Professional Documents
Culture Documents
1/9
https://sis.cat.com/sisweb/sisweb/techdoc/content.jsp?calledpage=/sis...
Troubleshooting
C13 and C15 On-highway Engines
Media Number -RENR9343-06
i02582947
Description
158-2
168-2
168-3
168-4
The Electronic Service Tool Will Not Communicate with the ECM - If either unswitched battery voltage
or switched battery voltage is missing from the P1 connector, the Caterpillar Electronic Technician (ET) will
not communicate with the ECM. The ECM requires the keyswitch to be in the ON position in order to
communicate. Usually, the data link connector receives unswitched battery voltage. An indicator on the
communications adapter indicates when the communications adapter is receiving battery voltage.
158-2 (J1939) - The voltage on the keyswitch input transitions from a low voltage to a high voltage at least
three times in one second. A snapshot is triggered.
168-2 (J1939) - The engine is running. The battery voltage at the P1 terminals has fallen below 6 VDC for at
least 0.5 seconds. The ECM may stop injecting fuel. This depends on the length of time of the occurrence of
the problem. The check engine lamp and the warning lamp may come on. The engine may experience changes
in engine rpm. Intermittent engine shutdowns or complete engine shutdowns may occur.
168-3 (J1939) - The engine is running. The battery voltage at the P1 terminals is above 16 VDC for at least
0.5 seconds. A snapshot is triggered.
168-4 (J1939) - The engine is running. The battery voltage at the P1 terminals has fallen below 9 VDC for at
least three seconds. A snapshot is triggered and the engine is derated. The low voltage condition can be caused
by a problem on either the positive side or on the negative side of the battery circuit.
The following components can cause these codes:
Electrical connector or wiring
Keyswitch
ECM
2/9
https://sis.cat.com/sisweb/sisweb/techdoc/content.jsp?calledpage=/sis...
The most likely cause of the code is a problem with an electrical connector or with the wiring. The least likely
cause is a problem with the ECM.
Power Circuit
The ECM receives battery voltage through wiring that is supplied by the vehicle manufacturer. Unswitched
battery voltage is supplied to three terminals on the ECM P1 connector. The negative battery is also supplied
to three terminals on the P1 connector.
Keyswitch Circuit
The ECM receives battery voltage from the keyswitch on terminal P1-70 when the keyswitch is in the ON
position or in the START position. When the ECM detects battery voltage on this input, the ECM will power
up. When battery voltage is removed from this input, the ECM will power down.
Engine Shutdown Systems
Some vehicles may be equipped with an engine protection shutdown system or an idle timer shutdown system
that interrupts electrical power to the keyswitch. The engine protection shutdown system can be an aftermarket
device and the idle timer shutdown system can be external to the ECM. Some of these systems will not supply
power to the ECM until one of the following conditions is met:
The engine is cranked.
The engine oil pressure achieves acceptable limits.
An override button is pressed.
Keep in mind that these devices may be the cause of intermittent power to the ECM. These devices may also
shut down the engine.
Diagnostics on Cat ET
Cat ET provides the following diagnostics:
Wiggle Test - The wiggle test allows you to monitor the "ECM Battery Voltage" parameter and the "Ignition
Key Switch" parameter while you wiggle the wiring. This helps to identify faulty electrical connections.
Snapshots - When these diagnostic codes occur, the ECM records the status of the "ECM Battery Voltage"
parameter and the "Ignition Key Switch" parameter for 9.6 seconds before the diagnostic code and 3.4 seconds
after the diagnostic code.
For additional information regarding the use of these diagnostics, refer to the documentation that accompanies
your Cat ET software.
View Image
3/9
https://sis.cat.com/sisweb/sisweb/techdoc/content.jsp?calledpage=/sis...
Illustration 1
g01204929
4/9
https://sis.cat.com/sisweb/sisweb/techdoc/content.jsp?calledpage=/sis...
5/9
https://sis.cat.com/sisweb/sisweb/techdoc/content.jsp?calledpage=/sis...
View Image
Illustration 2
g01205045
6/9
https://sis.cat.com/sisweb/sisweb/techdoc/content.jsp?calledpage=/sis...
