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How to Get Girls to Like You
Written by Decibel
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Preface
Hey fuckers, what's up. What you have before you is a brief primer on how to get girls
to like you. Notice the title isn't How to Get Girls to Fall in Love with You or How to Get
Girls to Fuck You. Those are intermediate and advanced discussions. My intention
when I wrote this book was to simply get girls somewhat attracted to you. If you've
already got more advanced game, then you may still find some useful tips here, but
basically this book is for newbs trying to flee their AFC existence.
I won't cover getting numbers, text or phone game, day 2s or pulling here. Just how to
stop being such a fucking AFC, how to get comfortable being in field, and how to
interact with hot girls. Thinking about the lay or the day 2 will make you outcomeoriented. I want you to only focus on the process of getting attraction.
I'm also not gonna specifically address AMOGs or cock-blocks, winging or logistics.
Those are more advanced concepts.
Please note, what follows are my opinions. Many of you may disagree with my advice,
but it is what I've found works best. Also note, the information here is intended for bar/
club game, not social circle or day game. None of it is speculative; I've extensively
field-tested all the advice I'm laying down. Once in a while I'll give an exercise to help
you work towards your goals; it is always a good idea to have a mission in mind when
heading out into the field. Use mine, or come up with your own, but have something to
work on that will push you out of your comfort zone and improve your skill set.
One thing is certain: this book is a companion to your field work. You MUST get out
into the field and get shit done. If you're just gonna sit at home and read PUA material,
I want you to delete this book from your hard drive immediately and pretend like you
never saw it.
If you want a more comprehensive guide on pick-up and seduction, download my free
ebook PUA Field Guide at PUA Field Guide.com.
I field test various tactics, from openers to LMR. I hold no attachment for any particular
set, coming at it like a scientist in the lab, determined to figure out social dynamics and
how I fit into the matrix.
I take an inner game journey. At first, I was hiding behind routines and an avatar. I
went out and acted like Mystery, Mehow, Brad P, whomever. Necessary at first, but
clearly a way of avoiding putting my real identity on the line. This was gonna take
work.
Love me or hate me, I become determined to just be myself without all the clutter of
routines and accessories. I declutter and simplify my approach, and it's a relief. But it
means being unreactive to what people might think of me. I start asserting myself, go
after what I want, undeterred. Again, lots of tough inner game work.
I read many books, including stuff by David Deida, Eckhart Tolle and a bunch of PU
gurus. It all seeps into my psyche and there's a deep shift.
Most of my epiphanies have been documented somewhere, either on a forum or in my
field guide.
In short, chasing tail takes a backseat to just trying to be normal and at peace with
myself and my life. All the chaos in my life situation still exists, but I now have a
lightness of being. This is the biggest plus so far of being in the community (in addition
to all the new friends I've made).
When I started, I was able to leave all my worries at the door and go into game mode.
But I wanted to BE game, not just do it. So I evolved further.
I no longer sit at home wishing I had friends; I dont ever accept my excuses or
inaction; I stay fully in the moment and outside my head.
I've gotten so much more from being in the game than I'd ever expected when I came
into it. Of course, it's been a rough journey full of tests and disappointments, but the
end result proves it is worth the perseverance. Meeting me now, you would never
believe I was the person I was when I watched that VH1 show. Ive come a long way,
but Ill be the first to admit I have still a ways to go on my journey. Thats ok, I have my
whole life to get this shit sorted out.
dB
February 2009
Table of Contents
Chapter 1
Chapter 2
Why?
Practical Issues
Chapter 3
Chapter 4
Chapter 5
Chapter 6
Chapter 7
Chapter 8
Chapter 9
Chapter 10
Inner Game
Approach Anxiety
Attraction
Value, DHVing and Routines
Frame Control and Qualification
Sexual Intent
Kino, Dominance and Compliance
Putting it All Together
Chapter One
Why?
Why are you reading this book? Why are you even talking to girls? Why are you in the
community? If you can't answer these simple questions, you need to do some soulsearching. Figure out your priorities.
What are you looking for in a woman,
besides a wet hole? Really, how can you
qualify a girl if you have no idea what
character traits are most important to you?
How can you convey to girls your values if
you don't know what they are?
If you hate loud clubs, why do you keep
going to them? If your wing constantly
blows you out, why do you keep sarging
with him? If you're not attracted to 6s, why
do you keep gaming them? If you're not Sit down and write out the answers
getting anywhere with indirect game, why to these questions:
do you keep running it?
1. What makes you a high value man?
The game is ultimately about figuring out Include your career, your hobbies, your
what your core values and beliefs are, and passions, anything you think women
learning how to effectively broadcast them may find attractive.
2. What makes you undesirable?
to the world. Learning how to make all your
Include debt, living with mom,
behaviors
both
conscious
and appearance and so forth.
subconscious congruent with who you 3. What is it you hope to gain both
are. It's also about listening to what the field short and long-term by being in the
is telling you and adjusting your game in community? A social circle, marriage,
response.
fuck buddies?
4. What kind of woman would you
In many cases, the reason you do or don't consider a perfect 10, besides her
do something is weak inner game. If you appearance? May include personality,
avoid mixed sets or super hot girls, then sense of humor, career, education and
life ambitions.
those are sticking points and you need to
address them. Any time you aren't doing something you know you should, ask yourself
why not? If the answer is because it's difficult or painful, then you've uncovered a new
hurdle. You must actively hunt for these and go about overcoming them. The less you
want to do something, the more you must do it. Fear will be one of your greatest
enemies.
Ok. Now do the exercise above. Let's review your answers:
1. What makes you a high value man?
If you don't have a clear understanding of why girls should want to fuck or date you,
how can you ever communicate this to them? If you have a sense of humor, you will
want to monopolize on this by spiking their buying temp. If you have a job that lets you
travel, this is something you can use to convey adventurousness and preselection. If
you have a great physique, you'll want to find clothes that accentuate it. And so on.
2. What makes you undesirable?
Of these traits, determine which are never going to change, which might change a
little, which are reversible with effort, and which might end up being irrelevant.
Something that will never change may be the fact you live with your parents, and can't
afford to get your own place. If that's the case, you need to partly plan logistics in
advance when the time comes to close; maybe you'll bang in your car or at her place.
Something that can change a little includes your height. You can add lifts and make
yourself a little taller, though you may never get to a desirable height like six feet.
Something that will change with effort would be your fashion, your hair or your
physique. And something that is irrelevant is how much money is in your account; you
don't need much money to pull a girl back to her place and bang her...just game.
3. What do you want from the game?
Short-term, it may be to be comfortable talking with girls in nightclubs, or making eye
contact without having to think about it, or being unafraid to kino. Long-term, it may
include having five fuck buddies or one monogamous girlfriend. Your goals may
change as you continue down this journey, so always keep an open mind, and never
live by the standards of others.
4. What do you consider your perfect 10?
When you start out, you may have a buttload of criteria. When I got into the game, I
was looking for a specific age range, hair color, personality, education. Then as I got
more experience under my belt (figuratively and literally), my requirements loosened
up. I started considering smokers, girls in their early 20s, and all races. As I gained
perspective, my beliefs of what was attractive changed.
Don't be overly picky, but do know what you want; this will make it easier to qualify
girls and screen out the ones you wish to avoid.
Chapter Two
Practical Issues
Let's cover a few basic concepts.
Peacocking. Maybe you have a great fashion sensibility, maybe not. Maybe you know
how you want your wardrobe and accessories to reflect your identity, or maybe you
don't. When I got started, my wing told me I resembled Johnny Depp, and so I should
peacock just like him. I gathered some photos online and put together an outfit that
kinda gave a Depp-ish impression. With
time, I felt all the clutter was annoying, and I
needed to simplify. I scaled down to one or
two rings, a bracelet and more upscale
attire.
As you start to go out, figure out what kinds
of clothes and gear will let you stand out
without looking like an ignoramus or too
flashy (the point is not to show off).
Peacocking does not work for all guys. And
many girls are turned off by excessive
peacocking. So try to be tasteful. I would Scout out your city for these venue
often ask girls in bars what they thought types:
about this or that, and I would listen to the
1. Day game. Bookstores, malls. This
consensus. Females do know fashion, so
will allow you to practice verbal game.
take notes if you get free advice.
2. Low-energy night game. Bars and
pubs. This will give you a mix of verbal
Venue selection. After inner game, this is and physical game.
the most important first step you'll make 3. High-energy night game. Loud
along your journey. If you can't learn to dance clubs. This will allow you work
project your voice, or you have low passive on your non-verbal physical game.
value (a short, ugly dude), you're gonna Routinely alternate among these three
have a rough time in loud dance clubs. locations and learn how to calibrate
Maybe start off in low-key bars and lounges your style of game and energy level for
that particular venue.
to get your footing. Otherwise the frustration
will drive you from the game. Test out
various locations and see what fits your personality.
Keep in mind that dark venues are more intimate and may permit easier escalation.
Brightly lit venues may have the opposite effect. Other factors to keep in mind: most
places allow smoking which might irritate you if you don't smoke; it is hard to get the
attention of someone engrossed in a performance; dancing spikes BT and may help
you pull; high male:female ratios may mean more AMOGs to deal with; high-end
venues may be harder to get into but also have hotter girls.
Drinking. I do drink a bit now when I go out, but at first I avoided all alcohol. Your
game will be sloppy, you'll miss out on a girl's subtle IOIs and IODs, your responses
will be poorly conceived and executed, and opportunities will pass you by. Learning a
skill of any kind requires your full presence. So don't drink when you go out. Once
you've gotten these skills internalized, it's ok to loosen up and get a little tipsy. If you're
totally drunk, your end game may suffer.
