So we did the medical marijuana,
we did high dose vitamin D. We did this immune therapy called the
universal oral vaccine, of course, the diet was very important so did the
juicing and away from any kind of grains, sugars, and that type of thing.
And you know, and I saw that I had symptoms that let me know that my
cancer had progressed. So I saw those symptoms reverse.
But it really had gotten up to a point, you know, where I had said my
good-byes to everybody and let people know that this is were in kind of
in a no win situation here. But then things turned around and long story
short, you know, went and had a repeat PET scan here back in, I guess,
November that well be able to get a shot of also that, again, showed no
cancer, so. And Ive done this with person after person after person if
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they are willing to do what it takes to get off this toxic diet, right. Thats
usually kind of the stumbling block for a lot of people. Theyre just so
addicted to the sugar and the wheat and so forth. You know, they just
cant get off of it. But when people do we certainly do see, again, a
reversal of his pleomorphism and cancers not there anymore. I mean
the cells are still there but they have just chosen that they dont need to
be cancer cells anymore.
Dr. Nicholas Gonzalez: Arlene, I can use her name because shes a
good friend. In fact, she called today. She saidI got to give her a call.
Arlene Van Stratton, she was one of Kellys great patients. I now follow
here. 1982, Appleton, Wisconsin, typical American success story. She
and her husband ran a gas station seven days a week, worked their tail
feathers off, added a store to it, they were later bought out by a big
chain and becamethey were able to putlets put it this way, they put
their kids and their grandkids through college. She starts getting
gallbladder pain. Her doctors says, you got a gallbladder problem. This
is 1982 before theyd routinely do CAT scans. They take her to surgery
and take out her gallbladder.
Okay. Well, shes got a tumor in her pancreas, tumor in the liver. The
biopsy of the liver lesion its adenocarcinoma, metastatic pancreatic,
close her up, meets with her oncologist. Chemo was going to do nothing
to this in 1982, still does nothing today in 2014. Goes to the Mayo Clinic,
and I have the note from the Mayo Clinic guy who said Im not going to
give you chemo. Itll just ruin your quality of life. Enjoy your life. Well,
she went to the best of the best. They said they cant do anything. She
learns about Kelly from his 32-page book, One Answer to Cancer, 1969.
Kelly goes, well, I trained this chiropractor locally, he trained some
people, who does it really well. Hes near your town. Why dont you go
see him? She does. Under Kellys direction goes onto the program.
Well, she never went back to another doctor. Here it is 2014 and shes
alive and well. Interestingly enough, paradoxically, ironically, today she
called so she wants to chat. Usually its about her family.
Ty: 32 years
Dr. Nicholas Gonzalez: Shes alive, yeah. thats all you need to know.
You dont need to do anything else. The average survival for stage IV
cancer, pancreatic cancer, in those days and today is like three, to four,
five months. Nobody lives beyond about 18 months with that kind of
disease once its in the liver.
Ty: Oh yeah.
challenge anyone who watches this to match the case. Critics can
criticize. Criticism is easy. Any critic out there matched the case. Ill be
impressed.
Ty: 32 years.
Ty: Could you please share with us your own breast cancer
conqueror story?
So my journey lasted from 2004 through 2006. And Ive been happy and
healthy ever since. But as I was going through that journey there was
one thing that was gnawing in my gut is was why would somebody like
me develop breast cancer? I had done everything right. I was under
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chiropractic care. I was eating organic before organic was in style. I had
home births, breast fed all my children. I had massage, I exercised, I ate
well. I thought I was doing everything right. But as I started studying
more and researching more I realized that there were some components
that I was missing. And thats what led me to create what I call the
seven essentials or seven basic steps that if people follow they never
have to fear cancer again.
Chris Wark
Chris Wark: Well, I was 26, okay, so I was a newlywed, been married
two years. I was working in the real estate business buying a rental
property and renovating houses. And I had been doing that just a couple
years. So you know, I really had just kind of felt like I was just being an
adult, you know what I mean, like out of college a couple years, working,
newlywed. And I started having abdominal pain.
Ty: Okay.
Chris Wark: And I thought I had an ulcer. You know, Id never had any
illness before, never had any majorthe flu when I was a kid or
something but nothing major. And I thought, I don't know, is this an
ulcer? Like whats going on? And I had this pain that would come and
go and it was kind of like Ground Hog Day because every morning I
would wake up and Id immediately think like how do I feel? And Id be
like, oh, I feel good. Okay. No pain. And then Id go throughout the day
but then I would get these twinges of pain, you know, most days and Id
be like, oh, there is it again. And then Id go to sleep, kind of worried
about it, and then Id wake up and, well, no pain, right. And so that kind
of went on for many months. And I kept thinking maybe my body would
get better because my body had always healed in the past and I believe
that that body is designed to heal.
And sobut the problem was I didnt make any changes in my life, right.
I didnt understand cancer at the time and so I just kept living my life the
way I was living it which was in a very unhealthy way. And this pain got
worse and worse and eventually I went to a doctor and they thought I
had an ulcer and gave me some medication that didnt help. And then
Ithrough a series of doctors appointments eventually ended up at a
gastroenterologist who did a colonosciopy and found a golf ball size
tumor in my large intestine. And you know, I came out of the procedure.
