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Freedoms
With ObamaCARE now passed, containing the Cornhusker Kickback,

Gator-Aid, the Lousiana Purchase, and other shady deals, Investors Business Daily gives up 20
ways that ObamaCARE will take away our freedoms. IBD’s sections described below are taken
from HR 3590 as agreed to by the Senate and from the reconciliation bill which takes out the
Cornhusker Kickback and Gator-Aid as displayed by the Rules Committee.
1. You are young and don’t want health insurance? You are starting up a small
business and need to minimize expenses, and one way to do that is to forego health
insurance? Tough. You have to pay $750 annually for the “privilege.” (Section 1501)
2. You are young and healthy and want to pay for insurance that reflects that status?
Tough. You’ll have to pay for premiums that cover not only you, but also the guy
who smokes three packs a day, drink a gallon of whiskey and eats chicken fat off the
floor. That’s because insurance companies will no longer be able to underwrite on the
basis of a person’s health status. (Section 2701).
3. You would like to pay less in premiums by buying insurance with lifetime or
annual limits on coverage? Tough. Health insurers will no longer be able to offer such
policies, even if that is what customers prefer. (Section 2711).
4. Think you’d like a policy that is cheaper because it doesn’t cover preventive care or
requires cost-sharing for such care? Tough. Health insurers will no longer be able to
offer policies that do not cover preventive services or offer them with cost-sharing,
even if that’s what the customer wants. (Section 2712).
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5. You are an employer and you would like to offer coverage that doesn’t allow your
employers’ slacker children to stay on the policy until age 26? Tough. (Section 2714).
6. You must buy a policy that covers ambulatory patient services, emergency
services, hospitalization, maternity and newborn care, mental health and substance
use disorder services, including behavioral health treatment; prescription drugs;
rehabilitative and habilitative services and devices; laboratory services; preventive
and wellness services; chronic disease management; and pediatric services, including
oral and vision care.
You’re a single guy without children? Tough, your policy must cover pediatric
services. You’re a woman who can’t have children? Tough, your policy must cover
maternity services. You’re a teetotaler? Tough, your policy must cover substance
abuse treatment. (Add your own violation of personal freedom here.) (Section 1302).
7. Do you want a plan with lots of cost-sharing and low premiums? Well, the best you
can do is a “Bronze plan,” which has benefits that provide benefits that are actuarially
equivalent to 60% of the full actuarial value of the benefits provided under the plan.
Anything lower than that, tough. (Section 1302 (d) (1) (A))
8. You are an employer in the small-group insurance market and you’d like to offer
policies with deductibles higher than $2,000 for individuals and $4,000 for families?
Tough. (Section 1302 (c) (2) (A).
9. If you are a large employer (defined as at least 101 employees) and you do not
want to provide health insurance to your employee, then you will pay a $750 fine per
employee (It could be $2,000 to $3,000 under the reconciliation changes). Think you
know how to better spend that money? Tough. (Section 1513).
10. You are an employer who offers health flexible spending arrangements and your
employees want to deduct more than $2,500 from their salaries for it? Sorry, can’t do
that. (Section 9005 (i)).
11. If you are a physician and you don’t want the government looking over your
shoulder? Tough. The Secretary of Health and Human Services is authorized to use
your claims data to issue you reports that measure the resources you use, provide
information on the quality of care you provide, and compare the resources you use to
those used by other physicians. Of course, this will all be just for informational
purposes. It’s not like the government will ever use it to intervene in your practice and
patients’ care. Of course not. (Section 3003 (i))
12. If you are a physician and you want to own your own hospital, you must be an
owner and have a “Medicare provider agreement” by Feb. 1, 2010. (Dec. 31, 2010 in
the reconciliation changes.) If you didn’t have those by then, you are out of luck.
(Section 6001 (i) (1) (A))
13. If you are a physician owner and you want to expand your hospital? Well, you
can’t (Section 6001 (i) (1) (B). Unless, it is located in a country where, over the last
five years, population growth has been 150% of what it has been in the state (Section
6601 (i) (3) ( E)). And then you cannot increase your capacity by more than 200%
(Section 6001 (i) (3) (C)).
14. You are a health insurer and you want to raise premiums to meet costs? Well, if
that increase is deemed “unreasonable” by the Secretary of Health and Human
Services it will be subject to review and can be denied. (Section 1003)
15. The government will extract a fee of $2.3 billion annually from the
pharmaceutical industry. If you are a pharmaceutical company what you will pay
depends on the ratio of the number of brand-name drugs you sell to the total number
of brand-name drugs sold in the U.S. So, if you sell 10% of the brand-name drugs in
the U.S., what you pay will be 10% multiplied by $2.3 billion, or $230,000,000.
(Under reconciliation, it starts at $2.55 billion, jumps to $3 billion in 2012, then to
$3.5 billion in 2017 and $4.2 billion in 2018, before settling at $2.8 billion in 2019
(Section 1404)). Think you, as a pharmaceutical executive, know how to better use
that money, say for research and development? Tough. (Section 9008 (b)).
16. The government will extract a fee of $2 billion annually from medical device
makers. If you are a medical device maker what you will pay depends on your share
of medical device sales in the U.S. So, if you sell 10% of the medical devices in the
U.S., what you pay will be 10% multiplied by $2 billion, or $200,000,000. Think you,