Sarge schedule. I used to go out 7 nights a week when I started. Then I cut back to 5.
Then when I was using up $150 a week on gas, I had to reduce it to 2-3 nights. Any
less than 3 nights a week will not allow much progress to occur.
Lots of guys go on sarge-a-thons, where they devote 10 or more consecutive nights to
going out. These sarge-a-thons can shave a lot of time off the learning process. You
find yourself in state constantly after a while, AA drops, you stop caring as much.
The flip side is your job, friends and family may suffer. You may find it hard to keep
your eyes open at work or on the drive home the next night. So be careful and realize
there are risks to hardcore sarging. Some of the casualties of the sarge for my first
year included blisters on my feet, fungus between my toes, getting my car towed late
at night, getting speeding and parking tickets and spending money on parking, gas,
venue admission and drinks.
Always remember this: no time in field is a waste of time. Even if you think you aren't
progressing, just getting out of your house and into the company of women is a huge
step that most dudes never take.
Debriefing. After every night I sit down and think about each set, good and bad. I
would either write things down on my computer, or on one of the forums I belonged to,
or I'd run things through in my mind. Debriefing is critical. You need to honestly
evaluate all the shit you did or should've done. If you find you're making excuses, you
need to correct that. If you missed opportunities, you need to come up with a plan so it
doesn't happen again. If you had successes, then figure out how to make those
happen again with consistency.
If you have wings, it helps to debrief at a diner or someone's car. Never analyze your
sets in the venue. Your state will drop and you'll stop approaching. Don't even talk
about game in the venue. Unless it's a very quick comment like hey, you keep saying
cunt and I think girls are getting offended. Certain real-time suggestions are useful.
Wings. Your wing is there to bring up your game. If you need to isolate a girl, that's
where your wing should swoop in and help. I have tons of information on winging in
the Field Guide, so I'm not covering it here.
In fact, I would consider the use of a wing to be an intermediate tactic. I have often
seen bad winging cause a guy's progress to come to a halt or to derail a particular
pick-up. I also know many guys who use their wing as a crutch, and can't sarge
without him.
So unless your wing is motivated, sociable and a team-player, I would seriously
consider going solo. That doesn't mean you have to go out every night by yourself,
though you should definitely be comfortable doing it. What I'm saying is you and your
wings can work a venue together while being in different sets. Never be dependent on
a wing to try to attract women. If a wing is fucking up your game, stop relying on him.
You should be able to isolate or mini-isolate a target and game her without the help of
a wing. If you can't, it's nobody's fault but your own. Having a wing is a luxury, not a
necessity.
Us vs them. Don't give into the notion that it is men versus women out there. It's not.
Women want to get laid as much as you do. There is no battle, just the one that
popular media has fabricated. Women will act like bitches or give you objections, but
look past these and understand the psychology behind those defenses. Take the high
road and help them get what they want. There is no us vs them.
Premature ejectulation. Newbs will often eject on a high note, or if there is the
slightest challenge. Adam Lyons calls this premature ejectulation. If a girl is giving you
a hard time and you get intimidated, you eject. If you run out of things to say, you eject.
If you feel like she's attracted you won't want that validation to end, and you eject.
None of these are valid reasons to leave a set. If you find yourself leaving a set too
soon for whatever reason, break this habit. Embed yourself into the set and try to
close. I would often tell my wings who made excuses, there are only two reasons not
to close a girl: you don't have a condom, or your zipper is stuck.
Running lots of sets per night. When starting out, you want to gather a bunch of
reference experiences to help reinforce your new-found reality. And so you leap from
set to set, opening 1000 or more over the course of a year.
This has advantages. You will lose AA quicker. You will be able to field-test tactics on a
larger sample size. You will hear many responses you hadn't heard before, including
shit tests and IODs. These will toughen you up and make you less surprised the next
time around.
The disadvantage is sometimes you will get genuine attraction and still eject to open
another set. Or sometimes the attraction is dormant and all you need to do is plow a
bit.
Open lots of sets. But if a girl is hot and you want to pursue her, then by all means stay
in set. Even if it's the first set of the night. Your goal here is to get laid. Don't expect it
to happen in the first year since cold approach is a tough skill to master. But if the
opportunity arises, you should push the interaction as far as it'll go.
The bigger point I want to make is this: make a decision about who you are, right now.
Are you a sociable guy? Or are you a reformed AFC who is defective and trying to
cross over into PUA-ville. Sociable men
don't count sets. They just enter a venue
and chat with everyone; it is what they do
and who they are. AFCs count sets,
because they are not yet convinced of their
new persona.
Don't be a broken AFC. That is looking
backwards. Be a sociable guy. Look forward
at your ideal personality. Stop counting sets.
It reinforces the old persona.
Building a social circle. Some girls aren't
attracted to you, some are unattractive to
you, some have serious LTRs and don't
want to cheat. Rather than write off these
girls, I want you to start constructing a social
circle of women. Game them, but don't
escalate or telegraph intent. Get their
numbers and then once or twice a week
when you're out invite them out with you.
Rolling in a pack of girls will make your job
in the venue much easier.
Chapter Three
Inner Game
There is a lot of airy fairy shit on the market dealing with inner game. Truth be told, I've
read or watched only a handful of products having to do with inner game. I've never
heard Tony Robbins speak, I've never browsed the self-help section of the local
bookstore, I've never gone to a seminar on self-confidence.
That being said, inner game for most guys including myself is the absolute key to
being successful with women. It is the make-or-break factor when you look at
approaching, escalating and closing. It is the ability to turn off or to keep at bay that
little voice in your head reminding you of your shortcomings and failures.
So I'm now gonna discuss some of the most important components of inner game.
Your ego and your identity
Your ego is an evil and unnecessary maniac that wants to destroy you. The ego must
die.
What is the ego? When another guy who gets laid a lot more than you tells you you're
doing something wrong in field, and you blow him off, that's your ego.
When you don't approach the hottest girl in the venue because you think she might
reject you, that's your ego.
When you try to impress or seek the validation of other PUAs, that's your ego.
Being controlled by the ego will never permit growth and maturity. You must ignore the
ego, and instead embrace rejection, humiliation, humility and the cold reality that you
are not nearly as good as you think you are.
If you can't do this, you have a very long road ahead of you.
If you were to strip away the ego, underneath is your true identity. Let's say your
religious upbringing has dealt you a ton of guilt over sex, and so you project the
facade that you are pious and asexual. Meanwhile, underneath that, you truly love to
fuck random women. Then you must strip away the outer layers which are stopping
you from being who you really are, and accept the true identity underneath.
Naturally, this takes a lot of painful work, undoing years of conditioning, but it must be
done. Begin the process of honest soul-searching, and never stop. Be true to your
core values and beliefs. Always.
I want you to be good with women, an alpha male, a high-value man. What does this
kind of person look like? How do they walk and talk? You have no idea. Maybe you
can get a sense of it from watching old Brando interviews. But as an AFC, you
probably have no clue where to begin.
If that's the case, I recommend emulating various men, and seeing how it feels. Try out
Mystery, Mehow, Brad P. Try out Harrison Ford, Bogart, Brad Pitt. Yeah, you may feel
totally incongruent acting like these people, and others may interpret this as creepy.
That's ok. We're going on a fishing expedition for your new identity. Eventually, you will
drop all these acts and just be yourself.
But for now, it's ok to try on different faces until you find the one women respond to.
Outcome vs process
To get good at any skill, you must be process-oriented. If you focus on the outcomes,
you will never gain mastery. Have one eye on where you want to be, but enjoy and
learn from the process of getting there. That is the only way.
Many guys won't fuck a girl who is average-looking though fuck-worthy. This is
because she's not a 10. What they are missing out on is the learning that comes with
banging that 7. She may give you LMR which allows you to work past that sticking
point. She may decide to call up her girlfriend and invite you to a threesome. You may
have some new logistical problems to solve in order to close her.
The point is, try to think of each girl in terms of how will this possibly improve my skill
set. Never get attached to a girl. They are all building blocks to help progress you
along your journey. It sounds cruel and impersonal, but if you do get emotionally
attached to every girl, you will never achieve mastery. Be honest with women; let them
know they you are not the kind of guy whom they should get attached to (they won't
listen, but at least you're acting through integrity).
The outcomes will begin to occur if you honor the process. However the process may
not improve if you're busy focusing on the outcomes.
Crutches
There is nothing wrong with using crutches to get you by, as long as they don't hinder
your progress. Alcohol is a crutch which hinders you. A reliable wing may be a crutch
which can help you.
disingenuous. When you genuinely vibe, youre being congruent. When youre running
a bunch of lines that arent relevant to what shes saying or thinking, or what your true
intentions are with her, you dont seem congruent.
b. Have a good time. If you are acting alpha, but you still reek of fear, your subcoms
will give you away. So stop fearing and enjoy every interaction. Dont think about the
outcomes; focus on the process.
c. Get out of your head. When youre drunk, words comes out of your mouth unfiltered.
Same for when youre in your car singing at the top of your lungs. Youre in the
moment, not analyzing everything. You therefore communicate from your core. Learn
to do this always.
