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March13,2014
HotorNot?FindOutHowtoCalculateComponentHeat
andWhyYouShould
March3,2014ByMikeSzczys44Comments
Howhotareyourkeycomponentsgetting?Theresagoodchanceyouvebuiltaprojectandthought:WellIguessIbetter
slapaheatsinkintheretobesafe.Butwhenworkingonamorerefinedbuildyoureallyneedtocalculateheatdissipation
toensurereliability.Thisisactuallynottoughatall.Thenumbersarerightthereinthedatasheet.Yes,thatdatasheetpacked
withnumber,figures,tables,graphs,slogans,marketingstatements,ordernumbersyouknowrightwheretolook,dont
you?
Hackadayhasyoucoveredonthisone.Inunder10minutes[BilHerd]willnotonlyshowhoweasythesecalculationsare,
helltellyouwheretolookinthedatasheetstogettheinfoyouneedquickly.
Above,[Bil]usedhisbenchasawhiteboardtoillustratethethermalresistanceequation.Inthiscaseeachresistorsymbol
representspartoftheheatdissipation.Youmustconsiderallplaceswhereheatcanbetransferred:(fromlefttoright)the
componentdie(junction)tothecomponentcase,thecomponentcasetoaheatsink,andtheheatsinktoambientair.He
illustrateseachofthesedissipationpointsinthevideo.
CalculatethermalresistanceThetaJunctionto
CaseTjc
Anexampleofthejunctiontocaseisshowntotheright.ThisisaTO3casewhichhashadthelidcutoff.Itsamuch
simplerwaytolookatachipdiethantryingtodecapacomponentwithaplasticcase.
MakewiththeMathAlready!
Okay,okay,weregettingthere.Themathisnothardjustmultiplicationandaddition,sohangonaminutemore.
Gatherthefollowingvalues:maximumpoweryouplantousewiththiscomponent,maximumheatratingofthepart,
maximumambientairtemperatureinwhichthiscomponentwillbeused,andthethetavaluesfromthedatasheets.Theta,
whichisameasureofdegreesperwatt,isoftenlistedasasymbol:Multiplythetabythemaxwattageandyouwillknow
howmuchtemperaturetoaddtoyourequation
Datasheets:FindingandTemperature
Because[Bil]doessuchagreatjobinthevideoweregivingyouthequickversionhere.Temperaturegenerating
componentswillincludeamaximumoperatingtemperatureliketheoneshownbelow(clickthroughforfulldatasheet)which
isforalinearregulator:
ThethetaforJuntiontoCaseisfoundabitfurtherdownthesamedatasheetintheElectricalCharacteristics
table.DatasheetswillalsoprovideaJunctiontoAmbientvalue(alsoshownbelowbutnotusedinourcalculations)used
tocalculatehowmuchpoweryoucanusewithoutanytypeofactiveorpassivecooling.Thisanswersthequestionof:doI
needaheatsink?.
Finally,youwanttolookatvaluesfromtheheatsinkbeingused.[Bil]looksatthedatasheetofaheatsinkwhichlistsa
thermalresistanceof25.8withthechartbelowontheleftshowinghowthatnumbermaybealteredwithmovingair(a
fan).Thecharttotherightcoverstheuseofinterfaceagentslikethermalgrease,andamicapad(forelectricalinsulation)
withthermalgrease.Bothofthosevaluesarecircledbutonlyonewillbeusedinthecalculation.
PuttingItAllTogether
Ifweassumeanambientairtemperatureof38C(100F)andamaximumpowerof2Wallofthenumbersweneedhave
beencollected.
MaxTemp=Junction+Mica/Grease+HeatSink+Ambient
MaxTemp=(4*2W)+(0.4*2W)+(25*2W)+38
MaxTemp=8+0.8+50+38
MaxTemp=96.8
Themaximumtemperatureratingforthispartis125C,whichmeansthatthispartisbeingproperlycooled.[Bil]goesone
stepfurtherinthevideo,showinghowtocalculatehowmuchmorereliabletheproperlycooledpartwillbe.
Resources
TexasInstrumentsLM317NDatasheet(PDF)
TexasInstrumentsAppBulletinformountingTO3packages(PDF)
AAVIDTHERMALLOY7173DGheatsinkexample
GeneratingelectricityfromalcoholThisSMDReflowHotAirGunHangsAroundYourWorkbench
HackadayLinks:Sunday,June9th,2013PropaneforgebuiltfromasoupcanWatercooledRaspberryPi
Google+
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1. fartfacesays:
March3,2014at11:23am
Ifindoubt,doubletheheatsinkarea.
