QUESTION ANSWER SESSION

WITH HIS HOLINESS RIAZ AHMED GOHAR

SHAHI
(KARACHI- PAKISTAN)

Ayud Billahi Mina-shaitan Nal-Rajeem.

I seek refuge and protection in Allah from Satan, the accursed
Bismi Allahi alrrahmani alrraheemi.
In the name of Allah, the Most Gracious, the Most Merciful

Beloved companions! Thousands of sermons have been

delivered earlier all around Pakistan, in the city of Karachi, even in
foreign countries. Almost everybody might know about these sermons.
Some conspirators are doing false propaganda while some are
propagating our message positively. So in my opinion, rather than
delivering another speech its better people may ask questions which
they have in their hearts. For this I invite audiences to ask
me freely whatever they have in hearts.

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Question: While Allah has many names but you only talk about
zikr (chanting) of the Ism(word) Allah, what is the reason?
Answer: Allah has 99 names of which 98 are attributes (Sifaati
Isam) while one is His personal name. All
124,000 prophets had attributed names of Allah, but they all together
were unable to approach to the one (Prophet Muhammad PBUH) who
was having personal name. Attributed names, Suppose you do zikr
of Ya-Rehman (O Compassionate), you would only approach to His
mercy (Rehm), but He is the one who shows mercy even on animals. If
you do zikr of Ya-Razzaq (The Ever Providing), you would
approach only to His rizq (livelihood)…so what’s the big deal in it? He is
the One who provides food to an insect in a stone. Once you chant
personal name of Allah only then you will be able to approach the
essence of God.
Every prophet craved for Personal Name (Isam-e-
Zaat) because if vision (of Allah) is possible it’s only in Isam-e-
Zaat (Personal Name) and that is why they failed to have a vision (of
Allah) because they didn’t have Isam-e-Zaat. Only Prophet
Muhammad (PBUH) was granted Ism-e-Zaat and due to this He (PBUH)
had the Vision of God, by His (PBUH) grace that Isam-e-Zaat has
been granted to the Ummah which is cause of the greatness of this
Ummah. The only difference is that Isam-e-Zaat
cannot be started without the willingness of Allah had His beloved
Prophet. So people turn to chanting His attributes. All Sifaati
Isam (attributed names) are enveloped in Isam-e-Zaat (Personal
Name) and this is the reason we emphasize to learn personal name of
Allah (Isam-e-Zaat) bring within you, you feel personal love with Allah,
with His personal name. If failed, you may take any of the
Isam (attributed names).

Question: You say that Passionate Love for Allah is better

than worship while religious scholars incline people
towards worship and consider it greater in value. If Love
for Passionate Allah is greater (than worship) how it can be achieved?
Answer: Saint Sultan Bahu (RHT) says:
“Where Ishq (passionate love) takes over, faith is not aware.”
(Jithay Ishaq Pohuncha-way, Iman ko bhi Khabar Koi Na)
People who do worship are far behind, people of faith lead them. So,
he (Saint Sultan Bahu) says that even people of faith are unaware that

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what is Ishq (passionate love)? Love and Ishq (passionate love) are
different.
Now you chant Allah’s name, not orally because that even a parrot can
do, with your heart, and if your heart start chanting Allah’s
name, then your connection with Allah is through your heart. Anything
which comes in heart, love will happen with it. Similarly, if Allah
descends in heart, love for Him will also emerge. This is love; this is
not Ishq (passionate love). You chant Allah’s name…ten years, twelve
years…as long as you want and because of this you have love for
Allah. Even after losing all other loves except this one; but still this is
love, not Ishq (passionate love). A day will come then, the one will see
you whose name you chant. On that very day love will vanish and Ishq
(passionate love) will take place. So…if Allah looks at someone…and if
He looks at that person who worships Him (Allah) and if He (Allah) says
that you are mine, worship is of what use at this stage? Ishq
(passionate love) is not for everyone…it’s for whom Allah wills to
bestow.
Question: What is your original aim and mission?
Answer: Some people say whenever the era of politics arrives,
that these people will now enter into politics. But we curse such politics
in which you say something in the morning and deny it at night.
Neither we like such politics nor it is allowed in Deen (Religion). Some
people speculate that he is after Mehdiat and some say he is after
prophet hood. There will be no prophet after Prophet Muhammad
(PBUH) and we consider him infidel whoever claims so. As far as
opinion of Mehdiat is concerned, we believe that the one will be Mehdi
whom Allah selects for this honor and any self-declared Mehdi will
be humiliated and many of them have already been humiliated. This is
the secret I’ve learnt. Not only me, religious scholars from all over the
World, say that Mehdi has arrived. And we say that
as Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) had a Seal of Prophet hood (Moher-e-
Nabuwat) on His back, similarly whoever will have the seal of Mehdiat
on His back, we will accept Him as Mehdi. No matter whom he will be!
Question: You are facing an unrestrained opposition, don’t you have
any fears?
Answer: I do not even care. I move everywhere just like ever
before. Reason of that is I don’t want money from someone, Allah has
blessed me with so many things, and with land…I don’t need to bear
anybody’s opposition. If I do not indulge in politics why should I
tolerate anybody’s hostility? I want to be in complete silence…
completely separate. But…there is a heavenly voice which guides me

