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The following Windows tutorial will get Traktor and Ableton all synced up and
implement the concept of smart mixing into your set up. Some of you may be
thinking, What is smart mixing? This is a good Question, and the Belvario Smart
Mixer site answers it well. Smart mixing is a term introduced by Moldover, a
controllerist digital musician who uses a sophisticated software and hardware
configuration that allows him to make fast changes to the mix with a minimum of

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control movement. One component of this is his smart mixer Reaktor ensemble,
which makes it easy to do basic automated EQ mixing with a simple fader move in
Ableton Live (in Live 7 its possible to do with only native audio effects).
This Tutorial is For windows users. There is a Mac version here.
You will learn how to:

1)RouteAudioFromTraktorandintoanAbletonLivesmartmixer.
2)SyncAbletonsMidiclocktoTraktorwhichwillbehostingthemastertempo
3)Allowinguseofamidicontrollerintwoprogramsatonce.

You will need:

1)MidiOX(free)
2)MidiYokeJunction(free)

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3)Asio4all(free)

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4)VirtualAudioCable(notfree)Ifyoufindafreealternativepleaseleaveacomment.
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steps that involve internal audio routing. Also do not use virtual audio cable or asio4all,
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simpler to use. After you have the hang of this you can use some of Moldovers effects
in your effects chain, or change over to Moldover smart mixing if you prefer that.
Both sets of files have an Ableton live file that you can open to help make setting up
smart mixing easier.

Step 1: Setting up Virtual Audio Cable

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After installing the software mentioned above and rebooting your computer, The
first thing we need to do is create two virtual audio in/out sets of cables that will
enable Traktor to export its Audio to Ableton Live. You will need to open the Virtual
Audio Cable Control Panel to do this. Change the set of cables to 2 sets(top left of
control panel) it should then look something like this :
Note: The more decks you want to work with the more sets of cables you will need, 1
set = 1 deck, 2 sets = 2 decks and so on. Here we are setting up two decks but this is
easily scales to 3 or 4 decks.

Step 2: Setting up Midi-OX.

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Windows does not normally allow two programs to access the same midi
controller at the same time, so we will need to get around this by creating two virtual
midi devices that export the data from your midi device. To do this we open Midi-OX
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and click Options then in the drop down list select midi devices, In the Midi Inputs box
you need to select your midi device, then in the outputs box select midi Yoke 1 and
midi Yoke 2 as shown above.

Step 3:Setting up Traktor

Open Traktor, Click File then Audio Setup. Set your Audio Device to ASIO4ALL. Next
click Control Panel, click advanced to enable more options in the asio4all panel. You
will need to disable all other audio devices besides Virtual Audio Cable signal outs.
The more decks you want to work with the more Virtual Cables you will select here,
one cable for each deck. In this instance we are using two decks as shown above
Next we need to route the decks to their respective Virtual Audio cables, exit the
Asio4all panel after setting it up as shown above. Now on the left hand menu in the
Traktor settings menu click Output routing as we will be mixing externally in Ableton
the first thing you need to do is select external mixing mode. Now you need to tell
Trakor which Virtual Audio cables to use on which deck, adjust with your settings so
they look like whats shown below:
Note: The more decks you wish to use the more Virtual Cables you will have to select
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Traktor will be hosting the master tempo so we have to set the midi clock up to a
midi pathway Ableton can access. Expand the menu and select Midi Clock, set the
midi interface to Out To MIDI Yoke 3. Make sure to tick the send midi clock box as
shown here. Once you have completed this tutorial you can come back and tweak the
midi clock delay to get everything perfectly on time.

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Now its time to select the midi device Traktor is going to use, on the preferences
menu expand the Hotkey and Midi setup menu, then select Midi Interfaces from the
Menu. Next set midi yoke 1 on just the in as shown below:

Step 4: Setting up Ableton Live

Open Ableton Live then open the Belvario or Moldovers Ableton Live file. Make
sure you put it into your Ableton VST directory and enable VST support in Ableton file
settings menu like shown:
Click options on the Ableton Live menu, then preferences. You need to select the
driver type to Asio, then the audio device to Asio4all. Click hardware config and set up
your Asio Panel as shown in the diagram below. Once again the more Decks you want
to have control of the more Virtual Cables Ins you need to select, for every one deck
you need one virtual cable in activated. You also need to enable your main audio
device this time, in my case this is the Sigmatel out which is the chipset on my laptop.
If you have a sound card with two outs, you should enable both of these outs to allow
monitoring in Ableton live. I only have a single channel out from my laptop at this
time, this is why only one is showing and activated.