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pcf11says:
March3,2014at11:25am
Soundslikeawisepolicytome.
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Fsays:
March3,2014at12:48pm
Wastingmoneyonextraheatsinkcapacityisawisepolicy?Makingyourprojectbiggerthanitneedsto
Seguir 260
beisawisepolicy?ithinkdoingthemathandgettingtheheatsinkrightisthewisepolicy.Heatisnot
voodoomagic.
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nelsontbsays:
March3,2014at1:30pm
Itsalsothereasonmostoldthingslastedalmostforever,whilethenewstuffalmostdoesntsurvive
warranty,ifascrewneedstobeatleast1mmthicktoholdapart,thatswhatwillbeused,ifthe
screwrustsabitorwas0.1mmtoothinfromamanufacturedefectitwillbreak,butheyyousaved
thecompany$0.01perscrew,thatwilllookgoodonthereport,thewarrantyreturnscanbeblamed
onthecrappychineseassambler,thatdidyouaskedthemtodo,soatleastyouaresafe,the
companycantakethebadrepifthebeancountersarehappy,nolosshere
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Michaelsays:
March3,2014at3:30pm
Andinthecaseoflaptopcomputers,itsEXACTLYthisreason:Theyonlylastforafew
yearsbecausetheysaveoncoolingcapacitybyusinglessheatsinkmetal,whichisofcourse
bulky,expensiveandheavy.
nelsontbsays:
March3,2014at4:38pm
@Michael:
Computersusedtobeabletoencodemoviesalldaylong,nowitsnormalforyour(very)
expensivegaminglaptoptooverheatwithoutexternalfans,evenwhiledoingmundane
tasks,blameafruitcompanyforstartingaheavyfadofformoverfunctionandthegeneral
publicforgoingalongwithit
Ericsays:
March3,2014at5:19pm
IwastotallywithyouuntilyoubroughtupApple.Whatdotheyhavetodowiththis?My
previouslaptopwasaLenovoIdeapadthatliterallymeltedfromtheheat.Iamnowusinga
MacBookProanditisextremelywelldesigned.Iwouldarguethatthethermalsystemon
Appleproductsisconsistentlybetterthanthealternatives.
Infact,Iwouldsaythesameistrueforaudiohardware,displays,andmostotherhardware
components.
JohnSmithsays:
March3,2014at6:58pm
Theresalotofreasonsstuffdoesntlastaslong.Someofitnostalgiatubesburnout
superfast,youknow.Someofitisthatoldtransistorswerephysicallylarger.Moresilicone,
moreinsulatinglayer,moremetalsOvervoltageandtransientconditionsarenowhereas
damaging.Theyhavemoremasstodissipateinstantaneousheat(fromshortburstsofactivity)
andkeeptheirtemperaturedown.
Andofcourse,someofitisthereductioninweightofsupportingmaterial.Theheatsinks,the
fasteners,theframe,itsallpareddown.THATisbecausewelikebeingabletocarryour
electronicswithourhands,andnotabloodyforklift.Theideathatlaptopcompaniesuse
supertinyfastenerstosavemoneyislaughabletome.Theydoitbecauseitletsthembuild
thebloodythingssmallerandlighter.
nelsontbsays:
March3,2014at8:05pm
@Eric:
Sorrydidretailtechsupportforawhilesomeyearsago,stillhaveasoreimageofthe
companyoverthereasonsfordenialofwarrantyandgeneralassemblyquality.screensgoing
grayororangeandtheyblamethemanufacturerwhiledoingnothingforoverayear,hdds
withonly1yearwarrantyevenwhenthelawhereis2years,agingwhiteplasticmacbooks
thatmelted,deformedordiscoloredforlackofpropercooling,wheretheyreplacedthefan
butlefttheplasticshastheywhereonlycosmeticevenifthepartofthekeyboardis
deformed,suppliedabatchofdefectivei7macbookprosandrequestedthatourcompanydo
afirmwareupdatethatloweredthei7toi5specstoavoidoverheating.itwaspretty
pathetic.Butitstrueitsnotonlythem,sawalotofcompaniesthatirespectedloweringtheir
qualityandhavingshadypractices,somebrands(toshibaandasusifmemoryservesmewell)
wouldtakeareturnedlaptopandforasmallfeewouldrepackageittolooknew.
