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Is Jesus God? Did Jesus ever claim to be God?
Beyond Blind Faith
Who is Jesus? Is Jesus God? See what Jesus said about himself, his equality
with God, and what exactly Jesus did to prove it.

By Paul E. Little

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It is impossible for us to know conclusively whether God exists and what he is

like unless he takes the initiative and reveals himself.
[THIS MEANS ACCORDING TO THE AUTHOR WHO SO EVER HE /SHE MAY BE THERE IS
NO RATIONAL, AND PYLOSOPHICAL PROOF FOR THE EXISTENCE OF DEITY. EVEN
SAINT THOMAS WASTED HIS TIME TO PROVE THE SUPREME BEING]

We must scan the horizon of history to see if there is any clue to God's
revelation. There is one clear clue. In an obscure village in Palestine, 2,000
years ago, a Child was born in a stable. Today the entire world is still
celebrating the birth of Jesus, and for good reason.
[ SPEAKING RATIONALLY THE CLAIM THAT THIS WAS A CLUE REQUIRES A
PROOF. NOW IF THIS CLUE IS RATIONAL OR PHILOSOPHICAL THEN IT IS
UNACCEPTABLE ACCORDING TO THE LEARNED AUTHOR AND IF HE CLAIMS
THAT THE SUPREME BEING [GOD/DEITY] DID TAKE AN INITIATIVE SO WHAT IS
THE PROOF THAT HE DID TAKE]
Is Jesus God? Did Jesus ever claim to be God?
[IESOUS/IESUS NEVAR CLAIMED TO BE GOD/SUPREME BEING/DEITY/ A
HPOSTASIS IN THE GODHEAD OF GOD. ALL SUCH CLAIMS ARE BASED ON
VAGUE TEXTS OF SOME BOOKS OF ALSOMST TWO THOUSAND YEARS OLD
NEW TESTAMENT].

We're told that "the common people heard him gladly." And, "He taught as
One who had authority, and not as their teachers of the Law."1
[ MERE JUST AN UTHORITY DOES NOT PROVE DIVINITY. IF GOD/SUPREME
BEING GAVE A HUMAN BEING AN AUTHORITY THE HUMAN BEING DOES NOT
BECOME THE SUPREME BEING/GOD ].
Is Jesus God? Did Jesus ever claim to be God?It soon became apparent,
however, that he was making shocking and startling statements about
himself. He began to identify himself as far more than a remarkable teacher
or prophet. He began to say clearly that he was God. He made his identity the
focal point of his teaching. The all-important question he put to those who
followed him was, "Who do you say I am?" When Peter answered and said,

"You are the Christ, the Son of the living God,"2 Jesus was not shocked, nor
did he rebuke Peter. On the contrary, he commended him!
[IESUS IS CERTAINLY NOT GOD/SUPREME BEING/HYPOSTASIS IN GODHEAD OF
GOD. HE NEVER MAKE ANY STATMENT AS ALLEGED BY THE LEARNED
AUTHOR. IF HE CAIMED TO BE FARMORE REMARKABE THEN A NORMAL
PROPHET THIS DOES NOT IMPLY GODHEAD OR GODHOOD OR DIVINITY OR
GOD SHIP OR INCARTATED GOD OR INCARNATION OF GOD WHAT SO EVER.
IESUS NEVER MADE SHOCKING STATMENTS THAT HE IS GOD/DEITY.
DISTORTED INTERPRETATIONS OF HIS STATEMENTS MAY BE SHOCKING TO
THOSE WHO BELIEVE THAT THESE INTERPRETATIONS ARE TRUE. SON OF
GOD/DEITY AND GOD/DEITY ARE TWO DIFFERENT THINGS IF THEY ARE NOT
STUDIED ACCORDING TO ATHANASIAN CREED. IESOUS WAS NOT SHOCKED
WHEN HE HEAR THE BELIEF THAT HE WAS THE SON OF LIVING DEITY YET HE
WOULD HAVE BEEN SHOCKED IF HE HAD HEARD THAT HE IS DEITY OR GOD.
SO THE ARGUMENT IS INCORRECT. ANY HOW THERE IS SILENT ABOUT THE
QUESTION, AND THE LEARED AUTHOR WANT TO MISUSED THE SILENCE AS A
SPEECH. ].

Jesus frequently referred to "My Father," and his hearers got the full impact of
his words. We are told, "The Jews tried all the harder to kill him; not only was
he breaking the Sabbath, but he was even calling God his own Father, making
himself equal with God."3
[ NO HIS HEARER DID MADE A FALSE ACCUSATION ON IESUS . SINCE THEY
DID NOT ACCEPT HIM. EVEN THEY KNOW THAT SONS OF GOD /SUPREME
BEING ARE MENTIONED IN HEBRAIC BIBLE AND THEY WERE NOT TRINITARIAN
THEOLOGIANS WHO COULD INTERPRET HIS WORDS ACCORDING TO
ATHANASIAN TRINITY. JEWS OF ANY CENTURY BEFORE THE ATHANASIAN
CONTROVERSY DID NOT KNOW THE DOGMA OF TRINITY ,TRIUNE GOD AND
TRIUNITY. SO IF THE HAD ANY SENSE OF THE WORD SON OF GOD , IT WOULD
NOT BE IN THE MEANING OF A HYPOSTASIS ISSUED IN THE PER SE
SUBSISTENT ESSENCE OF GOD/DEITY BY AN OTHER HYPOSTASIS WHICH IS
UNISSUED. IF SO THEN THEY ONLY GOT THE MEANING THAT IESOUS CALLED
THE SUPREME BEING YAHVAH AS HIS FATHER AND NOT A HYPOSTASIS IN THE
ESSENCE OF THE SUPREME BEING. IF SO THEN TRINITARIAN MUST CONSIDER
FATHER OF IESOUS AS A BEING AND NOT AS A HYPOSTASIS IN THE BEING.
THUS THE ARGUMENT OF THE LEARNED WRITER GOES AGAINST HIMSELF.
ALSO WHAT KIND OF EQUALITY DID THE JEWS HAD IN THEIR MIND. ARE ANY
ONE OF THE HYPOSTASIS IN THE PERSE SUBSISTENT ESSENCE OF SUPREME
BEING AND THE TRIUNE SUPREME BEING EQUAL???? IF THEY ARE THEN IN
WHAT SENSE OR MEANING. IT DOES APPEAR THAT THE IMPACT OF THE WORD
OF IESOUS ON THE AUDIANCES DOES NOT IMPLY ANY EQUALITY. THERE IS NO

SUCH IMPACT IN THE REPORTED SPEECH OF IESOUS. SO THE ACCUSATION OF

EQUALITY EITHER IS A FALSE ALLEGATION DELIBERATELY MADE OR THEY
COMPLETELY MIUNDERSTOOD HIM. IT MUST BE NOTED THAT IESOUS WAS
SOMETIME MISUNDERSTOOD BY HIS AUDIANCE REGARDLESS OF THE FACT
THEY WERE HIS DISCIPLE OR HIS OPPONENTS OR ELSE. ].