The alpha mindset
Women are drawn towards the alpha persona and repelled away from betas. There
are ways to appear alpha:
1. Acquire immunity to social proof. (See above)
2. Dominate. (Refer to Chapter 9)
3. Practice frame control. (Refer to Chapter 7)
4. Be unafraid to break rapport. (See above)
5. Spread out. An alpha treats every venue almost like his living room.
a. Take up room. Let your arms hang over adjacent chairs.
b. Be loud, but not so loud that it seems youre trying to call
attention to yourself.
c. Have open, vulnerable body language. Not only are you taking
up space with your hands on your hips, but with your legs spread
apart when standing, you show youre unafraid of taking one in the
balls.
6. Gain (or enter with) social proof.
a. Roll in with a posse.
b. Make friends in the venue. Merge sets, be a social butterfly.
c. Use pivots, pawns and female wings.
7. Be congruent. (See above)
8. Be self-confident. Destroy your ego. Alphas have confidence in
themselves. They dont let their egos run amok. If you hear yourself
bragging, make it stop. If youre not pushing yourself outside your comfort
zone because your crew/your friends/your wings might think less of you,
recognize it and then push yourself even harder. Ego will subvert your
self-confidence. Its counterproductive and decidedly un-alpha.
miscalibrated or even offensive. When you're just starting out, and you are concerned
about the outcomes of each set, you will stifle and repress those thoughts in an
attempt to DHV.
And yes, when you DLV you will lose that
set. But stop thinking about the outcomes.
Think about the process. And the process of
getting good at the game requires that you
unstifle.
The truth is nobody gives a fuck except you.
Boom boom boom. My reality kept expanding. Things that were once foreign became
commonplace. The scary became mundane. This is inevitable if you stay in the game.
Always be leaning towards your fears, expanding your reality to bring in new beliefs.
Though you should focus on these positive reference experiences, you will come
across negative reference experiences. At one point it seemed like no matter what I
did in set, girls flaked. The reference experience became: if you go out and sarge you
will not get a solid number.
But ignore those negative reference experiences, and chalk them up to part of the
learning process. Focus solely on the positive experiences. Realize that this will
probably be a very bumpy road for you, full of setbacks, disappointments and
rejection. Remember, whatever doesn't kill you will make you stronger.
Chapter Four
Approach Anxiety
AA is a bitch in high heels. Until you conquer it, you won't be able to fully explore all
the other aspects of game. Tons of openers are available online and in my Field
Guide. However, while openers give you a jump-start into the conversation, they also
make you think that how you open matters.
And so you think about the opener, delay the approach, and allow your AA to build.
The truth is, it doesn't matter how you open. Truthfully. And in the overall arc of
seduction, the opener represents less than 1%. So forget about how you open. Just
have something you can use from set to set, as simple as hey, how's your Friday
night going?
Figure out how bad your AA is using the scale below. Are you able to order food from a
smoking hot waitress, or do you get intimidated and let it affect your eye contact and
tonality? Can you stroll into a clothes store and flirt with the hired gun? Can you
already work a room full of beautiful women, without missing a beat?
When I got into the community, I could do none of these things. I had the worst fucking
AA and had to create drills for myself. I pushed myself hard past my AA, day after day
and night after night. When you set out to get rid of AA, you must do it at least 3 days
or nights a week for a few hours or more, every week until it's gone. Stopping for even
a couple weeks will allow the AA to creep back. Keep at it until it fades into the
background.
Review this scale and determine how bad your AA is:
0. (No AA) The Master. This guy can enter any venue, work the room so everyone
loves him, and get solid attraction from the hottest girls. Not only does he not have AA,
but he can see the matrix and use sets strategically to up his social proof and
preselection.
1. The Beast. You may hear people say that guy is a fucking BEAST in field! Though
he isn't as strategic as the Master, he has no AA when going after his targets. He'll
open anyone and anywhere. He has no hesitation or fear and is very dominant. He
loves to socialize.
2. The Birthday Boy. Slightly less sociable compared to the Beast, though happy to
socialize with every set. If you were to look at him, you'd think it were his birthday. He's
not as aggressive as the Beast, and so his results aren't as good. But he is clearly
having a great time confidently working the room, just like the host of his own party.
3. Rico Suave. He doesn't open as many sets as the Birthday Boy. He hesitates,
scans the room, thinks about which sets he wants to open. When he does open, he is
effective. He relies on precision, opening a few high quality sets.
4. The PUA. This guy calls himself a PUA, and he takes pride in the title. He is in his
head much more than Rico. He is running through openers and routines, analyzing
sets. And while he is busy strategizing, his state is dropping and his AA is rising. Still,
he can get it back under control and open. He never lets his AA overwhelm him.
5. The Drunk. Put this guy in a room of hotties sober, and he probably won't open. But
get him tanked and he's Mr. Sociable. He has a ton of AA underneath, but he selfmedicates and so he manages to open a few cute sets.
6. The Ug Chaser. He wants to talk to hot girls, but they scare him shitless. And so he
takes the path of least resistance and only talks to ugly girls. He gets their numbers
and may even pull them. But he feels dissatisfied because he knows his AA is getting
the better of him.
7. The Excuse Guy. He will open a select few sets. If you ask why he won't open
more, he's got a list of excuses, from she's not hot enough to she's with her
boyfriend to she's busy texting. In reality, it's his AA that is stopping him from
opening.
8. The Kamikaze. This guy looks like a wild-eyed suicide bomber when he
approaches. You can literally smell him shit his pants as he begins the long death
march to the set in front of him. Because he reeks of fear, he self-destructs.
9. (Paralyzing AA) The Inmate. These guys stand along the edge of the dance floor or
along the bar, holding drinks in front of them. This is called death row, and these are its
inmates. These guys absolutely won't talk to any girls. They would instantly vaporize if
they even tried.
Look, AA may seem like a mighty and insurmountable hurdle when you first start out,
but many guys have beat it, and you can too. It'll require dedication and the fortitude to
deal with the agony of pushing yourself into 1000s of sets. But when it does become
manageable, it'll no longer plague you the rest of your life. It'll be like having a newfound super-power.
It helps to have energetic wings who have
little AA. They can open sets with you and
pump your state. This is not a long-term
solution, though it is an acceptable shortterm crutch. Don't hang out with guys who
are as anxious or more so than you; they
will only bring your state down, strike up
distracting conversations with you, and keep
you from opening. Don't contribute to the
formation of chode crystals.
So the main way to get over AA is to keep
Perform these drills to help get over
approaching. There are a lot of other
your AA:
options out there including daily affirmations
1. Find all the malls within driving and hypnosis, but I find most of that is crap.
distance, and three nights a week, go There really is no substitute for going out
to them. Spend an hour or two going and opening. You can give your wing some
from store to store chatting with the money and have him pay you back for every
hired guns. Even if you have to ask set you open; this again is a short-term
something weird like do you have solution. You can't do this night after night
cowboy
hats?
just
strike
up
for the next year.
conversations.
Get
advice
on
peacocking.
2. Go to a club or bar by yourself, and In short, nobody can push you into sets
allow yourself to become comfortable except you. You must do it. Put one foot in
simply people-watching. Allow all front of the other, open your mouth, and
sense of anxiety to leave you, and make some words come out. Go to the
really have a good time self-amusing.
bathroom to change your underwear. Rinse
3. Walk through a club and say hi to and repeat.
all the girls. You can keep talking, or
you can simply walk onto the next set.
The other big help in overcoming AA is to
4. When you check out at the grocery
develop a routine stack or tree. When you
store, go to the hottest check-out girl
know where each interaction will go for the
and ask her something lame like hey,
first couple of minutes, this reduces your
how are the tomatoes here?
5. When you need something at a AA. Much of the fear of opening is the fear
restaurant (like more napkins), go find of the unknown. Diving into set is like
leaping into a cold pool. With a bunch of
the hottest waitress and ask her for it.
routines at your disposal, you at least know
you have a rubber raft you can climb onto for a short while. It's another reassuring
crutch you can rely on while you're working on your AA. Eventually you'll probably
A routine tree, however, flows according to her responses, so she feels like she is
investing. A tree may look something like this:
For example, you open with Hey guys, let me get your opinion on something...
Response A may be a shit test: OMG, you're not one of those pick-up artists are
you? That would send you off to routine A, which would be your shit test response.
Your shit test response may lead to laughter and acceptance, in which case it's safe to
go back to your opener. Or your shit test response may lead to another shit test, in
which case you would have a new shit test response. And so on.
Back up. You say Hey guys, let me get your opinion on something... They say okay!
That response has you continue with the opener, which asks an opinion. They give
their opinion. If it is opinion A, you stack into a response or a new routine that is
relevant to their opinion. If they go with opinion B, you stack into a response
appropriate for that opinion.
Let's say you open with FMK:
You: Hey I saw you guys standing over here playing FMK.
HBs: Huh?
You: Fuck marry kill. Never heard of it? Ok, I point to a guy in the bar and you tell me
if you'd fuck him, marry him, or kill him. Ok...that guy!
HBs: Kill!!! (response A)
You: OMG, you guys are feisty! You can be my bodyguards. I'm always getting
mauled by girls when I go out to clubs. I could use a couple chicks to beat them off
me. (future project, role playing, check out their guns, et cetera)
or
HBs: Fuck!!! (response B)
You: I knew it! Women are all sexual predators! (TD's sexual predator routine)
or
HBs: Marry!!! (response C)
You: WTF? That guy?! Come on, girls. You can do better than that! Alright, let's make
a deal. Tonight I'm gonna find you guys a coupla sugar daddies! Next time I see you,
you'll be all blinged out... (future project, play with their jewelry, et cetera).
