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Yoel Tobfn

From: Yoel Tobin

Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2004 3:34 PM
To: Nicole Grandrimo; Tom Dowling
Cc: Melissa Coffey; Doug MacEachin - /?/?
Subject: |" \8\ interviews Thursday

NikiandTpm:

I have placed an/outline of questions for| In Tom's safe, and on Niki's chair. Please let me know if you have
any revisions/deletions/additions. As for logistics, we are supposed to meet POC| ~~"|no later than 9:30
AM on Thursjja^by the Pentagon military e_sI3ianj^rjLoilsJcteJh5-exitiQdb£^
picture ifls. Both this intervlewand tn linterview will be conducted in a SCIF. I do not anticipate taping
either interview. I am also assuming that susan Ginsberg is not coming, unless she tells us otherwise.

I would be happy to divide thd butline in thirds for purposes of who is going to lead the interview, or do it
anyway you feel comfortable. .Also, lef s figure out the logistics of meeting and getting to the Pentagon -- we will
also need a lockbag for the/interview.

Re:| |l assume that/torn will take the lead? I have not done an outline forj [Also. fo1 |we will need
to read sojTie_Qpmmissrbri boilerplate at the outset of the interview which I will take with me. {We don't need to
read it td because has already been interviewed.V

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CONDUCTING INTERVIEWS

•kjilyenflke'fe^ofefeg
Identify yourself and the Commission ("I'm Pat Doe, a staff member with the
National Commission on Terrorist Attacks Upon the United States.").

ItJ^ond^/July-S^^^feom^^e^mf^ndA^g

So that everyone is clearRon

\
notrCe state that the interview
^***^^^ ^f ^
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is being recorded
("Pursuant to our standard haficy, and our agreement withjhe^dministration, this
interview is being renrj*f£ '^ <~

Ask everyone in the room, including other Commission staff, to identify themselves
and their affiliations for the record., 4- -tea^, <^'&^\<^tc^./&t^e ,4?^&^/fr *** ;<*>
- At
If classified material might be discti^sed, telj^e witness that all Commission staff
members present have Top Secret/SClyCjjearances (assuming they do). Ask the
witness to inform you during the intemfew if he or she discusses classified
information, and if so, what the proper classification level is.

Give the witness general background information about the Commission

• The Commission was established by statute; signed into law by the President.

• There are 10 Commissioners;\ll come from/nitside the government, but all have
prior government experience

• The Chair was appointed by the Pkeside/t; the remaining Commissioners were
appointed by Congressional leade

• The basic statutory mandate of the/CoVimission is three-fold:

1) to investigate and make/full and complete accounting of the facts and

circumstances surrounding the 9/H terrorist attacks;

2) to investigate the country's preparedness for, and immediate response

to, those attacks; and

3) to identify and evaluate the lessons leaVned from those attacks.

• The mandate of the (Commission is to determine the facts and make policy
recommendations, iiot to establish individual culpability.

• The Commissioii will report its findings to the Presioient, Congress, and the
American peop/e, as well as make recommendations fo\preventing future attacks.

9-11 COMMISSION INTERVIEW HANDBOOK

 If the witness has any questions^ offer the witness a cooyolf the statute (Tab D).
Give the witness general instructions about the ponduct of the interview.
• "If you don't understand a question, or if/it isn't clear, please tell me so that I can
restate it or try to make it cleare
• "If you need a break at any time\just let me know so that we can finish up a set of
questions and take a break."
/ N
'As to historical facts, we arejust looking for your best recollection. Please be as
precise as possible with details such as names, dates and locations, but also give
us your best estimate if you don't remember exact details."
Start the substantive portion of the interview by asking the witness to give his or her
full name, with a spelling of the last name, official title, and work location or
address.

Before turning off the recorded make clear thatyou are ending the interview or that
portion of the interview. ("Tharconcludes [this portion of] the interview.")
Whenever you turn the recorder backon after any stop or break in the recording,
re-state your name, the date, and theyevent. ("This is Pat Doe on Monday, July 21,
2003, and this is a continuationx>f the: interview of Chris Roe.")
/ \f anyone not identified ajxthe beginning\>f the interview join
ask them to identify themselves for the record.
<c/
If an agency representative is present at the interview and you believe that his or her
actions are interfering with the conduct of the interview, you should request that the
agency representative discontinue his or her actions. If such behavior persists, you
should conclude the interview and indicate that the interview will be continued at a
later date. Report such occurrences immediately to the Front Office. If an agency
representative raises questions re possible claims of executive privilege which cannot
be resolved, your should consult with Dan or Steve by phone.
You may, at the end, ask the witness if there is anything else that s/he would like to
add at that time.
Finally, tell the witness that s/he can contact you later if they have more information
to offer or want to change or add to any answers they have given.

