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Format of the parameter Type POINTER

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8/12/2007 6:26 PM
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Dear Everyone,
I am not able to understand the concept behind the format of pointer.
Step7 help helps me that it is 6Bytes.
Byte 0 and Byte 1 with DB Number or 0
Byte2withMemory Area....and so on.
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I could understand thesome applications/uses but could not understand the

above discription.
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8/12/2007 6:49 PM
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Hi Rajasekhar,
POINTER:
References the address of a variable.
https://support.industry.siemens.com/tf/ww/en/posts/format-of-the-parameter-type-pointer/11220/?page=0&pageSize=10
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A pointer contains an address instead of a value. When you supply a value to a

formal parameter of the parameter type POINTER, you specify an address as
the actual parameter. In STEP 7, you can specify a pointer in the pointer format
or simply as an address (for example, M 50.0). Example of a pointer format for
addressing the data beginning at M 50.0: P#M50.0
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But you could give also no type of variable:
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P#8.7
Load the value of the pointer into

accumulator 1.
MD2
Transfer the pointer to MD2.
I [MD2]
Query the signal state at input bit I 8.7 and
Q [MD2]
assign the signal state to output bit Q 8.7.
Or with a type of variable over the address registers:

L
P# I8.7
LAR1
Load the value of the pointer and the area

identification in accumulator 1.
Load memory area I and the address 8.7
into AR1.
P# Q8.7
Load the value of the pointer and the area

identification in accumulator 1.
LAR2
Load memory area Q and the address

8.7 into AR2.
[AR1, P#0.0]
Query the signal state at input bit I 8.7

and
[AR2, P#1.1]
assign the signal state to output bit Q

10.0.
So this Pointer will give you the opportunity to use a variable Operator in the
mentioned commands so that you can work with variable units.
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I hope that the answer will help, if you have still questions, don't hesitate to ask
me.
All the best, Late
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8/13/2007 2:58 PM
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Dear Late,
I got some information but I want to know about the format....
Suppose there is a DB33, and I could easily know the value inDB33.DBD32 (
just by going on-line )and If I want to know the address of it, How? And how does
it require 6 bytes?
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Also If I want to transfer 33.33 into that location I would do:

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OPN DB33
L 32
SLD 3
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T #pointer_1 //pointer_1 is declared as DINT.

L 33.33
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T DBD[#pointer_1] // I want to know how this occupies 6 bytes?

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Hi,
Please go to Simatic Manager, go to help.
Search in index for Pointer: Then display 'Format of the Parameter Type Pointer'
Perhaps this will help you.
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6 bytes are required for following 2 for block number and 4 for pointer.
In your case it would be like 33+P#DBX32.0. But you can't use pointer,
consisting of 6 or 10 bytes directly - you can use only 4-byte pointer. So in you
case it would be like
OPN DB33
L 32
SLD 3 //ACCU now contains P#32.0
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T #tempptr //temp DINT variable

L DBW[#tempptr] // you read DB33.DBW32

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Aret
6 bytes are required for following 2 for block number and 4 for pointer.
In your case it would be like 33+P#DBX32.0. But you can't use pointer,
consisting of 6 or 10 bytes directly - you can use only 4-byte pointer. So in
you case it would be like
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OPN DB33
L 32
SLD 3 //ACCU now contains P#32.0
T #tempptr //temp DINT variable
L DBW[#tempptr] // you read DB33.DBW32
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Ok Aret, I got some understanding...one reason may be we should use #tempptr

as DINT and We know that DINT requires 4 bytes and then DB No. 2Bytes total
6Bytes.
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But I want to see them all at once in monitor mode as we would see the other
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variables...MD20, MW24 like that.....
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Also using Indirect option during monitor mode from STL editor I could see the
address....
Also I want to know when we use the below format...
P##ptr
note double #.
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Ok, think you have variable

21.0 TEMP anyptr: ANY.
It has some predefined structure and you want to see it's contents. Well, most
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obivious way - use L instruction with local area like L LW21. It may be good for
debugging, but not too good for making programm. So you have to make
something to decombine ANY parameter.Youcanmakeso
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L P##anyptr // now CPU contains ADDRESS of variable named "anyptr"
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LAR1 // copy that to addressregister
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L W[AR1,P#2.0] // this is repetition factor

L W[AR1,P#4.0] // this is DB number
L D[AR1, P#6.0] // this is pointer to data, that was inside "anyptr"
I would advise you to look through Examples STEP7 on indirect addressing because there is plenty things to mention - actually it's too big for forum. Take a
look on
http://support.automation.siemens.com/WW/view/en/19345299 - think it would
be usefull.
PS. You can use POINTER instead of ANY, but it's not simplier. On the other
hand ANY contains more information and that's why it's better to use ANY.
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I could understand thesome applications/uses but could not understand the

A pointer contains an address instead of a value. When you supply a value to a

Load the value of the pointer into

Transfer the pointer to MD2.

Query the signal state at input bit I 8.7 and

assign the signal state to output bit Q 8.7.

Or with a type of variable over the address registers:

Load the value of the pointer and the area

Load the value of the pointer and the area

Load memory area Q and the address

Query the signal state at input bit I 8.7

assign the signal state to output bit Q

Also If I want to transfer 33.33 into that location I would do:

T #pointer_1 //pointer_1 is declared as DINT.

T DBD[#pointer_1] // I want to know how this occupies 6 bytes?

T #tempptr //temp DINT variable

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Ok Aret, I got some understanding...one reason may be we should use #tempptr

variables...MD20, MW24 like that.....

Ok, think you have variable

L P##anyptr // now CPU contains ADDRESS of variable named "anyptr"

LAR1 // copy that to addressregister

L W[AR1,P#2.0] // this is repetition factor

Last edited by: Aret at: 15.08.2007 07:51

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