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to say this and that. I believe that He who ordered me is dominant over
everyone. Therefore, if nobody can harm me then why should I
be frightened?
Question: In recent days there was lot of talk about your meeting
with Prophet Isaa (AS), did you really met Him?
Answer: So many people claimed that we
meet Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) why these meetings were not
publicized against them, even though Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) is
superior to Prophet Isaa. Many people said that we also met Allah, why
this was not publicized against them. So, what if I named Prophet Isaa?
Definitely a meeting took place, I saw Him apparently but I don’t know
whether He was in His spiritual being or physical… I didn’t say whether
He was spiritually or physically. Even I am not sure yet…I don’t know
He was in spiritual or physical being. But if I happened to meet Him
again I will definitely check it. They (people) say that He (Prophet Isaa)
will descend on Ka’ba or Bait-ul-Muqadas. But I never said anything
about His arrival, I only said about meeting Him.

Question: We have heard that you give Zikr-e-Qalb even to Hindus,

Sikhs and Christian, even though they are not Muslims. How is it
possible that the hearts of non-Muslims can chant Allah’s name?
Answer: You tell me, when Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) came was there
any Muslim? These were the people at that time, He (PBUH) preached
to these people. He (PBUH) didn’t immediately ask them to recite
Kalima/Motto and offer prayers. First, He glanced on hearts of people,
when the name of Allah started within them they obliged to say there
is not god but Allah, Muhammad is His messenger (‫)ل الہٰ ال اللہ محمد الرسول اللہ‬.
Now we ask everybody, whether a sinner or a rigid infidel, to chant
Allah’s name by the rhythm of heart beat, this will not happen by our
command, this will start by the will of Allah, and the heart after having
Allah’s command starts chanting His name. He will become Muslim but
nothing else …if not today surly tomorrow (it will turn to
Allah). Sinner of today will be a pious of tomorrow…wouldn’t he. So,
whomever Allah wills, nobody can stay before him.
May they be Muslim May they be infidel, May they be alive May they be
deceased (Chey Muslim Chey Kafir, Che Zinda Che Murda)
To whom He wishes to, to whom He wishes to make His friend He can
make it and there are so many stories that rigid infidels and dacoits
became Wali when He put His glimpse on them…you talk about
becoming Muslim, they even became a Wali. No matter they are
infidels or sinners only those very hearts chant Allah’s name which will

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have to become Muslim and it is a recorded fact. Watch that video…
last year I gave them Zikr and next year they are reciting Kalima.
Actually, this is a method in which neither directly we teach them
about Quran nor about prayers, so we school/teach them about heart.
Then, gradually they turn to be vocal from heart.
Question: You stressed too much on purity of inner self, how can
we clean & purify our inner selves?
Answer: Inner self is very important. You Place here Hindu, Sikh,
Christian Muslim all in a row, ask Allah, "Which of them would you like
to see, which of them you will see?" He will neither look at beards nor
prostration. Allah looks at shining hearts. We say that if you do not
have a pure inner self, what is the difference between you and him?
Only difference is of tongue…isn’t it? Yes if your inner self is pure, only
then you are superior to him…otherwise your claim is only
verbal like parrot. And how the inner self can be purified? There
are two kind of worship; one is for apparent purification and the
other is for inner purification. Salat/Prayers and fasting cleans
the outer-self/apparent body, it is also necessary; but that which is
inside it’s also necessary to be purified. This is the reason until your
inner-self will not be purified no pure/unpolluted will
stay inside you. You recite Quran day and night, offer prayers but they
don’t reside within you because your Self is polluted.
This is the reason…if ever prayer and Quran reside within you then this
sectarianism is nothing (it will perish). Then
why should Muslims kill each others? All Momins are brothers; but you
are not a Momin. First you become Momin so that all of you can
become one. And for becoming one “your heart was the abode of
Allah” it’s also said according to a Hadith. You didn’t chant Allah Allah
by heart, thus Satan came and sat in it. Now until and unless you kick
the Satan out, your heart & nafs will never be purified. There is a
method for this. Like there is method for offering prayers and
observing fast, in the similar way there is method for Zikr-e-
Qalbi (Heart Meditation). Just like beads of this rosary in your hand
ticks, similarly you also have a rosary within you…it also keeps ticking.
This rosary (in hands) is for ordinary people. Bulleh Shah says:
“Bead of our heart chants Allah Allah”… You too teach the bead of your
heart to chat Allah Allah
Asaday dil da manka Allah Allah karda…Dil day manky nu Allah Allah
sikhana
That tick tick (heart beat) which is happening is rosary (tasbih) of the
heart. It chants Allah Allah more than 6000 times in an hour

