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JK-Money
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(Today, 09:29 AM)
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RichyMtl
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(Today, 09:34 AM)
was one the news once never heard of again
#51
http://www.collective-evolution.com/...re-for-cancer/
My partner believes that they found the cure for aids but they make so much money with all the pills HIV+ people are taking
that they prefer to keep it that way... I just nod and walk away...
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ApatheticDolphin
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(Today, 09:36 AM)
Yeah, I have a friend who justifies smoking by saying that there's a cure for lung cancer (Hash Oil) but it's not legal. I know
it's got some benefits... but still.
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UrbanRats
#54
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(Today, 10:13 AM)
Originally Posted by CreepingFear
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My grandfather thought the same. He didn't trust doctors and didn't go see one when he was in pain. He died of
colon cancer.
Lol, reminds me of my grandma, going something like "you go in healthy, and you come out with all sorts of problems!".
Saintguine
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(Today, 10:15 AM)
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There's probably experimental treatments that exist but they're too expensive to be made profitable as general medicine for
the general population i.e aspirin, paracetamol etc. and are instead specialized medicine which is incredibly expensive and/or
experimental active anti-cancer agents that are just sat on due to lack of funding in research and development.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=868331&page=2
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Also there's no "cure for cancer". Cancer is a large category of diseases.
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Eusis
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(Today, 10:20 AM)
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TheSinkingKnight
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(Today, 10:45 AM)
The closest thing to a cure for cancer I can imagine is figuring out how to reconstruct the whole body relatively easily and at
any point in development, and that's basically unlocking immortality at the same time anyway. So yeah, I don't see that as
something the government's hiding away.
If such a cure existed, then billionaires would probably never die from cancer, and yet they do.
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Log4Girlz
#58
I recently w ent to my friends

house to check out his w ii. I w as
generally impressed. It w as
larger than I expected though.
Originally Posted by TheSinkingKnight
If such a cure existed, then billionaires would probably never die from cancer, and yet they do.
(Today, 10:47 AM)

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1cmanny1
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(Today, 10:51 AM)
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Randam
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(Today, 10:53 AM)
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No they don't, have any proof of that? Of course they fake their own deaths to pull the strings from the shadows ;)
Some of you are a bit OTT. Tons of people believe these silly conspiracy theories, you can either cheerfully debate them or
just nod politely. My entire family believes lots of nonsense, I don't hate them, I just find it funny.
#59
It isn't like believing the cure for cancer is hidden by the government will hurt anyone. Save your anger for people not accepting
blood transfusions, or using pseudoscience medicine over seeing a medical professional etc.
What would be the benefit for them to keep it a secret??
#60
Making it available for everyone would make them soooo much more money.
Screaming Meat
#61
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(Today, 10:56 AM)
Originally Posted by Kaako
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One must ask, is there a possibility they could be right?

Nah.
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ThoseDeafMutes
#62
Very good! Keep thrusting!

(Today, 10:56 AM)
Originally Posted by Randam
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The conspiracy is usually in the form of "it's much more profitable to get somebody to pay for years of cancer treatment than it is
for a once off cure". Usually if somebody is peddling said cure, it's some kind of herb, supplement or dietary chance that they
want you to read their book about, for the low low price of 19.99, or 10 dollars on kindle. "Drug companies can't patent this
miracle cure, because it's all natural!"
Log4Girlz
I recently w ent to my friends
house to check out his w ii. I w as
generally impressed. It w as
larger than I expected though.
(Today, 10:56 AM)
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Originally Posted by Randam

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Money is in the treatment! No one in their right minds would steal the cure for hundreds of billions of dollars in personal gain :/
Shanks D Zoro
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(Today, 10:59 AM)
I am sure Steve Jobs would be a pretty high bidder, but cancer still got him.
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ThoseDeafMutes
#65
Very good! Keep thrusting!