as a medical device maker, know how to better use that money, say for R&D? Tough.
(Section 9009 (b)).
The reconciliation package turns that into a 2.9% excise tax for medical device
makers. Think you, as a medical device maker, know how to better use that money,
say for research and development? Tough. (Section 1405).
17. The government will extract a fee of $6.7 billion annually from insurance
companies. If you are an insurer, what you will pay depends on your share of net
premiums plus 200% of your administrative costs. So, if your net premiums and
administrative costs are equal to 10% of the total, you will pay 10% of $6.7 billion, or
$670,000,000. In the reconciliation bill, the fee will start at $8 billion in 2014, $11.3
billion in 2015, $1.9 billion in 2017, and $14.3 billion in 2018 (Section 1406).Think
you, as an insurance executive, know how to better spend that money? Tough.
(Section 9010 (b) (1) (A and B).)
18. If an insurance company board or its stockholders think the CEO is worth more
than $500,000 in deferred compensation? Tough.(Section 9014).
19. You will have to pay an additional 0.5% payroll tax on any dollar you make over
$250,000 if you file a joint return and $200,000 if you file an individual return. What?
You think you know how to spend the money you earned better than the government?
Tough. (Section 9015).
That amount will rise to a 3.8% tax if reconciliation passes. It will also apply to
investment income, estates, and trusts. You think you know how to spend the money
you earned better than the government? Like you need to ask. (Section 1402).
20. If you go for cosmetic surgery, you will pay an additional 5% tax on the cost of
the procedure. Think you know how to spend that money you earned better than the
government? Tough. (Section 9017).
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3. Ted on March 23rd, 2010 8:47 am
My comment about Obama’s healthcare program is directed at the minority who distinguish
between insult and argument (i.e., whose brains are as active as their balls).
Dennis Kucinich has called health care a “Civil Right,” while Ron Paul no less vehemently
insists it isn’t. The problem is the evidence suggests that, in different ways, both are equally
right.
To briefly review the hard-and-fast material justification for Kucinich’s position. Prior to
the industrialization and urbanization which began after the Civil War, the United States
was essentially a “do it yourself” nation, with ninety-five percent of Americans living on
farms, or in small villages. There were no cars or trains, and the only roads came from
farmers driving wagons over common trails when visiting one another or going to town for
provisions. Education, fire and police protection were individualistic, small community
operations. County residents contributed to pay for a sheriff and a teacher, often building the
“Little Red School House” themselves. So, too, with medical care. Farmers/villagers might
chip in to cover the modest expense of sending a bright student to the city for the 2-years of
training required to become a physician. But most often it was the student’s family who
paid.
Then we industrialized and everything dramatically changed. Trains and railways, cars and
roadways, became imperative for servicing the rapidly growing metropolises. Houses began
to be built so close to each other that a fire in one home could destroy much of a city,
making fire departments, using increasingly sophisticated equipment, imperative. A large
and growing number of Americans started working in factories for wages and theft became
a problem which could only be controlled with large police departments. Medical care
underwent the same transformation. With people living close together and able to drive to
visit friends and relatives residing miles away, contagious diseases could spread almost as
fast as fires. As a consequence, large, expensive hospitals had to be built, and medical
training became increasingly sophisticated and costly.
The changes described meant that hundreds-of-millions, eventually billions of dollars were
needed to build/maintain the requisite roads, highways and rails, to establish adequate fire
and police facilities, to train physicians specialized in specific diseases, to construct
laboratories for synthesizing and testing medicines, and, to build/maintain/manage hospitals
which used diagnostic equipment costing tens-of-millions of dollars. Obviously, no small
community of people could come up with that kind of money. There was only one adequate
source: everyone. So today, whether we do it directly by paying taxes, or, indirectly by
buying food, cars, clothing or anything else from people who then use a portion of the
money we pay them to cover their own federal, state, city and county taxes, we all fund the
construction and maintenance of our roads and highways, our schools, fire and police
departments, each and every one of us. Since everyone provides them, it’s universally
accepted that respecting roads and highways everyone should get to use them. Not even the
poorest among us are pulled over on the highway and told “You didn’t pay to build this
road, so you aren’t allowed to use it!” So too, with fire and police services. Americans who
live in the poorest sections of their towns and cities may (usually justifiably) complain the
police don’t show the same concern when they’re attacked or robbed as when a victim is
wealthy. But, sharing the assumption their departments’ services are for everyone, police
chiefs will deny, and probably try to believe, that no class discrimination occurs.
Now consider the physicians who treat us, the chemists who synthesize the medicines we
take, and the pharmacists who sell them. If they attended public schools, from kindergarten
through high school their education was provided by everyone, via county taxes directly,
state and federal taxes indirectly. If they went to private schools, the wealthy individuals
and foundations who funded them received tax write-offs for their contributions, and again,
everyone paid. The same holds for their university educations. Whether the institutions they