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and can cross 125,000 times in 24 hours. So, if a heart which
is chanting Allah Allah 24 hours then Satan will not come into that
heart. Then Satan leaves and Rehman (beneficent) will enter. Then,
when chanting of Allah Allah starts with the rhythm of heart
beats, heartbeat is associated with blood then Allah Allah will merge
into blood. Allah Allah then travelling through blood goes into veins,
from veins it reaches into your souls. Then the souls wake up and start
chanting Allah Allah. Beyond this stage, though you sleep or busy in
work but souls will continue chanting Allah Allah and it will continue
after your death and even until the Day of Judgment.
Death is for body only, souls do not die…you were regular
in Salat/prayers, your Salat/Prayers will finish after you
die but Salat/prayers of souls will never finish they will continue
performing prayers until Day of Judgment. They will keep performing
what you have taught them in this lifetime. And there is a historical
confirmation for this. When Prophet Muhammad PBUH went onto the
heavens before ascending to heavens for
Mira’j, Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) led all the souls
of previous Prophets and walis in prayer. If you have such a capable
enough soul you may also get a chance to participate in that prayer.
That prayer had been offered from thousands of years and
will continue till the Day of Judgment.
Therefore, our aim is to purify the souls and heart within the bodies.
When you repeat Allah’s name by tongue your inner self should also
start doing so. You are a fake (from the outside/the body), the Real is
within you. You emphasis on fake so much rather than real, which are
for next life and wouldn’t die. They are reliant on you…chant Allah
Allah yourself and teach them as well. If you succeed in schooling
them, believe me, this will be a continuous charity (Sadaqah-e-Jariya)
for you until the Day of Judgment.
Question: Now a day, not only in Pakistan, it is well-known in aboard,
and some of my acquaintances living there told me, that Gohar Shahi
claimed to be Mehdi. Today as I got a chance to see you…would you
like to tell regarding this Mehdi matter?
Answer: I have clarified already that the One who will be Mehdi will
show something extra-ordinary…so much extra-ordinary that nobody
else would be able to do. Follower of every religion will be bound
to accept him. If anybody here in Pakistan claim to be Mehdi but
people in England, Europe or Palestine refuse to accept him he
wouldn’t be consider Mehdi. True Mehdi is the one who will be
accepted by people from every city, every country and every
religion. As far as our followers are concerned they says, go ask them

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that why they say so? Whenever I ask them that why they call me
Mahdi, do you want to involve me in some issue? They answer that we
got guidance from you so you are Mehdi for us. But this is not
Mehdi He is the one who will be recognized by whole world…and such
a Mehdi will be someone else.
Question: In so many speeches you talked about Shariat-e-Muhammadi
and Shariat-e-Ahmedi. Please shed some light that who are those
people who are blessed with this?
Answer: About Shariat-e-Muhammadi, the name
of Prophet Muhammad (PBUH)’s body was Muhammad while His soul is
called Ahmed. Name of His Spiritual body which is in the centre of
chest (The deeply hidden) was Hamid while name of His spiritual
entity ‘Ana (‫ ’)َانا‬in His head was Mahmood. Now, Shariat-e-Muhammadi
are acts which His body did while acts which His soul accomplished, is
called Shariat-e-Ahmadi. Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) went on Mira’j
with His physical body once while He visited with His souls many
times…this is Shariat-e-Ahmadi. His soul used to offer prayers even
before coming to this World. That is the reason why He said that “I was
a prophet prior to descending to this World”. He said that “I was a
prophet even when Adam wasn’t created”. He
(Prophet Muhammad (PBUH)) was given a bodily appearance later on
prior to this He was a prophet and what He did in this capacity is
Shariat-e-Ahmadi. Still His soul leads the prayer and doesn’t rise up
from the prostration until Allah responds…I am here O servant (Labaik
Ya Abdi). If your soul becomes capable for this you can also achieve
Shariat-e-Ahmadi.
Question: It is said that you say that there are 40 Chapters of Quran
rather than 30?
Answer: In Shariat-e-Muhammadi Quran is of 30 Chapters. One is
Shariat-e-Ahmadi that knowledge is something else. Abu Huraira (RA)
said to Companions about this that Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) passed
on two types of knowledge to me. ‘I told you about one, if ever I
tell anything about the second you would kill me’. This is an authentic
Hadith. Then what was that second knowledge? It was knowledge of
souls. Let me explain it further. This body is made of clay you have
to accept this; this body will die, will remain in this world, perish and
wouldn’t go to hereafter. We will be given such a body in the next
life that will neither burn nor die, become neither older nor
sick. If this body is limited to this world then it will not travel to the
next. So, what about its accountability, its journey? Isn’t it point to
ponder? This is like a house with seven residents. One of the residents
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people with these self/Nafs. At several places in the Quran it is said to
purify the Self and correct it…sometimes it is threatened, sometimes
avarice, sometimes it is warned of Hell and sometimes it is motivated
by Paradise…isn’t it so? But this is only for Self, what is next when it is
cleaned/purified? When a Self is cleaned/purified knowledge of Inner
Self/hidden knowledge start. Then first knowledge is of Heart. After
purification of the Self at that stage “that Book in which there is no
doubt’ (Zaalik-al-Kitab-u- La Rai-ba) not this book….that book in which
there is no doubt. On this book even a Hindu and infidel cast doubts
about it…don’t they distrust this Quran? On that book even an infidel
will not distrust. If an infidel purifies his Self even he wouldn’t distrust
that Book. At this step, it (Quran) has 30 existing parts and 10
others. There is a knowledge related to Qalb (Heart). Prophethood of
Heart…was bestowed upon Adam (AS). It was distributed evenly
between Him and His Walis. Beyond this stage is Soul (Rooh) and it’s
Book; it has separate chapters. Ibrahim (AS) was superior to Adam (AS)
due to addition of soul. Next was Musa (AS) and he was bestowed by
3 parts (Qlab, Rooh and sirri)…half for Him and half for His Walis…that
is why He was superior to Ibrahim (AS). Then came Issa (AS) got 4…
half for himself and half for His Walis…and placed higher than Musa
(AS). Finally, Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) received all 5 knowledges…
knowledge of the including Spiritual entity Akhffa that is why He is
greatest/superior of all. Therefore, one is Self and 5 are these spiritual
bodies. All together are 6 included in the knowledge. Knowledge of the
Self is in 30 parts while knowledge of remaining 5 is divided into
10 parts. Beyond this stage comes Ana (‫ )َانا‬which is seventh spiritual
body and is not related to knowledge but with passionate love. Go and
seek a spiritual teacher so that you will be able to pick this point that
there is apparent knowledge and hidden knowledge. We say that 30
parts are apparent while 10 are hidden, and there is evidence of
it. It can be verified from the books of Walis but Ulema disregard
it. Disregard this knowledge and at the same time quote this event of
Shah Shams Tabriz; When he put the books, and was asked, “What is
this?” He said, “This is that knowledge which you don’t know.” When
he took them out and was asked, “What is this? This is that knowledge
which you don’t know!” He was unaware of one kind of knowledge and
he said that this is the knowledge about which you do not know. This
was the reason If only Quran was enough then even Ghaus Pak (Abdul
Qadir Jalani) read the Quran, Khawaja Sahib also recited Quran…they
why they went into the jungles for which knowledge? Actually there
was found another kind of knowledge in Jungles. Here the knowledge is
taught by Maulvi(Scholar) and
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will be obvious difference between the teaching of Prophet Muhammad
PBUH and Maulvi(Scholar). Here one can become Alim or Scholar of
Ahadith while there one can be a Wali, sultan.

