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A few points I wanted to highlight from meetings today -I spent most of the afternoon at the Pentagon with the USAF strategic studies group - guys who spend their time trying to
understand and explain to the USAF chief the big picture in areas where they're operating in. It was just myself and four other
guys at the Lieutenant Colonel level, including one French and one British representative who are liaising with the US
currently out of DC.
They wanted to grill me on the strategic picture on Syria, so after that I got to grill them on the military picture. There is still a
very low level of understanding of what is actually at stake in Syria, what's the strategic interest there, the Turkish role,
the Iranian role, etc. After a couple hours of talking, they said without saying that SOF teams (presumably from US, UK,
France, Jordan, Turkey) are already on the ground focused on recce [ZH: "recce" means reconnaissance] missions and
training opposition forces. One Air Force intel guy (US) said very carefully that there isn't much of a Free Syrian Army to
train right now anyway, but all the operations being done now are being done out of 'prudence.' The way it was put to me was,
'look at this way - the level of information known on Syrian OrBat this month is the best it's been since 2001.' They have been
told to prepare contingencies and be ready to act within 2-3 months, but they still stress that this is all being done as
contingency planning, not as a move toward escalation.
I kept pressing on the question of what these SOF teams would be working toward, and whether this would lead to an
eventual air camapign to give a Syrian rebel group cover. They pretty quickly distanced themselves from that idea, saying
that the idea 'hypothetically' is to commit guerrilla attacks, assassination campaigns, try to break the back of the Alawite
forces, elicit collapse from within. There wouldn't be a need for air cover, and they wouldn't expect these Syrian rebels to be
marching in columns anyway.
They emphasized how the air campaign in Syria makes Libya look like a piece of cake. Syrian air defenses are a lot more
robust and are much denser, esp around Damascus and on the borders with Israel, Turkey. THey are most worried about
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mobile air defenses, particularly the SA-17s that they've been getting recently. It's still a doable mission, it's just not an easy
one.
The main base they would use is Cyprus, hands down. Brits and FRench would fly out of there. They kept stressing how
much is stored at Cyprus and how much recce comes out of there. The group was split on whether Turkey would be involved,
but said Turkey would be pretty critical to the mission to base stuff out of there. EVen if Turkey had a poltiical problem with
Cyprus, they said there is no way the Brits and the FRench wouldn't use Cyprus as their main air force base. Air Force
Intel guy seems pretty convinced that the Turks won't participate (he seemed pretty pissed at them.)
There still seems to be a lot of confusion over what a military intervention involving an air campaign would be designed to
achieve. It isn't clear cut for them geographically like in Libya, and you can't just create an NFZ over Homs, Hama
region. This would entail a countrywide SEAD campaign lasting the duration of the war. They dont believe air intervention
would happen unless there was enough media attention on a massacre, like the Ghadafi move against Benghazi. They
think the US would have a high tolerance for killings as long as it doesn't reach that very public stage. Theyre also
questiioning the skills of the Syrian forces that are operating the country's air defenses currently and how signfiicant the
Iranian presence is there. Air Force Intel guy is most obsessed with the challenge of taking out Syria's ballistic missile
capabilities and chem weapons. With Israel rgiht there and the regime facing an existential crisis, he sees that as a major
complication to any military intervention.
The post 2011 SOFA with Iraq is still being negotiated. These guys were hoping that during Biden's visit that he would
announce a deal with Maliki, but no such luck. They are gambling ont he idea that the Iraqis remember the iran-iraq war and
that maliki is not going to want to face the threat of Iranian jets entering Iraqi air space. THey say that most US fighter jets are
already out of Iraq and transferred to Kuwait. They explained that's the beauty of the air force, the base in Kuwait is just a
hop, skip and jump away from their bases in Europe, ie. very easy to rapidly build up when they need to. They don't
seem concerned about the US ability to restructure its forces to send a message to Iran. They gave the example of the USS
Enterprise that was supposed to be out of commission already and got extended another couple years to send to the gulf.
WHen the US withdraws, we'll have at least 2 carriers in the gulf out of centcom and one carrier in the Med out of
EuCom. I asked if the build-up in Kuwait and the carrier deployments are going to be enough to send a message to Iran that
the US isn't going anywhere. They responded that Iran will get the message if they read the Centcom Web Site. STarting Jan. 1
expect them to be publishing all over the place where the US is
building up.
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Another concern they have about an operation in Syria is whether Iran could impede operations out of Balad air force
base in Iraq.
The French representative was of hte opinion that Syria won't be a libya-type situation in that France would be gung-ho about
going in. Not in an election year. The UK rep also emphasized UK reluctance but said that the renegotiation of the EU treaty
undermines the UK role and that UK would be looking for ways to reassert itself on the continent ( i dont really think a syria
campaign is the way to do that.) UK guy mentioned as an aside that the air force base commander at Cyprus got switched
out from a maintenance guy to a guy that flew Raptors, ie someone that understands what it means to start dropping
bombs. He joked that it was probably a coincidence.
Prior to that, I had a meeting with an incoming Kuwaiti diplomat (will be coded as KU301.) His father was high up in the
regime, always by the CP's/PM's side. The diplo himself still seems to be getting his feet wet in DC (the new team just arrived
less than 2 weeks ago,) but he made pretty clear that Kuwait was opening the door to allowing US to build up forces as
needed. THey already have a significant presence there, and a lot of them will be on 90-day rotations. He also said that the
SOFA that the US signs with Baghdad at the last minute will be worded in such a way that even allowing one trainer in the
country can be construed to mean what the US wants in terms of keeping forces in Iraq. Overall, I didnt get the impression
from him that Kuwait is freaked out about the US leaving.
