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Feeling
Appreciated
Let’s put ourselves in the customer’s Many technicians are in a hurry as well,
driver’s seat. First, there is the so the customer may be left to try to
inconvenience. If the service or repair decipher automotive short-hand (R&R)
will only take a few hours the car owner contained on the repair order as their
might choose to wait. Most shops can’t only explanation. And here you are, an
compete for the comfort and amenities of expert in your field, trying to explain a
the lounges and coffee bars available at complex procedure to someone who
Bill Sau most dealerships. Have you tried sitting in never even took the time to read the
Founde
er the chairs in your waiting area for an hour quick guide to the owner’s manual. The
r or two? Some shops we know address this knowledge gap between an automotive
Jeff Sweet problem by providing a $5 gift certificate repair professional and a car owner is
President
to a nearby fast food outlet—in effect, probably larger than any other profession,
borrowing someone else’s waiting area. including the doctor/patient relationship.
Who doesn’t like to feel appreciated? So car owners expect the experience of
Whether it is having your customers Second, there is the cost. Vehicles are repairing or maintaining their vehicle will
appreciate the work you do or having your more complex and there may be the need be inconvenient, costly and mysterious.
boss give you an ‘atta-boy’ or ‘atta-girl,’ for dealer-only parts. A repair bill in excess And most of the time, we meet those
we all like to be appreciated. of $500 is not uncommon, even when you expectations!
have done a lot of extra work to find the
And by the way, there is a definite lowest cost part. So now you’re asking the But our hope is that there are times when
link between employee appreciation car owner to write the largest check of the you do receive the acknowledgement you
and customer appreciation. There is a month (after their mortgage or rent), and deserve for the good work you do. Today a
saying that “people like to shop where for what? Just to get back to where they lot of that acknowledgement shows up on
people like to work.” We can all think of were before the problem or to prevent a the Internet. Many sites, such as Google
businesses we have stopped frequenting future problem? It is not as if they get to and Yahoo, offer customers a place to post
because of the negative attitudes of the go home with a flat-screen TV that they reviews. Here are some comments we
employees, which, in many cases, were can now enjoy more than the old one they found posted about Identifix subscribers:
brought on by the negative attitude replaced. Yes, a necessary expense, but
of management. not very rewarding. It doesn’t put them “I’ve tried many tire shops, and they may
in a mind to say ‘thank you,’ regardless of not always be the cheapest. However, they
It is just our opinion, but we wonder if the how hard you worked to get the job done are honest and provide good service.”
automotive service business is one of the right for the lowest possible cost.
least appreciated in the economy. It starts “They run a great shop. Good, reliable
with the work we perform. How many Finally, when the customer shows up at automobile mechanic services are
people will wake up tomorrow and say, the end of the day, along with everyone getting hard to find these days. This shop
“What a great day—I’m finally taking my else, it limits the amount of time you can qualifies!”
car in for repair!” Among the most favored spend explaining what you did, and even
activities, getting your car worked on has less time to convey your appreciation for
to rank near the bottom. their business. - continued on page 2
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“They got our car in quickly, and after an hour when most auto “I used to like going to them for car repairs. Their
repair shops are closed. Turn-around time was quick, and they rates are reasonable (compared to everyone else -
were thorough in checking it out. Very fair pricing, as well! We’d we all know car repairs are astronomical in general),
happily bring our car back again!” and it SEEMED like they know what they’re doing, but
now I’m not so sure. I had my car in their shop THREE times
“Good service, honest recommendations!” and it eventually took a (very expensive) trip to the dealer
to diagnose a head gasket problem. It took 6 months and
“They came and picked up my car off the beltline and towed it several cases of me being stranded for them to finally admit
to their shop; it didn’t take more than 15 minutes until the tow they couldn’t help me. The dealer had it figured out with
truck driver showed up. They started on the repair right when one look and had no idea why they couldn’t figure it out. I
we got back to the shop, they gave me a ride home and said that don’t feel as if I can trust them anymore.”
they would have the fuel pump completed by the next day. They
gave me an estimate on the parts and labor. They next day they Sadly, it only takes one bad experience to lose a customer
came to my house, picked me up and took me back to the shop and your reputation. That is why we really appreciate the
to pick up my car. The estimate was right on. They also did a free opportunity to provide you with the information you need
inspection on my car to tell me what needed to be replaced. I through Identifix to enhance your reputation. Consider this
will for sure contact them again for any repair that I need.” unsolicited email we received on September 1st from Dan
Walker of Dan’s Auto Center in Oakhurst, California, near
“They were honest! My ‘check engine’ light was on, but they said Yosemite Park. Dan uses both the Hotline and Direct-Hit.
the part was fine so they didn’t want to replace it yet. They could
have just told me it needed to be replaced and I wouldn’t have “Just a quick note to say ‘thanks a ton’ for your service.
known any better. They fixed up my other issues quickly and the Yesterday I had a customer who was on vacation stop in for
work was great. I am somewhat new to the area and had not yet a crank/no start problem on their 2004 GMC Diesel pickup.
found someone I really trusted. I will bring my car to them for I accessed Identifix and it gave me some clues. I went to
EVERYTHING from now on!” their campsite to save them having to be towed and worked
the primer pump. Right away, we heard a hissing noise by
“We recently brought our vehicle here to get its brakes fixed. the fuel filter and then some diesel fuel came running out.