(Today, 11:00 AM)
Originally Posted by Log4Girlz
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Money is in the treatment! No one in their right minds would steal the cure for hundreds of billions of dollars in personal
gain :/
None of the scientists would come forward to claim the nobel prize, they'd get whacked by the illuminati
Originally Posted by Shanks D Zoro
I don't recall the exact details but I believe he attempted alternative treatments prior to getting conventional ones and it worsened
his condition.
Nephtis
#66
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(Today, 11:00 AM)
Originally Posted by Log4Girlz
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Money is in the treatment! No one in their right minds would steal the cure for hundreds of billions of dollars in personal
gain :/
look at the guy that made the Polio vaccine! Dude died poor :P
Really though, even if we had the cure for cancer, it just means you're cured for that instance. Cancer is a mutation of the cells,
so unless we can prevent said mutation from occurring in the first place, the cancer can still come back. So you'd be cured again.
Makai
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(Today, 11:01 AM)
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#67
Originally Posted by ThoseDeafMutes
The conspiracy is usually in the form of "it's much more profitable to get somebody to pay for years of cancer treatment
than it is for a once off cure". Usually if somebody is peddling said cure, it's some kind of herb, supplement or dietary
chance that they want you to read their book about, for the low low price of 19.99, or 10 dollars on kindle. "Drug
companies can't patent this miracle cure, because it's all natural!"
I find the herbal supplement market fascinating. Its customers seem to have this attitude that consumption of herbs can only be
positive. Harmless at worst and miracle cures at best.
BLAZER
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(Today, 11:13 AM)
I'm sure it can be cured with stem cell research. But where would that lead humanity...You have your answer.
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Faiz
#69
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(Today, 11:13 AM)
Originally Posted by PsychBat!
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What say you, GAF? Think they have a clue or are they fucking idiots?
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"Fucking idiots" is a little harsh but it's more the latter than the former, but I'll ask a question in return.
Was it worth the emotional stress on your family relationships to escalate the discussion to an argument based in anger? It
doesn't make any real logical sense, but shitting on them and treating them like idiots isn't going to get you anywhere.
Instead of getting pissy, try to 1) understand that the sentiment is rooted in modern distrust of government and large corporations
and 2) make your points and if they don't buy it just move on. When you present an argument the wrong way your just as likely to
make the other party dig in no matter how sound your points are.
Enco
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(Today, 11:15 AM)
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#70
They should come to GAF and join the other conspiracy theorists.
And no there's no chance they're right.
Big pharma can do some sneaky shit but hiding a cure from the world isn't one.
And 'herbal' med is nonsense. The claims are ridiculous. Many drugs are based on natural products anyway.
Oh and there are so many types of cancer the chances of a cure is really really low. It's unlikely to have all cancers cured in our
life time. Maybe in the future it will be managed like diabetes.
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MattKeil
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(Today, 11:16 AM)
Originally Posted by ThoseDeafMutes
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I don't recall the exact details but I believe he attempted alternative treatments prior to getting conventional ones and it
worsened his condition.
Yup. His type of cancer was actually fairly treatable, but he spent so much time messing around with alternative medicine that by
the time he got actual help it had progressed too far.
MasterBalls
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(Today, 11:17 AM)
I think my girlfriend thinks the moon landing was fake. She may have been joking. I'm legit too scared to push it. Because
yikes.
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HarryKS
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(Today, 11:40 AM)
Well, there is a solution: nanomachines.I say this without any comedic purpose. Perhaps the technology is still in its infancy
though.
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The Lamp
#74
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(Today, 12:11 PM)
Originally Posted by HarryKS
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Well, there is a solution: nanomachines.I say this without any comedic purpose. Perhaps the technology is still in its
infancy though.
My professor was researching designing nanomaterials for nanoscale devices that could be injected into the body and diagnose
cancers like pancreatic cancer. I helped him for some of the materials research. It's not really sci-fi anymore.
Currygan
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(Today, 12:12 PM)
a lot of people do. There's some believability to it, tbh
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MattKeil
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(Today, 12:22 PM)
Originally Posted by Currygan
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If by "some" you mean "none." For reasons that have been explained numerous times in this thread.
Sho_Nuff82
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of my money.
(Today, 12:27 PM)
#77
Originally Posted by diggmcbadass
If they keep it secret to all but the highest bidder, I don't see how Steve Jobs would die from cancer.
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So simply put, and so true.