They had put me under and I woke up. And you know, I was still
medicated. You know, it was like where am I? Whats happening? And
the doctor came in and he washe basically said, you know, we found
this tumor. You might have cancer. We have to send it to the lab. And
my wife started crying on the nurses shoulder and I was just like what
whats going on? That wasnt even
Ty: 26-years-old.
Chris Wark: And so at that moment I wasnt even sober, you know
what I mean. So it didnt even really make sense. It just felt like a dream
that I didnt understand. But a couple days later I got the call from the
doctor and he said, listen, you know the lab report came back. You have
colon cancer. And so that was heavy. And you know, thats kind of when
my life came to a grinding halt. You know they took out the tumor. They
took out a bunch of lymph nodes. The surgeon said, look, I took out
everything I could see. We got clear margins but youre going to need to
nine to twelve months of chemotherapy. But there were a few things that
happened in the hospital that were very serendipitous that really started
the wheels turning. And one of them was the first meal that they served
me.
Ty: 18 centimeters
Chris Wark: A third, right, and the first meal they served me was this
sloppy Joe. And Im kind of famous for the sloppy Joe story because its
the most ridiculous food that you could serve a sick person, right. Its the
best example of the worst cafeteria food, you know what I mean? What
is the worst cafeteria food you can think of? Its a sloppy Joe. And thats
what they gave me first meal after cutting my abdomen open and
removing part of my guts. And they set it front of me and I was just
looking at it going this doesnt seem like the best thing for me right now.
Chris Wark: Yeah, right. I mean I wouldnt even eat thatI wouldnt
want to eat that any time. Okay. It wasIm never in the mood for a
sloppy Joe. And so not only was I not really happy about that as a food
choice but I just thought like this is like a hospital. This is like full of sick
people. Shouldnt we be feeding them better than this? Like shouldnt I
be eating like some applesauce or something. You know, I eatand at
that time I really didnt know anything about nutrition but just my
instincts, the red flag kind of went up. The next thing that happened was
the day I was checking out from the hospital the surgeon came in to
check on me and I said, hey, you know, is there anything I need to eat
or avoid or whatever? Andbecause I was a little concerned. I didnt
want to go home and like eat something like some Doritos and like
screw it up. And he was like, nah, just dont lift anything heavier than a
beer.
Chris Wark: Yep. That was it. And so I reluctantly agreed to go see an
oncologist. And we go in thewere sitting in the clinic in Memphis.
Well, first of all, the parking lots packed. You couldnt even get a parking
place. And the waiting room is packed. I sit down. Im looking around
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and theres no one in there even remotely near my age. Im 26. I got
long, shaggy hair, a handle bar mustache like rock dude and Im just
kind of checking it out. And who else is in the cancer club. It was me
and a bunch of seniors, senior citizens, not high school or college
seniors. And I just thought, God, I dont belong here. The television was
on and out comes Jack Lalanne right as Im sitting in the cancer clinic
couch and he starts going off about nutrition and fruits and vegetables
and the reason were sick is because were all eating junk food, right.
And you needif man made it dont eat it. And I was like, oh man, hes
just speaking to me through the television right now. Like this is
exactlyhes reaffirming everything that I had just started to
understand. And we go into see the oncologist finally. You know, its like
you wait in a waiting room for an hour and then they put you in a smaller
waiting room for another hour. And then you get in another little room.
Eventually the oncologist comes in. It was just very robotic. You know,
they see 20 patients, 30 40 patients a day and he just comes in and
he looked at my chart Im sure for two minutes. Whats this guy got.
Comes in and gives me the standard pitch. He said look, you know,
youve got stage II colon cancer. You havewith therapies you have a
60 percent chance of living five years. And I thought
Chris Wark: Yeah, I mean I was not impressed by those odds. And I
thought, gee, thats not much better than a coin toss.
Ty: 50/50
Chris Wark: not much. And I asked him if there were any alternative
therapies available. And he said, No. There are none. If you dont
chemotherapy youre insane.
Chris Wark: Yeah. Yep. I asked him about the raw food diet, he said,
no you cant do that itll fight the chemo.
Chris Wark: At the time I was like, what does that mean? Well, later I
realizedI found out that the raw food diet is a very aggressive
detoxification diet. And when youre on a raw food diet your body starts
kicking out chemotherapy and it doesnt do what they want it to do. It
doesnt destroy your body. And it doesnt do the damage they want it to
do. And so they dont want you to be on a raw food diet. The other
reason is because chemotherapy is also very destructive on your
immune system and bacteria thats normally harmless on an apple, lets
say. Could pose a potential problem in your body because your immune
system is so weak from chemo. So they wont let youthey dont want
you to do raw food. I was already on the raw food diet. Id been on it for
a week. I was like hard core. I just adopted it, right. I was excited about
it. I felt going into the clinic I felt very confident about what I was doing.
And everything else hes told me, everything else the oncologist said to
me is really a blur because he really scared me so bad that I kind of
shut down. And I walked into the clinic confident and I walked out
terrified. And I went to the desk and I made an appointment to get a port
put in to start chemotherapy. And my wife and I walked out into the
parking lot and we sat in her car and we held hands, and we cried and
we prayed, and we were just terrified. And I believe that was on a Friday
because I had a few days before they were supposed to put this port in.