This was not the cheapest place to have the repairs done, but I reached down and was able to get about 1/8th of a turn
the service was great and worth the little bit of extra money. The on the spin-on filter and the system stopped leaking. After
workers were able to fit us in even though they were on a tight that, the engine fired right up. I went back to the shop and
schedule. They were very friendly and did an awesome job. The told my wife, Sally (who works in the office) that, once again,
service here is very reliable! “ Identifix came to the rescue. I tell her quite often that the
top three loves in my life, in the order of importance, are
“They broke something on my car, took full responsibility and Jesus Christ, her and Identifix. She laughs every time I tell
fixed it—no problems. The way customer service should be!” her that! Your service is invaluable. I really appreciate how
the descriptions identify the color of the wires, what voltage
When we read posts of appreciation like this, the message to expect, where the component is located, etc. Thanks for
comes through clear. Car owners aren’t looking for the cheapest being there for us in the trenches!!”
place to get their car repaired—for most, the words ‘honesty’
and ‘trust’ are more important. One post (about a shop who is Our thanks to Dan for his kind comments. As with all of us,
not one of our subscribers) shows just how quickly the ‘honesty’ this is what motivates us to do our best possible job.
and ‘trust’ can be lost.
And as another year ends, we want to send our deepest
appreciation to each of you, for your friendship and your
business. We wish you and yours a joyous New Year.
Auto Trivia

What year did


Hyundai export its —Jeff and Bill
first production
vehicle (not in the US)? TO CONTACT US
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Impala Gauges
gauges swept back and forth. We started technician removed half of the data wires
to get suspicious of the IPC. I wanted to from the splice pack, leaving the IPC and
look at the coolant temperature and fuel PCM circuits in place with the shorting bar.
level values in IPC data on the scan tool The car was put outside to get cold.
while the condition was present, but
that data was not available on the scan The next day, the gauges did not sweep
tool. Since the problem only occurred on the cold start, so we knew that
when the vehicle was cold, the technician whatever was causing the problem had
placed the IPC in the freezer overnight been disconnected from the splice pack.
and left the vehicle in the shop so it would The technician reinstalled wires into the
remain warm. splice pack until the symptom returned.
John Esau, GM Specialist The wire for the sensing diagnostic
is certified ASE Master + L1, A/C Refrigerant The next day, with a frozen IPC installed, module (SDM) was the one that brought
& Recycling. the symptom was gone. This made it the symptom back.
seem like the IPC was not the cause of the
“Instrumentation problems. It’s a problem. Then we started to wonder if With the wire back in the splice pack, and
long story.” That was the symptom the PCM was sending fluctuating data to the SDM disconnected, the gauges did not
description submitted to our Repair the IPC, despite the stable scan tool data. sweep when the car was cold. This meant
Hotline. Though this seemed unlikely, none of there was nothing interfering on the
the other modules in the vehicle should wire itself. The SDM powers and ground
The long story involved a 2003 Chevrolet influence these gauges. We disconnected were tested when cold and the symptom
Impala with fuel and temperature gauges the PCM while the gauges were sweeping present; they were all good.
that would sweep back and forth when back and forth, and they stopped
the ignition was first turned on when sweeping. In the end, the SDM was causing the
the vehicle was cold. The gauges would gauge sweeping problem. The SDM had
sweep a few times and then begin So it seemed like the PCM was causing been interfering with the temperature
working normally. The technician had the gauges to sweep, but I wondered and fuel level data that was being sent
tried a number of tests but still had not if something was affecting the data from the PCM to the IPC. The technician
found the root cause. messages from the PCM to the IPC when replaced the defective SDM and the car
the vehicle was cold. The technician had was fixed.
We started by looking at the trouble already replaced the body control module
codes in all of the modules. There were for an unrelated problem, so that was
u d su p
plenty of codes, but none were related not likely to be the problem. He had also pro p
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to our problem. We checked for scan checked for add-on accessories that might
or
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tool communication with all modules on be tapped into the Class 2 serial data
of

the vehicle and all were communicating circuits and found none.
properly.