The routine tree is much more fluid and natural than the stack. But you must prepare
for every contingency. So you go out with an opener, run it a dozen times, and make
note of the most common responses. Then you think about the best ways to respond
to each of those responses (you want to go with funny, sexy or kino). Then field test all
those responses, and figure out where you can branch out into a new routine.
Continue doing this until you have a few minutes worth of material.
Having the first few minutes of any interaction all mapped out will reduce your AA. It'll
give you the confidence of knowing that no matter what the set throws at you, you'll be
prepared with something good. This will generate attraction while spiking BT, and it'll
give you the boost you need to keep opening. Over time, you'll reduce your reliance on
the routine tree, but for now trust in it. People will try to discourage you from using
routines, but it really is a good safety net to have in place when starting out.
Again, refer to my ebook, PUA Field Guide for the chapter on routines, and select the
ones that are most congruent with your personality.
Somewhere in your tree you need to move your girl. You can mini-isolate after you
open, but physically moving a girl around in a venue by her hand amps up attraction
while reducing her ASD (anti-slut defense). The palmistry routine I discuss in Chapter
6 involves isolation; I ask about her zodiac sign, start the palm read, and then say it's
too dark. I use that as bait and an excuse to sit her down in isolation somewhere else.
If you aren't fully isolating your targets, you're missing out on a powerful tool.
The take-home message of this chapter is this:
Do whatever you need to do (short of drinking) to get your AA under control.
If you can't work past your AA, you won't get anywhere in the game.
It's gonna be painful, but this is not an optional step.
Chapter Five
Attraction
Your goal out of all this introductory stuff is to get girls attracted to you. Most of the
time when you simply approach and fluff talk with a girl, it isn't enough to generate
attraction. In fact, most girls will give you absolutely no credit for being ballsy enough
to open. The sad truth is, it is a given that men approach women and try to hit on
them. Though the burden is always on men to do all the work, you will get no brownie
points for trying, only ridicule and contempt if you fail.
So realize this is an uphill battle, where you will be the only person cheering for you.
Whether you succeed in getting attraction is reliant solely on you: the content of your
speech, your delivery, your subcoms, your ability to telegraph intent, et cetera.
All girls accept the role of passive spectator in the game, while you must always
assume the role of active participant. This is a key rule. Never forget it. Once you
expect a girl to initiate or take responsibility, she will usually resist. Approach, stimulate
attraction, ask for phone numbers, set up the day 2, close. Do all this work yourself.
When you get signs that a girl likes you, we call them IOIs (indicators of interest).
These may include her playing with her hair (a reliable sign), touching you or stopping
to talk to you after you open.
While old school pick-up tells you to look for IOIs and count them, here comes a
game-changing moment for you:
is or not. Consider all objections token, and plow past them. It is a girl's job to throw
out objections and hurdles to seduction. None of these mean that she isn't interested
in sleeping with you, and in fact may mean she truly is. As you gain experience, your
ability to plow will improve. Again, I refer you to The Way of the Superior Man for
further discussion of this.
When you consider all the false IODs and sketchy IOIs girls can throw your way, you
begin to see why the only two IOIs that matter are the ones I listed.
So, instead of waiting around for IOIs, a better mindset is to assume attraction. When
you walk into a set, just assume the girls are already attracted. This is from my
archives:
Assumptions
Usually people say when you assume you make an ass of u and me.
Harhar. While that might be true in the business world, in PU, it isn't.
In fact, making assumptions - positive assumptions - will only help your
progress. They may hurt your individual sets, but as you move your focus
away from the outcomes and towards the process, positive assumptions
will only help. Negative assumptions will always hinder you.
Assuming attraction is only one example of a positive assumption. Others
are:
She wants me to make out with her
She wants me to pull her to my car and fuck her
She mentions her boyfriend only as a shit test, but actually wants to pull
All girls in the club are there to get laid, no matter what they say
You can end any of the above with..."obviously!!"
Negative assumptions:
Girls won't like me because I'm bald/short/fat/pimply
I live too far away and girls won't drive out there to see me just for sex
I'll need to have money/a good car/go to the gym 5 times a week
She won't be attracted until I run my DHV stack
Another term for these is 'limiting beliefs.' Guys who get really good often
have a delusional belief system. Their reality seems delusional to outside
observers, but it is so friggin strong that women can't help but be sucked
into it. The one with the stronger reality wins, and all reality is subjective.
Recall, people held on bitterly to the reality that the earth was flat.
So if you approach a set with a negative assumption like I need to
demonstrate my value and then test out compliance to see if it's ok to
escalate you will set up a self-fulfilling prophecy which will blow you out.
Maybe a particular set or series of sets will be ok with this mindset, but
again that is outcome-dependent thinking. Process-focused thinking
doesn't care what happens in a set; it wants what will get your overall
skillset on the track to mastery. And it ain't this sorta stinkin thinkin.
But now approach with the positive assumption of I don't need to
demonstrate value; I AM value. Girls love me...obviously!! I just need to
assume attraction and then figure out if she's up to my standards.
Yes, this may not get you into a lot of sets...at first.
But a funny thing happens when you maintain this mindset. Over time,
you start to believe it, internalize it, live it. It becomes congruent. Your
subcoms all fall into place with that of a high-value man (assuming your
verbal game is also that of high value, not douchebag). Sets
open...literally reward this mindset.
You may tell yourself, I can assume attraction and keep telling myself I'm
attractive, but I just don't believe it down deep.
But here you're using two terms interchangeably: belief and assumption.
You believe in God. That's more than assumption, it is who you are. At
this point, I'm just asking you to assume, not believe.
You will acquire belief through positive reference experiences. Keep
assuming that attraction is there and keep opening. Your bad subcoms
will correct with practice and self-analysis. You may need advice from
wings or professionals, but eventually as your epiphanies accrue there
will be a transformation.
In summary, looking for IOIs is old school. It's beta and reactive.
Assuming attraction is alpha. You may crash and burn a lot at first, but
you will autocorrect and gain calibration skills with field experience,
honest introspection of your sticking points, and dissolution of your ego.
Of course, being a total douche and trying to assume attraction while
ignoring the fact that most sets aren't receptive is not what I'm talking
about here. Always humble yourself to the field.
In her head, SA looks like: Oh, ok, he seems cool and sexy. Alright, I'll see what he's
about. Maybe a shit test or two.
In DA, it looks like this: BACK OFF BITCHES! This one is MINE!
In SA, she wants to test you to see what you're made of. In DA, she wants you to
make out with her hard.
Compliance testing is a mediocre way to look at her depth of attraction. As long as it is
dampened by ASD or other factors, it isn't pure or totally reliable. But when a girl gets
pissed off because you were chatting with another girl, or when she can't keep her
hands off of you, it's hard to argue with that evidence.
What my superficial attraction game consists of is coupling moderate kino IOIs with
moderate verbal IODs. Other methods have a comfort phase, but mine doesn't. I run
attraction until the close, trying to keep BT up. Once you drop BT by going into
comfort, it is easy to lose the set. Some girls will ask for more comfort, so in those
cases oblige briefly and do some basic vibing, but then snip and stack into some kino
or another BT-spiking thread.
Example:
HB: So why did you choose to be a lawyer.
PUA: Because it's really stimulating intellectually...why did you choose to be a singer?
HB: (blah blah blah)
PUA: (eye fucks her) You're so fucking adorable...come here! (hug and kiss)
Ok, now we're gonna work on your superficial attraction game.
The elements of the SA phase are:
1. Buying temperature (BT) spiking, which may include teasing, kino, sexualizing
and humor.
2. Loads of proximity and kino.
3. Verbal IODs, including disqualifiers and negs.
You want to fry her circuits by coupling verbal IODs with physical IOIs. Your body is
saying you want her, but your words are saying you're not sure or are disinterested.
You want to maintain the baseline of seductive and sensual, but you want to have
numerous BT spikes.
On the following page are a few graphs to illustrate the concept of energy level. Let's
take a look at these graphs, which plot time in set on the x-axis and energy level on
the y-axis. The blue line is the PUA, the pink is the set.
The top graph represents the low-energy chode. He enters well below the energy level
of the set, makes idle fluff talk that goes nowhere, and winds up bringing the set's
energy level down a bit (though not totally to his level, since they aren't invested in
him). Eventually his own energy level drops
as his state is affected by the set's poor
response to him. He then goes and sits in a
dark corner by himself, further resenting all
women.
Alright, the middle graph. This is the dancing
monkey entertainer guy. He enters the set
way above its energy level, and he holds it
there. He briefly brings the energy level of
the set up since he is amusing to them. But
eventually he wears them down and they
lose interest. Their own energy level drops a
bit, and they eject. The dancing monkey's
energy remains high since that is who he is.
Nonreactive to others, but in a way that
doesn't help his game.
Finally, let's look at the bottom graph. This is
how the game should be played. Notice the
PUA enters at an energy level that is slightly
above that of the set, and spikes frequently.
His spikes generate BT spikes in the set. As
time progresses, the spikes get less
frequent, and are unpredictable. Once he's
got the energy level up a bit, he gradually
brings it down. He controls it, with the level
of the set following suit. Notice he doesn't
want the baseline to drop completely, nor
does he want it too high. A seductive
baseline needs to be lower than the party
vibe he entered on, but not so low that they
lose interest and wander off.
So that's the big picture on energy level. Now let's zero in on those BT spikes. There
are numerous ways to get a girl's BT up, but these are always illogical and emotional.
Getting into a heated political debate tends not to do it. Smacking her ass or teasing
her about her choice of words will do it.