Youmentionedaudioanddisplays,andihavetoagreewithyouandtekkieneet(bellow),
lookslikenobodymakesadecentpsuanymore,crappychinesecapacitors,sometimeseven
touchingheatsinks,wayunderrateddiodes,lackofdistancebetweenprimaryandsecondary
sidesofmaintransformer,passivecoolingincompletelyclosedspaceswithICsrunning>
90C,itsnutshowthesegetapproved.
tldrNeverbuyalaptop/anythingfromretailfromastorewhereyoudonthaveafriendto
checkthesystemforunusualreturnlevels(badbatches)andruntheserialnumberinthe
supportsystemtomakesureyouareactuallyreceivinganewmachine
Nicholassays:
March3,2014at9:16pm
Ithinkanotherthingthatneedstobetouchedonisthefactthatelectronicsseemtobe
producedasbeingdisposablethesedays.SoImsureitwouldbereasonabletoassumethat
companiesthesedaysdontmanufacturetheirproductstolastbecausetheybelievepeople
willalreadybylininguptobuythenewestgreatestthing.Itseemslikeaviciouscircletome.
Theydecreasetheretailoftheproductsopeoplecanaffordsomethingnew.Butby
decreasingtheretailtheyareessentiallyaredecreasingthequalitybecausethereisnoway
theywouldeverwanttoshrinktheirprofitmargin.
tekkieneetsays:
March3,2014at2:01pm
Notsosureifcrappycomponentsaretheonlyreasonwhythingsfailalotsoonerthesedays.
Alotofthingsfailbecauseoftheyareconsideredtobemundanestuffforatypicaldesignersor
partspurchasersthesedays.e.g.powersupplyrelatedissuesorbadcapsorbadmechanicalpart.
Therestoftheproductthatdonthavecrappyalternativestendnottobethecauseoffailures
(althoughtheycouldbevictims).
Mostdesignersdontevenknowabout(norseemtocareabout)Temperaturerating,ESR,Ripple
currentrating,Lifetimeetcnortheyareawaretonotputthecapacitorsrightnexttoordownstream
ofhotobjectslikeheatsinksinsideapowersupply.etcExperienceisirreplaceableinthatarea,but
companiesopttohavenewgradsastheyarecheaper.
Inthelongrun,makingcrappyproductsdamagestheBrandthat(only)themarketingpeople
caresabout.Thatcostsalotmorethanthe$0.01youaretryingtosaveoncrappycapacitors.They
shouldatleasttrytomaketheylastbeyondtheattentionspanoftheconsumers.
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pcf11says:
March3,2014at8:38pm
Wastemoney?Whobuysheatsinks?IgotawholeboxofthemIvesalvaged.Ivegotacresof
spacetoosovolumeisntreallyanissueformeeither.Quitprojectingyourinadequaciesonto
othersandlifemightimprove.
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nelsontbsays:
March4,2014at8:11am
evenjustbuilding10unitsthatneedreliabilitywebuyheatsinksinsteadofusingthejunk
partsbin,unlesswecanfind10samemodelunitsthatcandothejob,itssimplynotpractical
tomakeapcbthatcanfitallthedifferentheatsinksandthentestallofthemseperatly
pcf11says:
March4,2014at11:56am
@nelsontbIdonotusuallymakemultiplesofprojectsbutwhenIdoImakecustom
heatsinksoutoflargerones.Allittookwassawingone
http://www.instructables.com/files/orig/FBK/OPKS/GT19NE3T/FBKOPKSGT19NE3T.jpg
WhatcanIsay?Ihaveareallynicebandsaw.
2. tekkieneetsays:
March3,2014at12:10pm
TheunitsinOPareinconsistent.Someuses38Candsomeuses38.38isforanglemeasurementorisit
referringtoCorevenF?
MypersonalpreferencetouseC/W(andnot)inmycalculation(fordimensionalanalysis).
yourexample:(4*2W)Notevensurewhatthatmeansatall???
ontheotherhand:(4C/W*2W)gives8C
TheWunitscancelsoutinthecalculation,thetemperatureshowsupasCwhichmakesalotmoresense.
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rjsays:
March3,2014at12:25pm
Dimensionalanalysisreallyisthebestthing.
