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OIA-14-E-111
18 June 2014
Mr Jordan Williams Executive Director New Zealand Taxpayers Union Incorporated PO Box 10518 The Terrace 6143 Wellington
Dear Jordan
OFFICIAL INFORMATION REQUEST AUSTRALIAN CONTROLLED BURNING
Thank you for your letter of 24th May 2014 asking for additional information and seeking clarification on various matters raised in my previous letter to you.
I apologise for not acknowledging your letter of the 20th May; it was an oversight caused by the overlap in that letter and your letter of the 24th. Both letters have been treated as additional requests for official information.
1.0 Questions asked in section two of your letter of 24th May.
The department has taken advantage of the opportunity to be involved in the Victoria (Australian) fuel reduction burn program to broaden the experience base for staff involved in fire fighting. The acquisition of controlled burning qualifications, although necessary for issuing permits to farmers for land clearing purposes, was incidental to the main objectives of developing leadership qualities of our crew leaders in high stress situations, enabling staff to experience a variety of fire behaviour in a controlled setting, applying fire control and suppression methods in different circumstances and generally allow staff to experience the intensity associated with large fire events and practise the appropriate responses.
The same scale and intensity of fire is rarely experienced in New Zealand. Fires are generally of short duration and it is difficult to get the experience that comes out of the involvement in the Australian fuel reduction burn program. On those occasions when large fire events do occur in New Zealand the experience gained in Australia has proven to be invaluable.
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To specifically answer the questions you have asked; (a) As stated above the departments staff are required to write permits for farmers wishing to utilise fire as a method of land clearance within the one kilometre fire safety margin of Public Conservation land. These are primarily small areas of vegetation cover on private property and do not provide the opportunity to develop the skill sets to the required levels. (b) With the reduction in the use of fire as a land clearance method the number of people with these skills is declining and involvement in the Australian fuel reduction burn program is seen as the most effective way of maintaining the skill sets at an appropriate level. (c) As described above the Departments staff do write permits for burns on private property and will assist if the property owner is agreeable. These opportunities can be used to compliment the Australian experience, but do not provide the experienced and expert levels of instruction and supervision that is available in Australia. (d) Training to the same level is not available in New Zealand. (e) No, because it is not readily available in New Zealand.
The training available through the fuel reduction burn program is also relevant from the point of view that the department is often requested to provide fire fighters for deployments to Australia, Canada and the United States of America. The experience gained in Australia enables the staff to operate safely and effectively in these countries in what can be, extreme fire environments.
2.0 Section Three of your letter of the 24th May Additional Requests. (a) The documents mentioned in my previous letter are attached. (b) I have enclosed the expense summaries for 2012 and 2014 which shows the breakdown in costs for each year. For the 2014 year you should add $52,800 which is the allowances cost calculated at the rate of $200 per person (22 staff) for twelve working days of the training exercise. In addition, the amounts to be recovered from the Australian Agencies (they subsidise our involvement) is not shown and is $67,200 for the 2012 year and estimated at $52,800 for the 2012 year. (c) The cost of staff time is shown on the attached expense summaries ($76,057 for 2012 and $103,828 for 2014). Salaries are calculated on the basis of individual hourly rates which will vary across the staff involved and the provision of a daily allowance in lieu of overtime and other allowances in the collective employment contract which amounts to $200 per day worked. (d) Yes, staff time was included in the figures provided in my earlier letter with the exception of the 2014 figure which was provisional at that time.
Kind regards
Damian Coutts Director Conservation Services Lower North Island