attend are publicly or privately financed, everyone pays. Finally, the federal government
furnishes not millions but tens-of-billions of dollars of everyone’s money for the country’s
medical care. The National Institutes of Health provides over $30 billion-a-year just for
biological and medical research, about 30 percent of the total biomedical research
expenditure. Most of the remaining 70 percent comes from biomedical industries, which
then receive billions-of-dollars in tax write offs. Once more, everyone pays. Obviously, if
we apply the same biblical exhortation “as you give, so shall you receive” ethic to medicine
that we use for fire/police protection and the building and maintenance of roads, Kucinich
reaches the only logical and just conclusion: health care has become a “Civil Right.”
On the other hand, there’s also indisputable material evidence for Ron Paul’s conviction
that it isn’t; or, more to the point, that under present conditions making health care a Civil
Right is going to cost us more than we can afford to pay, both in personal freedom and
financially. Re the first, Paul argues that insofar as governments have taken control of
peoples lives, dictating what they think and determining how they behave, things have
invariably gotten worse for the majority of people. On that score, history declares in loud
voice that Paul’s one-hundred percent right. From the former Soviet Union, Soviet
dominated Eastern Europe and China on the Left, to Nazi Germany, fascist Italy and
Pinochet’s Chile on the Right, governments across the political spectrum have consistently
taken away people’s freedoms, often their lives. At the best of times they have helped to
protect individual freedom. They have never been never been its source. Paul is right, too,
that under the Obama Administration the top heavy government bureaucracies which
control and direct everything from agriculture, to national defense, to home construction, to
social welfare, to health care—and do it in the service of the wealthiest individuals and
corporations in every sector—are destined to grow ever more burdensome, and, that
Obama’s health care program constitutes an alarming expansion of that process.
Finally, Paul is right that when added to the national debt already being borne by every
American, the cost of the Health Care bill Obama seems destined to sign—a bill which
gives the cake to insurance and pharmaceutical corporations, the crumbs to the people—
seems certain to break the economy. We simply won’t be able to afford this kind of
government, Paul persuasively argues.
Frustratingly for a student of history, the constantly growing bureaucratic monolith Paul tilts
at is referred to as “socialist” by those on the Right, who offer no material justification for
that definition. Many even associate that proposition with old Karl Marx, which surely has
his bleached bones rattling in the grave. Where government was concerned, Marx actually
went much further than Paul, proposing that upon the advent of a socialist revolution not
only the political state but all of politics would promptly come to an end. Reasoning the
function of politics is everywhere and always to defend the “social existence” of those who
act politically, Marx insisted that the people who have the most to protect against those who
have less will invariably be the most political and will control/direct the state. Since he
believed everyone would immediately begin receiving an equal portion of society’s
domestic product following a socialist revolution, Marx logically concluded both the
function and the rationale for politics and a political government would thereupon cease to
exist. Only a small administration would remain to direct the equalitarian distribution, and
the administrators would all be subject to immediate recall by the people if found to be
incompetent or unjust. To be sure, the anti-feudal, pro-industrial elites who oversaw
revolutions in the U.S.S.R., China, et al. did to Marx’s logic what the feudal inquisitionists
of 16th century Spain and France, and the elites behind Franco’s Spain and Pinochet’s Chile
did to that of Christ; namely, tear it apart, then embrace the shards which served their
personal interests. But one wonders, at the present historical juncture, with libertarians on
the Right and anti-capitalists on the Left registering many of the same complaints, with
them signing the same protest statements and marching in the same parades, is it possible
the time has come to give old Karl’s thesis a second look?
4. Rev Reggie Jackson on March 23rd, 2010 8:51 am
This is the beginning of the end for the Great American empire!! And if we don’t fight it
through each of our States; America will be doomed. And then the new world order
antichrist beast system will enslave us all; and bring us under their coming One World
Government that will enslave us all in the very near future.
And the Only one that can defeat them is the Great God of Heaven!! And He will defeat
them when He sends His Almighty Son Jesus with His holy angels and his saints that died
in fighting the wicked new world order antichrist beast!!
And don’t take their Mark of the Beast chip that they will try to force everybody to take
their zombie making and autonotomic making chip in their forehead or hand. And it will
slowly change your mind so that you will worship the antichrist and his father Lucifer. As
one day you will wake up; and forget who you were; and embrace the antichrist instead as
your god !! Which means according to Revelation 14:9, that you will forever be cursed by
God and thrown into the great lake of fire and brimstone forever and ever!
5. attietewd on March 23rd, 2010 8:54 am
KEEP THE FAITH
6. mitch on March 23rd, 2010 9:13 am
Um… I’m not a health insurer. Or a physician who owns a hospital.
You’re just grasping at straws.
7. 20 Ways ObamaCare Will Take Away Our Freedoms on March 23rd, 2010 9:53 am
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8. Rouge711 on March 23rd, 2010 10:07 am
Posted on the INFOWARS.COM site by the big Fake Alex Jones

