SENATOR THE HON PENNY WONG

LEADER OF THE OPPOSITION IN THE SENATE

SHADOW MINISTER FOR TRADE AND INVESTMENT
LABOR SENATOR FOR SOUTH AUSTRALIA
SENATOR KATE LUNDY
LABOR SENATOR FOR AUSTRALIAN CAPITAL
TERRITORY
SENATOR NOVA PERIS OAM
LABOR SENATOR FOR NORTHERN TERRITORY
E&OE TRANSCRIPT
DOORSTOP INTERVIEW
DARWIN, NORTHERN TERRITORY
TUESDAY, 10 MARCH 2015

SUBJECT/ S: Senate inquiry on fam ily violence hearings in Darw in; Sex ual
assault; Visit to Northern Territory
SENATOR PENNY WONG, LEADER OF THE OPPOSITION IN THE SENTATE: Thanks
very much for coming. Well its great to be here in Darwin, weve all been participating in a
very important inquiry into domestic violence, into family violence so my colleagues Kate,
Claire and of course, Nova who youd all know as your Senator from the Northern Territory,
have been talking to witnesses about family violence, about what can be done by
government programs and policies to lessen the scourge of violence in our communities a
particular issue for people in the Northern Territory but of course for families across
Australia.
I want to make one comment about the evidence weve heard today: Nigel Scullion told the
Senate that the cuts to Indigenous services wouldnt result in any frontline services being
cut, he told people thered be no cut to frontline services. Well the evidence today makes it
very clear that he was wrong, because weve heard evidence today from people on the
frontline and what we know is that the cuts the Abbott cuts are going to mean fewer
services, fewer jobs and less services in important areas like youth services and drug and
alcohol services which are so needed by communities. So I say this to Nigel Scullion: if
youre so confident your cuts havent impacted on frontline services why dont you be up

front with your community; be upfront with the people who elected you and tell everybody
exactly what youve cut and defend why. Explain why those services to young people, for
people battling with drug and alcohol problems explain why those services arent
important and why theyre not frontline services. I challenge Nigel Scullion to be that
transparent with the people who elected him. Happy to take questions.
JOURNALIST: Senator, what have you been hearing from the witnesses this morning
about the solution, or ways to address family violence?
WONG: Well look I might throw to my colleagues on that but I think there were a couple of
things that were a real take out from the witnesses today. The first is, we all need to make
clear this is unacceptable. We know over the decades that violence in the home, violence
within families, theres been too much of a culture of silence and I think what has been
really important about this Committees work is that it really seeks to open the dialogue,
open the debate, we have to make sure that people are able to talk about it and are able to
address it.
The second thing I think is very clear, is that governments need to do more than talk. We
need to have real services on the ground, frontline services for people who have been
beaten by others. My colleagues, Senator Nova Peris might wish to add.
SENATOR NOVA PERIS: If I could just say that what we know is there are a significant
amount of frontline services that have been cut. We know that there have been youth
programs that have been cut in remote communities and theyre absolutely instrumental in
providing services for our youth and to get them on track. We know that youre not tackling
family or domestic violence if youre not tackling alcohol. You know, we know that the family
prevention strategy that was announced last year by Minister Price and Senator Michaelia
Cash didnt mention alcohol. We know that there are cuts to drug and alcohol programs
from a federal level that are going to have a huge impact on the ground. We know that cuts
to legal services means less lawyers and less representation, you know, for people entering
into the justice systems. We know that people who are in the justice systems with between
three and six months dont get given rehabilitation programs. So the fantastic part of this
program is that we are going to put this on the table. And, constantly, every single witness
has said its epidemic. You know, we are at crisis point. Its a national embarrassment and if
we cant take the evidence given by people who have dedicated their lives to making a
difference, then seriously, then what can we do?
JOURNALIST: You mentioned in the hearings this morning that Rosie Batty had managed
to draw an immense amount of attention to family violence in the last few months, and that
she did it as a non-Indigenous woman, do you believe that Indigenous family violence has
been swept under the carpet, or ignored because the solutions have seemed too difficult?
PERIS: I think quite often Aboriginal affairs are put in the too difficult basket and, you
know, it takes a courageous woman like Rosie Batty a non-Indigenous woman to put it
on the national agenda, and you know Ive written to Rosie Batty and shes taken up my
invitation to come to the Northern Territory so Im very grateful. But it shouldnt have to
have reached a crisis point like that to have a non-Indigenous woman highlight the plight of
Aboriginal women here in the Northern Territory.
JOURNALIST: Ms Lundy we might just ask you as someone from outside the Northern
Territory, hearing the evidence this morning, what are the unique challenges that face
people up here, particularly Indigenous men and women?