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technolomaniacsays:
March3,2014at1:39pm
Excellentpoint,theunitsarealwaysalwaysalwaysmoreexplicitthisway.ToooftenIvehosedsomethingup
employingshorthand/abstractions.Thevoiceofmy3rdgrademathteachercomestomindDontskipsteps
andalwaysshowyourwork.:)
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tekkieneetsays:
March3,2014at2:29pm
BTW(4*2W)isnumericallycorrect,butitmakeamessofunits.
>degreesperwatt,isoftenlistedasasymbol:
SothatexpressionhaveaunitofC(anextra)whichmakeabsolutenosensefortheequation.Eitheryou
leaveoutalltheunitsinsidethebracket(whichIdontrecommendespeciallywhenyouareexplainingthingsto
people)oryouleaveeverythinginand*not*addunitstothewholething.
ThereareonlysomanyGreekalphabetsandsomeofthemareoverloadedwithdifferentmeanings.Lookinghip
canmakeamessofthings.
Isortoflearnsomeofthatingradeschooldoingfactions.IwentintoitagainwhentheprofessorinaPhysic
classwasverymuchintoit.Kindofdisappointedtoseethemdroppingtheunitsassoonastheypluginan
equationinmyengineeringclasses.
Justbeingabletopickoutnonsensefromaequation*without*evenknowingenoughaboutitisveryusefulin
reallife.Ifoundafewofthoseindatasheet!
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3. ShawnSwiftsays:
March3,2014at2:37pm
Cananyoneverifythatthecalculationsinthisvideoarecorrect?Iquestionit,becauseifaccurateitwouldmeanthat
evenifyouhadaperfectheatsinkonthechip,thechiptemperaturewouldstillrisetoambient+Jc.
Also,whatiftheambienttemperatureisbelowJc?Thetemperaturewouldntactuallydecreaseuntiltheambient
temperaturewasnegative.Butwhatsspecialaboutanegativetemperatureversusatemperaturethatssimplybelow
thatofthechip?
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tekkieneetsays:
March3,2014at3:25pm
Ididntbothertowatchthevideo.
Fromyourcontext,YouaretalkingaboutadeltaT(JC)forfirstparagraph.
Aperfect(orinfinitesized)heatsinkwouldhaveaThetaHeatsinktoAir=0C/W.Sobasicallytemperatureat
heatsinkisthesameasthatoftheairsurroundit.
Thejunctiontemperaturebydefinitionbetheambienttemperature+Junctiontoambientdifference.The
temperaturedifferenceiscausedbythermalresistanceandtheamountofpowerbetweentransferbetweenthe
two.Therearestillthethermalresistancebetweenthedie(junction),thecase,heatsinkcompoundthatisnot
accountedfor.
Forthesecondparagraph,youllneedtoclarifywhatyouaretalkingabout.JCbyitselfonlysayJunctionto
Caseandnothingaboutwhetheritisresistanceortemperaturedifference.Icanonlyguesshere.
Ifyourchipiscolderthantheambient(e.g.thecoldsideofapeltiercooler).thentherewillbeheatflowintothe
chip.Thepowerwouldthereforehaveanegativesignandtheequationshouldworkout.
NottoosureaboutThetaheatsinktoambientwhetheritwouldbethesameasaircurrent(convection)isgoinga
differentdirection.
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Michaelsays:
March3,2014at3:37pm
Indeed,evenwithaperfectheatsink,thejunctionwouldstillbehotterthanambient,duetothejunctiontocase
thermalresistance.
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ShawnSwiftsays:
March3,2014at6:33pm
Youreright.IguessIdidntreallyhaveaclearpictureinmyheadbeforeaboutwhatR0jcreallymeant.
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4. BubbaGumpsays:
March3,2014at3:21pm
Or
Youcould
ReadtheFlirthermalimagingcamerahacksonthiswebsite,buyacameraforagrand,andjustpointandshoot.
Weboughtoneforourlabatworkanditmorethanpaidforitselfalready.Thereistheoryandpaperworkandthen
thereisactualworld.Ivebeendoingthisforalmost30yearsandIhatetotellyouthisbutsometimes(GASP!)
Datasheetslie,orifthecomponentscomefromChina,theyjustcutandpasteandthedatadoesNOTlineup.
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MikeSzczyssays:
March3,2014at6:01pm
Iwouldrecommenddoingbothmathandrealtemperaturemeasurement.Ifthetwoarenotevencloseyouknow
somethingiswrongwiththesystem.
