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prabhith prabhakaran
My HANA Certification (C_HANAIMP_1) Experience
Posted by prabhith prabhakaran in SAP HANA Developer Center on Dec 16, 2013 6:27
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Hi All,
I have cleared the SAP Certified Application Associate - SAP HANA 1.0 examinatio
n last week.
Through this blog, I would like to take you all through the experience I had and
would like to share some information pertaining to the certification.
Those who have limited knowledge on this certification, please go through the fo
llowing link:
(http://training.sap.com/v2/certification/c_hanaimp_1-sap-certified-applicationassociate---sap-hana-10-g/)
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It s for Application consultants.
Exam Code: C_HANAIMP_1 (80 questions, 180 minute)
Certificate awarded: SAP Certified Application Associate - SAP HANA 1.0
Topics: Business content, Data Modelling, Data Provisioning, Optimization, Repor
ting, Security and Authorization
I have done this certification with my personal interest, I did not undergo any
sort of training but prepared completely by myself. To appear for this certifica
tion without attending any SAP course/training, you need to fulfill the followin
g criteria. I have done the exam in India and I m not sure if the following will c
hange in other countries.
You need minimum 1 year of HANA implementation experience or 2 years of Support
experience with minimum of 6 months experience in the module and version in whic
h you wish to take up certification.
The last 1 year should be with your present employer.
Your present employer should be a CUSTOMER or PARTNER of SAP.
If you fulfill the above criteria,you can contact SAP and they will ask you to s
end your updated project profile as per the format given by them for technical e
valuation. On establishing your eligibility, they will guide you through the pro
cess of registration.
Please send your profile once you are ready to appear for the certification as t
he certification approval mail is valid only for 2 months. After getting the app
roval mail, you will have to take the certification within 2 months of time fail
ing which the payment will be returned. You are requested to complete your cert
ification within the given time-frame.

Evaluation of profile will take minimum 3 - 7 working days.

Please visit the webpage https://training.sap.com/ for available certification d
etails.
Please note no assistance with regard to study material/questionnaire is provide
d for direct certification. Study material is offered only with training and not
as a standalone component.
Certification fee for Associate level is subject to change as per SAP policy in
a timely manner.
Important Note:
Clarifications required by SAP on the profile should be adhered to without which
evaluation will not be done.
Please update your profiles at the first instance. If SAP does NOT approve the p
rofile on the basis of incorrect or incomplete information, you will not be allo
wed to update your profiles or re-apply for direct certification for the next 6
months.
Once profile is approved, the same will not be re-validated. Re-validation of pr
ofile will take please once in six months.
Certification dates are not pre-scheduled & will be shared only on approval on r
eceipt of documents (Hard and Soft Copies) for registration. If your profile is
approved for direct certification, documents required for registration will be s
hared to you on the same approval mail.
You can also send a mail to SAP India regarding Certification details: education
.india@sap.com
NOTE:
1) Email confirmation from the HR of your organization with details (like years
of experience in the company and the tools that you have used) to be sent across
to education.india@sap.com. SAP will provide you with a template of the mail. T
his is a new prerequisite and they are very strict on this without which they wi
ll not allow you to appear for the exam.
2) There would be some delays from SAP in replying to your mails. But don t panic.
They will guide you at appropriate times instead of sending reply for each and
every mail of yours.
3) They will share with you the available dates and venues. You need to pick the
convenient date and reply them back. Do those carefully as the following polici
es exist:
Please note the cancellation / rescheduling policy:
(a) No charge shall be made where notice of cancellation / rescheduling / change
of location is received by SAP at least 10 working days prior to the date of th
e Certification;
(b) 50% of the certification fee will be charged where notice of the cancellatio
n / rescheduling / change of location, is received by SAP between 10 and 5 worki
ng days prior to the date of Certification;
(c) 100% Certification fee will be the cancellation fee charged where either no
notice of cancellation / rescheduling / change of location, is received or the s
ame is received less than 5 working days prior to the date of Certification
The Actual Test day story:
Mandatory Documents required to enter the test centre are:
Government photo identification card (Passport / Pan Card / Driving License / Vo
ter ID)
ID card issued by the training center/Company Identification card (Direct certif
ication participants)
I attended the certification on 5th December at a SAP Authorised Prometric Centr
e in Chennai, India. The test was supposed to start at 8 AM in the morning but d
ue to some technical issues, it was delayed by 15 minutes. To be frank, I was v
ery much tensed, some thoughts were haunting me:

Will I Pass? Yes, No, May be.2.jpg

What will happen if I fail?
Have I taken a risk by putting the money on certification?
Anyway, somehow I managed to get rid of that 15 minutes. We were around 14 peop
le who had come for different certifications. All were given individual systems
and instructions were dictated by Proctor (invigilator from SAP)
Some of the Instructions were terrifying: If you fail, you need to pay the amoun
t (without any discounts) for attending the re-certification exam. These proctor
s should avoid giving these types of instructions before the exam. Isn't it?
After entering all the credentials given by him, yes the long awaited screen has
come, where the FIRST question was visible.
Now something about that exam:
Exam contains 80 questions and total time is 180 minutes. I would say 3 hours is
very much needed for this certification.
Questions can be divided into 3 parts:
1) Multiple choice questions, where there is only one answer(Radio Button type)
2) Multiple choice questions, where there are more 1 answer (Check box type) (Yo
u will find the number of correct answers beside the question like 2 ,3 etc.)
3) A new type of question like below:(only one question like this).It contains 4
lines like :
A -- You will have a drop down against it with 5 options. You need to pick the c
orrect one that suits A
B -- You will have a drop down against it with 5 options. You need to pick the c
orrect one that suits B
C -- You will have a drop down against it with 5 options. You need to pick the c
orrect one that suits C
D -- You will have a drop down against it with 5 options. You need to pick the c
orrect one that suits D
Each correct answer carries 1 point and wrong answer carries 0 points. If you ha
ve questions which have more than 1 correct answer you will have to include all
the correct answers for that question. Remember there are no partial points.
From the first question onwards, you will have a NEXT question button with which
you can start sailing to the next questions.
From the second question onwards, you will have a PREVIOUS question button, wher
e you can go back to the previous questions and correct if necessary.
One more button is available called ASSIST is also available. When you click ass
ist button, it will show a block in the right side with 80 squares indicating ea
ch question number in each squares. The question which you are answering will be
a white background and the one answered will be in green background.
Also, there is a flagging option that is available for each question. If you are
not sure whether your answer is right, you can flag that question, and that wil
l notify you that you need to attend that question again. But the proctor was te
lling a drawback with the flagging option. In-case if any technical problem happ
ens, the flags you have set prior to that would be lost. So beware of this butto
n.
In-case if any technical problems happens in between your test, don t panic. There
will be some network person who will help you to retain the session and whateve
r answers that you have marked till that time will be safe. You can continue fro
m where you have stopped.
You will have a time notification in the right top corner. Keep an eye on that a
lways.
Some personal tips from my side:
Instead of using the assist button and flag option, use a piece of paper (ask Pr
octor to give one) and mark 1-80 numbers in that. Start answering from the first
question and Strike off the numbers in the paper, which you have answered with
100% confidence.