I think it might have been like on Monday or Tuesday or something.
Chris Wark: Thats right. They put a port in your chest. Its basically a
direct line into your arteries or whatever, your veins or arteries, so they
canits easier than giving you a
Ty: An IV
Ty: And this is the same oncologist that told you were insane if
you didnt do chemo.
Ty: Okay.
Chris Wark: And it was like a Freudian slip. You know what I mean?
Either that or it was the push away which is a sales technique. And
where you kind of give someone like I dont really need your business
and it kind of makes them want to do business with you. You know what
I mean?
Ty: Yeah
Ty: Wow! So
Ty: Okay. So 10 years out and cancer free withoutand you said
you decided not to do chemotherapy.
Ty: Okay.
Chris Wark: After that they sent me a certified letter. They were calling
my house. They were after me to try to get me to do chemotherapy. And
I just was avoiding their calls. Im like leave me alone. Like Ive made up
my mind. This is what Im doing.
Ty: Did you ever talk to the oncologist about the phony statistics
or the incorrect statistics that he gave you because clearly that
was not accurate.
Chris Wark: No, I never went back. And I know why he did it. He did it
because he knew the truth was extremely discouraging. You know, if he
had come in and said, look, with the therapies we have available youve
got about at 30 percent chance of living five years. I would have been
out the door in five seconds. See ya! But he told me 60 percent because
he thought, well, you know, maybe this will sound better. This will be
more encouraging. Maybe itll give him more hope, right? Itll make the
treatment sound more appealing, right. 60s way better than 30.
So thats why I did it. Thats why I did it. Its just basic economics. They
need a steady supply of patients to make money and you know, doctors
arent bad people but theyre trained. They go to med school and they
go tothey have residency and it takes 15 20 years for a doctor to go
through all the training and actually go through enough practice before
they realize that everything theyve been trained to do doesnt really
work and that most of their patients end up dying. And by that times its
too late to change careers and theyre making a high six figure income.
The average oncologist makes almost 300 thousand dollars a year. And
yet in a survey that just came out about a month ago on Medscape, 52
percent of oncologists reported that they were unsatisfied with their
income.
Chris Wark: I guess its not enough. So you know, from there basically
it was I was totally trusting in God to lead me at that point because its
like, alright, everybody thinks Im crazy. Im alone. I was very much
alone.
Chris Wark: Well, they werent comfortable with it. They thought I was
being stubborn and hard headed and foolish. My mom was big
supporter of me. Shes always beenmy moms always been into
health food. Shes always been sort of a health junkie. And so she was
a huge, huge ally for me at that time. And I love my wife. Were still
married. Weve been together 18 years but she was terrified.
Ty: Congratulations!
Chris Wark: Yeah, thank you. She didnt know what to do. She didnt
know how to help me. And she really thought I was making a mistake
and a lot of other people did too. But I had to trust that God was leading
me, that he had answered my prayer and if so that I could trust that that
was the route that would lead me ultimately to health. So I had very little
support. I was very much alone in the beginning. But whats neat is my
mom had a bunch of books about alternative cancer therapy and a
bunch of books about health and stuff written by Paul Bragg and all
kinds of these just great health books that she had collected over the
years for no real reason. And as soon as I started reading and
researching and found out about different authors and books and health
leaders and experts and I would mention them to here. Shed say, oh, I
have that book. And Im like youve got this library of books like for me,
you know. There was no other reason. She was like saving them up for
me and didnt realize it.
Ty: She was collecting them for you over the years and didnt
know what the purpose was until now.
Chris Wark: Just the amazing giant salad. We shared one at Jasons
Deli recently.
Ty: Yeah.
Chris Wark: Yeah, just a giant salad full of like all this really amazing
food from the earth that was put here for us. And I ate that twice a day
and then I would make fruit smoothies with the fresh coconut and
berriestwo cups of blueberries, blackberries, raspberries,
strawberries. Berries are very potent anticancer fruits. And that was it.
That was the daily diet. And it was every day and I did that for 90 days.
It was a 100 percent raw food for 90 days.
Chris Wark: Cancer is the symptom of a sick body. And you cannot cut
a tumor off or shrink a tumor or poison a tumor and expect to stay well
and stay healthy because youre not addressing the real problem.
Youre only addressing the symptom. And its like cutting off your nose to
get rid of a cold. It doesnt solve the real underlying problem.
Ty: And I guess September of this last year we both had the
privilege of speaking at a conference in Atlanta and I was able to
speak to a patient of yours that is a pancreatic cancer survivor of
13 years.
Ty: Can you talk a little bit about here? Ill mention her name,
Sarah Cooper. And talk about the treatment protocol that youve
used with Sarah to be out 13 years with pancreatic cancer which is
supposed to be a death sentence.
