THE TRINITY HERESY

Ps 2:1. Why do the heathen rage, and the people imagine a vain thing?.........
Rom 1:20. For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are CLEARLY SEEN, being UNDERSTOOD by the things that
are made, EVEN HIS eternal power and GODHEAD; so that they are WITHOUT EXCUSE:

INTRODUCTION: SO TELL ME HOW YOU REALLY FEEL

It is almost impossible to wrap ones head around how something so pervasive, so widely accepted, most
of the time without doubt or second thought can be so obviously damnable as the doctrine of the trinity
that it can only be 2Thess 2:11mocking the wicked to their face.(1Kings 22:19-35) In fact, some folks
seem to almost consider it a sin just to even consider any discussion on the validity of the doctrine of the
trinity. Yet when examined to depth the doctrine is found to be so blatantly self contradicting,
scripturally contradicting and out right incomprehensible dung of the highest magnitude that one can
only come to the conclusion that either God is a universalist (everyone is going to heaven) or God has a
cruel but very just surprise for almost everyone and anyone of any group calling themselves Christian.
What makes it all the more fascinating is how so many people, even non-devout Christians, can call it
orthodoxy almost with a pavlovian like quality. This is but yet another twist found in the never
ending saga of the heretics apologetic tool bag. The technical definition of orthodoxy is right
thinking however when Trinitarians use it to describe the doctrine of the trinity what they do (even if
unwittingly) is associate and or use the term synonymous with the popular thinking or the doctrine that
most Christians hold and of course they would reason that they do so because it is right thinking.
This is why they like to associate the doctrine of Trinity with orthodoxy so much. It leaves their
audience knowing that most Christians do accept it, so It also implies that it must be true and
orthodox or for non Christians it leads them to thinking that it must be what true Christianity believes
and teaches.
Rom 2: 22. Thou that sayest a man should not commit adultery, dost thou commit adultery? THOU THAT ABHORREST IDOLS,
DOST THOU COMMIT SACRILEGE? 23. Thou that makest thy boast of the law, through breaking the law dishonourest thou
God? 24. FOR THE NAME OF GOD IS BLASPHEMED AMONG THE GENTILES THROUGH YOU, as it is
written.

I started out by saying Almost because if one considers the words of Christ himself then the matter of
how so many Christians believe in certain dogmas becomes more clear and perhaps a sober excuse to
re-consider everything you think you know. Trinitarians are nothing more then polytheistic pagans who
masquerade as Christians (or have been tricked into believing they are Christian) and point to the fact
that they have so many adherents as proof that they are the true church and hold to the true doctrine.
Isaiah 66:4.4. I also will CHOOSE THEIR DELUSIONS,
2Thess 2:11.. And for this cause GOD SHALL SEND THEM STRONG DELUSION, that they should
believe a lie:
Mat 22:14 ..MANY are CALLED..
Mat 20:16. So the last shall be first, and the first last: for MANY BE CALLED, ..

Only those who first were of the house of Israel (all of Israel was called) and now only those
that actually find or Come to Christ are of the called. The called are defined by the fact that
they have accepted Christ and the gift of salvation offered.
Rom 8:30 whom he did predestinate, them he also CALLED..
Acts 2:39even AS MANY as the Lord our God shall CALL..

Take note of as many, God does not call everyone Even still only few out of those who are
called and come to Christ actually make it to heaven.
Mat 22:14 continued .......FEW are CHOSEN

Mat 20:16 continued . BUT FEW CHOSEN.

The point here is not to debate the predestination issue, but simply point out that of most people who are
Christians, who are called only FEW are chosen worthy. Many theologians would denounce this out
right and the object here is not to explore this in depth in this study but simply mention it for latter and
offer it as an excuse for why so many Christians hold to so many damnable but popular views and
call It orthodoxy.(right-thinking that gets confused with popular thinking)
Most people do not seem to grasp the difference between a distinction or difference within an individual
and a separate individual (or thing) altogether. Dr. James White is a popular theologian and has written
many books one of which was entitled The Forgotten Trinity It is too bad everyone has not and does
not forget it (trinity) Three persons is by definition a plurality of persons or three god persons not one
God person and thus three people who are each God is by definition three gods not one God. In fact if
"God is one" only refers to oneness in purpose then your admitting that you are a polytheist having three
different persons who each are God because you just destroyed the only reason you had for claiming you
are a monotheist. In fact when Trinitarians will claim they only worship one God they are in fact no
different then a liar and a thief who insist he does not lie or steal. You worship three different persons
who each are God and only one in purpose not one in person. That is three different persons and three
different gods, as such are polytheist not monotheist (Trying to appeal to three different persons in a
single being is nonsense since a person is an individual being and in any case, no such "three GodHeaded monster" exist anywhere else except in the minds of Trinitarians who created it for the sole
purpose of denying the truth and twisting scripture to fit their love of lies.) Many complain you just
dont understand the doctrine of the trinity but the truth is that these academic fools like to play
wack-a-mole with their terms and concepts. This book will address all the basic forms and prove that
no matter what acrobatic contortions they twist the end result is the same and their damnation is just.
The fact is Trinitarians must admit they worship three different persons who are each God with different
amounts of god powers, knowledge and authority who send each other around (who are only one in
purpose but not one in person) is three gods not one, claiming it "really is one" does not make it true!?!
This is the worship literally of another (person) Jesus (2Cor 11:4). Thus claiming repeatedly you are
not a polytheist, is in fact just the delusion of fools and hypocrites. To be fair after much discussion with
one Trinitarian preacher he actually admitted yes we worship three gods. Now most Trinitarians would
deny this with their dying breath. The point here is this is the only honest statement a Trinitarian can
make. I realized that he wanted to believe in the trinity so much that he would go wherever the doctrine
would go and that no amount of logic or scripture would convince him otherwise. He had bought the bill
of goods with his eyes wide opened. However, It will not take long for him to find someone who will be
able to explain to him why they do not really worship three gods. It will be something to the affect that
he just did not posses the understanding and terminology to get around this paradoxical conclusion.
The explanation will of course, as they all are, will be the most irrational swath of unnecessary, self
contradicting and outright false humility dung that any man has ever swallowed. But the truth is some
people were made for damnation and the eternal fire of destruction. Now dont let that bother you too
much. The devil and his angles were made for destruction too, so those of you in that same boat will be
with like minded company.
A good example of the doctrine of the trinity is expressed in what has become known as the the
Athianasis creed. Now it does not matter if your version of the doctrine of God in three persons fits with
this particular creed or whether or not you agree with this creed or any creed for that matter! This paper
will address the doctrine of the trinity in all of its basic forms and demonstrate that it is heresy whether
or not you hold to any particular creed or not. This particular creed here is called the Athanasius creed
but it was not actually written by Athianasis. It however is a good demonstration of the
incomprehensible nature and masterful art of double speak that any other version of the doctrine of the
trinity will also exhibit even if they do it slightly differently or with different terms/concepts or
peripheral issues on this subject. So for all the hypocrites who would denounce this or any man made
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creeds but in practice still hold to its same argumentation, conclusion and or similar logical fallacies
dont worry your version in your turn will be exposed here soon enough. In any case here it is:
1."Whosoever will be saved, before all things it is necessary that he hold the Catholic* Faith.
2.Which Faith except everyone do keep whole and undefiled, without doubt he shall perish everlastingly.
3.And the Catholic* Faith is this, that we worship one God in Trinity and Trinity in Unity.
4.Neither confounding the Persons, nor dividing the Substance.
5.For THERE IS ONE PERSON OF THE FATHER, ANOTHER OF THE SON, AND ANOTHER OF THE
HOLY GHOST.
6.But the Godhead of the Father, of the Son and of the Holy Ghost is all One, the Glory Equal, the Majesty CoEternal.
7.Such as the Father is, such is the Son, and such is the Holy Ghost.
8.The Father Uncreate, the Son Uncreate, and the Holy Ghost Uncreate.
9.THE FATHER INCOMPREHENSIBLE, THE SON INCOMPREHENSIBLE, AND THE HOLY GHOST
INCOMPREHENSIBLE.
10.The Father Eternal, the Son Eternal, and the Holy Ghost Etneral.
11. And yet they are NOT THREE ETERNALS BUT ONE ETERNAL.
12. As also there are NOT THREE UNCREATED, NOR THREE INCOMPREHENSIBLES, BUT ONE
UNCREATED, AND ONE UNCOMPREHENSIBLE.
13. So likewise the Father is Almighty, the Son Almighty, and the Holy Ghost Almighty. 14. And yet they are not
Three Almighties but One Almighty.
15. So the Father is God, the Son is God, and the Holy Ghost is God.
16. And yet they are NOT THREE GODS, BUT ONE GOD.
17. So likewise the Father is Lord, the Son Lord, and the Holy Ghost Lord.
18. And yet NOT THREE LORDS BUT ONE LORD.
19. FOR, LIKE AS WE ARE COMPELLED BY THE CHRISTIAN VERITY TO ACKNOWLEDGE EVERY
PERSON BY HIMSELF TO BE GOD AND LORD;
20. SO ARE WE FORBIDDEN BY THE CATHOLIC* RELIGION TO SAY, THERE BE THREE GODS OR
THREE LORDS.
21.The Father is made of none, neither created, nor begotten.
22.The Son is of the Father alone; not made, nor created, but begotten.
23.The Holy Ghost is of the Father, and of the Son neither made, nor created, nor begotten, but proceeding.
24."So there is One Father, not Three Fathers; one Son, not Three Sons; One Holy Ghost, not Three Holy Ghosts.
25.And in this Trinity none is afore or after Other, None is greater or less than Another.
26. But THE WHOLE THREE PERSONS are Co-eternal together, and Co-equal.
27. So that in all things, as is aforesaid, the UNITY IS TRINITY, AND THE TRINITY IS UNITY IS TO BE
WORSHIPPED.
28.He therefore that will be saved, must thus think of the Trinity." (The Athanasian Creed.)

This is the kind of masterful double-speak that all Trinitarian doctrinal versions must employ. This like
most Trinitarians must admit it is INCOMPREHENSIBLE but yet it is the most reasonable argument
they pretend. Their arguments attempt to convince everyone that the best most reasonable arguments
from scriptures reach a conclusion that is incomprehensible and you must accept the truth of it as
such. This is truly ironic, they give you their interpretations and theory, or models of a three person
headed god while admitting it is incomprehensible but claim you must have faith in their theory under
pain of damnation. No! These people are damned fools (factually in a state of damnation AND they are
fools for it, because they are without excuse!) and they need to be exposed for what they are. They may
have different versions and ideas of how the trinity all works in scripture and or reality but at the end
of the day it is just the same kind of double minded (James 1:8) double speak as any other demonic
doctrine.

.choke choke cough cough it all downRom 1:20. For THE INVISIBLE THINGS OF HIM
from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, EVEN his
eternal power AND GODHEAD; so that THEY ARE WITHOUT EXCUSE;..This Trinitarian idea
of God head is nowhere to be seen certainly not clearly by the things which are made such that they are
without excuse (no, it is incomprehensible?!?).
This is the typical Trinitarian mindset, confusion and irrational doctrines make perfect sense while
ordinary and obvious explanations will seem confusing and difficult to grasp or comprehend. Pay special
attention to that 20th clause. What it states is nothing less then; each person of the trinity is God by
himself but the church is forbidden to say there are three Gods.In effect, know they worship three
different god persons (God is three different person who are each God with different amounts of god
knowledge /power and authority/) to be true; believe it to be true just dont say that that three different
god persons is three different gods?!?
It makes no difference whether or not you claim to hold to any creed (or denounce all creeds; we are
bible only folk) the reality is that the only real and substantive argument that any Trinitarian can
legitimately lay claim to for why and how three different persons who are each God is not three different
gods is that they are forbidden to say it!!! That would be like me stealing your things and then claiming I
did not steal them because I am forbidden from confessing that I stole from you, ergo I did not steal
from you.!?! Look what fools men have become. The fact you deny what your doing does not change
the fact that you are indeed doing it! Worshiping three different persons and calling it ONE GOD
does not change that fact that you are worshiping three different gods who are each a different god
person in a different location doing different things. Your not just liars and hypocrites youre delusional
beyond words. You think that if you call your pagan practices Christian then it must be so. We do not
worship three different gods because that would be wrong and we confess that we only worship one
God. That is the only argument that you can logically, coherently and consistently (Ad nauseam ) make.
The Trinitarian claim is as valid as a whore (or an ancient priest prostitute) who confesses that she
practices the duties of a Christian woman of love. and denounces all forms of sexual immorality!?!
You fools!?!
Imagine someone comes into your home while your away, takes your things and when they are caught
red handed they claim look. I have confessed that I did not steal from you. They continue with
How many times do I have to repeat myself?. I confess that thievery is wrong but we (the thieves) do
not steal we reallocated and that is completely different then thievery. Further, we confess that we do
not take other peoples things wrongfully. What fool would believe them? When Trinitarians confess
the worship of three different and distinct persons who are each God (with different amounts of
knowledge power and authority) is the worship of ONE God they are either fools or just liars who seem
to be able to find plenty of other fools who will buy their lies via the a-la-peanut-butter sandwich
confession of we worship one God (no matter how many different persons that god may be). (Jn 10:1
the same is a thief and a robber./ 2Cor 11:4 also take note of just how many times the writings of
John are relevant in this discourse) I use the a-la-peanut-butter sandwiches reference because it is the
same basic approach of trying to take something like sorcery and give it a harmless fun look to it or
take some poison put in the apples and when people start dying claim it must have been something in the
water. A-la-peanut-butter sandwiches has been used as a popular childrens reference to childrens
magic but in fact is really nothing but the desensitization program to make sorcery which exactly
what the doctrine of Trinitarians is sorcery, seem harmless and mystical but not malicious ..you
knowlike magic these are not the droids you looking for ..they can go on their way.. The
thief does what thieves do and accomplishes what thieves accomplish but your supposed to accept it as
okie dokie because, well, they confessed that thievery is wrong period and they did not do that. They
Confess these facts emphatically!. You may not be able to properly understand the great mystery of
what they did but neither should the fact it is incomprehensible and irrational bother you, just accept it
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knowing that it is the truth and or face the wrath of Gods justice to all who deny that what they are
saying is truthful and good. After all, they confessed Unity is Trinity, and the Trinity is Unity therefore
it must be true Right?
They prefer to claim any contradiction(s) as just an apparent contradictions. This is to say they will
claim there is no real contradiction, only it may look like a contradiction because of something to the
effect; we cannot overcome the limited ability of the human mind to grasp the full nature of our great
God. This then allows them to: (a). Feel that the contradictions are not real. If they imagine them as not
real then maybe they are not real, so then there is no reason for them to question much less abandon
their theology. (b) Since they now accept all of their contradictions as only apparent contradiction
(explanations not needed) they can and now do offer this tenacity of their faith as an indication of just
how pious and humble they are in the sight of a awesome God!?! Even though it looks like a
contradiction, just know that it is not. They want you to take someones word for it, after all the just
live by faith. They do not care so much that our faith is to be in the word of God not the mysteries
that others create for everyone to accept. This does not make anyone pious or humble it makes them
confused fools.
The concept of Trinity would and could only be a valid concept if there were a need to explain God as
multiple different persons in the first place. In the same way that a doctrine of multiple Jesus and
crucifixions would be valid if there were no way to understand how all those different narratives in the
different gospels, could be the same story of the same Jesus. Since there is a way to understand one
Jesus in all those different narratives (the same story of Jesus told from different peoples perspectives)
likewise, all those favorite verses that folks like to appeal to for a demand of multiple persons of God
can be just as easily understood as one person, and there is no justification for the term or concept of
Trinity". In fact there is no need to even explain what a trinity is. The whole argument for Trinity
requires its subscribers to accept a need for it in the first place and then based on that "need" go about to
create a doctrine of trinity to explain what it is. Where is the need to explain it? Every difficulty on the
nature of God can be easily understood within the face value of all the statements. There is no logical
need or justification to even try to explain multiple persons when everything can be understood as one
person. Thus trinity fails before you can even begin to debate it. It is like a whole village coming along
writing papers and trying to explain and convince everyone of their explanation for why the magic
fairies in our garden are not working as hard this year. .WAIT! You must first demonstrate that magic
fairies even exist in the first place. (but remember it is not a magic fairy in the way that people think of
magic fairs, these magic fairies are like the bacteria in the soil except that was determined by town
council to be a heresy, so it is definitely not the nutrients and bacteria in the soil, these are magic fairies
just not magic or fairy as those words are normally defined, because that would be silly) Likewise for
trinity you have to show multiple persons first before you go trying to reinterpret every verse so as to
explain them. The prevailing dogma of this day is found with heretics calling the truth heresy which,
considering everything, is outright foolishness dressed up as humble and awe struck wonderment of God
or couched in some scholarly acrobatic contortionist dance of context and exegesis. This would all be
funny if it were not so inexcusably damnable!
The issue is not about how Great God is or the fact that there are things we don't fully understand.. The
issue is that God is a Great God who has described himself as "one" even using the very same allusions
to his head (in heaven) and His right arm and hand come in the flesh (the son). After all man is made in
the image of God so God has used terminology and His creation created in his own image. God is
described as the head in heaven and the son is described as Gods right hand and arm that came in flesh
on earth and the spirit within us. The fact is that there is no mention of trinity or even a demand for
plural persons anywhere in the text. It is a reasoned construct based on faulty logic. However, it is
even worse then that because it is a constructed conclusion that they must admit cannot be fully
comprehended by the limited human mind. They want you to accept a conclusion that cannot be fully
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comprehended!?! It is not a question that there are things we do not fully understand it is the fact that
men not scriptures feel the need to come along and explain how one really means three. The root issue is
not about God or the scriptures at all. The issue is about men's lack of faith in what God said about
himself in the first place and then make their appeals to false humility and God's grandeur while denying
the very name of the very God they say they love. (2Pter 2:1-3)
A NOTE TO THE PHARISSIES: I know Some will point to "fools" Mat 5:22 but miss the context
1."without a cause", which is the context 2. This is demonstrated in 1 Cor 15:36.Are you offended every
time you read that, YOU FOOLS & HYPOCRITES and BLIND GUIDES!?!? (That was not just written
to the church but still applies to most people in the church to this Day!) People might just want to calm
down and be like Nicodemus who was one of those that Christ "called out" with the same but it did not
stop that honest man from honestly searching out the matters even all the more so......Might need to ask
yourself of what kind of Pharisees are you?.....ummmm
Demonstrating and or showing the comparison and contrast between a sound mind/logic and reasoning
verses how and why certain arguments are such outrageous and inexcusable foolishness so as to be
insulting just for offering them up in the first place is the whole point to the study exercise. The books
Psalms and proverbs refer to fool(s) (Foolishness) quite often. I mention Ps & Prov because they are
simply making reference to a generic state of mind condition and or way of thinking and yet people
dont seem to be too concerned about how many times they use the word because they are not taking it
personally when they read them. So, Why would you take it here so personally unless it somehow it
applies to you???
Proverbs 8:5 - O ye simple, understand wisdom: and, ye FOOLS, be ye of an understanding heart
Proverbs 18:13. He that answereth a matter before he heareth it, it is folly and shame unto him.

THE SUBSERVIANT GOD

Like a very bad magician who is obviously trying to get you to focus only on his left hand while
unavoidably noticing that he is fumbling with something in his right hand that he will latter produce as
proof that he made it appear out of nowhere, Trinitarians claim blatant self contradictions while assuring
everyone that none exist. This god of theirs is made up of three different persons who are Co-eternal
together, and Co-equal. However, the very reasons they give for the necessity of three different persons
(must be different persons because one obeys the other) invalidates the idea that those three different
persons could be considered anything remotely consistent with Co-equal. On the one hand there must
be three different persons because the father loves the son and the son obeys not his will but the fathers
will, on the other hand well they are co-equal Wait..what!?!
Mat 20: 23. ....but to sit on my right hand, and on my left, IS NOT MINE TO GIVE, but it shall be given to them for whom
it is PREPARED OF MY FATHER ....................................Mat 24;36. But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the
angels of heaven, BUT MY FATHER ONLY .. John 14:28: for my FATHER IS GREATER THAN I
John 5:20. For THE FATHER loveth the Son, and SHEWETH HIM ALL THINGS THAT HIMSELF DOETH:
15:15..for ALL THINGS THAT I HAVE HEARD OF MY FATHER I have made known unto you.. John 5:36. But I
have greater witness than that of John: for the works which THE FATHER HATH GIVEN ME TO FINISH, the same
works that I do, bear witness of me, that THE FATHER HATH SENT ME.
1 Cor 2: 23. And YE ARE CHRIST'S; and CHRIST IS GOD'S.
Isaiah 48:16. Come ye near unto me, hear ye this; I have not spoken in secret from the beginning; from the time that it was,
there am I: and now THE LORD GOD, AND HIS SPIRIT, HATH SENT ME.

We belong to Christ as member of a body of Christ where as Christ belongs to GodNote the belonging
or God possessing Christ just as Christ possesses the saints. This shows us ownership of that spirit and
that son; So the son and the spirit are subservient to Jehovah. Trinitarins do not want to see or
appreciate just how devastating the fact that Christ belongs to God and is subservient to the father while
also being co-equal with God..:
Phillipians 2:5. Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus: 6. Who, being in the form of God, thought it not
robbery TO BE EQUAL WITH GOD:

Jesus is the one God but is also the son of the same one God
Jesus is the one God But also the servant of the same one God
Jesus is the one God But also loves/is loved by the same one God
Jesus is the one God But also not as great as the same one God et al ad fin
The fact that Christ belongs to God and is also subservient to the father but yet co-equal with God. (and
for other considerations looked at latter) gives us a big clue that the nature of father and son can
ONLY be coherently and consistently understood as the parts of the same person. (In the same way that
your head is greater then your right arm and some members of a body are greater then others 1Cor
12:17 same principle; Your right arm is with you and it is you not a different person!?!) ...However, to
have different persons with the other two persons subservient to the one person makes a hierarchy of god
persons just like the Greek gods. The only difference is limiting the number of these god persons to three
in your pantheon as opposed to any other number of gods in the other pagan pantheon.
It is also ironic because this is the very point that destroys all arguments for different persons (not to
mention all the other passages we shall get to). and yet many will run to these verses like moths to a
flame it seems. They either cant coherently explain it or punt their conundrum to a great mystery but
cant seem to see the obvious implications. But, as we shall see, the truth is there is no mystery or
difficulty here.
John 5:26. For as the Father hath life in himself; so hath HE GIVEN TO THE SON to have life in himself; 27. And [father]
hath GIVEN HIM [son] AUTHORITY......................... 1 Cor 15:28...then shall the Son also himself BE SUBJECT unto
him[father] THAT PUT all things under him, that God may be all in all. The Father is greater then Jesus any

argument to the contrary is simply silly and delusional!

In any case, the hint should be in the obvious question If Christ is Gods (belongs to God, subservient
to God) and yet co equal with God, then Christ is Gods what?? I know your thinking Gods son right?
Well the Son is God as well as the son of God, we will expound upon this more in chapter five.
In any case, there are only two possibilities that exist here:
1. If Jesus is a different person then he is a less powerfully and knowledgeable person of the
others persons of God then Jesus is not co-equal and as such a lesser person [in a different
location with a different mind], which is a lesser god person. This is the hypocrisy of Trinitarians
because it demands that Jesus is a person of lesser authority, knowledge and power of the other
two persons of God; One person gives the other person his authority!?! If Jesus is a different
person then he is a less powerfully and knowledgeable person of the others persons of God then
Jesus is not co-equal and as such a lesser person, a lesser god; Simply saying no, no is
denying the obvious and only logical conclusion in favor of acrobatic denials of pure
pathological delusions! This is the kind of self contradicting absolute nonsense that Trinitarians
try to push with one hand then cover up and deny with the other.
Or
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2. Jesus is only part of one person God in the same way that my hand is part of me and can only
know and communicate to you what I tell it to communicate This will be shown to be the
correct, coherent and consistent description and explanation we will find in the scriptures.
This should be understood in the same way that a head is greater then a right hand and yet still the same
person as the head, because that is exactly how scriptures describe the relationship between father as the
head and the son as the right hand and arm. Your head is greater then your right arm and yet it is still the
same person of you. In fact this can ONLY be coherently understood as the parts of a single individual
person. No other construct works. Scriptures nor any kind of consistent logic is compatible with three
different persons who are each God (with some persons being greater than the other persons) except for
its a (incomprehensible) mystery. Is your head a different person then your right arm? Jesus is the
spirit of God that animated flesh just like our spirit animates our flesh. Christ did the same things
biologically (eat sleep et al) that we did because Jesus was a spirit attached to flesh (it is just His spirit
was the spirit of God eternally existent, not the spirit of a man) When Christ died that spirit of God left
the flesh it was animating just like ours does when our flesh dies. Jesus is God but not all there is to
God; In the same way that a piece of pie is pure pie but not all there is to the whole pie. So Jesus and the
piece of pie are thus equal to the rest of the pie (Ph 2:6) in terms of substance ............but not in quantity
(power, knowledge et al) .
The only coherent way Christ can be God and subservient to God all at the same time is if Christ is only
a part of God in the same way that my right hand is a part of me (Allen) and subservient to me
(Allen)and can only know and do what I (Allen) tell it and it is also Allen at the same time..It is me
and there is only one person of Me. It is just not all there is to me but neither is it three different person
of me. Otherwise, only option #1 is left and then Christ would certainly not be omniscient, omnipresent,
all powerful. Multiple persons would not allow for Jesus to be subservient unless one is a lesser God (a
different person who is not as knowing and powerful as the other persons) or the son has the same
relationship to the father as your right hand has to your head..your head is greater then your right hand
but only one person. It is quite ironic that the doctrine of trinity makes Jesus out to be a different person
who has less power and authority then the other person of the father and as such a lesser God then the
father.
One person multiple parts some parts of me are subservient to me, just as Jesus was Subservient to the
Father and did not have the power or knowledge to contradict the head which is the father. That is why
the scriptures use the allusions to the head of God and the right hand of God because that is the only way
to understand the nature of God correctly or logically. After all man is made in the image of God;
Ironically, some attempt to point to several favorite passages to try to show that there are more then one
person is present in the person of God; I say ironically, because they actually point and even help prove
that there is in fact only one person of God present and that there is no need or demand for any plurality
of persons. Lets take a look here:
The NT and OT could hardly be any more clear about Who Jesus is and That father and son are the same
person.
NT- Jesus identifies himself as the Father
OT- In That day they would call the one they lift up (on a cross) the Father ..and I AM HE
OT- The one that would Rule for God and the Savior would be the RIGHT ARM of the person
that was sending a savior..and I AM HE
OT- The one who is going to send a servant identifies that servant as HIMSELF!!?! ..and I AM
HE
NT- Except you Believe that I AM HE you will die in your sins..

CHAPTER ONE:
IN THE NAME OF THE FATHER PART 1
John 17:1. These words spake Jesus, and lifted up his eyes to heaven, and said, FATHER, the hour is come; glorify thy Son,
that thy Son also may glorify THEE: 2. As THOU hast given him power 3. .. that they might know THEE THE ONLY
TRUE GOD, and Jesus Christ, whom THOU HAST SENT.

NT- The son identifies himself as the Father

OT- The father is identified as the son Christ is our High priest as well as the sacrificial Lamb of
God, multiple simultaneous roles are not difficult, for the omnipresent one person of God

SHEW US THE FATHER

I
BEEN SO LONG TIME WITH YOU, AND YET HAST THOU NOT KNOWN ME, Philip? he that hath SEEN ME HATH
SEEN THE FATHER; and how sayest thou then, Shew us the Father?
John 14: 8. Philip saith unto him, Lord,

,.. 9. Jesus saith unto him, HAVE

The "oneness" between Christ and the father is not comparable to a man and his wife, for only a fool
would say "When you have seen me you have seen my wife, how sayest thou then, Shew us your wife?"
Notice they asked to see THE FATHER and the response was Jn 14:9 ..HAVE I BEEN SO LONG time
with you, and yet hast THOU NOT KNOW ME, Philip.....Now image some fool trying to claim that
statement if you asked to see his wife!?!!? The whole point to Christ statements is that he is the SAME
person as the father [you want to see the FATHER but have I been with you but you dont know
me!?!?!] because God is only one person not three different persons. Ironically, the father will in turn
identify the son as the father also.
Isaiah9:6. For unto us a child is born, unto us

A SON IS GIVEN:

NAME SHALL BE CALLED Wonderful, COUNSELLER, (See PART FIVE: this

and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and HIS

is the Holy Spirit) The mighty God,

THE EVERLASTING FATHER, ( Eph 4:6. One God AND Father of all)
THE PRINCE OF PEACE.

(Prince is a SON)

Isaiah 22:21. And I will clothe him with thy robe, and strengthen him with thy girdle, and I will commit thy government into his hand: and

SHALL BE A FATHER

HE

to the inhabitants of Jerusalem, and to the house of Judah. 22. And THE

KEY OF
THE HOUSE OF DAVID will I lay upon his shoulder; so SO HE SHALL OPEN AND NONE SHALL SHUT; and HE SHALL
SHUT AND NONE SHALL OPEN

This is Jesus !?!.................Rev 3: 7

These things saith he that is holy, he that is true, HE THAT HATH THE KEY OF
DAVID, he that OPENETH, AND NO MAN SHUTTETH, AND SHUTTETH AND NO MAN OPENETH;
. Rev 22:12. And, behold, I come quickly; and MY REWARD IS WITH ME, to give every man according as his work shall
be. 13. I AM ALPHA AND OMEGA, THE BEGINNING AND THE END, THE FIRST AND THE
LAST..16 I JESUS have sent mine angel to testify unto you these thingsRev 1: 8. I am Alpha and
Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, THE
ALMIGHTY..
1Cor 6:17. Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you.

WILL BE A FATHER UNTO YOU

18. And
saith the Lord Almighty.

, and ye shall be my sons and daughters,

AT THAT TIME they shall call Jerusalem the throne of the Lord; and all the nations SHALL BE GATHERED UNTO IT,
TO THE NAME OF THE LORD, (Rev 19:13/Ps 138:2 ;This is JESUS!?!..see also Ch 7 in the name of the
Jeremiah 3:17

IN THOSE DAYS
THOU
SHALT CALL ME, MY FATHER; ( Eph 4:6. One God AND Father of all)
father) to Jerusalem:18.

and shalt not turn away from me 19. ..and I said,

Many like to point to the fact that (as we shall see and examine further latter) Christ himself had a God
and a father (Rom 15:6;2Cor 1:3; 11:3;Eph 1:3; 4:6; 1 et al) as evidence that Christ was a different
person then God the father. However this is truly ironic because it proves their error not validates their
argument!?! There is only one coherent way in which son could be God but not the father and also
worship God and be less than the father but still both be the same one God and that is if they are both
parts of the same person (like a right arm and head) rather then a different persons. The fact they dont
see and or appreciate just how totally devastating their own argument is to itself would be humorous if it
were not so pathetically ignorant and woeful. The further we move into this study the more we shall
examine the differences between parts of the same individual person verses different individual persons.
But in short only part of your one person such as your right arm can be both you as well as not as great
as your head, only a part of you can be obedient to you (or God) while also being you (or God). Again,
ironically as we move through this study we will find that scriptures make the very same references!
So it is not about a great mystery of a awesome God, but rather faith in the words of a awesome God
who promised to send a strong delusion for those who would not receive the love of the truth. (2Thess
2:11)
1 Timothy 6:14 ..our Lord Jesus Christ's appearing, 15. which He will manifest in His own time, He WHO

ONLY

Potentate, the King of kings and LORD

OF LORDS, who

IS THE blessed and

ALONE HAS IMMORTALITY,

DWELLING IN UNAPPROACHABLE LIGHT, (James

1:17& 1John 1:5; alone; this includes

angles, any and all other persons, not just humans) whom no man has seen or can see, to whom BE HONOR and
EVERLASTING POWER. Amen..

Note, Jesus ALONE (no other person) has that immortality dwelling in unapproachable light. However,
Jesus is God and is the same person as the father so for a God with three different persons this poses
quite a dilemma for only the second person of the trinity has this immortality. It is pointless to argue
that this only refers to no other human person because the OT scriptures are quite clear that the son is the
father!?! The Father is speaking here stating (as we shall see) that The father (the head) will send His
right hand/arm and it will rule for the Father and in that day they will know that the servant that was
sent to them was the father because the right arm of a man who is made in the image of God is still the
same person as the head!?!?
The Consequence of Trinitarian theology if Jesus is a different father or different person then the father
and or Holy spirit will be fully demonstrated by the end of Ch 5. But take note of Jn 17;1-3 Mentioned
in the title to CH 1 and see also CONSISTENT COHERENCE: section in Ch 3.
Malachi 2:10 Have we not all

ONE FATHER?

hath not

ONE GOD ( Eph 4:6.

One God AND

Father of all..God is the father the Father is God;.Jesus is God Jesus is the father) created us? why do we deal
treacherously every man against his brother, by profaning the covenant of our fathers?

Take careful note that there is only ONE father just like there is only ONE God; Christ is not a different
kind of Creator father there is only ONE father! Jesus is the right hand of the father and as such is the
father in the same way that our right hands are still just our and only one person.
Mark 12:29 Jesus answered, "The most important is, 'Hear, O Israel:

THE LORD OUR GOD

, the Lord

IS ONE. (ONE = HEIS) ..............It states IS One..NOT "are one" as if the

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Lord were a plurality of persons....... While in the next verse it uses Are one The difference
being is that A. See PART SIX: on the Greek word used here in Mark 12 (the Greek word is
Heis only refers to one person) B In the next verse uses the Greek word Hen (Which also
refers to different parts of the same person; denotes a unity of function and purpose and does not
make any demands with respect to a number of persons. this is covered in Ch six) Further, Jesus
will be quoting himself in scriptures. Jesus Statement is a quote from a Scripture that was
inspired by Jesus himself while and when Jesus was yet in heaven and not yet having come to the
earth. However, when Jesus is on the earth speaking about himself in the flesh and the rest of
him (his head) in heaven Jesus uses the Are plural verb. Why? For the same reason shown in
PART FOUR: that Christ uses the third person pronoun he when referring to himself the
creator. (see also COMMENT #5 and Ch six on the significance of Heis & Hen for
expanded explanation)
John 10:30.

I AND MY FATHER ARE ONE ( ONE = HEN)

Scriptures use are here because the greek term translated as ONE here is HEN. This word
can denote multiple parts of the same body functions as ONE=HEN. While the Greek word
translated as one in the previous verse is Heis and it cannot be used in any way other then
ONE PERSON when speaking of persons or entities. When two terms equally apply they can
only do so in a way that they do not contradict each other. You cannot appeal to a contradiction
of terms to claim a valid argument for or against. Thus, what is denoted here in John 10 is not a
number of persons but simply a unity of function, purpose and or utility between the head and
the right arm of God. Further its use is true and used in the same reason that if my hand in a
leather glove came to the other gloves to communicate to you all about how to live, pray
worship, suffer and die for me, I would point to that part of me that was the head in heaven as the
greater part of me. The head (in heaven) is greater then the right hand (son) on the earth. Christ is
wanting them to focus on the spirit of God not the physical flesh of God. The physical flesh is
the sacrifice as Jesus said:
John 6:63. It is THE SPIRIT that quickeneth; THE
that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.

FLESH PROFITETH NOTHING: the words

Jesus is not trying to communicate some multiple people here with the verb are He is the same
person as the God in heaven but come in flesh speaking to men in flesh about himself in heaven.
Since there is a distinction between the father and the son the use of are is perfectly normal in
the same way that people might say me and my arm are not getting along right now we are
having fits It is not uncommon to men (who are made in the image of God) to refer to their
parts and measures in the third person or plural tense. We have already seen how that Jesus (who
is the creator) referred to the creator (Himself) in the third person Mat 19:4 he which made
them at the beginning made them male and femal,. The use of plural pronouns only indicates
distinctions but it does not demand different persons. Example I love my motorcycle we go
everywhere. There is a distinction between two things but they are not both persons. Another
example: I got BBQ in my mouth; my feet are in the water, and a cool breeze on my head, man
we are lovin it distinctions even in personal pronouns only demand ONE person. That is to say
in all the examples only one of the distinctions is an actual person the others are just parts or
other objects. This is important to know and understand that plural pronouns only demand a
single person in the object; they do not demand multiple persons. And this is why so many
people are so easily confused. When a text or statement uses a plural pronoun you must consult
the context and or the rest of the statement to ascertain how many persons. We, they and us can
all be used in reference to inanimate objects. So why do so many ignore the plain passages that
speak to the singularity of Gods person to demand a plurality of persons? That is not how the
words are used. They can refer to a plurality but they do not have to. Thus, the fact that the
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scriptures use plural pronouns tells you nothing about the number of persons of God!! Further, it
is of upmost hypocrisy for Trinitarians to point to the many instances where personal pronouns
are used for the Holy Spirit and for Christ and thus claim the use of a personal pronoun demands
one person but then turn right around and deny even with the even more numerous instances
(~7000) where personal pronouns are used for GOD . But Trinitarians are double minded
(James 1:8) if they were not then by the same reasoning, using the same personal pronouns, they
would have to argue even more strongly that God must be only one person! Trinitarians will
demand a singular individual person for the Holy Spirit because of personal pronouns is used for
the Holy Spirit, but deny that God is a singular individual person when the scriptures use the
same exact personal pronouns in many more instances for God!?!
God the Father is a person the Holy Spirit is a person, Jesus is a person, they are all THE SAME
PERSON. The head in heaven (father), right arm in flesh (son) and the rest of Gods spirit that we
have access to that is not the same part as the other two parts is the Holy spirit. They are all the
same singular ONE spirit of God projected and interacting with men in parts and in different
ways. Obviously and logically that part of the spirit of God which is connected to the flesh that
was born into this world is connected to that flesh in a way that the rest of the same spirit of God
is not. Ergo, the distinctions between the Father, Son and Holy spirit are distinctions in function
and of circumstance/condition of the various parts of God not differences in person!?! God is a
person, the Holy Spirit is a person, Jesus is a person...the same person!?! There are only
distinctions in the manifestations due to being in different kinds of universes ie spiritual &
physical and functioning differently in those all at the same time. Same HE or HIM but the HE
that is in heaven is also the He that is on earth but the HE on earth is subordinate and obedient to
the HE in heaven because the HE in heaven is the greater part of the HE that is on earth!?! The
him is the human that is formed when that part of the spirit of God gets connected to human
flesh in a way that the rest of the spirit of God is not connected to flesh. In all cases there is the
use of personal pronouns because while they are all the same person, they are in those different
states ("MODES" ergo: modalism). It is the different states that make the distinctions. God is not
human and does not live in the physical universe. Thus, the He that is in heaven is distinct (in
life form) from the Human (life form) that is on earth. However, in both the physical and spiritual
universe, the higher (Spirit not chained to human physical flesh) and lower (Spirit that is
chained to human physical flesh) forms/modes of existence, it is the same spirit and same person
in both. The different parts of God in those different universes (physical & spiritual) all referring
to each other not different persons!?! It is great folly to attempt to deny that God has different
parts of himself interacting in different ways at different times , because even in the nonsensical
Trinitarian construct of a single one being with three different persons would demand that those
three different persons be different parts to that one being of God . Of course there is no such
thing as a single being made up of multiple persons, except in the vain imaginations of
Trinitarians who coined that construct (cant find God describing that/ it is deduced via the
circular fallacies of Trinitarians) for the sole reason of denying the truth and pushing their lies.
Their damnation is just
On the other hand, some try to argue the oneness here in John 17:21; Jn 14:8-9 et al is like the
oneness between husband and wife however, when I look at you I do not see your wife, (they
were wanting to physically look at the father and Christ told them they were Jn 14:8-9 ;1 John
1:1-2) That comparison or attempt is not even logically equivalent or valid. . There is a oneness
in purpose that applies to ones head and hands and the verse that speak to the oneness between
the husband and wife is talking about a oneness in purpose or flesh not of person. No one is
questions the fact that the word one Can be used in different ways The point is about how
Christ uses it with respect to himself and the father. The "oneness" between Christ and the father
is not comparable to a man and his wife, for only a fool would say "When you have seen me you
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have seen my wife, how sayest thou then, Shew us your wife?" ...But that is what Christ said that
about himself and the father. Here, the oneness is of person not just purpose.
A common mistake that people often make with respect to statements and even the broader
context from which they come can be summed up in the following questions. well which is it?
Is He trying to say this (oneness of purpose) or is the author trying to say that (oneness of
person) ? The correct answer is that it is not a either/or answer but both are equally true and
both equally valid. This is covered more in Ch 5 of Heis and Hen.
- There is a oneness of purpose between the head and the right hand unless you have some
disability where it twitches and moves or not moves due to that lack of one in purpose or control
(the Dr Strangelove condition). There is no doubt that one in purpose would also apply to my
head and right hand. However, if in fact "God is one" only refers to oneness in purpose then
your admitting that you are a polytheist having three different persons who each are God because
you just destroyed the only reason you had for claiming you are a monotheist!...... Three persons
is by definition plurality of persons or Three persons not one person and thus three people who
are each God is by definition three gods not one God. You may confess till the cows come
home that three different persons are the same God and is monotheism all day long but the fact is
your either a fool or a liar but damned either way.
-There is also a oneness of person. In fact, the only scripture(s) that actually use the word
person with respect to God do so in the singular tense His person
Heb 1:3. WHO BEING the brightness of his glory, and

THE EXPRESS IMAGE OF HIS

PERSON

, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had BY HIMSELF purged our sins, SAT DOWN ON
THE RIGHT HAND OF THE MAJESTY ON HIGH;

Both are true and both are addressedBut you cant take one kind of oneness to eliminate the
other with..And neither can you take a verse (such as the oneness between a husband and
wife) that is not even addressing a number of persons but yet still try to use it to justify a
definition of multiple persons of God . This is particularly true since when scriptures specifically
speak and use the word "PERSON" of God not persons.....lean in us not to think beyond what is
written...Trinity is nowhere. The one person of God is what scriptures refer to specifically and
verbatim! Jesus is the image of Gods PERSON (singular), because man cant see God, for God
is a spirit. But they can see the flesh that God is animating in front of them with his own spirit.
Jesus cannot be another person. He is the person of God animating that flesh that they can now
see which is the express image of God . If I were a spirit and you could not see me and I put
my hand in a leather glove or like the old shows with the invisible man who puts on some cloths
or get powder all over him you only see his image in the physical cloths or glove or the powder
on him. In this case there is no way to see God for God is a spirit but we can see the flesh and
that flesh is the only person of the one spirit of God animating it. Seeing that flesh that the one
person of God was animating also goes back to the point mentioned before:
Some object appealing to the rational argument that if Father and son are the same person then
that would make Jesus is his own son. These kinds of objections are not just self contradicting
but they are in fact self-defeating. The irony is that they do not see the hypocrisy of their own
arguments?!?
(1) If there is only ONE GOD and the son is the same ONE God as the father, then YES
GOD's son is GOD Himself!?!? You cant have it both ways father and son are the same
ONE GOD but yet God is not his own son (the one god who is the son is not the same
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one God who is the father also) But that is exactly what the Trinitarian position is all
about, they are playing the hypocrite they need to be on both sides of the conversation
and terms they use. Jesus is one God who is NOT the same person so that the one
God does not have to be that one Gods own son. They need God to be multiple
different persons while at the same time claiming those different persons are only one
God. The irony is that, if there is ONLY ONE GOD and both son and father are the
SAME ONE GOD then yes God is also Gods son (God is himself, Gods own son) and
having multiple different persons of God will not make the conundrum disappear, it
only distracts you with persons on the one hand while the magician can conceal the fact
that God is himself the son of himself. Trinitarians attempt to play slight of hand trick in
that they want you to look at different persons so that God who comes is not the son of
himself while at the same time claiming father and son are the same one God!?! SO,
when you are asking who the son is they want you to see different persons, But when
your asking how many different gods there are they only want you to see one God. In
short they are distracting you with one hand while hiding their contradictions with their
other hand and play both sides of the fence in terms and concepts. In any case, if the son
of God is not himself (lf the same one God is not God's own son, or the son is not the son
of himself) then your God is not ONE of anything but rather you worship different gods
but simply call those different gods one god. It would be like trying to get around a law
that states you can only have one child (such as Chinas one child policy) by claiming
that the three different infants born to you are all just one toddler. ONLY A FOOL
WOULD BUY THAT ARGUMENT!?!
(2) Christ is our High priest as well as the sacrificial lamb of God, multiple simultaneous
roles are not difficult, for the omnipresent God. Jesus is a son by virtue of the physical
birth (Lk 1:31-32; Ps 2:7; 1Jn 4:9 ) It is superfluous even fallacious to insist on a second
person of God because a son must be a different person then a human father because
Jesus did not have a human father and God does not take a wife and have children like
men do ?!?! God via the angel told Mary that what was going to be born was to be
called the son of God, (NOTE: here in Heb it states I WILL BE TO HIM A FATHER,
AND HE SHALL BE TO ME A SON?) NOT because the servant/Right arm sent is a
different person then the father who sent his right arm/ My servant the son. Jesus is a
literal son by virtue of the birth into human flesh NOT by virtue of having a different
person then the father. Further, it is important to understand that there was no son of God
until the son was born however that part of God himself that He considers to be Gods
own hand / right arm (by which he created all things and would latter send via a physical
birth) had always existed. The fact that God has distinctions between father son and Holy
Spirit is not any more incomprehensible then a man with a head and right arm (that
comes to man via a physical birth ergo called the son of man & Son of God) and
a sprit that animates them all. One might be tempted to think that God actually intended
for us to understand his nature by using the very creation (even in the language and
terminology) that was made in that image. It appears that most everyone is looking at this
all backwards. God is referring to his right hand/Arm that he sent and put into flesh and
called his son/My servant. (because that right arm comes via physical birth) God is
NOT referring to a different person who is the son as His right hand as in he is my
right hand man!
(3) Take note (perhaps after the reader has gone through all of the material and
arguments here) of just how hypocritical the Trinitarians use of anthropomorphisms to
justify why God must be three different persons on the one hand, while in the same
breath denounce the very same anthropomorphisms when and where God claims to send
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that part of himself he considers to be his right arm born into the physical world via a
physical birth of a woman and calls that right hand his son. No the Trinitarian denounces
Christ own description of what was to be born that would be Called the son of God
(yes son of himself) on the one hand and as a result are left embracing the unnecessary
idea that God must be multiple different persons. So what God has clearly stated and
described (God in the spiritual universe will send that part of himself that he considers to
be his own right arm will be born into the physical world of human flesh) is just a figure
of speech or metaphor but what God specifically denounces (God specifically denounces
that he is multiple different persons) must be the truth that all men must accept
according to these Trinitarian heretics. What God describes is just a figure of speech not
to be taken too literally while the ideas that plainly contradict God must be accepted as
truth.
It would be fair to point out just how disgusting it is that Trinitarians will denounce what we shall see
going forward (the scriptural modalistic descriptions) as heresy in favor of the nonexistent constructs in
the face of their inconsistencies and incoherence while "punting" it all to its a mystery and then try to
pawn that bit of faithlessness off as pious piety!?!? How pathetic, they might as well cry out
"Allah Akbar" which is doubly ironic because:
(1) That is the polemical cry of another group of folks who when faced with their
inconsistencies and incoherence make
(2) That phrase means God is greatest which is the same empty nonsense for why we
should not deny trinity simply because it is incompressible. That battle cry is the only
real "argument" for why everyone should except the trinitairan nonsense because: God
is so great and past our understanding you know!?
Rom 1:20. For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are CLEARLY SEEN, being
UNDERSTOOD by the things that are made, EVEN HIS eternal power and GODHEAD; so that they are
WITHOUT EXCUSE:
As this will explore further, YES JESUS DID CLAIMED TO BE GOD SPECIFICLY ( However it is right to say
Jesus choose his words carefully because he did not want folks to focus on the flesh that was standing before them
but rather the spirit that was animating that flesh) The problem is that even most Christians either do not know or
do not care what GOD said about HIMSELF Ergo the heresy of trinity.. The Righteous Right Hand of the Lord
"HE COMETH"............ " NO REALY .'I AM HE'; ITS JUST ME!!".... The RIGHT ARM/HAND is what is
REVEALED, What is sent and comes to SAVE US, the SALVATION REAVEALD, that right arm comes and
gets THE VICTORY and will RULE. That right arm/hand IS "His RIGHTEOUS SERVANT" that God
MADE BARE and was LIFTED UP/EXALTED and thus BARE THE SINS of many !?!? This is the absolute
strongest case for the fact that yes, JESUS DID CLAIM TO BE GOD, COME IN THE FLESH!! When Jesus
states I AM HE that can could only be taken as saying I AM GOD because it was GOD who stated I AM HE, the
only savior who will come to save you in that day you will know I AM HE the speaker is God and Jesus is the
claimant of that statement very specifically and unambiguously. The servant to come is identified by the one who
sends that servant as HIMSELF!?!.....Trinitarians denounce modalism as a heresy but God uses by definition
modalism to specifically describe and define himself (the who and what would come to save man0 Jesus himself
lays claim to that mode and refers to these very same passages when he states except ye believe I am he ye will
die in your sins...If you do not accept the modalistic God that was Jesus you will die in your sins.. hello anybody
out there.

