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By Video:- Dr. Gordon Sasaki(Plastic surgeon)
(The following proceedings were held in open court, in the presence of the jurors)
Judge. I understand the defendants are going to call a witness by way of deposition.
Mr. Putnam. Yes, your honor.
Judge. So do you want to announce who you're calling?
Ms. Cahan. Yes, your honor. Defendants at this time call, by deposition, Dr. Gordon Sasaki, S-a-s-a-k-I.
Judge. Thank you.

(excerpts of the videotaped deposition of Gordon Sasaki were played.)

Sasaki, Gordon
Will you please state your full name for the record.
A. Gordon Hiroshi Sasaki.
Q. All right. Dr. Sasaki, I would like to ask you a few questions about your education and professional
background. I understand you brought a copy of your CV today, and I don't plan to use it as an exhibit because
the questions I have are fairly short and simple. So where did you go to undergraduate school?
A. Pomona College --
Q. What year --
A. -- Claremont --
Q. Sorry. Go ahead.
A. Claremont, City of Claremont.
Q. In California?
A. Uh-huh, yes.
Q. What year did you graduate?
A. 1964.
Q. And what degree did you receive?
A. Bachelor of Arts.
Q. Okay. Where did you go to medical school?
A. Yale University.
Q. What year did you graduate?
A. 1968.
Q. And what degree did you receive?
A. Doctor of Medicine.
Q. After medical school, what did you do next?
A. One usually goes to -- depending on the specialty, you start your internship.
Q. Your internship. What was your internship in?

A. It was a mixed rotating internship at the University of Oregon Health Science Center in Portland, Oregon.
Q. So you rotated amongst various practice areas?
A. In different parts of medicine.
Q. Different parts of medicine?
A. Including surgery.
Q. After your -- you completed your internship, did you do a residency?
A. I started on the general surgical pathway and finished my first year of general surgery, but in those days, we
were committed to The Berry Plan.
Q. What is that?
A. Mandatory enlistment in the U.S. Army.
Q. Okay.
A. So I had to go to Vietnam.
Q. Uh-huh.
A. And when I went to Vietnam, I was trained to be an anesthesiologist.
Q. All right.
A. So in Vietnam, I wore many different hats -- anesthesia, physical thera -- physical -- respiratory therapy,
general surgery, and on my days off, plastic surgery.
Q. After you returned from your service, what did you do next?
A. I took two years out at my choice to do basic rescience in breast cancer.
Q. Was this a fellowship?
A. It's a surgical fellowship in the University of Oregon in oncology and basic rescien -- basic research in
molecular pharmacology.
Q. Okay. And you are currently licensed to practice medicine in California?
A. Yes, I am.
Q. Dr. Sasaki, I know we kind of covered this, but did you ever provide medical treatment to Michael Jackson?
A. Yes, I did.
Q. Did you ever perform any surgical procedures on Michael Jackson?

A. Yes, I did.
Q. Approximately how many surgical procedures did you perform on Michael Jackson?
A. Two to the scalp and three to the upper lip for contouring. Not the lip itself, but the skin above the lip.
Q. Okay. Dr. Sasaki, you were telling us about surgeries that you had performed on Michael Jackson. You
testified that the first procedure you performed was on February 23rd, 1993; correct?
A. I'm sorry. That's incorrect.
Q. Okay.
A. March 16th, 1993, first surgery.
Q. And what was that surgery?
A. That was to reduce the scar alopecia to his scalp, the bald spot.
Q. Okay. What about the second procedure that you performed on Michael Jackson?
A. Second procedure was performed on October 31st, 1997.
Q. And what was that procedure?
A. It's called scar revision to reduce the width of the reduced scar.
Q. And that was the scar on the scalp?
A. Correct.
Q. Any treatment for pain?
A. Yes.
Q. Okay. Was that treatment in connection with those procedures, the pain treatment?
A. For the scalp procedures.
Q. For the scalp.
A. But only a part of it.
Q. Okay. What do you mean when you say "part of it"?
A. The medical care, which includes the postoperative care and the removal of sutures and the pain medications,
were taken out of my hands willingly and placed into two other doctors that Mr. Jackson thought would be the
best.
Q. Do you recall the names of those two doctors?
A. Dr. Steven Hoefflin and Dr. Arnold Klein and, at some point, Dr. Metzner -- Metzer -- Allan Metzner.