Investors Business Daily gives up 20 ways that ObamaCARE will take away our freedoms.
IBD’s sections described below are taken from HR 3590 as agreed to by the Senate and
from the reconciliation bill which takes out the Cornhusker Kickback and Gator-Aid as
displayed by the Rules Committee. An autographed copy of the bill after the House passed
Obamacare in Washington, Sunday, March 21, 2010.
1. You are young and don’t want health insurance? You are starting up a small business and
need to minimize expenses, and one way to do that is to forego health insurance? Tough.
You have to pay $750 annually for the “privilege.” (Section 1501)
Response: Agreed however that 750. Breaks down to 62.50 per month. Hardly going to put
any one out of business. This is a B.S point!
2. You are young and healthy and want to pay for insurance that reflects that status? Tough.
You’ll have to pay for premiums that cover not only you, but also the guy who smokes three
packs a day, drink a gallon of whiskey and eats chicken fat off the floor. That’s because
insurance companies will no longer be able to underwrite on the basis of a person’s health
status. (Section 2701).
Response: Also they will no longer discriminate with cancer servicers and those who are ill
and need insurance the most but can’t get it so they DIE! A really B.S Point!
3. You would like to pay less in premiums by buying insurance with lifetime or annual
limits on coverage? Tough. Health insurers will no longer be able to offer such policies,
even if that is what customers prefer. (Section 2711).