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What shall be demonstrated is the fact that while the Trinitarians will claim to have a pure and true love for God the
reality is that everything they profess is a denial of the modalism (and even the specific terms used in the text
demands that God is ONLY one person) that God specifically uses to describe himself.
.brings Prov 26:12 to mind
THE TRINITARAIN ONENESS
The following diagram depicts three different animals, three different humans and the Trinitarian result of
three different persons in a godhead (Three different persons who are each God is no different then three
different persons who are all Human or three different pets that are all animals ) Bill, Jack and Jill are three
different persons but "NOT ONE HUMAN BEING" (not one being).....Cat, Dog and Mouse are three
different pets each with their own "personality" , They are "NOT ONE ANIMAL"(not one being)...............To
claim that father son and holy spirit are three different persons is "NOT ONE ELOHIM".......nor is is ONE
GOD"..........Nor is it "ONE DIVINITY" .............Angels and demons are all called Elohim because ELOHIM
is a classification jus like HUMAN or ANIMAL. Thus, three different Elohim persons can never be anything
but a pantheon of Elohim gods for delusional pagans who pretend to be Christian. There is no such thing as
ONE BEING that is three different persons.
ELOHIM, HUMAN & ANIMAL are all classifications of life they are not names. Refer back to 8 for the proof
that many persons are called Elohim angels demons even dead people. The point of the chart should be very
clear unless you are confused by the linguistic contortions and acrobatics of the doctrine of trinity which all
things considered should not be so surprising since it is by definition "INCOMPREHENSIBLE" (incoherent
& inconsistent) It is no wonder then that the thinking of those who cannot grasp the significance here is also
"INCOMPREHENSIBLE" (incoherent & inconsistent) Running around calling three different cars ONE
VEHICLE or THE VEHICLE (GOD HEAD) does not force reality to conform to your "confessions (or
professions) of Faith". A person is a BEING but three different persons is NEVER considered a
being.....Likewise calling your three different god persons with different amounts of god knowledge wisdom
and authority ONE God is simply delusional. (2 Thess 2: 11) Three gods is not one god no matter how much
or how hard you confess it or want to believe that you only worship one God any more so then a prostitute,
who claims/ confessing (ad nauseum) that pagan worship and or immoral practices are not immoral and that
she denounces all forms of sexual immorality will not magically make the whoredom suddenly an expression
of "good works"!?!.....ONE animal is ONE being....ONE PERSON is ONE BEING. While there may be many
different animals or persons in the various different kinds of BEINGS the fact is that .just because there are
different kinds of being is not a logical argument for: therefore a being can be made up of different persons.
A "kind of BEING " is NOT the same as a BEING; one denotes TYPE or difference while the other denotes
NUMBER OF. These ANNOT be used synonymously!?! So to say that .there are many different persons who
are HUMAN BEING is NEVER a logical justification for therefore a human being (even "theoretically")
could be a reference to multiple different persons!?! ONE animal is ONE being (while animal is one type of
being)....ONE HUMAN/PERSON is ONE BEING(while human is one type of being) ONE Angel is one
Elohim which is ONE person which is ONE being.....These kinds of arguments hold no water and only shows
the lengths to which trinitarins will attempt at linguistic contortions to try to justify a incoherent and
heretical position at any and all cost of reason, logic or scripture et al ......

To have different persons each with their own unique spirit or person from the other two persons and
subservient to just one of those spirit-persons makes a hierarchy of god persons just like the Greek gods. The
only difference is limiting the number of these god persons to three as opposed to any other number in the
other pagan pantheon of gods. Simply, claiming no it is not a pantheon of gods. We confess God is one
nature/substance/being with three different persons (composing the god-head), simply moves the location of

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your pantheon from Mt Olympus up to heaven into Gods head (but the pantheon is still there, Further, having
multiple persons in one head is a mental illness it is not divine) !?! In any case, the hint should be in the
obvious question If Christ is Gods (belongs to God, subservient to God) and co equal with God, then Christ is
Gods what?? Correct Answer: His right arm that came in the flesh via a physical birth ergo called the son of
God. And His spirit that came to them in the flesh, all the same person.

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CHAPTER TWO:
.MY RIGHT ARM I SEND & HE COMES.LITTERALY, I AM HE & NO OTHER ITS
JUST ME!!
FOLLOW THE PRONOUNS

MY(THE SENDER) SERVANT(SENT)

I (THE
SENDER)
KNOW BELIEVE ME (THE SENDER)
UNDERSTAND I (THE SENDER) AM HE: (The I am he IS me) The Same
Isaiah 43:10.Ye are my witnesses, saith the Lord, and
HAVE CHOSEN: that ye may

WHOM

and

and

that

person who is speaking in this passage, sending his servant is claiming that HE is that servant that will
be sent!?! Yes there is a distinction between father and son just like there is between head and right arm
but in both cases the right arm and the head as well as the father and the son are still the same
person!!.....before me there was no God formed, neither shall there be after me. 11.

I, even I, am the Lord; and

BESIDE ME

THERE IS NO SAVIOUR

(THE SENDER)
(NOTE: Acts 4:12 there is none other
name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved...What is that name and who is it?..)
.. 13.

Yea, before the day was

I AM HE; (The I am he IS me)

Isaiah 43:10..that ye may

KNOW

Isaiah 43:10.. and

BELIEVE ME, (THE SENDER)

Isaiah 43:10.. and

UNDERSTAND

Isaiah 43:10.. that

I AM HE: (The I am he IS LITERALY me)

IF YE BELIEVE NOT I
AM HE, DIE IN YOUR SINS
WHEN
LIFTED UP
THEN
KNOW I AM HE,
John 8:24. I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for
ye shall

that

. 28. Then said Jesus unto them,

the Son of man,

shall ye

ye have

that

and that I do

nothing of

Some have asked where did Jesus specifically say "I AM GOD"...Ok, consider, If you ask me are
you the preacher I might say yea "I am he"; that is just a generic reference that could apply to
anything ....HOWEVER, Jesus is making specific scriptural references and laying claim to where
GOD himself claimed to be "I AM HE".....It was no different then if you ask someone right now
are you God? and they responded with "I AM HE" that would be same as them saying I AM
GOD......The reference Jesus uses is a specific reference to being God......When Christ lays claim
to I AM HE it was the same as saying God said about himself " I AM HE" and you need to
know and believe that I AM HE refers to me and as such is a specific claim to being God....!?!
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Lest the subtleties of what is being said here escape you let me speak plainly: The I am he IS
LITERALY the same person me that is going to send.
And

OH yea, GOD DAMN YOU IF YOU DO NOT BELIEVE IT!

That is not a wish for you, nor is it a curse upon you. Its just a fact; that's the way it is...
..Its that simple.
Isaiah 40: 9. O ZION, THAT BRINGEST GOOD TIDINGS, get thee up into the high mountain; O Jerusalem, that bringest good tidings, lift up thy voice

THE LORD
GOD WILL COME
HAND HIS(The Father) ARM (The
Servant that is sent) SHALL RULE FOR HIM: (The person speaking who sends
with strength; lift it up, be not afraid; say unto the cities of Judah, BEHOLD YOUR
with strong

GOD!

10. Behold,

and

His right arm to Rule) behold, HIS REWARD IS WITH HIM, (The him here is identified as the right arm
that shall come and rule; also Rev 22:12 my reward is with me) and his work before him.
The ARM of God is doing the ruling FOR the speaker here and coming with the reward (Aka 2nd
coming of Christ)..The NT tells us the reward is with Jesus (Rev 22:12; see also here Isaiah 62:11; Ps
98:2; ) but Isaiah tells us that it is the arm/ hand of the FATHER
Again note the speaker, who Identifies himself as Jehovah/Yahweh states that HE, Himself will
be pierced.
Zechariah 12:1. THE BURDEN of the word of the Lord FOR ISRAEL, saith the Lord, which stretcheth forth the heavens, and layeth the
foundation of the earth, and formeth the spirit of man within him. 2. Behold, I will make Jerusalem a cup of trembling unto all the people round
about, WHEN THEY SHALL BE IN THE SIEGE (Acts 2:16-21 & Joel 2:28 TO 3:1-3) both against Judah and against
Jerusalem.(Joel 3:1) 3. And IN THAT DAY will I make Jerusalem a burdensome 4. IN THAT DAY, saith the Lord. 6. IN THAT DAY
will I make the governors of Judah.8. IN THAT DAY shall the Lord defend the inhabitants of Jerusalem ; and he that is feeble among them
AT THAT DAY shall be as David; and THE HOUSE OF DAVID SHALL BE AS GOD, AS THE ANGEL OF THE LORD before them. 9.
And it shall come to pass IN THAT DAY, that I will seek to destroy all the nations that come against Jerusalem 10. And I WILL POUR
UPON THE HOUSE of David, and upon the inhabitants of Jerusalem, THE SPIRIT OF GRACE (Acts 2:16/Joel 2:28-ch3:1,2,12,16) and of

THEY SHALL LOOK UPON ME WHOM

THEY HAVE PIERCED, (
supplications: and

Rev 1:7) and THEY SHALL MOURN for him, as one mourneth for his

only son, and shall be in bitterness for him, as one that is in bitterness for his firstborn.11. IN THAT DAY,shall there be A GREAT

MOURNING IN JERUSALEM(Mat 24:30/ACTS 2:5; Amos 9:5; Rev 18:11;), as the mourning of Hadadrimmon IN THE
VALLEY OF MEGIDDON. (Rev 16:16 Har-Meggiddon) 12. And THE LAND SHALL MOURN, (Mat 24:30/ACTS 2:5; Amos
9:5; Rev 18:11;) every family apart; the family of the house of David apart, and their wives apart; the family of the house of Nathan apart, and
their wives apart;

This is not difficult to understand in the context of a head that performs one role while the right
arm of the same person fulfills a different role attached to flesh come into the physical world via
a birth. God is the God of the son of God as well as being the son of God, for the very reason that
it is different parts of the same person that is carrying out different roles and duties. Remember,
Jesus is not just our High priest (who went into the holy of holies to offer his own blood Heb
9:12) but he was also the very sacrificial Lamb of God that gave that blood up to the high priest.
Thus, multiple different simultaneous roles such as father and son as well as High priest and the
sacrificial lamb is not a difficulty for God but rather only a difficulty for the faith that men
fail to demonstrate. That is why they would rather give every explanation under the sun for who
the father and son are except for the very explanation that God himself Gives. They by their
doctrines and actions call God a liar because they do not believe that the father is the son even
though on the other hand they either ignore or confess that the son of God is God. So either God
is not one God or the alternative is all that is left, which is God is Gods own son!?! Of course
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that would make absolutely no sense if you speak of Father and son as two different persons but
it does make perfect sense if you understand that father and son are the distinction of PARTS of
the same Person who is God fulfilling different roles simultaneously. This is what the scriptures
describe and define for us. The father is that part of God that sends commands instructs and
teaches his own right arm born into human flesh ergo called son of God what to say and do. The
son of God is that part of God that God considers to be his own right arm that comes into the
physical world and connects to flesh in a way that the rest of God is not (like a hand in a leather
glove) .
Isaiah 48:12. Hearken unto me, O Jacob and Israel, my called;

MINE HAND

I AM HE

; I AM THE FIRST, I ALSO AM THE LAST. 13.

ALSO HATH LAID THE FOUNDATION of the earth, and

MY RIGHT HAND

I
THE LORD HATH LOVED HIM: (His own right arm is the HIM that
he have loved!: Jn 17:5,24-26; 15:9; ) HE
HIS ARM SHALL
BE CHALDEANS
HIM
HIM,
HE
HIS
hath spanned the heavens: when

call unto them, they stand up together. 14. All ye, assemble yourselves, and hear; which among them hath declared these

things?

will do his pleasure on Babylon, and

on the

. 15. I, even I, have spoken; yea, I HAVE CALLED

: I have brought

and
shall make
way prosperous. 16. Come ye near unto me, hear ye this; I have not spoken in secret from the beginning; from the time
that it was, there am I: and now the Lord God, and his spirit, hath sent me. 17. THUS SAITH THE LORD, thy Redeemer, THE HOLY ONE OF
ISRAEL; I AM THE LORD thy God which teacheth thee to profit, which leadeth thee by the way that thou shouldest go.
Isaiah 66:4. I ALSO WILL CHOOSE THEIR DELUSIONS, (2Thess 2:11). 14. And WHEN YE SEE THIS, YOUR HEART SHALL
REJOICE, and THE HAND OF THE LORD SHALL BE KNOWN TOWARD HIS SERVANTS, and HIS INDIGNATION TOWARD

HIS ENEMIES

.15. For, behold, THE LORD WILL COME WITH FIRE, . and his rebuke WITH FLAMES OF

FIRE.
Exodus 15:4. Pharaoh's chariots and his host hath he cast into the sea: his chosen captains also are drowned in the Red sea. 5. The depths have
covered them: they sank into the bottom as a stone. 6. THY RIGHT HAND, O Lord, IS BECOME GLORIOUS in power: THY RIGHT
HAND, O Lord, HATH DASHED IN PIECES

THE ENEMY.

Rev 2:27. And HE SHALL RULE THEM WITH A ROD OF IRON; as THE VESSELS OF A POTTER SHALL THEY BE
BROKEN TO SHIVERS: even as I received of my Father.

God is speaking of his own right arm (and even personifies that right arm with the personal pronouns
HE, HIS and HIM) that will come to save man that will come to rule over man but that right arm
will come into flesh formed to be the servant the man Jesus. Thus Jesus is nothing but that part of God
that God considers to be his right arm that comes into human flesh. God speaks of his right arm that
would come in the third person HIM in the same way that people do about their own parts of their
body not because it is a different person then the speaker. The speaker here point blank identifies that it
is himself that is coming, that is will be his own right arm that comes to be the servant of the God who
sends his right arm to man in the form of human and in flesh.. The speaker identifies himself as the I
AM HE as well as identifies himself as the HOLY ONE OF ISRAEL who would come via his own
right hand to man. To hold to the doctrine that the first person sent a second or different person to save
man is heresy. His right arm IS His manifested in the flesh servant to come that would save!?!
Isaiah 49:2. And he hath made my mouth like a sharp sword; in the shadow OF HIS HAND HATH HE HID ME, and made me a Polished shaft; in his
quiver hath he hid me; 3. And said unto me, THOU ART MY SERVANT, O ISRAEL, in whom I will be glorified. 4. Then I said, I have laboured in vain,
I have spent my strength for nought, and in vain: yet surely my judgment is with the Lord, and my work with my God.

TO BE HIS SERVANT

5. And now, saith the Lord that FORMED ME from the womb
, (that right arm is
coming and will be formed in flesh to be the servant of God, your right hand is with you and it is you,
it can only know and do what you your head tell it to do, It is obedient to you and yet it is you or coequal
with the rest of you. This is the nature of God. Trinity of God in three different persons is not jut heresy

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but blasphemy and pagan idolatry!!) to bring Jacob again to him, Though Israel be not gathered, yet shall I be glorious in the eyes of the
Lord, and my God shall be my strength. 6. And he said, It is a light thing that thou shouldest be my servant to raise up the tribes of Jacob, and to restore the
preserved of Israel: I will also give thee for a light to the Gentiles, that THOU MAYEST BE MY SALVATION unto the end of the earth. 7. Thus saith the
Lord, the Redeemer of Israel, AND HIS HOLY ONE, to him whom man despiseth, to him whom the nation abhorreth, to a servant of rulers, Kings shall see
and arise, princes also shall worship, because of the Lord that is faithful, and THE HOLY ONE OF ISRAEL, and he shall choose thee. 8. Thus saith the
Lord, In an acceptable time have I heard thee, and in a day of salvation have I helped thee: and I will preserve thee, and give thee for a covenant of the
people, to establish the earth, to cause to inherit the desolate heritages; 9. That thou mayest say to the prisoners, Go forth; to them that are in darkness, shew
yourselves. They shall feed in the ways, and their pastures shall be in all high places. 10. They shall not hunger nor thirst; neither shall the heat nor sun
smite them: for he that hath mercy on them shall lead them, even by the springs of water shall he guide them. 11. And I will make all my mountains a way,
and my highways shall be exalted.

Isaiah 52:1. .. 6.Therefore MY PEOPLE SHALL KNOW MY NAME: therefore they shall know

AM HE

that doth speak: behold,

BRINGETH GOOD TIDINGS,.. 10.

IT IS I.

IN THAT DAY I
that

7. HOW BEAUTIFUL UPON THE MOUNTAINS ARE THE FEET OF HIM THAT

THE LORD HATH

MADE BARE HIS HOLY ARM

(Christ is what was and in this very context that which was made
bare or made manifested of God!?!?! EXPRESS IMAGE of the person [singular] invisible God Heb 1:13; 1 Tim 3:16; 1Peter 1:20; 1Jn 1:2; 3:5&8 [note son by virtue of the physical birth Lk 1:31-32; Ps
2:7; 1Jn 4:9])
IN THE EYES OF ALL THE NATIONS;

Psalms 98:1. O SING UNTO THE LORD A NEW SONG; (Revelation

Ch 5:9 & 15:3) for he hath done marvellous things:

HIS RIGHT HAND, HIS HOLY ARM, (Christ is that right hand
and

and holy arm of God that god used to create all things in the same way we do with our right hand

HATH GOTTEN HIM

and arm)
(The person speaking who sends His right
arm) THE VICTORY. (1Cor 15:52-57 Take note the right arm [which is Jesus} got the victory!!. Jesus
Got the victory for us and for God because Jesus is nothing but the right arm of God come in the

MADE KNOWN HIS SALVATION

flesh) 2. The Lord hath

: (Lk
2:20..JESUS!?!?) his righteousness hath he openly shewed IN THE SIGHT OF THE HEATHEN. (Rom 16:25-28) .. 7.

Let the
sea roar, and the fulness thereof; the world, and they that dwell therein. 8. LET THE FLOODS CLAP THEIR HANDS: let the hills be joyful
together 9. Before THE LORD: FOR HE COMETH, TO JUDGE THE EARTH: WITH RIGHTEOUSNESS SHALL HE JUDGE THE
WORLD AND THE PEOPLE WITH EQUITY.

Psalms 118:16

THE RIGHT HAND

of the LORD is

EXALTED (lifted up John

12:32 And I, if I be lifted up from the earth, will draw all men unto me 33. This he said,
signifying what death he should die.):

THE RIGHT HAND

of the LORD DOETH

VALIANTLY. 22 THE STONE WHICH THE BUILDERS REFUSED IS BECOME THE HEAD STONE OF THE
CORNER..This

is ALL about the Christ ( Lk 24:44and IN THE PSALMS, concerning me.)

IF YE BELIEVE NOT I AM
HE, DIE IN YOUR SINS
WHEN LIFTED UP
THEN
KNOW I AM HE,
John 8:24. I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for
ye shall

man,

that

. 28. Then said Jesus unto them,

shall ye

that

Isaiah 53: 1. Who hath believed our report? and to whom is

ye have

the Son of

and that I do

THE ARM OF THE LORD

REVEALED?

...............8. He was taken from prison and from judgment: and who shall declare his generation? for he was cut off out
of the land of the living: FOR THE TRANSGRESSION OF MY PEOPLE WAS HE STRICKEN. 9. And he made his grave with the wicked, and with
the rich in his death; because he had done no violence, neither was any deceit in his mouth. 10. Yet it pleased the Lord to bruise him; he hath put him to
grief: when thou shalt make his soul an offering for sin, he shall see his seed, he shall prolong his days, and the pleasure of the Lord shall prosper in his

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hand. 11. He shall see of the travail of his soul, and shall be satisfied: by his knowledge shall

SERVANT

MY RIGHTEOUS

JUSTIFY MANY; for he shall bear their iniquities. 12. Therefore will I divide him a portion with the great, and he shall

divide the spoil with the strong; because he hath poured out his soul unto death: and he was numbered with the transgressors; and

BARE THE SIN OF MANY

HE

, AND MADE INTERCESSION FOR THE TRANSGRESSORS.

Isaiah 41:10. Fear not, for I am with you; be not dismayed, for I am your God. I will strengthen you, yes, I WILL HELP YOU, I will uphold
you WITH

MY RIGHTEOUS RIGHT HAND

.'

Jesus is the one God but is also the son of the same one God
Jesus is the one God But also the servant of the same one God
Jesus is the one God But also loves/is loved by the same one God
Jesus is the one God But also not as great as the same one God et al ad fin
This is only Coherent taking Jesus, the savior and ruler as the right arm, at literal face value. To ascribe
God to three different persons makes a pantheon of different gods as well as creates contradictions and
oxymorons simply ignoring these facts and calling it your faith in God only demonstrates 2Thess
2:11. It does not make you pious and faith-filled!?!
Exodus 15:4. Pharaoh's chariots and his host hath he cast into the sea: his chosen captains also are drowned in the Red sea. 5. The depths have

THY RIGHT HAND,

IS BECOME
THY RIGHT HAND,
HATH DASHED IN PIECES THE

covered them: they sank into the bottom as a stone. 6.

GLORIOUS in power:
ENEMY.

O Lord,

O Lord,

Rev 2::27. And HE

SHALL RULE THEM WITH A ROD OF IRON; as THE VESSELS OF A POTTER

SHALL THEY BE BROKEN TO SHIVERS: even as I received of my Father.
Isaiah 66:4. I ALSO WILL CHOOSE THEIR DELUSIONS, (2Thess
REJOICE, and YOUR BONES SHALL FLOURISH like an herb: and

2:11). 14.

And WHEN YE SEE THIS, YOUR HEART SHALL

THE HAND OF THE LORD

THE LORD WILL
SHALL BE KNOWN

TOWARD HIS SERVANTS, and HIS INDIGNATION TOWARD HIS ENEMIES.15. For, behold,

COME WITH FIRE, (again this is a reference to Jesus!?!?..2Thess 1:8)

and with his chariots like

a whirlwind, to render his anger with fury, and his rebuke WITH FLAMES OF FIRE..

The right arm-Jesus is coming with fire, not a different person; a distinction is NOT a different person.
Psalms makes the same point that the right arm of the person who sends his own right arm, is the same
person that comes to save. The right arm is the savior. Man is made in the image of God. Your right
arm is a distinction from your head or the rest of you but it is NOT a different person!?!
Isaiah 62:8

THE LORD HATH

SWORN BY HIS RIGHT HAND, AND BY

THE ARM OF HIS STRENGTH, .

THY SALVATION COMETH; BEHOLD,
HIS REWARD IS WITH HIM, (This is Jesus the right arm of God not a

11. Behold, THE LORD HATH PROCLAIMED UNTO THE END OF THE WORLD,

Say ye to the daughter of Zion, Behold,

different person then the father!?!)

Take note of the Fact that the book of Revelation is recorded by the apostle John also!?!
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MY REWARD IS WITH ME
I AM ALPHA AND OMEGA, THE BEGINNING AND THE END, THE

Rev 22:12. And, behold, I come quickly; and

according as his work shall be. 13.

, to give every man

FIRST AND THE LAST.

BECAUSE HE COULD
SWEAR BY NO GREATER, HE SWARE BY
HIMSELF,
Heb 6:13. For when GOD

MADE PROMISE to Abraham,

God swore (and showed us how to live, pray, suffer and die) by His right hand and arm which is
himself! In the same way that my right arm and hand are myself even though I am still greater
then either my hand or my arm and they too can only communicate what I tell them to. Since
man is made in the image of God you would think that folks would want to start with that
concept to apply first, rather then invoking the number three or the word Trinity entirely
unnecessarily, into a God that is quite clear about the fact that He is only one person..My right
hand IS me and is WITH me (Jn 1:1)..WOW, imagine that!?!? Distinctions are not multiple
persons. The fact that God has distinctions between father son and holy spirit is not any more
incomprehensible then a man with a head and right arm and a sprit that animates them all. One
might be tempted to think that God actually intended for us to understand his nature by using the
very creation (even in the language and terminology) that was made in that image. It appears that
most everyone is looking at this all backwards. God is referring to his right hand that he sent and
put into flesh as his son. (because that right arm comes via physical birth) God is NOT referring
to a different person who is the son as His right hand as in he is my right hand man! You cant
claim to believe that "I am HE" if you believe in the trinity because Trinity holds God in three
different persons who are each God ...so to you Jesus is not HE but "some other person" sent
by HIM (the first person) !?! Lk 1: 35 that HOLY THING which shall be born of thee shall be
CALLED the Son of God .......What is that "Holy Thing"?? (Heb 1:5 And again, I will be to
him a Father, and he shall be to me a Son?)...The scriptures insist that God sent a part of Himself
(His one person) that God calls his right arm, God also called that same part of himself the word
of God . He also called that same part of himself the lamb of God, into flesh born of a women
ergo son of God. This is the logical demand of the scriptures. The scriptures refer to the one that
was coming and in that day they would know that God had sent his right arm to them and they
would know that "I AM HE. Your right arm is you it is fully you but it is not all there is to you.
The father is greater then the son in the same way that the head is greater then the right arm, man
is made in the image of God and God uses that very image of his creation to describe His own
nature. How comprehensible is that.!?! Therefore, except that you believe that Jesus is the right
arm which is also the same person as the father you will die in your sins and your damnation will
be just!
God is swearing by Himself the part of Himself (right hand/ arm) that was used to create all
things. Likewise and In the same way that we can ask the same question In the next passage and
get the same answer. We could also ask the question who is God swearing to?.....God as one
person (the only high and great person) or swearing to and by Himself because there is nothing
else in creation higher or greater then that right hand and arm that created all things.. The
scriptures are quite plain here God is swearing by his own right arm which is HIMSLEF!!!. Like
wise the following should not be too difficult even for simple minded men to understand.. There
is no point to try to argue that this is just an analogy because after all there is little difference
between appendages and attributes. Except for the fact that one is how the scriptures refer to the
nature and the other is a Trinitarian escape-goat.
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Man is made in the image of God and God uses these exact terms to describe and define his
nature. You right arm is distinct from your head...It is with you and it is you....Your head is
greater then your right arm (the father is greater then I).....your right arm can only know, do and
communicate what your head tells it to, (Jn 8:28) unless it feels pain and then it lets the head
know..."i do not like this"...so the hand wants to pull away from the needle but your head tells it
no stay there it if for the best. (not my will but thy will be done) Jesus is nothing more then that
part of God that God considers to be his right arm come in the flesh. How curious that everyone
seems to have never read or heard (certainly never meet the metric of know and understand)
that God states he is going to send his right arm and in that day they would know "I am he".
Take note, the speaker who is going to SEND his right arm states that it is HIMSELF that is
coming; in another passage the speaker who is going to SEND a servant states that it is
HIMSELF. The person who sends the servant is the servant that comes. Your right arm does the
bidding of your head and by your right arm all things that you make are created also. When I sit
down my right hand (an object) is at my right hand" (a location). Take a look at the diagrams in
Chapter six which conceptualizes the whole idea of "where God is". There are many other things
we shall continue to explore in this study and once you see it you should realize just how simple
it all really is. Then your next question will be how come then so few or almost no one ever saw
all this before; to which i suggest (A) a few have (B) 2 Thess 2:10-11........................
How "Ironic (hypocritical) that Trinitarians will try to deny the scriptures use of God literally
sending His right arm (even ridiculing that) because of its Anthropomorphic implications and yet
that is the exact bases for all Trinitarian arguments. It is the anthropomorphic descriptors that the
Trinitarian hypocrites try to use as reasons for arguing a demand for multiple/three different
persons of God (ie. had to be multiple persons so that God was not praying to himself et al. The
Question must be asked, How many other Gods is there for the one God to pray [or swear]
to?!?! God could swear by no greater then Himself, nor could their be any higher authority to
hold God to his own oath...!?!) God is one person who only sent a part of himself called his right
arm via a physical birth ergo called his son to teach us how to live pray, suffer and die to
HIMSELF!?!....well, he certainly did not come to teach us how to pray and die to some other
god????..... If God is one God the of course he was praying to himself. However, if one person
who is God is praying to anther more powerful person who is also God, then God is not one
God . .(And then you are either a outright fool or lying to yourselves in claiming you worship
one God)... These fools will walk right into the fire of hell thinking they are honoring God . I
NEVER knew youget ready for it, your turn is coming soon enough so get your Shocked
and surprised face all ready to go. Your theology is utter foolishness and hypocrisy. It is justly
fitting that just like those wrestling entertainers (actors) who so eloquently perform their fake
faces of surprise and shock, that you prepare yours for the real thing because of your acting
(hypocrisy)!. Your damnation is just!

CAUSE THEM TO KNOW

MY NAME

Jeremiah 16:21. Therefore, behold, I will this once cause them to know, I will

MINE HAND

and my might; and they shall know that

is The Lord.

. THEY PROFESS THAT THEY KNOW GOD;

BUT IN WORKS THEY DENY HIM
Titus 1:16

, being abominable, and disobedient, and unto

every good work reprobate.

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Proverbs 30:4 WHO HAS ASCENDED INTO HEAVEN, OR DESCENDED? Who has gathered the wind in His fists? Who has bound the

WHAT IS HIS NAME, AND

WHAT IS HIS SONS NAME,
waters in a garment? Who has established all the ends of the earth?

If you know?

Isaiah 53: 1. Who hath believed our report? and to whom is

THE ARM OF THE LORD

REVEALED?

...............8. for he was cut off out of the land of the living: FOR THE TRANSGRESSION OF MY

PEOPLE WAS HE STRICKEN. 11. He shall see of the travail of his soul, and shall be satisfied: by his knowledge shall

MY
HE

RIGHTEOUS SERVANT
BARE THE SIN OF MANY
THE WORD WAS WITH GOD,
AND THE WORD WAS GOD

JUSTIFY MANY; for he shall bear their iniquities. 12. . and

, AND MADE INTERCESSION FOR THE TRANSGRESSORS.

John 1:1. In the beginning was the Word, and

2. The same was in the beginning with God.

Rev 19:13 And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and

HIS NAME IS CALLED

THE WORD OF GOD;

Psalms 138:1. I Will praise thee with my whole heart: BEFORE THE GODS WILL I SING PRAISE UNTO THEE. 2. I will worship

THOUS HAS
MAGNIFIED THY WORD ABOVE ALL THY
NAME.
toward thy holy temple, and praise thy name for thy lovingkindness and for thy truth: for

Understand all of this is NOT just some abstract philosophical discourse on how the author chooses to
understands or see the nature of God. No, on the contrary. This here is exposing the Trinitarians
philosophical impositions onto scriptures, facts and sound or common sense reasoning showing how
they twist the scriptures to their own destruction in spite of what the scriptures clearly and plainly teach.
The truth of this matter IS SIMPLE , what is complex and complicated is all the twisting, distortions,
contortions and outright lying that Trinitarians do knowingly or ignorantly that have to be worked
through so as to untangle the incoherent blob of a mess they have created and still to this day
perpetuate very successfully..

CHAPTER THREE:
Rom 1:20. For THE INVISIBLE THINGS OF HIM from the creation of the world ARE CLEARLY SEEN, being understood by the things that are
made, EVEN HIS eternal power and GODHEAD; so that THEY ARE WITHOUT EXCUSE:

NT- John 1 Jesus WAS God and was WITH God.(your right arm is you and is with you)
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OT- The RIGHT ARM of God the Father is the Savior , the I AM HE that Father was going to send to
save man
NT- Jesus the savior came and was to come again with fire and as shown previously rule for God;.
TAKE NOTE OF: I AM HE ; IT IS I; HAND ARM SWORN SHALL BE TO ME A SON
Isaiah 62:1. 2. And THE GENTILES shall see thy righteousness, and all kings thy glory: and THOU SHALT BE CALLED BY A NEW NAME, (Rev
3:12) which the mouth of THE LORD SHALL NAME. ... 8.

THE LORD HATH SWORN

BY HIS RIGHT

HAND, AND BY THE ARM OF HIS STRENGTH, .

THY SALVATION
COMETH; BEHOLD, HIS REWARD IS WITH HIM, (This is
11. Behold, THE LORD HATH PROCLAIMED

UNTO THE END OF THE WORLD, Say ye to the daughter of Zion, Behold,

Jesus the right arm of God not a different person then the father!?!) and his work before him. 12.

And they shall call them,

The holy people, The redeemed of the Lord: and THOUR SHALT BE CALLED, SOUGHT OUT, A CITY NOT FORSAKEN.

Take note of the Fact that the book of Revelation is recorded by the apostle John also!?!

MY REWARD IS WITH ME
I AM ALPHA AND OMEGA, THE BEGINNING AND THE END, THE

Rev 22:12. And, behold, I come quickly; and

according as his work shall be. 13.

, to give every man

FIRST AND THE LAST.

The reward of God comes with and when the Right arm of God returns with it.that Right arm came in
the flesh the first time to die to that flesh for us and would return to rule for God. Your right arm is with
you and it is you but it is NOT a different person then your head although it is distinct from your head
and the rest of you.
Rev 1:8.

I AM ALPHA AND OMEGA, THE BEGINNING AND THE ENDING,

THE ALMIGHTY.

saith the Lord, which is, and

which was, and which is to come,

Jesus is the PERSON speaking in the book of Revelation and Identifies himself as THE
ALMIGHTY not a lesser person in some imaginary three headed God. Rev 22:16 I JESUS have
sent mine angel to testify unto you these things
Deuteronomy 32:39. See now that I, even

I, AM HE

, and there is no god with me: I kill, and I make alive; I wound, and I heal:

NEITHER IS THERE ANY THAT CAN DELIVER OUT

OF MY HAND

. 40. For I lift up my hand

to heaven, and say, I live for ever. 41. If I whet my glittering sword, and mine hand take hold on judgment; I will render vengeance to mine
enemies,

AND WILL REWARD THEM THAT HATE ME.

(Luke 19:27 note the context is the 2nd coming of Jesus; Jesus is the right arm of the ONE
PERSON who is God and that right arm is what came the first time to die for us and then again
the second time to render vengeance, and rule for God. The right arm is a distinction of one
person. Your right arm only knows and communicates what you give it to know and do but it is
NOT another or different person. The right arm is a distinction from your head but not a different
person.) 42. I will make mine arrows drunk with blood, and my sword shall devour flesh; and that with the blood of the slain and of the
captives, from the beginning of revenges upon the enemy. 43. Rejoice, O ye nations, with his people: for he will avenge the blood of his servants,
AND WILL RENDER VENGEANCE TO HIS ADVERSARIES, and will be merciful unto his land, and to his people.

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Isaiah 66:4. I ALSO WILL CHOOSE THEIR DELUSIONS, (2Thess

REJOICE, and YOUR BONES SHALL FLOURISH like an herb: and

2:11)

. 14. And WHEN YE SEE THIS, YOUR HEART SHALL

THE HAND OF THE LORD

THE LORD WILL
SHALL BE KNOWN

TOWARD HIS SERVANTS, and HIS INDIGNATION TOWARD HIS ENEMIES.15. For, behold,

COME WITH FIRE, (again this is a reference to Jesus!?!?..2Thess 1:8)

and with his chariots like

a whirlwind, to render his anger with fury, and his rebuke WITH FLAMES OF FIRE..

The right arm is Jesus or God come in the flesh, It not a different person! A distinction is NOT a
different personPsalms makes the same point the Right arm of God is what comes to savethe right
are is the savior Man is made in the image of God your right arm is a distinction from your head or the
rest of you but it is NOT a different person!?! (NOTE: GOD CAN BE UNDERSTOOD BY THE THINGS
THAT ARE MADE. MAN IS THE VISIBLE IMAGE AND LIKENESS MAKING THE INVISIBLE GOD
CLEARLY SEEN AS IN ROMANS 1:20)
Isaiah 52:1. .. 6.Therefore MY PEOPLE SHALL KNOW MY NAME: therefore they shall know

AM HE

IN THAT DAY I
that

IT IS I.

that doth speak: behold,

7. HOW BEAUTIFUL UPON THE MOUNTAINS ARE THE FEET OF HIM THAT
BRINGETH GOOD TIDINGS, THAT PUBLISHETH PEACE; THAT BRINGETH GOOD TIDINGS OF GOOD, THAT PUBLISHETH
SALVATION; that saith unto Zion, Thy God reigneth! .. 10.

THE LORD HATH

MADE BARE HIS

HOLY ARM IN THE EYES OF ALL THE NATIONS; (Christ is what was and in this very context
that which was made bare or made manifested of God!?!?! EXPRESS IMAGE of the person [singular]
invisible God Heb 1:1-3; 1 Tim 3:16; 1Peter 1:20; 1Jn 1:2; 3:5&8 [note son by virtue of the physical
birth Lk 1:31-32; Ps 2:7; 1Jn 4:9]) and ALL THE ENDS OF THE EARTH SHALL SEE THE SALVATION of our God; 11. DEPART
YE, DEPART YE, GO YE OUT FROM THENCE, touch no unclean thing; GO YE OUT OF THE MIDST OF HER; BE YE CLEAN,
(Jerusalem/Babylon Rev 18:14. Come out of her, my people.) that bear the vessels of the Lord. 12. For ye shall not go out with haste, nor go by flight: for
the Lord will go before you; and GOD

OF ISRAEL WILL BE YOUR REREWARD. (See

Rev 1:9 section on the kingdom

the spirit of God is the kingdom and hence their reward)

THIS DAY HAVE I BEGOTTEN

THEE?
I WILL BE TO HIM A FATHER, AND HE
SHALL BE TO ME A SON?
WHEN HE BRINGETH IN THE
Heb 1:5. For unto which of the angels said he at any time, Thou art my Son,
And again,

6. And again,

FIRSTBEGOTTEN INTO THE WORLD

It is hypocritical argument that denies the literal arm of God that comes (called the son because
of the physical birth into flesh ergoson of man) and insist that there be a second person of
God based on the fact that human sons must be a different person then their human father even
though Jesus did not have a human father and God does not take a wife and have children like
man do!?! Jesus is a son by virtue of the physical birth Lk 1:31-32; Ps 2:7; 1Jn 4:9 of God
coming into the physical universe via a physical birth, NOT because you want to assume that
God must procreate or always existed in the same plurality that the human fathers and human
sons that he created. What is even more curiously hypocritical is the fact that according to the
Trinitarian reasoning, God is not capable of being only one person in three parts. NO NO,
however, on the other hand they are quick to point to how great God, past our human
understanding and our limited feeble minds He is as the reason for why we should just accept
that God can be one being with three different persons as a god-head. The coherent and
consistent approach to the one person godhead is thrown out in favor of the incomprehensible
three person God because God is so great he could do that. They will say we dont have to
understand it because we cant and must not put limits on God. However, on the other hand, they
will deny that God is great enough to be only be one person who is the father and the same
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person who is the son and the same person who is the holy spirit (even though that is how he
describes himself.) God is not great enough to be and do that. In any case, the Trinitarians treat
their god to only be as great and incomprehensible in the way and for the reason they imagine the
God to be. Trinitarinas have no difficulty seeing (never mind they also claim it is impossible to
fully understand) that God is three different persons (with three different minds and or three
different locations with different amounts of knowledge, power and authority that send each
other around) but they cannot, will not accept and would fiercely deny and claim that it is
impossible for one God with one person, could just have three different bodies (He occupies) of
all the same person!?! You see God is only as Great and incomprehensible in the way and for
they reasons that they say God is past (your) feeble human understanding, but they in their
humility, humbly accept that fact; and be damned what anyone or any scriptures have to
say otherwise about it.
CONSISTENT COHERENCE:

FATHER

John 17:1. These words spake Jesus, and lifted up his eyes to heaven, and said,
, the hour is come; glorify thy Son, that thy Son
also may glorify thee: 2. As thou hast given him power over all flesh, that he should give eternal life to as many as thou hast given him. 3.And this is life
eternal, that they might know

THEE THE ONLY TRUE GOD

, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.

Notice it does not say thee and Jesus, it states thee only. Thus, IF you hold to the Idea that Jesus and
father are different persons (rather then Jesus is the same person as the father but distinct in
portion/manifestation/right arm of the same person) then:
(1) The distinction between the THEE (person) which is the father (person) here and Jesus,
(person) eliminates Jesus as God. So while the distinction between father and son what
Trinitarians use to demand that Jesus must be a different person then the father, that same logic
would then prevent even demand that Jesus is not and cannot be God. Because the person of
Jesus in this verse is distinct from the person of the father and the person of Jesus states
emphatically that the father person in this verse is ONLY and the ONLY TRUE GOD, Further,
Jesus would be relegated to just someone that the father person who is the only God sent. ..
(God as different persons results in HERESY!)
(2) The same language is also used in John 1:14. And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his
glory, the glory as of THE ONLY BEGOTTEN OF THE FATHER,) If only begotten of the father
means that Christ is the ONLY son of God then likewise THEE THE ONLY TRUE GOD
demands that the father person alone is the only God and would exclude the Jesus person from
being God also and then the Islamic interpretation of that verse would be correct in that God via
his word spoke the Man Jesus into existence into Marys womb such that Jesus is simply a
created man that the FATHER who is the ONLY TRUE GOD sent. Again, it does not say thee
and Jesus, it states thee (the father) only(The denial of the divinity of Christ is HERESY!)
The Only consistent and coherence way to correctly understand this dilemma (for the Trinitarians and
the Jesus divinity deniers) is to accept the word of God (pun intended) that God sent a part of Himself
that God considers to be His own right arm into flesh and called that man (the product of spirit
animating human flesh that was born a natural birth via that part of God himself that he put into that
flesh) His ONLY BEGOTTON SON. The head (father person) controls the right arm (John 5:19-20)
that was sent into flesh (the son Jesus, same person different appendage)
God via the angel told Mary that what was going to be born was to be called the son of God (Lk
1:32/Heb 1:5)there was no son of God until he was born however that part of God himself that He
considers to be his hand / right arm by which he created all things and would latter send via a physical
birth had always existed. However, the Trinitarian God is sooo great and magnificent, beyond
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comprehension but sadly God is not so great enough to call that right arm born into the physical world
His own son. God as great as He is could not be His own son even though if the son of the one God
(that right arm of God come in the flesh) is not the same one God that sent that son (right arm) then God
is not one God. but dont let the truth, reason and scriptures get in the way of your damnable heresies.

IF YE BELIEVE NOT I
AM HE, DIE IN YOUR SINS
WHEN
LIFTED UP
THEN
I AM HE,
John 8:24. I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for
ye shall

that

. 28. Then said Jesus unto them,

the Son of man,

myself; but as my Father hath taught me, I speak these things.

ye have

shall ye know that

and that I do nothing of

John 8:24-28 with Isaiah .. You cant claim to believe that "I am HE" if you believe in the
trinity because Trinity holds God in three different persons who are each God ...so to you Jesus is
not HE but some other person sent by a different person Him"!?!

THE RIGHT HAND

EXALTED

of the LORD is
(lifted
up John 12:32 And I, if I be lifted up from the earth, will draw all men unto me 33. This
Psalms 118:16

he said, signifying what death he should die.):

THE RIGHT HAND

of the

LORD DOETH VALIANTLY. 22 THE

STONE WHICH THE BUILDERS REFUSED IS BECOME

THE HEAD STONE OF THE CORNER..This is ALL about the Christ ( Lk 24:44and
IN THE PSALMS, concerning me.)
Ps 10:12. Arise, O Lord;

O GOD,

LIFT UP THINE HAND:

forget not the humble.