Q. Metzger?
A. Metzger.
Q. And we'll -- we'll get into those areas a little bit later, but those three physicians -- Dr. Steven Hoefflin, Dr.
Arnold Klein, and Dr. Allan Metzger are the physicians that you said took the patient's pain care out of your
hands -- take Michael Jackson's pain care out of your hands?
A. For the most part, yes.
Q. All right. Dr. Sasaki, how did you meet Michael Jackson?
A. I received a phone call from Dr. Steven Hoefflin, a plastic surgeon, to assist him in providing different
alternatives to take care of his bald spot on the scalp, and I received a phone call from Dr. Hoefflin. I don't recall
when, but a consultation with Mr. Jackson and with Dr. Hoefflin was set up.
Q. Okay. Let me step back. When you say doc -- tell me who is Dr. Steven Hoefflin.
A. Dr. Steven Hoefflin is a well-respected plastic surgeon in Los Angeles.
Q. Okay. So on February 16th, 1993, you met with Michael Jackson and Dr. Steven Hoefflin at Dr. Hoefflin's
office; is that correct?
A. That's correct.
Q. About how long was that meeting, if you recall?
A.
A. half an hour.
Q. So what technique did you ultimately use for Michael Jackson's scalp surgery in March 1993?
A. We used a combination of prestretching. We first put onto the area of the defect, without touching the defect,
a device that's called a STAR device, S-T-
A.-R -- S-T-
A.-R -- and I don't know what that really stands for now because it's 20 years ago, but these are two bridges that
one places on either side of a defect, and by suturing sutures that go across, you crank it with a wheel, and you
bring the two edges together. So you have one metal device here and one metal device here with sutures across
it, and the metal devices are attached temporarily to the scalp tissue, and you crank it, twist it, and the tissues
come in, and generally on rapid expansion to the skin, one can recruit about 30 percent more skin just by
stretching. So that was done first, and at the same procedure, once that is done, then we release the star device.
Nothing has been done so far. Then incision is made along the edge, one edge of the scar, and from that, the
pockets are made to place in the balloons, and there are two balloons placed in, and we went through three
periods of rapid expansion, deflation, rapid expansion, deflation, rapid expansion, deflation, and generally skin
takes about three times of stretching acutely to get that 30 percent extra tissue, and you can tell that you have
enough tissue because it's so loose that you just pull it together and you know it covers the size defect. At that
point we then commit to the full excision of the scar, and once that's done, one just closes.

Q. And all these steps that you have just outlined occurred during the surgery on Michael Jackson on February
16th, 1993?
A. That's correct. Dr. Hoefflin was my --
Q. I'm sorry. Let me correct that. Sorry. On March 16th, 1993.
A. Dr. Hoefflin was my first assistant.
Q. Okay. Do you know why Michael Jackson had this -- these scalp procedures?
A. Just in a general sense. Because when I had the phone conversation with Dr. Hoefflin, he had mentioned that,
on a Pepsi commercial -- I think it was in 1988 -- and I don't follow this kind of --
Q. Uh-huh.
A. -- situations -- that he had a burn and the burn healed secondarily, which means that there was a scar present,
and Mr. Jackson wished to reduce the scar.
Q. So were most of your communications with Dr. Hoefflin regarding Michael Jackson's procedure?
A. Could you restate that?
Q. Yeah. As far as what you -- let me step back. You said you knew that Michael Jackson had -- his scalp had
been burned. You learned that from Dr. Steven Hoefflin; is that right?
A. That's correct.
Q. All right. And he told you this happened during a Pepsi commercial?
A. That's correct.
Q. What else did he tell you about how the burn occurred?
A. Nothing else.
Q. Okay. And the scar was on the top of his head.
A. Scar was in the middle part of the scalp.
Q. Did you ever have communications with Michael Jackson outside of your treatment of him?
A. Yes.
Q. How so?
A. Oh, I have to look at the chart on this. He was kind enough to invite myself and my family to -- Never
Neverland? Is that it? Neverland.
Q. Neverland?
A. Neverland.