If there was a cure for cancer, no government in the world would be powerful enough to prevent a pharma company from
exploiting it to hell and back.
boiled goose
#78
good with gravy

(Today, 12:40 PM)
Originally Posted by ApatheticDolphin
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Yeah, I have a friend who justifies smoking by saying that there's a cure for lung cancer (Hash Oil) but it's not legal. I
know it's got some benefits... but still.
Smoking can give you other types of cancer too.
linsivvi
#79
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(Today, 12:41 PM)
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First of all, do you know what a vaccine is, and do you know what cancer is?
Secondly, cancer is a family of diseases. You cannot have a single cure for dozens of diseases.
mcz117chief
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(Today, 12:46 PM)
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There are two options:
#80
1) They have some very clean and very broad spectrum drug for cancer but don't distribute it for fear or losing cash income (not
very likely but possible)
2) They try to prevent people from finding the cure so that they can cash in on the victims by selling them their own drugs and
letting them pay for expensive therapies (very likely)
Originally Posted by linsivvi
Secondly, cancer is a family of diseases. You cannot have a single cure for dozens of diseases.
Just like every other disease on the planet. Each disease mutates ever so slightly inside every person when he/she is infected.
DonasaurusRex
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(Today, 12:47 PM)
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#81
vaccine? Cancer isn't a germ, For one there are many forms of it, even of a single type of cancer. Furthermore, its when cells
do whats best for themselves instead of acting in unison with other cells, hence why they grow rapidly. Even if we found a
treatment or antioxidant that were able to stop and revert growth of cancer cells that say happened in the ovarys .... that doesnt
mean it will work in the pancreas or lungs.
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mean it will work in the pancreas or lungs.
Sinfamy
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(Today, 01:07 PM)
If it existed wouldn't billionaires like Steve Jobs have access to it instead of dying?
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McLovin
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(Today, 01:12 PM)
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#83
Cancer can't really be vaccinated, its not a virus or outside disease invading your body. It's your own cells fucking up. The only
way that I could imagine fully curing cancer would be to have your whole genetic data backed up and have little nano bots going
through your body keeping your cells in check, and that's not going to happen any time soon. All we can really do is treat it and/or
nuke it with radiation.
mcz117chief
#84
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(Today, 01:12 PM)
Originally Posted by Sinfamy
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Maybe it didn't work on him. I know people who died of flu.
Zvonimir Boban
#85
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(Today, 01:12 PM)
Originally Posted by Sinfamy
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If they used the cure then it would reveal the existence of said cure to the rest of the world.
Think about it man.
angular graphics
#86
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(Today, 01:16 PM)
Originally Posted by Shanks D Zoro
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Are you honestly that naive? Obviously the Big Pharma knows sacrifices have to be made in order for their plan to deceive us to
work. Steve Jobs' death was a necessity.
Jobs' unbelievable success is not a surprise either. Obviously it's the government's mind control at work as compensation for
making a deal not to treat him. "For our plan to work, we'll make you America's #1 guy but you'll have to die, deal?"
Not to mention Apple's technological breakthroughs with the iPhone are not a product of chance either. Hint: the spaceships the
government has captured utilize touch-screen tech.
Who the fuck believes such shit?!
Bonfires Down
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(Today, 01:20 PM)
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I've been looking into Black salve and I find it very impressive what it can do to peripheral cancers. It is very painful without
strong painkillers though, and it doesn't seem to work as well internally.
#87
Breast cancer removal
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Breast cancer removal
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Volimar
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(Today, 01:21 PM)
You'd have to think that there are so many people working on cancer research that someone not under the secret cabal's
control would come forward with a breakthrough. Just silly.
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Originally Posted by angular graphics
Are you honestly that naive? Obviously the Big Pharma knows sacrifices have to be made in order for their plan to
deceive us to work. Steve Jobs' death was a necessity.
Jobs' unbelievable success is not a surprise either. Obviously it's the government's mind control at work as compensation
for making a deal not to treat him. "For our plan to work, we'll make you America's #1 guy but you'll have to die, deal?"
Not to mention Apple's technological breakthroughs with the iPhone are not a product of chance either. Hint: the
spaceships the government has captured utilize touch-screen tech.
Who the fuck believes such shit?!
You mean Steve Jobs' "death".
BLAZER
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(Today, 01:23 PM)
Wow the amount of people not looking at the bigger picture is astonishing!
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Tell them to read "The Emperor of All Maladies".
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Hoo-doo
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(Today, 01:24 PM)
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Indeed. Because a majority of people are wildly uneducated on the subject.
There is currently no believability to it though, none. Except in the minds of tinfoil-hat-wearing crazies who love a good
conspiracy.
Bit-Bit
#92
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(Today, 01:29 PM)
Originally Posted by Zvonimir Boban
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If they used the cure then it would reveal the existence of said cure to the rest of the world.
Think about it man.
If no one uses the cure, then there is no cure.
thesoapster
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(Today, 01:30 PM)
#93
Each type of cancer differs from the other significantly, and even the same type of cancer in multiple people may respond
completely differently to various treatments. This is one of the reasons on-demand, individual DNA sequencing will be a huge leap
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in treatment. We can't just do that for everyone right now - it's not really feasible. But, some day, we will be able to, and it well
let us tailor treatments so that they are the most effective for that individual.
So no, you cannot just make one "cure for cancer".
GioG
#94
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(Today, 01:32 PM)
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Because he was too busy trying to prove that his vegan diet was the ultimate cure.
BLAZER
#95
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(Today, 01:32 PM)
Originally Posted by Hoo-doo
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Indeed. Because a majority of people are wildly uneducated on the subject.