Try not to spend more time on individual questions, instead quickly keep answeri
ng the questions that you know from the available 80.
Once you have done with the first round, check the numbers in the paper that you
have not striked off, go back to that again, read it more carefully and continu
e the same process 2
3 times. Now you will have to take a judicious decision by
answering the questions which is less doubtful.
If you continue with the above steps, after 2.5 hours, you will find very few qu
estions yet to be answered, now dedicate the last 30 minutes exclusively for ans
wering that questions.
Also, as said before, some questions will have more than one correct answer. Ens
ure that you have marked all the correct answers. Don t fully depend on the Green
Background in the assist option as the background colour will become green even
if you mark 1 answer for a question which is supposed to have 3 right answers.
Read the question twice or thrice, there will be few tricky questions asked, whe
re you will be tempted to choose the wrong answers. Beware of such questions.
Keep yourself calm and concentrate on the questions.
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After 2 hours 55 minutes, a pop up will come indicating that you have just 5 min
utes for completion.
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It s time now and you will have to submit your answers. You can use the SUBMIT but
ton for this.
NOTE: This SUBMIT button will be there from the first question itself. Ensure th
at you don t click that by mistake in between the test.
I have not seen such a costly SUBMIT button in my life.
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If you don t submit even after 3 hours, session will automatically disconnect.
You will now see your result: Passed or Failed.
With God s Grace, I passed my exam.
Please be informed that 66% or above will be considered as Pass and SAP certific
ate would reach to your address in 4-6 weeks.
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You will also see the individual % of marks in each session and the overall tota
l.
Basically SAP divides your marks into following sessions:
Business Content
Reporting
Provisioning
Modelling
Security
Optimization.
Now how to prepare:
HANA 100(411 Pages) and HANA 300 (628 Pages) are the most important SAP training
materials. Like everybody, I would also say to go through each and every line i
n those docs twice or thrice. Questions can come up from anywhere.
Note:
a) TZHANA is an old version which has now been replaced with HANA 100.
b) Distributing the SAP learning materials for SAP courses is illegal and consti
tutes a copyright law violation.
c) It's good to go through SDN HANA space as well. That will help you to underst
and the practical issues which consultants are facing in the commercial projects
. Also if possible please go through the HANA developer guide.
d) BW knowledge is always good.
e) Apart from the core HANA topics, there will be some questions related to BODS
, BO and SQL as well.BODS questions would be straight forward.BO and SQL would b
e slightly tweaked.
These are the top 50 links which I would recommend it to you:

1) SP04 Features - SAP HANA Modeler - https://www.experiencesaphana.com/docs/DOC

-1798
2) DXC - https://websmp206.sap-ag.de/~sapidb/011000358700000421852012E
3) HANA Certification -- http://scn.sap.com/community/hana-in-memory/blog/2012/0
8/27/my-experience-on-hana-certification
4) Use HANA DSO in modeller -- http://www.saphana.com/community/blogs/blog/2012/
09/27/modeler-unplugged-episode-11--importing-bw-models-as-native-hana-models
5) Upgrade and migration BW on HANA -- http://www.saphana.com/community/blogs/bl
og/2013/05/03/upgrade-and-migration--bw-on-hana
6) HANA Cook Book -- https://cookbook.experiencesaphana.com/bw/operating-bw-on-h
ana/hana-database-administration/user-access-administration/user-provisioning/de
activatingactivating-users/
7) HANA Academy very good link -- http://saphanaacademy.blogspot.in/
8) Concepts in HANA -- http://scn.sap.com/community/hana-in-memory/blog?start=45
9) Concepts in HANA -- http://scn.sap.com/community/developer-center/hana/blog?s
tart=30
10) Data Types in HANA -- http://help.sap.com/hana/html/_csql_data_types.html
11) Changes after Migration -- http://www.saphana.com/docs/DOC-3723
12) Open SAP -- https://open.sap.com/course/hana1
13) BW on HANA and very Large Tables -- http://www.saphana.com/community/blogs/b
log/2013/04/15/bw-on-hana-and-very-large-tables
14) HANA Help.SAP.Com -- http://help.sap.com/saphelp_hanaplatform/helpdata/en/20
/cbb10c75191014b47ba845bfe499fe/content.htm?frameset=/en/2e/1ef8b4f4554739959886
e55d4c127b/frameset.htm
15) HANA Discussions -- http://www.saphana.com/community/implement/content?filte
rID=contentstatus%5Bpublished%5D~category%5Bdata-modeling%5D
16) HANA SQL Reference -- http://help.sap.com/hana/html/sql_import_from.html
17) HANA CE Functions -- http://inmemoryhana.blogspot.in/
18) HANA Interview Questions -- http://rajkumarsap.weebly.com/1/post/2012/10/sap
-hana-interview-questions.html (Good One)
19) BW Powered by HANA -- http://www.saphana.com/docs/DOC-2129
20) HANA Developer Edition download -- https://hanadeveditionsapicl.hana.ondeman
d.com/hanadevedition/
21) Indexing Video -- http://www.saphana.com/docs/DOC-3169
22) HANA SQL -- http://help.sap.com/hana/html/sql_grant.html
23) HANA Modelling YouTube Video -- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZZvx2BemlvM&f
eature=youtu.be&goback=.gde_3683024_member_210180594
24) HANA Videos -- http://www.saphana.com/community/hana-academy
25) Common errors while using HANA Studio -- http://scn.sap.com/docs/DOC-47603
26) HANA Real World Example -- http://www.saphana.com/community/blogs/blog/2013/
08/28/sap-hana-live-real-world-example
27) Help.Sap.Com for HANA -- http://help.sap.com/hana_platform#section7
28) HANA for Beginners --- http://www.saphana.com/community/blogs/blog/2012/09/0
7/sap-hana-for-beginners
29) HANA materials and interview questions -- http://sapbobwbi.blogspot.in/2013/
09/sap-hana-interview-questions-2.html (Good One)
http://sapbobwbi.blogspot.in/2013/09/sap-hana-interview-questions-1.html (Good
One)
30) Free Access to HANA sandbox -- http://sapignite.com/free-access-to-sap-hanasandbox-for-your-first-hana-experience/
31) [Removed]
32) HANA Material Links -- http://dailylearnbw.wordpress.com/2012/11/15/if-you-p
lan-to-write-hana-certification-exam-check-this-out/
33) HANA Developer centre -- http://scn.sap.com/community/developer-center/hana?
rid=/webcontent/uuid/c022341c-5ed1-2e10-0b98-9b6a3314dd25
34) HANA Training Materials -- http://www.gobookeee.com/sap-hana-training-materi
al/
35) HANA Certification Pathways -- http://www.hanageeks.com/2013/05/sap-hana-cer
tification-pathways.html
36) Free HANA Tutorials -- http://www.freehanatutorials.com/