Everyhting is just getting rearranged. The Kuwaitis used to be much better at managing their relations with Iran, but ever since
that spy ring story came out a year ago, it's been bad. He doesn't think Iran has significant covert capabililiteis in the GCC
states, though they are trying. Iranian activity is mostly propaganda focused. He said that while KSA and Bahrain they can
deal with it as needed and black out the media, Kuwait is a lot more open and thus provides Iran with more oppotunity
to shape perceptions (he used to work in inforamtion unit in Kuwait.) He says there is a sig number of kuwaitis that listen
to Iranian media like Al Alam especially.
On the Kuwaiti political scene - the government is having a harder time dealing with a more emboldened opposition, but the
opposition is still extremely divided, esp among the Islamists. The MPs now all have to go back to their tribes to rally support
for the elections to take place in Feb. Oftentimes an MP in Kuwait city will find out that he has lost support back home with
the tribe, and so a lot of moeny is handed out.The govt is hoping that witha clean slate they can quiet the opposition down.
A good way of managing the opposition he said is to refer cases to the courts, where they can linger forever. good way for the
govt to buy time. He doesnt believe the Arab League will take significant action against Syria - no one is interested in military
intervention. they just say it to threaten it.
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The US certainly committed mass murder with sanctions on Iraq in 1990s and the
Iraq invasion and occupation...
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Current Zionist/USA military strategy was honed in the early1980s, after the
elimination of Egypt as a military threat. Ariel Sharon announced publicly in
1981, shortly before invading Lebanon, that Israel no longer thought in
Another Joe
It's certainly tempting to try to boil international conditions down to assigning
various groups...
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terms of peace with its neighbors, but instead sought to widen its sphere of
influence to the whole region to include countries like Turkey, Syria, Iran,
Pakistan, and areas like the Persian Gulf and Africa, and in particular the
countries of North and Central Africa. This view of Israel as a regional
superpower/ bully became known as the Sharon Doctrine and very similar
to Nazi style holocausts.
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jerrygates 13 hours ago
Tyler Durden explores the underpinnings of what he calls the Grand
Scheme concerning why US Jordanian Israeli Saudi and Brit special forces
and trainers are headed for Damascus.
On the Road to Damascus is reportedly where the Christian hating
Pharisee of Pharisees, Saul was en route to persecute more Christian
followers of the early churchs in Syria, Saul was blinded by a spiritual
messianic voice on that road which called vehemently directly into the port
of his soul, through his eyes this voice reached into his innermost
subconsciousness, his soul was also blinded of it's ambition.
A brother awaited in Damascus to console and counsel the blinded
persecutor of Christs early church after being accosted by this messianic
voice which said to Saul, why persecutest thou me, it;s hard kicking against
the pricks. Nadia Al Alami came to me at facebook for Queen Ranis as this
news broke last year, she stated that war was the only way to dislodge
Assad from Iran and build a respectable Arab spring of Arab parts and
participants. She isnt mentioned in Durdens rant nor is Jordan.s role or that
of any Israeli agency or wonks nest, save for the moderate sounding
Stratfor, urging a slow burning guerilla wear down period followed by
insertions of assasins and as we see chemical weapons experts to save
the day after these same chemical weapons experts provided the
ordinance which murdered hundreds of people, many of them children and
sickened hundreds more with grave suffering.
No mention here of whom might have allowed such a grave incident to
occur with all of their sophisticated sureveilance capability surly in theater
by now, Google earth live as it isnt called at stratfor has full graphic creation
of radar images in real time, spooks literally sat by as the chemical
ordinance was delivered, loaded, as the weapon was mounted, armed and
aimed, and did nothing to stop this, typical of stratfor operations in
surveilance, they knew that death rained down with horrible human
suffering to follow and allowed it to gain entry from Jordans border of their
insertion teams of assasins, What Durden or the meat heade Luitenant
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Colonel may or may not understand is the parties where they sup are
exactly what the deeps want interested parties to take in as their deep ov
plan, which of course is the elites deceptions of their peers to dissude
whitleblowers, it stands to reason that that devil wishes it;s dupes not to
know that they are paying for, condoning by their inaction and aiding and
abetting war criminals, war crimes, wars of aggression, atricities comission
by callusion between state and private actors to extort favor from taxpayers
coffers for their furtherance of corrupt operations which curtail citizen
ownership of nations to enhance corporate comp. control of nations under
these seige like sedition attacks from Nato and GCC allies.
A lot of fluff in Durdens stuff but as it shows, the ease by which folks such
as the second luie birdbrain in question gain access to be "leakers" in their
own right while Manning sits on cold concrete cell block benches in fishnets
and a blond wig tells a new story, writes a new song of Solomon so to
speak, the poetry is astonishing almost,
It's as if Her tiny inner girl just sits there like a beautiful canary in a coal
mine of military hardened criminals while the luitenant colonel listens in to
observe and report back to this tiny sister in San Quentin Royale, my
destiny at one time, my military lawyer showed me pictures of my future
home, no escape Jerry, people like you go in for eleven years and never
come out, OK captain McCool, where do I sign and what do I have to do.
Oh what a web we weave little sister big sits there we sit here, we have the
fate of the planet before us big sisters hearts beats in the little one's chest
now, she feels it;s power and like Peter, her resistance is that sleep of faith
while angels arrange for her escape. I'll bite Tyler, Liberty or death.
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