Isaiah 46:3. Hearken unto me, O house of Jacob, and all the remnant of the house of Israel, which are borne by me from the belly, which are carried from

I AM HE;

the womb: 4. And even to your old age

and even to hoar hairs will I carry you: I have made, and I will bear; even I will carry,
and will deliver you. 5. To whom will ye liken me, and make me equal, and compare me, that we may be like?
Isaiah 41:4. Who hath wrought and done it, calling the generations from the beginning? I the Lord, THE

1:11)

FIRST, and with THE LAST; (Rev

I AM HE.

Isaiah 48:12. Hearken unto me, O Jacob and Israel, MY CALLED (Gal
THE FIRST, I ALSO AM THE LAST.
the earth, and

(Rev 1:8,11)

13.

3:7,29; Acts 2:29; Jn 10:26-27;

MINE HAND

MY RIGHT HAND

I AM HE

; I AM

ALSO HATH LAID THE FOUNDATION of

hath spanned the heavens: when I call unto them, they stand up together. 14. All ye,

THE LORD HATH LOVED

HIS ARM SHALL BE

assemble yourselves, and hear; which among them hath declared these things?

HIM:

he will do his pleasure on Babylon, and

on the Chaldeans. 15. I, even I, have
spoken; yea, I have called HIM: I have brought HIM, and HE shall make HIS way prosperous. 16. Come ye near unto me, hear ye this; I have not spoken
in secret from the beginning; from the time that it was, there am I: and now the Lord God, and his spirit, hath sent me. 17. THUS SAITH THE LORD, thy
Redeemer, THE HOLY ONE OF ISRAEL; I AM THE LORD thy God which teacheth thee to profit, which leadeth thee by the way that thou shouldest
go.

(A) passages such as this and elsewhere (i.e. John 17:23 .. thou hast loved me) do not show
two different persons where one person loves the other person but rather demonstrates that God
loves that part of himself that is his right arm just as you love your right arm and nourish and
take good care of it. (1Cor 12:25 refer back to chapter six to see how father and son are both
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one in person but also as specifically addressed, one in purpose as your right arm and head are
one in purpose, two different kinds of oneness whish uses two different Greek words and one
does not negate the other)
(B) Jesus is with God and is God in the same way that your right arm is with you and is you and
yet obedient to you all at the same time. Jesus is the first and the last for the very reason that he
is NOT a different person then the father or the head but because He is that part of God come in
the flesh that God considers to Be his right arm come to man in the way that we might put our
right hand into a leather glove of flesh. In fact this is the only coherent way to understand that
nature of the subservient but co-equal son of God who is God!?! REVELATION 1:8. I AM ALPHA AND
OMEGA,

THE BEGINNING THE ENDING,

THE ALMIGHTY.
and

saith the Lord, WHICH IS, and

WHICH WAS, and which IS TO COME,

These phrase are stated in three places here; also in verse 8 and again in Rev 4:8. And the four
beasts had each of them six wings about him; and they were full of eyes within: and they rest not
day and night, saying, Holy, holy, holy, Lord God Almighty, WHICH WAS, and IS, and IS TO
COME. And is similar to Alpha and Omega found in 1:8,11; Rev 21:6. And he said unto
me, It is done. I AM ALPHA AND OMEGA,, the beginning and the end. and 22: 13. I
am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last.
Notice that Christ here refers to Himself as the almighty!! In all of these references the phrase
I AM HE is not a generic ref to anything but specific to the God who is speaking and created
and lord over all of whom there is NO OTHER LIKE HIM. The scriptures refer to the one that
was coming and in that day they would know that God had sent his right arm to them and they
would know that "I AM HE. Your right arm is you it is fully you but it is not all there is to you.
The father is greater then the son in the same way that the head is greater then the right arm, man
is made in the image of God and God uses that very image of his creation to describe His own
nature. How comprehensible is that.!?! What is so difficult to understand when God uses the
very same terms used with the very creation created in his image??? Why do so many feel the
need to come up with every analogy under the sun but completely ignore and blow off (as
figures of meaningless speech) the very terms and way that God himself describes father son and
holy spirit!? man is made in the image of God and God uses the parts of a man that is created in
Gods own image to describe himself (father son and holy spirit) how in-comprehensible is
that!?!
However, none of this dissuades these children of hell, on the contrary many evil men like to scoff with
such ridiculous things as :
-You just dont understand the doctrine of the trinity or how the word person is defined/used properly
And one of my favorite ones
- Jesus was not a ventriloquist at his baptism
Or
Who was Jesus praying to Himself?? ..(with a smile, smirk and scoff)

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Our answer to that foolishness is this::................... God is one person who only sent a part of himself
called his right arm via a physical birth ergo called his son to teach us how to live pray, suffer and die to
HIMSELF!?!....well, he certainly did not come to teach us how to pray and die to some other god????.....
(Jesus is God right??)..If God is one God then of course God was praying to himself. HOWEVER, IF
ONE PERSON WHO IS GOD IS PRAYING TO ANTHER MORE POWERFUL PERSON WHO IS
ALSO GOD, THEN GOD IS NOT ONE GOD(and then you are either a outright fool or lying
to yourselfs in claiming you worship one God; or, that one God is somehow not praying to himself!?)
If you do believe in one God how in the world can you even ask the question was God praying or talking
to himself?? Trinitarians can only attempt in hypocrisy to say the one God was praying to (the same
one God) himself, only not really; it was really one lesser god person who was praying to the other
greater (father) god person, but dont worry, they will claim, that is not different gods!?! Fools, you
claim to worship one God and then base your scoffing augments on the ridiculous idea that the one God
was not praying (or swearing) to himself?!?...(He could pray to or swear by no greater then Himself,
nor could their be any higher authority to hold God to his own oath...!?!)
The real question should be how does describing or claiming that the one God is multiple different
persons, keep from that same one God praying or talking to himself? The father and son and holy spirit
are all THE ONE GOD right??.Neither confounding the Persons, nor dividing the Substance..
Since Jesus is this same one God as the father of course the ONE God is praying to the One God of
himself, so what is the point of making God into multiple different persons? How does having multiple
different persons keep this one God/being/entity from praying to himself?! The Trinitarians want to have
their cake and eat it too as the saying goes. On the one hand they need to say they only worship one
indivisible God being/ entity but on the other hand they feel the need for some reason to keep Jesus or
God from praying and talking to himself by dividing him up into different persons!?! It never occurs to
them that that since there is only one God to pray too and Jesus is that God come in the flesh that he
would need to talk to himself as to show us how to live, suffer, pray and die for our (and the flesh)
benefit not his!?! God came to earth to live suffer and die for His benefit or for the benefit of man?
Thou fool, there is only one God to pray too so if God is going to personally (in the flesh) show us how
to pray to God, then he would need to do so by praying to himself. There is perfectly good coherent
reasons for the one God to be praying to the one God (praying to himself).
But, oh no, Trinitarians feel that if God talked to himself then that would be stupid at best and at worst
make God schizophrenic or some other mental illness they fear. No sir, they will have none of it, they
are on a mission from god. They are going to go out and save God from himself and any
schizoid/mental illnesses that might bedevil God himself. What is even more ridiculous is that their
solution to keep God from talking to himself (some mental illness they feel) is to evoke multiple
person(s)-ality (deny it is a) disorder and insert it onto Gods being (call it one entity/ The
Godhead) instead!?! Man is made in the image of God and when I see a man with multiple different
personalities, in the way Trinitarians desperately need their god to be, we call it a disorder (demon
possession to be more exact) not divine!?!
They will say comments similar to the following: Your view of "person" is far too wrapped up in
modern conceptions of personhood. THE TYPE OF "PERSON-NESS" THAT THE MEMBERS OF
THE TRINITY HAS IS ENTIRELY DIFFERENT THEN WHAT HUMAN BEINGS HAVE after
admitting and trying to make that argument with then spend the rest of any discussion trying to
convenience everyone why it must in fact really be three separate and or different persons as the world
person is normally used!? Other such comments are employed as in Jesus was not a ventriloquist at
his baptism, as if that were the alternative needed (to explain one person) or proves anything ?!? It
should also be pointed out that Trinitarians also (must; and even admit) ascribe three different minds (in
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different locations) in this god of theirs (for the same exact reasons/arguments they insist must be
different persons) and yet still with a strait face claim, even insist, that those three different god minds in
three different bodies and different locations is NOT three different gods!?! Again just another
trinitarian hypocritical attempt at playing both sides of the fence. There is ONLY ONE GOD they say,
but insist on different persons because they feel it ridiculous that one God would be praying to
himself!?!? They deny there are multiple different gods but in practice that is the doctrine they defend
and worship!
What fools (or worse prov 26:12) men become when they fall in love with themselves and their own
ideas. Wake up! It is poison, not pious faithfulness!?! This would all just be a big hilarious joke (worthy
of the best comedy troop) if it were not so pathetically foolish and damnable. If the One God (in heaven
who is a SPIRIT) wanted to validate that it is in fact himself (on the earth in human flesh) that has come
in the flesh on the earth, then a voice out of heaven telling everyone that is Himself is perfectly
consistent with a coherent agenda and methodology. The voice and witness to men does not come for
Gods own sake but for mans reassurance. (John 12:30 Jesus answered and said, THIS VOICE
CAME NOT BECAUSE OF ME, BUT FOR YOUR SAKES) The one person God (who is
omnipresent) in heaven as well as on the earth (at the same time) wanted everyone to know that it was
indeed HIMSELF "in the flesh" Suddenly we can see that the only things bedeviled with many
demons (and mental imperfections) are the Trinitarians logic and mindset itself.
Further, while the Trinitarian can vividly image a incomprehensible being who is three different
persons, that still does not keep that one being from talking to himself the same one being/entity if they
are truly only one God/being/entity. However, at best it not only keeps that being from truly being one
but makes that being into a incomprehensible and incoherent god and in reality it is the worship of three
different gods while only denying it claiming people just do not properly understand the concept. Three
different persons (with three different minds) in three different locations is not one of anything except
perhaps one pantheon of three gods while trying to call that pantheon one being or one entity. It is just
another masterstroke of double minded (James 1:8) double speak God is three and God is one all at the
same time, to doubt this they suggest would be to doubt what God is capable of doing. Many will buy
this bag of dung because after all they do not want to be accused of putting limits on God. After all God
can do anything. They might as well just come out and say it plainly, because they are certainly living it:
Ill be damned, if/ before any God, scripture or sound mind comes along and tells me (trinitarians)
otherwise.!
This Trinitarian idea of God head is nowhere to be seen certainly not clearly by the things which are
made such that they are without excuse (no, it is incomprehensible, remember?!?). In any case, there is
nothing in nature except these wild and vivid imaginations to explain this three different persons is
still only one God/entity. (But NOT three persons as the word person is normally defined,
unless of course your trying to come up with an explanation for why you need three different persons in
the first place. Then of course the trinitarins mean and use the word person as the word person is
normally defined; that is what they have been trying to get through to your thick skull the whole
time!?! See also Ch Ten) However, the only thing that is made in the image of God is man and God uses
terms (both technical Greek see Ch six as well as specific terms referring to specific parts of a man) that
refer to mans parts to describe the father and son and Holy Spirit are in the terms of the man that was
created as the head, spirit and right arm of one and the same person that comes to save man.
In reality, the father, son and spirit are all the same one person of one being who is God projected and
interacting with men and angels in different ways. Obviously and logically that part of the spirit of God
which is connected to the flesh that was born into this world is connected to that flesh in a way that the
rest of the same spirit of God is not. Ergo, the distinctions between the Father, Son and Holy spirit are
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distinctions in function and of circumstance/condition of the various parts of God not differences in
person!?! God is a person, the Holy Spirit is a person, Jesus is a person...the same person!?! There are
only distinctions in the manifestations due to being in different kinds of universes ie spiritual & physical
and functioning differently in those all at the same time....Same HE or HIM but the HE that is in heaven
is also the He that is on earth but the HE on earth is subordinate and obedient to the HE in heaven
because the HE in heaven is the greater part of the HE that is on earth!?!........
Appealing to attributes of God such as wisdom and love is no different then appealing to appendages
such as head and right arm except one of those is how the scriptures describe God and the other is not!?!
But both of those would still only qualify for one person as the word person is normally defined!
How "Ironic that Trinitarians will try to deny the scriptures use of God literally sending His right arm
(even ridiculing that) because of its Anthropomorphic implications and yet that is the exact bases for all
trinitarian arguments. It is the anthropomorphic descriptors that trinitarians try to use to reasons for
arguing a demand for multiple/three different persons of God (ie. had to be multiple persons so that God
was not praying to himself et al. The Question must be asked, How many other Gods is there for the
one God to pray (or swear) to?!?! (God could swear by no greater then Himself, nor could their be
any higher authority to hold God to his own oath...!?!) He is a literal son by virtue of the birth into
human flesh NOT by virtue of having a different person then his father
If you do believe in one God how in the world can you even ask the question was God praying to
himself?? Trinitarians can only attempt in hypocrisy to say the one God was praying to himself, only
not really; it was really one lesser god person who was praying to the other greater (father) god
person!?! Fools, you claim to worship one God and then base your scoffing augments on the ridiculous
idea that the one God was not praying (or swearing) to himself?!?. (He could swear by no greater then
Himself, nor could their be any higher authority to hold God to his own oath...!?!)
If a omnipresent God speaks from two different locations even at the same time why is that so amazing
and or exactly is that some demand for multiple persons of a omnipresent God!?! Why would Jesus need
to be a ventriloquist?!? That objection (Trinitarian straw man argument) itself makes no sense
whatsoever. But perhaps you worship a small God who can only be and act [communicate] in one
location at a time [in only one way at a time]..................ummmm.
Trinitarins claim they only worship one God;..However, liars claim they do not lie (you just don't
understand what they meant to say [its a mystery]). And many complain you just dont understand
the doctrine of the trinity but the truth is that they like to play wack-a-mole with their terms and
concepts. This here will address all the basic forms and prove that no matter what acrobatic contortions
they twist into the end result is still the same. They are nothing but a polytheist pagans who lie against
the truth based on their human anthropomorphic reasoning in hypocrisy denouncing God's own
anthropomorphic descriptions of his nature. (They insist that God is three different persons because of
the individual personal qualities of father, son and holy spirit [using the word person as the word
person is normally defined] while at the same time castigating us for arguing against three persons
because supposedly you trinitarins do not mean that God is a person in the way the word person
describes an anthropomorphism [is normally defined/ meaning of the word]) . In short, youre double
minded, hypocritical, heretics.

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Romans 1:25.

WHO CHANGED THE TRUTH OF GOD INTO A LIE, and worshipped and served the
creature more than the Creator, Some love to try to argue such foolishness as it is just an idiom, but as we
are seeing there is no basis for that assertion except as a convenient but thinly veiled excuse for
ignoring what God does say in favor of men centered theologies. However, in any case, even if
that were true, it would not help their cause because it is a medalist description that God
HIMSELF uses to describe himself. You would think that is how God fearing, sola scriptura
folks would want to start their arguments with, but no these fools call that heresy! Trinitarins
prefer to ignore the very descriptions and ways that God uses further, call it heresy, and then
invent a triune god in councils of heretics and claim it had been in the scriptures all along!
The popular excuse is that word person does not mean person such as we normally think of a person
(different separate from other persons, that would make multiple different gods they must admit) but on
the other hand they must be different persons the way the word is normally used because that is the
entire bases for claiming that God must be multiple different persons. Father in heaven, Son on earth, as
different persons in different locations (and as some would suggest with different minds) No need to
worry we just chalk up the double minded double speak to the fact that God can be and not be different
persons all at the same time because God is great ;.. Alah Ackbar (A common Muslim
expression that has been used to express ones faith even when the reality conflicts with reason)Oh
but wait, they too would denounce Trinitarians as polytheist pagans also. One can only wonder but see
why and how even the heathens see the hypocrisy and blasphemy of the Trinitarians. Sadly, if we were
to use this metric (the number of different persons in different locations and or with different minds)
alone, (not considering other factors) then we would be left with the conclusion that Muslims were
closer to the true one single God then the Trinitarians are!?!
James 2:19. Thou believest that there is

ONE GOD; thou doest well: THE DEVILS ALSO BELIEVE, and tremble

Trinitarians cannot even legitimacy lay claim to having the degree of faith that demons do. It is a sad
state but a fact that most of Christianity do not even have the most basic of doctrines (the number of
persons) of deity. This is like a doctor who has no knowledge of what blood or germs are!?! Seriously,
simply calling your worship of three different persons in three different locations (and or with three
different minds) one God being even insisting (Ad nauseam ) that it is still only worshiping one God
does no more to change the reality (and or the morality) of what you do (call your polytheism
monotheism) then an abortionist who confesses that they do not kill innocent people (because a fetus
is not a person) No!, (they confess) they promote human and womens rights, free choice and or the
love for our childrens future. They would pretend that they dont want any children to suffer because
they love people and children soooo much.
A whore who denounces prostitution and confesses (ad nauseam) that she does not practice such
wickedness ..what she does is totally different she only comforts those who need it she is a not a
prostitute she is just a caregiver does not change what it is even though she calls it by a different name
and describes it in a different way!?!?! Claiming you worship one God who is three different persons
each person has their own different amount of god knowledge , power and authority that send each
other around on missions is nothing but s polythesism/ triism with different wrapping paper and a bow
on topAlso note that it is typically for Trinitarians also to ascribe three different minds to these three
different persons who are in three different places. Simply denying your evil wicked deeds are not
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reality....... The doctrine of trinity is Plythesim/trithesim in practice while denying it and calling it a
different name simply denying the facts only demonstrates that God keeps his promises 2Thess 2:11
The fact trinitarins claim they worship one God does not make it true any more then the Muslims claim
to worship the same God of Abraham does not make that true either...The fact they claim they worship
one God does not make it true any more then a liar and thief who claims I never said I stole and I do not
lie. I confess that I do not, you just don't properly understand what we (liars) are saying.("its a great
mystery"). The fact of the reality is they do worship three different persons who are each god and each
with different amounts of god knowledge God power God authority that send each other around. Thus,
no matter what they claim the reality is they do in fact lie and worship three different god persons which
is what gods are. Simply changing a few definitions and modifying a few words with sorcery,
alchemic or other magical incantations does not cause a transmutation of the lead into Gold. The reason
the Jews were accused of sorcery was because they turned the truth of God into a lie by their traditions
Trinitarians should not expect a different fate then those sorcerers who prophesied (Rev 19:10 for the
testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy.) lies.
When Christ state "I am he" you will die in your sins that is a specific reference to several passages
where God states he is going to send HIMSELF and NOT another different person! That part of the
spirit of God that God considers to be his right hand (because by the right hand all things were made)
Thus, not only does Jesus claim to be God but if you do not believe that he is the same person as the
person who sent him you will die in your sins. You cant claim to believe that "I am HE" if you believe
in the trinity because Trinity holds God in three different persons who are each God ...so to you Jesus is
not HE but some other person sent by a different person Him"!?! Muslims insist and state repeatedly
that they in fact worship and honor the God of Abraham and Jesus but they do not!! They worship
another god and Trinitarians worship a god in three different persons which is literally another (person)
Jesus (2Cor 11:4) Jesus and the OT scriptures make it quite clear that the person that was coming is
the same exact person that sent a part of his own self considered to be His own right arm via a physical
birth. It is the physical birth that gives reason for calling that right arm the son of God God did not
send another different person. Trinitarians believe that one person sent another different person. So you
cannot say you believe that the second person of the trinity (Jesus) is the "I am he" or same person that
sent his right hand in the OT since the right hand is the son that was sent by the first person of the trinity.
There is alot of perspective that folks seem to gloss over and do not consider. Of course Jesus has
always existed because Jesus is nothing but that part of the spirit of God considered his right hand that
God would send and put into flesh via a physical birthHowever, from another perspective it is just as
equally true that, Jesus the man ( son of man/ son of God) did not exist before he was born into the
flesh (ergo Ps 2:7this day have I begotten thee; Lk 1:35. ).because before he was born into the flesh
he was just God specifically the right arm of God that was promised to come latter. That part of God that
God would send into flesh has always existed but that part of God has not always existed in flesh or as a
man!?!.....Thus when folks argue over or point fingers on whether or not Jesus existed before he was
born into the physical world has everything to do with perspective. No man (or son of man) existed
for all of eternity prior to the time before God(Jesus) created Man.There was only God (Jesus) who
created man and all thingsThis brings us to another important point and concept to understand. Man is
a spirit animating flesh. When God put himself (that part of his eternally existent self) into flesh via a
physical birth then God literally became a man. That man did not exist prior to the point that man was
born. However, that part of the spirit of God that was born into that flesh had always existed because it
is God in the same way that if I put my right hand into a leather glove (of human flesh) that part of me
that is put into that leather glove existed before during and after it leaves that leather glove of flesh.
Never the less, the man did not exist until the man Jesus was born. The God which is the spirit because
God is a spirit and Jesus is God had always existed before he was born into the world but he did not
exist as a man (or son of man) prior to the time that he himself as God created man/ son of man!?!
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Before the son came into the world he was only considered to be the right hand of God, that would come
and when it did he would be called the only begotten son of God, for the very reason that while many
have been called "sons of God" Jesus was the ONLY BEGOTTEN son God had via a human women!?!?
Some attempt to argue in essence that the first begotten was NEVER begotten in time but was Always
begotten in eternity even before time. If this idea were not such wide spread foolishness I would not feel
the need to even mention it here but since it is, I address this in brief:
THIS DAY (at a certain point & specific day). HAVE I BEGOTTEN
THEE? And again, I WILL BE TO HIM A FATHER, AND HE SHALL BE TO ME A SON? 6. And again,
WHEN HE BRINGETH IN The first begotten into the world .............Lk 1:31-32; Ps 2:7 Passages such as Jn 3:16
only states that God gave us his only begotten son...It does not state that the son had been begotten
before he came or was begotten!?! ....If I loved you so much that i gave you my only begotten son, what
fool would try to argue that my son must have been begotten before he was begotten (brought) into the
world?!?
Heb 1:5 Thou art my Son,

God does not have a mother. However, the man Jesus did have a mother and yet we say that Jesus was
God in the flesh. Yes, it is true the human flesh that was born into this world was NOT God but the spirit
of that human flesh that gave that human flesh life was God in that flesh giving life to that human flesh.
This is the point mentioned elsewhere that when you were born you have a spirit that gives your flesh
life and when you die that spirit leaves your flesh that is what death is. However, the flesh that was born
into this world called Jesus did not have a natural spirit, (for the sake of simplicity here we shall use
soul/spirit/mind/ essence interchangeably [since the essence of spirit and soul et al are all spiritual]
while we can make distinctions the distinctions are also only various ways of looking and referring to
the basic substance in parts or as a whole; Otherwise in short the soul is the substance of your
person where as the spirit is the instruction set [nature] that governs your soul/person) the spirit in
that flesh was the right arm of God giving that gave that human flesh life and animation. This is no
different then your own person, your flesh is given life by the spirit/soul that is in you. So before you
scoff with Jesus was just a hand puppet of God (Gods right arm in human flesh) then consider you
likewise are just as much a puppet of the soul/spirit that is in your flesh the only difference is that you
are a different person (then God) whos spirit is limited to the confines of your human flesh while Christ
is part of the omnipresent Spirit of God (that God considers to be His own right arm) attached to flesh
but not limited to the confines of that flesh; connected in a way that the rest of God is not. A simple
thought exercise with a hand puppet animated by you (the unseen behind the curtain spirit) explains all
the difficulty understanding with such passages as Jn 10:29-31; 12:49 et al. While Jesus is certainly
not a flesh and bone right arm of God (If that is how you want to define literal) He (Jesus) is
however, that part of God that God himself considers to be his own right arm that came in the flesh. He
is God, He is the creator, He get to define the terms and parts of himself and the terms that God uses
are the very ones that man who is made in his image are not just modalist but staunchly anti-trinitarian!
His son is his right arm...The son is only a son because of the physical birth (of that part of his spirit
that is His own right hand) into HUMAN FLESH that was NOT a daughter...Not a different person!?!

CHAPTER FOUR:
OT- The Father sends His RIGHT ARM to be a SAVIOR (lifted up on a cross) for man ..The father
sends HIMSELF!?!

THOU ART OUR FATHER;

THY HAND. ( John 1:3. All things were made by him; and without him was not

Isaiah 64:8 But now, O LORD,

are the work of

we are the clay, and thou our potter; and we all

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any thing made that was madeJesus the Hand of the father that sent that hand to save and did do all
the work of creation.).
Malachi 2:10 Have we not all

ONE FATHER?

hath not

ONE GOD ( Eph 4:6.

One God AND

Father of all..God is the father the Father is God; .Jesus is God Jesus is the father) created us? why do we deal
treacherously every man against his brother, by profaning the covenant of our fathers?

Man is made in the image of God and man also uses his hand/arm to accomplish the work man
does.ergo John 1: 1. In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the
Word was God3. All things were MADE BY HIM; and without him was not any thing
made that was made. 14. And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we
beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.. My
right hand IS me and is WITH me (Jn 1:1; 17: 5 et al)..Who is our advocate with the father?
(God HIMSELF the same person in heaven is the advocate that came to earth; ergo:. in that
day you will know that I am heIt is I)..The right hand come in flesh via a physical birth
who is the same person that sent that right hand How else would a God (living entity)
existing/operating in multiple different kinds of universes communicate to other humans in the
physical universe refer to the greater part of himself in the other universe that actually in charge
of the part of himself communicating this to the humans in that physical universe?? God is a
spirit.Jesus was flesh with the spirit of God animating it .That flesh communicated to the
other men how that their God is in heaven and is spiritso dont worship the man worship the
mans Jesus God and their God . This was not a denouncing on Christ part that he was God only a
denunciation that the flesh standing before them was not to be worshiped(NOTE: GOD
CAN BE UNDERSTOOD BY THE THINGS THAT ARE MADE. MAN IS THE VISIBLE IMAGE
AND LIKENESS MAKING THE INVISIBLE GOD CLEARLY SEEN AS IN ROMANS 1:20).
Psalms 98:1. O SING UNTO THE LORD A NEW SONG; (This

15:3 sections) for he hath done marvellous things:

new song will become important in Revelation Ch 5:9 &

HIS RIGHT HAND, HIS HOLY

and

ARM, (Christ is that right hand and holy arm of God that god used to create all things in the same
way we do with our right hand and arm) HATH GOTTEN HIM
(1Cor
THE VICTORY.

15:52-57 Take note the right arm [which is Jesus} got the victory. Jesus Got the victory for us and for
God because Jesus is nothing but the right arm of God come in the flesh) 2.

The Lord hath

MADE

KNOWN HIS SALVATION: (Lk 2:20..JESUS!?!?)

his righteousness hath he openly shewed IN

THE SIGHT OF THE HEATHEN. (Rom 16:25-28) .. 7. Let the sea roar, and the fulness thereof; the world, and they that dwell therein. 8. LET
THE FLOODS CLAP THEIR HANDS: let the hills be joyful together 9. Before THE LORD: FOR HE COMETH, TO JUDGE THE EARTH: WITH
RIGHTEOUSNESS SHALL HE JUDGE THE WORLD AND THE PEOPLE WITH EQUITY.

THIS DAY HAVE I BEGOTTEN

THEE? (Ps 2:7this day have I begotten thee)
I WILL BE TO HIM A
FATHER, AND HE SHALL BE TO ME A SON?
WHEN HE BRINGETH IN THE FIRSTBEGOTTEN INTO THE WORLD
Heb 1:5. For unto which of the angels said he at any time, Thou art my Son,

And again,

6. And again,

It is superfluous to deny the literal arm of God that comes and called the son because of the physical
birth into flesh (son of man) but insist on a second person of God because a son must be a different
person then a human father even though Jesus did not have a human father and God does not take a wife
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and have children like men do ?!?! He is a literal son by virtue of the birth into human flesh NOT by
virtue of having a different person then his father. Note son by virtue of the physical birth Lk 1:31-32;
Ps 2:7; 1Jn 4:9 God via the angel told Mary that what was going to be born was to be called the son of
Godthere was no son of God until he was born however that part of God himself that He considers to
be his hand / right arm by which he created all things and would latter send via a physical birth had
always existed. The only son born to God was his own right arm that was put into human flesh via a
physical birth.
Psalms 118:16

THE RIGHT HAND

of the LORD is

EXALTED (lifted up John 12:32

And I, if I be lifted up from the earth, will draw all men unto me 33. This he said, signifying what death
he should die.):

THE RIGHT HAND

of the LORD DOETH VALIANTLY. 22 THE

STONE

WHICH THE BUILDERS REFUSED IS BECOME THE HEAD STONE OF THE CORNER..This
about the Christ ( Lk 24:44and IN THE PSALMS, concerning me.)
Ps 10:12. Arise, O Lord;

O GOD,

LIFT UP THINE HAND:

is ALL

forget not the humble.

That right arm which was a son to Him (God) was lifted up and crucified came and saved man
and would rule for Him (God) Jesus is the right arm of God not a different person. Since God
considers that when that right arm comes into this world his son then therefore it is his son. God
defines his right arm as his son, because Mary is the only human who was ever impregnated so
as to give a physical birth by the spirit of God. However what she was impregnated with was not
a different person but God himself specifically that part of God that is Gods own right arm that
God calls, considers (and as such we should also) His son NOT a different person.
John 8:24. I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for IF YE

YOUR SINS. 28.

THEN

WHEN
I AM HE,

Then said Jesus unto them,

shall ye know that

BELIEVE NOT that I AM HE, ye shall DIE IN

ye have

LIFTED UP

the Son of man,

and that I do nothing of myself; but as my Father hath taught me, I speak these

things.

John 8:24-28 with Isaiah .. You cant claim to believe that "I am HE" if you believe in the
trinity because Trinity holds God in three different persons who are each God ...so to you Jesus is
not HE but "some other person sent by Him"!?!
Isaiah 51:6. Lift up your eyes to the heavens, and look upon THE EARTH BENEATH: FOR THE HEAVENS SHALL VANISH AWAY LIKE SMOKE
THE EARTH SHALL WAX OLD LIKE A GARMENT

ARM OF

(Heb 8:13&12:27-29)9.

Awake, awake,

PUT ON STRENGTH,

THE LORD; AWAKE, ..

Isaiah 28:1 2. Behold, the Lord hath a mighty and strong one, which as a tempest of hail and a destroying storm, AS A FLOOD OF MIGHTY
WATERS OVERFLOWING, SHALL CAST DOWN TO THE EARTH

WITH THE HAND. (A flood Mat

24:39)
Isaiah 30:1.. 27. Behold, THE NAME OF THE LORD COMETH (REV 19:13; LK 12:49; JN 1:1,14) from far, BURNING
WITH HIS ANGER, . 29. YE SHALL HAVE A SONG, (see notes on Rev5:20 They sang a new song) as in the night when a holy solemnity is kept;
and gladness of heart, as when one goeth with a pipe to come into the mountain of the Lord, to the mighty One of Israel. 30. And the Lord shall cause his
glorious voice to be heard, and shall SHEW THE

LIGHTING DOWN OF

HIS ARM, (Mat 24:27 For as the

lightning cometh .. so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.) with the INDIGNATION OF HIS ANGER, AND
WITH THE FLAME OF A DEVOURING FIRE, ... 32. And in every place where the grounded staff shall pass, which the Lord shall lay upon him, it
shall be with tabrets and harps: and IN BATTLES OF SHAKING will he fight with it. 33. For TOPHET IS ORDAINED OF OLD; yea, for the king it is
prepared; HE HATH MADE IT DEEP AND LARGE: THE PILE THEREOF IS FIRE AND MUCH WOOD; THE BREATH OF THE LORD, LIKE
A STREAM OF BRIMSTONE, DOTH KINDLE IT. (REV

19:13; LK 12:49; JN 1:1,14)

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Man is created in the image of God ..man is one but man also refers to his parts and measures of himself
in the "third person". Example: my tummy does not like it when I eat that my back will not let
me do that.et aleven Jesus refers to himself in the third person, compare Mat 19:4/Mk 10:6 with
John 1:1-3.Notice, Mat 19: 4.HE which made them at the beginning MADE THEM male and
female. Jesus is the creator. When Jesus here spoke of the Creator who created man and woman Jesus
referred to Himself as the Creator in the third person "He (or denoting the fact that as the right arm of
God that created all things the person of God in heaven is the he that created all things and the he that
tells Christ what to say because Christ is not a different person then that person in heaven to whom that
right arm belongs to communicating with men.) That is why you find Christ even making use of the
third person when talking of Himself in heaven. God is a spirit and the Head of Christ. Christ is that
spirit in the flesh on earth subservient to the rest of that spirit in Heaven. There is a distinction between
them but not of persons the distinction is in the manifestation not in the person.. Jesus uses the third
person pronoun here because he is asking a question about what was written (by his inspiration) before
he came in the flesh while in heaven but now is on earth. We are going to visit this issue again and see in
more detail why and how this same principle is used.
My hand can communicate to you but only what I give it to know and do. Christ cannot know anything
beyond what His head the father gave Him. In the same way my head tell my hand and arm what to do
and communicate et al. This is why only the father which is the head of Christ knew the day or hour.
There is a distinction between Christ and the father in the same exact way that there is a distinction
between my foot and my hand and my head my head is in charge of my foot and hand but they are
simply extensions of the one person of me. There is not a separate person of my foot and hand even
though my foot and hand are different from each other and can even do different tasks and accomplish
different kinds of communications simultaneously. If I were a spirit (God is a spirit) and put my hand
into a leather glove (of flesh) so that all the other leather gloves could see me then my hand could be
baptized in water and communicate with you all while and at the same time i could roar a thunderous
voice from above this is my son here ye him. A son only has meaning with respect to the fact that God
was Born of a women in the flesh. Not some lesser spirit baby or lesser God then the Father
himself.......... Why would my hand sweats, agonize and even cries out in pain to my head every single
time it gets a needle put into it or a finger crushed???? Wow, I cant imagine how... it must be some other
person that lives in my hand that i never knew about every time it cries out in pain?!?..In fact when you
think about it why would the fact that a voice from heaven have anything to do with the number of
persons of God? Is not God omnipresent? Did Jesus did not say he was in heaven at the same time that
he was standing next to them. If a omnipresent God speaks from two different locations even at the same
time why is that so amazing and or exactly is that some demand for multiple persons of a omnipresent
God!?! Why would Jesus need to be a ventriloquist?!? That objection (Trinitarian straw man argument)
itself makes no sense whatsoever. But perhaps you worship a small God who can only be and act in one
location at a time..................

BUT JESUS DIEDTO (& FORSAKEN BY) AND GAVE HIS SPIRIT TO THE FATHER??
Some have attempted to point to passages such as
Luke 23:46 And when Jesus had cried with a loud voice, he said, Father, into
having said thus, he gave up the ghost.

THY HANDS

I commend my spirit: and

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This some may try to say, suggest that Jesus could not possibly be the right hand of God because here
Jesus is committing his spirit into the hands of God. Which is rather silly one thinks about what it means
to say I am in your hands almost never means or refers to the actual hand as so much as it does your
power which gets transmitted and instructs your actions by your doing by whatever means. This is
further demonstrated in the very word translated as hands can mean a literal or figurative hand or the
power one posses to act and do according to ones own will.
Strongs also points this out in how the word is and or can be use: From the base of ceimwn cheimon 5494 in the sense of its congener the base of casma - chasma 5490 (through the idea of
hollowness for grasping); the hand (literally or figuratively (power); especially (by Hebraism) a
means or instrument):--hand.
This, not to mention the fact that if the spirit of Christ is that part that God considers to be his
right hand [singular] then what happens to that right hand is in the literal hands [plural] of the
same.
The fact that the translators chose to use the words hands is not identification for who the person Jesus
is!?! The head is greater and tells the hand what to do but the hand is not without its own feelings and
trepidation when the nurses needle is getting stuck into it. The signals of the pain felt in the hands
originates in the hands not in the head, the head only interprets or ignores the pain signals et al. The
disposition of the hand is in the hands of your head which tells it to stay put and suffer the needle or to
withdraw and keep safe from the suffering et al ad fin.

MY
GOD, MY GOD, WHY HAST THOU FORSAKEN
ME?
Mat 27:46:46. And about the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani? that is to say,

This is truly an ironic passage for Trinitarians to attempt to use because Jesus is quoting Himself!?!
1Peter 1:10. Of which salvation THE PROPHETS have inquired and searched diligently, WHO PROPHESIED of the grace that should come

THE SPIRIT OF CHRIST

WHICH WAS IN THEM, IT TESTIFIED
unto you:11. Searching what, or what manner of time

when
beforehand the sufferings of
Christ, and the glory that should follow 2Peter 1:21. For THE PROPHECY CAME not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of
God spake as THEY WERE MOVED BY THE HOLY GHOST.

What did that sprit of Christ testify?.....

MY GOD, MY GOD,

Psalms 22:1.
thou so far from helping me, and from the words of my roaring?

why hast thou

FORSAKEN ME?

why art

Jesus is the creator and God in the OT speaking to the prophets about himself. It was that same Jesus
that quoted himself in the OT passages about his own suffering. Pay particular attention to all Psalms
references (Lk 24:44)
The argument that tries to say that since Christ committed his spirit to the father at his death proves that
Christ must be a different person then the father actually proves just the opposite!. However, it would be
just as true to say that the spirit that was in Christ was that part of the sprit of God that God put into flesh
and connected to the flesh in a way that the rest of the spirit of God (and thus the rest of God himself)
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was not. As such, that part of the spirit separated from (died to that flesh and went to the place of the
grave called death that He himself had created) the flesh of Jesus and thus the spirit of Jesus was
committed to God who owns (we have already seen where God owns the spirit) that part of his spirit
to do with that spirit as God himself saw fit to do. On the other hand to claim that Jesus either was
forsaken by God and or was a different person then the Father God in heaven leaves Jesus dead to his
flesh as well as dead to (and separated from) the father (a physical death/separation as well as a
spiritual death/separation from the rest of God) This creates two possibilities for those who argue for
multiple different persons, both of which are heresy:
(A) Jesus died and was separated from the rest of God and thus undeniably no matter what
linguistic contortions of nonsense you use, created two different gods who were separated from
each other and not the same person and no longer "one". They cant be the same one God (or one
being) if they are separated dead and or forsaken to each other!?! The reality s that part of Gods
own spirit that came into human flesh also visited the place called death/ the grave a place that
right arm created in the first place!?
(B) Jesus ceased to be God so that there would only be ONE God.
Thus, once again the very argument that Trinitarians will try to use only condemns them as
heretics and leaves them insisting that those are not the only possibilities because with God all
things are possible (never mind that God is not the author of confusion and self contradictions
either) or chalking up the incoherence of the arguments to: Yea, can you believe it? Our God is
such an awesome God (he is and is not a different gods all at the same time!?!; We are pious
[fools] because we dont put limits on what God can do [no matter what God himself said about
himself])
So to say that God cannot die is purely a matter of perspective it depends on what you mean by God
died. In any case, it is Gods (possessive) son because that human flesh born into this world via women is
a son (it is not a daughter) and belongs to God. It is God and no other person then the person who said he
would send that part of himself that he considers to be his own right arm to animate/give life to that
human flesh. Ergo: Son (male, son of man/women) of (belongs to) God. The idea that Jesus is a different
person then the person who sent that part of himself into male human flesh born son of man is simply
blasphemous! In any case, understanding WHO (what person) this Jesus is has everything to do with
who and what God you serve. Many different religious groups insist and state repeatedly that they in
fact worship and honor the God of Abraham and Jesus but they do not!! They worship another god and
Trinitarians worship another Jesus (2Cor 11:4)

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DIAGRAM B
The RIGHT ARM/HAND
is what is REVEALED,
What is sent and comes to
SAVE US, the
SALVATION
REAVEALD, that right
arm comes and gets THE
VICTORY and will
RULE. That right
arm/hand IS "His
RIGHTEOUS SERVANT"
that God MADE BARE
and was LIFTED
UP/EXALTED and thus
BARE THE SINS of
many !?!? Your right arm
is with you and it is you
(Jn 1:1) but it is NOT a
different person then you
or your headThe servant
to come is identified by
the one who sends that
servant as HIMSELF!?!.....

Ergo: Jesus who is that

RIGHT ARM of God in
flesh communicates to all
other flesh and states that
I AM HE and if you do
not accept it you will die
in your sins!?! You cant
claim to believe that "I am
HE" if you believe in the
trinity because Trinity
holds God in three
different persons who are
each God ...so to you Jesus
is not HE but "some other
person sent by a different
person Him"!?!