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Ableton needs to know what audio ports you want it want to work with so click the
Input config button on the Audio config screen. In my case Virtual Audio Cable routed
my audio to Stereo 9/10 for Deck A and Stereo 1/2 for Deck B, strange outputs but at
least the program is functional ;) You might want to turn all the inputs on to start with
to work out which cable is which, then disable the unused cables when you work out
which cables are been used by Traktor. In the end it will end up looking something
like this :

Now click Output Config, if you want to do your mixing externally on a mixer you
will need to select one stereo channel for each deck you want to route. If your mixing
with midi controllers you will need 2 stereo outputs enabled, one for your mix and
the other for monitoring. I personally only have a single stereo channel sound card so
i only have the one output enabled as shown :

The midi interfaces that Ableton will be using has to be set up next. Click Midi Sync
on the Ableton menu then select Midi Yoke 2 and 3s Track, Sync and Remote all to
on. As shown here:

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Now close the Ableton setup window and enable external sync by clicking the EXT
button on the top left of the Ableton Live main window as shown below:

Change the inputs for the first two tracks in either the Moldover setup or the Belvario
setup. Click the IO button to configure the inputs and outputs in your Ableton
channels(circled in the picture), then change the inputs as shown in the rectangle.

You have now successfully set up from beginning to end the very basics of a synced
smart mixer setup from Traktor to Ableton. I suggest assigning midi controls on your
device for your EQs to control the sends on the Belvario smart mixer, or alternatively
assign them to the smart mixer in the reaktor5 ensemble.
Personalize your mix by adding in VSTs and assigning them how you like, its also
possible to add extra audio channels and add sampled(or your own content) to these
tracks and have these channels smart mixed. This is only scratching the surface the
possibilities are endless, all thats left for you to do is explore them.

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Safa2 3yearsago

Heyguys,Ihadalotofhelpwiththistutorial,butasotherssaid,VirtualAudioCable
(VAC)isnotthemoststable(anditcostsmoney).Ihavefiguredoutawaytosync
TraktorandAbletonbasedonthistutorialbutalittledifferent,withaMidiController
internalsoundcardwith2stereooutputs.
FYIthisworksonalaptoprunningwindows7andusingaNumarkMixtrackpro.
IamjuststartingwithDJingandittookmeashitloadoftimetogetthisright(2025
hourso.0)butIdonotknowmuchofwhatIdidheresodonotaskmewhatworksfor
youspecificallybecauseIsimplydonotknow.
ItstillrequiresAsio4allandMidiOXbutinsteadofVAC,IuseJACKasoneuserhere
suggested.
Thestepsare:
installasio4allasusual,
installmidioxandsetitupasdescribedinthistutorial.
InstallJACKandfollowinstructionsonthiswebsite
CAREFULLY:http://jackaudio.org/jack_on_w...(note:aftertheinitialinstallitwantedto
installMicrosoftVirtualBasic2003orsomething,thisisNOTnecessarywiththe
seemore

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Gowstpop>Safa2 2yearsago

haveyoubeenabletoportyourtraktorcueintoabletonandbacktoyour
micktrackheadphoneport?or

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Spencer"Thunderball"Thayer 4yearsago

Iwishtherewasabettersolutionthanthis.I'vegottenthistoworkbutfindit'sso
cumbersome,unreliableandlaggythatit'snotlivegigworthy.It'sfuntomesswithbut
ultimatelyjustisn'tasolution.COMEONNativeInstruments!JustmakeTraktora
ReWiteSlave!EveryoneonDJTechtoolsandamillionotherswantthisfeature.
Acceptitandmoveon.
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G1nner 4yearsago

ItotallyagreeThunderballNItechsupportareawasteoftime.Theyclaimitisnot
possibletowriteasolutiontofixthisissuebecauseofwritngadriverforWindows
basedsystemsisnotpermitted.Ifyouasktheyarejustnotuptothejobandrely
heavilyontheusersonforumstoidentifyproblemsandsharesolutionsonfixing
these!It'sstillthesameifyouspeaktoAbletonSupport,they'renobettereither!!!
BentoSan'stutorialaboveworksokafterahugeamountoffiddlingaroundwithseveral
piecesofthirdpartysoftwareandafterallthatthenyoustillhavetweakTraktorand
Abletontobotchitalltogetheranditreallyisbotch!
It'sunstable,notjustforbothTraktor&Ableton,butalsoforWindowstoo,asitpretty
muchrendersanyotheraudiosetupunusable!
Thismethodmayworkokforshortsessionsathomebutthere'snowayitisfitforlive
prouse,sodoitatyourperil.
Italsodoesn'tworkforrecording.OnceyouadjustthetiminginAbletontomakein
'sound'insync,inrealtimerecordingduringplaybackitsatotalmessandagain,I'm
sadtosayunworkable.
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sadtosayunworkable.