37) SCN Discussions -- http://scn.sap.com/thread/3194590

38) Succeed HANA Certification -- http://www.thesapjobs.com/sap-hana-certificati
on/
39) SCN Discussions -- http://scn.sap.com/community/developer-center/hana/blog/2
013/06/25/want-to-learn-sap-hanawhere-to-startcertification
40) HANA Questions -- http://sapdairy.blogspot.in/2013/05/sap-hana-certification
-questions.html (Good One)
41) HANA Links -- http://scn.sap.com/community/hana-in-memory/blog/2012/08/27/my
-experience-on-hana-certification
42) Certifications sample Questions -- http://www.sap-school.com/certificationqu
estionsHANA.html (Good One)
43) SCN Discussions -- http://scn.sap.com/thread/2131589
44) HANA services Library -- http://scn.sap.com/docs/DOC-46745
45) BW on HANA FAQ -- http://www.saphana.com/community/learn/solutions/net-weave
r-bw/bwonhanafaq
46) Business Suite on HANA FAQ -- http://www.saphana.com/community/learn/solutio
ns/sap-business-suite-on-hana/business-suite-on-hana-faq/content
47) BW 7.4 on HANA -- http://scn.sap.com/docs/DOC-35002
48) HANA Blogs -- http://www.saphana.com/community/blogs/blog/2012/06/20/does-sa
p-hana-replace-bw-hint-no--part-2
49) HANA Courses -- http://scn.sap.com/docs/DOC-39531
50) HANA Reference for Developers -- http://scn.sap.com/community/hana-in-memory
/blog/2013/08/17/hana-reference-for-developers--links-and-sap-notespart-2#commen
t-381371
For those who want a real in depth understanding on the HANA concepts, I would s
uggest to go through the following PACKT PUBLISHING(www.packtpub.com) ebooks/boo
ks:
SAP HANA Cook Book
Software Development on the SAP HANA Platform
SAP HANA Starter
Note: Taking the HANA certification is always good but don't presume that it wil
l take you directly to a HANA job.
Yes, with the 'CLOUD' also coming into picture, job opportunities will increase,
for sure!
On a lighter note: As I told in the beginning of this blog, there was around 15
minutes delay before the exam. I was very much tensed and decided to draw a pict
ure to relax myself. Finally I had completed a beautiful picture and am dedicati
ng this to all the members here in SDN who are preparing for certification.
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Seeing this, hope you all can make out how good artist I am.
Anyway Jokes apart, Prepare seriously for your exam. Do your part well and the r
est God will take care.
Just think only one point: If many 100 s can pass the HANA exam, WHY CAN T I.
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All the best to those who are going to prepare for the exam!
Enjoy HANA!
Regards,
Prabhith
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Sunil Kumar Koneru
Sunil Kumar Koneru Dec 16, 2013 6:36 AM
Hi Prabhith,
Thanks for sharing the info..
Regards
Sunil
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Ganesh Bothe
Ganesh Bothe Dec 16, 2013 6:42 AM
Hi,
Very Good Blog...Thanks for sharing..It will helful to many.
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seshu p
seshu p Dec 16, 2013 6:48 AM
Congrats and Thanks for sharing your Experience.
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Manna Das
Manna Das Dec 16, 2013 11:32 AM
Thanks for sharing your roller coaster ride experience with us .
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prabhith prabhakaran
prabhith prabhakaran Dec 16, 2013 12:33 PM
Thanks guys for ur feed back...:)
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Sushant Tiwarekar
Sushant Tiwarekar Dec 16, 2013 6:31 PM
Thanks for sharing.
Regards,
Sushant
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NAGA SATISH
NAGA SATISH Dec 16, 2013 11:34 PM
Hi Prabhakaran,
Congratulations first, thanks for sharing your experience & nice painting as wel
l.
I have a question // As you said Three types of questions 1, 2, 3
i) Do you have idea No of questions from 1, 2, 3. out of 80 questions.
ii) will you please give an example for type 3 question.
Best regards,
Naga.
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ROHIT TEWATIA
ROHIT TEWATIA Dec 17, 2013 8:53 AM