Avoid logical threads at all costs. Logic won't make girls horny, unless you're laying out
a sexual foundation. Learn to speak girl. When you speak girl, you can leap from one
topic to another without a logical transition. You can hold emotionally charged
conversations that seem to be about nothing important, but maintain her interest. You
can create inane future projections and do silly role-playing that the set will gobble up.
Whenever you spike BT, she will be more inclined to comply. Things that spike BT:
1. Chick crack. Do some cold read, including strawberry fields, the cube or
palmistry.
2. Tricking her. 5 Questions game by Style usually spikes BT at the end since it
tricks her. Search for the YouTube video demonstrating this.
3. Teasing her.
4. Making her laugh.
5. Kino.
6. Dancing.
Check out the appendix in my Field Guide
by The Judge on how to be funny. Note
however that jokes per se typically will fail. A
joke establishes the frame that you are
there trying to amuse her. Women find this
unattractive. You must always be selfamusing...the evil clown. If you say
something humorous, it is done to give
yourself a chuckle. The response of the set Do these BT-spiking exercises in
is irrelevant to you (other than it rewards set:
you to bring value to people).
Ask her if she's ticklish, then tickle her.
Those are mostly verbal tactics to spike BT. Do Style's 5 Questions game.
Equally important are physical methods. Run my palmistry routine from Ch. 6
Women love to be touched, and being Open by teasing her about some
accessory (a belt, a purse, a hat).
touchy-feely will almost always be
Example: Look at you, rockin the
appreciated, especially if you are coupling it poodle purse!
with verbal value.
For example, if you approach a set and start touching them while saying you guys are
dressed up like little whores or when are you bitches gonna buy me a drink? you
probably won't get a favorable reaction. But if you approach with the exact same kino
and say Jeez, it looks like an episode of Girls Gone Wild over here! it may get a
better response.
For kino to be well-received and spike BT, you must also have good subcoms (eye
contact, relaxed facial expressions, confident body language, et cetera) AND you must
offer some verbal value. Then escalation becomes quite easy. At most, a girl may back
away from you slowly (especially if her husband or boyfriend is near-by), but they
won't respond with harsh IODs. In short, when done well, kino is very attractive. See
Chapter 9 for more information.
Now, the problem with using a lot of kino is it telegraphs massive IOIs to the target. If
you also are telling her verbally how much you like her, there is a good chance she'll
become disinterested. Women like to be challenged. This is classic cat-string theory.
To offset your physical IOIs, you must send out verbal IODs during your SA phase.
There are many ways to do this, but it should be done quite often at first, and then
tapered down considerably as you enter DA. Ways to IOD include negs, qualifiers,
disqualifiers, time constraints, and various other IODs (mentioning your girlfriend,
trying to set her up with another guy in the venue, and so on).
While negs are effective disqualifiers, if done without the needed calibration skills, they
will back-fire. I therefore consider the neg an intermediate tactic and don't recommend
newbs try to use them.
I am not going to cover the comfort phase. I believe having rapport is a good thing, but
I want you to spend your nights in attraction. Learn how to speak girl. Get good at
spiking BT and using it to gain compliance. Comfort tends to lower BT and
compliance, so I don't consider it necessary until after sex.
Chapter Six
Value, DHVing and Routines
There is a long-standing debate in the community as to whether it's better to stack
routines, or go with natural vibing. Nevermind the debate, and let's work on improving
your ability to DHV with the help of routines.
First, the concept of value. This is a term that gets thrown around a lot. When you
approach a set, you may give value or take value. Or the interaction may be totally
value-free. Here are some examples:
1. Value-giving. Walk up to a set and
amuse them. They will laugh at your
jokes. You've just brought the energy
of the set up and have asked nothing
in return.
2. Value-taking. Walk up to a girl and
ask her to buy you a drink. You will
probably get rejected. You have just
asked for value from the set and
offered nothing in return.
3. No value exchange. Make fluff-talk
with a set. Talk about the weather, the
Read David Deida's The Way of the
lighting in the venue, what they're
Superior Man.
He gives a lot of advice on
drinking, etc. Don't be funny or clever.
relationships, and some may not yet
Watch how the energy level drops
pertain to you, though it is interesting.
until you start getting IODs.
Focus instead of Deida's explanations
of what it means to possess the Value is something you should be giving out
masculine polarity, and how it differs
at all times, whether it be by complimenting
from the feminine polarity. Also
understand and internalize the concept a girl's fashion or vibe, giving kino, or flirting.
Some girls will not be at all receptive. They
of giving your gift (aka value).
Adopt the mindset that you will go into will back-turn and walk away, take out their
the world and give value, regardless of cell phones, tell you to shove off, start
whether those you interact with are talking to each other and ignore you. These
receptive to it or not.
blow-outs will happen less and less as
This is one of the most important your game improves. But for now, accept
concepts you will learn.
that they will happen, and that you must be
b. Compliment. Don't do it in an AFC way. Don't say, I just wanted to come over here
and tell you your calves are really hot. Don't say, Nice tattoo! Pure chode. Your
compliments should be a bit sincere, a bit playful. It's just meant to be bait to give her
some validation and let her know you might be interested in getting to know her more.
c. Engage the entire set. Don't consider her friends obstacles. They are only
obstacles if they actively try to stop you. Otherwise, in the absence of such evidence,
they are your proponents. Befriend them, guys and girls, and make them allies.
d. Don't have an agenda. See my discussion on intent without agenda in Chapter 8.
Girls like to be seduced, but they don't appreciate being gamed. Just be a warm,
sociable, fun guy, self-amusing but also happy to elevate the mood of others.
e. Make the set laugh. If you don't have a natural sense of humor, dig into the
routines vault and memorize some ticklers to use when a lull approaches. Never seem
like you're trying to make people laugh, because then you become the dancing
monkey.
In the ideal situation, there will be value-pinging. That is, you tell her something and
she tells you a bit of information of comparable value. You kino her, and she kinos
back. She jumps through your hoops, and vice versa. You always want a girl investing
more than you to begin with, but ultimately you want a fair exchange of value.
Here is the other side of the equation: girls must invest in the interaction and offer
value to you. If you are doing all the investment, she is either not attracted or has no
value to offer. Some girls simply can't keep up their own in a conversation or have
nothing of value to contribute. It's up to you as to whether you want to keep plowing in
these cases. But don't let your ego tell you that you must continue to try gaming a hard
set because surrender is a reflection of your skill. If girls aren't giving back value, then
fuck em. Eject and go find girls who are worthy of your time, who appreciate a highvalue man.
It is important to demonstrate high value (DHV) to women. Don't do this to impress
them, and have no particular goal in mind. Simply DHV because that is how high value
men instinctively behave. They know no other way of behaving. Whether the room, the
set or the girl takes notice of this should be unimportant; trying to actively DHV is a
reactive mindset and something to avoid.
So. Here are the steps to becoming a man who naturally demonstrates high value:
Step One: Stop demonstrating low value.
Step Two: Use outer game to project high value.
Step Three: Develop your inner game to the point that it will by itself
demonstrate high value, and then only use outer game strategically to
think about it. You never peck; it's no longer a behavior of yours.
Review the exercise on bad habits on the last page, and figure out where you stand
with each. In some cases, you may not know and may need to ask a wing to watch
you in set. For each of these habits, you will now begin the process of moving towards
UC. Your habits will disappear and your subcoms will click into place with months of
discipline and training.
The next thing to work on includes your verbal DLVs. All the unattractive things you
say to people that may convey low self-esteem, lack of confidence, negativity or a load
of other unpleasant attributes.
Examples of verbal DLVs
Complaining
This venue is too loud.
The drinks here are too expensive.
This is like the only good club in this city.
I hate smokers.
My friends dragged me out tonight.
I'm not feeling the vibe here.
I'd buy my friend a drink but he still owes me 20 bucks.
This place is a sausage fest.
Self-flagellation
It was hard to get in this club. They only let cute people in.
Yeah, it sucks being short.
I don't drink because I'm poor as fuck.
My back is killing me. I have a bad back.
I'll take what I can get. I haven't gotten laid in months.
I should lose about 20 pounds but I have no will power.
Depressing
My dog died last month.
I'm afraid to travel since 9/11.
It's hard finding work. I kinda wish I never went into this career.
Did you see the news today about that kid that got shot?
Anytime I try to exercise I wind up hurting myself.
Seeking rapport
Oh you like soup? I love soup too!
Awww, you had a bad day. Let me buy you a drink.
Bragging
I'm friends with the club owner so I get in free.
George Clooney is a member of my country club.
I had to go to Italy to buy these shoes but it was worth it.
In general, avoid the word hate when you talk to people. Eventually when your
subcoms click, you can get away saying anything. But for now, avoid loaded words
that convey hostility or a negative view.
Your energy level must be appropriate to the venue and the set. Refer to the previous
chapter on energy level. If you're too energetic, you'll come across as the dancing
monkey or entertainer. Girls will ask you if you've ever considered stand-up comedy, or
will keep telling you how funny you are. She
may tell you to show her friends the same
trick, routine or story you just demonstrated
to her. The dancing monkey doesn't get laid.
On the other extreme is the low-energy guy,
Mr. Cool. He might appear aloof, quiet and
even mean. Girls don't think this guy is cool,
they just think he's unsociable.
What kind of personality do you have? If you
tend to be reserved, shy and quiet, you
need to become the dancing monkey. Shoot
your energy way too high, gesture too
much, have too much inflection in your
voice. Tell cheesy jokes. Entertain the set.