Question: I read one of your sayings on several sign boards that vision
of Allah is possible. Give some arguments?
Answer: Imam Abu-Hanifa wrote in his book that he had vision of Allah
99 times. Ibrahim bin Adham says that he had vision of Allah 70 times.
While Sakhi Sultan Bahu says that we can have vision of Allah
whenever we wish. Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) is a unique personality
among all. All others had vision through their souls
while Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) saw Allah through His body. There is
also a term Wali Allah…it means Friend of Allah. Friend is the one
whom we saw, or to whom we have talked…if anybody neither saw nor
talked to Allah and claim to be his friend…isn’t he a liar. If only false
claimant of Prophethood is an infidel for you than what you would call
a false claimant of Wilaya? He is on the brink of infidelity. Wilaya
requires a vision and revelation. The only difference is that woman can
only have revelation; they can’t have vision…that is why they are half
wali, as is Rabia Basri who was entitled as Half Qalandar. Other walis
have visions, conversation and if anybody claims to be a wali
without this, he is a liar.
Question: Your devotees call you Allah! What is the reality?
Answer: The reality is that many of non-devotees call me Satan…many
of them call me apostate, many call me as infidel…while other call me
Mehdi….many of them call me Isaa. It is based on how strong belief a
person has on me. You should ask them, I can’t say anything. I am a
Muslim, act according to the Quran, and it is written in it that ‘say that
Allah is one, He didn’t gave birth to anybody’. On the other hand I have
parents and sons. If they gave me titles, you must ask them, issue
fatwa against them.
Question: If a person dies shortly after having Zikr-e-Qalb from you,
then what about his remaining stages?
Answer: The first thing is that Zikr-e-Qalb can never be started at a
person's own will. We are only agents, the informers. We only
attach (spiritually guide) those with who are chosen by God. As long
as Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) does not verify, Allah never
approves. So, whoever has approval of heart (from the Prophet) his
death or life becomes meaningless and his journey of stages continues.
Because death is only for body, his inner self is alive. Such people have
the record like Shah Abdul Latif Bhitai…people used to call him sufi
poet, nobody got any benevolence from his Tomb but he continue his

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meditation. His journey was on. As soon as his inner
journey completed, people started receiving blessings from his tomb.
So stages of such people continue to accomplish.
Question: What is your opinion about photography is it not forbidden?
Answer: Some people regard it as forbidden while some see no
problem in it. Few Walis (Saints) even confused us. Where Allah has
confused then confusion from Walis doesn’t matter. Ala Hazart wrote
at one place that images are forbidden. But in his own era images of
Peer Mehar Ali Shah were widespread, why didn’t declare them
forbidden as well? Ala Hazart wrote in his Kinz-al-Iman that images of
all Prophets are in Taboot-e-Sakina…what should I say here? Now it is
up to you…consider it forbidden or not!
Question: If Imam Mehdi and Hazrat Issa (Prophet Jesus) have arrived
then why don’t you show them to the people?
Answer: People will see. I already mentioned their signs.