Dr. Linda Isaacs: Right. Well, she was originally diagnosed in the fall
of 2000 and then she was found to have a mass in the pancreas. So a
few months later, it took a little time, I think people were telling her she
should get surgery and thats what they were advocating. But she wasnt
too keen on that idea. So eventually she did though get a needle biopsy
which showed that she had poorly differentiated adenocarcinoma which
is another way of saying it was really bad news. And there are different
types of pancreatic cancer. So just to be absolutely sure the hospital
sent the slides onto an expert at the Mayo Clinic who also looked at
them and said, yes, this is pancreatic cancer. Its the adenocarcinoma,
the nasty kind. So they once again suggested that she really should
have surgery but she had done her research. Shes a very smart woman
and she had checked into how well surgery works for pancreatic cancer.
So she wound up going on her program off the protocol, so to speak,
what she was advised to do then, the nuts and bolts of the program for
her, large doses of pancreatic enzymes, some other supplements that
are designed to help support the body as she fought against the cancer,
and a dietin her case it was predominantly vegetarian although it does
include eggs and fish, some dairy products, and the coffee enemas,
other detoxification routines. So thats the program that she was on
which shes implemented over the last 13 years now.
Ty: You are sitting here today. You look like a picture of health.
But that wasnt the case four or five years ago.
Dr. Charles Majors: I wouldits been almost five, five and a half, six
years ago I started having severe headaches. And obviously what I do
Im taking care of people every day with headaches. You know, so Im
thinking, okay, its probably just coming from my spine and my nerves.
And I was getting adjusted. The headaches were doing phenomenal but
it kept coming back. I then finally started getting weak. I was losing
weight. I did some blood work and the blood, my white blood cells. I was
anemic, things were going on. At that point we knew something was
going on. I was diagnosed with Lyme disease at that time. So we started
taking care of the Lyme. I ran another test, still not feeling good, but ran
another Lyme test. The Lyme was clear. They cleared out the Lyme.
And so at that point I knew that it was time for an MRI.
And they looked atthe doctor looked at my wife and my mother and
they said you dont want to see this. At that time is they had to take a
drill and drill down the top of my head here to put a tube down there to
start draining the fluid there was so much fluid in my brain.
Dr. Charles Majors: Yeah, I got a scar here and I have a scar here but
if they went down this way to take the fluid out of my brain literallyand
they cant usethey dont use medication when they put a hole in your
head. So they literally, no medication at all they have to drill a hole down
through my head to put a tube into there. And it literallypeople say
what did it feel like or sound like. It sounded like somebody was going
through tile or porcelain like they were drilling through the head and then
pulling back up. Its like a little saw it looks like.
So they put the tube in there and Ill tell you at that point youre like
thank God for modern medicine. Headaches went away immediately.
They got the fluid out of there. And thats what medicines there for.
Medicines crisis care. I was in a crisis, you know, but there was no way
they were going to get me back to health again but it was definitely there
for a crisis. They got the fluid out of there. I could function. The next day
the neurosurgeon came in and said, you know, this here is going to be
easy. Were going to go through about a week of preparation to get you
ready making sure you can handle the surgery. Theyre going to do a
brain surgery.
They went into the room to tell my wife. They said, we have bad news.
It wasnt benign tumors. It was cancerous. And when I went to cut on
the first onewhen you cut on cancer or you mess with it at all it swells.
And the cancer began to swell and it started to bleed. And obviously
what does the blood carry? More cancer. So they said that the chances
are that I may not wake up in the morning because the swelling was so
big in the brain now and the cancer was spreading worse.
And so I woke up the next morning and I have tube down my throat
because I couldnt breathe, tubes coming out of my stomach, tubes
coming out of my head. And Im thinking the tumors are gone. I have no
clue whats going on. No ones telling me anything. And finally they told
me that it wasnt benign. That this was cancer. And I couldnt speak at
all to anyone else. And then they said, we need to do more testing. Its
worse than that. So what could be worse than cancer already in your
brain and spreading. They said its worse than that. its the secondary. Its
coming from somewhere in the body. So then they went and did CAT
scans and PET scans and did everything they could for the next three or
four days. They could not find any cancer anywhere else. Finally they
had to do a bone marrow test.
They went in, they drill your bone marrow and they take out some bone
marrow. They test it. About 37 to 40 percent of my blood was making
cancer. And so I was diagnosed at that time with a multiple myeloma
which is the myelocytes were reacting. So I had all this myeloma and
the myelocytes. I had bone marrow cancer and because it was made in
the blood it spread. What was interesting is because of the way I was
living it never went to any other organ. Almost every single myeloma
patient it goes to their spine, their bones crack, and its a horrible death
where mine only went up to my brain. So whatever I was doing they said
how I was living at least kept it out of the rest of my body because they
figured it should have been all through my bones. It should have been
everywhere else.
At that time the two oncologists, they walked into the room with me to
give me the bad news. And they said, you know, the bad news is its
incurable. Its already in your brain. The only thing we could do is bone
marrow transplant, high dose chemo, and some radiation. And that
would only buy you time. That was a Thursday morning I was let out. I
literally got on a plane at 5:00 in the afternoon and flew to Reno,
Nevada to see Dr. James Forsyth. Hes one of the premiere oncologists
in the world. What he was using there was IV vitamin C, poly MVA, he
had his own Forsyth immune therapies. I was doing all different stuff. I
was doing all the diet stuff which I knew how to do working on all the
supplementation, all the exercise work. I was doing all that. And they
were killing it.