SocomeonNI&Abletonbangyourheadstogether,dealwiththeissueasit'sbeen
longoverdueforyoutodosomethingaboutit.Unlessyou'resimplynotuptothetask?
Anyoneknowanydeveloperswhowanttotakethison?andputNI&Abletonto
shame!!!!!!
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masix 4yearsago

Hello!
thanksforthisgreattutorial!igotitallworkingatthefirsttrybutirunintooneproblem
here.
Imusingtheaudio8djonawindowssystemandanexternal4channelmixer.My
problemisthaticanonlychooseoneoutputchannelinabletonlive,soall4traktor
channelsgotoonechannelonmyexternalmixer:(isthereanyworkaround?icant
findanyinformationonthenet.
bestregards:)
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2WeaK 2monthsago

IuseJack(win864bit(andnoadministratorhacks+persistentpatchbay)madeit
portablewithabatchscriptforjunktionlinkngfoldersandregisteringdll's,in
combinationwithvbAudio(&hifi)Cable+AsioBridge(allfree),useCatia(from
kxstudioalsofree)toconnectitallonceandsavethejacksession(loadthesave
sessionpatchbayinjackctrlandsavetheprofile.andhavejackstartupinsystrayand
startwithwindows.asiobridgeusesjackaswell.http://vbaudio.pagespersoora...
(someexamplesofme:https://drive.google.com/open?...andihavearatheroldand
slowdesktop,delaytimesarenotnoticeblenotevenwhenwatchingflashmovie
(routedtrougheverything)feelfreetoaskanythin(spend3or4weeksfiguring
everythingout,soletsnotinventthewheeltwice),oneor2downloadsavailableon
mydriveaswell)

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emixeon 2yearsago

Jack(http://jackaudio.org/)isanicealternativetoVirtualAudioCable.:D

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gstAR66 2yearsago

aufdeutschbitte!!!

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Soroush 3yearsago

Youcandownload"VirtualAudioCableVer.4(full)"fromhere:
http://torrents.thepiratebay.s...
Goodlock!

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wycat 3yearsago

WouldthissetupalsoworkwithSeratoItch?

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Clost 3yearsago

Hieveryone!ImtryingtosyncTraktorPro&AbletonliveviaEthernet(2PCs,one
TraktoranotheroneAbleton),butihavingsomeproblemsandquestios,IhopeIcan
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getthesolutionsoonerbecausemybrainitsgannamakeboooom!welltostart:

Myproblem:

ImtryingtosyncTraktorProwithAbletonLive8viaEthernettryingtheprograms
Ethernetmidi(Free),rtpmidi(Free)andipmidi(trialfullfunsion),so,onanywayican
gettraktorintoableton,oneachprogramreconizeeachcomputer,butwhenitrytoset
upthemidionabletonortakealookwithmidioxwhatfrecuenzyofmidiirecieving
andjustigetthemidifromthesamecomputerIxplain:computer1(namedMidi1)
withtraktorintalledjustshowuponmidioxlikeMIDI1andodontshowuptheother
computerontheEthernetnamedMidi2,oncomputer2thesame,so,eachprogram
midiethernetprogramreconizetheothercomputerandconnectedbutwhenigotoset
upfromabletonorcheckonmidiox,idontgettheothercomputeronanyways(midi,
audioorwhatever).