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Trinitarians cannot lay claim to having trusted in him and or ever came to Christ. (Whatever that
means since Christ is the word and it is impossible to trust in a word you have no or very little
knowledge of in the first place, even the Pharisee had the scriptures they did not deny the ink on paper
only the meaning and application as it pertained to the Christ )
Although the Jews may have rejected Jesus as the Messiah, the Muslims today accept Jesus was the
Jewish messiah (The Christ), but they still do not believe that He is the God that sent his right
arm.Likewise Trinitarians do not believe that God sent his right arm. They confess that the first person
the father sent a second different person the son rather then the same person of God who sent his right
hand and arm in the flesh called His son. You cannot keep that word which you deny The whole point
to except ye believe that "I am he" (a specific ref to the scriptures I show in the paper) You cant claim
to believe that "I am HE" if you believe in the trinity because Trinity holds God in three different
persons who are each God ...so to you Jesus is not HE but "some other person" sent by HIM !?!.... Lk
1: 35 that HOLY THING which shall be born of thee shall be CALLED the Son of God .......What is that
"Holy Thing"??...The scriptures insist that God sent a part of Himself that God considers his right arm.
God also called that same part of himself the word of God. He also called that same part of himself the
lamb of God; .into flesh born of a women ergo son of God. Jesus is the same person there is only one
person of God and except you believe it you are no different then any other religion who claims to love
Jesus or worship the God of Jesus.
But many want to deny the literal arm of God that comes and called the son (because of the physical
birth into flesh [son of man]) but insist on a second person of God because a son must be a different
person then a human father even though Jesus did not have a human father and God does not take a wife
and have children like men do ?!?! What was sent and came to save man is a son NOT because it was a
different person!?! THE SON OF GOD is a reference to the fact that human flesh was born of a
women. What that WOMAN (who is of man) gave birth to was a SON (it certainly was not a
daughter, but is was a son of man) and that SON (of man/woman) was OF GOD because it was God
who sent his own right arm, part of himself, not a different person but the one person who is God who is
a spirit put his own right arm into human flesh and let it be born of man/woman ERGO SON OF GOD.
The SON is OF GOD because it is God himself not a different person. Only fools believe that Jesus
must be a different person because God sent his right arm to be born into human flesh, to animate and
give that human flesh life?!? When you were born you were given a spirit created by God but it is a
human finite spirit but it animates your physical human flesh (your spirit does not extend beyond your
physical body)....when the flesh that was born into this world called Jesus was not given a created spirit
IT WAS THE SPIRIT OF GOD Himself in it, animating it. (the part of Gods own spirit that he
considers to be his right hand)........Ergo God come in the flesh... (Rom 1:20. For THE INVISIBLE
THINGS OF HIM from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that
are made, EVEN his eternal power AND GODHEAD; so that THEY ARE WITHOUT EXCUSE; ) He
is a literal son by virtue of the birth into human flesh NOT by virtue of having a different person then his
father. Note son by virtue of the physical birth Lk 1:31-32; Ps 2:7; 1Jn 4:9 God via the angel told
Mary that what was going to be born was to be called the son of God. There was no son of God until he
was born however that part of God himself that He considers to be his hand / right arm by which he
created all things and would latter send via a physical birth had always existed.. But in any case, a
distinction between the head (father) and the right arm (called the son of God due to that physical birth)
is not a different person!?!
If people would see just how powerful and significant the fact that Jesus claimed to be the I AM HE of
the OT (and or to be the right arm of the He in heaven), then they would be in a better position to
demonstrate that in fact Jesus did claim to be the very God that sent him and not a different person. Jesus
makes distinctions between himself and the father just as he should between a head in heaven and a right
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arm in the flesh but Jesus never made a distinction between his person and the person of the very God he
claimed to be. On the other hand trying to argue that Jesus is not the same person as the person (that
clearly states he is going to send himself) only brings confusion and emboldens those who claim Jesus
never claimed to be God. The fact is Jesus claimed to be the very same person of God in heaven. That is
the whole point to the NT and OT references of who the I AM HE is!?! Trinitarians worship three
different distinct and separate persons who are each God, you do not worship the God of Jesus for Jesus
is that same God (not the flesh standing before them but his person, His spirit; that which was in him
that gave that flesh life and made it who he was in the flesh et al) and same and only one person of God.
Trinitarins worship three in one they do not worship the one who claimed to be the one. There Jesus is
not the Jesus nor the God of Abraham. To deny that The I AM HE is the father that sent the son as well
as the son that was sent is to deny who Jesus is in a most fundamental way. Beyond all contradictions,
the fact is that trinitarians literally deny who Christ is! They deny that Jesus is THE PERSON of God.
They all confess the HERESY that Jesus is but one of three different persons of God!?! In Short they
worship another God another Jesus. and as such, are no different then the pagans!
Your head is not your right arm, the father in heaven is the head of the same person who's right arm in
on earth in flesh. No multiple different persons warranted period! The father is distinct from the son in
the VERY SAME way that your head is distinct from your right arm but it is NOT a different person. If I
make reference to your right arm getting a finger crushed you would not have difficulty understanding
that i was NOT talking about your head and yet only a FOOL would think that would mean that your
head and right arm are two different people!?!?!. Which is Why God is so CLEAR about the fact that He
GOD is ONE person ONLY......man is made in the image of God and those are the exact terms God uses
to describe his own nature and who would come to save man and die on the cross. Rom 1:20. For the
invisible things of him ...are CLEARLY SEEN, being UNDERSTOOD ...., EVEN HIS .....GODHEAD;
so that they are WITHOUT EXCUSE.
So, while they deny the analogy of Gods head in heaven and right arm that comes in the flesh as the
heresy of modalism, (Three parts of the same person manifested in three different ways) they condemn
God himself for as demonstrated this is the exact terms and way that God describes the father himself
and the son that comes to mankind, But perhaps God too is a heretic?!?.OR.OR, these men and
Trinitarians are just outright filthy dreamers. While the Trinitarins claim to hold to the true faith, they
are just a cornucopia of literal GOD DAMNED FOOLS (or worse Prov 26:12) in the eyes of the Lord
himself! They demand that you never mind what the scriptures specifically state they will insist instead
on the FACT that trinitarianism is the true faith; that modalism is heresy and God damn (anathema,
according to their church councils) anyone who claims otherwise! The blunt language is used here to
illustrate both the severity and the intractability of the conflict (to erase any doubt that there is any room
to agree to disagree) of those that oppose themselves. For all the piety that the Trinitarians like to
claim, their actions and their fruits are the works of devils and liars whos damnation is just, without
excuse while deluding themselves thinking they are the pious faithful when in fact most are even
worse off then just a mere fool (Prov 26:12)
ALLEGORY OR METAPHOR VERSE LITERAL
The right hand of God is NOT a metaphor: (A). we are created in HIS image(B) This is not a issue
of allegory verse literal it is simply one of improper definition not literal verse metaphorical because
the spiritual is the true and literal. The physical things are the shadow, pattern and allegory if there is
one your whole concept and definition of allegory is completely backwards. God is a spirit....Is God
not literal?!....Everything in the physical universe gets its substance and source from the spiritual.. Heb
8:5,10; 9:23 10:1 ; 12:24..The spiritual came first then the physical. Christ was the lamb slain before the
foundation of the world. He created the lambs in the stall.......Thus the lambs in the stall are a pattern or
shadow or "metaphor" for the truth of Christ.... Christ the Lamb of God is not a figure of speech. Christ
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is not a metaphor for the lambs in the stall Christ is the original and true lamb. LIKEWISE, OUR
RIGHT HAND IS A PATTERN OR SHADOW OF GODS RIGHT HAND (It does all the primary
work typically) That part of the spirit of God referred to as His right hand is also called the lamb of God
and also HIS SON why? (because it comes into the physical universe via a physical birth, that part of
the sprit of God that comes into flesh is eternal [because God has always had his right hand/arm] that
flesh however was not eternally preexistent ) Jesus is also called the word of God.NONE OF THOSE
ARE METOPHORES! Because, they all originate, created and defined by an eternally existent singular
God who created all of the different variations in the physical universe patterned after things from the
spiritual universe(C) a son could also be looked as something that proceeds forth from something
else.you build a machine people sometimes refer to it as their child or their baby.Jesus is the Word
made flesh so by virtue of going fourth (into a different form/ human flesh) it is the offspring of God as a
result of the product of the spirit of God coming into and fusing with human flesh that is born into this
world in a way that the rest of God did not. Further, this word which is spirit came into the physical
world (from which the concept of a begotten son only has any meaning or relevance Jesus being the
only begotten son of God) via a natural physical labor or a human woman that gave birth to flesh
occupied by that part of the spirit of God that is the right arm of God (hand in a leather glove of flesh
animating it) that is God.Since it belongs to God then it is literally the only begotten
(birthed/unique) Son (male human flesh) of God (belonging to or the possession of God) not another
different person!?!
Some would try to claim that the right hand of God is a metaphor while the son of God is Literal. They
are both literal The spirit comes first then latter the physical things we give names to were created to
be patterned after/named after the spiritual. This is why man is said to be created in the image of God
even though God is a spirit the form he takes as a spirit is that of a great man. The spirit is the true and
literal. Man is made in the image of God and that is the exact terms head (father)..son (right arm) holy
spirit (ie your spirit)..to describe his nature. Not only is it NOT a figure of speech but Christ promised
that if you do not believe that the same person who was sent was the same person who sent him then you
would die in your sins.
The spiritual part of God that God calls his right hand is literal because your idea of a right hand came
from that spirit in whos image we were created in, in the first place!?! It appears that most everyone is
looking at this all backwards. God is referring to his right hand that he sent and put into flesh as his son.
(because that right arm comes via physical birth) God is NOT referring to a different person who is the
son as His right hand as in he is my right hand man! (that is not a co-equal of naything!?!) The
physical things in the physical universe such as out right hands/arms and sons et al are all patterned after
the TRUE eternally self existent God ..so NO THERE IS NO METOPHOR SINCE THE SPIRIT IS
NOT DESCRIBED IN METOPHORICAL TERMS BUT RATHER IN THE TRUE SENSE OF
EXISTANCE THAT THE PHYSICAL THINGS ARE PATTERNED AFTER..you cant look at
physical things and claim that spiritual things are only referred to that way because God is using a
metaphor , because the physical things are the metaphor (carbon copy or a pattern of the true) for the
spiritual/literal true things..everyones thinking is completely backwards..
Some try to point to John 8:17-18 the testimony of two men is true, and argue that for a testimony to
be valid, according to the Law of Moses, two men were needed. They will claim that, Jesus was one
Person, who gave His testimony, and the Father in heaven was another who gave the same testimony as
Jesus.
(1) The only thing prescribed is two witnesses not two persons. A person is not necessary to give
witness if there was something else that could witness to the facts. (I.E. 1John 5:8; John 5:36)
also considered a physical record of the facts in question. The two witnesses are (1) SPIRIT (2)
FLESH both of which are the same one God but distinct in that the spirit speaking from
heaven is absent of human flesh and the flesh of Jesus was the spirit of God in it speaking on
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earth. Jesus point blank states that he is his own witness John 8:18. I am one that bear witness
of MYSELF and the Father that sent me beareth witness of me. (So if Jesus and father can be
his witness and he is the one God then obviously nothing can prevent the one God from
being his own witness [in multiple ways]?!) God is in heaven and a spirit .Jesus is the same
spirit of God on earth as a man in flesh. The spirit of God that spoke from heaven is one witness.
The flesh standing in front of them is the other distinct witness. (distinct because that part of the
one God is connected to human flesh is so in a way that the rest of the ONE GOD is not)
Christ also pointed to the scriptures (which convey the word of God which is God, so yes God
testifies of HIMSELF!?) and his works as His witnesses (John 5:39) two different witnesses
spirit and flesh but only one person who is God both in the flesh and in heaven as a spirit. There
is only the witness of the voice from God in Heaven who is a spirit and the voice of a man on
earth who happens to be the same God but in the flesh. Two different witnesses because of two
different conditions (two different universes spiritual and physical) one is spirit in the heavenly
universe speaking down to man,; the other witness is the same God who is man, talking to men
as a man from the physical universe. There are multiple witnesses for Christ but there is nothing
in all of the different multiple different witnesses that gave witness to Christ that show,
demonstrate, or demand that God is multiple different persons.
(2) It states two men give witness so how does that demand that God is different persons? God is
not a man God is a spirit, Jesus is a man (male human flesh) animated by the spirit of God. So
When the one God gives the testimony of himself he does not provide two different men. It is
God as a spirit speaking from Heaven and Jesus who is the only man in the passage. God is both
spirit and a man. But the witnesses are not both men! If Jesus is the same one God as the father
then how does that verse prevent the one God from being the one Gods own two
witnesses?! The scriptures say the father and the son (parts, the head and right arm of the same
person; my arms and my legs and my face testify that I do or do not have tattoos all over my
body.) testify but there is no demand anywhere for two different persons, only two different
credible witnesses. The whole point to God being creator (and ultimate authority to define) of all
things and what it means to be God is that God can create multiple different witnesses (or
anything else) even though He is the singular ONE God. God does not have to be a multiple of
anything simply because the creation of which he created has multiple persons, witnesses, or
things in the physical universe.
God is spirit, a man is a spirit animating male human flesh (otherwise it is dead flesh) Jesus is the spirit
of God (specifically that part of the spirit of God that God considers to be his own right arm) that
animated the human flesh of "the man" called Christ. The fact that Jesus was fully a man (which is a
fusion of a spirit and human flesh) has NO bearing on the fact of the divinity of the spirit that was fused
to and giving life and animation to that male human flesh. A human woman that gave birth to flesh
occupied by that part of the spirit of God that is the word or right arm of God that is Godnot another
person. Since that male human flesh was born via a natural physical birthing process but fused to the
spirit of giving life/animating it, then it belongs to God. It is literally the only begotten (birthed) Son
(male human flesh) of God (belonging to or the personal possession of God in the way that your
human flesh is yours even though all things are Gods) It was the Holy Spirit that came upon Mary
and caused the fusion of that part of the spirit of God and that human flesh....it was the Holy spirit that
was giving life and animating that male human flesh.

CHAPTER FIVE:
OF HEIS & HEN
(a pun on of mice & men)

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SUMMARY SYNOPSIS:
Linguistically, the Greek NT terms translated as ONE in various places to modify God as in God is ONE destroy all pretense to God in
three different persons. There are primarily two Greek words we must consider in the NT translated as ONE. The first is:
HEN
1Cor 12:14-20. But now are THEY MANY MEMBERS, YET BUT ONE BODY
The use of the word HEN has two possible uses, It can refer to multiple different persons who act as one OR it can also refer to multiple
different parts of the same person that act as one or unified in purpose/goal
The other word translated as ONE is:
HEIS
However, the word HEIS DOES demand a singular person (or item) when person (or item) is the object being quantified by that number.
When two or more words or concepts equally apply have different possible meanings they can only logically apply in a way that they do not
contradict each other.(you cannot appeal to self contradiction in terms to make a valid argument)..the Trinitarian argument is incoherent and
certainly not consistent with itself. Logically The church members are "Hen" but cannot be "heis". so multiple persons is the demand. On the other
hand, your head and right arm are both "Hen" and "heis" this can only be logically coherent as ONE PERSON with parts or parts of the same
person. Likewise; Father and son are "hen" and God is ONLY and always "heis" logically they can only be one person in parts/portions of the
same person
ECAHD, ECHAD.MY GOD!..GOD IS ECHAD!!!!
Note on the OT Hebrew word ECHAD that some trintarians try to point to so as to claim that it demonstrates that God is a
compound unity being. That argument could only possibly be valid if they could show that the word Echad can ONLY and ALWAYS
refer to multiple different persons in order to even begin to make the argument that Gods compound unity is demonstrated in the use
of the word Echad Just because a thing could be (a certain way or have a certain meaning) is not proof or evidence that it
must be or is the meaning you pick because your theology depends on it period!
The English word ONE can also be used to denote a compound unity or it can also only refer to a single person or thing. In fact the
Hebrew word Echad is used like the English word one itself. The word Echad can refer to ONE PERSON ONLY.. Since the word
Echad has different possible meanings then you cannot claim that the use of Echad proves that God is multiple different persons. The
echad argument is nothing but wishful thinking pointing to one possible definition and claiming that the one possibility Trinitarians
choose eliminates all definitions of the word.
The fact is that the word (in Deut 6:4 et al) is "ECHAD" that word has different possible meanings. That Hebrew word Echad is used
IDENTICAL AS THE ENGLISH WORD "ONE"......... Both the words "ONE" and "ECHAD" refer to:
(a) ONE PERSON (Ezk33:24; Isaiah 51:2; Eccl 4:8)
(b) multiple different persons who are acting as one (Gen 2:24)
(c) multiple different parts of the same person or thing that act as one .(Ezk 37:17; Ez 2:64) .
Thus the mere fact that the word echad is used anywhere does not demand any one of those definitions just by itself. In fact we could
akin the word to the English word one into which it is translated. The English word one can be used in reference to one person or
multiple different persons acting as one or parts that function as one, just as in the above mentioned. so WHICH ONE OF THESE
IS THE CORRECT ONE/ use of the word echad?
lets look how the same verse/word in Deut 6:4 is used.
In the NT two different words to express those SAME SET OF DEFINITIONS found in Echad are used they are Heis & Hen
HEIS (a) ONE PERSON

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HEN (b) multiple different persons who are acting as one

HEN (c) multiple different parts of the same one person or thing that act as one ..................
IN the NT when Deut 6:4 et al is referred to by Christ it is recorded as using the Greek word HEIS
1. Mark 2:7, ...who can forgive sins but ONE (heis), even God?
3. Mark 12:29, Hear, O Israel, the Lord our God is ONE (heis) Lord.
That WORD HEIS DEMANDS ONE PERSON ONLYit FORBIDS more then one person. So God is both HEN and HEIS in
the NT and ECHAD in the OT ..
Further, just as with the English word one is defined by the context so too is the Hebrew word Echad defined by the context in
which it is found. Collective sets of nouns indicate a compound unity as in the table and chairs are ecahd/ one ( set ) If on the
other hand all you have is one/ echad table then there is not compound unity involved. When the Lord states that HE is one there
is no compound unity under consideration because for their to be so the OT text then the OT text would have had to spell out that the
Lord of he and I and him are one However, the OT context and sentence structure where Echad is used to describe god forbids any
compound unity because for a compound unity to exist it must be qualified with a collective set of nouns/ pronouns, which it never is.

From here we shall go through the Long version of all of this in more detail by starting with the word:
HEN
The use of the word HEN has two possible uses, It can refer to multiple different persons who act as
one OR it can also refer to multiple different parts of the same person that act as one or unified in
purpose/goal. It must be noted that it does NOT demand multiple different persons (or items); it also
refers solely to multiple or different parts of the same person (or item). working together in a unity of
function and or purpose. Hen is the word that is used when multiple persons or parts of the same
person are said to be united as/into one.
(A) HEN is used in several places that identify two or more persons or things (or parts of the same
thing) that exist as a plurality of one such as "one body" which consists of many members. (Also take
note: the Hebrew word Echad [Deut 6:44. Hear, O Israel: the Lord our God is ONE/ECHAD Lord:]
also can be used this way as shown in Ezk 37:9) 1 Cor.12:12 When two or more persons are said to exist
as one the word used is the nominative neuter form hen. This can be seen very clearly in the
following:
John 11:52 And not for that nation only, but that also he should gather

UNTO ONE (Hen) the

In this verse multiple persons are said to be made ONE.

The nominative neuter from of the word one (hen) is the word in this case.
children of God that were scattered broad.

1 Corinthians 3:6 I have planted, Apollos watered, but God gave the increase. 8.So then neither he that planteth is
anything, neither he thatwatereth, but God that giveth the increase. Now He that planteth and he that watereth

ARE ONE (Hen). In this verse two different persons have the same purpose or are in
unity. The word hen, is used here because two people are said to be one in the sense of
UNITY or one in purpose.
Ephesians 2:14 For he is our peace, who hath made

BOTH ONE (Hen) and hath broken down the

Here, both refers to two different groups namely the Jews and
Gentiles. These two groups are made into one. (Same kind of two party oneness found in a
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husband and wife) Because it is UNION of multiple persons or groups of persons, the neuter
word hen is used to describe the oneness.
(B) It also denotes the multiple different parts of the same person such as your arms and legs that all
function as one body. (Also take note: the Hebrew word Echad [Deut 6:44. Hear, O Israel: the Lord
our God is ONE/ECHAD Lord:] can be used in this way also as demonstrated in Ex 26:26 & ; Ezk
37:9; Num 13:23) Your "one body" consists of many different and distinct parts of one human body that
act together and function as one human body not multiple different bodies. This can be seen very clearly
in the following:
1Cor 12:14. For THE BODY IS NOT ONE MEMBER, BUT MANY. 15. If the foot shall say, Because I am not
the hand, I am not of the body; is it therefore not of the body? 16. And if the ear shall say, Because I am not the eye,
I am not of the body; is it therefore not of the body? 17. If the whole body were an eye, where were the hearing? If
the whole were hearing, where were the smelling? 18. But now hath God set the members every one of them in the
body, as it hath pleased him. 19. And if they were all one member, where were the body? 20. But now are

THEY MANY MEMBERS, YET BUT ONE (Hen)

BODY Here the object of discussion is the human body with its different parts of the same
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body. Although, each part is distinct from each, they come together or are put together so as to
make up ONE body. A head and right arm are members of the same ONE body. Hen is used here
to refer to how multiple parts are fit together to form ONE (hen) body NOT multiple different
bodies coming together to form a single body. A oneness of utility and function of all the parts of
the same body is described.
So the word Hen can be used in two basic different ways. We can see that Hen can refer to multiple
persons who come together as ONE Which is how the church is described OR as the different parts of
the same persons body that function as ONE body. So Hen can be used to refer to multiple
different persons but does not have to. It does not demand multiple different persons because it is also
used to refer to multiple parts of the same one body that function as one body. There are several
passages that speak to the Unity of the father in son in purpose/goal/function using the word Hen,
However, a oneness of function/purpose/goal/action does not address the question of how many persons
are involved. Example: (a) you and your wife can be one in unity in purpose/goal (b) your head and your
right arm can also be one in unity in purpose/goal/ Both of these statements are true and even the kind of
oneness in both statements is true also. However, the fact that a oneness of unity in purpose/goal exist
or is asked for, does not define how many persons are under consideration. It could be a single person
addressing the oneness/unity of parts of himself and or it can also be multiple persons who are said to
have a oneness/unity in purpose/goal.
John 10:28. And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man PLUCK THEM
OUT OF MY HAND. 29. My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to PLUCK
THEM OUT OF MY FATHER'S HAND. 30.

I AND MY FATHER ARE

ONE. (HEN) The Greek word here is Hen and the object is not how many persons God
is but rather the unity of the head (father) and right arm (the son) in their purpose/action of
keeping the disciples from being plucked from Gods hand. (also see 1Cor 12:20 the comparison
is the body of Christ which is made up of different persons to your Hen/one body made up of
different parts not different persons, thus parts or persons that make up HEN/one) Both the
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father and the son are UNIFIED in the ability and action and purpose of keeping anyone from
plucking those that are given eternal life out of Gods own hand. The number of persons of God
is not under consideration here the unity of action or purpose is, in the same way that your right
hand and head are unified in maintaining your cloths or appearance. There are other passages
that will address specifically the number of persons of God and those passages never use the
word HEN, Never!

THEY ALL MAY BE ONE;

John 17:21. That

(HEN; again the word
translated in this verse as ONE is all the same word hen and in the same context. Thus the
oneness in every part of this verses is all THE SAME KIND of oneness (synergistic) as different
parts or members of a unified body. This very first sentence identifies multiple persons as a
unified group in purpose/goal/action(synergistic). No one would suggest that Christ is prying that
all these people become one person but rather Christ is praying that they be become ONE using
the Greek word HEN to denote a oneness in purpose/goal/action/function. (synergistic) as thou,

FATHER, ART IN ME, AND I IN THEE, that THEY

ALSO MAY BE ONE (HEN); IN US: that the world may believe that thou hast
sent me. 22. And the glory which thou gavest me I have given them; THAT THEY MAY
BE ONE, EVEN AS WE ARE ONE: (HEN;
Ironically this is yet another favorite verse some like to point to but the very first part of the
verses defines exactly what kind of ONNESS Christ is addressing and praying for. This verse is
completely irrelevant to the issue of how many persons of God there are. It is a request that the
disciples be unified with the head (the father) in the same way that your right arm is unified with
your head in purpose/focus/unity/goal. It is NOT a request to be unified in person. Likewise,
when Christ prays for a ONENESS of UNITY in the decuples just as there is a ONENESS OF
UNITY between the son (right arm) and father (the head) you CANNOT say well since Jesus
only asked for a ONENESS OF UNITY in the parts, then that must mean that the father and son
are NOT ONE PERSON. The fact that the father is the head and the son is the right arm and
they are unified as right arm and head of a single person are unified, is not logical justification
for claiming that therefore the head is not the same person as the right arm?!? Since this verse
would be just as equally true and valid if only one person is doing the talking about the
other parts of himself in this verse, then this cannot be a proof of anything except 2Thess
2:11 The chart shown next demonstrates the very nature of what is under discussion in these
verses.
The spirit of God (Jesus/father/holy spirit who are all the same person) was in the flesh known to men
as Jesus Christ and thus Christ was therefore also in the father just as we put to death the old man and
receive the spirit of Christ/God/the father in us (our flesh) and as a result are then IN Christ (in the
father) and likewise function with the same purpose/goal/action in our lives as Christ who was God
come in the flesh did. These verses speak not to how many persons constitute God but that all parts be
unified in the same kind of oneness/unity of purpose/like mindedness/ actions.
When Jesus prays for HEN (translated as ONE in John 17:11) he is not praying for HEIS ( Oneness
of person; a different word also translated as ONE as in Gal 3:20;Mk 12:29) nor is he denying HEIS.
Further, just because Christ states that God is HEIS he is NOT a denial hat son and father are also
HEN. Two different words with two different uses in different context.. This Word HEN
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(translated as ONE) is NEVER used to identify the or a number of persons of GOD in the NT ,
NEVER!
The church (local or universal??) is ONE/HEN (Rom 16:4,16; 1 Cor 11:16; 1Cor 14:34; 16:1,19;
2Cor 8:1,18; 11:28 et al)
This statement is true but it is ONLY addressing the fact that the church is made up individual
parts/members/persons that function in unity of purpose/goal/mind. The statement is NOT addressing
how many churches exist at any particular place!
There are two kinds of oneness one of purpose/Unity/ and one of Person and one kind of oneness does
not exclude the truth of the other kind of oneness. They are NOT mutually exclusive. You cant use one
kind of oneness to make void the other with. If Christ is praying for one kind of oneness you cant then
assume that well he must be denying the other kind of oneness. The fact is the father and the son just
like a head and right arm are BOTH one in purpose/unity AND (as he states elsewhere in other context)
one in person. Thus, pointing to passages such as these which use the word HEN and in the obvious
context of unity of purpose/action/goal and speaks of the oneness of Jesus and the father in that unity
wanting his disciples to also be in THAT UNITY just as the right arm (Jesus/son) and head (father) are
in THAT UNITY does not have anything to do with the number of persons of God. Jesus is NOT asking
that they be one in person nor is he denying that the son and father are one person. The only oneness
(Jesus is praying for) under consideration here is the UNITY of parts/purpose/action NOT persons!?!
Thus, these passages have nothing to do with the number of persons of God nor can it "Qualify" the
number of persons of God. In fact they are completely irrelevant in defining the number of persons of
God except as an good example of Trinitarian faulty exegesis and logical fallacies..

The following Diagram also shows the concept of (John 17:11 et al) the father being in the man Christ as the
man Christ prayed for the spirit of the father to be in us which as scriptures will also state emphatically is in
fact the spirit of Christ. The spirit that animated the flesh of the man called Christ is the same spirit that the
man Jesus prayed for to come into our flesh. And the whole point to John 14:17 & 20 as shown in the chart
and in more detail in the previous PART FIVE
John 14:17. Even THE SPIRIT OF TRUTH; (Jn 14:6 I AM the way, THE TRUTH,) whom the world
cannot receive, .. for HE DEWLLETH WITH YOU, (present tense/standing next to them) and SHALL
BE IN YOU... (future tense In them) 18. I will not leave you comfortless: I WILL COME TO YOU
(future tense In them) Note: The spirit of Christ is the sprit of God and the holy spirit that is why Christ
said I will come to you. The spirit was standing next to them in flesh.......latter it would come to them to
be inside of them (inside of their flesh).....that is why. he would send the spirit.............one was external to
them...the other would be internal to them..
(1) Christ points blanks states that HE will be the one coming to comfort them!?! [it is hard to fathom how
folks miss this when he states it VERBATIM].......(2) Isaiah states that the son to be born would be called
"COUNSELLER" (the holy spirit is called that) (3) "another' is another/ different form and function NOT
another/different person ..(4)He will come in MY (Christ) NAME, is the NAME of the Holy Spirit!?!.

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The use of the word HEN does NOT demand multiple different persons (or items). It also refers to
multiple or different parts of the same person (or item ie head and right arm). working together in a
unity of function and or purpose.
HEIS
However, the word HEIS DOES demand a singular person (or item) when person (or item) is the
object being quantified by that number.
The second word we must consider is the Greek Word "HEIS" (Also translated as ONE) HEIS IS
FOUND ~90+ times in the N.T. relating to people and when it is used to define a number of persons, it
is NEVER used to define more then one person. Heis ALWAYS defines the number of persons as
ONE ONLY! The nominative masculine form HEIS is a cardinal numeral and is used throughout the
N.T. for one person and each time the Greek N.T. speaks of God as being one, it employs the numeral or
cardinal numeral HEIS" to describe THAT KIND of oneness. (Also take note: the Hebrew word
Echad [Deut 6:44. Hear, O Israel: the Lord our God is ONE/ECHAD Lord:] also can be used this
way as shown in Ezk 33:24)

Here are some observations by scholars on the Greek masculine one.

Joseph Henry Thayer: Heis means the cardinal numeral ONE. Where the word heis takes the
place of a predicate it means one person. (Page 186. A Greek, English Lexicon of the New
Testament.)
Mr. A. T. Robertson: One, when masculine (heis) sets forth the idea of the cardinal
numeral one. When referring to people or beings, ALWAYS the numeral one is implied. (Page
186 vol 5; pages 526 and 527, vol 4; page 299 vol 4. Word Pictures of the Greek New Testament.)
Bauer: The masculine one (heis) means, A single; only one. (Page 230 Bauers Greek Lexicon.)
Gingrich: The masculine one, (heis), is equivalent to protos which meansfirst. Only one;
single. (Page 57, Shorter Lexicon of the Greek New Testament).
There are NO verses that refer to God as a plurality of persons who are one However, there are several
verses that directly speak to the number of persons of God as HEIS or ONE and thus one person.
This fact alone should be a big hint: as to how many persons constitute God. Several examples of God
is Heis (ONE) can be seen in:
1. Mark 2:7, ...who can forgive sins but ONE (heis), even God?
2. Mark 10:18, there is none good but ONE (heis), that is God.
3. Mark 12:29, Hear, O Israel, the Lord our God is ONE (heis) Lord.
4. Luke 18:19, ... none is good save ONE (heis), that is God.
5. Romans 3:30, ... it is ONE (heis) God, which shall justify...
6. 1 Corinthians 8:4, ...there is none other God but ONE (heis).
7. 1 Corinthians 8:6, But to us there is but ONE (heis) God, the Father.
8. Ephesians 4:6, ONE (heis) God and Father of all, ...
9. 1 Timothy 2:5, For there is ONE (heis) God, ...
10. James 2:9, Thou believest there is ONE (heis) God, thou doest well, ...
11. Galatians 3:20, ... God is ONE (heis).
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The oneness of Gods person (or the number of persons of God) is, however, ALWAYS referenced using
the masculine word heis which is a cardinal number denoting singular ONE ONLY.

NOT A MEDIATOR OF ONE, (HEIS) but

GOD IS ONE. (HEIS)
Gal 3:20. Now a mediator is

The whole point to Gal 3:20. Now a mediator is not a mediator of one, but God is one, again, point
blank, identifies the number of persons of God! The mediation is between multiple persons (a
party of God and man); the but points out the contrast between the multiple persons in a
mediation party verses the one of God; The BUT is making the point that God is not like a
mediation party with multiple persons, God is ONE!?! The one is contrasted against a party or
multiple persons. . God is not multiple people as in the case of a mediation party. 1Tim 2:5. For
there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, THE MAN Christ Jesus; A man is simply
human living human flesh with spirit given it by God; when you were born you were given a spirit
but the flesh born into the world called Jesus who is that mediator is that part of the spirit of God that
God considers His right arm animating that flesh. Your spirit is the sprit of a finite man, the sprit of
the man called Christ was the infinite God himself animating the flesh. Ergo God come in the flesh!
(1) When it states not a mediator of ONE, the obvious intention is not one person. A mediator is
not a mediator of one person; you have to have at least two different opposing persons to have
mediation. However, some would attempt linguistic acrobatics by arguing that what is meant here is
that a mediator is not a mediator of only one mediation party as if all mediations take place not
between individuals but rather between parties of individuals such as two corporations going to
mediation (The difference here is that a mediation party need only consist of two or more individuals
where as a mediation of parties is that each side involved in the mediation is more then one person,).
Notwithstanding just how silly that argument is given the fact that mediations described in the bible
did not include stock holders or board of directors but appeared to have been between individual
kings or the man in charge. In any case, Abraham was only one individual person (the context of
this passage is the promise and law) and every man answers for his own sin. God mediated for each
man individually not as a collective. This is to say that every man can obtain the same mediation
deal because It was Gods law and promise but there is no higher authority to run to then God
himself about how to apply his own rules and intent. Thus God was the mediator between himself
and each individual man. (The deal is come to Christ and get your sins washed away, but the fact
that any man accepted this mediation deal and got his sins washed away does not extend the
washing away effects to all other men. Every man must individually accept the mediation offer or
find yourself at war with God) The whole point to coming to Christ each man must come and
submit to the mediation offer or suffer the wrath of God. (Jn 14:6) Further, the application of this
verse is general and must be true for all mediators and all mediations as such the most basic from
which all other mediations (even such as mediations between two corporations made up of several
individuals) derive from is a mediation between two different persons with opposing positions. Thus,
there is no way to claim that this verse in Galatians is not talking about mediation between two
individual persons.
(2) Even if two corporations with opposing views, this is to say that each side of the mediation had
multiple persons in each party, was the concept that Galatians was referring to, this verse would still
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eliminate the possibility that God as a being of multiple persons. The context here in Galatians is the
number of persons involved in a mediation (any and every mediation requires at least two
individuals could be more but must be at least two or more individuals) is always more then one
person v20..NOT A MEDIATOR OF ONE and the whole point to this "but" statement is to identify the
fact that where as there must be more then one person involved in a mediation, BUT God is ONE.
God, is NOT like the multiple persons involved in a mediation. The whole point to this but
statement is to identify the number of persons of God!?!? A Mediator does not mediate for ONE,
(one person or even one side of a mediation with a party consisting of multiple persons) BUT GOD
IS ONE! In any case, you cant logically claim that the context is a mediation party of multiple
different persons BUT God is NOT like that and still claim that this verse supports the idea that
God is multiple different persons!?!
No matter how one trys to interpret the parties as individual persons with opposing views or as two
different groups or parties (ie corporations) with opposing views, this verse makes a contrast
between those mediations and parties which are NOT ONE (person), But God IS ONE
(Person). Thus any attempt to lay claim that this verse does not destroy all contrary pretenses about
the fact that God is only one person is willful ignorance and delusional nonsense of the greatest
magnitude.
If we continue to look at Galatians, a little latter in verse 28, we can see again the use of the word
heis but this time it is not a reference to a number of persons but rather a reference to a number of
positions or a number of class/status that are found in the church or in Christ. The word One is not a
reference to the saints being one but rather the contrast between all the different classes outside of
Christ verses the singular status or class that exist inside of Christ.

NEITHER Jew nor Greek, there is NEITHER bond nor free, there is
NEITHER male nor female: FOR ye are ALL ONE in Christ Jesus. The
Gal 3:28. There is

comparison/contrast is between two different status or classes or positions of people outside of

Christ verses the only ONE position/class/status of those people who are in Christ. This is NOT the
same thing as several different persons or parts operating as one. The One here is a qualification of
the number of positions and status that people in the church have it is not about how many persons
make up that status or how many persons can be one in purpose or unity. There is no:
1. UPPER CLASS/STATIUS POSITION (Jew, Free, Male)
2. LOWER CLASS/STATIUS POSITION (Gentile, Bond/slave, Female)
Multiple different classes do not exist IN CHRIST .FOR (because) you are all HEIS (ONE as
in one CLASS.) There Is ONLY ONE CLASS in Christ, which is Christian or saved, there is NO
upper class or lower class IN CHRIST Also note the author is NOT saying that multiple different
persons make up that one class either. He is only saying that no matter who you are in Christ you
only have one status or belong to one class only. (Another good example would be: ye are not blue
or green or red for you are all one color red This statement would not and could not be said to
designate that all the people working or coming together make up the color(s) red it is a simple fact
that ONE color red is what everyone is not that multiple different persons working together so as to
be the color red!) Here the Heis/one denotes the singularity of the class (or status of saved) that all
Christians are of. If the Greek word HEN were used it would denote that a given class was created
by the multiple different persons that come together to form it. However, here the emphasis is on the
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ONE CLASS (see also one blood Acts 17:26) itself as opposed to multiple or different classes that
are in Christ, The emphasis and address is NOT on the number of persons that class constitutes as if
the word Hen were used. A good example is the imperative for different members of the body of
Christ (1Cor 12:14-22) as opposed to saying your all one race (the human race) that one race is
not created by having different members (one person or a thousand, still and only the same one
race). But with a body you have different parts and it takes those different parts to constitute a body
as Paul stated:. 1Cor 12:19. And if they were all one member, where were the body? 20. But now
are they many members, yet but one body.
The word HEN would be used in the example of you are all ONE (HEN) body. A body has
various different parts each part does not consist of a complete or whole body by itself, but only a
part of a single body. However, the use of HEIS here points out that the oneness here is not like the
different parts of one body made up of different members but rather there is only one Class (see also
one blood Acts 17:26). Each and all Christians have that one status/class (saved/Christian) in
whole not in part. This is not saying that that each and every one in the church make up a class/status
of saved but rather that each and every one have that status in whole not in part. With hen(one)
the members of a body are just smaller parts of a complete whole. Each individual in Christ is saved
(heis/one-class/status) wholly/total not as a part in salvation. However with hen (you are all one
body) each individual in Christ is not a whole body of Christ but only a part of a whole body. The
emphasis is on the singularity of the class/status that each Christian has in total, not on any set of
part(s) or members of that whole.
While hen can refer to multiple persons OR multiple parts of the same person as one, heis can
only refer to one single individual undivided person when addressing living beings (or singular
thing as in one salvation) as such logically God can only be one person with parts. The Trinitarian
argument is incoherent and certainly not consistent with itself. Logically if two things both apply
they can only apply in a way that they do not contradict each other.(you cannot appeal to self
contradiction in terms to make a valid argument). The members that constitute the church are "Hen"
but cannot be "heis" and multiple persons is obviously demanded. On the other hand, your head and
right arm are both "Hen" and "Heis" this can only be logically coherent as ONE PERSON with parts
or parts of the same person. Likewise; Father and son are both "hen" and God is only ever "heis".
Thus, logically father and son (who are God) can only be parts/portions of the same person who is
only one person God. This is even further reinforced by the fact that the passages that speak about
the person of God do so in the singular tense as well. Thus how you wish to define the word
person is irrelevant, because no matter what the definition is there can only be a singular (one)
person of God. (In any case, take note that having flesh or not has nothing to do with what
constitutes or defines what a person is except in the minds of those who have invented a new flavor
of heresy in their attempts to claim that God is not a person only Jesus was a person; They are just
as hypocritical as any other Trinitarian because of the personal pronouns that on the one hand
demand a different god entities to pray and speak with each other on the one hand while denying
that God is or has person even though the same personal pronouns do not magically
disappear when you look away!? Further, the idea that God is not a person or have person
only condems them futher for God Said he is ONE if the ONE does not refer to person (even
though the constructs demand it) then God certainly cannot be three if God claims to be one. For
whatever the ONE refers to you cannot break it up into three different ones. Since God claims to
be ONE ( especially if "ONE" does not refer to "person" but to something else) then you have even
less excuse for contradicting God by making God into three different "somethings" )

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There is nothing in any of the verses that trinitarins cite that demand different persons. They only
demand distinctions, but a distinction is not a different person and there are specific verses that state
that the father is the same person as the son and the son is the same person as the father in both the
OT and NT . thus the Trinitarian argument is not just weak it is nonexistent. They are trying to take
possible interpretations of one passage to overturn and reverse the meaning of specific passages
that make demands. That is the doctrine of devils and fools.
OTHER IMPARITIVES

GOD,
HIS SON
WHO
THE EXPRESS IMAGE OF HIS (GODS)
PERSON,
(A). Hebrews 1:1.

who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets, 2. Hath in these last

days spoken unto us by

, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds; 3.

being

the brightness of his glory, and

and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the

Majesty on high; 4. Being made so much better than the angels, as he hath by inheritance obtained a more excellent name than they. 5. For unto which of
the angels said he at any time, Thou art my Son, THIS

DAY HAVE I BEGOTTEN THEE? And again, I WILL BE TO HIM A

FATHER, AND HE SHALL BE TO ME A SON? 6. And again, WHEN HE BRINGETH IN THE FIRSTBEGOTTEN
INTO THE WORLD, he saith, And let all the angels of God worship him. 7. And of the angels he saith, Who maketh his angels spirits, and his
ministers a flame of fire. 8. But UNTO THE SON HE SAITH, THY THRONE, O GOD, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is
the sceptre of thy kingdom.

1. GODOF HIS PERSON, (notice the object of the phrase His person here is GOD
not father or Jesus the object of the phrase His person here is GOD ..it states .GOD HIS
PERSON You cant simply assume father and dismiss holy spirit or any other person that is
presumed to be the same one God. Particularly if youre going to accept that father son and Holy
Spirit are all the same ONE GOD. If they are not the same one God then there is no way to
claim the Trinitarian is not a polytheist pagan or that they only worship one God. But however,
again Trinitarians like to play both sides of the fence as the saying goes. On the one hand Jesus
must be the same one God as the father otherwise they are two different gods, not one god
but on the other hand they also want one god to be just the father while the son is another
god they just dont want to say it that way because they know they are just pagan liars and
thieves (Jn 10:1 )..... Thus God states "VERBATIM" He [God]is a person not personS). There is
NO verses anywhere that refer to the persons (plural) of God. The only scriptures that refer to
God and person do so in the singular tense, NEVER the plural. Yet another big hint!?! The
trinitarins on the other hand like to have their cake and eat it too as the saying goes. On the one
hand there is one GOD on the other you split God up into different persons and say it is the same
ONE God but, if they are all the same God ..then that Verse states THE ONE GOD has a
PERSON singular.....so you cant take your trinitarian conclusion that there are three different
persons to then use to interpret the verse as saying the person of the father is one because: (a) it
does not say only the father and not the holy spirit et al, it states God is one. (Particularly if your
going to accept that father son and Holy Spirit are all the same ONE GOD; because otherwise
you are left with other different gods then GOD)..... (b) Using your conclusion as the premise [or
interpretive tool] for your arguments of what the scriptures is called a circular fallacy!?!) Thus,
Jesus is the one God; God has a person...Father is the same one God; God has one
person......Holy Spirit is the same one God; God has one person. The only way to make this refer
to the father while excluding the Holy Spirit and the Son who are the same one God is to have
different gods each with his own person......God ..His (referring to God) person. If His refers
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to Father God person only then there must be another different God also because God is in the
singular tense, Father is in the singular tense. Thus either Jesus is the same God who has a person
or this god is a different god. What is modified here is the word God not father and neither is the
holy spirit magically excluded!?! For this not to show one singular person for God it would have
to state: The Father.. His person. That still would not prove that the fathers person is a
different person then the son but it would at least allow the possibility for there to be. However,
as it is worded it prevents God from having more then one person period!.
2. Some would point to hupostasis for "person" in Hebrews 1:3 and then attempt to deny the
meaning by arguing such things as It is the same word used for "substance" in Hebrews 11:1 but
faith is not a "person". But the that logic does not follow:
(A) The fact that faith has substance or being does not then invalidate or redline what the
substance is for People or God or other living entities (ie angles; which is person-hood)
Man is made in the image of God. (The fact that faith has substance does not invalidate
the fact that the substance of men and God is PERSON-HOOD; God has a person and a
man is made in the image of God with person-hood; Jesus person hood was God and
God only has one)It is not that complicated almost every translation uses the word
person, or being or nature (That is the issue being addressed here, what is the "nature" or
being of of God; Three different persons or One person) because things and people can
have substance or essence. You cannot simply claim it is one nature but has three
different persons because you cant establish the difference between Gods nature and His
person in the first place. However, it is the best English word for what is under
discussion. Faith has substance but so do you and so does God that substance is the
person and why it is translated as such. Any attempts at denying the person of God in this
verse is really just linguistic acrobatics and word wrangling.
(B) No matter how you want to translate the word hupostasis God only has a singular
NOT plural hupostasis so you still have no bases for three different hupostasis nor
for three different persons of God. This is particularly, true since if anyone is going to
deny that God is a person, then God certainly cannot be three different persons. We
should note also that this eliminates the other bit of double speak that some attempt in
claiming that God is three different personalities as if three different personalities is
and is not the same thing as three different persons (at the same time, in the same way);
in that the three different personalities talk to each other (so that they are not left with
just one person talking to himself) while at the same time try to skirt the obvious
contradiction of having multiple/three different persons (kind of like a comedian who
uses different personas for his various skits). God is not three different persons nor is he
three different personalities. He is One God who sent his right arm via a physical birth
into human flesh and the voices and prayer came for the benefit/sake of human flesh not
for Gods benefit!?! I will also point out the existence of a strange new and bizarre heresy
that attempts to justify or ignore the trinity by claiming that God is NOT a person. God
claims to be a person in both English and the original Greek terms that God uses. But this
requires little more then just awareness of the existence of that doctrinal heresy.
~ Note how some translations Job 13:8 While they may have been Trinitarian it matters not
because God preserves his word which would include the word about Himself.
(B). Hebrews 1:1.

GOD, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets, 2. Hath in these last days spoken

unto us by HIS SON, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds; 3. WHO being the brightness of his glory, and THE
EXPRESS IMAGE OF HIS (GODS) PERSON, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on

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the right hand of the Majesty on high; 4. Being made so much better than the angels, as he hath by inheritance obtained a more excellent name than they. 5.
For unto which of the angels said he at any time, Thou art my Son,

THIS DAY HAVE I BEGOTTEN

THEE?
I WILL BE TO HIM A FATHER, AND HE SHALL BE TO ME A SON?
WHEN HE BRINGETH IN THE FIRSTBEGOTTEN
INTO THE WORLD
And again,

6. And again,

, he saith, And let all the angels of God worship him. 7. And of the angels he saith, Who maketh his

angels spirits, and his ministers a flame of fire. 8. But UNTO THE

SON HE SAITH, THY THRONE, O GOD, is for ever and ever: a

sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom.

(1). Another quick note on the backwards thinking of Trinitarians: They will appeal to passages
such as Acts 13:33, Rom. 1:4 to try to demonstrate that this day I have begotten thee is not a
reference to any beginning for the Son of God (such as Christ becoming the son of God with the
birth into human flesh) but rather just a proclamation that he is the son of God that was
proclaimed at Christ resurrection, As such they argue that this day I have gegotten then does not
imply any beginning to the son of God. However the very verses they point to show otherwise.
Acts 13:33. God hath fulfilled the same unto us their children, in that he hath raised up Jesus again; as it is also written in the second psalm,

THOU ART MY SON, THIS DAY HAVE I

BEGOTTEN THEE.
Rom 1: 3. Concerning HIS SON JESUS Christ our Lord, which was MADE OF THE SEED OF DAVID ACCORDING TO THE FLESH;

DECLARED
RESURRECTION
4. And

to be the Son of God with power, according to the spirit of holiness,

BY THE

from the dead:

There is nothing in this verse or any other that would suggest that begotten was not a direct and
specific reference to the birth of the son of man!?. Thus, rather then seeing the NT ref to psalms
here as a reference to the fact that Christ who was born the son of God was proclaimed and
proven by the resurrection , no they ignore that and try to insist that the begotten is only an some
kind of abstract expression that carries no idea of a beginning to being the son but rather
somehow only relates to the resurrection as some kind of begotten-ness. Obviously Christ was
the Son of God before his resurrection so it is only pious fiction that would try to argue
begotten cannot imply any beginning. But again the fact is the verse only relates that the son
who was already the son came and had beginning at birth (when the son by definition became a
son of man/of God) and was declared to be such at the resurrection.

JESUS, THOU SON

OF THE MOST HIGH GOD? (This is before the resurrection,
Mark 5:7. And cried with a loud voice, and said, What have I to do with thee,

Jesus Was already the son of the most High God and even demons acknowledge this fact
which is sad considering that some Trinitarians deny this fact that even demons
confessed!?!) I adjure thee by God, that thou torment me not. 8. For he said unto him, Come out of the man, thou unclean
spirit.