And just like I teach now that the number one thing that has to be done
when someone has cancer is you have to get to the cause. The second
step is, you know, now kill it. But if you dont get to the cause and stop
creating it and stop making it it doesnt matter if I kill it or not. I could
have killed all this cancer. It would have bought me some time, thank
God, like chemo and radiation may do. But if I dont stop making it, if I
dont get to the cause its going to come back anyway. So when I was in
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Reno with Dr. Forsyth I was there so he could help kill it because it was
spreading. It was in my brain. I could barely function. So he was helping
kill the cancer. I was working on stopping making it, changing my
lifestyle, changing the environment. I was there about three weeks.
I left there, came home, began all myall the protocols at home. I had
ozone machine, which rectal ozone, PEMF, positron electronic
magnification frequencies. I was doing infrared saunas. I was doing a
high dose proteolytic therapies, poly MVAs, I wasI mean I was doing
probably a 100 to 120 supplements a day throughout. And then my
blood work was being read at that time by Dr. Hilu in Spain whos
another top cancer doctor there. And he would read my blood and then I
went out there about four months later. I spent two weeks there,
amazing, following him, watching him do what he does. And now I send
my blood over there every three to six months to him. I do my blood
work here. And now itsobviously its going on almost four years now
that Im feeling good, doing better than ever. Blood works look clear. Dr.
Hilu even said to me, stop sending your blood to me, send it next year.
But I still send it all the time because for me medicines there tothank
God. I could run every medical test on you, every cancer test on you, I
could do every medical test there is, one wouldnt find cancer after you
have it, right? Thank God we have those tests but I dont want to wait for
a test. Medicines early detection of a disease thats already existing. Its
not healthcare. Its not preventative care. The disease is already there.
And thank God we have those things but those things arent going to get
me back to health again.
knew who I was. I happen to be on the Bob Atkins Show. Bob Atkins is
an old friend my journalism days. Id included him in a couple of my
articles. So we remained personal friends. He had a very well listened to
national radio show back in those days and he knew about my Kelly
study. Id given a copy which I couldnt get published. And he had me on
his show and this patients social worker that she was consulting with
because of the stress of cancer happened to have an interest in
alternative medicine. She actually ironically she worked for the
American Cancer Society.
And weve learned often the difference between success and failure is
the attitude of the patient. Yeah, we treat people biochemically, yeah.
My goal is life once I adopted science is my new lifestyle was to spend
my life at Sloan-Kettering doing basic science research. I never even
thought Id see patients. But Ive learned I have to change that. Ive
learned a lot of this from Kelly that the attitude and the mind of the
patient are the single most important determinants. Patients that are at
peace with their situation are facing the practitioner always do the best. I
always tell patients if you dont trust your practitioner whether its me,
Joe Schmo down the street, Sloan-Kettering, leave.
Find someone you believe in because your lack of belief, your lack of
faith or lack of trust will undermine your treatment, whatever it is,
chemo, radiation, or something else. She trusted me from the beginning,
did the program. I don't know why she did but there was something that
resonated. We got along great, did the program, didnt want scans, said
whats the point. They told me Im going to be dead so why do scans?
Why expose myself to the radiation? Even back in the 1980s she was
thinking like that. Finally, 2001, 14 years later. I said look, Im trained as
an academician. Humor me. Do a bone scan. We wont do CAT scans.
Okay. I dont want you getting the radiation. Let me do a bone scan. She
didall the tumors were gone. And shes alive and well now. It 26 and a
half years since her diagnosis with stage IV metastatic inflammatory
breast cancer developing metastases while on aggressive
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Jason Vale
Ty: But Im not going to arm wrestle you because youll probably
flip me over.
Ty: But anyway, Jason and I have never met before but weve
interviewed on the radio several times. And Im so excited to
interview tonight because this is the reason that I got involved with
alternative cancer research almost 20 years ago when my dad was
diagnosed with cancer. The first thing that I did was do some
research and I found Jasons video. He was on a show called
Extra. And they interviewed him on the show about the protocol
you had used to cure your own cancer, so. What I want to do is just
get your story tonight man. Howtalk about being diagnosed and
the treatments that you used and then eventually the time that you
spent in jail. So Jason take it away my friend.
pneumonia your whole lung is white, and thats what it was. It was white.
And if you have a tumor in your lung, the tumors white.
So they didnt see this huge tumor, which actually was a grapefruit size.
So about two months later I still have pneumonia and mythe doctor,
my personal doctor, Mr. Rabinowicz [ph] said, listen, Im going to put
him in for exploratory surgery because this is not going away. I went in
for exploratory surgery because they said they thought I might have
empyema which isempyema is like a pus pocket outside of the lung
which causes pneumonia to stay an extra few months and they have to
kind of go in and get that out. And you get a chest tube and all that stuff.
So anyway, they operated on me and I woke up eight hours later
because it wasnt a normal operation. Actually when they went in they
found a tumor the size of a grapefruit, a connecting tumor the size of a
lemon next to it. And when I woke up they told me that. and I didnt
realize the seriousness of it because Im justI didntI really didnt
realize anything. And my mother and father they know, you know, they
have to bring it to theget a pathology report and were going to know
in a week or two if its cancer or not. And I wasnt even thinking along
those lines yet. So it turns out that Im sittingstill in the hospital and
they came back with the diagnosis that was cancer. And it was a very,
very rare cancer; it was a very deadly cancer. Everybody had died from
it in one year.