We needed a quick way to rule out each
Next, we looked at the fuel level and module interfering with the PCM to IPC
the engine coolant temperature in the communication. Luckily, this vehicle has
powertrain control module (PCM) data a splice pack connector that is a central
while the condition was present. The connection point to tie all of the modules’
PCM sends Class 2 serial data messages Class 2 serial data circuits together. The
through a data circuit to the instrument splice pack (SP205), located under the left Connect with Identifix on
panel cluster (IPC), indicating the fuel side of the dash, uses a shorting bar to
level and engine coolant temperature. connect all of the data wires together into Facebook, MySpace
The values did not fluctuate at all as the one circuit. To make progress quickly, the and Twitter!
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Montero
Low Power
Step 2: The technician checked the test driving the vehicle, the same two
volume air flow sensor input to the PCM. codes reset, and the fuel trims once again
It was reading slightly high, at 40 hertz, maxxed out at 12.5 percent.
which (if anything) should cause the
vehicle to run rich. Step 8: There was one sensor left to test,
the manifold differential pressure (MDP)
Step 3: The barometric pressure sensor sensor. Normally, this sensor is used to
and temperature sensor inputs were monitor the exhaust gas recirculation
checked; they were normal. (EGR) valve operation, but it is an input to
the PCM that could cause a lean condition
Step 4: The fuel pressure was tested; it based on the negative pressure in the
Tom Vadnais, Chrysler and Mitsubishi read normal at 48 psi, with the vacuum intake manifold (vacuum). The normal
Specialist, is certified ASE Master + L1, A/C hose off of the pressure regulator. reading at ‘key on/engine off’ would be
Recovery & Recycling.
in the range of 4 volts. In this case, the
I recently had a call on a Mitsubishi Step 5: The intake system was smoke voltage was reading under 3 volts at ‘key
Montero with codes P0171 and P0174 tested for vacuum leaks; none were found. on/engine off.’
stored in memory and a low power
complaint, indicating a lean condition Step 6: I suggested disconnecting a Step 9: I asked the tech to disconnect
on both banks. vacuum line and adding some additional the sensor and jump the signal wire to
fuel while monitoring the O2 sensors and the 5-volt reference wire and the voltage
Step 1: We checked the O2 sensor activity long term fuel trim. The vehicle reacted on the signal wire went up to 5 volts.
and the fuel trim numbers. The O2 sensors positively, the O2 sensor voltage went up,
were switching, but the long term fuel and the long term fuel trims came down. Step 10: I also asked him to check the
trims on both banks were positive at 12.5 The vehicle had a noticeable increase in vacuum hose and the vacuum port on
percent, indicating that the powertrain power when adding the fuel. the intake; everything appeared clear.
control module (PCM) was adding the
maximum amount of fuel as programmed. Step 7: At this point, the tech attempted The Fix: The technician replaced the
Confirming this, we could see that the cleaning the fuel injectors. There was an sensor, and the fuel trims went back to
injector ‘on time’ was increasing above increase in performance. But after clearing normal.
3 milliseconds. the fault codes and the fuel trims and

Silverado
Recently I was working with a tech from well as to the electronic brake control module
northern Minnesota on a 2000 Silverado. (EBCM) for rear speed signal (the rear wheels
The anti-lock brake light was on and a code are on one channel for braking unlike the front
C0235 was stored. The tech said that the chart wheels that are controlled on two separate
indicated it was a rear speed sensor code but channels). For the most part, there are two
this truck doesn’t have rear speed sensors. different ways modules share information:
1) By sending the information to another
This is a good example of different systems module by way of data line and, 2) By using a
sharing information. In this case, the speed dedicated wire, as in the case of this Silverado
sensor on the transmission or transfer case and the rear speed signal.
sends a signal to the powertrain control
module (PCM), which then uses the reading On the Silverado, the PCM has a yellow/black
for transmission shifting and other calculations. wire that sends a pulsed voltage signal to
Kevin Caple, GM Specialist, It also sends the reading to the dash cluster the EBCM. The EBCM counts the pulses to
is certified GM Driveability, Diagnostic for speedometer and odometer operation, as determine the rear wheel speed.
& Emissions, ASE Master + L1. - continued on page 6
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“Close” Is Not
Good Enough
Testing for the no-start problem resumed. All of the 5-volt references were checked
There was no security light, so it was and confirmed to be OK, as were the ECM
not an immobilizer system problem. powers and grounds. The ECM was then
Attempting to check for engine RPM replaced but yielded no fix. The same
while cranking, the scan tool would stop starting problems were present and the
communicating, so that was no help. same P1229 code reset instantly with the
The fuel pressure was 51 psi, which is key ‘on.’ When the 5-volt references were
good. Fuel quality was also tested. The re-checked at the ECM, all the circuits
engine had good spark and injector pulse. measured 3.8 volts with the exception
The spark plugs were getting wet and of terminal 91, which read 5.0 volts.
we found that with the fuel pump fuse The technician working on the vehicle
Paul Kujawa, Asian Specialist,
is certified Nissan Master, ASE Master + L1. removed, the engine would start and run thought that 3.8 volts was “close enough”
if supplemental fuel was supplied. The fuel to 5.0 volts, and therefore, told us that the
pump fuse was re-installed while it was 5-volt references were good. Wrong!