They attempt this to try to get around the son of God having a beginning. For the Oneness there
is no difficulty because while that part of Gods spirit (His own right arm/hand ) that would come
in the flesh had always existed, the son on the other hand is begotten and given (Isaiah 9:6
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Unto a son is GIVEN,) hen that right arm occupied human flesh with the birth of Jesus and that
son was NOT preexistent as a son until that son was given and begotten into human flesh. That is
what it means to begot a son!?!
(2.) Note the son is a son by virtue of the physical birth of male human flesh (ergo: he
son ) animated by the spirit of God, NOT the spirit of a mere human. (Lk 1:31-32; Ps 2:7; 1Jn
4:9 ) It is superfluous even fallacious to argue and deny the literal arm of God that comes and
called the son because of the physical birth into flesh (son of man) but rather insist on a
second person of God because a son must be a different person then a human father even though
Jesus did not have a human father and God does not take a wife and have children like men
do ?!?! THE SON OF GOD is a reference to the fact that human flesh was born of a women
that was caused/begotten/belongs to of God. What that WOMAN (who is of man) gave birth
to was a SON (it certainly was not a daughter) and that SON (of man/woman) was OF
GOD because it was God himself (that son of man belonged to God because it was Gods own
right arm ergo OF GOD) Son of God is NOT trying to communicate that there is a different
person who is also God but sent by a different person who is God!?!? God is a spirit in heaven
and He put a part of himself that he considers to be his own right arm into human flesh and let it
be born of man/woman ERGO: THE SON OF GOD/ SON OF MAN. God via the angel
told Mary that what was going to be born was to be called the son of God, (NOTE: here in Heb it
states I WILL BE TO HIM A FATHER, AND HE SHALL BE TO ME A SON?) NOT because the
servant/Right arm sent is a different person then the father who sent his right arm/ My servant
the son. Jesus is a literal son by virtue of the birth into human flesh NOT by virtue of having a
different person then the father. Further, it is important to understand that there was no son of
God until the son was born however that part of God himself that He considers to be Gods own
hand / right arm (by which he created all things and would latter send via a physical birth) had
always existed. The fact that God has distinctions between father son and holy spirit is not any
more incomprehensible then a man with a head and right arm and a sprit that animates them all.
One might be tempted to think that God actually intended for us to understand his nature by
using the very creation (even in the language and terminology) that was made in that image. It
appears that most everyone is looking at this all backwards. God is referring to that part of
himself that he considers to be his own right hand/Arm and sent and put into flesh and called that
his son/My servant. (because that right arm comes via physical birth) God is NOT referring
to a different person who is the son as His right hand as in he is my right hand man!
God can be understood by the things that are made and man is the visible image and likeness making the
invisible God clearly seen. Thus, trinitarians have NO excuse Rom 1:20. The fact that so many are so
ignorant of the arguments and history and OR so unwilling to see it demonstrates 2Thess 2:1112...............
That is why and what the express image of his person is plainly telling you!?! Further Jesus is the
fullness of God but not all there is to God . If Jesus were all there is to God then there would be no other
persons of God and thus you defeat your own Trinitarian argument
Your spirit animates your body just as a puppet is animated by a hand in a puppet glove. (the spirit is the
life what gives animation to the flesh) You can put your right hand into a glove or puppet and animate it.
Your spirit is animating your physical flesh. The physical flesh is nothing more then a more complex
puppet of your spirit. Jesus is nothing but that part of the spirit of God that came and occupied the same
physical flesh as you and me and animated it in the same way that we are animated by our spirits. The
difference is that our spirits were created by Jesus himself who is the father and God of all spirits. If you
find the concept of Jesus as a puppet disturbing then just look in the mirror because that is what you are!
A flesh puppet which has no inherent derogatory meaning except in the context or in the way in which
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we see it as it is otherwise used which is an entertainment or childrens educational show.. This might be
yet another hint: child like in how Gods own descriptions of himself are use so that even a child can
grasp the nature of God that God has revealed. Why?
The Following Charts shown next are conceptualized diagrams demonstrating certain concepts about Where
God is located and the location of Heaven and earth or the spiritual and physical universes. God is
omnipresent and the physical and spiritual universes (environments of men and angles/ heaven and earth) all
exist inside of God rather then God existing and limited to the inside of some environment that God himself
must depend on. God created the environments for men and angles then projects himself into his creations
which is why God is everywhere and the father and son and holy spirit can all be the same person that is
injected into those creations at different times and or different ways and yet remain undiluted or disconnected
from each other.
SLIDE # 1 Here is a diagram that graphically depicts how ONE PERSON who is God can Be everywhere at
the same time... If a omnipresent God speaks from two different locations even at the same time why is that so
amazing, why would Jesus need to be a ventriloquist?!? But perhaps you worship a small God who can only
be and act [communicate] in one location at a time [in only one way at a time] People unwittingly put god
into a box or environment for God to live in rather then God creating the box and environments for men and
angels to live you. Obviously That part of the spirit of God which is connected to the flesh that was born into
this world is connected to that flesh in a way that the rest of the same spirit of God is not. Ergo, the
distinctions between the Father, Son and Holy spirit are distinctions in function and of
circumstance/condition of the various parts of God not differences in person!?! When you were born you
were given a spirit by God but it is a human spirit and it animates your physical human flesh (your spirit does
not extend beyond your physical body)....when the flesh that was born into this world called Jesus was given a
spirit IT WAS THE SPIRIT OF GOD in it, animating it. (the part of Gods own spirit that he considers to be
his right hand)
God in heaven had a body manifested that the angels interacted with (who is described as looking like a man
who sits on a throne) The same God had a human body of physical flesh here on earth that he manifested
himself to physical man with. But the fact that God can and did take multiple different bodies at the same
time is NOT evidence that God is multiple different persons. On the contrary God sates he is one person
but it is evidence that he is a God who unlike the angles can be in different places at the same time even in
different bodies/shapes/ forms/ projections (Mat 3:16) at the same time doing different things for the very
reason that He is God and not just a spirit or an angel. In fact, Jesus is both the high priest who offered his
own blood into the holy of hollies in heaven as well as the sacrificial lamb that shed that blood AT THE
SAME TIME!! He is the spirit of Spirits the omnipresent God who is in multiple different places all at the
same time even in different forms/ manifestations/ bodies (Mat 3:16)
NOTE ON REV 21:22-23: Two different projections/forms of the same person .Part of that one
person who is God is in the form of a man sitting on the throne while at the same time a different
part of the same person God is projected looking like a lamb that was slain .....SAME
OMNIPRESENT PERSON in multiple different forms simultaneously.........It is quite Ironic that you
absolutely cannot understand/ refuse to accept one omnipresent person who is occupying multiple
different projections/forms at the same time ...NO, NO for you it could not possibly be truth. On the
other hand you have no difficulty insisting that it must be the same one omnipresent God who is
multiple different persons!?!?!............so the choice is ONE GOD who can/is/takes multiple different
forms or is multiple different persons?!?!..............What is so ironic is that without the other
scriptures to go off of then we could say that both of those are "theoretical possible in and of
themselves............. However, we do have specific scriptures with specific information where God
specifically claims to be ONE PERSON only!?!?!?........... so your choice to is deny that it is the same
person in multiple different projections/forms and insist it must be multiple different persons!?!?!......
(if only you had bothered to look and understand the charts).............YOU FOOLS, HYPOCRITES
AND BLIND GUIDES! ........your damnation will be most just

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NEXT IS: Slide #2 "where is God"?.....Jesus who is God standing at the right hand of God, YES himself!
(Acts 7:56;) ....When I sit down my right hand (an object) is at my right hand" (a location). Take a look at
the diagrams in this Chapter which conceptualizes the whole idea of "where God is". There are many other
things we shall continue to explore in this study and once you see it you should realize just how simple it all
really is. Then your next question will be how come then so few or almost no one ever saw all this before; to
which i suggest (A) a few have (B) 2 Thess 2:10-11.
It is rather ironic even hypocritical that some would also try to point to Rev 5:7. And he came and took the
book out of the right hand of him that sat upon the throne. Note the diagram could have just as easily drawn
this to show a lamb and a man sitting on a throne. They attempt to point to this verse to claim see Jesus is
not the literal right hand of God because Jesus took it out of the right hand of God and thus as such, they will
argue, Jesus must be a different person then the father.
(1) These are the same people who claim you cant take revelation literal it is symbolic and
metaphorical. These are double minded, cherry picking hypocrites. Look, verse 6 states and in the
midst of the elders, stood a Lamb as it had been slain.So, there is a man sitting on the throne but,
it was the lamb (look like a slain animal not a human man) that took the book NOT a different man
who comes and takes the book out of the hand of the man who is sitting on the throne not that it
would matter if it did for the reasons explained here, The point should become obvious once you
understand that God can take as many and as many different bodies as he chooses all at the same
time without being different persons. Remember, Christ who is our High is also the sacrificial lamb of
God, multiple simultaneous roles are not difficult for the omnipresent God. God is omnipresent
(and not limited to a singular body or body type even at the same time, Side one demonstrates the fact
that God did take multiple different bodies at the same time, so pointing to that as evidence that God is
multiple different persons is just pointing to your Trinitarian conclusion as evidence for itself!?! )
Angels are spirits also but they have bodies that they are limited/confined within/ to and they are
NOT omnipresent. God on the other hand is not confined to the limited space of a singular body.
He created all things and can take as many different bodies as he likes all at the same time without
being multiple and or different omnipresent persons! God is ONE PERSON who can be anywhere at
the same time!?
(2) Take note of the omnipresence of God and how the anthropomorphic (with the likeness of man;
hands arms, sitting on a throne or chair) God sitting on the throne is NOT everything or all there is to
God. (Obviously the same omnipresent ONE GOD was in heaven and on earth at the same time!!)
The anthropomorphic God (man sitting on the throne) is only that part of God that is manifested or
projected into the place that God created called heaven (spiritual universe); the environment where
the angles also live. God created environments for spirits and angels to live in, God exist external of
any and all environments (He is omnipresent) that angles/demons, humans et al live in. God has a
anthropomorphic projection of HIMSELF in heaven but God can be in multiple different locations
(or bodies) at the same time, doing different things because God is omnipresent/ everywhere! God is
not limited to the confines of any singular anthropomorphic manifestation/projection into heaven
or earth (Gen 18:2) because God is everywhere and anthropomorphisms are just the projections/
manifestations that God who is omnipresent (and not limited to a singular body) uses to show things
either to his other heavenly host and or to men on earth. God is not limited by any number of
anthropomorphism . But God is limited by His own word which is that he does have what he
considers to be a right arm and that is what he would send and call his son, and except you believe it
you will die in your sins! God can and is in/ manifested/projected in multiple different locations doing
multiple different things all at the same time, for the very Reason that ONLY HE the omnipresent
God could, be all in all!?!
What John saw in heaven was literal but it was not God in a box it was a box that God projected
himself into as a animal that had been slain and as the father sitting on the throne before the angels
and other heavenly host. But the omnipresent God is not totally encapsulated in any number of
different bodies and or certainly not the limited forms of a lamb and a man sitting on a throne!?
There are many different ways these diagrams could have been draw and even if you do not like my
illustrations common sense should tell you that if Jesus is God then he is the OMNIPRESENT GOD
and the difficulty is only one of proper conceptualization not anything found in the text.

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CHAPTER SIX:
WHO IS THE HOLY SPIRIT?
NOTE: The relationships between Jn Ch 1, Ch 6, Ch 14 & Ch 16 in this section
It is rather ironic that the idea that Jesus never said He and the father and or the holy spirit were the same
person is even more ridiculous then the Islamic apologist who say Jesus never said "I AM GOD". If you
dont get the punch line here it is: It is a true statement that Jesus never said the words I AM GOD (we
know that he is for other reasons using other words) On the other hand, Jesus did say as seen from Ch 1
that he and the father were the same person and now we shall see that he claims that he and the holy
spirit are the same person also but first:
Now some might point to verses such as:
Isaiah 48:16. Come ye near unto me, hear ye this; I have not spoken in secret from the beginning; from the time that it was,

HATH SENT ME.

there am I: and now THE LORD GOD, AND HIS SPIRIT,

1 Cor 2: 23. And YE ARE CHRIST'S; and CHRIST IS GOD'S.

as evidence of different persons of Christ and the Holy spirit. However, at best this only shows
distinctions not different spirits or different persons. But different persons/spirits is what you must have
if this spirit is a different person then the other spirit that was the father and or Christ. This like so
many other things compounds not helps the Trinitarian argument. God states that he only has ONE spirit
but that part of the spirit of God that is connected to flesh is distinct from the rest of the spirit of God
that is not connected to that flesh thus the distinction between them.

ONE SPIRIT

Eph 4:4. There is one body, and

, even as ye are called in one hope of your calling; 5.
ONE LORD, ONE FAITH, ONE BAPTISM, 6. ONE GOD AND FATHER of all, who is above all, and through
all, and in you all.

To have different persons (in the God-head et al) each with their own unique spirit or person from the
other two persons and subservient to just one of those spirit-persons makes a hierarchy of god persons
just like the Greek gods. The only difference is limiting the number of these god persons to three as
opposed to any other number in the other pagan pantheon of gods. Simply, claiming no it is not a
pantheon of gods. We confess God is one nature/substance/being with three different persons
(composing the god-head), simply moves the location of your pantheon from Mt Olympus up to heaven
into Gods head (but the pantheon is still there, Further, having multiple persons in one head is a mental
illness it is not divine) !?! In any case, the hint should be in the obvious question If Christ is Gods
(belongs to God, subservient to God) and co equal with God, then Christ is Gods what?? Correct
Answer: His right arm that came in the flesh via a physical birth ergo called the son of God. And His
spirit that came to them in the flesh, all the same person.
Col 2:8. Beware lest any man SPOIL YOU THROUGH PHILOSOPHY and vain DECEIT, AFTER
THE TRADITION OF MEN, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ. 9. For IN HIM
DWELLETH ALL THE FULNESS OF THE GODHEAD BODILY
All things are three, and thrice is all: and let us use this number in the worship of the gods; for, as the
Pythagoreans say, everything and all things are bounded by threes, for the end, the middle and the
beginning have this number in everything, and these compose the number of the Trinity (Aristotle,
Fourth Century B.C. quote taken from: Arthur Weigall, Paganism in Our Christianity, 1928, pp. 197-198)
It is generally, although erroneously, supposed that the doctrine of the Trinity is of Christian origin. Nearly
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unequivocally, All the ancient nations believed in the Trinity (Marie Sinclair, Countess of Caithness,
Old Truths in a New Light, 1876 p. 382).
As already demonstrated angles are elohim (gods) and there is only ONE PERSON who is THE HEAD of
the gods/ elohim. Thus the word translated as Godhead in modern translations here cannot be said to
denote multiple different persons of God even if you assumed that original word for Godhood was
translated correctly as Godhead.

.
Holy Spirit and Jesus the same spirit and same person standing next to them In the flesh
John 14:9. Jesus saith unto him, HAVE I BEEN SO LONG TIME WITH YOU, AND YET HAST THOU NOT KNOWN ME, Philip? HE THAT
HATH SEEN ME HATH SEEN THE FATHER; and how sayest thou then, Shew us the Father?.................. 10. Believest thou not that I am in the Father,
and the Father in me?.... 13 And whatsoever ye shall ask in my name, THAT WILL I DO, THAT THE FATHER MAY BE GLORIFIED in the Son.
14. If ye shall ask any thing in my name,

I WILL DO IT

. 17. Even

THE SPIRIT OF
HE

TRUTH (Jn 14:6 I AM the way, THE TRUTH,)

DEWLLETH WITH YOU (present tense/standing next to them in the flesh)
SHALL BE IN YOU (future tense In them)
: I WILL
COME TO YOU (future tense In them) Note: The spirit of Christ is the sprit of God and
;

whom the world cannot receive, .. for

...

and

18. I will not leave you comfortless

the holy spirit that is why Christ said I will come to you (to comfort them, because Christ is the
comforter). The spirit was standing next to them in flesh... ....latter it would come to them to be inside
of them (inside of their flesh as the spirit we are given).....that is why. he would send the spirit......
However, Jesus himself here makes the point that the same person who was the HOLY SPIRIT that
would come was standing next to them but lets them know I will come to you again to be Inside of
you The present condition was external to them but in the flesh dwelling with them but, the future
condition would be internal to them .. Rom 8:9 When you see or pray to the father (in the name of
the father covered further in Ch 7) you are seeing and praying to Jesus and visa versa and Jesus will
be the one to come and answer because father and son are just different parts/manifestations of the
same person!?
Col 1:27. To whom God would make known what is the riches of the glory of THIS MYSTERY among the Gentiles; WHICH IS
CHRIST IN YOU, the hope of glory: 28. Whom we preach, warning every man, and teaching every man in all wisdom; that we may
present every man perfect in Christ Jesus:

THE SPIRIT OF GOD DEWELL IN YOU

THE SPIRIT OF CHRIST

Rom 8:9.....if so be that

if any man have not

. Now

, he is none of his.........

John 6:63. It is THE SPIRIT that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: THE
SPIRIT, and they are life
Rom 8:9. But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that THE
SPIRIT OF CHRIST, he is none of his.

WORDS that I speak unto you, they ARE

SPIRIT dwell IN YOU. Now if any man have not THE

There is only ONE SPIRIT not one spirit for Christ the man another spirit for the Father person (who is
a spirit) and a third spirit called the Holy Spirit!?!?!....1Cor 12:13....There is no such thing as three
different spirits who are also the same ONE SPIRIT ...it is all the same spirit of the same person....Eph
2:18; 4: 4. There is one body, and ONE SPIRIT. Unless of course, as the trinitarians, you try to count the
father (who is a spirit) and the holy spirit as two different spirits and then of course Jesus would need his
own personal spirit also.1+1+1 make three, see how easy it is for me la-la-la-.!?!?
Col 3:16 Let THE
Rev 19:13.HIS

WORD OF CHRIST dwell IN YOU ...

NAME is called THE WORD of God;

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WILL SEND IN MY NAME
John 14:26. But

, which is THE HOLY GHOST, whom

THE FATHER

, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance,

whatsoever I have said unto you

A SON IS GIVEN:
HIS
NAME SHALL BE CALLED
COUNSELLER (This is the Holy Spirit)
THE EVERLASTING FATHER, ( Eph 4:6. One God AND Father of all)
Isaiah9:6. For unto us a child is born, unto us

Wonderful,

and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and

The mighty God,

THE PRINCE OF PEACE. (Prince is a SON)

Most people appear to be completely oblivious and do not understand the significance of IN MY
NAME they think it is just a general abstract reference to someone coming for someone else. This is
discussed in Ch 7, but the Father and the son and holy spirit all have THE SAME NAME. which is
good because the NT also states there is only ONE SPIRIT. That one spirit that was coming has the same
name as Jesus, not the letters that spell Jesus but his true highest name above all other names of God.
ONE God; ONE name; ONE spirit; ONE person. So what exactly does it mean to come in his name? It
means the very same thing as when Christ promised them that whatever they ask for IN HIS NAME
they would receive.
John 16 13 . Howbeit WHEN

HE, THE SPIRIT OF TRUTH, (Jn 14:6 I AM the way, THE TRUTH,) IS COME, HE

WILL GUIDE YOU INTO ALL TRUTH: FOR

HE SHALL NOT SPEAK OF

HIMSELF; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to
come.23.:WHATSOEVER YE SHALL ASK THE FATHER IN MY NAME

, .

You do not "Pray in the name of Jesus" by saying the the letters "I-N T-H-E N-A-M-E O-F J-E-S-US" because that is NOT his name....His name the name that we are to pray in the name of is the ONE
name of the ONE God and ONE spirit of the ONE person of God which is:
Rev 19:13:

HIS NAME is called THE WORD OF GOD

Ps 138:2.and praise THY NAME . for thou hast Thou has magnified
ABOVE ALL

THY WORD

THY NAME. ..Of all the different names God has used the word is

the highest name above all others, not the letters that spell t-h-e w-o-r-d but the
substance/essence the meaning (doctrine/ commands/sayings) et al.

THE WORD, and the Word was with God, and THE WORD WAS
GOD 14. And THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH.(Rev 13:6/ Mat
John 1:1. In the beginning was

12:31-32/Jn 6:63) The spirit which is the word was made flesh the distinctions between Christ
and the Holy Spirit are in circumstance and part but it is the very same person.
The very passages that so many want to appeal to for the doctrine of three different persons completely
destroys their own argument in a blaze of self-defeating glory like moths to a flame. Jesus was with
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God and was God because only that part of God that part of THE WORD came to man in the flesh and
the holy spirit was the same spirit in fact the very same words which are that same spirit.
John 6:63. It is THE

SPIRIT that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing:

ARE SPIRIT

THE WORDS

that I speak unto you, they

, and they are life

Rom 8:9.....if so be that THE SPIRIT OF GOD DEWELL IN YOU. Now if any man have not THE
SPIRIT OF CHRIST, he is none of his.........
Rom 8:9. But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that THE SPIRIT dwell IN YOU. Now if
any man have not THE SPIRIT OF CHRIST, he is none of his.

Mat 10:40. He that

RECEIVETH YOU (Because of that Word) receiveth me,

(The Word) and he that receiveth me receiveth him that sent me.(The Word)
The spirit of God is his word, the word is with God and the word was God; the name of God is his word.
When you pray according to the will of God you are praying IN THE NAME OF JESUS .NOT when
you use the letters "I-N T-H-E N-A-M-E O-F J-E-S-U-S" That idea is one of those many "sound bites
of ignorance" that everyone likes to rally around but no one knows what they are talking about or what it
means. It is a pavlovian response, your supposed to say certain words and make certain a-men(s)
almost as if it were all just incantations but not of silly magic. No, this is serious theology!?! When
God sent the spirit of Christ because there is only one spirit he sent that part of the spirit that was not
connected to the flesh but it was the same spirit. That part of the spirit of God did not speak of himself
(Jn 16:13) but rather spoke concerning the other part of that same spirit that was connected to the flesh
(Jesus) which DID speak about that part of the spirit that was not connected to the flesh (in his
comments on the holy spirit) !?!? This is but one more coherent demonstration for the demand of parts of
the same person/ same spirit manifested in different ways as opposed to the incoherence of trinity which
would have you believe that it is even possible to claim that different persons and or spirits who have
greater or lesser degrees of authority and power who worship each other is to be considered worship of
One God. You fools you worship a pantheon of three!?!
Further, the significance of the fact that the spirit of Christ is the Holy Spirit in that flesh was the whole
point to Christ words here:

SAID, THIS FELLOW DOTH NOT

CAST OUT DEVILS, BUT BY BEELZEBUB THE
PRINCE OF THE DEVILS
Mat 12:24. But when the Pharisees heard it, they

. 25. And Jesus knew their thoughts, and said unto them, Every kingdom divided
against itself is brought to desolation; and every city or house divided against itself shall not stand: 26. And if Satan cast out Satan, he is divided against
himself; how shall then his kingdom stand? 27. And if I by Beelzebub cast out devils, by whom do your children cast them out? therefore they shall be your
judges. 28. But

IF I CAST OUT DEVILS BY THE SPIRIT OF

GOD,

then the kingdom of God is come unto you. .. 31. Wherefore I say unto you, ALL MANNER

OF SIN AND
BLASPHEMY SHALL BE FORGIVEN UNTO MEN: BUT THE BLASPHEMY AGAINST THE HOLY GHOST
SHALL NOT BE FORGIVEN UNTO MEN. 32. And whosoever speaketh a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him:

BUT WHOSOEVER SPEAKETH AGAINST THE HOLY

GHOST, IT SHALL NOT BE FORGIVEN HIM,
neither in this world,

neither in the world to come.

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The son of man was the flesh but the spirit that animated that flesh to call that a demon is very very
precarious. The part of Gods spirit connected to that human flesh in a way that the rest of the spirit of
God was not is why Christ can say things such as:

EVEN THE SON

OF MAN WHICH IS IN HEAVEN. So how can a person be in two
John 3:13. And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven,

different places at the same time?

An ordinary man cannot make this claim, but a omnipresent God is everywhere so that fact that our
omnipresent God who is also Jesus was in heaven and on earth standing next to them at the same time is
not a argument for multiple different persons. The fact that Christ makes this claim is just another nail in
the coffin for the doctrine of different persons, NOT an argument for them. Jesus is making a point of his
Divinity but contrary arguments would have Jesus words of no effect and make him less then the
omnipresent God who created the universe and can be anywhere and everywhere all at the same time.
Mat 23:8. But be not ye called Rabbi: FOR ONE IS YOUR MASTER, EVEN CHRIST; and all ye are brethren. 9. And call no
man your father upon the earth: for one is YOUR FATHER, WHICH IS IN HEAVEN. 10. Neither be ye called masters: FOR
ONE IS YOUR MASTER, EVEN CHRIST.

Note the similarity in how that the father which is in heaven is bracketed in front of and at the
end with for One is your master, even, Christ. Why is the father in heaven flanked by Christ/
The answer should be obvious. Christ is Identifying His spirit not his flesh as the father. On
earth, their master was standing in front of them in the flesh, but the spirit that is both in heaven
and on earth standing in front of them is the Father because they are the same person.
Example: if the air above the water was heaven and the water was the earth below, a man in a
boat (standing in heaven) can SEND his right arm down into (descend) the water and then pull it
back up (ascend)the man is one person who is in heaven(on the boat out of the water) and on
earth (in the water) at the same time.the hand will ascend and descend into and out of the
water(the earth)......................Christ ascends and descends because there is a distinction between
that part of God in heaven and that part of the same GOD on earth standing in front of
them.that part of God standing in front of them did descend but it is still the same person
and same God that is still in heaven at the same time for the very reason that Jesus is the ONE
omnipresent God while God is great His own words about his own nature are not that difficult
to understand, except for the faithless.
The only way these things can be understood is as the person of God sending his right arm via a physical
birth into the world. You can only understand all the scriptures in the way that God describes it. You
cannot understand it using the doctrine of trinity. Every passage that people think shows three different
persons can only coherently and consistently be understood as one person with a head and right arm and
spirit but not as three different persons. If you were a spirit I could send your right arm (angels who are
also spirits also have spiritual bodies) to us in a leather glove (of flesh) but there is no way to claim that
you will send someone else who is not as great as you are who is obedient to you and still claim that
other person is co-equal with you. When the right arm came to mankind to communicate what the head
gave it to communicate to mankind it communicated the information about the God who OWNED that
right arm, that SENT that right arm gave it to communicate, about the God who was GREATER then
just the God that was standing in front of them (because the greater part of God was in heaven not on
earth, same person but not same amount of God) about the same GOD that the God standing in front of
them also worshiped and OBEYED and was subservient to. Christ is God in the flesh, the very same
God that was in heaven at the same time because there is only One God who manifest different parts and
ways not different god persons who are mystically one being that exist nowhere and has no likeness
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anywhere except in the imaginations of Trinitarians and this in spite of clear descriptions of Gods nature
as multiple parts of the same person in distinction but not of person.
ANTI-CHRIST
Trinitarianism is just as Anti-Christ as much as is ISLAM, JW, LDS, ROMAN
CATHOLIC et al because (they all confess the Christ/messiah came in the flesh, Yes even
Islam claims Jesus was the Jewish messiah/Christ who was to come) they all deny WHO
it was (what person) that came (to be the Christ) in the flesh!?!
The following verse makes the point about anit-christ which applies to Trinitarians..How?!?
1John 2:18. Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that ANTICHRIST shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we
know that it is the last time. 19. THEY WENT OUT FROM US, BUT THEY WERE NOT OF US; FOR IF THEY HAD

BEEN OF US, THEY WOULD NO DOUBT HAVE CONTINUED WITH US: BUT THEY WENT OUT, THAT THEY
MIGHT BE MADE MANIFEST THAT THEY WERE NOT ALL OF US. 20. But ye have an unction from the Holy One, and ye
know all things. 21. I have not written unto you because ye know not the truth, but because ye know it, and that no lie is of the truth. 22. Who is a liar but
he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? HE IS ANTICHRIST, THAT DENIETH THE FATHER AND THE SON. 23.

WHOSOEVER DENIETH THE SON, THE SAME HATH NOT THE FATHER: [BUT] HE THAT
ACKNOWLEDGETH THE SON HATH THE FATHER ALSO.

While they say they do not deny Christ/GOD come in the flesh the reality is that they in fact do, because
they deny WHO came in the flesh and who the PERSON of Jesus is!! Even Muslims claim to
worship the ONE GOD of Abraham/God of Jesus and confess that Jesus was the Messiah and is even
The word made flesh. Trinitarins claim to worship one God of Abraham/God of Jesus. The Muslims
worship a one God who preaches lies/carnality and for the trinitarins they worship a one God who is
three different persons who have different amounts of god knowledge/power/authority and send each
other around. Neither of those two who claim to worship the same One God of Abraham are worshiping
the ONE God that Christians are to worship. Three different persons is not the same as one person
manifested in three ways.No matter how much you claim my God is the God of Abraham, Isaac
Jacob & Jesus!?! Muslims also claim they worship the same God of Jesus also
The scriptures teach that Jesus is the same person as the father but that Jesus was also sent by the father.
Here is the problem, if your a trinitarian those are two different spirits and or persons (as opposed to
different parts of the same spirit and person).....one person sends the other person rather then the same
person sending a part of himself. However, that is what it means here to deny one is to deny the other,
because they are the same person. If you claim that they are two different persons then you deny who the
son is and likewise who the father is.
-Jesus Claims to be the I am He in Isaiah
-Jesus Claims He was sent by the father
-God claims to send himself and he himself will be the son of God because of the physical birth
into human flesh
Looking back at chapter two, note and read carefully, in those verses in Isaiah. Isaiah states that
someone is going to send someone. Now whichever "God-person(s)" you think is speaking in these
verses, It makes clear that the same person speaking would also be the same person coming/sent and in
that day they would know that it was "I" speaking "I AM HE" The I AM HE in Isaiah sent himself
and it was himself that came in the flesh it was the father God person who sent a savior. It was the father
god person that stated that he, himself, would come in the flesh, but the doctrine of the trinity denies that
the person who is the father came in the flesh! The trinitarian cannot simply appeal to saying God came
in the flesh because their god is three different persons and the point to John 8:24-28 with Isaiah
52:6.. You have no claim to believing that Jesus is the "I am HE" if you believe in the trinity because
Trinity holds God in three different persons who are each God...so to you Jesus is not HE but "some
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other person sent by some other Him"!?! "WHO" it was (what person) that came "IN THE FLESH", IS
THE DETERMINING FACTOR IN WHAT IT MEANS TO BE ANT-CHRIST! To deny the father is
to deny the son because they are one and the same person that came in the flesh!

John 14: 8. Philip saith unto him, Lord,

SHEW US THE FATHER

,.. 9. Jesus saith unto

him, HAVE I BEEN SO LONG TIME WITH YOU, AND YET HAST THOU NOT KNOWN ME,
Philip? he that hath SEEN ME HATH SEEN THE FATHER; and how sayest thou then, Shew us the Father?

The "oneness" between Christ and the father is not comparable to a man and his wife, for
only a fool would say "When you have seen me you have seen my wife, how sayest thou
then, Shew us your wife?" Notice they asked to see THE FATHER and the response was
Jn 14:9 ..HAVE I BEEN SO LONG time with you, and yet hast THOU NOT KNOW
ME, Philip.....Now image some fool trying to claim that statement if you asked to see his
wife!?!!? The whole point to Christ statements is that he is the SAME person as the father
[you want to see the FATHER but have I been with you but you dont know me!?!?!]
because God is only one person not three different persons. Ironically, the father will in
turn identify the son as the father also.
FOR MANY DECEIVERS ARE ENTERED INTO THE WORLD, WHO CONFESS NOT that Jesus CHRIST
IS COME IN THE FLESH. This is a deceiver and an antichrist. 8. Look to yourselves, that we lose not those things which we have wrought, but
that we receive a full reward. 9. WHOSOEVER TRANSGRESSETH, AND ABIDETH NOT IN THE DOCTRINE OF
CHRIST, HATH NOT GOD. HE THAT ABIDETH IN THE DOCTRINE OF CHRIST, HE HATH BOTH THE
FATHER AND THE SON. 10. If there come any unto you, AND BRING NOT THIS DOCTRINE, receive him not into your house,
John 7:7.

neither bid him God speed: 11. For he that biddeth him God speed is partaker of his evil deeds.
1 John 4:1. Beloved, believe not every spirit, but TRY THE SPIRITS WHETHER THEY ARE OF GOD: BECAUSE MANY
FALSE PROPHETS are gone out into the world. 2. Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: EVERY SPIRIT THAT CONFESSETH THAT
JESUS CHRIST IS COME IN THE FLESH IS OF GOD: 3. And EVERY SPIRIT THAT CONFESSETH NOT THAT

JESUS CHRIST IS COME IN THE FLESH IS NOT OF GOD: AND THIS IS THAT SPIRIT OF ANTICHRIST,
whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.
4. Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them: because greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world. 5. They are of the world:
therefore speak they of the world, and the world heareth them. 6. We are of God: he that knoweth God heareth us; he that is not of God heareth not us.
Hereby know we the spirit of truth, and the spirit of error. 7. Beloved, let us love one another: for love is of God; and every one that loveth is born of God,
and knoweth God. 8. He that loveth not knoweth not God; for God is love. 9. In this was manifested the love of God toward us, because that God sent his
only begotten Son into the world, that we might live through him. 10. Herein is love, not that we loved God, but that he loved us, and sent his Son to be the
propitiation for our sins. 11. Beloved, if God so loved us, we ought also to love one another. 12. No man hath seen God at any time. If we love one another,
God dwelleth in us, and his love is perfected in us. 13. HEREBY KNOW WE THAT WE DWELL IN HIM, AND HE IN US,
BECAUSE HE HATH GIVEN US OF HIS SPIRIT. 14. And we have seen and do testify that the Father sent the Son to be the Saviour of
the world. 15. WHOSOEVER SHALL CONFESS THAT JESUS IS THE SON OF GOD, GOD DWELLETH IN HIM,

AND HE IN GOD.

Look at verse 12-13, do you rest your theology and salvation in the fact that you love those around
you that you consider to be of the faith? Now, look at verse 15 Do you rest your theology and
salvation on the fact that you and every other person claiming to be Christian confess that a man named
Jesus is the son of God as reason your not anit-christ? If your going to claim that since you confess that
a man named Jesus was the son of God and came in the flesh as a reason you are not anti-Christ then
every person who even claims to be a Christian, that jesus is the son of God, no matter what their
doctrine/denomination is will be saved because they all confess that Jesus is the son of God, thus God
dwelleth in them and they in God and you have no reason to try to convert anyone who claims to
believe Jesus is the son of God no matter what their doctrines/denominations are!. If the reader does not
understand the point here, it is because they fail to see in the verse and in that statement of confessing
Jesus is the son of God that the MOST IMPORTAINT principle is: who the person of the man Jesus is
(cross-reference The Name of the Lord/ The word in Chapter 7) Who the person of Jesus is the
whole crux of the matter (There is big difference between a God who sends part of himself born into the
physical world and call that part of himself his son verse multiple different persons who send each other
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around and subservient to the first person!?!) and what determines this issue of anti-Christ, not just
the fact that a man named Jesus was the son of God even the mormons and almost every denomination
without exception believe that!?! The issue is not just that a man named Jesus Christ (the savior) came
in the flesh but to deny who that man is, who the person of that man is, that came in the flesh that is
the crux of the issue and defining line of what it means to be anit-christ. Look back at 1John 2:18
1John 2:18. Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that ANTICHRIST shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we
know that it is the last time. 19. THEY WENT OUT FROM US, BUT THEY WERE NOT OF US; FOR IF THEY HAD

BEEN OF US, THEY WOULD NO DOUBT HAVE CONTINUED WITH US: BUT THEY WENT OUT, THAT THEY
MIGHT BE MADE MANIFEST THAT THEY WERE NOT ALL OF US. 20. But ye have an unction from the Holy One, and ye
know all things. 21. I have not written unto you because ye know not the truth, but because ye know it, and that no lie is of the truth. 22. Who is a liar but
he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? HE IS ANTICHRIST, THAT DENIETH THE FATHER AND THE SON. 23.

WHOSOEVER DENIETH THE SON, THE SAME HATH NOT THE FATHER: [BUT] HE THAT
ACKNOWLEDGETH THE SON HATH THE FATHER ALSO.

To deny who is the person of the man Jesus is to deny who the person of the father is because they are
the same person. If they were not the same person then a denial of one person would not be a denial of
the other person automatically because by definition two different persons are not synonymous. The
whole point to these passages is showing that the person of the son and the father are synonymous. The
fact that you confess that a man named Jesus was the son of God does not acknowledge the person of the
son and the person of the father. The son is the word of God to deny the word is to deny the father who
sent that word. To deny the word of God (the son) is to deny the God (father) who sent that word. Even
if you were still unsure that the father and the son were the same person, you would still be left with the
unavoidable fact that if the father and the son are the same person, then to deny who is the person of the
father is to deny who is the person of the son and to deny who is the person of the son is to deny who is
the person of the father. Thus, as a Trinitarian there could be no expectation of salvation as an antiChrist.
James 2:19. Thou believest that there is ONE

GOD; thou doest well: THE DEVILS ALSO BELIEVE, and tremble.

First notice that James makes a point of stating a belief in ONE GOD as opposed to the pagan practices
of that day of worshiping multiple different gods. Trinitarins do not even have a claim to believing that
there is one God, Calling your pantheon one God does not magically make the pantheon of god persons
disappear or force reality to conform to your confessions of faith!?! Three different persons who are
each god with different amounts of god knowledge power and authority does not fool anyone except the
fools who will believe that the three are one and one is three and you have called on the name of the
Lord because, well..you confessed all of that, so it must be true. Now the words of Christ are spirit
(Jn 6:63 the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.) the words of Christ only
describe and define God as ONE and as we shall see in chapter six a specific Greek word that ONLY
refers to ONE person when speaking of individuals. It is outright willful blatant stupidity to attempt to
claim that God is an individual of three different persons and the spirit that claims God is three different
persons is NOT the spirit of Christ!
The pious Trinitarians are not just fools and heretics but of the spirit of antichrist! They say they love
God and each other but they lie to each other and deny the person of the God and the son of God they
say they love!?! No claim that the idea that the son is a different person then the person that sent the son
namely the father is the same or equivalent in terms of salvation as the idea that one person sent a part of
himself in flesh via a physical birth ergo called the son of God. Those have no equivalency in terms of
practical application or in terms of salvation. Trinitarians are aware of this fact which is why they try so
hard in claiming that if you do not believe in trinity then you are damned because they know there is no
equivalency between the two. If one is true the other must be heretical and or anti-Christ. They have
brought the lies and now boxed themselves into a corner knowing that they have nothing to loose for if
they are wrong (they have convinced themselves they are not wrong) then they nor their ancestors have
any hope of salvation they are all eternally damned. This would also mean the vast overwhelming
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majority of people who claim to be Trinitarians (I have found a few truly have no idea what it means
such as by virtue of the fact they would honestly, not with pretense, confess they are Trinitarians but
deny that God is three different persons until you explained to them what it means; that had been their
understanding their whole life) are lost and they will all burn together with the pagans and heretics.
Trinitarians is a all or nothing proposition both in the practical reality as well as the dogma. This is also
why they are so dogmatic about their doctrine, not because it is true but because they want to believe
that it is true and that any other possible thought of it not being true is too horrible to bear and too cruel
to conceive. Never the less, the fact is the same person speaking in those verses is the same exact person
that was going to (1) send someone to come (2) be the same person that was coming or sent. The person
being sent was the right arm/ "I am he" (this is Jesus). To deny that the person of Jesus is the person of
the father who sent him (in the same way that your head can send or put your hand into a leather glove)
is to deny the person of the father and so to be a anti-Christ.
However, This puts Trinitarians in a dammed if you do and dammed if you dont position. Here is
what I mean. If youre a Trinitarian then obviously the father god/person sent another/different son
god/person. However, Isaiah states that the same person sending is the same person that would be sent in
the flesh. To deny who the person is that was sent is to deny who the person is that sent them and if they
are one and the same person but you deny this then you are anti-Christ for you deny that the person of
God came in the flesh for you another different god person then the God person who said he was going
to send himself.
Thus Trinitarians either have to deny that the I AM HE in Isaiah SENT a part of HIMSELF in
the flesh (Anti-Christ 1Jn 4:3 et al; His own right arm; that he would call his son because of
the physical birth into the physical world)
OR
Deny that the I AM HE (the person of the sender) Came in the flesh (Which is alsoAntiChrist 1Jn 4:3 et al)
Did the Trinitarian Jesus send Himself, No! Christ state that he is in fact the I AM HE of Isaiah (the
same person who sent himself) that was the one sent and came! Either way Trinitarians must deny who
Jesus is. They deny that the God/spirit person speaking in Isaiah is the same God/spirit/person that came
in the flesh. That is what it means to be of the spirit of Antichrist! Trinitarin, your god and Jesus is no
more able to save you then the Muslims idea of who Jesus is (a prophet and good Muslim) able to save
them. On the other hand the person of the oneness Jesus (who is the right arm of the same person of
the head) did send himself and holy men of God spoke (recording it) just as the spirit of Christ gave it to
them to say. The man to come, Jesus, is the same person that sent that man. They are only distinctions.
The father who is the head that sent Jesus in the same way that your head is distinct from your right arm
and your right arm does what your head tells it to do. Even so, head and right arm (father & son) are and
must be the very same person.
What the Trinitarians are left argue for is three different god/spirit persons/who are each different
god/spirit/persons and thus the god/spirit/person in those verses sending his right arm is not the same
god/spirit/person as the god/spirit/person who would be known as the "i am He" (right arm) in thoes
verses...This is why Christ stated Jn 14:9....ergo trinitarians are called antichrist because they are
preaching that a different god/spirit/person came not the same person/spirit who is the father in heaven.
Trinitarians are arguing that the god/spirit/person who was speaking in Isaiah et al was not the same
god/person/spirit who was sent and came but rather a another different god person/spirit sent by the first
god/person/spirit ....They literally preach "ANOTHER JESUS" (2Cor 11:4. For if he that cometh
preacheth another Jesus, whom we have not preached, or if ye receive another spirit, which ye have not
received, or another gospel, which ye have not accepted, ye might well bear with him.) ..God is a spirit
one spirit not three different spirits one in heaven one on earth and a different holy spirit
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person...........That is why to deny that the ONE GOD SPIRIT PERSON who spoke in Isaiah is the very
same ONE that came Is to deny Christ, to Be Antichrist, and they will die in their sins because they have
no claim to believing "I AM HE" in Jn 14:9. That is the whole point to the verses in Jn 14:9 as well as in
Isaiah et a!?!?
So while Trinitarians are quick to complain that God was not talking to himself at Christ baptism or in
Gen let us they ignore the logical demands of their own theology! If Jesus is the ONE GOD in flesh
and the Father is the SAME ONE GOD in heaven then Trinitarianism demands THE ONE GOD is
talking to HIMSELF the same being! Claiming that God is multiple different persons as the reason for
why God is not talking to himself (because God is three different selfs) only demonstrates that what
they really worship is in fact not a ONE GOD who talks to himself but three different god selfs/ and
they all talk to each other! When they speak about who God was talking and praying to, they are quick
to say the other person, NOT HIMSELF! But if you ask them how many gods do they pray to then
they will say ONLY ONE!?! They expect you to believe that those three different persons are THE
ONE GOD-BEING which is like calling three different cars THE ONE VEHICLE (they are text
book examples of prov 26:12) This of course is all nonsense and just polytheism with different wrapping
paper and a bow on top. (remember this is not one of those unscrupulous pyramid schemes this is a
trapezoid with a solid foundation!?!) If Jesus is not the same ONE GOD that the father is then no
amount of denials can overcome the fact that Trinitarians would still be talking and worshiping to
different (and in this case) ONE GODS. If however, Jesus/father are the same ONE GOD then
Trinitarianism cannot escape the fact that THE ONE GOD would still have to pray and or talk to
HIMSELF at some point. Denials only solidify the fact that they do pray and or worship to three
different gods; three different god selfs and the only place you can find a being that is three different
persons is in the logic and heads of fools who think they worship one God only that does not talk to
himself.
A tree is known by its fruit...In the beginning God said you will die; Satan came along and stated you
will be more "wise".....God and His Children said God is one; Satan's children say no three or triune
God is more "wise"...You are of your father the devil. Those who believe in God in three persons are
noting but polytheist who insist and confess that they are true monotheist....like liars and thieves who
insist and confess they are not lying and stealing...!?! All liars will have their part in the lake of fire.
The fact you claim to be or not to be something does not make it true. You cannot believe in three
persons of God if you believe in one God. Three persons is by definition plurality of persons (godS not
God) simply laying claim to it is "beyond comprehension" to explain or understand, but "don't worry we
confess that we are monotheist and are not polytheist" is in fact just delusional.

Pyramid

Trapezoid

CHAPTER SEVEN:
IN THE NAME OF THE FATHER PART 2
Mat 28:19 does not outline three different names, o ye fools and blasphemers!?!

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Phil 2:9. Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and given HIM A NAME WHICH IS ABOVE EVERY NAME:; Acts 4:12. Neither is there
salvation in any other: for there is NONE OTHER NAME under heaven given among men, WHEREBY WE MUST BE SAVED.

What about the trinity formula??.....Mat 28:19.

NAME OF

the

FATHER,

and of the

SON,

Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them

IN THE

and of the HOLY GHOST:

Some look at this verse and see direct evidence of three different persons, which is quite bizarre since
This passages specifically makes the point that Father son and holy spirit all have the same name by
placing them side by side equating those with each other as the same person!.. The passage is NOT
making a distinction of three different names we are to worship in, pay homage to, baptize into!?! On
the contrary, by placing them in the same list with each other, it identifies that father son and Holy spirit
have the SAME NAME! (Phil 2:9. Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and given HIM A
NAME WHICH IS ABOVE EVERY NAME:; Acts 4:12. Neither is there salvation in any other: for
there is NONE OTHER NAME under heaven given among men, WHEREBY WE MUST BE SAVED.)
(1) Father is not a name it is a title just as is son and Holy Spirit is not the name of the holy
spirit it is the title of the spirit of God. Im a father and a son does not mean I am multiple
different persons too?!? Remember the ONE GOD is also the son of the same ONE GOD
otherwise we are looking for godS (then the One God is not truly one). Further, as already
demonstrated previously (in Chapter five) God is a spirit and there is only ONE SPIRIT not one
spirit of the father a different spirit for the son and a third spirit called the holy spirit. They are all
the same spirit of the same person acting/functioning in various ways at various times. (Heb 1:1
diverse ways not different persons see )
(2) The fact that three things are mentioned in a list is not a proof of three different things or
persons. In fact, in writing and or public speaking there is a technical use called a tetracolon and
also rule of three it was widely used by the Greeks and roman orators of whom it is said
perfected it even today in modern language it is widely used and scriptures use the same basic
construct. A good example of this can be seen here in Revelation
Rev 1:2 Who bare record of (1) THE WORD of God, and of (2) THE TESTIMONY of Jesus Christ, and of (3)
all THINGS THAT HE SAW. (Rev 19:9..These are the true sayings of God. .10for the testimony

of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy.)

All three of these things are the same thing/ message addressed from three different perspectives
(or portions/parts) or ways of saying the same thing; It is NOT three different messages or
testimonies or Words of God !?!
(3) As shown at the beginning in chapter one that the OT identifies the father as the son, and the
NT the son himself identifies himself as the father. That part of ONE person God that God
considers to be his right arm/hand is what came. That right arm/hand occupied/ animated the
human flesh we call Jesus in the very same way that your right hand put into a leather glove can
animate that flesh. However, that leather glove can only know and or communicate and or do the
work you give it to do. No place for the Idea of multiple/different persons of God period!
(4) There is only one name whereby men are saved (Acts 4:12) It is the name of the Lord that
scriptures state our faith is in (Acts 3:16; 1John 3:23) Hint it is NOT J-E-S-U-S?!?) That ONE
name is the same name that the Father has it is the same name the son uses and the same name
by which the Holy spirit is referenced..

