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M.Sc.(Hons.): Biological Sciences 267 @pilani
M.Sc.(Hons.): Biological Sciences 252 @goa
M.Sc.(Hons.): Chemistry 269 @goa
M.Sc.(Hons.): Chemistry 268 @hyderabad
M.Sc.(Hons.): Biological Sciences 252 @hyderabad

2008 Cutoffs
M.Sc.(Hons.): Biological Science 263 @pilani
M.Sc.(Hons.): Chemistry 265 @goa
M.Sc.(Hons.): Chemistry 264 @hyderabad
M.Sc.(Hons.): Economics 266 @hyderabad
M.Sc.(Hons.): Mathematics 268 @hyderabad
M.Sc.(Hons.): Physics 267 @hyderabad

see 2008 and 2009 bitsat cutoffs at http://tinyurl.com/bits09


At BITS , all students who are in MSc.(Hons) (P/C/M/Bio/Eco) get an assured BE D
ual Degree.So they effectively pass out with MSc(Integ) and BE Degrees in 5 yrs
.
All MSc. (Hons) (and not Tech) will get an assured BE Degree , alloted to them a
t the end of the 1st year , based on their CGPA for 1st year.(ACCORDING TO PERFO
RMANCE IN FIRST YEAR)
For a CS or EEE , you need an above average CGPA , while Mech./Chem/Civil can be
got at lower CGPAs too.But you will get some BE Dual assured .

some doubs about dual answered

This post is meant for all the aspirants who d like to know more about the MSc. Co
urses at BITS Pilani(Pilani , Goa , Hyderabad Campuses) and the Dual Degree Sche
me .

Q.1)What are these MSc. Courses?

A.1)MSc. Courses are Science-based courses , similar to that offerred in other I


nstitutions.

In BITS they are of 2 types :


1)MSc.(Hons) in P , C , M ,Eco ,Bio

2)MSc.(Tech) in Information Systems , Finance , Gen. Stu

Q.2)What is this Dual Degree Scheme?

A.2) All MSc. (Hons) (and not Tech) will get an assured BE Degree , alloted to t
hem at the end of the 1st year , based on their CGPA for 1st year.

Q.3)Is it tough to get a good dual?

A.3) Not at all.For a CS or EEE , you need an above average CGPA , while Mech./C
hem/Civil can be got at lower CGPAs too.But you will get some BE Dual assured .

Q.4)So what Degrees do I pass out with?

A.4)You get a BE and an Integrated Msc and you spend 5 years.Integ MSc. basicall
y is BSc + MSc combined ,and it can be done by a 12th pass student.Time duration
for it is 4 yrs(without a Dual).

Q.5)So , you basically waste another year?

A.5)Thats a bad way of saying it.


You get another degree from BITS , and you get 2 Practice Schools(i.e. 1 year).S
o basically you spend that extra year working.This is imp for PS2 Placements(Che
ck my Practice School Post)

And that MSc. does help when applying abroad.

Q.6)Then why are the cutoffs low?

A.6)Because most people are uninformed and don t have a clue about the Dual Degree
Scheme.But then again , no other insti in India offers this , so such flexibili
ties are rare in India.

I think aspirants and their advisors(parents , friends etc.) are to be blamed fo


r this.THERE IS NO SHAME INVOLVED IN TAKING AN MSc. AND A B.E. DUAL .THOSE WHO THI
NK THIS WAY ARE FOOLS.

Q.7)Do you get separate Degrees?

A.7)Yes , they are absolutely separate.

Q.8)What other such schemes are there at BITS?

A.8)Based on your 1st Year CGPA ,

1)Vertical Transfers:If you are in the Top 30 students in any of the Campuses ,
you can leave your old course(MSc. or BE) and take a new course(MSc. or BE).Tim
e taken = 4 years
2)BE + BE: Offerred to only Top 10 students in each campus.Pref choices incl. Me
ch + EnI , CS + EEE.Time = 5yrs , 2PS2s

3)MSc. + MSc.:Offerred at lower CGPAs.Very rare.Preferred incl. MSc.Phy + MSc.Ma


ths(5yrs)

4)MSc.(Tech) + BE Dual :rare , offerred to only very high CGPA people.(5yrs)

Based on BITSAT Marks and vacancies

1)Campus Transfers:Very rare , not advisable to join a campus thinking you can g
et out later.Basically it happens at the end of 1st sem.Your BITSAT marks only m
atter. Along with 2nd sem admission ppl , all BITSAT Marks are arranged in desce
nding order and seats(based on vacancies , usually in Chemical and Bio Sci , Pha
rma) are alloted.

Q.9)Isn t this tough?

A.9) NOT AT ALL.

Remember that for 1st year ALL students in BITS do exactly the same courses , s
o getting a Dual through MSc. Chem is same as for MSc. Phy .

2nd year , most courses are the same .


3rd year , BE students will do their Core Courses for their BE Degree.MSc ppl wi
ll do for their MSc.

4th yr , BE Students will go for PS2(1 sem) and will do a few extra courses in t
he other sem(Very light sem).MSc. ppl will do their Dual Degree Core Courses.

5th yr BE students will have passed out.MSc. students will now go for PS2 for 2
sems.

Q.10)Which MSc + BE Combos are the best?(Like MSc. Phy + EEE , MSc Chem + Chemic
al ... )

A.10) NONE OF THEM!

Choose your MSc. depending on the subject you like the most and/or you are good
at.In my Myths abt Engg post I have discussed why.

And there is a trend for ppl to choose MSc. Phy much above Msc. Bio Sci.Frankly
this is silly.MSc. Bio Sci is basically Bio Engg and is quite interesting.Many s
tudents from other MScs tried for an MSc Bio(at the end of their 1st yr) , out o
f which very few were given.So , don t fall into the trap of choosing Phy because
it sounds glamourous. In reality it is very tough and only those genuinely excel
lent at it will enjoy it.

And don t bother about Placements.Your BE degree will ensure this.Choose your MSc.
out of ineterest.MSc. will help you greatly in applying abroad(assuming you hav
e actually done something worthwhile in your MSc. field).
Q.11)How is MSc. at BITS differrent from that in the IITs?

A.11)

-No Dual Degree is given in the IITs

-In IITs it is for 5 years

You have to be above avg to get EEE/CS

about dual degree http://tinyurl.com/bits10 and http://tinyurl.com/bits11