Vehicle: The vehicle referred to in this running on supplemental fuel and then
article is a 2004 Nissan Titan. However, the engine stayed running. At this point, The related sensors were then unplugged
this problem could occur on just about it would not accelerate above 1200 RPM one at a time as the voltage was being
any vehicle. due to the P1229 power supply code for monitored. When the A/C refrigerant
the APP sensor. The engine would lose pressure sensor was unplugged, the full
Symptom: This vehicle came in as a spark at times as well. 5-volt reference returned and the engine
crank, no-start, and a stored sensor started and ran fine. The A/C pressure
power supply code P1229. With the P1229 code coming back sensor was replaced and the vehicle was
instantly, the focus was back on this code. fixed.
Code P1229 refers to the 5-volt The next step was to check all of the 5-volt
reference used by the accelerator pedal reference circuits at the ECM terminals 48, We have seen a shorted 5-volt reference
position (APP) sensor 1, APP sensor 49, 68, 90, and 91. If any 5-volt reference several times on many different vehicles,
2, the evaporative emissions (EVAP) circuit was low, the sensor(s) receiving that commonly resulting in a no-start with no
control system pressure sensor, the reference was to be unplugged to see if it spark, no injector pulse, no malfunction
A/C refrigerant pressure sensor and would return. A low circuit would indicate indicator light on, and no communication
the power steering pressure sensor. a possible defective sensor shorting out with the scan tool—basically shutting
The 5-volt reference for the APP sensor the 5-volt reference. the ECM down. In this case, the 5-volt
checked good; yet after the code P1229 reference was not pulled all the way
was cleared, it would come right back. 5-volt reference wires checked: to ground so it did not cause the ECM
to completely shut down, but it clearly
Diagnosis: Failure of the engine control -EVAP control system pressure sensor: Sky affected its operation.
module (ECM) relay is very common and blue wire was checked at terminal 48 of
causes low voltage supply to the ECM, the ECM. If you encounter this problem, remember
so a test of the battery voltage supply to to watch out for a partially shorted 5-volt
the mass air flow (MAF) sensor’s brown -A/C refrigerant pressure sensor: Red/ reference, and don’t assume that 3.8 volts
wire was performed and it showed good yellow wire was checked at terminal 49. is “close enough.”
battery voltage. Trivia: 1976-the Pony. -Power steering pressure sensor: White/
This is a convenient place to test power blue wire was checked at terminal 68.
from the ECM relay. The ECM relay was
also swapped with a matching relay -APP1 sensor: Blue wire was checked at Remember, there is never an
terminal 90.
in the intelligent power distribution additional Hotline charge when
module (IPDM), but that yielded no -APP2 sensor: White/red wire was checked
answers either. at terminal 91.
you call to tell us what fixed
the vehicle!
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-Silverado from page 4

Knowing how this information is transferred can help with was tested and found to be 10.0 volts. Great—a broken wire or bad
diagnostics. The trouble code chart directed us to disconnect connection. If there had been no voltage at the PCM as well, we
the EBCM and check voltage on the yellow/black wire. That is the would have tested the yellow/black wire for a short to ground or to
clue to the direction the voltage is coming from. Sometimes the another wire before condemning the PCM.
sending module will produce a pulsing voltage. Other times the
receiving module will send out voltage and the module sending Most of today’s cars and trucks are using shared information in
the signal will pulse it to ground (this sounds more confusing than as many systems as possible. This greatly reduces the cost and
it is). It will be very helpful to skim through the flow chart to try complexity of extra sensors, connections and miles of wiring, not
to determine which way the voltage is traveling. Be sure the flow to mention it can help shorten diagnostic time like it did on this
chart is not asking you to check for voltage, only to have the next Silverado. Seeing that the speedometer worked meant not having
line say, ‘Repair the wire shorted to voltage.’ to check the speed sensor, reluctor, or wires and connections to the
PCM. We’ll be sure to keep sharing the latest information with you
In the case of the Silverado, the PCM should put out about 10.0 and as you share information back with us. This closes the loop and
volts to the EBCM. A quick voltage test at the EBCM revealed no helps pinpoint where the problem spots are on each vehicle.
voltage on the yellow/black wire. Next, the voltage at the PCM

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