Response: How many people in their right mind want less coverage? The only real reason
for that is there young and don’t know any better. This is legit but WEEK
4. Think you’d like a policy that is cheaper because it doesn’t cover preventive care or
requires cost-sharing for such care? Tough. Health insurers will no longer be able to offer
policies that do not cover preventive services or offer them with cost-sharing, even if that’s
what the customer wants. (Section 2712).
You keep saying “if that’s what the customer wants” Where are your numbers on these so
called customers? I don’t know anyone who really wants less or no coverage! B.S.POINT!
5. You are an employer and you would like to offer coverage that doesn’t allow your
employers’ slacker children to stay on the policy until age 26? Tough. (Section 2714).
Response: Manny of these “SLAKERCHILDREN have no insurance because of the lack of
jobs, or they are in school. B.S.POINT
6. You must buy a policy that covers ambulatory patient services, emergency services,
hospitalization, maternity and newborn care, mental health and substance use disorder
services, including behavioral health treatment; prescription drugs; rehabilitative and
facilitative services and devices; laboratory services; preventive and wellness services;
chronic disease management; and pediatric services, including oral and vision care.
You’re a single guy without children? Tough, your policy must cover pediatric services.
You’re a woman who can’t have children? Tough, your policy must cover maternity
services. You’re a teetotaler? Tough, your policy must cover substance abuse treatment.
(Add your own violation of personal freedom here.) (Section 1302).
OMG! You have to have emergency care and preventative coverage because you are
healthy now why would you want to prevent illness in the future, or be covered for an
emergency,afterall no 20’s something ever has one of them ! Dumb Ass!
9. If you are a large employer (defined as at least 101 employees) and you do not want to
provide health insurance to your employee, then you will pay a $750 fine per employee (It
could be $2,000 to $3,000 under the reconciliation changes). Think you know how to better
spend that money? Tough. (Section 1513).
Oh darn you have to provide coverage to your employees because that’s what responsible
employers do. Hey you also don’t have the freedom to shoot, rape and enslave employees,
they really are rolled back those “freedoms aren’t they?”
10. You are an employer who offers health flexible spending arrangements and your
employees want to deduct more than $2,500 from their salaries for it? Sorry, can’t do that.
(Section 9005 (I)).
Hey dumb dumb’s you have a limit now of 2500,00 so… B.S.Point
I have a news flash they all are. This article is a B.J to the big insurance lobby.
Alex Jones! I am calling you out! You are a scum you are a right wing big corp. shill.
I challenge you to a debate any time anywhere on this issue! I am posting this on YouTube,
your site and everywhere I can! The whole world will know what a big potbellied fake you
are!
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the Cornhusker Kickback, Gator-Aid, the Lousiana Purchase, and other shady deals,
Investors Business Daily gives up 20 ways that ObamaCARE will take away our freedoms.
IBD’s sections described below are taken from HR 3590 as agreed to by the Senate and
from the reconciliation bill which takes out the Cornhusker Kickback and Gator-Aid as
displayed by the Rules Committee. [...]
10. Steve on March 23rd, 2010 10:55 am
I’m screwed on points 1 and 6, as I’m a single guy without children and with an under-
capitalized start up business.
The irony of all of it is that Obama’s supporters would probably call me a racist for
opposing his policies. I’m far from one now, but when they throw me in jail for not having
health insurance, I’ll have to team up with the neo-nazi guys to surive.
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15. Joseph Conrad on March 23rd, 2010 11:25 pm
How could so many MILLIONS of Americans be so stupid, olivious, greedy, arrogant an