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5. phase2682says:
March3,2014at3:32pm
NicelydoneBil,explanationwasaccurate.Gladyouthrewinthereliabilitydiscussionthoughinmyexperiencemost
temperatureacceleratedmechanismsare0.7eVactivationenergyratherthan0.99eV.0.99eVwillgiveyouworstcase
degradationinreliabilityforoperationatelevatedtemperaturesversusalowertemperaturewhile0.7eVprovidesmost
conservativeimprovementofreliabilityforoperationatlowertemperaturesversusahighertemperature.
Alsolikethe2112tshirt!
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BilHerdsays:
March4,2014at9:40am
Thanksphase.Basicallywhatyousaidabout,7wasgoingthroughmyheadwhenImentionednotgoinginto
Boltzmans.InthiscaseIscarfedtheexampledirectlyfrompage3of
http://www.ti.com/lit/an/snva509a/snva509a.pdfasacleanexamplewhichisprobablywhytheychose.9also.
ThiswayIamquotingTIratherthanprovingIneednewreadingglasseswhenextractingfromthegraph.>:)
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6. tekkieneetsays:
March3,2014at3:41pm
Oryouapplytheheatsinkcompoundthewrongway(*)andthenumberswouldbeverydifferent.
Stillhavingthebasicknowledgeandtellingpeopletoreadmoresectionofthedatasheetinsteadofblindlyusingparts
orgettingtechnicalinfofrom3rdpartylikeyoutubevideoorablogisbad.
Oneoftheplaces,IhaveaccesstoaFLIRcameraandIgetverysimilarresultsonmyboardasmypapercalculations.
(Therewerepeoplewhothoughtmycalculationswaspessimistic.)
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pcf11says:
March3,2014at8:40pm
Ihaveaccesstomyfingertip.Icanusuallytellwithitifsomethingisreallyhot,ornot.
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tekkieneetsays:
March3,2014at9:02pm
CanIborrowyourfingersnexttimewhenIamtryingtofindoutthetemperatureofatransistorsrunning
ontheprimarysidewith170VDC*while*thepowersupplyisonorwhenonethatisunderfault
conditions?
ThereisalsothedocumentationsideofthingsthatIcanputthepictureofwhetheryourfingerisburntina
designandverificationreport.BTWIputanoutlineofboardcomponentsoverlayontopintheFLIR
picture.Ittookaboutsameamountoftimeforafullsetofdataundervariousloadvsjustonedatumdoing
theoldwayofmeasuringindividualcriticalcomponentswithtapingthermalcouplesovervariousplace
withoutshortingthemout.
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pcf11says:
March4,2014at12:00pm
Shutitoffthentouchitifyourethatbigofapussy.
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tekkieneetsays:
March4,2014at12:42pm
Thatdoesntsoundlikeaprofessionalapproachwayofwritingaverificationreport.Measurements
withuncalibratedmethodsandnonreproducibleresultsareuselessandwasteoftime.
Thereisnothinggainforchestpoundingandyouarebeingaliabilityforpeopleyouworkfor.You
recommendationisofnouse.
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tekkieneetsays:
March3,2014at9:05pm
BTWIgotanevenbettertrickfortheHaDcrowd.
Stickapieceofthermalprinterpaperontoeachofthepartsonaboardtotellifthechipsaregettinghot.
Thatdoesnttellyouhowhottheactualtemperaturesare.
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BilHerdsays:
March4,2014at5:37am
Trueonthefingertipprobebutonethingthemathshowsusitspossibletoburnyourfingeron
somethingthatisworkingcorrectly.(beenthere,donethat.Hadanimprintononefingertipforacouple
ofyears)
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tekkieneetsays:
March4,2014at10:23am
Therearesomecaseswhereyouintentionallyrunacomponenthot.
e.g.SchottkydiodesinDCapplicationlikeORingorreversepolarityprotection.Theforwardvoltage
candropafewtensofmillivoltsifyoukeepthejunctiontemperaturehot.Ifthepowerfeeddrops,the
diodejunctionwouldcooloffsotheleakagecurrentwoulddropaswell.
60Ccasetemperatureisnthotforsomeembeddedapplicationsthatusepartswithautomotive/mil
specs.Iwouldexpectthatyourfingerprobeswouldstarttopfeelpainabovethatasyoucangeta3rd
degreeburnat60Cwith5secondcontact.Idontknowhowwelltheburncharttranslatetofinger
probes.
http://www.antiscald.com/prevention/general_info/table.php
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pcf11says:
March4,2014at12:01pm
Idontdojackassshitlikethat.
