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What does 'taking,offering value means'?

=> When you don't have enough value, as


a human being you are trying to cultivate more value, and you going to other pe
ople to increase your value. You think that just being with them, getting their
acceptance, approval will increase your value. By this you are not giving them t
he value. 'trying to get something from them' is just that, you are trying to in
crase your value by taking it from them. With a hot girl, someone who has low va
lue wants, needs to get her so he could feel more valuable. That's taking value.
This does not mean that you can't give value to others who, by social standards
or your standards of value, have higher value than you. You can still give them
value, if you focus on that. Also, this doesn't mean that one person is always
going to be giving value and other taking. I don't think so. You can both ( or u
nlimited number of persons) give and get value. For example, communication betwe
en to good friends is win win sort of situation, both of them are giving and rec
eiveng value from that interaction. Same is with wimen, you both can get value f
rom your interactions. And that is the key.** But, you first have to know what y
ou have to provide, what you value from life, and what value can you give to oth
ers. ** How about just by communicating with others you are giving value. Who do
esn't like to have a honest, good, light (or deep) conversation, interaction ->
we are social beings and it's in our nature to like that, because some people fi
nd it hard to talk with others, doesn't meas they don't like communicating at al
l, it's probably because they have some kind of bearier expressing themselves be
ing afraid of judgments of other people, if they were to speak whats on their mi
nd. Being a person who can tolerate and understand that, without judging or labe
ling with good or bad, or even giving some good advice is extremely valuable. Pr
oducing and sharing good emotions is valuable, having fun, focusing on creating
fun is valuable. The fact that you have confidence and that you feel good about
yourself is valuable. Everyone want's to be around those kind of people, with hi
gh value. * The fact that you are focusing on giving value is valuable, where mo
st of the people are trying to get something from others to feel good, you are t
rying to give something, and that's valuable. The fact that you are a man is val
uable to wimen, because you are man - simple as that, just a woman is valuable t
o us because their are women, of course, when you have something in aboundance t
he value of that ,in some way, decreases.
* Know what are your values in life
* Know what how much and what kind of value you can give
** this needs to be internalized. So the next time you want to approach a girl,
you will not have anxiety, or fear or ran out of things to say, because you are
giving.
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--- Taking right action is a mental muscle => it takes time,enerfy,effort to be
build
--- *** We live in society where the idea that bad emotions are valid exquse to
not act is actualy feasable to most people *** => this is what I tought, that be
cause I feel fear I will not do it, even if I know it is the 'right' action, wha
t I want to do. There is not a real obstacle (like if you are somehow physicaly
or mentaly different, that just by it self is a obstacle, some one is 1.2m will
not be able to dunk), it's just in your head, that feeling is stopping you to do
it. Nothing more, just that feeling, and you are resisiting to feel that, whate
ver you think that situation will bring to you, like embarasment, judgments... w
hich are still bs.
- most people think that emotion like "I'm to scrared, to do that" is acceptable
- it doesn't feel good, I'm not gonna do it
- recent socities value the skill of taking right action, regardless of emotions
--- *** you are giving your power away if you think that your emotions,like fear
, are stopping you from acomplishing something, you are saying that the emotion
you are feeling is stronger than you. You are giving your power to your emotions
, but only if you choose so. **

- when doing in this kind of way, taking right action, you are aware of the emot
ions-obstacles but you don't even waste energy on them, they are not so importan
t, but what is important in that moment is that you take the necessary action.
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when Tyler is talking about maximizing engagemtent and minimizing attachement to
outcome => in terms with wimem, I think that it could mean something like this.
You are not interacting with her because you are trying to get value from her (
you just want to get her good responses, to fuck her, so you could feel more val
uable knowing that you got that from her), but you are doing it just because of
who she is. You see her as what, who she is. On one side she just an another org
anism looking and trying to survive cultivating as much value as possible with a
ll the basic survival needs and wants. She is made out of flash, has to shit, pi
ss, wants to fuck, inside her skull there is an organ of 1.5 kg weight which mak
es her who she is. On another side, she is a being of gods creation with a soul
wanting to be expressed and free. Wanting to be loved and cared for, living the
life and trying to enjoy as much as possible from every moment. The way of how y
ou look at it depends on the level on consciousness you are currently in. The so
ul in on it's journey seeking its fulfilment, not because it is lacking somethin
g and not full of something, but for the pure joy of experiencing life. => by th
is, you are fully engaging her, having clear understanding of basic nature of pe
ople, but you are seeking to get deeper in the being of that person, for the pur
e joy of doing it, for the journey, experience and knowledge of doing it, not be
cause of value seeking or something like that. You are not affraid of loosing he
r (in any way), because you know what she does is best thing for her being, but
you still love her (them, it can be any person). You are offering that to them a
nd you know your value. You are able to surpass the superficial way of looking a
nd interacting with people not being considered with all the social conditioning
and programming. You are being honest, and your actions and wants are honest, y
ou are behaving in a way that you think is best for both of you (or everyone in
interaction), not only for your own selfish wants. You can almost see the soul (
like a ball of some light in them), this way you are seeking for that deeper, tr
ue self to come out.
How it this? Is this real? Well, can you feel it? Can you feel the difference wh
en looking at people like they are animals, and when you are looking to see the
soul in them. That difference is real, we can feel it, so it is affecting your =
> it means that there is something, which we can not explain, but we can try. Ri
chard R. Dawkins did an amazing work mapping the consciousness, which we can use
in our discussion. Was Jesus an animal? If he was, or wasn't, what was the diff
erence, what separated him from the rest of organisms and other people. I am sur
e that he had bacis survival needs like any other organism, he had to get energy
in form of food and water, he had to get rid of wastes from body, to shit and p
iss. Ok, we can say that the body of Jesus is similar to any other body of other
p people with basic surviaval needs. So what sepparated him. It was one organ, h
is brain. But all humans have a brain? Yes, but it's the organ by itself that se
parated him, it was the content of his brain, his mind. His mind was riddeled, f
ull of thoughs that let him be what we know about him. There are also other grea
t avatars like him: Buddha, Chrisna (there is one more). Ok, so the main differe
nce between normal people and the great ones was the content of the brains, thei
r thoughs-their consciousness, and the difference between people and other livin
g organisms is just that, the amount of consciousness they have, and the level o
f it. By this, everyone could become like the great ones, because those are just
thoughts, and nothing is stopping you from having some kind of thought, it is t
he only thing that you have full control off. The more you fill your brain with
thoughts Jesus had, the closer you are to him, to God, if you will, and that is