Myquestion:
seemore

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Clost 3yearsago

Hieveryone!ImtryingtosyncTraktorPro&AbletonliveviaEthernet(2PCs,one
TraktoranotheroneAbleton),butihavingsomeproblemsandquestios,IhopeIcan
getthesolutionsoonerbecausemybrainitsgannamakeboooom!welltostart:
Myproblem:
ImtryingtosyncTraktorProwithAbletonLive8viaEthernettryingtheprograms
Ethernetmidi(Free),rtpmidi(Free)andipmidi(trialfullfunsion),so,onanywayican
gettraktorintoableton,oneachprogramreconizeeachcomputer,butwhenitrytoset
upthemidionabletonortakealookwithmidioxwhatfrecuenzyofmidiirecieving
andjustigetthemidifromthesamecomputerIxplain:computer1(namedMidi1)
withtraktorintalledjustshowuponmidioxlikeMIDI1andodontshowuptheother
computerontheEthernetnamedMidi2,oncomputer2thesame,so,eachprogram
midiethernetprogramreconizetheothercomputerandconnectedbutwhenigotoset
upfromabletonorcheckonmidiox,idontgettheothercomputeronanyways(midi,
audioorwhatever).
Myquestion:
OncasethenicangetthecomunicationbetweenTraktorandAbleton,ineedorican
dothesameconfigurationofSmartMixingimean,useasio4alltosendthesoundto
abletonandiuseabletonforclipsaneffects,usevirtualaudiocabletoseparateeach
deckfromtraktor,useMidiyoketocreateamidichannel(Ialreadyintalledanddosn't
workonmysetup),orineedmidioxtocontrolthemidisignal?
ormorefar,ineedanotherkingofconfiguration(hardwareorsoftware)?
Wellmainbrains,ihopesomeonecangivemeahandonthispleaseandtyforur
time.

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GrosBedo 3yearsago

I'vemadeatutorialtosyncAbletonLiveandMixMeister:
http://gbotools.blogspot.com/2...

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Rdesroches 3yearsago

Freevirtualaudiocablealternative:http://jackaudio.org/jack_on_w...
IthasaPCandaMacversion.

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M_r05 4yearsago

hallotoeveryone
whenitrytouse4outputatraktorcrash.whatcanidotofixit.ihaveapioneerddjt1.
traktorpro2
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traktorpro2

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M_r03>M_r05 4yearsago

alsointhemidiclockthereisnooptiontorouthittosomewherelikemidiyoki
3

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Radkoo2 4yearsago

VirtualAudioStreaming

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Radkoo2 4yearsago

Hi,WhyIdon'thaveinmidiox"usbaudiodevice"?
Ihaveininputsonly8Yoke.

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TrevorMauriceWilliams 4yearsago

k.HowdoIdothisonaMAC?

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ChristianK. 4yearsago

MidiYokeworksfineunderwindows764bit.Ijustinstalleditwithoutissue.
Forallthosemissingthemidiyokeinput/outputs,makesureyouhavetheright
programsinstalled.
MidiOXisthenameofwebsite,andthenameofaprogramthere,withdownloadlinks
directlyoffthehomepage.
MidiYokeisseparateprogram(driverreally),andyouneedtoclickonmidiyokeon
theleftnavbartogettothedownloadpageforthat.
WhenyouinstallMidiYoke,&reboot,bydefault,youshouldhave8virtualmidiyoke
in&out.Youcanchangethatinthecontrolpanelundermidiyoke.

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vidar 4yearsago

@Paul:DoyougetbetterresultswithMidiOx/Yoke?Ididn'ttrytoplay/syncclips
fromabletonwithtraktoryet,onlyusingabletonforsoundengineering,kindof,e.g.
compressionlikedescribedinthearticleabove.That'swhyI'mhappytohaveasetup
nowwherethesoundactuallyimprovesinsteadofgettingdistortedbyincontrollable
static(inducedbyagraphicscardthathappendtobeIRQsharingwithmyUSB
soundcardandbyAbletonsinadequateprocessscheduling).

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g1nner 4yearsago

HiBentosan,thistutorialwasagreathelptomethankstoyouIhavemyLive8&
Traktorallrunningtogethernow!Adonationisonit'sway.......
TherearejusttwootherissuesIhavenow,,,,,
1>IusetheAllen&HeathXone4Dmixerformidicontrolovermytraktorsoftware.
Sincefollowingyourtutorialthemidicontrolisdisabled.
2>Iwouldlovetohavevinylcontrolwheneverpossible(especiallyformixingin
acapellas)butagainthenewconfigurationwon'tallowmetohavetimecodedvinylor
cdsetup.
Canyouhelpmeoutheretoconfigurethistohavefullcontrolintraktor????