self-aggrandizing ALL AT ONCE!?
This nation is like Humptyty-Dumpty. It’s fallen off the wall and cracked like an egg on
mrable. Its’ bankrupt. It’s money is worthless. It’s young people are dying in endless
foreign wars to make the Wealthy wealthier! And its people have become Cowards afraid to
save their Country from the Thieves, Liars & Cheats who now un it!
Americans DESERVE Obamacare & all its Evils!
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17. Patrick on March 24th, 2010 6:17 am
This is communism
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22. Gary on March 25th, 2010 9:06 am
Not to mention what it will do to the 2nd amendment rights. What do you think is going to
happen eventually, with outlaw gangbangers shooting themselves up with illegal guns that
have been banned by cities like Chicago, New York city, Los Angeles etc.?? The cost of
running these wounded punks to patch them up; if they survive that is, at the local hospitals
nationwide, every week and weekend, would be astronomical! They will then try to say that
all guns need to be banned, or else it will break health care, the economy etc, etc. I know
these institutions are broke already, but the libs have been salivating at the idea of making
the american citizen completely helpless by taking away our gun rights for decades. This
cannot be. And it won’t be. Our founders never fired a shot, ’til the british came to disarm
them. Then, as we all know, all hell broke loose! And a new nation was founded.
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24. Cygnus on March 25th, 2010 11:15 pm
I’m not a liberal whiner and I do not fill this section with profanity. Still watching this
surreal soap opera called medicare legislation bill argumentation…eh…
You know, I’m from Europe and frankly, previously I thought americans are plain selfish.
Now the case is different. I know americans are plain selfish. You really do not care weather
your neighbour dies for lacking treatment worth some thousands of US. Plain crazy.
You tell you’re god loving people and fight against right for abortion but as soon as the kid
is born you really do not care weather the kid lives or dies when treatment costs few dimes.
I guess the abortion “morale” is also plainly based on reluctance of paying other people’s
treatment.
I just do not get it.
25. The Honest Truth on March 26th, 2010 2:26 am
Socialized medicine cannot work in the United States because you have tens of millions of
chronic indigents and 30+ million illegal aliens addicted to the social teat of free lunches
who take more out of society than they put back. When you combine this when an ever
decreasing industrial and technology base, an economy that is 70% reliant on consumer
spending the ramifications are clear. Either way, with a true socialist system and higher
taxes, or this monstrosity of merely FORCING the productive members of society to pay
more for health insurance, it is a recipe for disaster. The Obamanation certainly isn’t
completely to blame for the ills of this dying nation, but he will be viewed in history as the
one who pushed the country over the edge into the abyss of no return. We are literally
headed to the 3rd world and everyone knows why but is afraid to say it. We have an
addiction to cheap Latin American labor and importing 3rd world people under the guise of
equality and human rights who are not wanted in their own countries of origin. This nation
is literally on a collision course with the likes of Brazil and it’s reality of gated communities
and teeming slums. It’s 3rd world level health care system where the only good care you
can receive is if you have the money to pay out of pocket to a private provider.
26. Sara Lane on March 26th, 2010 3:09 am
Teddy Roosevelt from 1906 is finally getting his wish for the future. Anti-trust for everyone
except a central bank, the legal system and now the healthcare system. The three pillars of
socialism. This is what congress was referring to when they said it has been a 100 year
battle.
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28. Bruce Brooker on March 26th, 2010 3:49 am
Universal healthcare in amerika? How progressive.