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7. Agent24says:
March4,2014at12:09am
Whatifyouhaveaheatsinkthatdoesnthaveadatasheet?Canyoucalculatesomeusablespecificationfromits
dimensionsandmaterial?
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BilHerdsays:
March4,2014at5:35am
Yesyoucan,IcouldntfindtheTIAppnotethatIusedtousethatwasfairlystraightforwardapproximationby
takingthesizeandfinishofthemetal.
Withthatsaid,thereasonIshowedastandardTO220heatsinkwastohelpgetanintuitiveideaofwhatthe
effectivenessofacommonheatsinkisandwhenyoumightneedone.Nexttimeyouseethatsomethingmayrun
hotitmaybeusefultorememberthatyoucanprobablydealwith2cWattsandthatyouneedalittleextraroom
foryourheatsink.
AlsoifyougotoThermalloyswebsite(orotherheatsinkmfgs)youmaybeabletopickaheatsinkthat
matchesyourmysteryheatsinkandgetanidea.Andthenmultiplytime.75incaseyouroffabit.
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Daxsays:
March4,2014at8:13am
Theoreticallyyes,butalltheeasywaystocalculateitarequiteinaccurate.Thebestwayistoboltapower
resistoronitandmeasurethetemperaturerise.
Inprinciple,youtakethemeanpathlenghtthroughthebulkmaterialoftheheatsinktoallpointsalongthe
surfacetocalculatethethermalresistanceoftheheatsink,orsomeapproximationofit.Thenyouaddtoitthe
metalairinterfacethermalresistanceaccordingtothetotalsurfaceareaexposedtomovingairasfollows:
http://www.engineeringtoolbox.com/convectiveheattransferd_430.html
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BilHerdsays:
March4,2014at9:50am
Ishouldhavealsoincludedthatbyallmeansyoucangetatemperatureprobeoutandmeasureitasa
system/environmenttotakeintoaccountothervariablessuchasairflow,etc.Ifyouknowthepowerbeing
dissipatedyoucanthenjustsolvefromcasetojunction.
Ioncehadaboss/presidentwhodecidedthatwewouldputafaninsideanairtightHoffmanenclosure.Wetried
toexplaintohimthatallhewasdoingwasstirringthesameairandheatingitfurtherintheprocess.Inthat
exampleIwouldhavehadtotakeameasurementastangible.
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Daxsays:
March4,2014at5:35pm
Althoughafaninsideaclosedboxcanmeanthedifferencebetweenoverheatingandworking,because
stationaryairisaninsulatorandmovingaircarriesheatbetweenthecomponentsandtheinnersurfaceof
thebox.
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tekkieneetsays:
March4,2014at10:31am
IfitisaDIYoneoffproject,measureit.IboughtathermometerwithtypeKthermalcoupleprobefor$3
somethingrecently.Thecheapprobeisdecentandcaneasilydo175Corsoforquickmeasurement.Itestedit
againstmeltingice/boilingwateranditseemsaccurateenoughforDIYproject.
Foranythingelse,itisworthwhiletospendthe$$$andbuysomethingwithadatasheet.
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8. lmnsays:
March4,2014at4:15pm
insteadofmaximumpoweryouplantousewiththiscomponentshouldbemaximumpower_dissipated_withthis
component.ItsaHUGEdifference.
E.g.SharpS116S02optorelay.ThedatasheetsaysThermalresistancebetweenjunctionandambient40C/W.Load
itwith100W(e.g.halogenlamp).Roomtemp.20C.Calculationswouldbe:40C/W*100W+20C=4020C(!)
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9. bitknittingsays:
March8,2014at6:54am
um..(pleasepardonapotentiallydumbquestionandtellmewhy?why?why?).WhenIlookatthisdatasheet:
http://www.nxp.com/documents/data_sheet/74HC_HCT125.pdf
itdoesnothavethethermalresistancevaluestated.Itgivesmaxambienttemp(125C)aswellastotalpower
dissipation(500mAforthechipImlookingat).Sodoesthatmeanaslongasthecurrentis<500mA,noheatsinkis
needed?(andthusIdon'thaveanythingtocalculate)oristhereadditionalinfoI'mnotconsidering?
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Agent24says:
March9,2014at3:10pm
IthinktheydonthaveitintherebecausethereisnosituationwherethatIC(orAFAIKanyofthe7400or4000
series)wouldneedaheatsink.Ifyouaredoingsomethingtoitthatmakesitgetthathot,youreusingitwrong.
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