B. Refer to Illustration 2. Measure the battery voltage at the service tool connector.
Expected Result:
The voltage measurement is not within two volts of the battery voltage.
Results:
The voltage measurement is not within two volts of the battery voltage. The voltage at the service
tool connector is low. Repair: There is a problem with the vehicle wiring between the service tool connector and the battery.
Determine the cause of the low voltage. Repair the wiring, when possible. Replace parts, if necessary.
Continue with this procedure when the power indicator on the communications adapter is
illuminated.When the power indicator on the communications adapter is illuminated, attempt to establish
communication between Cat ET and the ECM. If communication is established, the problem is
resolved.If communication is not established, refer to Troubleshooting, "Data Link - Test".
STOP
The voltage at the service tool connector is within two volts of the battery voltage. Repair: Attempt to establish communication between Cat ET and the engine ECM. If communication is
established, the problem is resolved.If communication is not established, refer to Troubleshooting, "Data
Link - Test".
STOP
Test Step 4. Perform the Wiggle Test for the Battery Circuit
Interview the operator. Determine if there were other electrical problems. If there were other electrical
problems, there is a problem with the battery or with the wiring between the battery and the overcurrent
protection devices.
Check the battery and the wiring between the battery and the overcurrent protection devices if there were other
electrical problems. Continue with this procedure if the logged code was the only indication of an electrical
problem.
A. Verify that the engine is OFF and that the keyswitch is ON.
B. Configure Cat ET for the wiggle test. Select the status group that includes the "ECM Battery Voltage"
parameter for viewing. Start the wiggle test.
C. Slowly wiggle the wiring harness and the connectors between the P1 connector and the battery. Pay
particular attention to the wiring near each connector. Be sure to wiggle all of the wiring between the P1
connector and the battery. This includes the wiring to the overcurrent protection devices and the wiring
to any aftermarket devices.
As you wiggle the wiring, observe the harness and the connectors. Look for these problems:
Improperly routed harnesses or wiring
Loose connectors or damaged connectors
Damaged insulation that is caused by excessive heat
7/9
https://sis.cat.com/sisweb/sisweb/techdoc/content.jsp?calledpage=/sis...
8/9
https://sis.cat.com/sisweb/sisweb/techdoc/content.jsp?calledpage=/sis...
Repair: Wiggle the key in the keyswitch. If the "Ignition Key Switch" parameter is unstable, replace the
keyswitch. Send the vehicle to the OEM dealer for repair, if necessary.
STOP
Test Step 6. Check the Battery Voltage at the P1 Connector
Determine if there are other electrical problems. If there are other electrical problems, there is a problem with
the battery or with the wiring between the battery and the overcurrent protection devices.
Continue with this procedure if there are no other indications of electrical problems.
A. Do not turn off the engine.
B. Use Cat ET to view the value of the "ECM Battery Voltage" parameter.
Expected Result:
The voltage is less than 9.0 VDC.
Results:
The voltage is less than 9.0 VDC - Proceed to Test Step 7.
The voltage is greater than 9.0 VDC. - Cat ET indicates a "ECM Battery Voltage" that is greater than
9.0 VDC. However, there is an active 168-4 (J1939) code.
Repair: Replace the ECM. Refer to Troubleshooting, "ECM - Replace". Verify that the problem is
resolved.
STOP
Test Step 7. Check the Voltage at the Battery
Measure the voltage at the battery terminals.
Expected Result:
The voltage is less than 9.0 VDC.
Results:
OK - The voltage at the battery terminals is less than 9.0 VDC. There is a problem with the battery or
with the charging system.
Repair: Load test the battery. Replace the battery, if necessary. Test the charging system. Refer to
Systems Operation/Testing and Adjusting, "Charging System - Test".
STOP
Not OK - The voltage at the battery terminals is greater than 9.0 VDC. However, the voltage at the P1
terminals is less than 9.0 VDC.
Repair: The problem is in the vehicle wiring. The voltage drop can be caused by wiring or by a
component. Identify the cause of the voltage drop. Repair the problem, when possible. Replace parts, if
necessary. Send the vehicle to the OEM dealer for repair, if necessary. Verify that the problem is
resolved.
STOP
9/9
https://sis.cat.com/sisweb/sisweb/techdoc/content.jsp?calledpage=/sis...