Congrats Prabhith. And thanks for sharing the valuable Docs & the experience.
Regards,
Rohit.
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prabhith prabhakaran
prabhith prabhakaran Dec 17, 2013 9:40 AM
Hi,
Thanks a lot for your comments.
@Naga_Babu: I dont remember the exact number of questions that can be categorize
d into type 1 and type 2, but type 1 questions were more.
There was only 1 question of type3:
Question: Select the best option from Column B(5 choice within a drop down box)
that suits to the entry in column A.
Test.png
Expected Answer against Sachin Tendulkar --> Cricket
Lionel Messi --> Football.
Hope its clear!
Regards,
Prabhith
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Ramanjaneyulu Korrapati
Ramanjaneyulu Korrapati Dec 17, 2013 12:28 PM
Congrats to being HANA Certified consultant.
Its more useful.Thanks for sharing your valuable information for us.
Thanks
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mahesh v
mahesh v Dec 18, 2013 7:43 AM
Congrats Prabith,
Thanks a lot for the detailed blog on certification, this blog will help a lot o
f aspirants in SAP certification. May be the picture you drawn helped you in pas
sing the certification. so get patent for the picture and start side business...
thanks,
mahesh
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anitha bochala
anitha bochala Dec 18, 2013 11:26 PM
Prabith,
Congratulations!!
Thank you very much for the detailed blog!!! Its really amazing that you could r
emember and blog to the minutest detail !!!
When I looked at the sample questionnaire for HANA certification, every thing se

emed to be scenario based.