Question: If a zakir concentrate on his heart after zikr and see Noor in
place of heart, Ka’ba enveloped in this Noor and see inner creature
circumambulating the Ka’ba and within this condition, see Kalima
written in golden color on his heart and shining, would this stage be
called Ayn Al-Yaqeen (The eye of certainty)?

Answer: This is not Ayn Al-Yaqeen (The eye of certainty), but Haq Al-
Yaqeen(The truth of certainty). Because delusion do not happen
in Kalima, if there is Kalima, this Kalima is true…but if there is no
Kalima at all, it is Ayn Al-Yaqeen. If (you have) Kalima in heart it is
truth. Once Mujadid Alif Sani saw hidden creatures bowing down before
him in his experience, he was fretted and thought that this is not
permitted. But a heavenly voice consoled him that he may not worry
because these creatures are not bowing down before him rather they
are doing Sajda prostrating to the Ka’ba which is within him
(Mujadid). It happens to whom Allah wills… (This is not strange).

Question: Earlier you people preached about chanting Allah’s name.

You point of preaching was Zikr-e-Qalb. Then you turned to spirituality,
for some time you are propagating about Imam Mehdi, what is your
next objective? What you want? Are you intended to enter in politics?

Answer: I’ve already given a detailed answer about this.

Question: What is Unity of Being (Wahadat-al-Wujud) and Unity of

Appearance (Wahadat-al-Shuhud)?

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Answer: Nobody for Unity of Being present here. What should I tell?
Proponent of Unity of Being says that Allah is present in everything. He
claims that Allah is in every heart. While advocate for Unity of
Appearance holds that if Allah is in every heart then infidel are
also included in it. If so, what’s the purpose of Hell? If Allah is in
everything then Hell is for whom? Whoever has Noor of Allah will never
go to Hell! Supporters Unity of Being is those who chanted O
Compassionate (Ya-Rahman)…they always used to recite O
Compassionate or “O The Most Loving” (Ya-Wadood). With chanting O
Rahman they attained attributed Noor of Rahman within their heart …
they witnessed with their own eyes. They saw that a glimpse of
Rahman is also visible in animals, which is why animals love their
children. They said Allah is in everything. What about supporters of
Unity of Appearance? They recited Isam-e-Zaat, chanted Allah
Allah and by chanting this Noor of Allah came into their hearts. When
saw through the Noor of Allah they witnessed that the World barely has
any Noor, this Noor is only within few hearts. This is the difference in
opinion between proponents of Unity of Being and Unity of Appearance
and we are supporters of Unity of Appearance. The one who has Noor
of Allah within him that is Unity of Appearance and the one who is
deprived of it belongs to Unity of Being. Practitioner of Unity of Being
on his ascending journey halted at a stage…he couldn’t tread further
and said he only see a light was not able to see any “body” of Allah.
The one of Unity of Appearance had Ism-a-Zaat so he reached to the
Zaat (Personality). Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) shook hands with Him,
so he verified the Hadith that Allah has created Man on His own image.
So this is the clash between Unity of Being and Unity of Appearance.

Question: You had been held responsible for the death of a women of
Karachi at your monastery, is it true?

Answer: The first thing is that she came to my monastery and lots of
people visit us on regular basis. She was not accompanied with
anyone. Her son dropped her so she was alone. If we could kill her, we
could also bury her somewhere. We have our own land and vehicles,
we could have buried her somewhere or just throw her dead
body away. Why should we call her relatives and handover her to
them? There are some political people and some government agencies
who planned all this. Right now as there is negative propaganda, soon
there will be positive propaganda. This matter has been investigated
by crime branch. Then they say: we read in newspapers that she saw
something wrong happening that is why she was murdered. Brothers…

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if she was alone and saw something wrong then did she tell others in
their dreams? Told that I saw something wrong and got murdered?
These newspaper people just don’t feel ashamed. It reveals their lie…
did she tell them in dream?

Question: There is lot of talk about Imam Mehdi (AS) and Prophet Isaa
(AS), where is Dajjal? Tell something about him.

Answer: If I tell you now that Dajjal is that particular place, believe
me! A battle will break out immediately. Just wait for the appropriate
time. Whatever will be from Allah would be better. Dajjal is not far, he
is also near to Pakistan.

Question: You disclosed the mystery of Alif Laam Meem. Quran also
have other Huroof-e-Muqattaat, such as Alif Laam Raa, what is its
secret?

Answer: We can’t disclose right now.

Question: It is said about Sultan-al-Fuqra that either we call them God

or man, both are fine. How is it possible that a man can become God?