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Paul 4yearsago

Haventgetansolutionwithoutthemidiclockjumpingfrombetween125and130bpm.
AndthereisIthinknoworkaroundfortheproblemthatabletonwontlaunchtheclips
ontime...
Theonlythingimalbetodoaboutthatislaunchingasilentclipinableton@128bpm
intimewithtraktorandneverchangingthespeedonbothsystems...notrealya
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intimewithtraktorandneverchangingthespeedonbothsystems...notrealya
workaround...

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vidar 4yearsago

Milagro:sure,maybethepointspostedaboveandintheAbletonforumareinteresting
foryouaswell:http://forum.ableton.com/viewt....UsingtheJackSoundDaemon(the
MultiProcessorVersionjackdmp)withtheswitch"SXwinmme"allowsevenbasic
midisyncbetweenbothprograms,incaseyouwanttoexperimentmore.Ontheother
hand,ifyouonlywanttorecordyourtraktorsessions,Iguessthat'spossiblein
Traktoritself,thereevenaresomeyoutubevideosshowinghowtodothat.

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Milagro 4yearsago

CanIuseAbletonLivetorecordfromTraktor?

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Milagro 4yearsago

Willloopbe1(http://www.nerds.de/en/loopbe1...givemethesameresutls

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Milagro 4yearsago

IsthereasolutionforMidiYokeunderWindows764Bit?

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GeorgeLoukas 4yearsago

Hi,thanksforthearticle!I'vefollowedthemidiinstructionstoatT.I'mroutingTraktor
ScratchProto2channelsonmyexternalmixerandAbletonto1channelonthe
mixer.WhenIsyncthetoprogramsAbleton'sGlobalTempogoescrazy.Upand
downconstantly.Anyonehaveanyadvice?!Pleasefeelfreetopassitoninanemail.
ThankYou!George@loonamix.com

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GeorgeLoukas 4yearsago

Hi,thanksforthearticle!I'vefollowedthemidiinstructiontoaT.I'mroutingtraktorto2
channelsonmyexternalmixerandAbletonto1channelonthemixer.WhenIsync
thetoprogramsAbleton'sGlobalTempogoescrazy.Upanddownconstantly.
Anyonehaveanyadvice?!Pleasefeelfreetopassitoninanemail.ThankYou!
George@loonamix.com

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Milagro 4yearsago

BythewayIamusing:
AbletonLive8.0.4
Traktor1.2.4
Widows7Ultimate64bit

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Milagro 4yearsago

HelloIhavesomeproblemtryingtosetupMidiOX.
IhavesetupVirtualAudioCablecorrectly(http://www.tiikoni.com/tis/vie...
ButwhenIwhentrytosetupMidiOXYoke1and2arenotfound
(http://www.tiikoni.com/tis/vie...
AndIcannotfindwhereImustsetupmyMIDIinterfaceinTraktor

Thisarethescreenshotsof:
TracktorAdiohttp://www.tiikoni.com/tis/vie...
TracktorOutputMo.http://www.tiikoni.com/tis/vie...
Asiohttp://img576.imageshack.us/im...
Abeltonhttp://yfrog.com/2pabeltonmidi...

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C.Los 5yearsago

hi!recentlyifindthiswayforIcanusetraktorandabletonatthesametime,beforei
havethisconecctionbutwithNIAudio8,butthiswasonmycuntryandthisanother
history:),ifindthissiteandIdoeverythingtheysaytoconecttingtraktorwithableton,
Ihaveeverythingliketheinstructiononthispage,butIhaveaproblem,thesoundits
realyrealybad,soundadistortionorscrath,andidontknowwhy.evenibuya
externalaudiointerfaceforremplacemysoundcardontheconfigurationofableton
(everythinglikethewebsay,butonabletonitrytodontusethesoundcardofmy
laptopifnottheexternalaaudiointerfaceBehringeruca222),soIrealydon'tknow
fromwhereitstheproblemIhave,Itrychangethelatancy,thebuffer,andIdontkno
whatmoreIcando,hereIleavewhatIhave:
Laptop:HPpavilion1.6ghz,3.0ram,conexantHDAsoundcard,withWindowsXP
Pro.
Midicontroll:maudioevolutionuc33e.
ExternalAudioInterface:BehringerUCA222
Note:Ifsomebodyhavesomeanswerformyproblem,pleasecontactmebymail:
carlos_dlc05@hotmail.com,Igoingtowaithingforsomeone,beforetakethedesition
tobuyaNIAudio4or8.Thankyouguys.