If you backward thinking knuckle dragging rednecks ‘don like it, tough…just call in an air
strike.
29. Yig on March 26th, 2010 4:00 am
Think about it…
All cost (including fines and taxes), in the end, are passed down to the consumer.
30. Dale on March 26th, 2010 4:05 am
I do not know much about the new health care bill. I think the person or people who wrote
this top 20 list are a bit cold hearted. My observation is that they had a real concern for
insurance companys. I do not.
31. john r on March 26th, 2010 4:29 am
i have several problems with the healthcare bill. Actually more like a hundred. but i’ll keep
it simple. I resent how much the government noses into our lives as it is. More is
unacceptable. They already track email,phone calls,can open your mail,xray you at
airports,cameras at intersections.Its already too much like a bad scifi movie. And now they
want my medical records too. WTF.It is so intrusive.There is nowhere one can go to escape
the watchers and the taxers.Nowhere on the planet soon enuf.Egregious violations of our
once guaranteed civil rights.I just want to be left alone.State sponsored workmans comp
fights me at every turn for a back injury i suffered at work.Will healthcare run by the fed be
any different?
Quit trying to steal all my money.I’m barely my own revenue stream.I cant afford to support
the government or anyone else.
Big government panders to big business.Big business has the money and lobbyists to get
what they want.Our representatives dont represent us as much as they do the money.I cant
believe for a moment this would all pass if it didnt benefit big business more than the
people.Almost every day some govt official gets busted for one impropriety or another.I
dont trust any of them.
And certainly not with my life.I made that mistake once already when i joined the army and
ended up in a war that those same officials lied about.Why on earth would i trust them now?
Finally….tax for ten years, provide service for 6 years.OK. Mathematically that means at
some point the cost goes up 66% to have ten years of tax pay for ten years of service.If it at
least payed for abortions it might have the decency to do a D and C on itself.
32. ohioriver on March 26th, 2010 6:01 am
For individuals age 55 or older, States are required to seek recovery of payments from the
individual’s estate for nursing facility services, home and community-based services, and
related hospital and prescription drug services.
And the poor that are forced into medicaid will lose what little they have.It also states that
the states have the option of recovering costs from other services.Forget about making a will
to leave anything to your children.
33. ohioriver on March 26th, 2010 6:06 am
http://www.cms.hhs.gov/MedicaidEligibility/08_Estate_Recovery.asp#TopOfPage
Read for yourself.
34. hondojkb on March 26th, 2010 6:23 am
Paradigm shift.
35. Mihail on March 26th, 2010 7:25 am
Some call it Marxism — I call it Judaism.” (The American Bulletin, Rabbi S. Wise, May 5,
1935).
“It is legitimate to adopt a critical attitude toward the relatively large number of Jews who
particularly in the first decade after the Bolshevik revolution collaborated with the Soviet
Government in the persecution of other peoples.” — Statement of researcher Michael Mills,
an official of the government of Australia at Canberra. (Source: Forward, March 10, 2000)
— Robert Wilton, a long time Russia correspondent for the London Times, said in his book
The Last Days of the Romanovs:
“According to the data furnished by the Soviet press, out of 556 important functionaries of
the Bolshevik State there were in 1918-1919: 17 Russians, 2 Ukrainians, 11 Armenians, 35
Lets, 15 Germans, 1 Hungarian, 10 Georgians, 2 Poles, 2 Finns, 1 Karaim, 457 Jews.
“As the decades past by — after the fateful year 1917 — Judaized Khazars kept a firm hand
on the helm of the government in the occupied land of Russia. In due time they built a
bureaucracy to their heart’s desire.”
“The Communist soul is the soul of Judaism. Hence it follows that, just as in the Russian
revolution the triumph of Communism was the triumph of Judaism, so also in the triumph of
fascism will triumph Judaism.” (A Program for the Jews and Humanity, Rabbi Harry
Waton, p. 143-144).
The American Hebrew September 10, 1920:
“The Bolshevist revolution in Russia was the work of Jewish brains, of Jewish
dissatisfaction, of Jewish planning, whose goal is to create a new order in the world. What
was performed in so excellent a way in Russia, thanks to Jewish brains, and because of
Jewish dissatisfaction, and by Jewish planning, shall also, through the same Jewish mental
and physical forces, become a reality all over the world.”
“The Jews welcome this revolution in the Christian world, and the Jews should show an
example. It is not an accident that Judaism gave birth to Marxism, and it is not an accident
that the Jews readily took up Marxism: all this was in perfect accord with the progress of
Judaism and the Jews.” (A Program for the Jews and Humanity, by Rabbi Harry Waton, p.
148).
“We have exterminated the property owners in Russia. We are going to do the same thing in
Europe and America.” (The Jew, December 1925, Zinobit).
36. James120756 on March 26th, 2010 7:58 am
Tough, you lost, get over it. If you wanted to help the people and pass health care you liked,
you should have passed it while Bush was in power, instead of starting two wars and almost
bankrupting this country. Also thanks for the economic meltdown- caused by all the favors
you gave to business and Wall street over the years PS Reagan was a putz.
37. kzfisch on March 26th, 2010 9:02 am
Regarding article – 20 Ways ObamaCare Will Take Away Our Freedoms Posted on March
25:
The problem with this article, in a word, is it’s propaganda. Propaganda biased against the
health care reform bill.
I always believed that we should debate the facts as they really are.
First of all I have been reading the actual bill and if an individual opens a small business,