Q. The ranch?
A. Uh-huh. And we went up there, and he was not there, but he was not supposed to be there, and the staff
served us lunch and showed us around.
Q. So you went with your family to Neverland Ranch?
A. Uh-huh.
Q. Do you recall when that occurred?
A. Yes.
BY MR. ROSENBERG:
Q. Was it approximately --
A. I think it was Monday -- I don't -- let's see what the date is here.
Q. Was it around 1993?
A. It must have been.
Q. Okay. Well, let me ask you this. How --
A. Uh-huh.
Q. Because it's okay. We can come back to it later. Approximately how many times did you visit Neverland
Ranch?
A. Twice.
Q. Twice.
A. The first time with my family. The second time at his request.
Q. Okay. And was Michael Jackson present for either of those visits?
A. Just the second one.
Q. You say you were there at Michael Jackson's request. Was this for the second visit -- or the visit when he was
there at Neverland --
A. It was the second visit.
Q. -- was the visit that he requested you?
A. Correct.
Q. Okay. Why -- do you know why he requested you?

A. I don't.
Q. Okay.
A. I think it was to discuss -- to -- I assume -- I don't know. I can't remember because that's --
Q.
A. long time ago.
A. -- 15 years ago, maybe, or 20, someplace between 15 and 20 years ago, and I think he just wanted to have me
look at his wound --
Q. Uh-huh.
A. -- which was healing quite nicely, and I really can't remember -- I know what we did talk about more them
himself. We talked about the Bible.
Q. You talked about the Bible?
A. Uh-huh.
Q. Okay. So the visit was not strictly -- you weren't strictly there for medical purposes?
A. No, for medical purposes.
Q. Oh, you were there for medical purposes. Okay.
Q. Do you remember how far apart those visits, two visits, to Neverland were?
A. I don't know. I think it may have been, like, five years apart.
Q. All right.
A. Yeah. If I have time, I'll look it up, but I think it's -- it wasn't very close.
Q. Okay. All right. What I would like to do now is go over some of the records that we had prior to today --
were given prior to today, and I would like to enter into the record as Exhibit 3.
Q. Dr. Sasaki, do you recognize the documents in Exhibit 3?
A. Yes.
Q. What are they?
A. My records.
Q. And just generally, when you say "my records" --
A. Uh-huh.
Q. -- okay -- you mean the medical records you kept for Michael Jackson?

A. And my chart.
MR. ROSENBERG: I would like to enter into he record a -- one, two -- five-page document that Dr. Sasaki
brought with him today. The Estate has reviewed this document, which will be entered as Exhibit
THE REPORTER: 4.
MR. ROSENBERG: -- 4. And the Estate has reviewed it and marked Exhibit 4, document Exhibit 4, highly
confidential with a few redactions and -- yeah.

(Exhibit 4 was marked for identification by the reporter and is attached hereto.)
BY MR. ROSENBERG:
Q. Dr. Sasaki, what I would like to do is we'll go through, use your summary, and to the extent there are some
gaps, we will refer back to Exhibit 3 and some of the records contained in there. Dr. Sasaki, did you prepare
Exhibit 4 yourself?
A. Which is Exhibit 4? This one?
Q. Yes.
A. Yes, I did.
Q. Okay. How did you create this document?
A. From the chart.
Q. Okay. Your chart of medical records on Michael Jackson?
A. Correct.
Q. When did you prepare this?
A. About a week ago.
Q. Okay. I guess it says there February 7th, 2013. All right. Does the Exhibit 4 contain a summary of all of your
treatments of Michael Jackson?
A. It does, but when there's an operation note and so on, then that's why I have these little tabs here because
that's the operation report that it's just too large. So to the best of your knowledge, Dr. Sasaki, are -- the entries
in Exhibit 4 accurately reflect your treatment of Michael Jackson?
A. Yes.
Q. And the notes contained in Exhibit 4 are based on records that you created at or near the time you saw
Michael Jackson?
A. Correct. Let's look at the next entry, February 18th, 1993. If you could read that.