Answer: Actually the thing is that man has 7 spiritual entities (Lataif)
within himself which is for sure. If he becomes Wali through those
entities he couldn’t be called God. Allah bestows some Walis with
exclusive Anwaar which is called Jussa Taufiq-e-Elahi. While blessed
some people with Tifal-e-Noori. After this, apparently that person is not
human, and then He is Allah. For these kind of people Allah says that
he comes so much close to Me due to prayers that I become his hand
by which he holds, I become his tongue by which he speaks. This is
for those people. And there are some special people! Once Allah
thought to see that how does He look like? Just like you think to see
yourself in front of a mirror, how I am looking? Similarly Allah thought,
how I look like? So a reflection appeared before Him and it turned into
a soul. Allah fell in love with it and it fell in love with Allah. It was soul
of Prophet Muhammad (PBUH). Then Allah shudder Himself again with
joy and seven more souls created. These were souls of Sultans. When
these souls descended on earth Sakhi Sultan Bahu said…if you call
them God, it is not wrong. These are the very souls! You can study
Sultan Bahu’s booklet Roohi Sharif for further satisfaction.

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Question: Beg your pardon! Arab world is full with sins and you went
everywhere to invite for Zikr-e-Qalb. Why don’t you invite them for
zikr-e-qalb?

Answer: We go everywhere to spread this message, also went to Arabs

but Allah Allah only starts in heart for whom Allah wills. If He doesn’t
want for any heart we revert to them. Those who are chosen
by Allah’s will, we get encouragement and go again and again to them.

Question: Some people challenge us to throw ourselves into fire if we

are right. Should we do so or not? (Question by Zakir)

Answer: No! Deal with me only. Gather all the opponents and take me
to them. Look …all are my opponents; they have nothing to do with
you. Gather all of them and throw them and me into fire. Let’s see who
comes out unharmed. Bring all the
maulvis (Scholars) who issued fatwa (verdicts) against us…lit a fire and
throw them into fire put and me also.

Question: I start with a question which is has not been asked in this
gathering so far. It is related to your image on the moon. It is quite
famous and we heard from so many people. As we are looking you
today, definitely your looks evolved with the passage of time and it will
continue to change. But moon is the same forever. But you claim that
it has your image in it. But this image is since the beginning and will be
until the last day. So, what is the truth of this claim? It is true that the
moon will remain as it is from day first to the last.

Answer: I know that when the image appeared in it and how long it will
remain. Earlier people started to say that an image is visible in the
moon, and then I saw it. If ever this proved to be wrong my twenty
years of preaching would have been fruitless. Then I gave mine and
that image to be checked by computer, in the UK, in US. They all
verified and then I announced that this is my image. Why it is here and
who placed it…I have no knowledge. But I can assure this is mine. For
this, Moon appears every month and now it’s also there. Take my
picture and the picture of moon as well, you may verify. If you find it
false then question me. If it is true than just acknowledge its
existence…and if not there then trap us in it. I asked the government
many times to recognize it. I said that if it is false than it’s a great
scam and lie and why don’t you arrest me? And if it is true,
acknowledge it and tell people the truth. You have resources and this
matter is not new, for last 5, 6 years it has been hearing about this

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matter. So many fingers have been pointing on us for this reason,
cases have been launched and people are labeling accusations on us. If
it would have been proven false, would these maulvis (Scholars)
spare us? Earlier they did not acknowledge and said this cannot
happen; now they recognize but say that this is not a proof of Wilaya.
Now they acknowledge and we are also waiting that someone comes
forward and investigate. If it is false give me any punishment you like
and if true acknowledge it…don’t show hypocrisy. Government
agencies may also present here and we conveyed our message
through every means. Through newspapers, through speeches and
today again I am asking the government to investigate.

Question: It is said that your workers of Anjuman Sarfroshan-e-Islam

need your permission to offer their prayers; if you permit they offer
otherwise they don’t. This is a matter between Allah and His servant,
so up till what extend it is right to take your
permission for obligatory prayers?

Answer: I never asked this to anybody. However I ask them to offer

prayers and do the zikr because it will raise your status. If you offer
regular prayers you will just be namazi for your lifetime and if only
do Zikr and do not offer prayer then you will remain Zakir for
lifetime. The Wilaya (Sainthood) will begin with composition of both.
We advise them again and again. And refuter of prayer is infidel
near us.

Question: Now when I arrived here I noticed that music is being played
here. Secondly, the word ‘O’ (Ya) is written with your name. According
to my knowledge and understanding word ‘O’ can only be used for
Allah and Prophet Muhammad (PBUH), though this is also wrong. But
why this word is being used with your name…if it is not with Umar
(RA), Ali (RA), Usman (RA) and Farooq (RA)! Why this is so?

Answer: Listen to me! It is with everyone’s name…O Ali, O Ghaus Al-

Madad. People call their peer/murshid with ‘O’(YA). And it is their
belief. There is nothing wrong with using ‘O’, it doesn’t imply infidelity.
That’s all.

Question: During meeting with Allah, Prophet’s (PBUH) saw the ring
which He previously gave to Hazart Ali. What is that mystery?