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Sergiu 5yearsago

EverythingworksfinebutIdon'thearanysoundeventoughsound'sreaching
Ableton'sMasterOutput.

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BreakBomb 5yearsago

[quotecomment="5690"]Afteracoupleofhours,Imanagedtohookuptraktorwith
abletonwithJACKandNO(!!)Latency....workswonderfull....ijustrecomendto
downloadthelatestversionofjackandtryitout...iftherearestillpeoplearoundwho
wanttoknowletmeknow,andisendalittletut...
Happydjaying!!![/quote]
Dunnoabout"NOLatency"...myRolandFA101stillreportsahigherlatencyin
AbletonwhenusingTraktor&Jackinconjunctionwithit.Thewholesetup(as
fascinatingasitis)isfilledwithissuesthatcanmakeyouroverallrigveryunreliable.
AnyoneknowwhethertheSerato/AbletonBridgeisstable&completelylatencyfree?

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vidar 5yearsago

WiththeBentoSansetupthesignalfromthe"left"channelseemstogetlouderwhen
thecrossfaderismovedfromthe"left"positiontothemiddleandthenreducesagainto
theoriginalloudnesswhenthesliderismovedfurthertothe"right"channel.Ichecked
thisbymixingthesametrackonbothchannels.Doesanyoneexperiencethesame
effect?Maybesomeparametrizationinthesetupneedstobeadjusted?Notfamiliar
enoughwithabletonorsoundprocessingyettodiy..

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Feezy 5yearsago

[quotecomment="25816"]Lovethis
IsthereaversionwithTraktorScratchpro
Havingbigdifficulty[/quote]
Yeahtookmeawhiletofigureitouttoo,theonlydifferenceisthat,afterenablingthe
"SendMidiclock"featureintheconfig,clickonthemetronomeiconbelowtheFX1
iconinthetopleftcorner,thencheck"Auto"andclickplayandifyou'veseteverything
elseupright,Abletonshouldstartreceivingthesignal...hopethishelps

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Feezy 5yearsago

heythanksforthegreatguide!everythingwasprettyeasytosetupthankstothe
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heythanksforthegreatguide!everythingwasprettyeasytosetupthankstothe
pics...myquestionis:whatnow?:PImanabletonnoobalthoughivereaduponsmart
mixingandamreallyinterestedbutimnotsurewhattodoafterthetwoprogramsare
synced...ivegoogledalotforaguideorsomethingbutcantfindanyworthwhile
information...anyhelpwouldbegreat

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josh 5yearsago

Goodarticle.Hereisasimilarsolution:
http://www.shiningmorning.com/...

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vidar 5yearsago

ThanksTimsterforthathintaboutJackAudioServerforWindows!Maybesomeone
(BentoSan?)couldupdatethelinksabovetoincludethefree(andopensource!)
powerfulalternativetoVirtualAudioCable.AfterabitoffiddlingIgotAbleton
connectedviaJackdtoTraktortooutputtoanMAudioFasttrackPro(USB).The
maintwotrickswherethefollowing:A)theJacktoASIOconnection:Ilearnedfroma
similarexperimentonaTorqrelatedforumtoexplicitelywrite"ASIO::MAudioUSB
ASIO"intothe'Interface','Input'and'OutputDevice'fields,andtoput'4'intothe'Input'
and'OutputChannels'(withthe'(default)'settingIhadnosignalonthemonitor
output).Thesecondtrickwasalittlemoresubtle:TheMAudioASIOdriver
sometimesseemstoadjustthe'latency'(verticalsliderinthedriverscontrolpanel).
Incidentallythenumbersonthesliderseemtocorrespondtothe'frames/period'
settinginJack.Thesoundwasheavilydistortedwhenthevaluesdidnotmatch(sort
of),butwithJackandMAudioASIOdriversettothelowestpossiblevalueoftheM
Audiodriver(whichis128),thesoundisfine.FromwhatIsawintheshorttests,the
setupisstableandperformant.Butmoretestingshouldbedone.UnderLinux(running
mixxxorIDJConJackd)yearsagoI'vesufferedfromstrangesoftwarehangupsin
themiddleofasetwhichiswhyImovedtoTraktorinthefirstplace.Iguessit's
neverbeenJackd'sfault,whichisaveryfineresultofongoingopensourcesoftware
deveopmentefforts.Yuck,nowIhavetobuyAbletontoo..Theexperimentwasdone
usingthe'Ableton6lite'Demo:)

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fermx 5yearsago

isitnormalthatableton'sbpmchangesconstantly?
I'veeventryedstoppingallmytracksandleavetraktorbpmconstant(125)andbpm
inlive(evenwithallstopped!!)constantlyfluctuatesbetween122~127.Itsimpossible
tohaveatightmixwiththatfluctuationgoingon.
Imaginethefluctuationwhendroppingtracks(whichmakethemastertempointraktor
tofluctuateaccordingly),thatis2*fluctuation!!