On another occasion he said, "I and My Father are One." Immediately the
religious authorities wanted to stone him. He asked them which of his good
works caused them to want to kill him. They replied, "We are not stoning you
for any of these but for blasphemy, because you, a mere man, claim to be
God."4
[ ONCE AGAIN THE OPPONENTS OF IESUS DID MAKE A FALSE ACCUSATION ON
IESUS. IT IS VERY STRANGE TO SEE THAT THE LEARNED AUTHOR HAVE
BELIEVED THAT THE HEARERS WERE INFALLABLE IN UNDERSTANDING. IESUS
DID NOT MEAN WHAT THE ACCUSED HIM OF.
LET IT BE ASKED IN WHAT SENSE IESOUS AND HIS FATHER ONE?? IN THE
SENSE "WORD AND SON ARE ONE? OR IN THE SENSE IESOUS/IESOUS AND
WORD/LOGOS ARE ONE? IN THE SENSE LOGOS AND GODHEAD ARE ONE? OR
IN THE SENSE TRIUNE GOD OR GOD THE TRINITY IS ONE.
IT DOES APPEAR THAT HIS AUDIANCE ONCE AGAIN MISUNDERSTOOD HIM OR
THEY MADE A FALSE ACCUSATION ON HIS BY DISTORTING HIS TRUE
MEANINGS.]
Is Jesus God? Look at His life.

As Jesus was healing a paralyzed man, Jesus said to him, "Son, your sins are
forgiven you." The religious leaders immediately reacted. "Why does this
fellow talk like that? He's blaspheming! Who can forgive sins but God alone?"
[ ONCE AGAIN A FALSE ACCUSATION OF HIS ENEMIES UPON HIM. HE ONLY
INFORMED THAT THE TRANSGRESSIONS OF THE PARALYZED PERSON ARE
FORGIVEN. THERE IS NO THING WHICH SUGGEST THAT IESOUS/IESUS IS
CLAIMING THAT HE HIMSELF FORGAVE THE TRANSGRESSION OF THE STATED
ABOVE MALE PERSON. IESOUS ONLY SAID THAT THE SINS/TRANSGRESSION
OF THE PERSON WERE FORGIVEN, IT IS JUST AN INFORMATION. HE DID NOT
SAY AT THIS PLACE THAT I FORGAVE HIS SIN/TRANSGRESSION. IF HE HAD
SAID SO EVEN THEN THIS IS NOT A CONVINCING ARGUMENT FOR THE BELIEF
THAT IESOUS IS DEITY/GOD.]

When Jesus was on trial for his life, the high priest put the question to him
directly: "Are you the Christ, the Son of the Blessed One?"
[ THERE IS NO THING IN HEBRAIC BIBLE WHICH SAYS THAT SON OF GOD IS
GOD OR A HYPOSTASIS IN THE GODHEAD OF GOD OR SON OF SUPREME
BEING. THERE ARE SEVERAL SONS OF GOD ACCORDING TO HEBRAIC TANAKH.
ONLY THE JURY DID NOT ACCEPTED THAT IESOUS IS SON OF GOD IN THE
HEBRAIC BIBLICAL SENSE IF THE NEW TESTAMENT IS CORRECT IN REPORTING
THE EVENT EXACTLY].

"I am," said Jesus. "And you will see the Son of Man sitting at the right hand
of the Mighty One and coming on the clouds of heaven."
[IF THE REPORT OF NEW TESTAMENT IS EXACT THEN IESUS ONLY AFFIRMED
THAT HE IS SON OF GOD IN THE BIBLICAL SENSE OF HEBREW BIBLE. THERE
IS NOTHING WHICH SUGGESTS THAT HE WAS SAYINF IN ATHANASIUS SENSE
OR IN THE SENSE OF TRINITARIANS. ]
The high priest rendered the verdict. "Why do we need any more witnesses?"
he asked. "You have heard his blasphemy."5
[ GOD OF IESUS IS GREAT. THERE IS NO BLASPHEMY ACCORDING TO HEBRAIC
BIBLE, SINCE MULTITUDE OF SONS OF GOD ARE MENTIONED IN HEBRAIC
BIBLE. ACTUALLY THE HIGH PRIEST ACCUSED ON THE SENTENCE : SON OF
MAN SITTING ON THE RIGHT HAND OF GOD" . THERE IS NOTHING WHICH
SAYS THAT ONE WHO SITS OR WILL SIT ON THE RIGHT HAND OF GOD IS GOD
OR ONE WHO SITS OR STANDS ON THE RIGHT HAND OF GOD IS GOD
HIMSELF. ALSO TRINITARIANS ARE IN TROUBLE TO CLEARIFY WHETHER RIGHT
HAND OF GOD IS THE FORTH HYPOSTASIS IN THE GOD HEAD OR ONE OF THE
PREVIOUSLY KNOW HYPOSTASIS OR THE VERY GODHEAD IT SELF . THIS IS AN
OTHER CASE OF MISUNDERSTANDING IESUS.
. EITHER THE HIGH PRIEST DID NOT BELIEVE THAT GOD/DEITY HATH HANDS
[ATLEAST ONE] OR HE BELIEVED THAT NO SON OF MAN CAN SIT ON THE
RIGHT HAND OF DEITY /GOD. HE IS CALLING THIS AS A BLASPHAMY. ].
So close was Jesus' connection with God that he equated a person's attitude
to himself with the person's attitude toward God. Thus, to know him was to
know God.6 To see him was to see God.7 To believe in him was to believe in
God.8 To receive him was to receive God.9 To hate him was to hate God.10
And to honor him was to honor God.11
[ THIS DOES NOT PROVE DIVINITY OF IESOUS/IESUS SINCE CLOSENESS DOES
NOT MEAN COMUNICABLITY TO GODHEAD. FURTHER IF A PERSON ATTITUDE
TO IESUS IS EQUAL TO PERSON'S ATTITUDE TO GOD DOES NOT PROVE THAT

IESUS IS GOD SINCE ATTITUE IT SELF IS A MADE THING AND NOT UNMADE,
AND A MADE THING WHETEHR IT IS RELATED TO ANOTHER MADE THING OR
GOD IS EQUAL IN BEING A MADE THING. TO KNOW HIM IESUS IS TO KNOW
GOD DOES NOT IMPLY IESUS IS GOD OR SUPREME BEING OR A HYPOSTASIS IN
GODHEAD OF GOD OR ELSE]
Is Jesus God? - possible explanations
As we face the claims of Christ, there are only four possibilities. He was
either a liar, mentally ill, a legend, or the Truth.
[ NO ONE FACES THESE CLAIMS ASCRIBED TO ISESUS. THESE ARE JUST
ATHANASIAN AND TRINITARIAN INTERPRETATIONS ASCRIBED TO IESUS. SO
IESUS CANNT BE ACCUSED OF THESE CLAIMS. BUT THERE ARE PERSONS IN
THE HISTORY OF RELIGIONS WHO CLAIMED DIVINITY LIKE BAHA OF PERSIA ,
KRISHNA OF INDIA ETC. THE SAME QUESTION CAN BE ASKED FOR THEM.
SIMILARLY THE SAME BELIEF IS HELD FOR RAJNESH. STILL THERE ARE JUST
FOUR POSSIBILITIES FOR THEM.]
The question is, was he telling the truth?
[ IESUS DID NOT TELL WHAT IS ASCRIBED TO HIM BY THE LEARNED AUTHOR.
HOWEVER WHAT CAN BE SAID FOR KRISHNA OR BAHA OR RAJNESH ETC].
Maybe Jesus lied when he said he was God. Perhaps he knew he was not God,
but deliberately deceived his hearers. But there is a problem with this
reasoning.
Even those who deny his deity affirm that he was a great moral teacher.
Jesus could hardly be a great moral teacher if, on the most crucial point of his
teaching -- his identity -- he was a deliberate liar.
[ IESUS DID NOT CLAIMED TO BE GOD OR A HYPOSTASIS IN GODHEAD OF
GOD OR SUPREME BEING ETCC. BUT WHAT CAN BE SAID FOR OTHER
PERSONS LIKE KRISHNA , BAHA ETC. WERE THEY NOT MORAL TEACHERS OR
WERE IMMORAL. IF IESUS HAD CLAIMED TO BE GOD THEN HE WOULD
IMMEDIATLEY CEASED TO BE A MORAL TEACHER. THOSE WHO DENY THAT
IESOUS IS GOD/DEITY YET BELIEVE IN THE FACT IESOUS/IESUS WAS A GREAT
MORAL TEACHER ALSO DENY ALL SUCH ATHANASIAN INTERPRETATIONS OF
SENTENCES AND WORDS SPOKEN BY IESOUS/IESUS. ONE MAY HOWEVER ASK
THIS LEARNED AUTHER THE FOLLOWING QUESTION.
DID IESOUS CEASE TO BE A GREAT MORAL TEACHER IF HE HAS DECLARED
HIM AS THE GOD THE TRINITY OR FATHER OR HOLY GHOST OR THE DIVINE
NATURE/ESSENCE OR TRIUNE GOD OR ELSE. IF NO THEN THIS IS NOT
ACCORDING TO THE ATHANASIAN STANDARD SINCE ATHANASIANS AND
ATHANASIAN CREED CANNOT BELIEVE IN SUCH DOGMAS. IF YES THEN THEY

