1990-1217: Shri Chakra & Shri Lalita Puja,

Brahmapuri
From Sahaja Yoga Book Project

The knowledge about Kundalini has been expressed in many

Sanskrit shastras since long and also in Ayruveda it is described. Not
only that, but the books which are for curriculum talk about
Kundalini and the Chakras, because Ayruveda is very very close to
Sahaja Yoga. Even in the Western medicine to begin with, if you see
the history, they too dealt with three doshas; they dealt with three
problems that we have, as in Ayruveda. The right side which has got
pita, means bile. Left side which has got cough, means phlegm. And
the central path the problems of why you, means the gases. Now
luckily so many western people have taken to Sahaja Yog and have
tried to bring down all the permutations and combinations to the
simple reasoning of left, right and center. But the knowledge of
Sahaja Yoga is absolutely basics.
Even Ayruveda is one step away from Reality of which [YOU CAN
SAY?] the fundamentals. So you are dealing with the fundamentals
of which a human being is built and if this knowledge was found out
long time back in India should we not accept it? The reason why
people went into meditation in those days and found out all these
deeper things within ourselves, because they didnt have to fight
the nature. You have seen here nature how beautiful it is. You can
spend all your life under a tree, while in the west even before
getting out of the house you have to take at least fifteen to twenty
minutes to be prepared to go out! Its quite a struggle! So the
nature has been so kind and that is the reason people took to
meditation and found out all these deeper things within themselves.
When they found it out it was all written in Sanskrit language. I have
such a big thick book on this which has described all the Shakti Pitas
and all the Shri Chakras. Brahma Chakra, Lalita Chakras and all that.
But this was just written down, but hardly any person got
Realization. But in any other language, like Marathi or Hindi, which
was spoken and written by common people, nothing was done.
Nobody knew about it. Only a few people who read about it,
specially the Shalivas, they went into the research and they went
into the work. But very few people really got Realization. Very very
few.
Then in the twelfth century only the [NATHBONTIS?) who were
experts of Sankrit, who were following it rigidly, that one master
should have one disciple. Not more than that. This was their
tradition. But in the twelfth century Ganadeva Ganeshwara who was

another [NATHBONTI ?] his guru was his own brother he asked

the permission from his brother that, please allow me to say all
these things openly. At least to say in Marathi language. Because
the common people dont know anything about this knowledge. So
he allowed him and he wrote the six chapter of Ganeshwari in which
he described Kundalini. But it was in the twelfth century. After that
many saints described, talked about it. Where we went yesterday to
Sattara, you know thats the place where Shri [RAMADASARA?] lived,
he said that Kundalini - they asked somebody asked, how much
time does it take to raise the Kundalini? he said
[DATDAKSHANA ?], means that moment. But the person who
wants to take it should be deserving and the one who wants to give
should be capable. Its a big condition. This is such a big if, capital
if I tell you.
As a result very very few people got their Realization and those who
were born as realized souls found it impossible to talk to people.
Ganeshwara, such an enlightened soul himself, wrote one beautiful
book called Amrutannapur - which I will try to translate which is
very joy giving. To Me at least its very great joy giving. He went so
deep into the understanding of this joy. I wish English language
would provide Me that subtlety to translate that book. That he wrote
all these things when he was only twenty three years of age and at
the age of twenty three years he got so fed-up that he took a living
samhadhi. That is he entered into a cave and killed himself. They all
tortured him very much. Nowadays this [ANDASADDHA?] stupid
thing is not tortured as much, but all these saints in this country or
any country have been very much tortured. And there was no police
protection. There was no one to publish about what these people are
up to.
Despite all that, I find there are many Sahaja Yogis who are now
occupying very big positions in the government and a day may
come when everything will explode. The biggest problem of our
country is something you cannot understand because you dont
have this problem there. The amount of corruption we have from A
to Z, for everything, that you cannot understand. I mean, I have
never known any country where they have to such an extent. Even,
say, in Phillipines it was only one person who was doing it. Here,
every person has to get the money and has to pay the money to
hire johnnies. For this also, unless and until you get to Sahaja Yoga,
it wont work out. And Sahaja Yoga can only be worked out if people
understand that it is their heritage and that they have the capacity
to understand Sahaja Yoga and capability to spread it.
In North India it is much better tho the vibrations in Maharastra are
much better. Its something funny. Vibrations in Maharastras very
good. The people in the North India are very good Sahaja Yogis and
they are many, many, many in number. We cant say, even in

Bombay we get about twelve thousand people for My programmes.