Answer: This is true. When I say such things people blame me that I
am favoring the Shias. But true always remains true (you cannot deny

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it). This was in our Ahadith…it was in Hadith-e-Muslim, Hadith-e-
Bukhari. Before it was Hadith-e-Muslim, Hadith-e-Bukhari but when
they refined and corrected the collection of Ahadith as Hadith-e-Sahih
Muslim, Hadith-e-Sahi Bukhari…they removed such traditions… It was
so…surely it was. There were traditions regarding this.
Question: What kind of battle will break out between Imam Mehdi and
Dajjal?
Answer: Only he can tell when the time will come! How can I say
anything?
Question: Who is at the seat of Qutab Madaar?
Answer: If ever anybody knows about Qutab Madaar his Wilaya will be
lost. We can only tell about Ghaus and he is in Ghamkol Sharif…
in Pakistan, Ghamkol Sharif, Kohat.
Question: Sarkar you said in the program at Nishtar Park that image of
Imam Mehdi has been shown to all Walis. Would you please tell some
names so that we may have company of them for some time?
Answer: Go there…Ghamkol Sharif. People in Europe may contact to
Shaikh Nazim and people in the US may go to Shaikh Hisham. These
persons know.
Question: Those 40 chapters are also written like Quran? Did you read
them? If yes, why don’t you dictate so that we can write them down?
Answers; Just as Torait, Zaboor and Injeel had been revealed in the
language of its Prophet, similarly are these 30 Paras. That knowledge is
in Suryani language. Prophets and walis are taught that knowledge in
the language they know. Quran is latest of them all…first Torait was
revealed then Zaboor and then Injeel. The knowledge Adam had was in
Suryani language. The knowledge of the inner self is in Suryani
language and still exists. Wali is taught that knowledge in his own
language, the tafseer (datail) of that knowledge is taught to him. If he
is taught in Suryani than first he will need to learn Suryani and then
tasfeer…after that he wil have tol teach Suryani to others. That is why
he is taught in his language…that is tafseer…this is their knowledge!
Khizar…there is a story about him in the Quran…the knowledge
Musa (AS) had was different from theknowledge which Khizar had. And
any knowledge which came from from Allah, if it came through
revelation, it is considered Hadith-e-Qudasi. If Jibra-il accompanied the
revelation it is called Quran. This knowledge also came through
revelation accompanied Jibra-il/Gabriel thus it is also called Quran.

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Question: Some people say that the name of Imam Mehdi’s father will
be Abdullah and mother’s Amina. And he’ll stammer. Is it true?

Answer: When he’ll come, ask him what his father’s name is? As soon
as he comes, he will declare that I’m Imam Mahdi. Ask everything from
Him. Why from me? Ask him whatever comes to your mind; after all,
I’ve not announced any thing.

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Now, let me tell you about Zikr. Some people will be new; though some
people are Muslims, yet don’t offer their prayers, even don’t do zikr
(chanting name of God). Those people are like animals. Animals snooze
after performing assigned acts. They slept, too, after doing worldly
jobs. There are some people though offer their prayers, yet don’t zikr
(chanting name of God); and there are some who zikr (chanting name
of God) but don’t offer Salat/prayers. But the people who do zikr
(chanting name of God) are better than pervious condition when
they don’t do anything at all. Blessed are they, they have started
making mention; though not offer their prayers. But they are
better than their previous condition. By doing this, their hearts will be
filled with Allah’s love; and this Love will become be a source of their
intercession. And it may happen that due to this commemoration, they
will start offering prayers; this way their heart will be decontaminated,
and tongue purified. That prayer/Salat will be real Salat/prayer; for
this it needs neither Bait nor Gift and oblations to be paid. We’re not
concerned whose disciple’s you are; we wish that instead this outer
rosary, your inner should start counting the true rosary. As this tick,
tick is continuing outside; the same is happening inside. As soon as,
this Tick, Tick starts resonating Allah, Allah; then this Allah, Allah will
be penetrated deep into your blood. Traveling from blood to veins and
then from veins to your souls --- your Souls will awake up and start
chanting Allah, Allah, too. Now when you offer the prayer, there is a
contradiction whatever is in your heart and what is on tongue; what
appears on tongue, is not in the heart; and what is in the heart,
does not come on the tongue. Once, Hazrat Abubaker Siddique (RA)
asked The Holy Prophet (PBUH), “Whenever I offer my prayers, I feel
temptations”. The Holy Prophet (PBUH) said, “You are getting two
types of Reward; one for offering prayers and the other for ‘Jihad’. How
is that? During chanting of Allah, Allah within you; the devil put
temptations in your heart; this Allah, Allah throws them out.