Ty: Less than 20 people in the world with that kind of cancer.
And its a good thing he did because we saw that everybody that had
this type of tumor, didnt do the chemo or radiation. Never did chemo
and radiation but they did either chemo or radiation and they still died
within like six months. The one person lived like eight years. But other
than that everybody had died right away and they all had the tumor
originally like at 15, 16 years when it came out originally. Now theres
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more cases of it. But back then thats all that was there. So I said Im not
going to do chemo-radiation. Theres no way Im going to do this
because everybody died. So I just went right back, got my hockey
equipment out and just went right back to playing hockey again. And
literally 12 months later to the day about I was in tremendous pain
again. I went and got a CAT scan. And by that time I knew how to read
the CAT scans because not that I knew how to read it so much except
that I knew that in this spot if theres any light you have a tumor there.
Jason Vale: I knew that, right? So I went in the other room after they
did the CAT scan and normally they dont let youthe technicians dont
let youthey dont give you any diagnosis. Theyre not allowed. They
get in trouble. And they dont really let you look at the stuff but they let
me look. I begged them. I said, listen, please. This is my life, my body.
And I want to know before I get a call. Who wants to get a call from the
hospital saying we have news for you please. Hey. So anyway, yeah, it
was there. I saw it. The same thingtumor, the same like the other
time. It was just as big already.
Jason Vale: Within a year it was big, it was huge. It was very
aggressive. It wasnt like just starting out or anything. So
Ty: 19okay.
Jason Vale: 19already had it once. They did the thoracotomy on me.
They took it out. And now it came back. And this time I remember I was
getting pretty sick. I was at home. I was actually laying in my mothers
and fathers bed. They were sleeping on the couch. And I couldnt walk.
I didnt know it but the tumor hadthe tumor and then thatremember
before I said there was a lemon piece. Well, there was a tumor and then
like this trail that went over to my spine and ate into my spine and was
just about to eat my spinal column and I couldnt really walk. I was
having a hard time. Actually I was stepping before I hit the ground. And
my mother said, dont worry. We have an appointment next week. My
father immediately called the hospital and said we have to come in now.
So because of my father I can walk. My mother was listening to what
they said. My father just steam rolled right over her and said we have to
get him to the hospital now. So thats what we did we went to the
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hospital and they said, listen, were going towere not going to do it
now because its like 12:00 at night, whatever. Were going to have a
fresh team in the morning and were going to operate on you in the
morning. So the morning comes and all I remember from that day is that
they laid me down on the bedDr. Collinsgrove [ph], Dr. Beattythis
was Sloan-Kettering and Beth Israel, and Dr. Berglund. He was he
nerve doctor that was going to take over when they got to the cancer
that was near the spine. And Dr. Beatty was the chest doctor. He was
going to take it out from there. Dr. Collinsgrove turned out to be a friend
to this day. Im a good friend of his. He was like an intern at the time or
resident, whatever, you know.
So they told me, okay, count back from ten and by the time you get to
one youre going to be asleep. So I remember saying let me play a trick
on them. Ill never forget this. I said, alright, ten, nine, eight [snores] and
I went like this and the whole team you heard them just starting to get
their stuff together and going on. And in about three seconds later I went
just kidding. And they allto this day they all say that that really
brightened the whole attitude of the operating room because they were
laughing hysterically. Another second I was out cold though. They told
me afterwards that that really gave them a good outlook because they
dont like seeing a 18-year-old kid with a deadly uncurable cancer in his
body. So anyway, they did an amazing operation and so forth and that
time I said to them I didnt know better. I didnt know. And I still dont
know to this day what did what. But I do know that I said to them, listen,
if Im going to do any of this chemo-radiation, everybody died with the
chemo, everybody died with the radiation. And I was strong. I felt I was
strong as an ox even though I had had the cancer the year before. I said
let me do the chemo and the radiation. So they gave me the most
poison you can possibly take in the world without dying and I almost did
die but thats when I stopped doing the chemo.
About five years later they found something in myit might have been
six years they found something in my kidney. And I think the size of it
was 3.5 when they found it originally. I think I was going for a scan every
like year or so, or at first it was every six months and then it was every
year. And then they found something that was 3.5 centimeters in my
kidney and they said it parallels renal cell carcinoma. And I said I dont
want to get a biopsy because if you get a biopsy of it. Youre going to
spread it.
Jason Vale: Right. I mean doctors say that, right. Other people say
that.
Ty: Sure
Ty: Many doctors that weve interviewed have said the same thing.