with under 25 employees, that business IS NOT REQUIRED to buy into the plan. If that
business wants to get involved it gets tax credits. It only stands to gain and not lose.
How many of us earn over $250,000.00 a year annualy. If our families do not earn that
much the tax burden does not fall on us.
Yes, there are some taxes that impact large corporations and larger business that could be
catagorized as smaller business.
Yes, younger Americans must enroll in the program eventually. However, for some of us,
the opportunity to afford health care insurance is a plus. Espacially if we own anything that
can be taken away, if we get seriously ill or have an accident that requires hospitalization.
These are just a few of my thoughts on the issue. I respect people that would disagree and I
also believe people shouldn’t necessarily be forced into participating in anything.
38. Tim on March 26th, 2010 10:49 am
Noone I have spoken with, regarding this awful legislation, supports it. On the news sites,
however, there seems to be alot of folks willing to make their snarky little comments in
favor of it. I suspect they are the little Trotskyites being created in our schools and colleges,
people who have yet to realize the true greatness of what was the United States of America.
This could split the nation right down ideological lines, leading to violence and civil war. Is
it worth it? Just to receive dubious drugs for mostly bogus diseases? ADHD, depression
(who wouldn’t be depressed facing the loss of freedom), erectile disfunction, and PMS? I go
to the doctor when I have lacerations or broken bones. I don’t need a bunch of nannies in
DC scheduling my (now mandatory) colonoscopies for me. And I won’t go.
Ever.
39. Warren on March 26th, 2010 1:08 pm
Bunch of bull shit.
Fact is that US, (a larger part of population indoctrinated by politics, hatred and loose-winer
inmfantile mentality) does not have sufficient level of culture to manage universal coverage.
Those idiotic criminals working around just need to increse productivity for hundred
percent. That will result in just 50% of money needed and would make universal coverage
possible on its own.
I came from country with UC and was treated quite well in way ordinary poster her can not
mentally comprehend. Why am I not over there any more? Becouse your country destroyed
it. EOM
40. greg on March 26th, 2010 2:52 pm
Answer me this, all you people ranting about how health care reform will end our way of
life:
Where were you during the Bush administration when our way of life DID end?
Selective (partisan) outrage is not very convincing
41. Right-Wing Links (March 26, 2010) on March 26th, 2010 5:27 pm
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42. AZAAN X on March 26th, 2010 7:33 pm
universal healthcare. just one small step in correcting the past injustices of a dirty, racist,
elitist ameriKKKa.
GO, OBAMA, GO!!!
43. Patriot on March 26th, 2010 10:44 pm
Revolution is the Solution!
44. Magic Dog on March 26th, 2010 11:26 pm
All those 20 things sound good to me, but they’re missing the provision to deny care to
white trash rednecks on meth.
45. Dr. Grumpus on March 27th, 2010 7:07 am
I won’t comment on the whole thing, but point #15 seems a bit disingenuous:
“The government will extract a fee of $2.3 billion annually from the pharmaceutical
industry….Think you, as a pharmaceutical executive, know how to better use that money,
say for research and development? Tough. (Section 9008 (b)).”
Um… Big pharma met with Obama before the whole process started and agreed to this at
the very start. So, well, yeah, I think they accounted for the use of their money.
As for the rest of it, all I can offer is this: Leave it up to the parents, before the child is
conceived, to opt out of public health care.
Or you don’t want to participate? Fine. That means, however, you do not get access to ANY
health services unless you pay for it, and if your money runs out mid-treatment, you get
your sorry ass kicked to the curb. Immediately. Massive internal bleeding? Too bad, so sad.
You want to gamble? Do it on your own dime.
Fortunately, we have a human notion of compassion and sympathy for others, and it must be
accounted for in public policy.
46. Mike on March 27th, 2010 3:56 pm
It seems clear to me that there was no real debate process, and that this so called
‘healthcare’ bill was yet another doublethink document designed to give the appearance of
help, stalling long enough for millions in earmarks to be added, propaghanda to dissuade
criticism, and to figure out how much they were really gonna get away with ‘creating’. Its
not like anyone can read, and if they managed to see a copy of that 2400 page bill, every
section just revises and refers to other sections.. I doubt anybody, senators included, really
knows what the contents of the bill means. But the point, is to keep going! A billion here, a
billion there, our pennies just keep getting smaller.
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28. Bruce Brooker on March 26th, 2010 3:49 am

Universal healthcare in amerika? How progressive.

29. Yig on March 26th, 2010 4:00 am

Think about it…

30. Dale on March 26th, 2010 4:05 am

31. john r on March 26th, 2010 4:29 am

32. ohioriver on March 26th, 2010 6:01 am

33. ohioriver on March 26th, 2010 6:06 am

Read for yourself.

34. hondojkb on March 26th, 2010 6:23 am

35. Mihail on March 26th, 2010 7:25 am

The American Hebrew September 10, 1920:

36. James120756 on March 26th, 2010 7:58 am

37. kzfisch on March 26th, 2010 9:02 am

38. Tim on March 26th, 2010 10:49 am

39. Warren on March 26th, 2010 1:08 pm

Bunch of bull shit.

40. greg on March 26th, 2010 2:52 pm

Selective (partisan) outrage is not very convincing

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42. AZAAN X on March 26th, 2010 7:33 pm

GO, OBAMA, GO!!!

43. Patriot on March 26th, 2010 10:44 pm

Revolution is the Solution!

44. Magic Dog on March 26th, 2010 11:26 pm

45. Dr. Grumpus on March 27th, 2010 7:07 am

46. Mike on March 27th, 2010 3:56 pm