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I Yoel Tobin
From: Yoel Tobin
Sent: Friday, January 16, 2004 9:45 AM
To: John Tamm
Subject: RE| [topics

Yes, we will ask the questions that you sent to me.earlier. This is just a list of topics submitted to DIA in advance
so that he can get a general idea of what the interview wiW cover

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From: John Tamm ..
Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2004 3:20 PM
To: Yoe! Tobin .,
Subject: RE:| Copies

Yoel: Yes, assuming that he discusses the Cole attack or planned attacks on U.S. Naval vessels.
John T.
Original Message ,
From: Yoel Tobin
Sent: Thu 1/15/2004 12:42 PM
To: Melissa Coffey,.
Cc: Team I; John Tamm
Subject:) ^topics

• The history and growth of Al Qaeda;

• Al Qaeda's ties to other terrorist cells and organizations;

• Al Qaeda's ties to governments or elements thereof;

• Any attempts by Al Qaeda to acquire weapons of mass destruction;

• Al Qaeda's training camps and operational tradecraft;

• Terrorist attacks and terrorist plots that Al Qaeda or related groups have executed or
attempted to execute from Al Qaeda's founding through September 11, 2001.

(John: I think your questions are sufficiently subsumed under the last bullet, do you agree?)

Melissa: This does not include anything from Team 5, should they wish to participate.
Also, please check if the room set aside for the interview is a SCIF. Thanks!

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Yoel Tobin

From: Melissa Coffey

Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2004 2:07 PM
To: Graham Giusti 9/11 Closed by Statute
Cc: Yoel Tobin
Subject: clearances for DOD interviews

HI Graham -

Yoel Tobin, Tom Dowling, Niki firandrimo. and Susan Ginsburg are going to the Pentagon for
jDd.Susan tor DIA interviews on
January 22. The first interview (of L Jis from 10am - 2pm. The second interview (ofj ^will begin
immediately after from 2-4pm. The DIA POC Haaga in the office of congressionafarrairs. nis phone #
)C is Steve Haaga,
ij I Will you please make sure their clearances are passed?
Thank you.

Melissa Coffey
Staff Assistant
National Commission on Terrorist Attacks Upon the U.S.
^202-331 -4080 tel
I 202-296-5545 fax

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Yoel Tofairi
i I \: Melissa Coffey":; ...
s
\\\ Thursday, January. 15;: 3304 1:56 PM
! I \: \\'Haaga, Stephen C, Mr, J JOSD-USDI1
I \y Finalize details and Topics f< Shelton, and Carney

| HrSteve and] .

•voyr request, I am sending topics for the interviews that the Commission has requested withl I
i \a Shelton,| | and Christopher Carney. Please see below:

10am-2pm):

•\6 history and growth of Al Qaeda;

• A.1 Q¥eda's ties to other terrorist cells and organizations;

• Al Qaeeta's ties to governments or elements thereof;

• Any attempts by Al Qaeda to acquire weapons of mass destruction;

• Al Qieda's training camps and operational tradecraft;

• Terrorist attacks and terrorist plots that Al Qaeda or related groups have executed or attempted to
execute from Al Qaeda's founding through September 11, 2001.

Tina Shelton arid Christopher Carney:

Links between Al Qaeda and Iraq

JO/22 2-4pm): \e repdrting and dissemination by the Department of Defense

The attendees for thq bndl linterviews are Yoej/Tobin, Tom Dowling, and Niki Grandrirno.
Susan Gjnsburg mayattend thel Jnterviewj'Yoell^anted me toTaskyoujYtheroora. lC760Tis^
(SCIFT/Fhe attend^es~will meet Steve^nRelTietro enBaTICetothe rentagon~aT9:30 am on Thursday
Iary22.

As far as scheduling Tina Shelton and Christopher Carney, we would like to schedule them on the same

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day, back to back, for two hours each. Possible dates are January 21, 29, or 30.

Thank you for your attention and assistance in this matter. Please do not hesitate to contact me with any
questions or concerns.

Regards,

Melissa Coffey
Staff Assistant
National Commission on Terrorist Attacks Upon the U.S.
202-331-4080 tel
202-296-5545 fax

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From: Yoel Tobin

Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2004 12:42 PM
To: Melissa Coffey
Cc: Team 1; John Tamm 9/11 Closed by Statute
Subject:! {topics

• The history and growth of Al Qaeda;

• A! Qaeda's ties to other terrorist cells and organizations;

• Al Qaeda's ties to governments or elements thereof;

• Any attempts by Al Qaeda to acquire weapons of mass destruction;

• Al Qaeda's training camps and operational tradecraft;

• Terrorist attacks and terrorist plots that Al Qaeda or related groups have executed or attempted to execute
from Al Qaeda's founding through September 1 1 , 2001 .

(John: I think your questions are sufficiently subsumed under the last bullet, do you agree?)