CANNOT ARGUE WITH THIS SORT OF SELF REASONED ARGUMENT. IF

IESSOUS HAD CLAIMED THAT HE IS SUPREME BEING OR GODHEAD OF GOD
OR A HYPOSTASIS IN THE PER SE SUBSISTENT ESSENCE OF GOD OR AN
INCARNATION OF A HYPOSTASIS IN THE ESSENCE OF GOD OR A
MENIFESTATION OF IT THEN HE WOULD IMMEDIATLELY CEASED TO BE NOT
ONLY A GREAT MORAL TEACHER BUT ALSO A MORAL TEACHER. ATHANASIANS
DO BELIEVE THAT IF HYPOSTATIC UNION CEASES TO EXIST THE HUMAN
NATURE OF ASSUMED BY THE SECOND HYPOSTASIS SHALL IMMSDIATLEY BE
UPGRADED TO A HUMAN PERSON. SO FAR SO GOOD. BUT THEN THEY
PROVIDE A ROUTE TO SAY IF IESOUS HAD CLAIMED TO BE GOD OR A
HYPOSTASIS IN GOD ETC. HE WOULD HAVE CREASED TO BE A MORAL
TEACHER IMMEDIATLEY.
]

Another possibility is that Jesus was sincere but self-deceived. We have a

name for a person today who thinks he is God. Mentally disabled. But as we
look at the life of Christ, we see no evidence of the abnormality and
imbalance we find in a mentally ill person. Rather, we find the greatest
composure under pressure.
[ ONCE AGAIN IT IS REPEATED THE CLAIM THAT IESUS DID NOT CLAIME TO BE
GOD ETC. SINCE THIS INCORRECT ARGUMENT IS BASED ON THE INCORRECT
SUPPOSITION THAT HE DID CLAIM TO. BUT WHAT ABOUT RAM OR KRISHNA OR
BAHA ETC. FOR MORE DETAIL SEE
.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_people_claimed_to_be_Jesus ,
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_people_who_have_been_considered_deiti
es
,http://www.monitor.co.ug/artsculture/Reviews/PEOPLE-WHO-CLAIMED-TO-BEGOD/691232-2227784-8ipxpw/index.html,
http://www.indianweekender.co.nz/Pages/ArticleDetails/51/1421/Comment/Ho
w-science-discovered-the-historical-Krishna
http://www.vanamaliashram.org/Dwarka.html
etc.
Bahaullah CLAIMED TO BE God:
Baha'u'llah states that He is both human and Divine (speaking from the
viewpoint of the Manifestation of God's Names and Attributes). He also states
that "there is no way God (referring to the Unknowable Essence) could
incarnate His Essence and reveal it to men." In fact, He states that the whole

purpose of The Prophets coming to us in an infinite succession of progressive

revelations is because God is permanently beyond our comprehension,
except through the Revelations of these incredibly kind, gentle and
astonishing Beings.
http://www.isbahaullahgod.com/
ONE MAY SEE HOW MANY OF THEM WERE PROVED TO BE IMMORAL OR
MENTALLY SICK.
ONE MAY NOT BE MENTALLY SICK YET HE/SHE MAY CLAIM TO BE GOD/DEITY
FOR THE REASON OF HIS BELIEVES. ONE MAY BELIEVE THAT HE IS AN
INCARNATION OF GOD OR AN INCARNATED GOD OR GOD INCARNATE SINCE
HE BELIEVES THAT GOD DOES INCARNATE. SO HE NEITHER BE A DELIBERATE
LIAR NOR BE A MENTALLY SICK PERSON. JUST A BELIEVER OR A PREACHER
OF THE DOGMA OF INCARNATION. WE KNOW SOME ONE AS IESOUS WHO IS A
HUMAN BEING AND AND A HUMAN PERSON. TO TRINITARIANS THE BODY AND
SOUL CONSTITUTE A HUMAN NATURE. THEN WHO IS IESOUS. THE INFINTE
ETERNAL HYPOSTASIS IN GODHEAT OF TRIUNE GOD NAMED AS LOGOS AND
RENAMED AS SON OR THE HUMAN NATURE ASSUMED BY THE SAID
HYPOSTASES???? IF IESOUS/IESUS DID CLAIM TO BE GOD (WE FOR SAKE OF
ARGUMENT DO NOT ASK IN WHAT MEANING OF THE WORD GOD) THEN WHO
WAS THAT IESOUS/IESUS THAT CLAIMED SO.?? A) WAS THAT IESOUS THE
LOGOS THE SECOND HYPOSTASIS IN THE PERSE SUBSISTENT ESSENCE IN
GOD . B) THE HUMAN NATURE ASSUMED BY THE HYPOSTASIS .C) THE UNION
OF THE SECOND HYPOSTRASIS AND THE HUMAN NATURE (HYPOSTATIC UNION
). WHO WAS THE MORAL TEACHER. LET IT BE FUTHER CLEARIFIED " ARE THE
HUMAN NATURE AND THE DIVINE NATURE ONE???? ALSO ARE THE DIVINE
NATURE AND THE DIVINE HYPOSTASIS ONE???? BEFORE SETTLING THESE
PROBLEMS ONE CANNOT ARGUE THAT IESUS CLAIMED TO BE GOD. WHAT
WAS SEEN BY HIS DISCIPLES AND EVEN HIS OPPNENT WAS ASSUMED TO BE A
HUMAN BEING AND A HUMAN PERSON AND NOT ASSUMED TO BE A HUMAN
NATURE ASSUMED BY A HYPOSTASIS IN GODHEAD IN GOD]

A third alternative is that his enthusiastic followers put words into his mouth
he would have been shocked to hear. Were he to return, he would
immediately repudiate them.
[FIRST OF ALL IESUS DID NOT CLAIM IT . THEY ARE JUST ATHANASIAN
INTERPRETATIONS . THIS POSSIBILITY IS CLEAVELY NEGLECTED BY THE
AUTHOR. IT IS VERY WISE THING TO DETECT AND TO POINT AT THIS
NEGLECTED POSSIBILITY. SO IF THE FOLLOWERS DID NOT PUT SUCH WORDS