A. "February 18, 1993." I spoke with Dr. Klein for the first time regarding this case and Dr. Hoefflin about Mr.
Jackson's surgery, his postoperative wound care, and pain management. "Dr. Klein and Dr. Hoefflin indicated
that Dr. John Bornstein will be Mr. Jackson's anesthesiologist for the procedure and would manage his
intraoperative antibiotics. I would" give Mr. Jackson "a long-acting Marcaine local anesthetic block around the
operative site to minimize" the "immediate post-operative pain. Dr. Hoefflin stressed that the patient had a low
pain threshold after previous surgeries by Dr. Hoefflin and strongly suggested that he (Dr. Hoefflin) would
manage his pain medications as he knew the patient better and knew the requirements of the patient."
Q. What did -- what did Dr. Hoefflin tell you specifically about Michael Jackson's low pain threshold?
A. I don't recall.
Q. What did Dr. Hoefflin tell you when he said he would manage Michael Jackson's pain medications?
A. What did he say?
Q. Yeah, in terms of --
A. That's what he said.
Q. Did he specify which type of medications?
A. No.
Q. Okay. And did he tell you about the frequency with which Michael Jackson had taken pain medication?
A. Very obliquely.
Q. What does this -- what do you mean by that?
A.
A. reference to that. Whatever surgeries he's had, his pain tolerance was low. So he had to provide him with
comfort. Okay. Dr. Sasaki, you said earlier that Michael Jackson's pain management was taken out of your
hands willingly. What did you mean by that?
A. Well, when I -- when I don't have a patient that I can see on a timely basis, which is very difficult when you
are dealing with celebrities, I can't provide them with the kind of care that I would like to provide, and so in this
case, they being his primary doctors, surgeons, felt that they could do it better.
Q. Okay. So did you end up providing any postoperative pain care to Michael Jackson after his March 16th,
1993 procedure?
A. For that particular procedure, none.
Q. Okay. Was this unusual in your --
A. It is unusual.
Q. It is?

A. It is unusual, but I have patients coming back to me on a daily or maybe three-times-a-week basis for six
weeks to three months.
Q. Do you know why at the time they took the pain management out of your hands?
A. I don't know. I could speculate, but I don't know.
Q. Did you express any concerns to them when they said that?
A. No. And my feelings are that, if I don't have the ability to see the patient and adjust the patient on a timely
basis, I would rather not do that, especially with pain medications.
Q. Did Michael Jackson say anything to you about his postoperative treatment?
A. No. He's very private. Didn't say much.
Q. So all this information came from Dr. Hoefflin or Dr. Klein?
A. That's correct.
Q. Okay. In the last sentence of the February 18th, 1993, entry, it says that Dr. Hoefflin strongly suggested that
he manage Michael Jackson's pain medications. Why did you use the language "strongly suggested"?
A. Speculation. I think when you are dealing -- and I'm just speculating here, but I think when you are dealing
with high-profile clients, some doctors want to keep control of that and -- and sometimes for the benefit of the
patient, sometimes not, but that was his choice.
Q. So did he do or say something that gave you that impression?
A. He said it to me, that "I will take care of his postoperative pain management because I think I know him
better" --
Q. Okay.
A. -- "I can adjust it better, and I'm probably seeing him more." But I don't know that. I'm in a box because I do
the surgery and I don't see the patient until -- what? I don't know -- three, four months later.
Q. Okay.
A. That's highly unusual.
Q. Okay. Did you administer any pain medication at all to Michael Jackson when he -- when the procedure was
over on March 16th, 1993?
A. Yes.
Q. What medication did you give him?
A. When the patient is still asleep, the wound is closed, and to provide him longer lasting local anesthesia, I
chose to use Marcaine --
Q. Uh-huh.

