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RB211 START BLEED VALVES
Phil Milne
Technical Support Manager
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The solution to this problem was to change the material of the springs that are located
internal to the SBOVs so that a higher HP3 operating pressure was required to close
the valves. This had the result that the SBOVs closed later during the starting sequence
when the HPC has enough stall margin for the HP3 SBOVs to close without the HPC
stalling.
The existing bleed valves (LW17699) used on the Ind RB211-24-GT phase II engines
may be reworked through RRC facilities to the new standard of valve with Rolls-Royce
part number LW100165.
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3 off
3 off
Bleed Type
Start Bleed
Reworked
Start Bleed
RB211 24 G
LW17699
RB211 24 GT
LW17699
LW100169
1 off
2 off
Handling Bleed
Dunlop PN
IP Bleed
Dunlop PN
LW10425
AC65152
L913567
AC66768
LW10425
AC65152
L913567
AC66768
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Stage 1.
With the engine starting the HP3 control air pressure will increase closing the Start Bleed valves
gradually. Depending on the ambient these will close between 130 to 183 NDS, with higher ambient
conditions this will be near the 183 NDS.
Stage 2.
HP and IP bleeds have HP3 control air applied to them until 345 NDS when the ECS will initiate the
close command removing HP3 air allowing them to close. These valves will open on a decel at 337
NDS.
Figure 1 below shows HP3 Air at stage 1,
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Current Problem
z SBOV intermittently not working
correctly at various stages.
z Water drained from HP3 lines.
z Excessive condensation in HP3 line
during the highest humidity days is
believed to be the cause. Three sites
with same problem in same conditions.
z SBOV internal seals breaking up from
water locking.
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SBOV Damage
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Trial resolution
z Connect drain to lowest section of SBOV
HP3 line.
z Install needle valve to set required flow
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