IN THE MOUTH OF IESOUS , ENTHUSIASTIC ATHANASIANS INTERPRETED HIS

WORDS . SO IT IS UNNECESSARY TO DISCUSS ANY FURTHER.
WE MAY SEE IT AND EXAMINE IT LATTER IF IT IS REQUIORED ].
No, modern archeology verifies that four biographies of Christ were written
within the lifetime of people who saw, heard and followed Jesus. These gospel
accounts contained specific facts and descriptions confirmed by those who
were eyewitnesses of Jesus. The early writing of the Gospels by Matthew,
Mark, Luke and John, is why they gained such circulation and impact, unlike
the fictional Gnostic gospels which appeared centuries later.
[ THIS IS A VERY PROBLEMATIC ISSUE. IT NEEDS A LOT OF STUDIES IN HIGHER
CRITICISM. A COMMON MAN OR WOMAN IS GENERALLY NOT A STUDENT OF
HIGHER CRITICISM. SO THIS CLAIM IS NOT AS ACCURATE AS IT IS ASSUMED
TO BE BY THE LEARNED AUTHOR. WE FOLLOW THE VIEW OF BIBLICAL
SCHOLARS WHO BELIEVE THAT THE FIRST GOSPEL WAS THE ORAL
EVENGELION , THE EVENGELION TRADITION, THE FIRST GOSPELS WERE
GOSPEL OF MERCUS AND Q-GOSPEL , FROM Q AND MERCUS MATTAI WAS
MADE . FROM THEM LUCA WAS MADE.
THE NON SYNOPTIC YOHANNON IS A DIFFERENT WORLD. ALSO THEY DID
NOT GAIN IMMEDIATE CIRCULATION JUST AFTER THEIR PRODUCTION. NONE
OF THEM INCLUDE ALL THINGS IN THEM. AT MANY PLACES GOSPELS DIFFER.
POSATIVE AND NEGATIVE AGRREMENTS OF MERCUS ND MATTAI AGAINS
MERCUS ARE WELL KNOWN TO MODERN SCHOLARS. EVEN A SCHOLAR LIKE
R.E BROWN ACCEPTS IT. IT IS OFTEN TREATED AS DIFFERENCES OF
WITNESSES PF AN ACCIDENT. IT IS SAID THAT SUCH DIFFERENCES DOES NOT
MAKE ANY DOUBT IN THE OCCURANCE OF THE ACCIDENT. SO FAR SO GOOD.
BUT IN THIS CASE WORDS AND STATMENTS OF IESOUS/IESUS INTERPRETED
AS CLAIMS OF BEING GOD/DEITY CANNOT BE ACCEPTED
1)Estimated Range of Dating Of Gospel Of Thomas: 50-140 A.C
http://www.earlychristianwritings.com/thomas.html
2) Estimated Range of Dating of Egerton Gospel : 70-120 A.D.
http://www.earlychristianwritings.com/egerton.html
3) Estimated Range of Dating of Gospel of the Hebrews : 80-150 A.D.
http://www.earlychristianwritings.com/gospelhebrews.html
4) Estimated Range of Dating of Gospel of the Nazoreans : 100-160 A.D.
http://www.earlychristianwritings.com/gospelnazoreans.html

5)Estimated Range of Dating of Gospel of the Ebionites

: 100-160 A.D.
http://www.earlychristianwritings.com/gospelebionites.html
Even if one opt for the late date model for each Non New
Testamental Gospels even then they are not much late. The basic
thing which the Church Rejected them is not their late emergence
but Church did not accept these apocryphal traditions as
reliable ..].

Jesus was not a liar, or mentally disabled, or manufactured apart from

historical reality. The only other alternative is that Jesus was being
consciously truthful when he said he was God.
[ IESUS DID NOT CLAIMED TO BE GOD OR A HYPOSTASIS IN GODHEAD OF
GOD OR SUPREME BEING ETC. THESE ARE JUST ATHANASIAN
INTERPRETATIONS OF CERTAIN SENTENCES OF NT]
Is Jesus God? What is the proof?

From one point of view, however, claims don't mean much. Talk is cheap.
Anyone can make claims. There have been others who have claimed to be
God. I could claim to be God, and you could claim to be God, but the question
all of us must answer is, "What credentials do we bring to substantiate our
claim?" In my case it wouldn't take you five minutes to disprove my claim. It
probably wouldn't take too much more to dispose of yours.
[ IT LOT DEPENDS ON THE BELIEF OF A BELIEVER. IF SOME ONE BELIEVES
THAT SOME HUMAN BEING IS GOD OR GOD INCARNATE OR INCARNATED GOD
OR INCARNATION O GOD OR MENIFESTED GOD OR GOD MANIFESTED OR
MENIFESTATION OF GOD OR JUST THE HUMAN NATURE ASSUMED BY GOD OR
ASSUMED BY ANY HYPOSTASIS OF GOD THERE IS NO THING TO STOP HIM
AND HE CAN INTERPRET ANY EVIDENCE AGAINST HIS CLAIM]
But when it comes to Jesus of Nazareth, it's not so simple. He had the
credentials to back up his claim. He said, "Even though you do not believe
me, believe the evidence of the miracles, that you may learn and understand
that the Father is in Me, and I am in the Father."12
[ FIRST OF ALL IESUS NEVER CLAIMED TO BE GOD OR A HYPOSTASIS IN

GODHEAD OF GOD ETC. THESE ARE JUST ATHANASIAN AND TRINITARIAN

INTERPRETATIONS OF SOME SENTENCES AND VERSES OF NT. THERE IT IS
STOPPED . NO MIRACLE CAN PROVE THAT IESUS WAS GOD RAITHER THEY
PROVE HE WAS NOT.]
The life of Jesus - His unique moral character

Is Jesus God? Did Jesus ever claim to be God?His moral character coincided
with his claims. The quality of his life was such that he was able to challenge
his very enemies with the question, "Can any of you prove me guilty of
sin?"13 He was met by silence, even though he addressed those who would
have liked to point out a flaw in his character.
[ ANSWWRS TO THE QUESTION IN SAME ORDER: 1] IESUS WAS NOT GOD .2]
HE NEVER CLAIMED TO BE GOD.3] AS BOTH PRILIMINARIES ARE INCOREECT
THIS IS A COMPOUND FALLACY.3] IF SOME ONE IS NOT GUILTY OF SIN HE IS
STILL NOT GOD. GOD IS OMNIPOTENT HE CAN SAVE SOME HUMAN BEINGS
FROM SIN OR EVEN THIS IS A PARADOX TO THE LEARNED AUTHER LIKE "CAN
GOD MAKE A CLOSE CHAMPER SUCH THAT EVEN HE CANNOT SEE IN IT".
FLAWLESS CHARACTER OF ANY HUMAN BEING WHO SO EVER HE MAY BE
DOES NOT PROVE HIS /HER DIVINITY. IT IS JUST THE CASE OMNIPOTENT GOD
MAKES A PERSON FLAWLESS.]
We read of Jesus being tempted by Satan, but we never hear of a confession
of sin on his part. He never asked for forgiveness, though he told his followers
to do so.
[ ONE MAY WONDER HOW MANY TIME ONE HAS TO SAY THAT IESUS
DID NOT CLAIM TO BE GOD OR A HYPOSTASIS IN GODHEAD OF GOD
ETC. THESE ARE JUST ATHANASIAN AND TRINITARIAN
INTERPRETATIONS OF SOME VERSES OF NT. WHERE IT IS WRITTEN IN
BIBLE THAT ONE WHO NEVER ASK FOR FORGIVENESS IS GOD. WHERE
IT IS WRITTEN THAT OMNIPOTENT GOD CANNOT MAKE SOME HUMAN
BEINGS WHO CANNOT COMMIT TRANSGRESSIONS,SINS,ETC. ETC]
This lack of any sense of moral failure on Jesus' part is astonishing in view of
the fact that it is completely contrary to the experience of the saints and
mystics throughout the ages. The closer men and women draw to God, the
more overwhelmed they are with their own failure, corruption, and
shortcomings. The closer one is to a shining light, the more he realizes his
need of a bath. This is true also, in the moral realm, for ordinary mortals.,
[Once more it is to be stated that Iesus did not claimed to be God/Deity ,a
Hypostasis in the Godhead /Divinity Of God /Deity etc. It is just the

