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Plaintiff,
vs.
Miami, Florida
December 2, 2010
2:04 p.m. to 2:41 p.m.
RALPH MERRILL,
Defendant.
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REPORTED BY:
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I N D E X
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Direct
Cross
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Red.
THE COURT:
MR. SCHWARTZ:
Miller.
THE WITNESS:
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Thank you.
BY MR. SCHWARTZ:
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Q.
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Laboratory.
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Atlanta, Georgia.
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Lab?
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Yes, it is.
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determine if that gun was, in fact, the one that fired those
components.
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example, when you take a knife and you cut a chunk of cheese,
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you'll look and you'll see little scratches in the cheese where
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For
Each
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mark.
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Q.
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Yes.
follow.
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the field?
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Yes, I am.
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determination.
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No.
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A.
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Department.
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in the field?
I was
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That's correct.
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courses?
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Yes, I have.
Yes, I have.
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or produced?
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Yes, it does.
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ammunition?
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Q.
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Thousands.
Yes, I have.
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Yes, I have.
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Hundreds of times.
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court previously?
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Yes, I have.
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MR. SCHWARTZ:
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examination.
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MR. BIEBER:
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THE COURT:
No objection.
He'll be accepted as an expert in the
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field.
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BY MR. SCHWARTZ:
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Q.
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down smaller.
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ammunition?
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case.
discharged.
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And how can you take a cartridge and determine its origin?
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head.
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formed.
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caliber.
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was manufactured.
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Sometimes it
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laboratory that covers ammunition from all over the world, and
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standards.
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cartridge.
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On
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Is
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else has put that bullet into that cartridge case as a reloaded
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round?
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open and take a look at that core and compare that with --
loaded with.
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Yes.
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Yes, I was.
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And can you move the microphone just a little bit closer to
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you.
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Yes.
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And
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Then I took a sample and cut it open and cut the bullet
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manufacturer.
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Yes, I was.
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Now, you mentioned head stamps and the ammunition that you
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Numbers?
Symbols?
What did
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and head stamp and looked at the numbers right side up, you had
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two numbers at the top and two or three numbers at the bottom.
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One number tells me the country of origin, and the other number
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43.8-A.
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And if I use the term "501 over 72," does that make sense
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Yes, it does.
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was manufactured?
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China in 1972.
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Yes.
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Yes, it does.
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Now, are you familiar with the head stamp 31 over 69?
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Yes, I am.
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and 43.13-A.
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43.13-A?
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Sorry.
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Yes.
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that correct?
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Yes, I am.
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been manufactured?
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43.8-A?
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Yes.
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Yes.
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48.13-A.
Is
Were those
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Yes, I did.
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that exhibit, does that include ammunition with the head stamp
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31 over 65?
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Yes, it does.
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Yes.
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Okay.
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61 over 64?
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Yes, I did.
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55.18-A.
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Yes.
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Republic of China?
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Yes, it was.
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And, Mr. Miller, are you familiar with the head stamp
61 over 66?
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Yes, I am.
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And you reviewed ammunition in this case that had that head
stamp?
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Yes, I did.
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52.13-A?
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Yes.
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81 over 69?
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46.4-A.
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Yes.
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manufactured?
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and seal on it with the date and case number, other information
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Yes, I was.
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And, Mr. Miller, are you familiar with -- were you asked to
Is that
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correct?
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That's correct.
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Yes, I did.
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ammunition.
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Yes.
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55.6-A:
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Yes.
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Is that correct?
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monitor.
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manufactured?
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In Hungary in 1971.
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That's correct.
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74?
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Yes, it does.
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Yes, I am.
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Yes.
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Yes, it does.
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Is that correct?
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Yes.
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56.14-A?
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Yes.
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manufactured?
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Yes, I did.
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Yes, it is.
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Okay.
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What year?
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1958.
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And was there any ammunition that you analyzed that had
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Yes.
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Yes.
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Did
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Now, did you review ammunition that had the head stamp
31 over 66?
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Yes.
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56.18-A?
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56.18-A.
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Yes.
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And did you find any ammunition -- were you asked to review
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any ammunition that included the head stamp 661 over 67?
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Yes.
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54.7-A?
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Yes.
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What year?
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1967.
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Okay.
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head stamp?
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Yes, I did.
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Yes.
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manufactured?
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1964.
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71 over 69.
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7.62 by 54.
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Yes, it is.
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manufactured?
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In Hungary.
MR. SCHWARTZ:
No further questions.
THE COURT:
Cross-examination.
MR. BIEBER:
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CROSS-EXAMINATION
BY MR. BIEBER:
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Good afternoon.
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No, sir.
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Right?
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Yes.
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Yes.
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Yes, I did.
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That's correct.
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it to.
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Right?
Right?
Right?
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designed to fire.
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Yes.
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I do not know.
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Right?
No, I do not.
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MR. SCHWARTZ:
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THE COURT:
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(Witness excused.)
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DATE
/s/Lisa Edwards_____
LISA EDWARDS, CRR, RMR
Official United States Court Reporter
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