the explanation of it, that is how we get connected with god, I would rather say
Jesus, because I don't think he was the God, I would say he was the product of
God, just like anything else is, enoyone else, he just managed to get to that le
vel of being, which does not mean the rest of people who are not like him are de
stined to burn in hell or some bullshit, it just means that-what it is, just lik
e 2+2=4, we can say that if you think that is right you will burn in hell, but i
t still is what it is (this statement means exactly this, it is (2+2), what it (
=), is (4)). But, Jesus died early in life, 35 years, how did he get to that amo
unt so fast? Did God just said " you are going to be the enlightmen motherfucker
and you are going to start a new religion and get killed while doing it, but do
n't worry you don't have to do shit, i'll handle most of the things with my supe
r magic powers". From my knowledge of Bible, the God brought Jesus to earth in o
rder to help humanity, but why would God do that, what was 'wrong' with humanity
? Knowing that the good or bad is completely subjective, that it doesn't exist o
utside of our heads. We are prone to give Gods human characteristics so we could
explain the things that they do, forgeting that actions like that are completel
y inacurate, because in order to know how gods think, we had to be him. This lea
ds to all kind of misunderstandings and misconscepions on which the rationalizat
ions and even more bullshit is piled over the centuries and mileniums. I all tha
t pile of shit, one who wants to find the truth which Jesus was talking about, h
as to be very aware and carefull and consciouss and to have the right map to tha
t core. In the end, the journey ends where it has began, in ourselves. The whole
process in happening inside us. "The kingdom of God is within you". Of the topi
c here. Assuming, that the God is above good, and evil, why did Jesus do the thi
ngs that he did? What was the motiv behind it, if we know that there is no good
or bad? What was the purpouse of his doing? Maybe because of the act of creating
, of the pure experience? One more thing, Jesus managed to do this without anyon
e else teaching him (books, mentors...) he did it himself. Which means that all
the knowledge is within you, or it is there in the universe and you are able to
access it? How does this work? The first thing that came to my mind was to go lo
ok on the internet. But Jesus did not have internet, he couldn't find out how to
get connected with god from internet. So how did he do it? Can this be learned
and teached to others? Well, he tried to do that, it hasn't workder so well? He
was able to think, and he did it forhimself, he wasn't looking at roman,antic go
ds. When God was talking to Jesus, was it in the form of thoughts, by which Jesu
s could only hear God in his mind, by which we can assume that the God was actua
ly the product of his thoughts, or God was expressing throught his thoughts, whi
ch is the same. By this, every thought that you have is the thought of god, be i
t 'good' or 'bad', but they varry. The problem can not be solved from the paradi
ng from which it was created => we can't understand, solve problems like this fr
om this level of knowledge, we have to araise. Does it make any difference, if y
ou are enlightened, Jesus, or any other organism, if we have the power to give t
hat meaning to anything, where does that meaning stop, or does it ever stop?
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I think I got it. There is the socialy conditioned reality that most people live
in. Those who live in it are unconscious of it's effect, and of the consequence
s of that. Reality is based uppon belifes, so the socialy conditioned reality is
based on socialy conditioned beliefs. This can give, or take you freedom. If yo
u let yourself to get sucked in it, you'll be fucked. You still have the freedom
to chose you thoughts, but It'll be hard to get out. If you are aware of this,
the next step is to create a new reality based uppon the beliefs that you choose
, that are yours and that serve you the most. In this reality you can choose you
r values, not the values of the mainstream reality. When you reality is stronger
than the person you are interacting with (assuming they living in a mainstream
reality, or better having their own reality) they will get sucked in your realit
y. When this happens they also take your values. And who is living the best to y
our own values? Only you. This way you are the lord in your world, the question
is who else is going to live in your reality? Who else will want to come and liv

e on your island? Think about this.

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