Athanasian interpretations of the verses of NT]

It is also striking that John, Paul, and Peter, all of whom were trained from
earliest childhood to believe in the universality of sin, all spoke of the
sinlessness of Christ: "He committed no sin, and no deceit was found in his
mouth."14
[BUT SINLESSNESS DOES NOT IMPLY DIVINITY. THERE IS NO IMPLICATION]

Even Pilate, who sentenced Jesus to death, asked, "What evil has he done?"
After listening to the crowd, Pilate concluded, "I am innocent of this man's
blood; see to it yourselves." The crowd relentlessly demanded Jesus be
crucified (for blasphemy, claiming to be God). The Roman centurion who
assisted in the crucifixion of Christ said, "Surely he was the Son of God."15
[IT MAY BE NOTED THAT DISCIPLES OF IESUS /IESOUS MIGHT HAVE BELIEVED
HIM SINLESS OR TRANSGRASIONLESS PUT PILAT [PONTIOUS PILITUS] DID NOT
SPOKE IN THIS SENSE. HE PROBEBLY MEANT THAT THE ACCUSATIONS WERE
UNPROVED, THAT IS HE IS NOT GUILTY.
SOME CULT BELIEVE THAT EVEN PILATE WAS A SECRET DISCIPLE OF IESUS
,YET THIS IS NOT SECONDED FROM NT.]
The life of Jesus - He cured the sick

Jesus constantly demonstrated his power and compassion. He made the lame
to walk, the blind to see, and healed those with diseases. For example, a man
who had been blind from birth. Everyone knew him as the familiar beggar
who sat outside the temple. Yet Jesus healed him. As the authorities
questioned the beggar about Jesus, he said, "One thing I do know. I was blind
but now I see!" he declared. He was astounded that these religious
authorities didn't recognize this Healer as the Son of God. "Nobody has ever
heard of opening the eyes of a man born blind," he said.16 To him the
evidence was obvious.
[BUT NONE OF THSESE ACT WERE BY POWER OF IESUS. DID IESUS DID THESE
ACTS HIMSELF. NO THSES ACTS WERE OF SUPREME BEING. SUCH MIRACLES
CANNOT PROVE IESUS AS GOD/DEITY/SUPREME BEING ETC.]
The life of Jesus - His ability to control nature

Jesus also demonstrated a supernatural power over nature itself. He

commanded a raging storm of high wind and waves on the Sea of Galilee to
be calm. Those in the boat were awestruck, asking, "Who is this? Even the
wind and waves obey him!"17 He turned water into wine, at a wedding. He
fed a massive crowd of 5,000 people, starting with five loaves of bread and
two fish. He gave a grieving widow back her only son by raising him from the
dead.

Lazarus, a friend of Jesus' died and was buried in a tomb for four days
already. Yet Jesus said, "Lazarus, come forth!" and dramatically raised him
from the dead, witnessed by many. It is most significant that his enemies did
not deny this miracle. Rather, they decided to kill him. "If we let him go on
like this," they said, "everyone will believe in him."18
[NONE OF THESE SUPER NATURAL,PARANORMAL,HYPERNORMAL ACTS CAN
PROVE DIVINITY. CAN GOD NOT PROVIDE A HUMAN BEING POWER OVER
NATURE. DOES POWER OVER NATURE IMPLIES OMNIPOENCE? IF WIND
OBEYED HIM AT ONE TIME THEN DOES IT MEAN THAT HE HAD POWER OVER
WATER AT THE SAME TIME. IF HE HAD POWER OVER WATERS AT ANOTHER
TIME DOES IT MEAN HE HAD POWER OVE WIND AT THAT TIME? NO THING CAN
BE PROVED?
IF HE HAD POWER OVER BOTH WIND AND WATER SIMULTANIOUSLY AT ONE
TIME DOES IT MEAN HE HAD POWER OVER THESE TWO FOR ALL TIMES? IS
THIS NOT A WEAK INDUCTION?
I THING WHO SO EVER WROTE THIS WORK DELIBERATELY COMMITED SUCH
FALLECIES , SINCE EVERY ONE DOES KNOW THAT IT IS WEAK CASE OF
INDUCTION]

Is Jesus God, as he claimed?

Is Jesus God? Did Jesus ever claim to be God?Jesus' supreme evidence of

deity was his own resurrection from the dead. Five times in the course of his
life, Jesus clearly predicted in what specific way he would be killed and
affirmed that three days later he would rise from the dead.
[THERE ARE MANY OBJECTIONS AND QUESTIONS. UNLESS THEY ARE
ANSWERED ALL THESE WORDS ARE USELESS. IF IESUS DID CLAIM TO BE
GOD/DEITY THEN IN WHAT MEANING.

1] THE SUPREME BEING. 2] TRIUNE GOD. 3] GOD THE TRINITY.4] GODHEAD.

5] A HYPOSTASIS IN THE GODHEAD OF GOD. IF A HYPOSTASIS IN THE
GODHEAD OF GOD THEN WHICH ONE OF THE FOLLOWING HYPOSTASIS:= 1ST
HYPOSTASIS. 2ND HYPOSTASIS. 3RD HYPOSTASIS.
ALSO A GOD IN ATHANASIAN MEANING OR SABELLIAN MEANING.
In Christianity, Sabellianism in the Eastern church or Patripassianism in the
Western church (also known as modalism, modalistic monarchianism, or
modal monarchism) is the nontrinitarian or anti-trinitarian belief that the
Heavenly Father, Resurrected Son, and Holy Spirit are three different modes
or aspects of one monadic God, as perceived by the believer, rather than
three distinct persons within the Godheadthat there are no real or
substantial differences among the three, such that there is no substantial
identity for the Spirit or the Son.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sabellianism
ALSO RESURRECTION IS NOT A PROOF FOR THE DIVINITY OF IESUS BUT A
DISPROOF OF THE DIVINITY. IF THERE IS NO DEATH THERE IS NO
RESURRECTION. IS SOME ONE DIES THAT ONE CANNOT BE GOD/DEITY. ONE
HAVE TO PROVE GOD CAN DIE BEFORE GOD CAN RESURRECT.
IS THIS WHAT THE LEARNED AUTHOR WANT TO SAY.
IF IESOUS/IESUS DIED BUT GOD/DEITY DID NOT DIE THEN IESUS IS NOT
GOD/DEITY AND GOD/DEITY IS NOT IESOUS/IESUS. IF IESUS PREDICTED HIS
DEATH AND HIS RESUURECTION , HE PROVED THAT HE IS NOT GOD/DEITY. IF
HE SAID THOUSAND OF TIME EACH TIME HE DISPROVED THE CLAIM OF HIS
DEITY (SEE ALSO DEITY OF CHRIST)].