Melissa: This does not include anything from Team 5, should they wish to participate.
Also, please check if the room set aside for the interview is a SCIF. Thanks!

c^l

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Yoel Tobin

From: Melissa Coffey

Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2004 1:16 PM
To: Yoel Tobin; Team 5
Cc: Team 1
Subject: RE:| Interview

I've spoken with Susan, and due to the interview's.clpse proximity to her Team's hearing, there is only a 50%
chance she will attend, or send questions. I will clear her irv to go, and if Team 5 can't make it, he gets to go early.
Other questions or concerns? '"/?/H Closed by Statute
Melissa Coffey / j
Staff Assistant
National Commission on Terrorist Attacks Upon the U.S. i
202-331-4080 tel \5 fax , j

—Original Message j
From: Yoel Tobin j
Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2004 4:03 PM
To: Team 5 i
Cc: Team 1 :
Subject: FWJ [interview j

Susan, i

This interview is going to be rescheduled becaus j |has a conflict this Friday. Melissa is trying to set
a new date with DOD (possibly Jan. 22, 10-2). We will Keep you informed. See below for how we would
like to conduct the interview in conjunction with your team's interests.

—Original Message—
From: Yoel Tobin
Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2004 11:31 AM
To: Susan Ginsburg; Melissa Coffey; Lorry Fenner
Cc: Kevin Scheid; Joanne Accolla; Tom Eldridge; Doug MacEachin; Team 1
Subject: RE: Duecy Interview

Susan:

After batting it around here, we would like to keep the number of people in the room down, but at the
same time, we probably don't need all 4 hours. So the best way to do this is probably for Team 1 to do
our part of the interview from 10 to 1, and for your team to arrive at 1 and take over from there. (If you're
only sending one person, one of us would stay with you from 1-2.) If this works for you, we will try to
arrange the logistics with DOD. (Perhaps they will consider changing the venue to K St., although the
conference room here is booked from 9 to 11, so we would have to change the time as well).
Alternatively, if you want to submit questions, that's fine too.

—Original Message
From; Susan Ginsburg
Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2004 12:33 PM
To: Yoel Tobin; Melissa Coffey; Lorry Fenner

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Cc: Kevin Scheid; Joanne Accolla; Tom Eldridge; Doug MacEachin; Team 1
Subject: RE: Duecy Interview

Yoel,

I would like to send someone if possible, but if not, we will submit questions.
Let us know.

Thanks.

Susan

Original Message
From: YoeiTobin
Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2004 11:40 AM
To: Melissa Coffey; Susan Ginsburg; Lorry Fenner
Cc: Kevin Scheid; Joanne Accolla; Tom Eldridge; Doug MacEachin; Team 1
Subject: RE: Duecy Interview

Thanks, Melissa. Susan, do you want to attend or just submJLflljestions? FYI, at present
we are planning to have 3 people from Team 1 attend thel interview.

Original Message—
From: Melissa Coffey
Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2004 8:57 AM
To: Susan Ginsburg; Lorry Fenner; Yoel Tobin
Cc: Kevin Scheid; Joanne Accolla; Tom Eldridge; Doug MacEachin
Subject: RE: Duecy Interview

Thd jinterview is scheduled for Jan. 16 from 10am - 2pm at the Pentagon,
Room 1C760. I need, to let our DIA rep know who is coming, so Susan, just let
me know. Thanks. ""-•-...

Melissa Coffey "9/11 Closed by S t a t u t e

Staff Assistant
National Commission on Terrorist Attacks Upon the U.S.
202-331-4080 tel
202-296-5545 fax \l Message

From: Susan Ginsburg

Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2004 7:24 AM
To: Lorry Fenner; Yoel Tobin
Cc: Kevin Scheid; Joanne Accolla; Tom Eldridge; Melissa Coffey; Doug
MacEachin
Subject: RE: Duecy Interview

Thanks very much Lorry. That is helpfuLiaSjjIways). Yoel, would you

let me know when you are interviewing] fr

—Original Message—
From: Lorry Fenner
Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 7:15 PM
To: Melissa Coffey
Cc: Susan Ginsburg; Yoel Tobin; Kevin Scheid
Subject: Duecy Interview

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::; I understand Team 5 would like to attend/ask questions. Of

-::; . course they are welcome. However, they might want to instead
"--.::'--. or also consider attending a second Team 1 interview with
I ..I Duecv was the Director of JITF-CT and at a very senior
level wh'itj ivas the senior CT analyst and might be able to
answer those questions better. We should also remember that
they are not a collection organization but strictly an all-source
analytical unit focused on their Department's requirements (like
INR with State). They might also want to look at the Jl interviews
with DIA people in prep.

Melissa, would you also please let the other team leaders know
who we have over the next couple of weeks so they can let us
know if they want to attend or give us questions.

Thank you
Lorry

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