Really push yourself to the extreme, and
It's hard to get into clubs. There's just totally out of your comfort zone. Once
no love for cute guys!
you've gotten competent in the dancing
I'm the most interesting guy you're monkey role, start to dial it down to a
gonna meet in the next 45 days.
suitable level.
I made an idiot of myself just now. My
fly was open. That doesn't bother me, If you are the high-energy entertainer
but then I tripped over my dick and
already, then you need to start bringing your
everyone laughed at me!
energy down. If you gesture too much,
make an effort to keep your hands at your sides or in your pockets...or even better, put
them on girls.
Eventually you will learn to calibrate your energy first to the venue, then to the set,
then to the target. You will ultimately bring your energy down into a seductive and
Make an effort to catch yourself saying
anything negative. Try to stop the
words before they come out.
Give yourself compliments when
talking to girls, even if boastful.
Examples:
sensual tone.
Step Two: Use outer game to project high value
Inner game is something most guys lack when they discover the community. And so,
they have to use outer game to carry them through sets. As they become competent at
talking to women, confidence follows. They also become aware of what their best self
is and how attractive it is to women. And so, as they accrue confidence socializing in
any situation, inner game will improve over time. In this sense, inner and outer game
are inextricably linked.
In the meanwhile, you must strengthen your outer game to garner attraction from
women. This often involves pushing buttons, or purposefully hitting the typical
attraction switches: leader of men, willingness to walk away, willingness to emote,
preselection and protector of love ones. You must throw out alpha phrases, you must
qualify, you must require compliance. You must employ routines which have DHV
spikes embedded in them.
My PUA Field Guide has tons of material you can use to generate attraction. I will give
you the two routines I often use: palmistry and the cell phone routine. Combined,
these gather a lot of information about the target and relate a lot of info back to her
about you. If you use these routines over and over in the same night, girls will start
realizing what's up. That's ok. For now, I'm just trying to get you to understand the
concepts. When you understand them, you should craft your own routines and mix
them up during the night.
Palmistry
You don't need a reason to go into this routine. Randomly ask her if she's an Aries (or
any sign for that matter). Remember to make statements,
not ask questions: You're an Aries. She'll say yes or no.
Whatever she says, tell her that sign and yours never get
along. This is a disqualifier.
Now, take her hand and ask if she's left or right handed.
Start to look at her dominant palm, but realize it's too dim
and that you need to sit down where there's more light.
Hold her hand and move her into a better-lit isolation spot.
When you sit, let your forearm rest on her thigh and take
her hand again.
Take a look at her dominant hand and tell her: This stuff is
from Vogue. So it's like 100 percent accurate. If she asks
you if you read Vogue, say, My friends are always leaving
Vogue around my house. She should get that you mean
female friends, but if she asks if your guy friends read Vogue, just say, Uhh...noooo...
Ok, so hold her hand with both of yours. Be sensual and soft with your touch, not
analytical. Trace the line at the top of the palm that heads towards the index finger. Tell
her this is the heart line. If it goes to the index finger, tell her she puts the feelings of
others before her own. If it goes to the middle finger, tell her the opposite. For most
people it goes in between the two digits, which means she tends to balance the
feelings of others with her own. If the line stops short of the fingers, tell her she's a
little reserved with her feelings; she doesn't usually wear her heart on her sleeve.
After you go through this, get a sense of whether you're right or not. Don't ask, So am
I right? Just look at her expression and see if you've hit. She may tell you you're right
or wrong. If she challenges you, just remind her it's from Vogue and so you're sure it's
100% accurate.
Now, move onto the head line. This one runs along the base of the thumb. If it's close
to the fleshy part, she is practical and has her feet on the ground. If it's farther from the
base, she tends to have her head in the clouds. She'll agree or not.
Rub the mound at the base of the thumb and tell her she's passionate. She'll probably
agree. Gently pull her fingers backwards. If they don't move tell her she's rigid and
sticks to her guns; if they do move back, tell her she's a flexible, easy-going person
(err on the side of flexibility when you do the read).
Ok, now let's look at what we've done so far. We've assessed whether she's
emotionally open versus reserved, if she is a thinker or a dreamer, if she's passionate,
if she's strict versus easy-going. Not only is this kino and chick crack, but you are factfinding and qualifying during this routine. That's why this is such a powerful gambit; it's
a real workhorse.
Lastly, I look at the creases at the wrist when you bend it up (credit Brad P.). Tell her
this is the important part of the read. Have a close look, then tell her you're afraid to
tell her what it means. She'll protest and ask you to read the creases. She will usually
have 2 or 3 creases. Tell her if a girl has one, she's a virgin. If your target has two
creases, tell her three means she's a super sex goddess, and two means she's
sexually frustrated. If she has three creases, tell her two means sex goddess and
three is sexually frustrated. Either way, cast her as sexually frustrated, then look at her
for a response. She'll either admit it or deny it. When they deny it, they do it
emphatically.
If she denies it, cast her as a sexual predator and act like you'll need your friends to
keep their eye on you all night so she doesn't try to molest you. If she says she is
sexually frustrated, promise to find her a guy in the venue who can cure her of
this...point out the biggest chode and threaten to introduce her to him.
So this last part sexualizes the interaction, and then disqualifies yourself in spite of the
kino (notice the entire routine is sandwiched between two disqualifiers). This kino-pull
coupled with verbal-push is a mainstay of my superficial attraction phase.
always notice a pair of boobs, and will usually make a comment on them. You can
either ignore her comment or say, Eh, that's a girlfriend of mine. We were goofing
around. Don't make a big deal about it.
Next, you will pass by other pics your buddies and you (leader of men), something
adventurous like rock-climbing, you in a rock band, more pics of girls on the beach or
in your car, et cetera. Let each pic serve to DHV, but make sure it doesn't come across
as try-hard or braggy. Finally, arrive at the cute pic, which with my dog is a photo of his
butt, or him in a jester outfit. Quickly shut the phone and put it away. Any longer and
you'll look like you have an agenda. Laugh with her about it.
Now ask her if she has pets but wait! She's not a cat person, is she? She will qualify
about liking animals, not liking cats, and so on, or she may disqualify herself by saying
she doesn't like pets. This is more fact-finding; is she kind and affectionate towards
animals? For me, this is an important quality. Tailor the gambit so you have her qualify
herself on the things you consider important.
Step Three: Develop your inner game
Being a routines junkie is simply not good enough. I want you to have the confidence
to approach any woman, anywhere, with no canned material. I want you to go direct. I
want you to have no fear in any social situation.
To get there you need to:
1. Practice interacting with people until it's no big deal.
2. Be genuinely comfortable in your own skin.
The great thing about field work is you will eventually develop a level of competence
that will allow you to hook and get attraction fairly regularly. Blow-outs will become a
thing of the past and you will find girls playing with their hair as you lock eyes and talk
to them. You will realize that the words coming out of your mouth are virtually
meaningless, while your subcoms are the engine driving the interaction. That is when
your inner game has risen to the next level. As competence develops, confidence will
naturally arise. And confidence is attractive.
But going out and getting confident in social settings is only half the solution. The other
half is to develop true core confidence. To get to that level, you need to stare down
your demons. You need to get to the point where fear no longer inhibits you from
taking action. You need to feel that talking to a woman is a gift to her, that you are
making her night by being in your presence. This may sound conceited, but the truth is
you are (or will soon turn yourself into) a high value man, through much toil and
anguish. So why would you not consider the women you interact with fortunate? They
will not likely meet men of the same caliber as you any time soon. When you have
completed step three, you are at an intermediate level of pick-up.
Chapter Seven
Frame Control and Qualification
A critical concept in pick-up is that of frame control. Women may test you to see how
dominant you are. Do you relinquish control of the frame at the slightest challenge, or
do you wrestle the frame away from her? Do you jump through her hoops in an effort
to supplicate, or do you resist and make her jump through your hoops? If she rejects
your advances do you let this affect you
emotionally, or is it clear that her behavior is
outside
your
reality
and
therefore
surprising?
Women want to be women. To be a woman,
she must be with a man who is a man.
Women cannot relax into their femininity if
they must also assume the masculine role.
This is why they test. They are unattracted
to men who act beta or who are
predominantly feminine. Being emotional
creatures, they seek stillness and security in
a man. This is why height is so important;
even if the man acts beta, his height will
provide some illusion of security and
dominance.
Coming from an AFC background, the newb may be tempted at first to give in to a
woman's tests and relinquish control of the frame. But always be aware if you are
losing control, and regain control before you do. Use reframes, snipping threads that
don't suit you, and self-amusement to help control the frame.
Here are some frames that should be established:
You are a sociable guy, and chatting with random strangers is what you do
You are preselected, and you have a lot of women in your life
You are talking to her to see if she meets your criteria, not vice versa
You are willing to open up to a woman as long as she shares as well
You don't tolerate low-value behavior in your friends, let alone strangers
You have a busy social calender, but if she seems worthy you can fit her in
Girls will try to wrestle the frame away from you. Its not that they particularly want the
control. Some do, but most of the time what theyre doing is testing you to see how
dominant you are. They want you to dominate them. They dont want you to relinquish
the frame.
Here are some ways you can maintain frame control:
a. If a girl asks you a question, first make her guess. Whenever she asks you to guess
something, dont do it.
b. Be less reactive than she is. Get used to using fewer words and more quiet eye
contact, grins and facial expressions. Keep your hand gestures a little tempered
compared to hers. This sets the frame that she is working for your attention/attraction.
c. Be more relaxed and comfortable than she is. Lock in so youre leaning against
something and shes facing you. Same as with being less reactive, this sets up the
frame that youre the prize and shes pursuing you.
d. Be illogical and non-reactive when challenged. Shes trying to throw you off guard
either with shit tests or logical threads that break her own state. Dont fall for it.