Surely this was the great test. It was a claim that was easy to verify. It would
either happen or not. It would either confirm his stated identity or destroy it.
And significant for you and me, Jesus' rising from the dead would verify or
make laughable statements such as these:
[ BUT THESE WORDS HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH THE CLAIN OF BEING
GOD/DEITY]
"I am the way, the truth, and the life; no one comes to the Father except
through me."19 "I am the light of the world. He who follows me will not live in
darkness, but will have the light of life."20 For those who believe in him, "I
give them eternal life..."21
[ THESE WORDS CANNOT PROVE THAT IESUS IS GOD/DEITY. LET IT BE ASKED

CAN ANY ONE COME TO GOD YET BY DENYING PULUS AND HIS EPISTLES IN
NT.? IF ATHANASIANS REPLY IN NEGATION THEN DOES IT NOT MEAN MEAN
EVEN PULUS IS A WAY TO GOD? A SORT OF LIGHT. BUT DOES IT PROVES THAT
PULUS IS GOD? NO . THIS MEANS THAT IF SOME ONE CANNOT APPROACH TO
GOD INDEPENDEND OF SOME ONE IT IS ONE THING , AND THAT SOME ONE IS
GOD IS ANOTHER THING. THIS IS WHAT THEY TRY TO CONFUSE. ]

So by his own words, he offers this proof, ""The Son of Man is going to be
delivered into the hands of men, and they will kill him. And when he is killed,
after three days he will rise."22
[ THIS IS A DISPROVE OF THE BELIEF THAT IESOUS IS GOD/DIVINTY. IESUS
SAID HE IS A SON OF MAN . GOD IS NOT A SON OF MAN IN ANY SENSE. NOW
IF IESOUS/IESUS IS SON OF MAN THEN HE IS NOT GOD/DEITY SINCE
GOD/DEITY IS NOT SON OF MAN. IF IESOUS/IESUS SAID THAT HE IS SON OF
GOD YET HE ALSO SAID HE IS SON OF MAN, THIS MEANS THAT HE ONLY
MEANT THAT HE IS JUST A SON OF GOD IN THE HEBRAIC BIBLICAL SENSE.,
AND NOT IN ATHANASIAN SENSE].
What this would mean
Talk is cheap. Anyone can make claims. But when it comes to Jesus of
Nazareth... He had the credentials to back up His claim.
[ IESOUS DID NOT MAKE SUCH CLAIMS. THESE CLAIMS ARE JUST ATHANASIAN
AND TRINITARIAN CLAIMS WHICH THEY ASCRIBE IT TOWARDS IESOUS BY
MISINTERPRETING HIS WORDS AND STATEMENTS].

If Christ rose, we know with certainty that God exists, what God is like, and
how we may know him in personal experience. The universe takes on
meaning and purpose, and it is possible to experience the living God in this
life.
[ GOD/DEITY IS INDEPENDEND OF RESURRECTION OF IESUS . SO ALL THESE
WORDS BECOME INCOORECT].

On the other hand, if Christ did not rise from the dead, Christianity has no
objective validity or reality. The martyrs who went singing to the lions, and
contemporary missionaries who have given their lives while taking this
message to others, have been poor deluded fools.
[ BUT NEITHER CHRISTIANITY NOR CHRIST TEACH THAT HE IS GOD/DEITY.

DOES THE LEARNED AUTHOR MEAN CHRISTIANITY WAS OBJECTIVELESS

WHEN IESUS WAS ALIVE ?.]

Paul, the great apostle, wrote, "If Christ has not been raised, our preaching is
useless and so is your faith."23 Paul rested his whole case on the bodily
resurrection of Christ.
[ PAUL WAS ONLY SAYING FOR PREACHING OF RESURRECTION. PAUL CANNOT
MEAN THAT ALL THE PREACHING OF IESUS DURING HIS MINISTRY WAS IN
VAIN. IS THAT WHAT THE LEARNED AUTHOR WANT TO INTERPRET THE
WORDS OF PULUS OR PAUL?]
Did Jesus prove he is God?
[ NO IESUS PROVED HE IS NOT GOD/DEITY].

Let's look at the evidence for Jesus' resurrection.

Given all the miracles he had performed, Jesus easily could have avoided the
cross, but he chose not to.

Before his arrest, Jesus said, "I lay down my life that I may take it up again.
No one takes it from me, but I lay it down of my own accord...and I have
authority to take it up again."24
[ THESE WORDS PROVES IESUS WAS NOT GOD/DEITY SINCE GOD/DEITY
CANNOT DIE, EVEN THE OMNIPOTENT GOD CANNOT KILL HIMSELF. ONE WHO
CAN LAYDOWN HIS LIFE CANNOT BE GOD/DEITY]

During his arrest, Jesus' friend Peter tried to defend him. But Jesus said to
Peter, "Put your sword back into its place...Do you think that I cannot appeal
to my Father, and he will at once send me more than twelve legions of
angels?"25 He had that kind of power in heaven and on earth. Jesus went
willingly to his death.
[ THESE WORDS DISPROVE THE CLAIM THAT IESOUS WAS GOD. HE DID NOT
SAY I MYSELF CAN SAVE ME FROM DEATH. HE IS APPEALING TO FATHER.
ALSO IT IS REQUIRED TO PROVE THAT FATHER IS NOT THE SUPREM BEING

BUT A HYPOSTASIS IN THE ESSENCE OD SUPREME BEING. DOES GOD NEED

LEGIONS OF ANGELS OR NOT??]
Jesus' crucifixion and burial.

Jesus' death was by public execution on a cross, a common form of torture

and death, used by the Roman government for many centuries. The
accusation against Jesus was for blasphemy (for claiming to be God). Jesus
said it was to pay for our sin.

Jesus was lashed with a multi-cord whip having metal or bone fragmented
ends. A mock crown of long thorns was beaten into his skull. They forced him
to walk to an execution hill outside of Jerusalem. They put him on a wooden
cross, nailing his wrists and feet to it. He hung there, eventually dying. A
sword was thrust into his side to confirm his death.

The body of Jesus was taken from the cross, wrapped in mummy-like linens
covered with gummy-wet spices. His body was placed in a solid rock tomb,
where a very large boulder was rolled down to it, to secure the entrance.

Everyone knew that Jesus said he would rise from the dead in three days. So
they stationed a guard of trained Roman soldiers at the tomb. They also
affixed an official Roman seal to the outside of the tomb declaring it
government property.
[NO ONE SUSPECTED RESURRECTION IF NT IS TRUE. ]
Three days later, the tomb was empty.

Is Jesus God? Did Jesus ever claim to be God?In spite of all this, three days
later the boulder, formerly sealing the tomb, was found up a slope, some
distance away from the tomb. The body was gone. Only the grave linens were
found in the tomb, caved in, empty of the body.

It is important to note that both critics and followers of Jesus agree that the
tomb was empty and the body missing.

The earliest explanation circulated was that the disciples stole the body while
the guards were sleeping. This makes little sense. This was an entire guard of
highly trained Roman soldiers, and falling asleep on duty was punishable by
death.

Further, each of the disciples (individually and separately from each other)
were tortured and martyred for proclaiming that Jesus was alive, risen from
the dead. Men and women will die for what they believe to be true, though it
may actually be false. They do not, however, die for what they know is a lie. If
ever a man tells the truth, it is on his deathbed.