There is currently no believability to it though, none. Except in the minds of tinfoil-hat-wearing crazies who love a good
conspiracy.
Are you serious?? Cancer will be the highest grossing killer along with bacteria that will ever face humanity. There is no where
humans have to go to expand. Can you image the devastation it would cause to the world such as wars, overpopulation, an even
more under resourced planet etc etc if people are allowed to live cancer free over others. I think you have drastically overlooked
how much it would effect the world. It would totally change humanity!
Arkos
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(Today, 01:34 PM)
It's sad, a lot of conspiracy theories just seem like a desperate attempt to make the world suck less. "Oh there's a cute for
cancer, we just don't know about it," "Oh there are super advanced aliens and space travel, it's just secret," "Oh the NWO
controls the world so at least somebody is capable of doubt that," etc
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syko de4d
#97
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(Today, 01:36 PM)
Originally Posted by HarryKS
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Well, there is a solution: nanomachines.I say this without any comedic purpose. Perhaps the technology is still in its
infancy though.
This is a could talk about nanobots and how they could change medicine in the future
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-5KLTonB3Pg
Its a really interesting video
Cheech
#98
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(Today, 01:37 PM)
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This is pretty much it. If there was a cure for all cancers, that dude of all people would have found it.
Most cancers are very "curable" if caught early enough. But once it spreads, it's much harder to treat.
SocksAndShoes
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(Today, 01:39 PM)
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This has to be one of the dumbest conspiracies to believe in. If a cure existed why wouldn't Pfizer or another huge pharma
company be selling it and profiting off of it?
#99
Dumb. Just dumb.
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The worst to consider is the point at which their beliefs could harm real individuals, until that i would just shrug it off as
clearly uneducated silly goosery. More interestingly, you could even take this as an example of America's fascination with the very
rich and its belief that life is immeasurably and unknowingly better at that class strata.
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Dad and sister of mine think that the cure for cancer exists but is hidden - Page 2 - NeoGAF

was one the news once never heard of again

Originally Posted by CreepingFear

Also there's no "cure for cancer". Cancer is a large category of diseases.

Last edited by Saintguine; Today at 10:19 AM.

I recently w ent to my friends

Originally Posted by TheSinkingKnight

(Today, 10:47 AM)

What would be the benefit for them to keep it a secret??

Originally Posted by Kaako

One must ask, is there a possibility they could be right?

Last edited by Screaming Meat; Today at 12:25 PM.

Very good! Keep thrusting!

Originally Posted by Randam

What would be the benefit for them to keep it a secret??

(Today, 10:56 AM)

What would be the benefit for them to keep it a secret??

Very good! Keep thrusting!

Originally Posted by Log4Girlz

Originally Posted by Shanks D Zoro

Originally Posted by Log4Girlz

Originally Posted by PsychBat!

Originally Posted by ThoseDeafMutes

Originally Posted by HarryKS

a lot of people do. There's some believability to it, tbh

Originally Posted by Currygan

a lot of people do. There's some believability to it, tbh

So simply put, and so true.

good with gravy

Originally Posted by ApatheticDolphin

Originally Posted by Currygan

a lot of people do. There's some believability to it, tbh

There are two options:

Originally Posted by linsivvi

mean it will work in the pancreas or lungs.

Originally Posted by Sinfamy

Originally Posted by Sinfamy

Originally Posted by Shanks D Zoro

Breast cancer removal

Breast cancer removal

Last edited by Bonfires Down; Today at 01:24 PM.

Tell them to read "The Emperor of All Maladies".

Originally Posted by Currygan

a lot of people do. There's some believability to it, tbh

Originally Posted by Zvonimir Boban

Originally Posted by diggmcbadass

Originally Posted by Hoo-doo

Indeed. Because a majority of people are wildly uneducated on the subject.

Originally Posted by HarryKS

Originally Posted by diggmcbadass

Dumb. Just dumb.

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