Redirect everything back into your reality, your frame.
So, how do you quickly establish frames? By qualifying. It may be subtle, such as,
Oh, I can tell you love your job. I really respect that. This sets the frame that you are
screening her, and are rewarding the values you admire. Or it may be obvious, such
as, I'm bored. Tell me three interesting things about yourself.
In short, qualification is one of the most important factors of any interaction. The
subtext is always that of you screening her. Girls will buy into this frame, and this will
permit frame control from the very start.
A lot of guys aren't sure how or when to qualify. He might do a little attraction material,
then go into so tell me three things about you that would make me want to know you
better or something like that.
When I started out, I did the same thing. I ran my attraction routines (A2), then when I
got some IOIs, I'd run the A3 qualifier. Sometimes she responded, sometimes (if there
wasn't enough attraction) she'd get offended. It was clunky and I really didn't
understand the mechanics behind it.
Then I realized that qualifying is essential to setting the frame of being a high value
man. The subtext of your remarks is that a girl's appearance isn't enough; you require
something more. So I started qualifying early and often, not just once I thought she
liked me.
Types of qualifiers
Sincere qualifiers
You have a cool vibe. I wanna see you again. Let me get your #.
Amazing, you love kids.
I'm having a great night. I don't want the night to end.
Minor qualifiers
You're not one of those superficial LA party girls, are you?
Ugh, please tell me you aren't into sports!
Major qualifiers
Alright, so give me three reasons why I should get to know you.
Are you good at giving head?
Can you make a good breakfast? That's kinda important.
I'm a huge film buff. What kinds of movies do you like?
Another concept that many guys don't realize is that when you kino a girl, you are
essentially qualifying her. She is earning your touch, or earning sex with you, because
she is trying to work for your attraction and is meeting your criteria. That is another
reason why kino is so important.
The flip side of the qualifier is the disqualifier. For example, a qualifier: You're a Leo?
Great, my best girlfriends have been Leos. We just seem to get along well. A
disqualifier: Oh no, not a Leo! Libras and Leos never get along.
It is possible to disqualify and qualify at the same time, what is called bait-hook-realrelease. Example: You're a Leo? Nice, my last three girlfriends were Leos. But then,
we fought constantly... This is classic push-pull.
Be aware when you may be over DISqualifying. That is, don't be so picky that you
avoid opening, avoid getting numbers, avoid escalating. Have standards, but don't use
those as excuses not to run the interactions. Leave your ego at the door and see how
far you can progress your sets.
Ultimately, you want a girl to qualify herself physically or sexually to you. Example:
HB: I'm a vegetarian.
You: Really? Does that mean you won't eat cock?
HB: No, I will.
You: But are you good at it?
HB: Totally!
If she mentions anything about working out, or athletics, or hiking, or anything physical
at all, use that as an opportunity for her to show her body off to you. Look her up and
down, spin her, feel her up, slap her ass. And then you can either compliment her or
tease her, depending on where you are in attraction.
As I've discussed in the Chapter 5, once you have moved from superficial to deep
attraction, you no longer need to make her prove herself as much. Your use of
qualifiers can drop, though you should always be controlling the frame if challenged.
Chapter Eight
Sexual Intent
Going into the field and chatting up girls without telegraphing sexual intent will only get
you so far. You will invariably end up in the friend zone, or more likely she won't bother
to return your call. Girls want to get laid. If they think they are just spinning their
wheels and you can't man up and make your intentions known, then they will think
there's something wrong with you.
You don't want to be the proverbial sleazy horn-dog but women do need to feel your
sexuality in the way you speak, move and touch. You can be sexual, sensual or both,
but a girl needs to feel it. She needs to be turned on.
Something I see trip people up is either not telegraphing sexual intent, or making girls
think you have an agenda, or both.
Example of no or vague intent: you talk to a girl for 15 minutes but you don't touch her
sensually/sexually, you don't flirt, you don't hit on her. I compliment girls a lot as a way
of telegraphing interest. But I use diminutive words to describe her (e.g. Look at you!
When did you turn into such a little cutie over here? or You're so adorable.) And as
for kino, just doing friendly touches with nothing that telegraphs intent is dry and won't
fire off her circuits. You gotta get your hands in there at some point, invade her
personal space.
Example of agenda: ONLY touching or talking to the target while ignoring the friends.
Hesitating a while before approaching, isolating or escalating. Basically getting in your
head, which even if done for a second telegraphs an agenda.
The fix: always make it clear to a girl you want to fuck her hard. You can take the
chance of making it explicitly obvious, but for socially savvy chicks, you can keep it
nuanced and implicit. I frequently will randomly lean in, tell a girl she smells good, and
then bite her neck. Who does that?! Guys who want to fuck, that's who. I can then
move on with the interaction, but at that very moment, my intent has become clear.
I never have an agenda. If I see a girl I'm attracted to, I approach without hesitation. I
might work my way up her circle, starting at the ugs, but I do acknowledge and game
all the friends. If her ug friend wants to kiss my cheek, I let her, TOTALLY happy about
it. There is no rejection in my world (unless the ug wants to ride my face...that's a no-
no), only acceptance. I am giving value to all, and the target will be attracted to this. It
is the persona of a high-value man.
Sexualization is important to get in the habit of doing. Girls should know that you're
comfortable about sex, that it's no big deal, that it's just a part of your life. Read my
Field Guide on more about how to sexualize a conversation (it's in the kino chapter).
While it's a start, sexualizing by itself does
not imply intent. It just means you are
interested in sex, though not necessarily sex
with her. Taking it a step further, she needs
to know you may want to have sex with her.
You can be blunt and explicit, or you can
play hard-to-get. That is, you may not be
totally sold on the idea, but the option
should be on the table.
There are three ways to telegraph intent:
1. Physically (including subcoms).
2. Explicitly through your words.
3. Implicitly through your words.
If you grab a girl and make out with her, and
press your cock into her, you've physically
demonstrated your desire. If you grab her
hand and lead her towards the bathroom,
you have demonstrated you mean business
through your actions. Your subcoms like
strong eye contact can also make her feel
your intent.
Women are very intuitive and like a challenge, so sometimes implication and subtlety
are better options.
I use my waffle qualifier to implicitly make my intent known. If a girl is trying to qualify
herself, I'll ask, So, can you make waffles? Because breakfast is kinda important.
The implication of this question is that we might sleep together, and I need a girl who
can make me breakfast in the morning, specifically waffles.
Another way to implicitly ask for sex is to send out a text at 2 AM on Friday night
simply stating, Hey, whats up? Any girl who responds understands the implicit
purpose of the text is for a booty call.
If you ask a girl over to your place to watch videos, she realizes sex might happen.
Here, too, there is no need to explicitly tell her to come over for sex (though you can if
that's your style).
In any case, you need to be comfortable and competent with all three means. Once
you are, you need to learn how to calibrate your intent. This comes from working intent
into your sets again and again and again.
If you have a block that stops you from being open about your sexual desires, you
need to get to work fixing that. If you find yourself apologizing about your passion, stop
apologizing. If you are able to make sexual demands but have a tough time with
subtlety, start to tone things down. Being seductive means being in control of your
desires, but it also means being able to unleash them without hesitation when
necessary.
We are sexual beings. We have been put on this planet to fuck, or else the species
would've gone extinct long ago. There is no special skill needed to fuck women. In
fact, instead of piling on a bunch of tactics and techniques, realize that many times all
you need to do is remove all the obstacles that you and others have put in front of you.
Embrace your sexuality and let it radiate onto women.
Chapter Nine
Kino, Dominance and Compliance
AFCs like to sit and have a friendly chat with girls on dates. That is their usual modus
operandi. The problem is, this doesn't create attraction. When they enter the
community, they learn they must touch girls (kino), must dominate them both verbally
and physically, and must work towards increasing levels of compliance from them.
This behavior by a man is attractive to women, who tend to be passive and submissive
by nature. Though they know they must act this way, the AFC finds these behaviors
incongruent and hard to carry out convincingly.
For many guys, what they say is the interrupt in their game. That is, they should just
shut up and put their hands on girls. Talking too much and gesturing like a performer
will not generate attraction. If you're one of these fellows, calm down. And understand
this without a doubt: girls LOVE to be touched. If you can't snuggle up to a girl in a
club, you're gonna have a tough time closing her later on.
Kino
There are three forms of communication:
1. Verbal (the words you speak). Good for comfort, not as important for attraction or
seduction.
2. Subcommunication (all nonverbal cues: body language, tonality, eye contact, etc).
Always key.
3. Kino. This should make her light bulb go on: Oh, he wants to fuck me! Seduction
is mostly kino: making out, rubbing her vajayjay, grinding on her.
There are two basic schools of thought on kino, which I call:
1. Reactive. Involves calibration and testing the waters. Example: Mystery Method
2. Dominant. Involves minimal calibration, and dominating her physically. Example:
RSD
The benefit of reactive kino is you may not get blown out as much since you can
gradually create compliance and comfort to your touch. The downside is it establishes
a very beta frame. Dominant kino sets the frame that you really don't care about
boundaries, and you expect her to comply like all women do. It means being truly
unreactive to rejection, even on a subconscious level. It assumes attraction from the
open (see Chapter 5).