Will you be able to give any hint on how many questions were purely scenario bas
ed.
Thanks
Anitha
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prabhith prabhakaran
prabhith prabhakaran Dec 19, 2013 6:36 PM (in response to anitha bochala)
Hi,
Thanks a lot for your comments.
I din't really understand what you meant by Scenario Based.
Yes, there were some questions which needs some practical experience especially
on the analytical previlage and sql part.
Regards
Prabhith
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Kumaraguru Mani
Kumaraguru Mani Dec 19, 2013 6:30 AM
Hi Prabit
Congratulations!!
The information that you have provided here is very useful. I have a question, I
would request you to help me
I have been working as PLM consultant for past 6 years and now I want to change
my career in SAP HANA and planning to do the certification in HANA, But, I came
to know from your forums that we need a 1 year experiance in HANA or other SAP p
roduct as prerequisites for taking this exam, which would help to get the approv
al from SAP, now my question is since I have experience in PLM technical consult
ant, is this possible for me to take the HANA certification. I don't have any SA
P experience.
Regards
Kumaraguru.M
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Keerthan Shetty
Keerthan Shetty Dec 19, 2013 5:56 AM
Hi Prabit
Congratulations!!!
This was a wonderful blog for those who are planning for certification in HANA a
nd thanks for sharing useful links at the end of the blog
.Many thanks for sharing your experience.
Best Regards
Keerthan Shetty
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Kumaraguru Mani
Kumaraguru Mani Dec 19, 2013 1:17 PM
Hi Prabit
Congratulations!!
The information that you have provided here is very useful. I have a question, I
would request you to help me
I have been working as PLM consultant for past 6 years and now I want to change
my career in SAP HANA and planning to do the certification in HANA, But, I came
to know from your forums that we need a 1 year experiance in HANA or other SAP p
roduct as prerequisites for taking this exam, which would help to get the approv
al from SAP, now my question is since I have experience in PLM technical consult
ant, is this possible for me to take the HANA certification. I don't have any SA
P experience.
Regards
Kumaraguru.M
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prabhith prabhakaran
prabhith prabhakaran Dec 19, 2013 6:33 PM (in response to Kumaraguru Mani)
@Kumaraguru_Mani,
As per my understanding, if you are appearing for the certification without atte
nding any SAP course/training, you need to fulfill the following criteria.
You need minimum 1 year of HANA implementation experience or 2 years of Support
experience with minimum of 6 months experience in the module and version in whic
h you wish to take up certification.
If you are appearing from your company side,I am not sure about the process..
It would be great if you can sent a mail to education.india@sap.com
If you want, we can discuss it offline aswell.
Regards,
Prabhith
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Kumaraguru Mani
Kumaraguru Mani Dec 20, 2013 12:24 PM (in response to prabhith prabhakaran)
Hi Prabhith,
Thanks for your response. Yes, We can discuss offline.Can you give me your conta
ct # so that I can call you and discuss.
My Contact # 9841790146.
Regards
Kumaraguru. M
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sravandeep potula
sravandeep potula Aug 26, 2014 5:07 AM (in response to prabhith prabhakaran)
Hi Prabhith,
Could we have a offline discussion on this, as I do need some more clarification
regarding the certification.

Could you please get in touch with me at sravanp400@gmail.com

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Vivek Singh Bhoj
Vivek Singh Bhoj Dec 20, 2013 3:05 PM
Congrats Prabhith
Regards,
Vivek
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Aditya Varrier
Aditya Varrier Dec 20, 2013 4:17 PM
Hi Prabhith,
Congrats on your certification.
nice, funny and informative blog, liked the pic of boy in his last 5 minute and
rightly said "Costliest SUBMIT button"
Cheers,
Aditya V
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Lethika K
Lethika K Dec 23, 2013 12:26 PM
Hi,
Good one for those who are preparing for HANA certification.
Kind Regards,
LK..
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Sivarajan Kaliappan
Sivarajan Kaliappan Jan 31, 2014 12:24 PM
Excellent tips!! Thanks for sharing Prabhith!!
Is it necessary to go through all the exercises that are given at the back of ev
ery unit/ lesson? Bcos I ve been working in various POCs and small projects in my
company, so I don t feel like going through some of them which are very basic, wil
l I miss out something if I do so?
What s your thoughts on this? Even I m planning for a direct certification, hopefull
y it will happen in a month or so you suggestion will help me in saving a lot of
preparation time
Siva
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Balwant Singh
Balwant Singh Jan 31, 2014 1:13 PM (in response to Sivarajan Kaliappan)
Hi Shiv,
I had cleared the HANA certification with 97% score last year.The POCs and small
projects already done would definitely help you.As per me its not necessarry to
go through all excercises at the back of every unit/lesson to clear the certifi
cation.Just cover topics on Fuzzy /RDS as well
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Sivarajan Kaliappan
Sivarajan Kaliappan Jan 31, 2014 1:25 PM (in response to Balwant Singh)
Thanks a lot Balwant

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Nayab hussain
Nayab hussain Feb 1, 2014 1:37 PM
hi prabith,
whats the exam cost?
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Vinay Vishwanath
Vinay Vishwanath Jan 12, 2015 9:14 AM
Thanks for sharing your experience. This would surely help.
Cheers,
Vinay
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