SENATOR KATE LLUNDY: One of the things that strikes me is and this is our sixth
hearing now into this important inquiry is that many of the geographic challenges and
social challenges in the Northern Territory make it, the solutions here incredibly crosssectoral. We heard evidence this morning that in some remote communities its employment
programs that are being cut, its health programs that have been cut, and this all contributes
to that sense of well-being and self-esteem in the absence of - domestic violence increases.
So it is a particular challenge here by the nature of the characteristics of communities in the
Territory and thats why we wanted to come here at Senator Peris invitation, to take specific
evidence about Northern Territory circumstances.
JOURNALIST: Were there any trends that were similar across the country?
LUNDY: There are so many trends, disturbing trends in the area of family violence that we
know it has been increasing, we know here in the Territory it has been increasing, and you
can correlate that increase in family violence with cuts to funding for programs that were
designed to prevent violence happening, and weve seen those cuts come in over the last
couple of years under the Abbott Government and unfortunately were seeing the
affects. So, were glad to be here conducting this inquiry but we need to see results from
the Abbott Government to reverse those cuts and then to start working with all forms of
government local, Territory, Federal, to build substantial solutions that will actually tackle
this problem at its very heart.
JOURNALIST: How confident are you that the Government will take the Committees
findings seriously and move to enact change swiftly?
LUNDY: Well I believe that there is a great deal of intent at the moment what weve
heard is many words from the Abbott Government that they are taking this seriously, but
the proof will be, I guess, in the Budget. Wed like to see those cuts restored, wed like to
see certainty for the organisations who gave evidence this morning saying they dont know
whats going to happen to their budgets come July - theyre laying people off, people are
walking away without any job security in the very community services sector designed to
help prevent family violence from occurring in the first place, and to support those who are
victims of it.
WONG: Sorry I just want to add to that if I may I think, the community judges politicians
by what we do, not what we say and I welcome the Prime Ministers focus on family
violence but you have got to match it with deeds, and it is not what is being done now in
terms of cuts to frontline services which are important, which affects critical need really
needs to be reversed. And what I would say to Mr Abbott, Tony Abbott and I would say to
Nigel Scullion is, youve got to reverse these cuts which are taking services away from the
very people who need it.
JOURNALIST: And is Labor calling on those cuts to be reversed in the upcoming Budget
before the Committees findings are made in this inquiry?
WONG: Well Labor has never supported the reduction in funding to these services we
dont now, and I note theres been a few backflips, a few captains calls by Tony Abbott I
think there another one today in relation to car funding. What Id say is that people do
judge you by what you do and what we know is that this government has cut funding to
important frontline services into communities who need it.

JOURNALIST: You mentioned the reversal of the decision around funding in the car
industry thats come from sustained pressure from media, the community, that sort of
thing do you think theres not enough pressure coming around from Aboriginal services or
are people just not listening to it?
WONG: Well on the reversal of the decision on the auto sector Id say a couple of things:
first I think this government, Tony Abbott has never supported the auto sector never has,
never will. And the second is, the reversal today is entirely about his own job, its not about
a change in his values or a change in his priorities. And I do think, when it comes to the
current round of cuts to services I hope that Nigel Scullion gets the message from the
community that people dont support what is happening, that people do support the
services that are needed being provided to the communities who need it.
JOURNALIST: In the hearings today a peak Aboriginal organisation called for the policies
and programs around health to be taken off the Prime Minister & Cabinet and put back in
the health portfolio what sort of a message does that send to build their confidence in
PM&C?
WONG: Oh well, I dont know if my colleagues will want to respond theres certainly been
a lot of chopping and changing with programs, and I dont think anyone watching the
machinery of government changes would think that it has been a good move to put these
programs into Prime Minister and Cabinet I think its led to chaos, I think people have not
been told what their funding arrangements are, people dont understand what their funding
arrangements are into the future and weve seen a massive round of cuts so I think there
are machinery of government problems but the fundamental problem is that the
Government has taken resources that are needed, off the table.

ENDS
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