Maybe the authorities moved the body? Yet they crucified Jesus to stop
people from believing in him. This also is a weak possibility. If they had
Christ's body, they could have paraded it through the streets of Jerusalem. In
one fell swoop they would have successfully smothered Christianity in its
cradle. That they did not do this bears eloquent testimony to the fact that
they did not have the body.

Another theory is that the women, distraught and overcome by grief, missed
their way in the dimness of the morning and went to the wrong tomb. In their
distress they imagined Christ had risen because the tomb was empty. But
again, if the women went to the wrong tomb, why did the high priests and
other enemies of the faith not go to the right tomb and produce the body?
Men and women will die for what they believe to be true, though it may
actually be false. They do not, however, die for what they know is a lie.

One other possibility is what some call "the swoon theory." In this view, Christ
did not actually die. He was mistakenly reported to be dead, but had swooned
from exhaustion, pain, and loss of blood, and in the coolness of the tomb, he
revived. (One would have to overlook the fact that they put a spear in his side
to medically confirm his death.)

But let us assume for a moment that Christ was buried alive and swooned. Is
it possible to believe that he would have survived three days in a damp tomb
without food or water or attention of any kind? Would he have had the

strength to extricate himself from the grave clothes, push the heavy stone
away from the mouth of the grave, overcome the Roman guards, and walk
miles on feet that had been pierced with spikes? It too makes little sense.

However, it wasn't the empty tomb that convinced Jesus' followers of his
deity.
Not just the empty tomb.

That alone did not convince them that Jesus actually rose from the dead, was
alive, and was God. What convinced them were the number of times that
Jesus showed up, in person, in the flesh, and ate with them, and talked with
them.

Luke, one of the gospel writers, says of Jesus, "he presented himself to them
and gave many convincing proofs that he was alive. He appeared to them
over a period of forty days and spoke about the kingdom of God."26
[ THERE ARE TO MANY CONSPIRACY THEORIES. THOSE WHO DO NOT BELIEVE
IN THE TRADITIONS OF GOSPETS IN NT CANNOT BE CONVINCED BY
TRADITIONS REPORTED IN TEW TESTIMENTAL GOSPELS. BUT IF REPORTS OF
GOSPELS ARE TRUE THEN WHAT GOED IT MEAN??
IT FOES MEAN IESUS/IESOUS IS NOT GOD/DEITY, IESOUS/IESUS IS NOT A
HYPOSTASIS IN THE GODHEAD OF GOD ETC. SINCE IESUS /IESOUS CANNOT
RESURRECT IF IESOUS/IESUS DID NOT DIE. BUT IF IESUS/IESOUS DID DIE
THEN HE CANNOT BE GOD/ OR A HYPOSTASIS IN THE GODHEAD/DIVINITY OF
GOD/DEITY, SINCE GOD/DEITY CANNOT DIE. OF THERE ARE SOME
HYPOSTASES IN THE PER SE SUBSISTENT ESSENCE OF GOD/DEITY THEN
NONE OOF THEM CAN DIE . EVEN TRINITARIANS DO KNOW THAT FATHER
[ THE FIRST HYPOSTASIS] AND HOLY GHOST[ THE LAST HYPOSTASIS] CANNOT
DIE. THEN WHY THE SECOND HYPOSTASIS CAN DIE.
SO IF IESOUS DID DIE THEN IESOUS IS NOT GOD /DEITY ,NOT A HYPOSTASIS
IN THE PERSE SUBSISTENT ESSENCE[GODHEAD/DIVINITY] OF GOD/DEITY
,WHAT SO EVER. SIMIARLY IT IS WELL KNOWN THAT NOT EVEN THE TRIUNE
GOD AND GOD THE TRINITY CAN DIE. SO WHY TO MAKE AN EXCEPTUIN FOR
THE SECOND HYPOSTASIS IN THE GODHEAD OF GOD. GONE ARE THE DAYS
WHEN GENERAL PUBLIC WAS IGNORENT OF THE FACT THAT ATHANASIAN USE
THE WORD GOD IN PRIMARY MEANING WHICH IS THE MEANING OF SUPREME
BEING, THERE ARE SEVERAL MEANINGS OF THE WORD GOD/DEITY. SIMILARLY

GONE ARE THE DAYS WHEN PEOPLE WERE EASILY CONFUSED BY IESOUS ,
LOGOS THE SON. THEY NOW DO ASK " ARE IESOUS AND LOGOS ONE? ARE
SON AND LOGOS ONE? ARE GOD THE SON AND SON OF GOD ONE?? ETC.
BEFORE CLEARIFYING THESE PROBLEMS ANY ARGUMENT FOR THE BELIEF "
IESOUSIESUS IS GOD/DEITY IS INCORRECT AND UNSOUND.
FOR SAKE OF ARGUMENT LET IT BE SUPPOSE IESUS/IESOUS IS GOD/DEITY.
THEN WHAT IS THE MEANING OF GOD IN THE SENTENCE " IESOUS/IESUS IS
GOD/DEITY. IT CAN MEAN ANY ONE OF THE FOLLOWING:=
1] SUPREME BEING
2] A HYPOSTASIS IN THE PERSE SUBSISTENT ESSENCE OF SUPREME BEING.
3] TRIUNE GOD OR GOD THE TRINITY
4] PERSE SUBSISTENT ESSENCE OF THE SUPREME BEING.
BEFORE ARGUING FOR THE BELIEF "IESOUS IS GOD" FOR SAKE OF GOD
PLEASE CLEARIFY WHICH ONE OF THE MEANING OF THE WORD GOD/DEITY
YOU ARE TAKING. IF YOU DO NOT CLEARIFY YOURSELF RESPECTED LEARNED
AUTHOR THEN WE SHALL ASK YOU SINCE GONE ARE THE DAYS WHEN THE
WORD GOD/DEITY WAS MISUSED BY ATHANASIANS AND ATHANASIAN CREED.
ALSO ANSWER BEFORE SAYING ANY THING :"IS IESOUS LOGOS OR A HUMAN
NATURE OF LOGOS, WHICH IS ASSUMED BY THE LOGOS? ALSO CAN LOOS DIE
RIGHT IN GODHEAD?]

Is Jesus God?

All four of the gospel writers give accounts of Jesus physically showing up
after his burial, obviously alive. One time that Jesus joined the disciples,
Thomas, was not there. When they told him about it, Thomas simply wouldn't
believe it. He flatly stated, "Unless I see the nail marks in his hands and put
my finger where the nails were, and put my hand into his side, I will not
believe it."

One week later, Jesus came to them again, with Thomas now present. Jesus
said to Thomas, "Put your finger here; see my hands. Reach out your hand
and put it into my side. Stop doubting and believe." Thomas replied, "My Lord
and my God!"

[ THIS IS A MISINTERPRETATION OF WORDS OF THOMAS. THE REPORTED

WORDS OF THOMAS DOES NOT CORRESPONDS TO IESUS/IESOUS BUT WHEN
ONE SEES A MIRACLE WHICH IS GREAT ,HE/SHE REMEMBERS GOD/DEITY AND
SAY SAYS TO HIM MY GOD/DEITY.MY LORD. NO WHERE GOSPEL SAYS
DOUBTING THOMAS SAID THESE WORDS FOR IESOUS/IESOUS. ONE AGAIN IT
IS JUST AN ATHANASIAN INTERPRETATAION AND NO THING ELSE].
Jesus told him "Because you have seen me, you have believed; blessed are
those who have not seen and yet have believed."27
[ BELIEVED IN WHAT?? BELIEVED IN IESUS/IESOUS IS A CHRIST OR BELIEVED
IN IESOUS THAT HE IS GOD/DEITY. IF THE LATTER THEN IN WHAT MEANING . IN
THE MEANING IESOUS IS THE SUPREME BEING? ELIEVED IN IESOUS/IESUS IN
THE MEANING IESOUS WAS A HYPOSTASIS IN THE PERSE SUBSISTENT
ESSENCE IN THE SUPREME BEING].
Your opportunity

Why did Jesus go through all of that? It was so we could know God now, in
this life, by believing in him.