Jason Vale: Good, yeah, because the needle aspiration when they pull
the needle out it canI don't know. So some doctors believe that, some
doctors actually dont believe that. but so over the years I could never
get someone that would explain why I have to get a biopsy because I
wanted to know for sure if it was cancer. Because at this point is when I
found out about the apricot seeds. It seemed like the tumor kept
shrinking. And every time we went to the doctors we sawthe first time
I went it only went down from 3.5 to 3.2 and I was discouraged. But
kidney cancers are verycan be very slow growing or slow shrinking
also. So I didnt let it discourage me much but every time I went it was
going down a little bit more, 3.5, 2.8, 2.5, 2.0
Jason Vale: Well, Im eating the seeds, yes. Well, at aboutlets see, I
was like 26 or 27, I was arm wrestling and I was starting to become the
New York State champion and I was US champion at one point. And I
was the world champion at one point. But before I was the world
champion the show Extra they called me up and they wanted to do an
interview. And I said, sure, you know, Ill do an interview because they
saw that this guy that was a really good arm wrestler also had cancer
and beat the worst cancer.
Jason Vale: Right. They came over. We did the interview and the next
thing you know they were calling me up saying, listen, Jason we have
hundreds and hundreds of people calling the show. They want to know
your phone number. They want to know how they can get in touch with
you and talk to you and blah, blah, blah. They said is it okay if we give
your phone number out? I said sure. Give my phone number out. So
immediately people started calling me and I put together a business
package. I found a way to get the seeds, which I could only find a place
that had like five or ten pounds at a time. Like the video says a world
without cancer about this whole thing thats going on
Ty: Yeah.
Jason Vale: Right. All the people, the health food stores in the past,
you know, the FDA would break the windows, shut the stores down
because they had these seeds. So to this day a lot of health food stores,
or to that day what Im talking about, when I was 26. Im 46 now. They
didnt carry them so you couldnt find then anywhere. If I did find them
somewhere it was like an underground Chinese health food store in the
city that had like pounds in the back somewhere.
Ty: Right
Jason Vale: So anyway, I got the seeds and I gotI made someI got
a duplicating machine and I put the seedsfor like 50 dollars I sold the
seeds and the DVD. It was probably cheaper than that. And the seeds
are only like 15 dollars. Anyway, I put it together and I got a credit card
account and put up a quick website and I just started selling tons of
these things. And I would tell each person, now listen, I dont want to
beif this isnt true I dont want to be touting something thats not true.
Call me back if you getif theres any success stories. I started getting
calls immediately of people saying, listen, I had a tumor on my skin. It
shrunk down. Or I had a tumor on my arm and it got bigger, it swelled up
and then shrunk down. It started itching. I got every story in the book
and I asked the people, look, I can put your phone on the website. Can I
put your email address on the website because people dont believe
this. So they said okay. So the FTC sends me a letter and they spelled
my name wrong. So I should have stuck with them. But I said listen, I
don't know who youre talking about. Theres nothis name at this
address. So we went back and forth and they sent a letter saying you
got proof of this happening and proof fromshow me the proof.
Jason Vale: They kicked it over to the FDA. And the FDA started
saying that. So at that point they had my right name and right address
and I just had a lawyer, Mr. Dilling, and I don't know if hes a lawyer to
this day but Mr. Dilling was in the middle of this fight 40 years ago when
this whole thing was going on. And he told me, listen, we just have to
change the labeling, which I did, and then the FDA said, no good. And
then we changed it again. The FDA kept saying no good, no good, no
good. So everything we did they kept saying no good. And then I
realized like theres nothing we can do.
Jason Vale: It sure was and thats when they got a temporary
injunction against me and the injunction was not to sellthe whole crux
of it was they said you cant sell seedsat first they were saying you
cant sell them as a cure. You cant sell them according to FDA law,
which only means I cant sell them as a cure. It doesnt mean I cant sell
them, period, because then I cant have them in a grocery store.
Ty: Okay.
Jason Vale: In the end of them adjusting and marking things down and
didacting things from the injunction it read a lot more to say you cant
sell seeds period. And this is what I said, you cant tell me I cant sell
seeds. You cant tell me I cant sell apples because thats the same
thing, isnt it? And they stuck to that and the judgeit was a veryit
was a stacked trial. Actually I hadthen I had a permanent injunction
against me and they said I violated both but I was saying, listen, you got
to prove that I sold them as a cure, which I stopped. I didnt do that
anymore. I told peopleI gave the FDA warning at the bottom and I
also told people it was third party information. And I just said, I just
never told people its going to cure you. I would never say that to people
even if it does. So I had a trial basically. At the initial hearing I left. I
actually was on my way but a bunch of friends who were all dressed up,
and I justIm not kidding. This sounds weird. But a flock of birdslike
as Im headed this way a flock of birds came like right over the cover
going this way. And I was like Im sorry. Im not superstitious like that but
I was just like I am not going. I was like this has got to be sign that Im
not going. Anyway, I left. I went to my other apartment for three months.
They were looking for me and I was talking to the marshalls and finally I
turned myself in. And there was a million dollar bail they gave me.
Jason Vale: Yeah, 883 thousand dollars. I almost won the trial. I
actually was pro se where my lawyer who was telling me, oh, Ill get you
eight years. What do you mean youll get me eight years? This is
contempt of court. Contempt of court is like a six month thing at the
most if youre guilty. I wasnt even guilty and theyre sayingso it was a
trial but there was no statutory maximum and no minimum. So its a
verythey were saying, hey, we got 20 years and you know. And I
said, listen, if Im going to go to prison its going to be Im doing my own
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trial then. So I kicked them out and the judge wouldnt let them
completely get off. The judge made them sit at the table. Ill never forget
the one question I asked that the lawyer jumped up on my side and said
dont ask that question. And I was going to askthe FDA agent was up
at thehe was on the witness stand and I was redirecting. And I was
doing my cross examinationexcuse meand the question was so did
you have like 40 or 50 complaints about me? And the lawyer got up and
said, hold on, wait, time out. Keep talking. He said dont answer that
question. I said, listen, Im asking this question. So I was going to come
down to the end saying did you ever get a complaint against me? So I
made him sit there and I said did you have 30 or 40 claims? He said, no.