But still, the way it is spreading in the North India is very surprising.
Also it is spreading. This is [SATTARA ?] because it was blessed by
[RAMDASA?] this district. I think everywhere there is a flower there
has to be thorns and this district has got some really very bad
culprits [AHMDEBA?]. is much better. Aurangabad we are doing
much better. It will work out in Aurangabad much better. And then if
you go to the other side [BERA?] from where I come, its going to
work out very fast; things are moving very fast there. I was amazed.
So many people have told Me that in [AMBRAVATI?] so many are
Sahaja Yogis. In Akola so many are there and I was surprised. I have
never been. So that is how it is spreading in Maharastra. So your
song of Maharastra Desha is working out. Its not failing. But I think
Sattara is the most difficult place where we worked out yesterday, I
gave them left and right as to what they are. It has helped them a
lot, because those who came to oppose sat down and want their
Realization.
So they are misleading people to start some sort of a new culture
like you started hippyism, and they are collecting young people.
Young people are leaving their schools. Some parents came and
complained to Me about it. They are not paying attention to their
studies. They are failing in their classes. And these people are
stupidly using them.
I asked some of the boys: What is your policy?
He said: We have no policy.
Then what is your aim?
We have no aim.
Then why are you doing this nonsense?
They said: Because whatever the elders tell us, we do it.
I said: Have you no personality? Nothing? This exactly happened
when this hippy movement started. Some so called intellectuals
started this horrible hippy movement in the West and when they
found they cannot do anything about it, they found its going to fail.
So many children lost their education. So many children I know
became pregnant girls and boys started squatting. All that took
them to the extreme that they became violent. But unless and until
there is a change within yourself, how can you change anything
outside? You cannot. And the first seven people I fought were all
hippies. Very difficult. They called themselves hippies, but they used
to hog like a pig. They wanted all the comforts. Everything free.
Extremely dominating and quarrelsome people. But the foundation

was laid on them. Its very surprising. But I had to work on them for
at least four years, regularly. So that is how Sahaja Yoga started and
today you know how much it has spread. How far it has gone. Only
in Maharastra this problem is there of so called intellectuals
theyve called themselves but they have no intelligence. I talked to
one man. I got fed-up. He didnt know anything about spirituality. He
didnt know anything about medicine. He didnt know anything
about science. I said: now what do you know? So is impossible. So
such people who are jobless because [UNINTELLIGIBLE] They have
no work. They are starting all such things, and we should not be
upset with them. They are trying to create problems and they are
getting money from some sources. They are afraid.
I think the politicians are afraid, perhaps, that Sahaja Yoga may turn
their tables down. Because we believe in honesty, and maybe a day
may come when these honest people might harm them. Perhaps. I
do not know why. This may be one of the reasons these people are
frightened of us. Whatever it is, we have to understand that for
doing any great work one has to sacrifice. Of course you are not
going to be crucified like Christ. No. Nor you have to sacrifice as My
parents sacrificed for the independence of this country. Nor you are
going to be tortured, but little inconveniences you may have. But I
must thank you very much because of your coming here and singing
Marati songs. They are quite impressed, and they think it is only
possible because you are all Sahaja Yogis. Otherwise you could not
have done. So if there are any inconveniences, think that its a joke.
Thats all.
Today I was thinking we should do the Puja of Shri Chakra and Lalita
Chakra which we have never done. This is the right place to do
these two chakras today. Lot has been written about Shri Chakra
and about Lalita Chakra. But to understand fundamentally: the Left
Side when it reaches up to Vishuddhi then it uses on the right side
the Shri Chakra on the left side the Lalita Chakra to manifest itself.
These two chakras are the ones who manifest all that you see. But
these chakras are the ones who emit vibrations of different kinds
and because of their angularities. Like if you have some sort of a
cardboard attached with small small holes of different colors and
which rotates all the time: you get different colors. Also you can get
different permutations and combinations. In the same way different
permutations and combinations are created and that is how you get
all the advantages of Sahaja Yoga. So these two chakras are very
important. I do not know if you know of any mantras about Shri
Chakra but Ill give you a book. Later on Ill translate it to you and
you can compose something for Shri Chakra. Shri Chakra on the
right side. Lalita Chakra on the left side. So what we are really
worshipping today is Mahasaraswati power and Mahakali power both
put together. So now we have started combining things. Not
individual.