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Rev 19:13 And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and

HIS NAME IS CALLED

THE WORD OF GOD;

"to confess His name" or to "wear the name of Christ" is to keep the commands/ keep my
sayings (Rev 3:8:..and hast kept my word, and hast NOT DENIED MY NAME et al.) It is NOT to
cry out Jesus, Jesus we love you.....nor is it to cry out "in the name of the Father and in the name
of the son and in the name of Holy Spirit", we love you save us from our foolishness for we are
indeed fools who reject your word (which is your name that saves us)!?!!?..Only baptism (total
emersion) into the word /commands (water baptism is a command also) and sayings of Christ is
what saves us the words are spirit (Jn 6:63) and this is also what Holy Spirit baptism is. When
you obey the commands of Christ you are keeping and confessing His name! To deny the words
is to deny the father which is to deny the son.
Psalms 138:1. I Will praise thee with my whole heart: BEFORE THE GODS (Elohim; is a classification it is not the name of God; Zech 12:8)
WILL I SING PRAISE UNTO THEE. 2. I will worship toward thy holy temple, and praise thy name for thy lovingkindness and for thy truth:

THOUS HAS MAGNIFIED THY WORD ABOVE

ALL THY NAME.
for

The HIGHEST NAME of the Lord is NOT SOME SET OF PRONOUNCEABLE LETTERS
that form a name such as John or Jesus!?! THE NAME OF JESUS/THE LORD, the only NAME
WHEREBY MEN ARE SAVED IS THE WORD!!.(not the letters that spell "the
word" but the substance/essence/meaning/command/ et al) It is in understanding the NAME of
the Lord that true understanding several other doctrines such as baptism is made perfectly
clear.... IF YOU DENY THE COMMAND (or the faith that it saves us) THEN YOU DENY
THE WORD, THE NAME OF THE LORD!!! Take note of what Christ considered to be the first
and foremost commandment of all
Mark 12: 28. And one of the scribes came, and having heard them reasoning together, and perceiving that
he had answered them well, ASKED HIM, WHICH IS THE FIRST COMMANDMENT OF ALL? 29,
And Jesus answered him, THE FIRST OF ALL THE COMMANDMENTS IS, Hear, O Israel,

THE LORD OUR GOD IS ONE (heis) Lord.

Except you believe it (not someones reinterpretation of it) you will die in your sins! God has
gone by many names in scripture Jesus is just another set of letters found INSIDE /subordinate
portion in the WORD OF GOD thus akin to a single brushstroke in a master painting!?! Did you
really think the Highest name of God was a name that could be pronounced by a man?!?
(Consider: Judges 13:18)

THE WORD WAS WITH GOD,

AND THE WORD WAS GOD
John 1:1. In the beginning was the Word, and

2. The same was in the beginning with God.

Your right arm is with you and It is you. The one God in heaven (Whos name is THE WORD)
sends down to earth in the flesh that part of himself that he considers to be his own right arm
(THE WORD/ Is God and is with God ) and hand (via physical birth called his son) for the
express purpose of teaching men how to live, how to pray, how to suffer, and yes even how to die
to God himself (alone)!? God sends His right hand into a glove of Flesh that we call Jesus. Jesus
is not a different or separate person in some imaginary triune God!?! It is the same person of God
described as a head (the father in heaven) and a right hand and arm that does everything from
creation to the second coming....Except ye believe this you will all die in your sins!!! (Jn
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8:24)..........This makes perfect sense when you understand the relationship between the father
God in heaven with the son who is the right hand and arm of the same God in the flesh on earth.
Christ can be in heaven and on earth because it is the one God that is in heaven occupying flesh
on earth with only a part of himself in flesh, namely His right hand and or arm. Some would try
to claim that the right hand of God is a metaphor while the son of God is LiteralFools! They
are both literal the spirit comes and was first then latter the physical things we give names to
were created to be patterned after/named after the spiritual. The spirit is the true literal. God is a
spirit, is God not literal enough for you?!? Thus in the same way that if my hand is in a glove (of
flesh) it is till connected to the rest of me that is located wherever I happen to be.
John 12:28. Father, glorify thy name. Then came there a voice from heaven, saying, I have both glorified it, and will glorify it again. 29. The
people therefore, that stood by, and heard it, said that it thundered: others said, An angel spake to him. 30. Jesus answered and said ,

THIS VOICE CAME NOT BECAUSE OF ME, BUT

FOR YOUR SAKES.
God sent his right hand and arm in the flesh via a physical birth to show men how to live, pray, worship,
suffer and die for Godfor Jesus himself ..nothing difficult to understand?? How many other
Gods are there for God to pray to? The real question is how can you pretend to worship one God when
you hold to an argument that Jesus must have been praying to another different person?! There is only
One God for God to pray to!?! Or is Jesus not God?!?
If we take stock in what we have examined even just up to this part of our study we can find the
STRONGEST evidence that Christ is in fact God and those who are running around claiming that Jesus
never claimed to be God are not just willfully ignorant of the scriptures but woefully so, in a woe, woe,
woe, you should know kinda way.
Who is the God of this different person who is lesser then His God and yet is God Himself..Who is
the God of God if there is only One God?
Jesus is the one God but is also the son of the same one God
Jesus is the one God But also the servant of the same one God
Jesus is the one God But also loves/is loved by the same one God
Jesus is the one God But also not as great as the same one God et al ad fin
If you claim to worship one God only then Who is this God of God!? There are only two basic
possibilities. Either you rest your souls in self contradictions, scriptural contradictions and
incomprehensible irrationality, and logical fallacies about different persons who are the same God (even
though one of those has a different person that he worships as God). or they are one and the same person
just like the right arm obeys and is subservient to the head and this is the exact terms scriptures use to
describe father and son.. How can Jesus be a different person who is God while at the same time
worships a even greater God (because this person has a different person who is God) , who is the God of
God? Or use the scriptural references to head and right arm that God and scripture use to describe Gods
own nature and the relationship of father and son.

2. John 20:17 I ascend unto MY

FATHER, YOUR FATHER;

GOD, YOUR GOD;
and

and to

MY

and

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Trinitarins dont see their self-defeating argument(s) in offering up that Jesus had a God to pray to for
the reason of multiple different persons while at the same time trying to claim they only worship ONE
God and not three different gods or god persons. Three different persons is nothing more then
polytheistic paganism revisited in total hypocrisy with a bow on topno no we do not employ a
pyramid scheme ours is a trapezoid?!?
Ps 45:6.

THY THRONE, O GOD,

THEREFORE GOD, THY GOD,

is for ever and ever: the sceptre of thy kingdom is a right sceptre. 7.

Thou lovest righteousness, and hatest wickedness:

anointed thee with the oil of gladness above thy fellows.

hath

Who is this God of God?...................Remember we found out that it was actually God referring
to His own right arm and right hand that He sends to save man. And Why God states that He is
my savior God is the beginning and the end He is the master and the servant sent ; He is the
blessing and became a curse for our sakes! (neither blessing nor curse have any meaning
external of the one God himself the master of the universe gives them in the first place) In fact
the scriptures will tell us the reason why God is talking to his right hand and arm. Now we know
that when we go about making and doing things normally we use our right hand. But there is also
anther reason that God is speaking of and to His right hand and it has everything to do with the
fact that God created all things by that right arm and hand and there is nothing that exist that God
did not create and thus nothing greater in creation then that right arm and hand that was used to
create all of creation! You should notice that these are also about what we think of as the second
coming of Christ. There is no doubt here that Jesus is what is called the right hand and arm of
God; Most of the chapters are shown simply for quick reference sake however only the bold blue
underlined is our primary focus here:

3. MATH 26: 39. And he went a little further, and fell on his face, and prayed, saying, O
possible, let this cup pass from me: nevertheless

MY FATHER,
NOT AS I WILL, BUT AS THOU

if it be

WILT

FIRST: Again take notice of the subservient nature of Jesus.Is Jesus a lesser God or the same
God; if the same God then how can he be subservient to some other person who is the father?
This is the question that has lead many in error to conclude that Jesus is not God; However, just
as in the case of the concept of Trinity not only is that a contradiction but entirely unnecessary
and as such unjustified and invalid conclusion.
Remember THE WORD is Gods Highest name that the father, son and holy spirit all go by
(spirit of truth is the word of truth the truth is the word) Christ also identifies the fact that he is
on earth but also in Heaven at the same time because the word is God and that Word is in heaven
and on earth all at the same time in part because the universe in heaven and on earth is sustained
by that Word of God which is God. (Acts 17:28 et al) .
The statement ." God is One " and all the examples that can be cited can all be easily understood
within the face value of the statement "God is One" without any further assumptions or
explanations unless you do not believe that statement "God is one". The fact that you go about
trying to redefine "God is one" other then its face value PROVES that you have no faith in the
face value of the statement God is one..........There is no need for "the concept of Trinity" unless
you first assume the very thing you are trying to demonstrate. That is called a circular fallacy.
The father is God in spirit who speaks from heaven...The son is God manifested in the flesh who
speaks on earth .. ....The Holy Spirit is God inside of you, who speaks through us.....The father
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son and holy spirit are three ways/manifestations of God not three persons!.....One God, one
spirit of God, one person of God who creates all things who was on earth (in the flesh) while in
heaven ..
SECOND: Lk 22:42 . Saying, Father, if thou be willing, remove this cup from me: nevertheless
NOT MY WILL, but thine, be done. 43. And there appeared an angel unto him from heaven,
strengthening him. There are two different wills here so must be two different
persons right? But the answer is far more simple then requiring a multiple personal headed
god!?!
:
That part of the spirit of God that is connected to flesh is distinct from the rest of the spirit of
God that is not connected to that flesh thus the distinction between them as well as how the spirit
of God wars against the flesh of GOD ..Example:
Gal 5:17. For the FLESH LUSTETH AGAINST THE SPIRIT, and THE SPIRIT AGAINST
THE FLESH: and THESE ARE CONTRARY THE ONE TO THE OTHER:
Mat 26:41: the SPIRIT indeed is willing, but the FLESH is weak.
Rom 8:1 walk not AFTER the FLESH, but AFTER the SPIRIT 5. For they that are after the
flesh do mind the THINGS OF THE FLESH; but they that are after the Spirit the THINGS OF
THE SPIRIT.
But What fool would suggest that since my flesh and the new spirit inside of me are contrary to
each other and want different things must mean that I am multiple different persons!?!? When
someone goes to put a needle in my arm IT REACTS to pull back but my head tells it no stay
there it is for the best.but only a fool would try to conclude that my right arm is a different
person..even though it has a will of its own (see also the flesh lust agains the spirit and visa
versa).. A distinction between the desires or will of the spirit and the desires will of the flesh
or what the spirit wants and what the flesh wants does not make for different persons!?!
The only coherent and consistent way to apply all the scriptures is in and with the allusion to head and
right arm the head that scriptures make just as your right arm is you and you are the head of your right
arm it is with you and is you. The issue is not what God could do or what great things you can image
that God could do, but rather what did God say about his self, His nature and how did God describe it.
The Fact that God can do more then you image is not a valid argument for why God did everything you
suggest in spite of what he clearly stated!?!
Again as we saw in chapter six with the words hen and heis. When two words or concepts that
equally apply have different possible meanings they can only logically apply in a way that they do not
contradict each other.(you cannot appeal to self contradiction in terms to make a valid argument)..The
Trinitarian argument is incoherent and certainly not consistent with itself.
Logically The church members are "Hen" but cannot be "heis". so multiple persons is the
demand. On the other hand, your head and right arm are both "Hen" and "heis" this can only be
logically coherent as ONE PERSON with parts or parts of the same person. Likewise; Father
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and son are both "hen" and "heis" logically they can only be one person in parts/portions of the
same person
It is rather curious how trinitarins will attempt to appeal to the very verses that destroy their own
arguments practically bragging in their attempts at claiming that the contradictions they create, but
ignore, prove their doctrine is valid?! Their arguments are not logical, rational or even coherent. Jesus
prays to the father who is greater then He is (two different persons one person is praying to the other
person) For these fools this shows they are different persons but they dont see the contradiction in
claiming that there is only one God even though one of the persons of their god worships a different
greater god person the father. How can Jesus be God but also himself obeys worships His own God
(who is presumable a different person) and still claim that there is only one God and they only worship
that one God. Thus any attempt to apply multiple different persons creates logical nonsense and self
contradictions. Simply claiming the contradiction is a Great mystery because God is so great does not
solve the self-contradiction it only indicates that someone has chosen to accept the self contradiction in
spite of any or reason or possibility no matter how consistent or coherent those other arguments may be.
On the other hand, Jesus can be subservient to God worship God, obey God, the father can be greater
then the son who is the same God if they are understood in the terms God described himself namely as
parts of one person. Your head and right arm are distinctions from each other but they are not different
persons. Your right arm is not as great as your head is; you are the head of your right arm; your right arm
is the same person as you and your head are. When two or more concepts apply they can only apply in a
non contradicting fashion. The Trinitarian position demands trust in logical incoherence as the Best
solution to applying all the data. This is why Trinitarian doctrine is a doctrine of devils and fools who
deserve the damnation they are already under..
The following chart shows the ONE name of the ONE God who Saves us; who Loves us; Who sends Himself;
in the name of the father and in the name of the son and in the name of the holy spirit. In the name of the
Lord is a reference to a name that the Lord Has. It is NOT the name itself or the name itself that the
Lord goes by!?! The Lords name it is NOT father or son or holy spirit or Lord. However, the
name of the father is the same name as the son and the same name as the Lord. (I.e. In the name of the
Republic, only a fool would think the republics name is republic)

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Mat 28:19. Go ye therefore, BAPTIZING

Acts 2:38IN
Jesus Christ.

THE NAME of

Acts 19:5. When they heard this, THEY WERE

BAPTIZED IN

THE NAME of the

Lord Jesus.

Acts 4:12 for there is NONE

OTHER NAME under heaven gi

THEM IN THE NAME of the
WHEREBY WE MUST BE SAVED.
Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:Note
20. THE
Teaching
NAME not three different n
them to observe all things whatsoever I
God only has ONE name that saves and m
have commanded you:
into which is the same as Holy spirit bap
Rev 2:3. And hast borne, and hast

Rev 19:13:HIS

NAME is called

Ps 138:2.and praise THY

NAME .patience,
for thou hast
and for MY NAME'S SA
laboured, and hast not fainted..

(Phil 2:9. Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and given
HIM A NAME WHICH IS ABOVE EVERY
NAME:; Acts 4:12. Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is NONE OTHER NAME
under heaven given among men, WHEREBY WE MUST BE SAVED.)

John 1:1. In the beginning was

THE WORD, and the Word was

with God, and

THE WORD WAS GOD

THE WORD OF GOD

Thou has magnified THY WORD

Rev 3:8:..for thou hast a little

strength, and hast kept my word, and hast

Mat 10:32. Whosoever therefore shall

confess me before men, him will I confess
also before my Father which is in heaven.

NOT DENIED MY NAME.

2 Peter 2:1... bring in damnable heresies,
EVEN DENYING THE LORD that
bought them.

ABOVE ALL

THY NAME.

write upon him THE

NAME OF

FA

know God; but IN WORKS THEY DENY HIM,

being abominable, and disobedient, and unto every
good work reprobate.
John 17:26. And I HAVE DECLARED

Rev 3:12. Him that overcometh will I

make a pillar in the temple of my God,
and he shall go no more out: and I will

THE WORD WAS MADE

FLESH.(Rev 13:6/ Mat 12:31-32/Jn

Rev 2:13 and thou HOLDEST

33. But whosoever shall DENY ME before
MY NAME, and hast NOT
men, HIM WILL I ALSO DENY before
DENIED
my Father which is in heaven.Titus 1:.16. They
profess that theyMY FAITH

1John 3:23. And this is his commandment, That we should

BELIEVE on THE NAME.

14. And

THY NAME

UNTO THEM
, and will
declare it: that the love wherewith thouhast loved me
may be in them, and I in them.

Isaiah 30:27. Behold, THE

NAME
OF THE LORD COMETH

MY GOD, and THE NAME OF

Acts 3:16 THROUGH

FAITH

HIS NAME..

Zech 14:5and the Lord my GOD

SHALL COME, and all

the saints with thee. (1Thess 4:14)

THE CITY OF MY GOD, WHICH IS

NEW JERUSALEM, which cometh
down out of heaven from my God: and I

Jeremiah 31:31.(Heb 8:8) I will make a

will write upon him MY NEW

NEW COVENANT with the

NAME

house of Israel, and with the house of

Judah:

Rev 2:17 "NEW NAME written,

which no man knoweth saving
HE THAT RECEIVETH IT

COVENANT
.. in the house WHICH IS CALLED by MY
NAME Deut 11:18 lay up THESE
Jeremiah 34:15 a

MY WORDS in

. upon your hand, that

they may be AS FRONTLETS BETWEEN
YOUR EYES.

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Psalms 20:1. The Lord hear thee in the

Jeremiah 34:15 a COVENANT

THE NAME OF THEbefore me in the house WHICH IS
Jacob DEFEND THEE;7.
CALLED by MY NAME

day of trouble;

GOD of

Some TRUST IN chariots, and some in

His covenant is His word Deut 11:18

horses: but we will remember THE

Therefore shall ye lay up

NAME OF THE LORD our

WORDS

God.

Mat 36:28. For this is my blood of

THE NEW TESTAMENT,

THESE MY

of hosts that dwelleth between the Cherubims

Deut
10:2.
And I will write on THE TABLES
in your heart and in your soul, and bind them for
a sign
upon your hand, that they may be AS FRONTLETS
that were in the fir
BETWEEN YOUR EYES.
which thou brakest, and thou shalt PUT THE
THE ARK.

Daniel 9:27.And he shall CONFIRM

THE COVENANT with many

for one week: and in the midst of the

which is shed for many for the remission of sins.
week he shall cause the sacrifice and the
oblation to cease, and for the
overspreading of abominations

Acts 3:19. Repent ye therefore, and be

converted, that YOUR SINS MAY BE

BLOTTED OUT, WHEN

THE
ARK OF GOD, WHOSE
NAME IS CALLED (Deut 5
THE NAME OF THE LO
2Sam 6:2 to bring up from thence

THE WORDS

Jeremiah 31:31.(Heb 8:8) I will m

NEW COVENANT with th

house of Israel, and with the house o

Judah: 33. But THIS SHALL BE T
COVENANT that I will make with the

house of Israel; After those days, saith the

Lord, I will put my law in their inward parts,
and write it in their hearts; and will be their
God, and they shall be my people. 34. And th
Dan 9:24. Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy
teach no more every man his neighbour, and e
holy city, TO FINISH THE
man his brother, saying, Know the Lord: for t
TRANSGRESSION, and TO MAKE
all know me, from the least of them unto the
AN END OF SINS, and to make
greatest of them, saith the Lord: for I WILL
RECONCILIATION FOR INIQUITY,
FORGIVE THEIR INIQUITY, and
and to bring in everlasting righteousness,
REMEMBER THEIR SIN NO MORE.
and to seal up the vision and prophecy,

THE ARM OF THE LORD

MY RIGHTEOUS
HE BARE THE SIN OF MANY

Isaiah 53: 1. Who hath believed our report? and to whom is

REVEALED?
SERVANT

..............11 by his knowledge shall

.. 12. . and

Prov 8:17. I love them that love me; and those that seek me early shall find me 22. THE LORD POSSESSED ME IN THE
BEGINNING OF HIS WAY, BEFORE HIS WORKS OF OLD. 23. I WAS SET UP FROM EVERLASTING, from the
beginning, or ever the earth was. 24. WHEN there were no depths, I was brought forth; WHEN there were no fountains abounding
with water. 25. Before the mountains were settled, before the hills was I brought forth: 26. WHILE AS YET HE HAD NOT
MADE THE EARTH, nor the fields, nor the highest part of the dust of the world. 27. WHEN he prepared the heavens, I WAS
THERE: WHEN he set a compass upon the face of the depth: 28. WHEN he established the clouds above: WHEN he strengthened
the fountains of the deep: 29. WHEN he gave to the sea his decree, that the waters should not pass his commandment: WHEN he
appointed the foundations of the earth: 30. THEN I WAS BY HIM, as one brought up WITH HIM: and I was daily his delight,
rejoicing always before him; . 36. But he that sinneth against me wrongeth his own soul: all they that hate me love death
Proverbs 30:4 WHO HAS ASCENDED INTO HEAVEN, OR DESCENDED? Who has gathered the wind in His fists? Who has bound the

WHAT IS HIS NAME, AND

WHAT IS HIS SONS NAME,
waters in a garment? Who has established all the ends of the earth?

If you know?

Take note that the question should be taken to pre-suppose one name or the same name for both!? What
is the name of the person who has ascended and or descended from heaven?. Answer: The word
(God/Jesus) and What is that persons sons name? Answer: The word (God/Jesus)..The ONE GOD has
ONE PERSON and ONE Name for that ONE PERSON ..THE WORD

THE WORD WAS WITH GOD,

AND THE WORD WAS GOD
CHAPTER EIGHT:
John 1:1. In the beginning was the Word, and

2. The same was in the beginning with God.

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But some will say what About Gen God said let usSummary:
1. it actually states ELOHIM said let us the word is plural or singular depending on context and
who is getting credit for the action.. Further, while verse 26 uses the plural pronoun us it then
uses the single pronouns his and he to reference God in verse 27. Thus, the argument that
would claim God must be a plurality of persons because of verse 26 would also demand that God
is a single person in verse 27. Logical coherence and or even so much as basic consistency are
not values that the Trinitarians can afford to concern themselves (or anyone else,. never mind
that man behind the curtain) with too much.
2. The scriptures call angels and demons et al Elohim because the word is NOT a name but rather
akin to a classification of life.Animal life.Human life..Elohim life.Further the word
Elohim is used in the very same way that the English word fish is used the same spelling of the
word can refer to singular or plural, as in:I have a FISH (singular)orI have many FISH.
(plural)
3. Thirdly and most importantly, apparently either ignored or by virtue of absolute gross and
inexcusable ignorance or willfully so but God has a conversation with a certain man, in your
KJV bible,( or any of the other translations ) and lets him know that the angles were present and
participating and doing work in the creation! In fact, God makes a point to tell this man that the
man does not know the names of and or the who did exactly what during the creation. A king
proclaiming work to be done before all of his servants: only a fool would doubt that He is talking
to his servants and instead think he was only talking to himself.!?!? While it is true that God
spoke some things into existence it is untrue that everything created was spoken into existence.
Man was formed from the dirt that God had already created several days prior. Man was not
spoken into existence he was first formed and then God breathed into the clay/dirt that had been
formed. If we create machines to do work for us, then when the work is done WE not the
machines claim and obtain all the credit
How come so many are so ignorant of these scriptural facts?..and yet I know why. it demonstrates
2Thess 2:11-12............... When God said He is ONE, there is no excuse for God In three persons
Some would ask: Does it means that angels is also a creator?...NO why would it?..if you create a
machine that can do work for you when the work is done YOU still get all the credit...God Created the
angles (host of elohim; who also are always described looking like men because God created them with
the same image that God himself is describe as having!?!) who in turn were involved in the creation
process when God created the heavens and earth...Thus, although they (all the other elohim) were
present and participating in the creation it was Lord Elohim (Lord of the Elohim who is himself Elohim;
aka GOD) ALONE who gets ALL the credit because God created the angels and everything else...simple
logic....the fact that the angels were present and participating is not mutually exclusive to God taking all
the credit for the work any more so then a king takes the credit for building his empire even though his
servants are involved in the work..they all do the work under the authority and power of the King and in
this case it goes even further because in this case the King even created the servants that will be
participating in the construction processes
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The fact that the plural form Gen 1:26. And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our
likenessis used could only be said to demand if anything at all that others are present. But that still
would not tell you who the others present are. The use of any personal pronouns do not affect how many
persons God is either. When the chief Elohim speaks ..."HE" (Elohim) said let us (referring to the other
elohim in his presence) .just like the FISH said to the other FISH let us et al ad fin...or to say it another
the then the FISH said to the FISH let us. The creation account is the physical universe heavens and
earth there is no mention of when the angels are being created . The angels are also in the image of God,
(Zechariah 12:8) Angels, are in the presence of God they are created higher then man before man was
created and are the executors of Gods desires......The concept is simple three parts or slices of one single
person/pie verses three different pies/persons, in the same way that one person has various parts. My
hand is not my foot and the head of my hand is me (1 Cor 11:3) but there is only one person of me who is
made in the image of God . One pie three pieces of pie or three ingredients of pie but not three different
pies!

.
THIS, NOT

Trinitarians (God in three persons) seem to miss that fact that as subordinates (employees or
angels) do or not do as much or as little as directed to do. We know from Job 38:5,7 that the
angels were present and involved. However the Trinitarians must assume that us does not and
could not apply to the angels being present. Man was created from the dust of the earth and there
are ~ 117 elements that make up a rock or a man, the breath of life comes from God . We know
the angles were present and participating so did the angels assemble any of those 117 elements
for God to breathe in? It matters not; the point is you cannot build a Trinitarian argument based
on what you do not know in spite of Gods own direct description of himself that He is ONE.
God left his descriptions such that if you want to believe in multiple persons of God you can and
be dammed for it or you can keep his words and understand all those suggestions of multiple
persons as just one person with various different parts, aspects and measures. The is issue is not
the technical term ONE or what that means but rather do you or do you not believe what God
said. He is one; Satan comes along and twists what God said so as to make it so easy to doubt the
literalness of God and His words. Trinitarians (God in three persons) base their ridiculous
arguments on things such as "us", assuming the very thing in scripture that they are trying to
show from the same scriptures!?!...They invoke circular fallacies. Christ already told us, point
blank, that he is the father!......The whole Trinitarian argument is based on erroneous
assumptions about us When Christ point blank tells you he is the father!?! God said
one...Satan said "Three in one is more wise...that is exactly what they are doing....they are
just making assumptions and then using their assumptions to nullify the words of God ......That is
a doctrine of devils!....Why do they resist the truth? Christ is that part of the one person of God
that came in the flesh, NOT a second or different person of God . In the same way that my hand
and my arm in a glove can come to you and it is me one me not a different me nor is it all there is
to me. The heretics should have considered the fact that man is made in the image of God so that
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analogy is not just appropriate, but the only scriptural and logical application of Gods own
words without interpreting for God what God really meant to say. All of the verses used to
suggest Christ is a different person or the third person of a trinity can be just as easily, without
contradiction, be understood as three manifestations or simply parts of one person of God . My
hand is not my foot and if you put a nail through it, it will cry out to me also. My right hand
which creates all things (which is how Christ is described the right hand) I build as well can
communicate for you to come to me all while a voice from the head comes out and states this is
my hand you had better listen to it. Christ is simply the flesh that the spirit of God occupied and
animated from birth till death. That part of Gods spirit was attached to that flesh in the very
same way our spirit is attached to us and so being would experience the same separation at
death pain et al.
Trinitarians will point to Us in scripture as evidence for a plurality of persons of God while at
the same time claim that us and WE is the royal we and only refers to his majesty, both are
utter nonsense. Us was a reference to Elohim Which is not the name of God it is a
classification like the word Human...I am human you are human we are human.....God and the
Angels and demons are all called Elohim because the word means supernatural translated as God
or gods depending on the context....When God said let us make man in our image God was
talking to the Angels and we know this because Scriptures tells us that God spoke to Angles
using the word "US" as well as the fact that the scriptures tell us the angels were present and
participating in the Creation ........There is no logical implication anywhere in scripture other then
for God is one and His person It is simply silly to suggest that God uses the phrase
"God is one" to imply that God is three even though he specifically states that God is a
"PERSON" singular NOT persons plural your trying to deny the words of God claiming you do
so out of humility and respect to God which is utter nonsense.
Important to note the following: 1. Everything that was made was NOT spoken into existence
such as man and the animals were formed from the dirt that had already been spoken into
existence Man was formed from preexisting material he was NOT spoken into existence 2.
While God spoke the worlds into existence, there was specific work done during either before
that even preparing and was accomplished FIRST BEFORE the worlds were SPOKEN into
existence or afterward as part of that creation............
In Job 38 Job is asked several question by God which he cannot answer because Job does not
know the answer. If you have a construction crew and they go out and build a house you would
still say that "YOU BUILT THAT HOUSE" even though other lesser employees did the actual
work. God has all power and even the power that the angles exercise was given by God . God
created but the angels were there and participating and that is why Job cannot answer ANY OF
THE QUESTIONS about who did what.......... Look at the whole chapter God tells Job that He
did certain things and then ask him who did certain other things ....and Job cannot answer any of
the questions
Job 38:4. Where wast thou when I LAID the foundations of the earth? (God takes direct credit
fo this action but will make a distinction in who did other things in the actual act of creation of
the earth).declare, if thou hast understanding. 5. WHO HATH laid the measures thereof, (God
stated emphatically that laid the foundation BUT who marked it out?!?) IF THOU
KNOWEST? or WHO HATH STRETCHED THE LINE UPON IT?..... Job knows that God
laid the foundation but Job does not know who did the preparation work, how come if he already
knew that God did it?!?.. 7. WHEN the MORNING STARS SANG TOGETHER, and ALL
THE SONS OF GOD SHOUTED FOR JOY?...Note it does not say that the only thing they
did was sing and shout it is simply a true statement that the did sing and shout but Job does not
know who stretched the line upon it or anything else except for the specific mention that God
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himself laid the foundations. No matter what you think the fact is the angels (who are also
identified as elohim in scriptures demonstrated latter in this same section) were PRESENT &
PARTICIPATING in some fashion (we dont know and it does not matter if or how their signing
contributed to anything) the point is: Only a Fool would think that .The King of the ELOHIM in
a room full of his subjects who are also ELOHIM and that WILL PARTICIPATE IN SOME
SHAPE OR FASHION was talking to himself when he uses the word "US" and "OUR" and yet
trinitarinas gleefully demonstrate they are those fools with their arguments. It does not matter
how much or little the singing or anything else such as measuring the angles may have done
contributed to the creation any more then it matters how much the fans at stadium contribute to
the game (many would say they contribute quite a bit) it only matters that when we say lets play
ball or lets have ourselves a ball game or lets get this game on we are not talking to
ourselves in solitude, (as in God speaking to his own royal we) and the fans and especially
THE CHEER-LEADERS, (singing et al angles) and water boys and those guys that measure the
"first down" in football)would naturally be included in the us and our game....
Was God just bluffing? Was God telling Job you know I laid the foundation but did I do the other
things or did someone else Job could have called Gods bluff and said you did it all God for to
you along belongs all the glory!...Ah, but it was NOT a bluff nor a vain attempt by God to claim
I did it all by my lonesome but ummmm..or did I? Perhaps Trinitarians know better then God
himself who did these thingsif only Job had the wisdom of the trinitarins!?!?. God had the
angels who are also Elohim do some of the work such as lay out the measure and line. We dont
know exactly who did all of What and it is not necessary to know that the angels were doing
work involved in the creation and it was Elohim that said let us The angles were there and
doing something exactly what we do not know just as Job did not know who did what. Job only
knows that all things are done by the power of God but job has no idea who laid out the measure
of if or who did any of the other things that God ask Job even though God told him that God
himself laid the foundation. There is no contradiction or difficulty here. The angels were there
doing the work that God gave them to do In the creation process.
The fact is numerous times in scriptures even IN HEAVEN (but also on earth too) angles and
God appear with the same image as we have. ( ie Daniel 7:9-14; 9:21; 12:6; Zech 1:10; Gen
3:8; 18:2; Joshua 5:13-14; 13:6; 1Kings 22:19; 2Chron 18-18-19; Rev 1:11-15; 4:2; [these
things are in heaven]). Now, either man is made in the image of God ..or as you are trying to
suggest that God and the angles are only forming and or projecting themselves into our image!?!
The whole trinitarian argument attempts to turn all of scriptures upside down and makes
everything God said to be a lie, as opposed to taking them for what they actually tell us about the
image and nature of God, Angles and man. The angles look like God for the same reason that we
do God created the angels to look the way they do and Angles are Elohim who were present
participating and who God spoke to when he said "let us". Trinitarinas can and will deny it,
refuse to accept it but they are simply just delusional which is to be expected for God said Isaiah
66:4 & 2Thess 2:11-12. You see, God did not do things the way they imagined with their
preconceived brainwashing (from the pulpit of devils that shaped their ideas) and hated the God
revealed in scripture as revealed in scripture. The issue is not what so much what the scriptures
say as it is about who they love more the word of God and his descriptions or the imaginations of
vain and heretical (not to mention ignorant; willful or otherwise) men who created and loved lies
more then the truth it is that simple........
However, God gets all the credit much in the same way that any other Boss or King gets credit
for the work that their men do under the kings authority and power. However, in this case the
King had even created the subjects who were doing the work. So the fact that angels were
involved takes nothing away from God because God created the angels as well! Ultimately the
creator of all things is God (including the other Elohim) but God used the angels just like he used
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a process of time that he also created et al. The fact that creations such as angels were involved
does not take anything away from God or Who created the entire universe, any more then if we
build machines capable of building other machines...the machines do NOT get credit!!...This is
also why God and the angles are always described looking like us, or rather we look like them.
Unless of course you think God is just projecting himself into OUR IMAGE!?! Simply put, there
is no way to logically argue that we are not in the image of the other Elohim (including angels
who look like men who all look like the Lord Elohim) when they too were there participating and
looking like us.
Psalms 8:5 For thou hast made him a little lower than the

Heb 2:7. Thou madest him a little lower than the

the works of thy hands:

ELOHIM

ANGELS;

(angels), and hast crowned him with glory and honour.

thou crownedst him with glory and honour, and didst set him over

The writer of Heb writing under the inspiration of the Holy Spirit translates the verse in Ps to
angles but not only does he do this but actually his whole polemic is a reference to the angels
(called Elohim) who gave and administered the Old Law under Moses.
Ex 22: 9. |0000| because

|3605| EVERY |1697| case of |6588|

TRESPASS (Heb 2:2)

|7794| for ox, |0000| for |2543| donkey, |0000| for |6629| sheep, |0000| for |8008| clothing,

|0430|
guilty |0430|

|0000| for |3605| any |0009| lost thing, |0834| of which |0559| it is said |0000| that his |0000| this {is} |0413| to
ELOHIM |0935| will come |1697| the case of |8147| both of them, |0834| whom |7561| declares

ELOHIM

(God sent Angle(s) referred to

also as Elohim or Gods which brought plagues et all upon Israel for their disobedience.
This is sometimes translated as JUDGES but the judges here are not people but the
angles who are put in charge of ministering the law blessing and penalties of the law of
Moses to them).
|7999| he must repay |4932| double |7453| to his neighbor.

IF THE WORD SPOKEN BY ANGELS was

stedfast, and EVERY TRANSGRESSION and disobedience received a just
recompence of reward;.. 5. For unto THE ANGELS hath he not put in subjection the
Heb 2:2. For

He is drawing a contrast between how things were in the

Old heavens and earth as opposed to how things will be in the New Heavens and new
Earth. This could also be the reason why we do not see supernatural things taking place
today in the same way or extent they appeared to have taken place in the past :
Compare .withRev 3:21. To him that overcometh will I grant to sit with me in my
throne, even as I also overcame, and am set down with my Father in his throne.. Rev
2:26. And he that overcometh, and keepeth my works unto the end, to him will I give
power over the nations:The contrast is the Angles in charge verse the saints. ...
world to come, whereof we speak.

7. Thou madest him

A LITTLE LOWER THAN THE

ANGLES (ElOHIM) ; thou crownedst him with glory and honour, and didst set him over the
works of thy hands: This part of the verse verse is quoted and translated in From:

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The Book of Psalms has much more to say on this issue though it is not just restricted to one or
two verses and no attempt has been made in this section to cover them all.
Psalms 95:1. |1980| O come, |7442| let us sing for joy |3068| Yahweh. (the self-Existent or Eternal; Jehovah,) |7321| Let us
shout |6697| to the Rock of |3468| our salvation. 2. |3468| Let us come before |6440| His face |8426| with praise. |2158| With songs |7321| let us
shout |0000| to Him. 3. |3588| For |0410| a God |1419| great |3068| Yahweh. (the

self-Existent or Eternal; Jehovah,)

|4428|

ELOHIM

[of] The Gods; or perhaps

supernatural(s/spirits) Note here Yaheweh is the King over subjects/servants all other elohim.
and a king |1419| great |5921| above |3605| all |0430|

Psalms 97: 9. For thou, Lord, art high above all the earth: thou art exalted far

ABOVE ALL GODS. (the

word here is ELOHIM)

Psalms 82:1.
the mighty;

GOD STANDETH IN THE CONGREGATION

of

(This is in HEAVEN among the angles, not on earth or with men) he judgeth

AMONG THE GODS (the word here is ELOHIM)

GODS (the word here is ELOHIM)
.

6. I have said,

YE ARE

and all of you are CHILDREN OF THE MOST HIGH. 7. But YE SHALL

DIE LIKE MEN, (Men

do not die like men they are men and die because they are men; these Angles
who were fallen angles and are the angles to be judged and take part in the second death just as
men do) and fall like one of the princes.
Exodus 18: 11. |6258| Now |3045| I know |3588| that |1419| {is} greater

|3068| YAHWEH

|3605| than all |0430|

ELOHIM

[of] The Gods; or perhaps the supernaturals or spirits) 0552| truly, |1870| in
the manner |1834| in which |2102| they were tested |5921| against them . (Lev 19:31; 1Cor 10:20; Deut 32:17; Col
2:18; Zech 12:8; Ps 82:6-7; Ex 23:22-24;) ..et al ad fin It is would be rather pointless
to claim that Yahweh is greater then all those others that do not exist if no other Elohim (gods)
did exist. How great you are to be so much better then things that do not even exist!?!? Why you
too lowly human are greater then all those gods that do not exist for you do exist in reality and
those false gods do not exist in reality!?!?.....What nonsense men create when they pervert the
scriptures and deny the meaning.

THE LORD GOD (|3068| Yahweh)

I
(Yahweh)
AS GOD (Elohim; it was the angels that were sent to
Amos 4: 2.

hath sworn by his holiness,..11.

have overthrown some of you,

overthrow Sodom not Yahweh himself) overthrew Sodom and Gomorrah, (Gen 18:22; Gen 19:1; 19:13
Angles were sent to destroy it and why Paul et al understood that angles are Elohim which is a
classification of life NOT the name of Yahweh only a title because God and angels are Elohim
life) and ye were as a firebrand plucked out of the burning: yet have ye not returned UNTO ME, saith the Lord.

WE (the angles; Gen 18:22; Gen 19:1;) WILL DESTROY

THIS PLACE
THE
LORD HATH SENT US TO DESTROY IT.
Gen 19:13. For

, because the cry of them is waxen great before the face of the Lord; and

In this next passage we find God in heaven on his throne with his heavenly host (angles et al)
around him and speaking to them he ask Who shall go for US because Elohim is a
classification of life not a name when God is speaking to US and OUR there is no
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justification for using this as evidence that God is multiple persons. Ironically this would be
true even if God had claimed (which He most certainly never did ) that he was multiple persons,
because there is exclusivity to who the comments are directed toward. .
Isaiah 6:1. In the year that king Uzziah DIED

I SAW ALSO THE LORD SITTING UPON A THRONE, HIGH AND

LIFTED UP, AND HIS TRAIN FILLED THE TEMPLE. 2. ABOVE IT STOOD THE SERAPHIMS: each one
had six ings; with twain he covered his face, and with twain he covered his feet, and with twain he did fly. 3. AND ONE CRIED UNTO
ANOTHER, AND SAID, HOLY, HOLY, HOLY, IS THE LORD OF HOSTS: THE WHOLE EARTH IS
FULL OF HIS GLORY. 4. And the posts of the door moved at the voice of him that cried, and the house was filled with smoke. 5. Then
said I, Woe is me! for I am undone; because I am a man of unclean lips, and I dwell in the midst of a people of unclean lips: for mine eyes have
seen the King, the Lord of hosts. 6. Then flew one of the seraphims unto me, having a live coal in his hand, which he had taken with the tongs
from off the altar: 7. And he laid it upon my mouth, and said, Lo, this hath touched thy lips; and thine iniquity is taken away, and thy sin purged.

ALSO I HEARD THE VOICE OF THE LORD,

SAYING, WHOM SHALL I SEND, AND WHO WILL
GO FOR US?
8.

Then said I, Here am I; send me. 9. And he said, Go, and tell this people, Hear ye indeed, but understand
not; and see ye indeed, but perceive not. 10. Make the heart of this people fat, and make their ears heavy, and shut their eyes; lest they see with
their eyes, and hear with their ears, and understand with their heart, and convert, and be healed. 11. Then said I, Lord, how long? and he
answered, Until the cities be wasted without inhabitant, and the houses without man, and the land be utterly desolate, 12. And the Lord have
removed men far away, and there be a great forsaking in the midst of the land. 13. But yet in it shall be a tenth, and it shall return, and shall be
eaten: as a teil tree, and as an oak, whose substance is in them, when they cast their leaves: so the holy seed shall be the substance thereof.

Note: supernatural/spirits/ other then physical power and presence; Note Samuel prophecies
from the grave!?! 1 Sam 28: 13. |0559| And said |0000| to her |4428| the king, |0408| not |3372| Do be afraid. |3588| For |4100| what |
7200| have you seen? |0559| And said |0802| the woman |0413| to |7586| Saul, |0430|
coming up |4480| out of |0776| the earth.

ELOHIM

Gods |7200| I have seen |5927|

THERE BE THAT ARE CALLED

GODS
AS THERE BE GODS MANY
1Cor 8:5. For though

, whether in heaven or in earth, (

and lords many,)

Another whole book could be written just on the use of Elohim in the scriptures use to Angels
and even demon but also take note of the fact that the scriptures state that man was made in the
image of the Elohim
Gen 1:27. So God created man in his own image ,

(ELOHIM)

IN THE IMAGE OF GOD

created he him; male and female created he them .

Gen 1:27. |1254| And created |0430| ELOHIM |0853| - |0120| the mankind |6754| in that image, |6754| In that image of |0430|
ELOHIM |1254| He created |0853| him; |2145| male |5347| and female |1254| He created |0853| them.

God is in a room full of other Elohim (a classification not a name just like human) What fool
would think that A king standing in a room full of other human or Elohim persons was talking to
himself if he said let us???.....Angels have the same Image as God because they were created
higher then us with the same image that is why God and the angles appear like men in scripture
they are not coping us we were made to look like God who made his servants look like
Him...............His first servants are other Elohim and they were participating in the creation just
as scripture tells us. I have actually had to address this way: .. Wait. God said he is one
and uses the person in the singular never in the plural and my argument is circular.?? The
scriptures describe God looking like a man in heaven The angels looking like men in heaven
and it calls those angels Elohim ..so God is in a room full of other that the scriptures say were
involved in the creation and you think he was talking to himself and or that my argument that he
was not talking to himself is circular..????? This is not the same as saying angels are creators.
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God who created the other Elohim angles Gets the credit because they themselves are creations
of God but the issue is "ELOHIM said let us" only a fool would think that the Chief Elohim in a
room full of other Elohim who are going to be doing at least some contributing work would think
that the Chief was talking to himself.
Jesus who is God, sits at the right hand of God . The environment of the physical universe as
well as the environment of the Angels in heaven all exist internal to God by virtue of the fact
among other things that they are all limited where as God is unlimited thus the limited must
logically exist within the infinite...Ironically those that try to argue Trinity "punting" to the glory
and incomprehensible grand nature of God don't realize they are in fact putting God into a box
(an environment) that God lives and depends on inside of, rather then the Box existing within
God ......so tell me "How big is your God"?
The spirit of Christ and the Holy Spirit are one and the same spirit. Next You should notice that In all of
these references the phrase I AM HE is not just generic references to I am he but specific to the God
who is speaking about His own right arm, yes himself!!
.On BEING a PERSON
There a chasm of dichotomy between what (A) Trinitarins claim .and (B) what they are doing in
actuality ..
(1) the Trinitarian claim is that God is three different persons but still ONE being ( ASSERTION)
(2) The Trinitarians three different persons is in REALITY three different beings. Because a person is a
being and a being is a person. (REALITY)
Simply imagining that there is a compatible but diametrically opposed pole difference between a
being and a person does not make reality conform to the contortions of delusion. Man is made in the
image of God and since even his godhead is clearly seen by the creation so that they are without
excuse and you do not see such a thing anywhere in creation the idea that one being could be three
different persons who are not three different beings when a person is a being by definition then what is
really at work here is a willful denial of reality in favor of someones imagination.
So, while the trinitarins do not CLAIM to worship three different beings, the REALITY is that they do
PERIOD! Simply lying and denying to themselves and others about the facts changes nothing and
shows them for who and what they are. Anyone can invent magic fairies in their heads and claim they
get powers from stardust and describe it in vivid detail but this does not make it real or true. So, while
the Trinitarians claim they worship one God being on the one hand they in fact describe three different
beingsbecause THERE IS NO SUCH THING IN REALITY AS A SINGLE BEING THAT IS THREE
DIFFERENT PERSONS. A rose by any other name is still a rose.Trinitarians can claim that God is
three different persons that constitute a single being but the fact is there is NO SUCH THING except in
their own wild imaginations and self contradicting ideas. Thus, Trinitarians can claim all day long that
they do not think that God is three different beings but REALITY does not care about what anyone
claims.THE FACT IS that the Trinitarian God IS THREE DIFFERENT PERSONS WHICH IS
THREE DIFFERENT BEINGS
a man; a person.. IS. ONLY ONE BEING (NUMBER/QUANTITY)
a man; a person HAS... ONLY ONE KIND OF BEING (TYPE/KIND)
This is the same as saying:
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I ONLY have ONE vehicle.. NUMBER/QUANTITY

I ONLY have ONE KIND of vehicle TYPE/KIND (This does NOT tell you how many vehicles I have
it only tells you how many kinds of vehicles I have)
It does not matter what you imagine in your head or what you want to believe (or what you describe for
everyone) in spite face of scripture and logical sound thought. The fact is that THREE DIFFERENT
PERSONS (sometimes also described with three different minds and three different bodies in three
different locations) IS THREE DIFFERENT BEINGS PERIOD. And do deny this fact is just delusional
nonsense by those who choose to live in prov 26:12.
You and two other people (that makes three) can NEVER claim to be the same single/ one being.....You
can only claim to have the same KIND of being, but you and two other people are in fact three different
human beings, three different persons is three different beings because a being is a person and a person
is a being.
Three different persons can be ONE TYPE/KIND of being but yet they are still three in NUMBER of
beings!
THREE human persons.. IS. THREE BEINGS (NUMBER/QUANTITY)
THREE human persons HAVE... ONLY ONE KIND OF BEING (TYPE/KIND) Kind of being =
human being
I ONLY have ONE vehicle.. NUMBER/QUANTITY
I ONLY have ONE KIND of vehicle TYPE/KIND
The fact that different persons can have the same KIND of being is NOT the same as saying ONE IN
NUMBER OF BEINGS, because three different persons can NEVER be ONE IN NUMBER OF
BEING..in fact to suggest such is a oxymoron. A person is a being and three different persons is three
different beings so to say God is three different persons who are one being is in fact to say (while trying
to hide behind different terms that mean the same thing) "God is three different beings who are one
being". It would be just like me trying to say I have one Vehicle that is three different cars. That is
incoherent nosense!
Further, it is important to understand that ONE VEHICLE is NOT the same as ONE KIND OF
VEHICLE....one HUMAN BEING is not the same as ONE KIND OF BEING that is human!?! Three or
Billions of different human persons is still three or billions of different beings. A human being" is ONE
single being...However, billions of human beings is NOT ONE single being!?! In any case, three or
billions of humans is always three or billions of beings and three or billions of persons!?!
When you try to insist that billions of human persons can be considered or called human (one Being
called human) Then you would inexorably exacerbate the problem not solve anything because billions
of persons that constitute a being you want to call human would just be a race of different
people/persons that is in effect the human race. And as such, for the same reasons your God would also
just be a god race of three different persons and this is nothing but polytheism using different terms. You
are now left with worship of a god species (perhaps trying to avoid using those terms) and could not
possibly be considered monotheistic in any honest sense of the word and or concept. A rose by any other
name is still a rose. Three different persons is three different beings a single being that is three different
persons only exist in the minds of those that create and hold on to that idea. The scriptures never say
such things and Man is made in the image of God and that image demonstrates no such thing. The terms
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that God uses for the number of beings and persons of God is very specific and leave no room for
multiple different persons or beings or a being that is multiple different persons.
THE ANGEL OF THE LORD
This is a short explanation that may be expanded in the future.
We have machines that can be programmed and even AI or superficial intelligent machines these
machines do the work given and act in ways prescribed by the builders. If we construct a machine to dig
a hole it is equally correct to say the machine dug a hole or as the builder of these machines you are
digging holes (using the tools you have constructed to dig/ shovel/machine) It is simply a matter of
perspective. However, in any case even if we say the machine (orb of light/ Angel of the Lord in the
shape of a man or any other shape ie pillar of fire) is doing work or taking action even if we refer to it
using personal pronouns, only a fool would think that the machine is another person of the person who
built the machine in the first place!?! If man can build superficial intelligent machines why would it be
difficult to understand that the angle of the Lord need not be another person of God but simply that
creation of God that has whatever measure of intelligence God created with to go before them(Israel).
The Israelites had better listen to this Angel/creation because the name of the Lord (which is the
word/commands/programming of the Lord) is in him in the same way that the word of the programmer
is in the machine we build to dig the hole. Note modern machines are quickly even being able to decide
who and how to kill in war environments. The Angel of the Lord was not another person of God who
was God except that God created the manifestation to carry them to the promise land with specific
instructions on how and when to punish them for their transgressions. Ergo:
I SEND AN ANGEL before thee, to keep thee in the way, and to bring thee into the place which I have prepared. 21.
HIS VOICE, provoke him not; for HE WILL NOT pardon your transgressions: for MY NAME IS IN HIM.
22. But if thou shalt indeed OBEY HIS VOICE, and do ALL THAT I SPEAK; then I WILL BE AN ENEMY unto thine enemies,
and an adversary unto thine adversaries.23. FOR MINE ANGEL shall go before thee, and bring thee in unto the Amorites, and the Hittites, and the
Exodus 23: 20. Behold,
Beware

OF HIM,

and obey

Perizzites, and the Canaanites, and the Hivites, and the Jebusites: and I will cut them off.