Did you have 20 or 30? Did you have 10? Did you have five? Did you
ever have one complaint about me with the seeds about beingabout
me defrauding people? And he had to say no. And I have those
transcripts at the website actually but he had to actually admit no.
So whowhy was I on trial? Whats the point? Theres nobody that was
injured. There has to be an injured party for there to be a trial. This
should be maybe a civil thing. Anyway, it was a big kangaroo court. It
was a big farce. At that point he said right away, youre in contempt. I
want to-you have to show me why you should not be held in contempt
by the end of this day or else they were going to detain me anyway that
day. I was guilty that day and that was it. They held me from that day. I
didnt come out for five years from that day.
Jason Vale: I went to MDC I think. It was not county. It was federal.
Ty: So you did five years and then you got outwas it 2008 that
you got out of prison?
Ty: Well Jason, I want to thank you for sharing your story with us
tonight and I just want to thank you personally. This miniseries,
The Truth about Cancer, would not be happening if it wasnt for
you because you are the first person that I woke upthat woke me
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Jason Vale: Great man! Ty, everybody mentions you. I love it. So
many people that called up my company, they all say Ty, I mean I wish
there was a way I could haveI mean I owe you a lot too because a lot
of peoplethey owe you a lot too because a lot of people read your
book the way you market it and a lot of people read it and they got
better. They got better or people that lived an extra five, ten years,
which all counts.
Ty: Yeah, with quality of life. But hey, were all in the same fight.
Were all here to spread the truth and to spread knowledge about
this, so. Its my honor to interview you tonight man. And well arm
wrestle in a second but off camera.
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Ty: I don't know about you but Ive been very encouraged with
these real life cancer success stories. I cant believe it. The truth
about cancer or the quest for the cures, our seven day miniseries
is over. Its been an exhausting six weeks. I want to thank my
camera man, the camera crew. I want to thank my partners. I want
to thank all of the doctors, the researchers, the scientists, the
cancer patients that were kind enough to let me interview them and
to get their story. I hope youve been encouraged. I know I am. I
know Im ready to get home to see my family. Ive missed them but
its been well worth it to get this information to you. I hope youve
enjoyed the mini-series. Thanks a lot and God bless.
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was because I saw my mother go through cancer when I was like 12-
years-old. So from April until the beginning of May it had spread to my
lymph nodes. So then I had five or six swollen lymph nodes underneath
each armpit. And at that time everything started throbbing and was
painful across my whole entire breast area underneath my armpits. And
everything was throbbing and it was really itchy at the site on my left
breast where the lump was. And then I had lost my job in the beginning
of May of 2009 and then right after that happened I still hadnt finished
my masters degree so I still had a few more weeks to go. So I put
everything on the back burner and then just waited. So in that time by
the end of May I graduated and I just sat down in front of the computer
and I just prayed to God because I knew what was happening. I knew
what was going on. I also knew I just lost my job. I had no insurance. I
didnt have any money and I was facing cancer.
I spoke to people who had had cancer and they had all confirmed that
that was the epidermal growth factor receptor, which is indicative of
HER1 type cancers. You will not have that type of rash unless you first
have cancer in your body. And the rash doesnt go away until the cancer
is out of your body. So it took seven months from the time my rash
appeared, sometime around September of 2009 to October 2009, until
April of that following year, 2010, that rash did not go away. When it
finally went away was when I kind of relaxed on my cancer therapies
and I was feeling better. So I thought, you know, itd be great to start
eating kind of junk food again and made a big mistake. So cancer came
back in six months time because I wasnt cautious with my diet. And you
really have to be. You have to be diligent about what youre eating. You
have to beits just 24/7. The whole entirewhen youre healing cancer
naturally you have to be on it all the time. And it takes a lot of work. Its
not easy.
So throughout this entire trial its been over five years now and its been
difficult but I wrote a book on how to help people heal naturally and to
show people what I did and what you can also do at home. And it
doesnt have to cost a lot of money because I was on welfare. I was on
unemployment and then welfare for quite a long time. No one would
give me a job which actually ended up being a blessing because it took
every ounce of strength I had just to heal. And I dont know how I would
have been able to work through all that. So if you want to check out my
website it is TamaraStJohn.com and then my book is called, Defeat
Cancer Now. And its written very simply to help people heal from
cancer. So thank you so much for listening. God bless.
KC Craichy
Author and Nutritional Expert
Chris Wark http://livingfuel.com/
Cancer Survivor, Author, and
Lecturer
www.chrisbeatcancer.com
Jeffrey M. Smith
Filmmaker, Researcher, Lecturer
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http://geneticroulettemovie.com/
Wendy Wilson
Master Herbalist
www.thepowerherbs.com
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