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AKBLUE said:
11-20-201304:25 PM

Russian threaded AK47 barrel ID

I am not a student of Russian AK47 or AKM's.
I have three barrels that are AK47 pattern threaded chamber end. Can
someone ID the "type" of barrel these fall under., i.e., T1, T2 or T3 and
or how one can tell the dierence if the pictures are not sucient to ID.
Thanks.

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You need to measure the length of the GB journals. I am conrming this,

however Im pretty sure that the GB journal is longer on the t1 and t2
barrels, and shorter on the t3.
Last edited by evolixsurf; 11-20-2013 at 04:51 PM.
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Richard W. said:
11-20-201305:14 PM
These are Soviet barrel assemblies that I disassembled for study.
The stripped barrels are basically the same but the GB journals can be
used to ID. The T1 parts are at the top , T2 middle, and T3 at bottom.

(RSBs)

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(FSBs) - As I understand it, the top two FSBs are transitional models ,
suitable for either T1 or T2s. There is an earlier T1 FSB with dierent pin
spacing.

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Tantal said:
11-20-201305:35 PM
Both of you guys are lucky! BTW, thanks for sharing the images, Richard!
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Richard W thanks for the pics., can you be more specic on the
measurements or dierences in the GB journals. I can measure them but
not sure what vertical lengths distinguish the barrel types etc. Any other
dierences?

Richard W. said:
11-21-201307:03 PM
I don't have the measurements, but the T1 GB journal is pretty obvious
from how long it is.
T2 and T3 are similarly sized, but the front sling eyelet on the T2 is on
the lower handguard retainer, while the T3's is the loop that ts over the
barrel and sits behind the GB. It's not evident in my photo, but he loop
leaves a distinctive signature in the wear of the nish.

AKBLUE said:
11-21-201308:20 PM
Richard., OK., I get it. Pretty much standard AK47 pattern journal on the
T2 & T3. That works., I can compare to a Bulgy milled barrel etc. Thank
you.
Last edited by AKBLUE; 11-21-2013 at 08:23 PM.

Brick said:
12-01-201301:04 PM
Richard, I think you made a mistake in your pictures. I think the middle
barrel is actually the T-3 barrel and your bottom barrel is your T-2
barrel. The paint on the middle barrel seems to match the T-3 parts
better. Also (and this is how I tell an early T-1 and T-2 barrels from T-3
barrels) is the size of the llet from the journal that tightens against the
receiver and extends to the RSB journal. If they left a lot of meat on the
llet, its the early style. T-3s removed more of the llet.
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Dammit- You're right, Brick. I mistakenly mismatched the barrels for the
photos.
Nos. 2 and 3 should be switched. Sorry about that, guys.

AKBLUE said:
12-01-201303:56 PM
so the typ3 has the more abrupt forward shoulder in front of the swell
forward of the chamber threads? I'm still not sure what type the barrels
are I posted now. Oh well.

Brick said:
12-01-201304:21 PM
All three of your barrels are T-3 type barrels.
Brick
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AKBLUE said:
12-01-201304:47 PM
Originally Posted by Brick
All three of your barrels are T-3 type barrels.
Brick
Thank you for the conrmation.

evolixsurf said:
12-18-201308:18 PM
Ok, I was able to get measurements on type 1 and type 2 barrel
assemblies. I was surprised to note that the front sight base on the t1

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All measurements below are the component lengths, of the journal

section of the part only.
Type 1 FSB length is 31.9mm
Type 2 FSB length is 29.9mm
Type 1 gas block length is 44.9mm
Type 2 gas block length is 36.9mm
The barrel journals are slightly larger typically.
If anyone has a t3 they can measure, please do and report back!
Thanks!

AKBLUE said:
12-19-201310:16 AM
I do not use metric calipers for measuring. Only for general ID'ing parts.,
rivets, trunnion journals etc.,
Type 3.,
FSB 1.170" +/- rear edge of threads to rear of journal (journal tapers
down signicantly., .125 short of the thread rear)
GB 1.540" +/-

Richard W. said:
12-19-201310:37 AM
I don't have all the FSB variants, but they are shown in this photo from
Chamberlin.
At the back is the earliest T1 variant.
Middle is the T1/T2 transitional variant. (Slight dierence in the pin
spacing.)

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