Now these two energies are very important. Without the energy
without the power nothing exists. For example, if this light had no
power to give light or to burn, it is useless. In the same way, without
getting your Realization you are useless because your power is not
awakened. At least not complete. But these two powers give us lots
of benefits even without Realization. Whatever you see in this world
created, is done by these two Chakras of the Adi Shakti. But here
the power doesnt move. Its not moving. But in the human being
the power start moving and when it starts moving then we can say
it is creating another world. But movement is not the only thing.
This power acts, gives you intelligence, gives you all kinds of things
which you have as human beings. But later on, this power itself
becomes enlightened within you. Means the left and right side both
become enlightened. This enlightenment you get it when you get
your Self Realization. But not immediately. Not immediately. This
one should understand.
For example, if you have pain or if your chakra is catching, you have
to use your hands. You cannot say that, the energy is flowing within
me, so its alright. I can manage. Its not like that. You have to use
your hands to impart that power to yourself or to others. If you have
pain in the stomach then you can say that, if theres energy in my
stomach why should I have pain in the stomach? But the play of
these chakras have to come and that is why you have to use your
power of your hands. If you cannot use your hands then you cannot
impart this energy. Many people have asked Me that, Mother when
will it move horizontal? It will move horizontal no doubt. It does.
But even that horizontal movement is to be guided by these two
very important chakras.
So you must understand the importance of these two chakras within
yourself. Thats why Ive told many a times, dont move your head
too many times. And this way many people talk. I mean its style of
talking: No this, that. Very common. With French specially. Thats
another way you are not respecting your chakras. Shouldnt move
your shoulders too much. Mostly they talk like this. Its anti-chakras.
Anti charkas. Should keep your shoulders straight. When you are
singing you can move your whole upper part. Is alright. But not your
shoulders. This is the thing one has to understand, that these two
centers are to be looked after. You can move your neck, your body
when you are singing. Is important. That helps. But not your
shoulders. Shoulders are to be kept intact. But while saying just
yes, you need not go on yes, yes, yes, yes. Its very, very simple
thing but it can have a very bad effect. And those who move their
shoulders too much do not feel vibrations much, because the
chakras are not alright. Its a very simple thing to be understood
that they are the most important chakras we have and whatever is
to be used out of this Paramachaitanya, they have to be used by

these two centers. Even supposing your some chakra is catching on

your spinal cord, you have to use your hands. Somebody can say, I
can just put my attention. Doesnt work out that good because yet
your attention has not that, reached that stage where these charkas
like Lalita Chakra and Shri Chakra obey your attention. They do not.
So you have to work out with your hands. Be careful. Dont move
your shoulders too much. And if you see now, Indians when they
sing bhajans, theyll move the whole body. Theyll do like this. But
never their shoulders. The shoulders will move in the same way as
the neck is moving. They might move their neck also, but theyll
never move their shoulders like this and is regarded as inauspicious
according to Indian standards. Because of this culture, based on
what the saints have told and also about many seers have told, it is
more related to spiritual life than to materialistic life.
Now the materialistic life, unless and until there is the foundation of
the spiritual life, takes you to a very partial development, you can
say. But to get a full development you must have your foundation on
spirituality. Thats why spirituality, being the foundation, has to be
deep, has to be fully equipped, has to be absolutely perfect. Then
the whole building can be built. Its gone wrong in the West. Doesnt
matter. Now you can build it up, and then youll be surprised how
youll become really solid people. This is a very short talk about Shri
Chakra.
I think I should sit down and write all about it and it will be nice,
handy thing for you to read. But you must know that beyond
thought when you go, these chakras become extremely efficient.
Because the thought puts a pressure on them and because of the
pressure the movement of these charkas is very slow and
ineffective. But once you can get out of your thoughts and go into
thoughtless awareness, then these chakras start working it out and
you start moving much deeper into your own being.
END OF ENGLISH TALK. Shri Mataji speaks now in Indian language.