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sehio 5yearsago

cananyonepleaseexplainhow'sthesetupofjackforwindows??Idon'tknowhowto
usemyAudio8DJviaJack...
thanks!:)

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Patch 5yearsago

HAsanyonegotthisworkingwithcontrolvinyl?I'vebeentryingtodothisforawhile
usingeitherJAckforWindows,orVAC.
I'vehadNOLUCK...:(
Isitpossibletomixtheaudiofrom2appswhenoneistakinginfofromcontrolvinyl?

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BreakBomb 5yearsago

Ignoremylastpost,asI'vealreadyfiguredouthowtomidisynctraktortoableton&
eventheotherwayaroundusingAbletonasmymasterclock.Mymainproblemnow
is...scratching8thnotesback&forthat145bpmgivesmeatotallatencyof1/8th.
Horribleifyouactuallyintendonsoundinggoodonyourscratches.
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Horribleifyouactuallyintendonsoundinggoodonyourscratches.

HatsofftoBentoSanforalltheinputgonnatrytotakeonJack&hopefullythat'llcut
thelatencydownabit.

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kinetikk 5yearsago

triedthiswithtraktorpro1.23andlive8gotmidiintotraktorthroughmidiyokebut
couldntgetmidiintolivewithmyxone4d.nottofussedaboutgettinglivetoworkbut
wanttousegrandvjinthesameway.goteverythingsetasinstructed.couldyouhelp
mealong?
cheerskinetikk

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BreakBomb 5yearsago

Incredibletutorial!!I'vegotteneverythingworkingexceptfortheMIDIsync.I'mrunning
TraktorScratchPro&mypreferenceslookdifferentfromyours.Thereisnooptionfor
selectingMIDIoutaswellasno"MIDIInterfaces"section.Anybody??

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Ultraviolet 5yearsago

Worksfinewiththemoldoversetup!Runningonwin7withaverylowlatency...cant
waittllthenextgig!!!

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Ultraviolet 5yearsago

[quotepost="312"][quotecomment="17856"]Hi
IhaveconnectedAbleton8withTraktorProbutIranintoafewproblems.
ImusingBelvarioSmartmixer,butslimslidecompressorkeepscrashingAbleton.It
saysVSTcouldntbefound,althoughitsinrightfolder...Cansomeonegivesan
examplewheretosidechaincompressors?[/quote]
Sameproblemhere...orcantfindvstorabletoncrashes.Tryingthemoldoversetup
wellseewhathappens.Anywaythanxforthetutorial!Goodwork...

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Tyronnster 5yearsago

Lovethis
IsthereaversionwithTraktorScratchpro
Havingbigdifficulty

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HappyNinja 5yearsago

ThankBentosanforthiswonderfultutorial,bigrispectsforyou.
i'mn00binthesoftwaremixing,ifollowedstrictlybentosantutorialandnothingwas
workingatall,i'musingtraktor1.2+abletonlive7(djingsoftwares).Theninoticed
thatASIORoutingit'sVERYIMPORTANTifsomethingisbadornotproperly
configuredinsidetheASIO4ALLstrangethingsaregoingtohappend.
i'mgoinginslowstepsbecausethisisfarfarcomplexthanbentosanwroteinthis
post,howeverit'sobviousthatyouneedtofigureoutyourowntogetthebestsetting
foryou.
Thankzbentosan.

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Jim 5yearsago

I'musingTraktorProandAbleton8
Ijustcan'tgetthemtosync(onsamelaptopetc)Idon'twnattorouteaudioor
anythingIsimplywantthemtomidisync..Abletonbpmflysallovertheplace
IhavetheMIDIoutputfromtraktoronMIIDYokeoutput3andtehinputto1andthe
inputonabletonto2
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inputonabletonto2
MIDIOXissetupexactlyasdesribed
aaaarrghhh

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