Jesus offers us a far more meaningful life, by being in a relationship with him.
Jesus said, "I came that they might have life, and have it abundantly."28

You can begin an intimate relationship with him right now. You can begin to
personally know God in this life on earth, and after death into eternity. Here is
God's promise to us:

"For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes
in him should not perish but have eternal life."29
[ SON OF GOD, WHAT THE WORD GOD MEAN IN TRINITARIAN TERMONOLOGY?
DOS IT MEAN GOD THE TRINITY, OR GOD THE FATHER [ THE FIRST
HYPOSTASIS IN THE PERSE SUBSISTENT ESSENCE OF THE TRIUNE GOD. FIRST
DECIDE IT THEN ARGUE. IF AN ATHANASIAN DOES NOT BELIEVE IESOUS IS
THE SON OF THE TRIUNE GOD WHAT DOES IT PORVES? ONLY ONE THING HE
IS MISUSING THE WORD GOD/DEITY ETC. SINCE HE BELIVES IESOUS IS GOD
BUT AT THE SAME TIME BELIEVES IESOUS IS NOT TRIUNE GOD THEN WHAT
DOES IT IMPLY? THE WORDS LIKE GOD,THOES,DEITY ETC. ARE USED IN
DIFFERENT MEANINGS. SOME TIME FOR THE SUPREME BEING , SOME TIME

FOR A HYPOSTASIS IN THE SUPREME BEING, SOME TIME FOR THE PERSE
SUBSISTENT ESSENCE [GODHEAD/DIVINITY] IN THE SUPREME BEING.? ONLY
THE DO NOT STAKE IT AT THE FIRST PLACE. ]
Jesus took our sin on himself, on the cross. He chose to receive punishment
for our sin, so that our sin would no longer be a barrier between us and him.
Because he fully paid for your sin, he offers you complete forgiveness and a
relationship with him.
[IT IS AN OTHER PROOF THAT IESOUS/IESUS IS NOT GOD/DEITY. THE
QUESTION IS ? CAN GOD/DEITY BE PUNISHED? IS IT RATIONAL TO BELIEVE
THAT GOD/DEITY CAN BE PUNISHED. SUCH A BELIEVE IS NOT ONLY NOT
SUPPORTED BY HEBRAIC BIBLE , THERE IS NOT EXPLICIT VERSE IN NT. IT
CROSSES ALL RATIONALITY. IT IS CERTAIN THAT GOD/DEITY CANNOT BE
PUNISHED. NOW IF IWSOUS/IESUS WAS PUNISHED IT IS A PROOF THAT
IESOUS /IESUS WAS CERTAINLY NOT GOD, SINCE IESUS WAS PUNISHED AND
GOD CANNOT BE PUNISHED. SIMILARLY IF IESOUS /IESUS TOOK THE SINS AND
TRANSGRESSIONS OF OTHERS THEN HE HE CANNT BE GOD/DEITY SINCE
GOD/DEITY CANNOT TAKE SINS AND TRANGRESSIONS. AT THIS POINT A
TRINATARIAN IS LIKELY TO SAY THAT GOD IS OMNIPOTENT HE CAN DO WHAT
HE LIKES. OK . SO FAR SO GOD. THEN THIS MEANS GOD/DEITY CAN DO SINS
AND TRANSGRESSIONS AND EVIL ACTS LIKE HOMOSEXUALITY, INJUSTICE ETC.
DO NOT STOP JUST GO ON. CAN GOD DO FORNICATION? CAN GOD BECOME A
WOMAN BY ASSUMING A FEMALE HUMAN NATURE. IF GOD CANNOT DO IT
THEN WHAT ABOUT ANY ONE OF THE ALLEGED HYPOSTASIS IN THE ESSENCE
IN GOD. CAN IT DO IT? IF NOT THEN YOU HAVE GOT THE ANSWER OF THIS
INVALID ARGUMENT] .

Here is how you can begin that relationship.

Jesus said, "Behold, I stand at the door [of your heart] and knock; if anyone
hears my voice and opens the door, I will come into him."30

Right now you can invite Jesus Christ into your life. The words are not
important. What matters is that you respond to him, in light of what he has
done for you, and is now offering you. You could say to him something like,
"Jesus, I believe in you. Thank you for dying on the cross for my sins. I ask
you to forgive me and to come into my life right now. I want to know you and
follow you. Thank you for coming into my life and giving me a relationship

with you, right now. Thank you."

[ TO BELIEVE IESOUS IS GOD IS TO DISBELIEVE IN BIBLE AND NT. SO IF SOME
ONE WANTS TO BELIEVE IN IESOUS HE /SHE MUST NOT ASK AN ATHANASIAN
SECT TO ANSWER , SINCE THEY PRESENT MANY THINGS INCORRECTLY].

If you asked Jesus into your life, we would like to help you grow to know him
better. In whatever way we can help you, please feel free to click on one of
the links below.

I just asked Jesus into my life (some helpful information follows)...

I may want to ask Jesus into my life, please explain this more fully...

I have a question or comment...

Adapted from Know Why You Believe by Paul E. Little, published by Victor
Books, copyright (c) 1988, SP Publications, Inc., Wheaton, IL 60187. Used by
permission.

(1) Matthew 7:29 (2) Matthew 16:15-16 (3) John 5:18 (4) John 10:33 (5) Mark
14:61-64 (6) John 8:19; 14:7 (7) 12:45; 14:9 (8) 12:44; 14:1 (9) Mark 9:37
(10) John 15:23 (11) John 5:23 (12) John 10:38 (13) John 8:46 (14) 1 Peter
2:22 (15) Matthew 27:54 (16) John 9:25, 32 (17) Mark 4:41 (18) John 11:48
(19) John 14:6 (20) John 8:12 (21) John 10:28 (22) Mark 9:31 (23) 1
Corinthians 15:14 (24) John 10:18 (25) Matthew 26:52,53 (26) Acts 1:3 (27)
John 20:24-29 (28) John 10:10 (29) John 3:16 (30) Revelation 3:20
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IT IS OFTEN ARGUED THAT"

Men and women will die for what they believe to be

true, though it may actually be false. They do not,
however, die for what they know is a lie.
Human Nature is not simple but it is very complex. Human Nature
can neither be Bisected nor Disected. It cannot always be
destribed by general laws. It is logically possible that a person
whether male or female may die a thing he/she believes as false.

Although it may be a rare case but not a Logically Impossible

case. Some time a person does know that he is on the wrong side
yet he sacrifises his life . There are several motives and reasons
for such activities. Many athiests do not believe in any God yet
shed their lives for athiesm . Similarly an atheist may appear to be
a follower of a religion which he does believe to be false yet for
other reasons may die for it, for example he may have some great
benifits. In some cases a person knowing that his chid has really
done a wrong act dies in order to save him , some time a soldier
dies for his country knowing that his country is on the wrong side.
The point is that there are some special cases or exceptional
cases to this law.
One may not be mistaken that we do want to deny this law as
false or invalid but only want to point at the fact that there are
either some special cases or exceptional cases which are not
included in this law stated above.

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