(NOTE: It could be that the angel/messenger/agent would not pardon because he was instructed not to
pardon OR because, the agent here is not a person but more akin to a engineered or programmed
creation/machine) In any case, the angel and God are not synonymous in persons but rather in
function. Just as the machine that digs the hole for us is synonymous with our digging of a hole using
the tools we have constructed and or programmed to do such. To say we dug the whole is accurate but
also addressed as such as a matter of perspective. In the case, of a artificial intelligent machine of our
creation is or can function autonomous (although not without our programming/word being in it)
where as the shovel we made is not. Those that want and love the truth can easily see how the scriptures
do not present multiple different persons of ONE God . On the other hand, those that want to find
multiple different persons of God in the OT et al will not be convinced no matter what or how a thing is
explained. God used plain scriptures to describe himself as one and left the uncertainties to mystery
and this is the trap that God has set (yes a trap! ref:2 Thess 2:11; 1Kings 22:19-22) While the
Trinitarians deny the plain ONENESS of God (they only pay lip service to it and claim three in one
is just a mystery) they bask in the obscure things that might have been true mysteries for the ancients
and concoct obscure hysterical readings as certainty for multiple persons. How hypocritical that they
would deny the mystery for the ancients while demanding they had better certainty of Gods nature
and that is why we are left with the mystery a God who is really three in one!?! No matter what the
ancient peoples of Moses day understood these things the point is whatever you think the mystery of
Gods nature is, the fact is you have the plain language and even more information in the modern world
to grasp and take the words of God is one at face value without introducing a concept that is only visible
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in obscure references (that have other possible meanings) and assuming the conclusion (that God is
multiple different persons) and then using that conclusion to interpret and extrapolate multiple
different persons of ONE GOD . This is called a circular fallacy.
Anything physical that God manifest himself with/in can from different perspectives be considered God
and not God.If God manifest himself in a ball of light or in the shape of a physical man, the
manifestation is God and yet at the same time God is not physical so it is not God . It is simply a matter
of Perspective. However, in the case of the angel of the Lord (in such passages as Ex 23:20-23) and
My name is in Him it is not difficult to understand particularly in our modern society. Therefore you
are without excuse; the ancients may have had reason to chalk certain things up to mystery but you have
real world analogies/ parallels so you do NOT have excuse to use their lack as validation for your denial.
It matters not how the ancient could have understood these verse since there is no reason and no
difference between a mystery of God in ancient times or just claiming they understood it by moving
the mystery into the NT/modern times ?!? Fools you have no excuse.

CHAPTER NINE:
A BEAUTIFULL LIE..
Eph 2: 3. Among whom also we all had our conversation in times past IN THE LUSTS OF , fulfilling THE DESIRES OF THE MIND;

A tree is known by the fruit it bears. The fact that God said he is "one" and someone came along and
contradicts that and states "God is three in one" should have given you a hint, harking back to Satan in
The garden...God said you will die...Satan comes along and states no you will be more
WISE......today .God said He is one; but Satan's children come along and say no three is more WISE and
humble in the face of Gods grandeur only a mystery that can be understood in faith. God uses head
and right arm to explain the distinctions between father and son.. However, the Trinitarian heretics say
to the effect: "NO, that is just a figure of speech, or that is not what God really means. What God is
really saying is that God is three different persons". Fools, hypocrites and blind guides, God said he was
One and by your traditions and vain imaginations have taken the words of God and made them of no
effect, refashioning God into your image! The worship of different persons who are each God with
different degrees/amounts of god knowledge, god power and god authority that authorize and send each
other around on different missions is the practice of polytheistic pagans who worship their gods, NOT
Christians. Simply calling all of your different gods, God does not change the fact that you are
worshiping multiple different god persons. Claiming that worship of three different persons is the
worship of only one deity is not just a contradiction in scripture and terms but just as ridiculous as
taking a ford pickup truck and replacing the hood (and all other emblems) ornament(s) with a MercedesBenz emblem on it then trying to pass it off as a Mercedes sedan!?!
FOOLS!, If you can worship three different persons as one God then anyone who worships the Greek
gods could also claim they too are really monotheist who only worship one god who just happens to
be multiple different persons in heaven (one comes down and visits) since the origins of the gods have
them all come from a single one source God essence as well!?! This is called: "Soft" polytheism,
which holds that gods may be aspects of only one god, that the pantheons of other cultures are
representative of one single pantheon, psychological archetypes or personifications of natural forces or
for the trinitarians "characteristics" "love" wisdom" et al ....The only difference is not in practice but
rather terminology. Trinity refers to three different persons as one God the Greeks could agree with the
three different god persons are just attributes to one God;...!?!? This same kind of dilemma would also
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exist for Hindu Polytheism as well; Reference the ten avatars of Vishnu. Vishnu and his many faces. It
would not matter if any one claimed that their ONE god using the Greek et al pantheon was the same
God as the bible or not. Because, the point is if you can claim to be monotheist then so too could any of
them in which case there would not need be any difference between polytheism and monotheism at
all!?! Simply claiming that three persons is ONE God as a mystery is not valid any more so then a
pathological liar who makes the claim he does not lie, you just dont understand him (and or how
mysterious his ways are) as valid proof of his assertion that he speaks the truth! What determines the
worship of ONE God is not in the mere claim but rather in the reality of the language that God
communicated via his scriptures to us. ..........One God person or three different God persons one of
those is monotheism the other is poly theism with nothing more then just a different wrapping paper on
it that claims were not polytheist DRINK UP, THIS IS NOT POISONIOUS ...
.
It appears that most everyone is looking at this all backwards. God is referring to his right hand that he
sent and put into flesh as his son. (because that right arm comes via physical birth) God is NOT referring
to a different person who is the son as His right hand as in he is my right hand man!
How "Ironic" (hypocritical) that Trinitarians will try to deny the scriptures use of God literally sending
His right arm (even ridiculing that) because of its Anthropomorphic implications and yet that is the exact
bases for all trinitarian arguments!?! It is the anthropomorphic descriptors that trinitarians try to use to
reasons for arguing a demand for multiple/three different persons of God (ie. had to be multiple persons
so that God was not praying to himself et al. If God is one God the of course he was praying to himself.
However, if one person who is God is praying to anther more powerful person who is also God, then
God is not one God; .(And then you are either a outright fool or lying to yourselves in claiming you
worship one God). But then again the worship of multiple different gods has always been such a
beautiful lie. The new twist is we dont call is different gods we call each and all our different gods the
one god
. There are only distinctions in the manifestations due to being in different kinds of universes ie spiritual
& physical and functioning differently in those all at the same time....Same HE or HIM but the HE that
is in heaven is also the He that is on earth but the HE on earth is subordinate and obedient to the HE in
heaven because the HE in heaven is the greater part of the HE that is on earth....YES HIMSELF!?!.. .
Those who believe in God in three different persons are noting but polytheist who lie in insisting that
they are monotheist....like liars and thieves who insist we are not lying or stealing, you just dont
understand us(our mysteries)...!?! ...FOOLS!...All liars will have their part in the lake of fire.:...
.
.... These fools will walk right into the fire of hell thinking they are honoring God; I NEVER knew
youget ready for it, your turn is coming soon enough so get your Shocked and surprised face all
ready to go. Your theology is utter foolishness and hypocrisy. It is justly fitting that just like those
wrestling entertainers (actors) who so eloquently perform their fake faces of surprise and shock, that
you prepare yours for the real thing because of your acting (hypocrisy)!. Fools, your damnation is
just! ...
GOD IS LOVE SO GOD MUST BE MULTIPLE PERSONS RIGHT??
Another argument that seems to be very popular to put forward these days is basically that God is love
therefore God must be multiple persons. How or why trinitarians think that one demands the other
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(Love demands multiple persons) is bazaar in the first place. They will try to argue that If God only
shows love to the creation and or through Gods creation then God is dependent on creation and or love
demands a relationship between persons.
1.Such statements are invalid for how could it even be logical to attempt to claim that therefore
the or a God could possibly be dependent on something that did not even exist until he created
it!?! That makes no sense. The Source for all variances in the universe substance and emotions
and relationship all come from a single source God . Ironically this argument that makes God
dependent on the human understanding of what Love is!?! Before anything existed the word
existed. The word is love because all other love and relationships that were created came from it.
The nature of God is not dependent on the created relationships of humans!?! That is called a
non sequitur not a logical statement/argument of faith. So we are to believe that God must be
multiple persons because if he only shows love in or through his creation then a God would be
dependent on a creation that could not even yet exist!?!.. So either God would have to have
been dependent on something that could not even exist OR ....God must be multiple
persons?!?.This is a false choice. Both options are logically invalid. God is love, God is also
consuming fireTrinitarians are attempting to employ false paradigms by carrying
(contortions of) the relationships (pun intended) between love and God further then is defined by
scripture or God himself who defines all terms.. This argument is really only a modern twist
and attempt at the ancient pagan arguments that held multiple gods based on the multiple
characteristics of the universe with a god for every attribute. The twist is that the Trinitarians
insist that only three different persons (as opposed to an infinite persons in the pagan pantheon)
are needed and that the different god persons are all somehow the same one God so and by
such , they would say they are not polytheist?!?They insist you accept it and chalk it up to
the incomprehensible grand nature of God
2. The Trinitarians will in hypocrisy demand a INCOMPREHENSIBLE grand nature of God to
Rationalize a triune single God (explain how one God could be three different persons but not
three different gods) but demand a COMPREHENSIBLE kind (relationship) of love. Rather
then relegating Gods greatness and incomprehensibleness of Gods love no, no they choose
instead demand a comprehensive nature of love and deny what God clearly has stated about his
great and grand nature!?! Yes your body parts do love 1 Cor 12:25. That there should be no
schism in the body; but that the members should have the same care one for anotherWhen
someone goes to put a needle in my arm IT REACTS to pull back but my head tells it no stay
there it is for the best.but only a fool would try to conclude that my right arm is a different
person even though it has a will of its own (see Ch7 also the flesh lust against the spirit and
visa versa)..?!??!. This Trinitarian attempt to deny what God plainly states about his own nature
and PERSON based on the trinitarians rational arguments but build your whole God on the
incomprehensible concept of three different person who are each God with different god
powers and knowledge as only ONE GOD rather then what that really is which is three different
Gods.... HYPOCRISY AND LIES!. Their arguments are just pathetic excuses to call God a
liar and or love the lies they have created for themselves in denying what God himself has said
about His own nature. God is ONE.but Satan and his minions come along and say NO, three
in one is more wise Fools hypocrites and blind guides your damnation is just!
3. God creates the devil but takes no credit for evil and it is true not because there is some other
greater authority then God himself to define who gets the guilt or because it is comprehensible
according to your concepts of love, evil et al but rather because God who creates all things has
sole right to define the nature of all things including who gets guilt. Until God created and or
defined guilt there is no guilt in existence to ascribe to God or anyone. God can send strong
delusions and rightly claim that he does not tempt anyone with evil because God defines guilt not
dependent upon the definition of guilt you fool Likewise God is love because He defines
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Himself that way not because there is some knowable authoritative definition of love that God
is dependent on or subservient to .Fools!?! Love is NOT a relationship nor is a relationship
love!?! Neither is God dependent on your idea of Love and relationship. Love is a God (God is
love) who created ALL relationships and share part of himself (love) with and allow to pass
between. Gods definitions comes first to define the nature of God, NOT first your definitions of
terms which then are to define the nature of God . . While Trinitarians will punt to Gods
incomprehensible nature to justify three in one as one God but then turn around and deny that
God is one person because they cannot comprehend (incomprehensible) how God could be love
without that God being multiple different persons !?!?..Why your (Trinitarian) sudden need
for such Comprehension? If God created all relationships and the love that exist in those
relationships was also created and God can be THE WORD and also can be LOVE without
being dependent on how the created versions of those things (such as created versions of love in
the physical world) are defined.
These kinds of foolish arguments are analogous to watching a condemned criminal (the doctrine of
trinity) who has just been run through with a sword and his pathetic last dying gasps of air trying to hold
on to his life ([of an invalid] position) that is inexorably slipping away knowing he is damned for all
of eternity and only hell and eternal death is his future. Though he is still alive but for a few more
seconds he knows he is dammed to hell and no one can save him. Like Judas, his fate is sealed and
knows there is no hope left only eternal damnation.
Why all of the futility in trying to explain a thing that is not in scriptures and even most theologians who believe In it
have at one time or another admitted that it cannot be fully understood rationally or with our limited human
understanding. They will say things such as:
According to Gregory of Nyssa it is technically improper to speak of more than one man or
more than one God, on the basis that there is only one Essence for man that is universally and
fully present in each individual men. Likewise with God and the Divine Essence. So far that on
it's own does not disprove the claim that Trinitarians are Tritheists. What does though, is that
each individual human being is divided in space (corporeally) and time (immaterially). Our
activities and actions are separate from each other. Even when we do the same task as another,
or assist in a task with another, we are still not united in our acts with the other person. For God
though, it is completely different. GOD, BEING SIMPLE, there is no division between the
persons in act or activity. There is no separation of time or space. They are truly one. AT THE
SAME TIME THOUGH, God is not an isolated individual. HE IS A COMMUNITY and union
of Love. If we are to take God's own words seriously when He says that He is Love, then we must
take the Trinitarian view. Otherwise what one is left with is the self-thinking thought of Aristotle,
or the impersonal One of Plotinus. Even then though, OUR CONCEPTS OF TRIUNE-NESS
AND ONE-NESS ARE NOT ENOUGH TO UNDERSTAND the true nature of God . They are
symbols suited for our created minds, INCAPABLE OF TRULY GRAPSING GOD'S BEING.
(from various Trinitarian correspondence)
However, what the Trinitarians are really saying is that God is so great and wonderful, and yet God is
not smart enough or capable enough so as to be able to describe himself in a way that mere men can
understand... God is not smart enough to overcome our limited ability to understand his nature. In fact
what they are claiming is essentially we dont know but dont argue with us and let us tell you all about
it. The reality is that they are claiming the nature of God is so complicated and no one can really
understand the nature of His person or the words unless you simply understand the God is triune but
dont let it confuses you because it is incomprehensible anyway!?! If you cannot grasp the simple
concept of "ONE" then the rest of all of theology (good or bad) is moot.

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The Trinity is not that God is three persons and one person at the same time. It is that God is
three persons in one substance. Three distinct persons but only one God . It is not illogical, but it
is outside our realm of experience. (from various Trinitarian correspondence)
What fools! If that is not illogical then nothing that anyone can dream up or imagine or propose (that
has no relationship to any experience or reality we know of) is illogical either! God, on the other hand,
described himself in terms of His own creation that was created in His own image.
So you will be without excuse when you are eternally damned for not believing that Jesus is the Father
and same person and God in heaven Our spirits were separated from God and chained to this flesh until
it dies. (which means the spirit separated from the flesh) So God came to us and chained himself (his
right hand and arm) to the same flesh that we had. When Christ died the spirit of God that was in Christ
left physical flesh that it had once animated and when to the grave. Death had no power over Jesus
because Jesus is the right hand of God that created the place of the grave, death and hell itself! But the
issues goes far beyond just an image of God, even so Jesus is nothing more then flesh with that part of
God that God refers to himself as His own right hand and arm animating it for us so that we can see the
father or the God who is spirit. It is God come in the flesh to teach man about God and how to worship,
live, pray, suffer and even die to God Himself?!
People want to believe in trinity so badly they "invite" all kinds of fancy words. concepts and speech but
never address the facts that
(1) God specifically claims to be ONE person only both in his descriptions and in the very
linguistic terms scripture and God himself uses
(2) Ttrinitarians pretend that some verses can only be understood if God is multiple different
persons but that is a lie and "slight of hand" trick they employ, they make much more sense
understood as parts of the same person (and that is consistent with the linguistic terms used) All
of the scriptures and reasons/arguments that trinitarians offer are just as easily understood as one
person in various parts of the same person even using the very same terms for those parts that
God himself uses to describe his own nature and does not require multiple different persons.
(3) The trinitarian not only ignores the descriptions and terms that God uses to describe father
but rather rest in the baseless assertions as insights (could be is not a base or foundation for
valid arguments) that they put forward as what God really meant to say and insist that what they
envision and what they infer must be the truth about Gods nature. Their own arguments and
positions are unnecessary creative and imaginative drivel. The doctrine is nothing more then
unnecessary circular fantasies put forward as necessary inferences.........
They create all kinds of "beautiful lies" (terms and concepts not in scripture, that they incorporate
external of any basis except to say perhaps that scriptures "provoke" these concepts in their {vain]
imaginations) so as to attempt to explain the
(A) unnecessary
(B) contradicting self/logical et al
(C) incoherent doctrine of the trinity all while heaping praises upon it, telling everyone how
"necessary the doctrine is but "never mind the man behind the curtain" (the fact that there is
absolutely NO necessity for it either to understand the nature of God which scriptures tells us is
clearly seen as opposed to mystically incomprehensible) .
There is NO truth in the doctrine of the trinity it is nothing more then a "beautiful lie" they have
constructed for themselves no doubt with God's help (2Thess 2:11)........This post here perfectly
exemplifies all the "beautiful things" t and mystic world(ss t)hey so imaginatively conjure and invite the
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listener to enter into. They offer not truth or clarity but rather a vivid world of "wonder and mystery" and
are no different then sorcerers ..... Perfect examples of Prov 26:12 who will be found among those in
Rev 9:21. Neither repented they of their murders, nor of THEIR SORCERIES,..
The spirit of Christ is not the same spirit as a man....God himself animated that flesh of Jesus ...You are
animated with the spirit of a man, however, Jesus is the spirit of God in flesh animating that
flesh....Ergo: God come in the flesh..In-fact to deny this is to be anti-Christ. You say you want the
truth, but you lust for a lie!
Modalism address and quite simply demonstrate easy to understand coherent model of all the
difficulties that so many people like to bring up so as to demand multiple different persons in the
first place. Once you see just how simple it all is, one can only shake their head and wonder why
Trinitarians ever even so unnecessarily attempted to present their arguments at all. I list a few key
considerations here in a logical progression of thought so to speak:
(1) MODES: undeniably God uses modes to describe himselfJesus claims one specific mode
and then even references those passages where God explains them and states if you do not
believe it you will die in your sinsso the only real issue is not that modalism cant explain it ..it
is simply one of either A. you have not given it proper consideration or B. Mat 19:11..All men
cannot receive this saying, save they to whom it is giveneither way the problem lay not in any
deficiencies of modalims but rather in the faith of men who claim to put all their faith and trust in
the word of God when really it is just a faith in their particular chosen interpretation of
it.which should lead everyone to think on 2Thess 2:11-12 (contrast with the fact that
Trinitarian councils decided that modalism is a heresy)
(2) WHAT MODES SPECIFICALY: God claims that his own right arm is the "him" that he
loved, your right arm is with you and it is you and it is sub servant to you and it is not a great as
the rest of you and it is distinct from your head and can only know and communicate do what
your head gives it to but it is NOT a different person. Man is made in the image of God
and God uses that very image to describe his modes. There can be little leeway for why folks
refuse to accept this in favor of constructs that God never describes and never names they can
only be extracted through unnecessary burdens of chosen interpretations
(3) PREXISTANCE: Consider what it means to be human and what it means to be a person from
the whole preexistence of Jesus issue (yes Jesus has always existed BUT not always existed as
a human man)........... That part of the spirit of God that God considers to be his own right arm
comes occupies and is fussed with human flesh in a way that the rest of God is not. The
distinction is in that fact and the additional sensations/existence that human flesh/spirit fusion
create, not a distinction in person.
(4) GOD IS LOVE, (father loves Jesus; son loves father) Pg 94-97 GOD IS LOVE SO GOD
MUST BE MULTIPLE PERSONS RIGHT??
..The Trinitarians will in hypocrisy demand a INCOMPREHENSIBLE grand nature of God to
Rationalize a triune single God (explain how one God could be three different persons but not
three different gods) but demand a COMPREHENSIBLE kind (relationship) of love. Rather then
relegating Gods greatness and incomprehensibleness of Gods love no, no they choose instead
demand a comprehensive nature of love and deny what God clearly has stated about his great and
grand nature!?! Yes your body parts do love 1 Cor 12:25. That there should be no schism in the
body; but that the members should have the same care one for anotherWhen someone goes to
put a needle in my arm IT REACTS to pull back but my head tells it no stay there it is for the
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best.but only a fool would try to conclude that my right arm is a different person, even though
it has a will of its own (see Ch7 also the flesh lust against the spirit and visa versa)..?!??!. This
Trinitarian attempt to deny what God plainly states about his own nature and PERSON based
on the trinitarians rational arguments but build your whole God on the incomprehensible
concept of three different person who are each God with different god powers and knowledge
as only ONE GOD rather then what that really is which is three different Gods...

CHAPTER TEN:
AND THEN SOME

The fact that distinctions can be made is not a justification for separate persons of God ...with respect to
the son and father they are described as head and right hand......we are made in the image of God and
God uses that very description about the father son relationship.....There is a distinction between my
head (the father in heaven) and my right hand and arm (God in the flesh aka the son) but my head and
right hand are distinct from each other but they are not two separate persons. The same holds true for
any light (or any other acrobatic example the Trinitarians like to use from time to time) no matter how
many Characteristics it may have. You as a individual person also have many characteristics but still one
light and one person of you. A distinction is not a separation
The fact that distinctions can be made is not a justification for separation persons of God ...with respect
to the son and father they are described as head and right hand......we are made in the image of God and
God uses that very description about the father son relationship.....There is a distinction between my
head (the father in heaven) and my right hand and arm (God in the flesh aka the son) but my head and
right hand are distinct from each other but they are not two separate persons. The same holds true for
any light (or any other acrobatic example the Trinitarians like to use from time to time) or other
example, no matter how many Characteristics it may have. You as a individual person also have many
characteristics but still one light and one person of you. A distinction is not a separation. Head, hands
feet are all distinct yet they only yield one person. The whole argument for Trinity requires its
subscribers to accept a need for it in the first place and then based on that "need" go about to create a
doctrine of trinity...where there was never a reason to suggest it in the first place. Every difficulty on the
nature of God can be understood within the face value of One person.
What is so troubling and yet telling, in demonstrating the hypocrisy and double mindedness, is the fact
that they attempt to argue it is not three persons as the word person is normally defined but then spend
the rest of any discussion trying to convenience everyone why it must in fact really be three separate and
different persons as the world is normally used. We (the Church) preach one God and if you preached
one God you would not be arguing against it. (James 1:8) Trying to excuse the doctrine of trinity is
really nothing more then complaining that your doctrine is not a rationally understood or a rationally
demonstrable doctrine. That is not a defense of "the faith". It is a demonstration that your doctrine is
irrational, unnecessary and invalid. There can be no claim to justification for even putting forward an
explanation (Doctrine of trinity) that is unnecessary and even contradictory to "One God". You cannot
begin to explore an explanation for how "one God" is really three when it is not needed in the first
place and the only reason to attempt it requires you to assume the very conclusions you are trying to
reach so as to reinterpret it. The whole argument for Trinity requires its subscribers to accept it first and
then interpret the scriptures with. There was never ever a reason to suggest it in the first place! It is
exactly like creating a problem that does not exist so as to provide a solution to it. The problem exist
because others created it. In fact, it is exactly like me trying to suggest there was more then one NT
Jesus because mark and Matthew mention different details then creating a whole doctrine of multiple
Jesus when in fact that is completely unnecessary and in-fact inexcusable, so too is trinity it is
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unnecessary and a blatant contradiction of Scripture unless you reinterpret scriptures that never needed
any other then face value interpretations in the fist place!!! These guys cant seem to see the circular
fallacies of Trinity which make it just as much a heresy as suggesting multiple Jesus and crucifixions in
the NT and for the same reasons.
SECONDLY: Marcellus of Ancyra (fourth-century AD) said that the idea of the Godhead as three
hypostases (hidden spiritual realities) came from Plato through the teachings of Valentinus, (c.100 c.160) Valentinus taught that God is three hypostases and three prosopa (persons) each of the three
persons being 1. the Father, 2. the Son and 3. the Holy Spirit:
"Now with the heresy of the Ariomaniacs, which has corrupted the Church of God ... These then
teach three hypostases, just as Valentinus the heresiarch first invented in the book entitled by him
'On the Three Natures'. For he was the first to invent three hypostases and three persons of the
Father, Son and Holy Spirit, and he is discovered to have filched this from Hermes and Plato."
Source: AHB Logan: Marcellus of Ancyra (died c. 374AD) (Pseudo-Anthimus), On the Holy
Church: Text, Translation and Commentary. Verses 8-9. Journal of Theological Studies, NS,
Volume 51, Pt. 1, April 2000, p.95.
Interestingly enough Valentinus himself would later be condemned as a Gnostic heretic for some of his
other heretical teachings that the orthodoxy (which is just a fancy word for popular) did not accept.
According to Clement of Alexandria as well as Valentinus himself, Valentinus developed his ideas from
Theodas or Theudas, who was said to be a disciple of St. Paul. Marcellus of Ancyra, like to attack his
opponents by linking them to Valentinus: and apparently he believed that the idea of God existing in
three hypostases as heretical. (On the Holy Church, 9)
"Valentinus, the leader of a sect, was the first to devise the notion of three subsistent entities
(hypostases), in a work that he entitled On the Three Natures. For, he devised the notion of three
subsistent entities and three persons father, son, and holy spirit." Early Christian Writings:
Valentinus
Concerning Valentinus Tertullian states:
Valentinus had expected to become a bishop, because he was an able man both in genius and
eloquence. Being indignant, however, that another obtained the dignity by reason of a claim
which confessorship had given him, he broke with the church of the true faith. Just like those
(restless) spirits which, when roused by ambition, are usually inflamed with the desire of
revenge, he applied himself with all his might to exterminate the truth; and finding the clue of a
certain old opinion, he marked out a path for himself with the subtlety of a serpent. Adversus
Valentinianos, iv,
The Trimorphic Protennoia (Nag Hammadi library Sethian text) identifies professing Father, Son and
feminine wisdom Sophia as Gnosticism. University of Nebraska professor John D. Turner who is well
known for his translations of the Nag Hammadi library identifies Gnosticism as God the Father, Sophia
the Mother, and Logos the Son. After Valentinus' death, around 160AD, Irenaeus (2nd century c. AD
202), referred to by some as Saint Irenaeus, was Bishop of Lugdunum in Gaul) began his five-volume
work work On the Detection and Overthrow of the So-Called Gnosis, (Also know as Adversus
Haereses) Most of the first book in that volume expresses his very negative view of Valentinus and his
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The first church father we know of to use the word Trinity was Theophilus of Antioch (c. 169c.
183) who was the 7th Bishop of Antioch after succeeding Eros around 169AD .
In like manner also the three days which were before the luminaries, are types of the Trinity, of
God, and His Word, and His wisdom. And the fourth is the type of man, who needs light, that so
there may be God, the Word, wisdom, man. Theophilus, Apologia ad Autolycum, Book II,
Chapter 15
The first known written defense of the doctrine of the Trinity defined as Father, Son, and Holy Spirit )
was given by Tertullian in his work Against Praxeas written in the early 3rd century. On the other
hand Sir Thomas Aquinas, (28 January 1225 7 March 1274) uses the following objection to make his
argument in favor of God in three persons.
It would seem that there are not several persons in God . For person is the individual substance
of a rational nature. If then there are several persons in God, there must be several substances;
which appears to be heretical. op. cit., Q. 30, Art. 1
He goes about to answer this objection by redefining the word "person". He defines the word person as
"a relation subsisting in the Divine nature" and as such the properties found in God, such as goodness
and wisdom, are distinguishable, but subsist together as one, just not one person!?! He then attempts to
address the questions Why three? Which he answers because scripture says so. Never mind the fact that
the word three is never used to describe Gods. His second question is Three what?. To which he
answers "three persons" of course!? op. cit., Q. 30, Art. 2.. So basically he argues that persons are not
really persons but can still be three of anything as long as it is not a real person thus constituting the
three persons of God!?!?! This is a common Trinitarian escape to redefine three persons as not really
three persons as the world person is normally defined and used, (the are very creative with their
various definitions of person) but then turn right around and accuse anyone one who suggest that God
is only one person as the word person is normally defined and used is a heretic!?! On the one hand
they want to claim that God is three different persons just not as the word person is actually defined but
then spend the rest of the time arguing for why God must be three different persons as the word is
normally used and properly defined!?! These men are fools, destitute of truth, turning the truth of God
into a lie with their hypocrisy!
However, on the other hand while folks are busy idolizing the likes of these kinds of men and their
greatness they might ponder even give consideration to what Thomas Aquinas himself said about his
own work.
During the last weeks of his life something happened to Thomas but he never spoke of it or wrote it
down. Because of that vision. He abandoned his routine and refused to dictate to his socius Reginald of
Piperno. When Reginald begged him to get back to work, Thomas replied: "Reginald, I cannot, because
all that I have written seems like straw to me" (Davies, The Thought, p. 9.) That sounds a bit like 1Cor
3:13-14. No matter what ultimately happened to Thomas soul (accounted blissful ignorant or a willful
fool) apparently even he realized at the end that his writings and doctrines were good for nothing but the
fire!
Modern Trinitarians, such as Dr James White, have attempted to describe the trinity as a single God with
one being but having three persons in that one being. This is the creativity of Trinitarian lexicology. Now
while that construct might sound good to some, it is by definition nothing more then at best a God with
multiple personalities but in truth is a oxymoron. Trying to appeal to three separate persons in a single
being is nonsense since a being is a conciseness and a person is an individual conciseness. No matter
how you try to parse all of that, that is in fact arguing for a single God with multiple (or split)
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personalities or a contradiction in terms. Someone might want to let Dr White and others know that is
known as multiple personality disorder. (James 1:8) It is a mental illness not a virtue that describes the
God of the bible. But given that kind of position, and the fact that man was created in the image of God
then perhaps those suffering from multiple personality disorder are the most Godly among us?!?!
However the reality is that no such entity (a single being consisting of three different persons) exist
anywhere else except in the minds of the Trinitarians who created it for the sole purpose of trying to
explain what God really is. But as with the rest of Trinitarian logic is in fact just irrational,
unnecessary, God hating contradictions of foolishness! Further, what compounds such troubling
foolishness is the fact that so many are so confused by Trinitarian babbling that even the ones who
attempt to argue it is not three persons as the word person is normally defined will turn around and
argue why it really is three different persons as the word is normally used. They are so caught up in the
circular nonsense they cant see their own hypocrisy. They will say comments similar to the following:
Your view of "person" is far too wrapped up in modern conceptions of personhood. THE TYPE OF
"PERSON-NESS" THAT THE MEMBERS OF THE TRINITY HAS IS ENTIRELY DIFFERENT
THEN WHAT HUMAN BEINGS HAVE after admitting and trying to make that argument will then
spend the rest of any discussion trying to convenience everyone why it must in fact really be three
separate and or different persons as the world person is normally used!? Other such comments are
employed as in Jesus was not a ventriloquist at his baptism, as if that were the alternative needed (to
explain one person) or proves anything ?!? Appealing to attributes of God such as wisdom and love is
no different then appealing to appendages such as head and right arm except one of those is how the
scriptures describe God and the other is not!?! But both of those would still only qualify for one person
as the word person is normally defined! This is why and how Trinitarians double down on their
hypocrisy. Why are they even arguing against one person of God as the word person is normally used
if that does not contradict the Trinitarian definition of the word person or the Trinitarian position?
Supposedly your not even using the word person that way to begin with!? (James 1:8) While some have
also tried to describe God as having three centers of conciseness, but the problem is still present. What
need is there to have three centers of Conciseness in the first place? What does the conciseness look like,
what shape does it take? Why do they feel they need three different centers rather then one center that
occupies three locations, at the same time, just as the these diagrams show the area of White as God
which is clearly in three places all at the same time and only one single white area or conciseness.
Again, as stated so many times before everything in the nature of God revealed in scriptures can be
taken at face value without any need to artificially create or assume multiple and or three different
persons. This being the case the idea of three persons and doctrine of a triune God to try to explain it all
are unnecessary, unfounded without bases or substance external of the imaginations of men. Scriptures
demand nothing further then concepts of one as we have presented here. A fool however, no matter what
is shown him, will always default to his own nature. True to form, die hard Trinitarians dont care that
there is no need for their doctrine. They dont care that scriptures do not require. They dont care that it
obviously contradicts scripture unless you redefine all the terms your tying to use in ways that are not
normal or even in consistent ways. They dont even care they were told not to think beyond the
scriptures and that those scriptures can be understood at their face valued just as they are. They dont
care that having a doctrine for three persons is no more required then a doctrine to explain how all those
different narratives of Jesus are really multiple persons of Jesus. They only care that they have the faith
of the fathers deluded into believing that God must be pleased with them. And they do have the faith of
the fathers , just not the fathers of Christianity. They do the deeds of their father(s) and the devil.
PHILO OF ALEXANDRIA
The following is taken from weikipedia.com and is some more Greek pagan influence on the Jews of
Christ own day. So the fact that some Jewish folks may have been able to see multiple persons in the
godhead does not prove anything it is only evidence that trinitarains use the same pagan polytheistic
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like reasoning but call it different names and use different terms (but a rose by any other name is) and
add one more for the Jesus person in their godhead
Philo of Alexandria (/falo/; Greek: , Philn; c. 25 BCE c. 50 CE), also called Philo
Judaeus, was a Hellenistic Jewish philosopher who lived in Alexandria, in the Roman province
of Egypt.
Philo used philosophical allegory to attempt to fuse and harmonize Greek
philosophy with Jewish philosophy. His method followed the practices of both
Jewish exegesis and Stoic philosophy. His allegorical exegesis was important for several
Christian Church Fathers, but he has barely any reception history within Judaism. He believed
that literal interpretations of the Hebrew Bible would stifle humanity's view and perception of
a God too complex and marvelous to be understood in literal human terms.[citation needed]
Some scholars hold that his concept of the Logos as God's creative principle influenced
early Christology. Other scholars, however, deny direct influence but say both Philo and Early
Christianity borrow from a common source.[1]
The few biographical details known about Philo are found in his own works, especially
in Legatio ad Gaium (Embassy to Gaius), and in Josephus.[2] The only event in his life that can
be decisively dated is his participation in the embassy to Rome in 40 CE. He represented
the Alexandrian Jews before Roman Emperor Caligula because of civil strife between the
Alexandrian Jewish and Greek communities.
The following is taken from: http://www.earlyjewishwritings.com/text/philo/book5.html
THE CHERUBIM
IX. (27) I have also, on one occasion, heard a more ingenious train of reasoning from my own
soul, which was accustomed frequently to be seized with a certain divine inspiration, even
concerning matters which it could not explain even to itself; which now, if I am able to
remember it accurately, I will relate. It told me that IN THE ONE LIVING AND TRUE GOD
THERE WERE TWO SUPREME AND PRIMARY POWERS--GOODNESS AND
AUTHORITY; and that by his goodness he had created every thing, and by his authority he
governed all that he had created; (28) and that the third thing which was between the two, and
had the effect of bringing them together was reason, for that it was owing to reason that God was
both a ruler and good. NOW, OF THIS RULING AUTHORITY AND OF THIS
GOODNESS, BEING TWO DISTINCT POWERS, the cherubim were the symbols, but OF
REASON (the logos) the FLAMING SWORD WAS THE SYMBOL. For reason is a thing
capable of rapid motion and impetuous, and especially the reason of the Creator of all things is
so, inasmuch as it was before everything and passed by everything, and was conceived before
everything, and appears in everything. (29) And do thou, O my mind, receive the impression of
each of these cherubims unadulterated, that thus becoming thoroughly instructed about the ruling
authority of the Creator of all things and about his goodness, thou mayest receive a happy
inheritance; for immediately thou shalt understand the conjunction and combination of these
imperishable powers, and learn in what respects God is good, his majesty arising from his
sovereign power being all the time conspicuous; and in what he is powerful, his goodness, being
equally the object of attention, that is this way thou mayest attain to the virtues which are
engendered by these conceptions, namely, a love and a reverential awe of God, neither being
uplifted to arrogance by any prosperity which may befall thee, having regard always to the
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greatness of the sovereignty of thy King; nor abjectly giving up hope of better things in the hour
of unexpected misfortune, having regard, then, to the mercifulness of thy great and bounteous
God. (30) And let the flaming sword teach thee that these things might be followed by a prompt
and fiery reason combined with action, which never ceases being in motion with rapidity and
energy to the selection of good objects, and the avoidance of all such as are evil.
X. (31) Do you not see that even the wise Abraham, when he began to measure everything with a
reference to God, and to leave nothing to the creature, took an imitation of the flaming sword,
namely, "fire and a Sword,"{11}{#ge 22:6.} being eager to slay and to burn that mortal creature
which was born of him, that so being raised on high it might soar up to God, the intellect being
thus disentangled from the body. (32) Moses also represents Balaam, who is the symbol of a vain
people, stripped of his arms, as a runaway and deserter, well knowing the war which it becomes
the soul to carry on for the sake of knowledge; for he says to his ass, who is here a symbol of the
irrational designs of life which every foolish man entertains, that "If I had had a sword, I should
ere now have slain Thee."{12}{#nu 22:29.} And great thanks are due to the Maker of all things,
because he, knowing the struggles and resistance of folly, did not give to it the power of
language, which would have been like giving a sword to a madman, in order that it might have
no power to work great and iniquitous destruction among all whom it should meet with. (33) But
the reproaches which Balaam utters are in some degree expressed by all those who are not
purified, but are always talking foolishly, devoting themselves to the life of a merchant, or of a
farmer, or to some other business, the object of which is to provide the things necessary for life.
As long, indeed, as everything goes on prosperously with respect to each individual, he mounts
his animal joyfully and rides on cheerfully, and holding the reins firmly he will by no means
consent to let them go. And if any one advises him to dismount and to set bounds to his appetites,
because of his inability to know what will befall him hereafter, he reproaches him with jealousy
and envy, saying that he does not address him in this way out of good will. (34) But when any
unexpected misfortune overtakes him, he then looks upon those who have given him warnings as
good prophets and men able, above all others, to foresee the future, and lays the blame of his
distress on what is absolutely the cause of no evil whatever, on agriculture, on commerce, or on
any other pursuit which he may have thought fit to select for the purpose of making money.
THE COMMA JOHANNEUM
THIRDLY: 1 John 5:7.

For there ARE THREE THAT BEAR RECORD IN HEAVEN, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and THESE

THREE ARE ONE.

The phrase For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost:
and these three are one. Is called the Comma Johanneum There are a few points that need to be
made: Even this verse cannot be said to demonstrate multiple persons any more then a person stating my
arms and my legs and my face testify that I do or do not have tattoos all over my body. Already
demonstrated is the fact that Jesus, the Holy Spirit and the father were all said to be in heaven and on
earth at the same time! Neither the trinitarians nor those the deny the divinity of Christ understand the
scriptures, arguments on God's nature:... My head and right arm and spirit are all three ONE PERSON.
"Ironically", scriptures say man is made in the image of God and that is the way God defines "all three"
(which also makes sense when you consider the fact that scriptures also call God a PERSON not
persons.) Only fools would then try to go on and claim that since all three are one that therefore they
are all three different persons. But there is a sucker born every day they say.
Further The fact that three distinctions are mentioned in a list is not a proof of three different
things or persons. In fact, in writing and or public speaking there is a technical use called a
tetracolon and also rule of three it was widely used by the Greeks and roman orators of whom
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it is said perfected it even today in modern language it is widely used and scriptures use the
same basic construct. A good example of this can be seen here in Revelation
Rev 1:2 Who bare record of (1) THE WORD of God, and of (2) THE TESTIMONY of Jesus Christ, and of (3)
all THINGS THAT HE SAW. (Rev 19:9..These are the true sayings of God. .10for the testimony

of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy.) All three of these are the same thing..the word is the testimony
is the things that he saw not three different messages so this is simply saying the same thing three
different ways. It is NOT identifying three different things!?!
However, what is even more interesting is the fact that it has every appearance that it was either added to
the scriptures and not in the original Letter and or the way it is worded does not fit the actual exemplars
of the Phsase. It would have supposedly been added/altered for clarification but if so, has accomplished
little toward that goal.
There are about 300 Greek manuscripts (~501 total ancient exemplars) that have the book of I John in
them. Only manuscripts #61,16th century; #629, 14th or 15th, century; #918, 16th, century; #2318, 18th
century Further, they do not show their text the same as the Greek text and show evidence that the words
were translated into Greek from some other Latin text. There are five more manuscripts 88, 12th
century; 221, 10th; 429, 16th; 636, 15th that have the copied in the margin but by much later writers.
According to Daniel Wallace, there is one other known marginal note found in Codex 177 parchment
minuscule shelf number Cod. graec. 211. This document is an 11th century text and on page 74 recto can
be found in the margins the comma Johanneum phrase in question. The margin note is estimated by to
be 17th or 18th century based in part on the fact that whoever wrote the note makes reference to verse
numbers and verse numbers were not created until Stephanus fourth edition in 1551.
The Comma Johanneum or the heavenly witnesses phrase is quoted as scripture only by Latinspeaking writers after the middle 5th century. And the phrase is not found in any ancient translation of
the NT made in any of the the 2nd-10th century translations such as the Syriac, Coptic, Armenian,
Georgian, Gothic, Ethiopic, Arabic, Slavic. The Comma Johanneum is only found the Old Latin version
but even then not in the oldest manuscripts of the old Latin version. It is also found in many manuscripts
of the Latin Vulgate, but again not the earliest ones.

Erasmus did not use include that phrase in his original or revised 1519 edition and he got sharply
criticized for not including the phrase. He said that he did not use the phrase because he did not find it in
any of the Greek manuscripts. He did however, promise to include it in an update if the phrase was ever
found in even one Greek manuscript. Later He did because a manuscript was found although even
Erasmus suspected it to be a forgery.
The words For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost:
and these three are one. in 1 John 5:7 cannot be claimed to be original part of John's letter. These
words have no claim to anything other then the appearance of later addition to the text based on a
deliberately fabricated manuscript by an Irish monk. That manuscript is known today as #61 and it is on
a different kind of paper with a glossy finish from the rest of the manuscript. However it was on the
basis of that manuscript that Erasmus included the phrase in his 3rd, - 5th editions but he also protested
that he did not believe the phrase genuine. What is of even further interst is the fact that the phrase used
in the manuscript does not even read like the one Erasmus used when he finally did include the phrase.
From that time, nearly all Greek NTs were simply reprints of Erasmus' 4th or 5th edition, until the 19th
century. This phrase thus continued to be used as part of I John even though there is no evidence for its
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existence. The Wycliffe English translation made in the 1380s, use the Medieval Latin manuscripts, so it
includes the phrase but with "son" instead of "word." Tyndale's English translation of 1525 used
Erasmus' 3rd edition but in the 2nd and 3rd English editions. However, he and the latter editions by his
assistant Miles Coverdale placed the phrase in parentheses to indicate the doubt. In the1552 edition of
Tyndale's NT by Jugge, did not use the parentheses and many later Bibles, followed that practice. The
KJV used Beza's 1598 Greek NT, as it source document and it is a virtual reprint of Erasmus' 4th edition
which contained the phrase under question. Because of these facts many of the more recent translations
such as ASV, NASB, NIV do not use the phrase or it is only mentioned in a footnote.