Here are some examples of kino. You should become comfortable doing the light
forms, and then progress to the heavy ones in time. Loud ADD dance clubs are a
good place for you to desensitize yourself if you have a fear of doing the heavy stuff.
You can get away with a lot more heavy kino in those venues.
Light kino
Hold her hand when walking around the venue
Arm-in-arm when walking
Touch her shoulder with the back of your hand when making a point
Squeeze her arm when saying something funny
Rub her arms or hands if she's cold
Palmistry
Play with her hair
Thumb sweep (put your hand somewhere like her back, and sweep the thumb slowly
back and forth)
Cheek-to-cheek talking
Tickling
Maintain handshake after the name exchange
Handshake to claw (shake her hand and pull her into a claw with the other arm)
Pinky-pull (do a pinky shake and then pull her into you)
Grab belt loops (to pull her in or hold her in front of you, briefly)
Check out her guns if she mentions the gym or you role play her as your bodyguard
Hugging (and side-hugging)
Twirling her
Sit with your thigh touching hers
High-5s
Cheek kisses
Heavy kino
The claw as you open (the claw is simply putting your arm around a girl's shoulders
and not letting her go)
Bite her neck
Massage her shoulders
Ass slaps
Grab hair and pull her head back
Smell her neck
Kiss gambits and makeouts
Touch her belly
Pussy kino, boob kino (credit Gambler. As you're talking with a drink in your hand, let
your hand briefly graze her tit occasionally (boob kino). As you turn to walk away,
reach for her hand but accidentally graze her pussy (pussy kino)).
Have her sit on your lap
Have her stand between your legs
Dance game
Hug and lift, carry off, etc (caveman style)
Squeeze her thigh while talking
you. Rejection should be outside your reality. As with many aspects of game, this is all
inner game.
Dominance
Proximity is key to dominance. This is something that took me a while to realize.
Standing a couple feet away spitting routines at her is not seductive. You need to be
all up in her grill. Become a close talker. At first, you can just stand shoulder-toshoulder with your girl (even if it's an obstacle). As you spend more time with her, you
can turn to face her directly. Of course, you can open by facing her, but this may
intimidate you right now. So just try talking
to girls while invading their personal space.
start out with the former, since dominance requires a lot of confidence, and guys tend
to lack confidence when dealing with hot girls.
Here are some ways you can assert dominance:
a. Control the conversation. If she goes in a direction you dont want to go, snip and
stack into something you want to talk about. Always set the agenda. Always move the
interaction towards seduction.
b. Control the frame. See Chapter 7.
c. Be physical. Dont wait for permission to escalate. Just do it.
d. Violate her personal space. Get all up in her grill in no time flat. Break down any
space barrier she has, from the moment you walk up. Touch her jewelry, play with her
hair as you talk to her, rub her belly, et cetera. Be a close-talker. If she calls you out,
just say you didn't even realize you were doing it; you're just a touchy guy.
e. Invite yourself to sit down with a seated set. Make them make room for you. Scoot
scoot!
f. Say what you mean, mean what you say. If a girl is sexy as fuck, tell her shes sexy
as fuck. BUT, do it in a way that is socially well-calibrated. Dont be a douche bag.
So your end goal will be assuming a dominant role from the approach. But let's start
with gradual compliance.
Compliance
If you walk up to a girl and are value-free or value-taking in your words and subcoms,
you have no right to assume she will be responsive to your escalation. However, if you
enter the set value-giving, you can assume she will be warm to your touch and
proximity. So what greases the wheels of escalation is the value you bring to the set,
and the value she feels from you before your approach. Refer back to Chapter 6 for
further discussion.
When you are just starting out in the game, you will probably have no idea what is
valuable to women, how to introduce kino correctly, or what your subcoms should look
like. The point of going out in field is to first wrap your head around these ideas, but
then internalize them and make them automatic.
I no longer think about escalation...it just happens. I never try to give value, I just say
things I know will do it. I never have to concern myself as to whether I am taking value
from a set. But yeah, when I started, of course. I had to think about all those things
and more, and I was constantly in my head. That's why drinking is counter-productive;
it doesn't permit the neurons to form new synapses, or for the necessary alteration in
brain biochemistry. Transformation requires presence of mind.
Ok, so it's your first night out in the club. You approach, you run your attraction
material, you do a little kino.
And you bomb. The girls back-turn and walk away. They look at your hand when you
touch them, with a creeped-out expression.
It's ok. Your subcoms are still AFC, even if your verbal game is spot on. You still have
fear in your vocal tonality. You still hesitate and seem unsure just a fraction of a
second too long, and girls detect this. Your eye contact isn't totally confident. There
are so many subtle subcoms being sent out at once, that you can't possibly think
about or control all of them. So something goes awry and your set does not comply. Or
worse, they blow you out hard.
First off, don't let this affect your state. Rejection will invariably happen during your
learning, and you must not consider it a bad thing. These sets are just giving you
some free feedback about your game. Be appreciative and move onto the next set. To
get upset is to allow your ego to run the show.
Expect the following IODs to derail you:
1. The cell phone of doom. Your target or friend pulls out her cell and starts texting.
You can recover with my faux iPhone routine, or by saying is that a calculator?
Who brings a calculator into a club? or Hey, this is what I do when some chatty
girl is talking my ear off. I pull my phone out and pretend like I'm texting.
Sometimes they get it, but usually they just keep blabbing away in my ear. (the
last one is the most effective...they usually start back-peddling because you've
called them out on their rudeness).
2. They turn and walk away. Often this is so fast, you can't stop it. If you can, grab
her shoulder and say wait wait wait! and snip and stack into a new thread.
3. She and her friend eye code and the friend pulls her away. Sometimes friends
will cock-block out of habit, even if your target is enjoying the interaction. It is
simply the law of the club, no matter how unfair it seems. Next time, give more
value to the rest of the set. Flirt, kino, compliment the friends. It's best to be
proactive to prevent cock-blocking.
4. Verbal IODs. They tell you off, say go away, or some flippant response. Regain
control of the frame with something like hey, daddy's talking and resume the
thread.
5. I've had girls stand there and look at me, not smiling or saying anything. Some
people are socially inept or have no value to give. Why waste your time with
them? Plow a little, but then move on.
6. Though not an IOD, they may shit test you. Stare her down confidently and
deflect the shit test. My Guide has examples on dealing with these. Plowing
past shit tests usually unlocks the set and gains you respect.
In summary, do whatever you can to push past these IODs. Put your foot down and be
assertive. In time, they will happen with less frequency. Hooking a set is one of the first
compliance tests.
In the first few minutes, as you enter her comfort zone and escalate rapidly, she will
usually be receptive when your subcoms and verbal game are up to snuff. But on
occasion, she will IOD. While the above IODs are common when you first start out,
they get replaced by a single IOD: the backwards drift. As you're talking to a girl, she
will gradually start moving away from you. You move closer, she moves back, and so
on, until you realize you're chasing her backwards.
This is not good. When you notice this, you need to reciprocate IODs (false time
constraint, disqualifiers, body rock away or just eject and game an adjacent set).
Continuing to pursue her while she's IODing is a sign of low value. You may not detect
this at first, but with time in field your calibration skills will sharpen and it'll dawn on you
what's going on.
Next, you isolate. At this point you should be mini-isolated, which means you have
taken her a couple steps from her group and are holding a 1-on-1 interaction. Isolation
is much more potent, so come up with a few ways to get this done. Grab her hand and
walk her to another part of the bar using some form of plausible deniability:
1. Use my palmistry routine.
2. Say your feet are tired and you want to sit down for just a second.
3. Take her to the bar so you can get yourself a water.
4. Go outside to smoke if that's your thing.
5. Take her to meet your friends, or merge her into another set briefly to make her
feel safe, and then isolate.
Definitely have a plan to isolate, since that is a key compliance test which will pay off.
Once you have isolation, continue to game and escalate until you are in deep
attraction, and then work towards the close (which is intermediate and advanced level
game).
So to review, the main points of compliance are:
1. Give her intense proximity from the open and then employ either reactive or
dominant kino.
2. Hook her so she doesn't IOD.
3. Isolate.
4. Continue to escalate into deep attraction, then close.
Chapter Ten
Putting it All Together
Ok, fuckers, so let's review the game plan.
Sit down and figure out what you want from the game, what kinds of women you find
most attractive, and what you have to offer to them. Try to improve those aspects
about you women may find unattractive.
Search out locations in your area which will allow you to work on verbal and physical
game, and a mixture of these two.
Go out and open, open, open. Keep going until your AA is squashed. Don't give up.
3-5 nights a week is an ideal schedule to begin with. Fall in love with the game and let
yourself get addicted. Avoid excessively reading pick-up material. Spend that time in
field.
Compile a routine tree from original or existing material. In field, test out the various
contingencies and prepare yourself with responses. Develop about 3 minutes of
material.
As you deliver your material, stop thinking about it, and redirect your focus on your
non-verbals like posture, eye contact, facial expressions, hand gestures, vocal tonality
and projection. Fix all your flaws, and if needed have wings critique you.
Train yourself to make positive assumptions. Eliminate negative assumptions. No
more excuses. If you hear the voice in your head making an excuse, don't argue with
it. Just recognize that it's happening, disregard it and take the action you need to take.
Get in the habit of assuming attraction from the open.
Learn how to use your energy level to hook. Start calibrating your energy to the venue,
to the set and to the target. Direct the energy of the target to follow your own, and
bring it down to a seductive vibe.
Understand what BT spiking looks like and how to do it. Use BT spikes to help
escalate.