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Temptations come again; again this Allah, Allah throws them out;
this way a battle starts inside. This is called “Jihad”. If there’ll be no
Allah inside, these temptations dwell permanently. This means, your
heart will get along with the devil. This is called “Namaz Surat” there is
no trust of ‘hollow’ prayers; and these prayers will be thrown back to
your face in the Day of Judgment. When Allah, Allah will be started
deep in your heart; then, even you will be busy in your work, you will
try to continue chanting this Allah, Allah. You will be succeeded this
way. You’ll try again that I should keep on reading a book or a
magazine or even driving a car and this Allah, Allah should also
continue. You will get the success. Then, you will wish that I should
continue my prayer/salat --- and this Allah, Allah should also be
continued. That time, the heart will say what your tongue is saying.
The tongue will say, “QUL HO WALLA HO AA’HAD” (Allah is Alone); the
heart will witness saying Allah, Allah. The Allah and only Allah. . Now,
all the temptations have been thrown out. Verbal worship does not go
up to Allah. This heart is like a telephone within you. This heart is a
telephone between you and Allah. The Satan is setting in it; then how
your prayer should go up? When Allah, Allah comes in heart, the
Satan will leave. It will be filled with Divine Light; as there is electricity
in the telephone then it starts working, if there’ll be Divine Light in the
heart; it will work. As with the waves of electricity you talk from here
to America; the Divine Light in heart connects you with the Throne of
God. That time when you offer your prayer, the telephone of Divine
Light will take it up. That prayer is The Ladder of a Believer. As you
talk, it will go up. Why do people visit saints? They could beseech at
home. The same Allah is there at saints’ places. Telephones
are installed there when they talk it go up; and this way, you’re
bestowed --- your work is gets done. So you can also install this
telephone as it is for all. The people who had such telephones in their
hearts, they never call themselves to be a Sunni, Wahabbi, or Shi’a.
They only say I am your follower O’Prophet Muhammad PBUH. When
this telephone – the Divine Light – went away, 72 sects came into
existence. Now government says sects should be wiped out. How it can
be finished? Satans are penetrated deep in the hearts. Apparently,
they have long beards and big Mehraab (sign of prayers on forehead);
but Satan in hearts. Satan does not let then get united. He makes
husband and wife and Molvi (Scholar) with Molvi (Scholar) quarrel, for
nothing. Until Satan will not exit from your heart, and the Satan will
leave when the Divine Light will come in your heart. When
your hearts are filled with this Light, you’ll all become Momin (one who
contain noor). Noori relationships will be established, as there are
blood relationships of brother and sister. Thereafter it will become

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noori relation. That time you will become brothers; before this
you cannot become brothers. When this Allah, Allah starts in the heart,
then whatever comes in your heart, love happens with that thing.
When Allah comes in your heart, love with Allah will start.
When love of Allah will come in your heart, then Allah will love you; and
whom Allah loves, cares them. Then they do not get betray; and those
are the people whom Allah wants to keep on the right path. Now, if
someone wants to get permission for commemoration; say Allah Allah
with my voice, the permission will be granted. Carry on practice, if
Allah, Allah starts in your heart, pray for me; if do not feel so, you go
your way we go ours. There is another method, when you go to sleep
at night; think your finger a pen and write the word Allah on your heart
in imagination. While writing call for your Spiritual Guide and imagine
as he is holding your finger and writing Allah on your heart with your
finger. They have immense spiritual powers. If you do not have any
Spiritual Guide, think of any tomb you are familiar with, and imagine
that that pious man is writing Allah on your heart. They do so. Even if
you do not go in any tomb, then think of the “Roza Mubarak” Tomb of
The Holy Prophet (PBUH), and from that place word “Allah” is
being written on your heart. At that moment whoever comes infront of
you; consider that your destiny is in His hands. Go to sleep
while reciting and writing this. When you get up at the crack of dawn
don’t bother whether you are with ablutions or not; the ablution of
heart cannot be performed with water. Keep doing hidden
chanting; hidden chanting every one can do as it is not a big deal. Of
and on, feel and keep your hand on your heart beats; when you
feel your heart beats, try to chant Allah with it. And the day when your
heart beat call Allah; consider that Allah has accepted you today. Then
do any such act which makes your heart beat fast whether it is an
exercise or fast running; when your heartbeat become
prominent, match Allah Allah with it. If you continue this practice for
few days, your heartbeats will be changed into Allah Allah. Sometimes
while you are sitting free; feel your pulse and synchronize the word
Allah, Allah with this tick, tick and feel that Allah is penetrating into
your heart. God helps those who help themselves. And whom Allah
wishes, a small act of virtue is enough for him. And whom Allah does
not wish to bestow; he will say that 10 even 20 years gone, my heart
meditation (Zikr-e-qalb) did not start. It is the secret of knowing
oneself. That who are you? How much Allah is kind to you? This is the
only touchstone; except this, there is no any other touchstone. If you
feel warmth with this commemoration, start reciting Darood
Sharif “benediction”; it will cool it down. Then you’ll see that when you
chant Allah, Allah it will bring warmth to you; then the reciting of

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Darood Sharif will make it cool. One day, both Darood sharif and
Allah will be intermingled, neither cold nor warmth. After this your
heart says Allah, Allah and if you still keep on doing evil deeds, then
hurdles will come into the way of your vehicle. With this if you do good
deeds --- offer prayers and keep fasts; then your vehicle will reach fast
to Allah………………………. Allah!

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