Also note: Some have tried to claim that if verse 7 (of 1Jn ch 5)were not there it would not be
grammatically correct. That argument is just grasping for straws. The very same readings that
showed that verse 7 was not originally in the text are grammatically correct without it and as
such any such notion that somehow, the text would magically be grammatically incorrect if it
were not there is just wild eyed ,wishful thinking and pure fantasy to say the least ...The Greek
text that some use to claim that vers 7 is there (as the "original text") and depend on might be
grammatically incorrect (if that verse were not there) but those text are the text in question and
real or fake those textual variants that verse 7 is based on are constructed so as to be read
grammatically correct that way. The fact that a given text may be grammatically consistent is not
evidence that it is the original text!?! Thus, in short, producing a consistent forgery is not proof
that the forgery is not fake!?!
Even if the Comma Johanneum phrase were legitimate it would only make proper understanding require
more careful thought and evaluation. But, it still would not demand or prove or show three different
persons for God. The only way to get multiple persons of God out of the scriptures is to make
assumptions first and then use those assumptions to interpret the scriptures with. That is called a circular
fallacy and that is what all of the trinity arguments do. My head and right arm and any other part of
me can all testify that i have no tattoos (asl already demonstrated Christ is that part of God that God
considers his right arm Not another person)
Jesus is simply that part of the spirit of God which is the Holy Spirit that impregnated Marry and
became/ manifested itself in the flesh. This is also the Reason the spirit of Christ is synonymous with the
Holy Spirit. Christ prays (communicates like a man) to the father in the same way that my hand
communicates with me via the connections within to the head for its nutrients and pain et al
(particularly if someone else slams a couple of nails through it!) My hand is not a different personality
from me (its head). .A distinction of a person is not the same thing as a different person, and those
distinctions can communicate with each other just as the pain in your right hand is felt in your right hand
and that pain is communicated to your head which then sends instructions to your right arm to take
action...it is not that difficult to understand the problem is Trinitarians do not want to understand they
want to make excuses for lies that are clear and blatant contradictions of God himself. The Trinitarian
mindset can see seen quite clearly. For them, up is down and down is up,.confusion and irrational
doctrines make perfect sense while ordinary and obvious explanations seem confusing and difficult to
grasp or comprehendthat is why it is called a doctrine of devils..& also Isaiah 5:2021
God is a spirit but that spirit was born into flesh of a man and that man is the son (in the flesh) of God
because that man is the God who is a spirit. Man was made in the image of God and that is in part the
significance of Christ referred to as the right hand of God and why his name is the everlasting father.
There is nothing in scripture that demands three persons but on the other hand, God promised delusions
for those who do not love the truth. But, the issue is not that it is impossible to image three persons in
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the scriptures, it is just that such ideas are unnecessary, contradictory, incoherent and inconsistent
application of authority. It all boils down to a choice of faith either in the words of God or the reasons
that men give about Gods words. Rather then trying to understand how God could be just one substance
and one person in comparison and contrast to His own statements as well as the creation that He made in
his own image (man) .oh no, these children of perdition would rather create and embellish demonic
(James 3:14-15) wisdom and lies. After they have deceived themselves and those that would hear their
orthodox heresy, they actually believe that they have defended the faith and are expecting a reward in
the next life!?! Expect to hear I never knew you because your God is triune. The fact there is and we
can make a distinction between you and your body parts in function (i.e communication) and form
(physically and in the spirit) should have given you great pause before you decided to go to your graves
staunchly defending a contradiction of God based on the wisdom of devils and fools. Many are called
[only Christians are called; Acts 2:29; Jn 10:26-27; Isaiah 4:12/Gal 3:7,29 et al] few are chosen. (Mat
22:14) Orthodoxy is one of the best descriptions of all those called/Christians who will be lost! This is
what the seven churches demonstrates for us out of the seven very few were commended the others were
ready to be judged. O heresy of Orthodoxy! .Tying to validate yourselves based on the various ways
the term orthodoxy is applied as opposed to its true meaning is the folly of fools.

THE CHURCH FATHERS

Some have tried to argue for the doctrine of the trinity by saying the same group of people who
historically canonized the Scriptures also proclaimed the Trinity
(1) The scriptures existed prior to the orthodox bishops or any group came together to
determine doctrine. Ergo: 2Tim 3:15.they had them in the first century no one had to wait
around for some church council et al to decide!?!.... ; 1 Cor 4:6 that ye might learn in us not to
think of men above that which is written,. Never mind the logical nonsense of having everyone
for the !00-200 during the period after the apostles till the orthodox bishops got together to
determine for us what the scriptures are, but even if that was true then there is no way to validate
those orthodox bishops who came along latter to decide?!?
(2) Even if some group of people had been entrusted with the cannon that does not have anything
to do with whether or not the doctrine of that group is valid or heresy. Rom 3:1-2 the scriptures
were committed and kept by the Jews who were so pious and God fearing people that they
missed, denied and then killed the messiah based on what they saw in those scriptures..
Paul who was an apostle stated the following about Himself....."Learn in us not to think of men
beyond what is written" (1 Cor 4:6) .That would include anyone or any group church father
or Council that came after him.......and means you cannot use Church fathers to determine proper or
sound interpretation but rather must use scripture to determine anyone else interpretation is proper or
sound.....even the devil can quote scriptures and through some truth in to make lies appealingit
matters not if they had anything of use to say or not that fact is they were the very heretics Paul warned
everyone about would come from the leaders in the church (Acts 20:28-30) Most Christians were
impoverished and or not well education such as Acts 4:13Peter and John, and perceived that
they were unlearned and ignorant men, Further, 1 Cor 6:26 For ye see your calling, brethren, how
that not many wise men after the flesh, not many mighty, not many noble, are called:..The writings
that we have to come down to us that survived the centuries via Church fathers were usually men who
were not of the ignorant uneducated and or impoverished classThat by it self means little, but when
you put it into the context of the majority of doctrines that get passed on in this life are doctrines of
devils, error and Heretics, It should not take a genius to realize that what survived and came down to us
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through the ages was not the pure faith but rather the popular error of the time!! It was what was left
after all the errors were passed around and sifted throughout the populace ..Did you really think
that work of the church fathers was God as opposed to a reflection of error and sin in the world?!?
..God promised to preserved his word, not how scholarship would perceive that word in the
subsequent centuries!!. You were told not to think beyond the scriptures not about how the church
fathers saw it.. You show me Where the scriptures say trinity or demand a trinity or the Apostles
taught Trinity. You cannot, because it only existed as someone explanations that came latter out of their
minds not the scriptures or as taught by any of the Apostles or Jesus...All of Christ statements can be
understood within the face value of the statement I and my father are one your God is one et al ............
The Church fathers are there for those who refuse to hear the scriptures
There is no doubt that some will find these things very difficult to understand but reason is clear (and
the same as it was in Pauls day) it is not because it is not simple but rather because you have turned
light into darkness and put bitter for sweet, your obfuscation and stubborn resistance to the truth as
humility and piety for so long that you actually believe in your own hypocrisy and lies. When people
like Dr James White say things such as I love the trinity they are in fact confessing with their own
mouths they love not the truth. Those kinds of people put darkness for light and turn the truth of God
into a lie!. Take your cup of your fathers and drink up fools, the Lord shall surely provide you with
abundant sustenance.
2 Thess 2: 11. And for this cause GOD SHALL SEND THEM STRONG DELUSION, THAT THEY SHOULD
BELIEVE A LIE: 12. THAT THEY ALL MIGHT BE DAMNED WHO BELIEVED NOT THE TRUTH, but
had pleasure in unrighteousness.

Trinitarians make three fundamental gross errors:

1. Trinity demands a universe external to a God rather then a God external of a universe Otherwise, see
charts there is no valid need (internal or external to the text) to even begin to justify suggesting multiple
persons in the first place (every difficulty can be easily understood as one person [since three persons is
never mentioned] without invoking or even suggesting multiple persons)..... As such they create a
doctrine in search of a need or purpose.........
2. Trinitarians are looking at scriptures and God's own descriptions all completely backwards. God is
referring to his right hand that he sent and put into flesh as his son. (because that right arm comes into
the physical world via a physical birth) God is NOT.....NOT.... referring to a separate person who is the
son as His right hand as in he is my right hand man! ....... THE SON OF GOD is a reference to the
fact that human flesh was born of a women. What that WOMAN (who is of man) gave birth to was
a\SON (it certainly was not a daughter) and that SON (of man/woman) was OF GOD because it
was God himself not a different person of God but the one person who is God who is a spirit put his own
right arm into human flesh and let it be born of man/woman ERGO SON OF GOD. These fools think
Jesus is a different person because he was born into human flesh?!?
3 Since Trinitarians accept without critique the need to even suggest multiple persons, they build a
circular fallacy in their approach to interpretations which "create" the need for their doctrine which
make it nearly impossible for them to see these fundamental errors. .................................i.e. .they infect
the host (minds) with a created sickness ( multiple persons in text based on errors of #1&2) so as to
provide the cure (doctrine of trinity).....The doctrine of trinity is in turn used to interpret the text so as to
show that there is in fact a sickness (multiple persons) that needs to be "treated" (cured/
explained)................This circular reasoning is why it is so hard for them to see their error and hypocrisy.....
OTHER CONSIDERATIONS & MISSALANIOUS COMMENTS:
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COMMENT #1: According to your chart we all exist inside God; The good and the bad and all of
creation that was cursed after the fall by God . We are all in God/in Christ since they are the same one
white light.
-does everyone who is in Christ/in God recover spiritual blessings (Eph 1:3)?
-Is 1 John 1:1 incorrect in suggesting that his is light and in Him is no darkness/ sin at a all?
- How can a bad people and a cursed/bad world be inside a good God?
-Where is Hell/Torment/ eternal separation from God?
- Was is created by God for the devil and his angels (Matt 25:41)?
-Is Hell then also inside God? How is that separation?
ANSWER: Notwithstanding Acts 17:28 and the logical implications of a God who is both is omniscient
and omnipresent...However, Rev 14:10 he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone IN THE
PRESENCE OF the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb:..............Even philosophically,
everything that exist comes from a singularity ....that is to say that every difference that can exist all
originally came from a single homogeneous source or God ....thus all differences and distinctions are
simply matters of perspective and definition of that singularity....but as for how to be inside and yet
separate one example would be: ..a bubble within a bubble is separate from that which holds the outer
bubble, there is no contact between the outside holding the outside bubble and the and the inside
bubble......... ...so they are truly separate ....You also need to understand this because your idea of
separate may not how the bible describes the separation of hell et al but what I am showing you is
consistent with the following:...NOTE: Rev 20:10 Day & night are creations ......14:11 ascended up to
where for ever and ever? Rev 18:9&20 they see the smoke of that burning forever ..........................So it
is not that the saints who will be with God do not see and rejoice over the smoke that rises out of the
lake of fire and torment Ergo:.................. Rev 14:10 he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone IN
THE PRESENCE OF the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb:... and yet they are still
separate even though they are in the presence of. It is simply matters of perspective.
Although many would denounce "The pope" they in fact have their own popes. This is proven out to be
the case by virtue of the fact that most cannot defend or even understand their own doctrines and yet
with mindless thought they can regurgitate the same SoundBits of heresy their "popes" decree in their
churches and church doctrines......This is obviously due to years of brainwashing with mindless pew
sitters who go along with the flow of heresy they happen to be "floating" in.
COMMENT#2: Please explain the tripartite nature of man: spirit, soul and body?
ANSWER: Three parts is NOT three different persons with each person having their own different
consciousnesses NOR is it an example of three different minds as trinitarianism argues for...so First and
Foremost your example is IRRELEVANT (three parts of God is my argument not the trinitarians)
.SECONDLY: If your going to appeal to parts of a man as justification for three different persons then
your argument is a oxymoron/ self contradiction Man is only one person not three persons and since
Man is made in the image of God any example using men is PROOF of one person of God and can
never satisfy a logical argument for three different persons of God no matter how you try to slice and
dice a man and his spirit/soul et al up!?!?!..................#2.spirit and soul are the same thing, so you only
really gave two parts not three ....#3. The spirit of Christ is the Holy spirit according to scriptures and
Christ himself ..#4 The PARTS of God that scriptures outline are not the ones you put forward so even
the way you try "slice"/ Divide God up into parts is wrong
QUESTION#3: So, your problem is a bible reference for the word "trinity"?

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ANSWER: No, The issue is 1. God has described himself as ONE person NOT three different persons
period.....2. The worship of three different persons who are each God with different amounts of God
knowledge, power, and authority is nothing but polytheism with different wrapping paper on it, lying
telling everyone is is monotheism..........People can claim they are not a lias all day long.., but if they
constantly lie then they are a liar regardless of the claim....The worship of three different person is the
worship of three different gods who are not the same but different.. simply saying no we just don't
understand only demonstrates the delusions of fools..it not sound scripture, logic or anything other then
a lie that is passing itself off as the truth period!. The fact that God said he
is "one" and someone came along and contradicts that and states "God is three in one" should have given
you a hint, harking back to
Satan in The garden...God said you will die...Satan comes along and states no you will be more
WISE.....T .God said He is one; but Satan's children come along and say no three in one is more
WISE
ARGUMENT#4: There is no worship of three different Gods in the Christian world. We worship only
one: God the father, God the Son and God the Holy Spirit.
ANSWER: If that were true then Trinitarains would not find what is present them as so offensive, nor
would they contradict the explicit passages that state God is one person. .........Your/ the trinitarian's own
arguments betray you!?!....The very fact that you cannot admit what is being saying here is true about
God is proof you worship three different personal gods, only lying to yourselves claiming three different
god persons is only ONE God ......If you only worshiped One God then there would be no difference
between us...and you and the rest of the trinitarins would 1. understand the truth of what i am saying
and hold to it also since we both worship the same ONE God ...... 2 If what you were saying were true
then you would not find what i show you so objectionable...FOOLS!, If you can worship three different
persons as one God then anyone who worships the Greek gods could also claim they too are really
monotheist who only worship one god who just happens to be multiple different persons in heaven (one
comes down and visits) since the origins of the gods have them all come from a single one source God
essence as well!?! This is called: "Soft" polytheism, which holds that gods may be aspects of only one
god, that the pantheons of other cultures are representative of one single pantheon, psychological
archetypes or personifications of natural forces or for the trinitarians "characteristics" "love" wisdom" et
al (This is contrasted with "Hard" polytheism is the belief that gods are distinct, separate, real divine
beings not psychological archetypes or personifications of natural forces or just characteristics. Hard
polytheists reject the idea that "all gods are one God .") The only difference is not in practice but rather
terminology. Trinity refers to three different persons as one God the Greeks could agree with the three
different od persons are just attributes to the one God ....!?!? This same kind of dilemma would also
exist for Hindu Polytheism as well; Reference the ten avatars of Vishnu. Vishnu and his many faces. It
would not matter if any one claimed that their ONE god using the Greek et al pantheon was the same
God as the bible or not. Because, the point is if you can claim to be monotheist then so too could any of
them in which case there would not need be any difference between polytheism and monotheism at
all!?! Simply claiming that three persons is ONE God as a mystery is not valid any more so then a
pathological liar who makes the claim he does not lie, you just dont understand him (and or how
mysterious his ways are) as valid proof of his assertion that he speaks the truth! What determines the
worship of ONE God is not in the mere claim (chalk up any oxymorons to mystery and or
paradoxical[apparent contradictions] mysteries) but rather in the reality of the language that God
communicated via his scriptures to us. Inventing concepts that have no need to be put forward in the first
place is a sure indication that your made up concepts are just that made up , because the scriptures
provide ample reasons to understand it all using normal language and concepts without mysterious
incomprehensible concepts that do not even apply to the very creation that was made in his own image.
One God person or three different God persons one of those is monotheism the other is poly theism with
nothing more then just a different wrapping paper on it that claims were not polytheist DRINK UP,
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THIS IS NOT POISONIOUS .And so our warning to you who are considering
trinitarianism .Caveat emptor (buyer beware!!).....1 Tim 4:1. Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that
in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of
devils; 2. SPEAKING LIES IN HYPOCRISY; having their conscience seared with a hot iron;
COMMENT#5:
I'm considering your view and reading your words. I am thinking that technically John 17:5 can be
paraphrased in this way
"Now, me, glorify me together with myself, with the glory which I had with myself before the world
was."
I'm trying to grasp an understanding here.
Christ is God but not a separate person. Christ is God in that he is an extension of God .
So the analogy is that Christ is like a limb (right arm) of God . The flesh of Christ was nothing more
than a bag of bones and meat but it was the spirit of God who animated it which made it Jesus.
ANSWER:
#1.: Yes, I can see why the paraphrase you just constructed is difficult for you to grasp. Your trying to
understand it without the geographical and other context in the same way that if I tried to give you
directions to down town NY but do not tell you in what city I started the directions from or where they
end, it would be fairly nonsensical.In the same way, God is in two different universes entirely,
communicating and functioning at two different ranks (human life form [Phil 2:8] and Elohim life form)
at the same time. Communicating differently and making reference to the other parts/ranks of HIMSELF
in those other geographies/universes by communicating that information to the lower life forms/humans
who exist in only one of those universes at a time..........so yea I can see why that paraphrase would
cause you pause if you ignore the geographical, rank et al context..
The head of your right hand is you but your right arm is still you as well. Still only one person (but in
your case if you put your right hand into a leather glove it is still in the same universe that your head is,
this was not the case with God and his right hand/Jesus) In any case, if you were a spirit trying to
communicate to a lower life form in the form of that lower life form in the language of that lower life
form by putting part of your spirit into the same form of that lower life form you are going to tell all
those other lower life forms that can only see that part of you (in that glove) about your head and how
that part of you that they cannot see is their God/ HE/ Father in heaven et al your right hand is
going to need to refer to itself using personal pronouns to the other lower life forms that your hand is in
the form of itself..but it will also refer to that part of you in the other universe/heaven that is the
greater part, in fact you (your right hand doing the communicating to the other humans) are the lesser
part of the father/ the head/ he that is in heaven/ Their God/ HE et al. There are only
distinctions in the manifestations due to being in different kinds of universes ie spiritual & physical and
functioning differently in those all at the same time....Same HE or HIM but the HE that is in heaven is
also the He that is on earth but the HE on earth is subordinate and obedient to the HE in heaven because
the HE in heaven is the greater part of the HE that is on earth!?!........They all use and have personal
pronouns because they are all the same person in those different states. The different parts of God in
those different universes (physical & spiritual) all referring to each other not different persons!?!
This is gets to John 20:17 I ascend unto MY FATHER, and YOUR FATHER; and to MY GOD, and YOUR GOD.
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How else would a God (living entity) existing/operating in multiple different kinds of universes
communicate as a lower life form/ humans in the physical universe refer to the greater part of himself
in the other greater universe that actually in charge of the part of himself communicating this to the
humans in that physical universe?? ..So while He is God, dont worship the flesh you see for God is a
spirit.Jesus was flesh with the spirit of God animating it ..Worship Jesus (Mat 28:17) but not the flesh
of the man, bur rather, the God that was a man.That flesh communicated to the other men how that
their God is in heaven and is spiritso dont worship the flesh of the man before them, worship His
God and their God. This was not a denouncing on Christ part that he was God only a denunciation that
the flesh standing before them was not to be worshiped and that the greater part of God was in heaven
not standing in front of themHe is/ was all God just like your right hand in a leather glove is All
you but it is not all there is to you. Tthe greater part of you is not inside of the Glove and that part that
controls your right hand (tells your right hand what to say and what to do) is not in the glove either
So the question is if God is in heaven speaking about the him who would be coming to them, then
who is this Him that will come if they are the same person?...The him is the human that is formed
when that part of the spirit of God gets connected to human flesh in a way that the rest of the spirit of
God is not connected to flesh. God is a spirit and elohim life.(see ch 8) God is not a human but a
human is the result of life (a spirit) in human flesh and thus God became human when God connected
that part of his spirit that he considers to be his right arm/hand to flesh in a way that the rest of gods
spirit was not. This is no different then a mans right hand in a leather glove is in contact with the leather
(and now the leather glove and move/animated) in a way that the rest of the man is not. The difference is
that while a normal human has a spirit that spirit does not extend beyond the physical limits of that body
in space or time. However, the spirit in the human that was Jesus did extend infinitely in space and time
because that spirit was the omnipresent-omnipotent God. It was only part of that spirit of God but it was
the same God and the same spirit of the same person who is the same God in heaven and on earth at the
same time.
What is easier all that i just said or is is just easier to say "I and my father are one"..but " He that is in
heaven is Greater then I"..??? conveys the same information if you have faith in the one who said it the
way "He" said it without using men's imaginative inventions........All of this long winded explanation
that has been given here is solely due to the faithless imaginations and Gordian knot of Trinitarian fools
and heretics who twist yet pretend to honor God by making God into the image of their minds rather
then understanding God as parts of a man made in Gods image that God uses to describe the nature of
father, son and holy spirit aka HIMSELF!?!
(B). considerations on Bag of bones comment..
Your spirit animates your body just as a puppet is animated by a hand in a puppet glove. You can put
your right hand into a glove or puppet and animate it. Your spirit is animating your physical flesh. The
physical flesh is nothing more then a more complex puppet of your spirit. Jesus is nothing but that part
of the spirit of God that came and occupied the same physical flesh as you and me and animated it in the
same way that we are animated by our spirits. If you understand this then passages like Jn 12:49. For I
have not spoken of myself; but the Father which sent me, he gave me a commandment, what I should
say, and what I should speak. make perfect sense. All you have to do is work through the basic reality
of your human flesh animated as a puppet of the spirit that is inside of it (or your right arm in a leather
glove of flesh) communicating to all the other human flesh puppets (leather gloves) that it is not there to
communicating its own message but rather to the message that you (in this case the sprit of God) is
telling that flesh to communicate to all the other human flesh animated by human spirits. Work through
the exercise, a puppet, give it animation, let it communicate but it will only communicate what you (the
man behind the Curtin or a spirit inside of it) gives it to communicate and it is not there to speak of
itself but to communicate what you give it to speak and do.. It is not difficult to understand all you have
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to do is work through the implications and practical realities of your every day world experience. This is
why even his Godhead.clearly seen and without excuse in Rom 1:20 is so very true. Everyday
experience can explain the nature of God using the modalistic descriptions and allegories found in
scripture with everyday experience. However, trinitarianism cannot be seen or understood in everyday
experience and is in fact as admitted to in their own confessions of faith (and by virtue of their God is
so great we cant put God in a box, we just cant understand it arguments/excuses) is admittedly
INCOMPREHSIBLE.
The difference is that our spirits were created by Jesus himself who is the father and God of all spirits. IF
YOU FIND THE CONCEPT OF JESUS AS A PUPPET DISTURBING THEN JUST LOOK IN THE
MIRROR BECAUSE THAT IS WHAT YOU ARE! A flesh puppet which has no inherent derogatory
meaning except in the context or in the way in which we see it as it is otherwise used which is an
entertainment or childrens educational show.. This might be yet another hint: child like in how Gods
own descriptions of himself are use so that even a child can grasp the nature of God that God has
revealed. Why? So you will be without excuse when you are eternally damned for not believing that
Jesus is the Father and same person and God in heaven Our spirits were separated from God and
chained to this flesh until it dies. (which means the spirit separated from the flesh) So God came to us
and chained himself (his right hand and arm) to the same flesh that we had. When Christ died the spirit
of God that was in Christ left physical flesh that it had once animated and went to the grave. Death had
no power over Jesus because Jesus is the right hand of God that created the place of the grave, death and
hell itself! But the issues goes far beyond just an image of God, even so Jesus is nothing more then flesh
with that part of God that God refers to himself as His own right hand and arm animating it for us so that
we can see the father or the God who is spirit. It is God come in the flesh to teach man about God and
how to worship, live, pray, suffer and even die to God Himself?!
It matters not how exactly how a omnipresent God is able to describe himself in and with
Anthropomorphic terms and or concepts The fact it he does and in the very context of the creation that
was made in his own image. So our faith either rest in that or in some rejection of that in favor of some
other invented nature and chalk up all the contradictions and inconsistencies to a grand
incomprehensible magnificent nature of God created in the image of mens imaginations.
COMMENT#6
Please explain rev.5:1,5-6. In that account, there is a persona that is seating on the throne holding a
book, who is HE? in verse 5&6 there is a persona standing in the midst of the congregation, THE
LAMB. who is HE? are they the same if not. is it not right to say that the Father is not The Son in the
God head?
ANSWER:
(1). The Charts shown (PG 32) next are conceptualized diagrams demonstrating how God is
omnipresent and the physical and spiritual universes (environments of men and angles/ heaven and
earth) all exist inside of God rather then God existing and limited to the inside of some environment that
God himself must depend on. God created the environments for men and angles then projects himself
into his creations which is why God is everywhere and the father and son and holy spirit can all be the
same person that is injected into those creations at different times and or different ways and yet remain
undiluted or disconnected from each other. (all at the same time)
NOTE that in Rev Ch 5 verse 6 that same Jesus seen standing at the right hand of the father is also said
to be seen a lamb that had been killed as well as seen or called a lion!?!?...... NOTE IT DOES NOT SAY
THAT IT SAW JESUS AS A LAMB IT STATES THAT JOHN SAW A LAMB WITH SEVEN HORNS
AND SEVEN EYES that looked as if it had been killed. ..the point this verse does not help your
cause.!?!?..How can the same thing be two different things a man standing in one instent and a lamb
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that has been killed the next, all at the same time???. The fact is that seeing Jesus standing next to the
father (looking like a man) is not any more proof of a second person of God then seeing that lamb that
was slain is proof that Jesus is an animal!?!?God is not a man nor an animal and when Jesus who is
God returned to heaven as he was before he returned to heaven as the God who was in Heaven before he
came to the earth with the form that He had before he came to earth. Spirits are not limited to function
and form the same way that things in the physical universe arein the physical you are either a lion or a
lamb or a man standing somewhere but in the spiritual universe those can all take place at the same time.
Because spirit can take many forms and shapes and functions all at the same time..this also gets
to pg18 ALLEGORY OR METAPHOR VERSE LITERAL
Also note Rev 1:8 Jesus is identified as the almighty which goes perfectly with all those OT scriptures
that state the father is the same person as the son and the son is the same person as the fatherThe
ALMIGHTY can be in two different locations even in heaven at the same time looking like a man or a
lamb or a lamb standing next to a manbecause God is OMNIPRESENT which means there is no place
that he cant manifest himself in different ways ALL at the same time..!?!?
Jesus who is God, sits at the right hand of God . The environment of the physical universe as well as the
environment of the Angels in heaven all exist internal to God by virtue of the fact among other things
that they are all limited where as God is unlimited thus the limited must logically exist within the
infinite...Ironically those that try to argue Trinity "punting" to the glory and incomprehensible grand
nature of God don't realize they are in fact putting God into a box (an environment) that God lives and
depends on inside of, rather then the Box existing within God ......so tell me "How big is your God"?
Col 2:8. Beware lest any man SPOIL YOU THROUGH PHILOSOPHY and vain DECEIT, AFTER
THE TRADITION OF MEN, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ. 9. For IN HIM
DWELLETH ALL THE FULNESS OF THE GODHEAD BODILY

SUMMARY & CONCLUSION:

God is ONE person is in the text both OT and NT (VERBAITM) and this here has demonstrated the
scriptures on this fact. On the other hand, God is three different persons is not in any verse anywhere in
the NT or OT.....It is only several extrapolations from cherry picked verses that could allow for
multiple different persons if you ignore all others that make specific reference to the number of persons
of God as ONE ONLY..... However those same verses that "allow" for the possibility for multiple
different persons if you only look at them and ignore all the rest, can also just as easily be understood as
one person. It is this play on what could be and what is demanded in these various passages that is the
quintessential subtle trap that has snared so many of you into delusional heresy and damnation.
I find it ironic that so many do not seem to see the significance between worshiping Three different
persons who are God ....verses.....Worshiping One person who is God in Three different
manifestations........it is further of interest to note that on the one hand some will try to claim it is the
same thing and then turn right around and viciously attacking the idea that God is only one
person...........Well if there is no difference and it does not matter weather or not God is three different
persons or only One person, why such an aversion to saying God is only one person?? Three different
persons or ONE person it is all just the same thing right? ...I think many do understand that it is NOT the
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same thing and as such cannot be considered just a trivial matter........for some people that in itself is a
starting point....Just to understand that HEY it makes a big difference.......
On the other hand for those who do see the difference and do think it is a grave matter of salvation or
damnation the root fundamental issue is that the trinitarian side will attempt to demand that a distinction
between father and son must be a different person .The Oneness group will point out that YES there is
a distinction between the father and the son but a distinction by itself is not a demand for multiple
different persons or different things. ONE person has distinct parts the head is not the right arm but it is
the same person.
If we are going to let the scriptures speak why the need for all the explanations that use every
description and or credo statement known to man except for the very terms and concepts that the
scriptures themselves use to describe the savior and the servant to come. Why all of the aversion to what
the scriptures say. While it is true that many passages can be understood in different ways, you cannot
make the scriptures contradict each other or cherry pick what you consider to be literal to claim your
postion is logically valid. You cannot ignore and abuse logic on the one hand because God is greater
then our human reasoning while at the same time trying to use reason and logic to explain your
position. When cherry picked portions of scripture and argument fit in a logical way the Trinitarian they
will say it is just common sense. Or come now let us reason togetherHowever, when everything is
put together and it becomes obvious that the arguments do not and cannot conform to logical and
consistent application they appeal is then to the fact that God is so great and past all of our human
understanding.
CALLING GODS DOCTRINES AND TRUTH BY THE NAMES OF THE DEVILS LIES, SO AS
NOT TO OFFEND THE DEVILS SERVANTS, IS NOT A PATH TO GODLINESS
Some have very foolishly suggested that all of this is just playing with semantics and that the doctrine
trinity and sound doctrine are compatible. The doctrine of the trinity has a real definition no matter
how some people may want to use the term(s) in ignorance or otherwise. However, and in any case, that
doctrine is a heresy and people need to know it and what it is. It only furthers the cause of a lie by hiding
the meaning of those lies behind false definitions and or concepts. It would be no different then claiming
that Jesus was evil and it is true if we just dont define the English word evil the way the official
definition of the word is (because Jesus was evil to those who hated him) That makes no sense except as
a subtle example of an vain attempt to call good evil and evil good!?! People may be using terms in
ways they do not really understand but even in that they are promoting the spreading a lie and confusing
the other people who dont understand the slight of hand that the magicians are using to spread that
lie.use the word evil the way the word evil is defined.use the trinity the way the word is
defined..If you want to use the term evil or trinity in a different way then it is definedthat is up to
you but you might as well be speaking to the wind in a different language. You may think you are
making sense to you and your friends but your only going to confuse yourself and everyone else by
using false and Fiat terminology. Simply calling your ONE car or ONE house a trinity does not make it
true, no matter how much you insist upon it and only demonstrates that you are a confused individual
who is trying to play with the devils toys but making it " ok" by calling those toys by other names. Not
only is there no such thing as a trinity in scripture but the very word is a contradiction of both scripture
and terms. The way you describe your version of trinity may not the doctrine of trinity and some folks
seem to like to make up their own versions of doctrines up, and then calling it trinity so that the devils
children will still like them!?!? That is you simply trying to call truth by the name of a lie and is like
someone saying Jesus was a liar but not the kind of liar your thinking of. No, Jesus was a liar of truth
because the truth is a lie to those who love and believe in lies...YES THAT WOULD BE STUPID as a
norm, but that is exactly what some folks are trying to do when they describe a version of oneness and
call it trinity or "trinity a "oneness" so that the trinitarians et al will not be so offended!?!? That is
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just another example of how confused people are as well as concerned with the praises of men rather
then of God. You can't love the devil and call it Christianity nor can you claim that your Christianity is
"devil worship" so that the Satanist will not be offended by your doctrine!?!? That does not make your
Christianity Christian nor does it make devil worship more godly!?!
The apostle John the disciple that Jesus loved who it was said about if I will that he remain till I come what is that to
you (Peter) records the words of Jesus that speak of these things very very clearly:
1. If you do not believe that the servant who was sent is the same person that sent that servant,
you will die in your sins
2. If you hold to three different persons of God where the father person sends a different son
person you will die in you sins because the speaker who stated that he would send a servant said
that servant would be HIMSELF and they would know that it was HIM!?!
3. Malachi 2:10 Have we not all ONE FATHER? hath not ONE GOD created us? Jesus Created all
thingsBy him in the same way by your hand you do.Eph 4:6. One God AND Father of
all...God is the father. the Father is God.Jesus is God Jesus is the Father!!!
This is why Jesus asked them: Notice they asked to see THE FATHER and the response was Jn
14:9 ..HAVE I BEEN SO LONG time with you, and yet hast THOU NOT KNOW ME, Philip?.....Now
image some fool trying to claim that statement if you asked to see his wife!?!!? The whole point to
Christ statements is that he is the SAME person as the father [you want to see the FATHER but have I
been with you but you dont know me!?!?!] because God is only one person not three different persons.
Ironically, the father will in turn identify the son as the father also.

John 1:1.
THE WORD WAS WITH GOD,
AND THE WORD WAS GOD
In the beginning was the Word, and

. 2. The same was in the beginning with God. 3. ALL THINGS WERE
MADE BY HIM; AND WITHOUT HIM WAS NOT ANY THING MADE THAT WAS MADE. 4. In him was life; and the life was the light of men. 5.
And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not. 6. There was a man sent from God, whose name was John. 7. The same came for a
witness, to bear witness of the Light, that all men through him might believe. 8. He was not that Light, but was sent to bear witness of that Light. 9. That
was the true Light, which lighteth every man that cometh into the world. 10. He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him
not. 11. He came unto his own, and his own received him not. 12. But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to
them that believe on his name: 13. Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God. 14. And THE WORD
WAS MADE FLESH, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.

THAT WHICH WAS FROM THE BEGINNING, WHICH WE HAVE HEARD, WHICH WE
HAVE SEEN WITH OUR EYES, WHICH WE HAVE LOOKED UPON, AND OUR HANDS HAVE
HANDLED, OF THE WORD OF LIFE; 2. (For the life was manifested, and we have seen it, and bear witness, and shew unto you
1 John 1:1.

that eternal life, which was with the Father, and was manifested unto us;) 3. That which we have seen and heard declare we unto you, that ye also
may have fellowship with us: and truly OUR FELLOWSHIP IS WITH THE FATHER, AND WITH HIS SON JESUS CHRIST.

Some have asked where did Jesus specifically say "I AM GOD"...Ok, consider, If you ask me are you
the preacher i might say yea "i am he"; that is just a generic reference that could apply to anything
....HOWEVER, Jesus is making a specific reference and laying claim to where GOD claimed to be "I
AM HE".....It was no different then if you ask me right now are you God? and i responded with "I AM
HE" that would be same as me saying I AM GOD......the reference Jesus uses is a specific reference to
being God......When Christ lays claim to I AM HE it is the same as if you asked me are you God and i
say " I AM HE" ..that is a specific claim to being God....!?!

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The servant that would be sent would be the same person that was sending that servant by sending Gods
own right arm to do The work God wants done (put your right hand into a leather glove to do some
work) The big difference is that right arm/hand goes from solely existing in the spiritual universe and
comes into the physical universe (made flesh) .
ONE & THE SAME PERSON HOW MUCH MORE CLEAR COULD HE HAVE STATED IT!?!?
Trinitarians ignore 70 percent of the scriptures with specific references to his single person and nature
expressed parts in favor of relegating that to "figures of speech and rely instead upon obscure inferences
that do not demand additional person but "could be" if that is all you had to go on...Our God is not being
deceitful but Trinitarinas do not understand why our God would leave it such a "could go/ see it, either
way" issue...........1Kings 22:22; Isaiah 66:4; 2 thess 2:11....
It matters not how exactly how a omnipresent God is able to describe himself in and with
Anthropomorphic terms and or concepts The fact it He does and in the very context of the creation that
was made in his own image. So our faith either rest in that to be understood just as one man is made in
the image of God or in rejection of that and instead in favor of some other invented nature and chalk up
all the contradictions and inconsistencies to a grand incomprehensible magnificent nature of God
created in the image of mens imaginations.
This leaves everyone with the question who or what the church should rely on, the creeds from Rome
or should we learn in us not to think of men beyond what is written (in the scriptures) and rely and
what the scriptures themselves say about the father, son and holy spirit? Trinitarians are doing nothing
but playing ignorant, blaming the ignorance and irrationality on humility in spite of what God clearly
stated and wanted you to know about himself. That is a sure path to a just reward of eternal torment.
All constructs on the nature of God will end with limits to our ability to fully understand. There comes a
point to which understanding can go no further back. This is to say we are not outside of God looking
down on Gods nature. ..However, the difference is in one rest with what God explicitly said which is He
is one alone, and interprets everything to be understood in and with that (Which can very easily be done)
..verses.well although he did not say it explicitly we shall use what we consider His
implicit statements to interpret 180degrees of the explicit ones with: what He really means is He is
three in one.
A godhead with three different persons in it is not a god it is a freak show of pagan origins in
ritualistic bragging rights. The pagans dearly love the monsters in their heads they worship as gods
and want you to worship and pay homage to them also. The worship of three different persons who are
each God is polytheism with different wrapping paper and a bow on top. Trinitarians are nothing more
then pagans who have attempted and continue successfully to co-opt Christ for their own lies and
wicked purposes. However, in fact they only preach another Jesus and another gospel (2Cor 11:4).
They are polytheistic pagans who masquerade as Christians and point to the fact that they have so many
adherents as evidence that they are with the true church and have the true doctrine. It is quite cleaver if
you think about it. The devil gets such a large number of his own followers to call themselves Christians
that their numbers exceed the actual membership of the true Christians and in so doing confuse if
possible even some of the elect of the true church. Thus, one might be wise to remember that when
considering orthodoxy.
Trinitarins want to worship one God but they need three different god persons to make all their
troubles disappear, (if they were able to digest the son as the same person as the father, there would be
no heretical doctrine called trinity) but they cannot perceive the God of the bible and can only see a
god of their own making and think the logical, coherent, and consistent way to describe this one god
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of theirs is by calling three different persons one god (like a family in China who would try to claim
that their three different children are one child so as not to conflict with Chinas one Child policy)
I suppose they (trinitarians) should expect to hear well done thy good and faithful servant enter into
the joys of thy lord, ..as they are cast headlong into the lake of eternal fire and damnation. With
their Lord Satan! YOU FOOLS!?
What Trinitarians want to leave you with is a denial that Jesus is the part (the right arm) of God, no sir,
you cant take that literally (never mind that is exactly the way or how God himself explains it) you
should know that is not what God was describing and intended for us to understandThe fact
is, they would say is that description is modalism (or some other ism) and that is a well known
heresy decided long long ago according to numerous church councils . Instead you must
listen to us (the god is three different persons folks) who describe God and son using terms and concepts
not found anywhere in scripture and present a incomprehensible being. The justification for ignoring
God and going with their own vain ideas of a incompressible being and or god head is that.
Well, God is so great you know .
Finally, take careful note of the contrast between a mere fool and the man described in this verse,
Prov 26:12. Seest thou a man WISE IN HIS OWN CONCEIT? there is more HOPE OF A fool
THAN OF HIM.
While they (the trinitarians) will denounce this description of Father son and holy spirit as the heresy of
Modalism, (they also called Sabellianism) the undeniable fact is that God in the scriptures Himself uses
the very term and states verbatim that God was going to send his own right arm to come save man ..
which is Modalism!?!?! God sending parts of himself in different ways, that is the doctrine of
ONENESS!?!? The Trinitarians make God the heretic and their denials of this fact is no different
then a whore who would denounce prostitution as evil and a work of darkness and then turn right around
and describe what she does I confess as It is not prostitution but rather spreading love and comfort
to all who need it most (Ad nauseam) They actually brag that they are so pious for denouncing this
false doctrine of Modalism, Sabellianism et al !?!.
Now go back and look at the verse mentioned and take careful note of the fact that in Prov 26:12 these
people are WORSE OFF then just a mere fool.fools have MORE HOPE then those people..Thus,
those of you who follow these Trinitarian text book exemplars of Prov 26:12 congratulations youre
a step ahead promoted above FOOLS which is not much of a promotion is it?!?.......Get ready
for itYour damnation is just and coming soon to a day and an hour near you

MEMORABLE QUOTES:
The Christian position is always and inevitably Trinitarian. Christian worship must be Trinitarian if it is true worship
M. Lloyd-Jones
Proverbs 8:5 - O ye simple, understand wisdom: and, YE FOOLS, BE YE OF AN UNDERSTANDING HEART.

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Isaiah 5:20. Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; THAT PUT DARKNESS FOR LIGHT, AND LIGHT FOR
DARKNESS; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter! 21. Woe unto THEM THAT ARE WISE IN THEIR OWN
EYES, and prudent in their own sight!

1Tim 4:1..giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils; 2. SPEAKING LIES IN HYPOCRISY; having their
conscience seared with a hot iron;
Col 2:8. Beware lest any man SPOIL YOU THROUGH PHILOSOPHY and vain DECEIT, AFTER THE TRADITION
OF MEN, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ. 9. For IN HIM DWELLETH ALL THE FULNESS OF
THE GODHEAD BODILY

2Thess 2:11. And for this cause GOD SHALL SEND THEM STRONG DELUSION, that they should believe a lie: 12.
That THEY ALL MIGHT BE DAMNED WHO BELIEVED NOT THE TRUTH, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.
2Tim 4:3. For the time will come when THEY WILL NOT ENDURE SOUND DOCTRINE; but after their own lusts
shall they HEAP TO THEMSELVES TEACHERS, having itching ears; 4. And they shall turn away their ears from the
truth, and SHALL BE TURNED UNTO FABLES.
All things are three, and thrice is all: and let us use this number in the worship of the gods; for, as the Pythagoreans say,
everything and all things are bounded by threes, for the end, the middle and the beginning have this number in
everything, and these compose the number of the Trinity (Aristotle, Fourth Century B.C. quote taken from: Arthur
Weigall, Paganism in Our Christianity, 1928, pp. 197-198)
It is generally, although erroneously, supposed that the doctrine of the Trinity is of Christian origin. Nearly every nation
of antiquity possessed a similar doctrine. [The early Catholic theologian] St. Jerome testifies unequivocally, All the
ancient nations believed in the Trinity (Marie Sinclair, Countess of Caithness, Old Truths in a New Light, 1876 p. 382).
1 Cor 1:19. For it is written, I will destroy the wisdom of the wise, and will bring to nothing the understanding of the
prudent. 20. Where is the wise? where is the scribe? where is the disputer of this world? hath not God made foolish the
wisdom of this world? 21. For after that in the wisdom of God the world by wisdom knew not God, it pleased God by the
foolishness of preaching to save them that believe.
2Tim 3: 5. Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away...7. Ever learning, and never
able to come to the knowledge of the truth.

"Those who are clever, who have a Brain, never understand anything" ~ Winnie the Pooh

USEFULL TERMS

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ORTHODOXY According to orthodox. Dictionary.com. Online Etymology Dictionary.

Douglas Harper, Historian. The word orthodoxy is from Greek orthos which means
"right", "true", "straight" + doxa which means "opinion" or "belief" and the word is
related to dokein, "to think". Never the less the word orthodoxy is really just used as a
fancy word that means "conforming to the Christian faith as represented in the creeds of
the early Church". These creeds were determined by councils that voted on things so it
really represents most popular or majority of (your group) thinking when any
group refers to itself as being within or as the orthodoxy
MODALISM also called Sabellianism, is THE UNORTHODOX BELIEF that God is
one person who has revealed himself in three FORMS or MODES in contrast to
the Trinitarian doctrine where God is one being eternally existing in three persons.
http://www.theopedia.com/modalism
MODALISM teaches that the Heavenly Father, Resurrected Son and Holy Spirit
identified by the Trinity Doctrine are different modes OR ASPECTS of the One God, as
perceived by the believer, rather than three coeternal persons within the Godhead.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sabellianism
ASPECT is a term used across several religions and in theology to describe a
particular manifestation or conception of a deity or other divine being.
Depending the religion, these might to disjoint OR overlapping PARTS,
or METHODS of perceiving or conceptualizing the deity in a particular
context. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aspect_(religion)
That fact that a anthrophomorphism is used to describe the PARTS of the deity
that is manifested does not invalidate it as being modalistic!?!..........it is that
simple .....God sending or manifesting three different PARTS of himself is
modalism by definition.....Those three different PARTS that God manifest can be
(1) anthrophomorphism(s)
(2) any other number of qualities/ aspects of God (love, wisdom et al) .
GOD HIMSELF describes his nature and what was sent and manifest of himself to man
in MOADLISTIC terms concepts of PARTS of himself NOT different persons......

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ANTHROPOMORPHISM is the attribution of human characteristics and qualities to

non-human beings, objects, natural, or supernatural phenomena. God, animals,
the forces of nature, and unseen or unknown authors of chance are frequent
subjects of anthropomorphosis. The term comes from two Greek words,
(anthrpos), meaning "HUMAN," and (morph), meaning
"SHAPE" or "FORM." The suffix "-ism" originates from the morpheme "isma" in the Greek language.
http://www.newworldencyclopedia.org/entry/Anthropomorphism
Anthropomorphic adjective
1. OF or RELATING TO ANTHROPOMORPHISM
2. RESEMBLING THE HUMAN FORM
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/anthropomorphic?s=t

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