A. -- and it's -- it lasts longer than Lidocaine.

Q. What type of medication is Marcaine?
A. It's an injectable local anesthetic.
Q. Okay. So it's not -- it's not technically a pain medication for, like, an analgesic?
A. It's -- it blocks the local pain.
Q. Okay.
A. It just lasts longer.
Q. Did you prescribe any medication to Michael Jackson after the March 16th, 1993, procedure?
A. No.
Q. In your opinion, was the procedure -- the March 16th, 1993, procedure -- a painful procedure?
THE WITNESS: Sub -- when he's recovering?
BY MR. ROSENBERG:
Q. Yes.
A. Yes.
Q. Okay. How long for the typical patient would the pain last after that kind of surgery?
A. Six weeks.
Q. Six weeks. So the next entry is April 21st, 1993. Had you -- did you see Michael Jackson at all after that
March 16th, 1993, surgery?
A. No.
Q. In the immediate period, you did not?
A. No.
Q. And that was unusual?
A. It was at the request of -- as best as I can recall, of Mr. Jackson and Dr. Hoefflin. It was easier because he
would have to come to Pasadena and Dr. Hoefflin felt that he could take care of him.
Q. Okay. Can you read the June 30th, 1993, entry.
A. "I saw Mr. Jackson for my first postoperative visit with" Dr. -- "at Dr. Klein's office. Mr. Jackson was
experiencing significant postoperative pain because of his performance and practice schedule. Mr. Jackson" -- I
was told -- "needed to wear a hairpiece to camouflage the healing surgical site. I suggested to Mr. Jackson and

Debbie and his weaver that the area should be exposed to air as much as possible to prevent undue perspiration
to the newly" formed -- "forming scar. My measurement of" the "new...scar was about 2.5 centimeters" wide
"and about 10 centimeters" long. "I prescribed Keflex" -- which is an antibiotic -- "twice daily for" about "7
days, T-stat" -- which is an astringent to clean the wound -- "and topical garamycin ointment" -- as a topical way
of treating any surface bacteria. From what I was told: "Mr. Jackson and" Mr. -- "and Dr. Klein were pleased by
the first surgery..." And at that time requested I consider performing a second revision surgery to make it better.
Can you read the July 3rd, 1993, entry on -- in Exhibit 3.
A. July 3rd?
Q. July 3rd, 1993.
A. In mine?
Q. Yeah. It's at the top of the --
A. Oh.
Q. -- the third page.
A. Yeah. "I prescribed Percocet for Mr. Jackson through Dr. Klein's request for pain control at his post-surgical
site with" -- Talking to Dr. Klein, his concurrence.
Q. Was this the first time you had prescribed medication for Michael Jackson?
A. Yes.
Q. Okay. So let me refine the question. Was this the first time you had prescribed pain -- well -- sorry. Let me
go back. What is Percocet?
A. It's -- I'm not sure, but it's a narcotic --
Q. Uh-huh.
A. -- and it's one of the stronger middle kinds of -- not stronger but a middle type of pain relief analgesic.
Q. Okay. And so was this the first time you had prescribed pain medication for Michael Jackson?
A. That's correct.
Q. How did you decide to prescribe Percocet for Michael Jackson?
A. In speaking with Dr. Klein -- and Dr. Klein knows his pain status better than I do -- that was what he had
suggested that I prescribe for him.
Q. All right. Let's move to the July 20th, 1993, entry. Can you read that, please.
A. "Another request for Percocet from Mr. Jackson for pain control at his surgical site during strenuous
rehearsals. I prescribed this with the knowledge of Dr. Klein."
Q. Okay. How did you receive the request for Percocet from Michael Jackson?

A. I don't know. I assume I probably got a phone call from Dr. Klein because Michael Jackson would never --
he would never call me.
Q. Do you know whether Dr. Klein had the ability to prescribe medications like Percocet?
A. I don't know. He's a doctor.
Q. So did you, in fact, prescribe Percocet for Michael Jackson?
A. Yes.
Q. And was this the second time you had prescribed Percocet for Michael Jackson?
A. That's correct.
Q. Was Percocet the only pain medication you had prescribed to Michael Jackson at this time, July 20th, 1993?
A. Correct.
Q. Okay. All right. Let's look at the next entry on page 3 of Exhibit 4, your summary, August 10th, 1993. Can
you read that, please.
A. "I received a phone call from Dr. Klein that Mr. Jackson was experiencing significant post-operative pain
along his scalp scar. Reassured Dr. Klein that the post-operative pain was expected to be more significant
between the fourth and sixth weeks after surgery because" the nerves are coming back, and "Dr. Klein expressed
concern of his pain pattern" -- pattern -- "that was being exacerbated by his performance schedule. I suggested
to Dr. Klein that Mr. Jackson be seen by a certified pain specialist with possible biofeedback treatments."
Q. I'll stop you there for a second. I think this might be consistent with what Mr. O'Keefe was saying that it says
four to six weeks after surgery. So would that be consistent with you performing a surgery on Michael Jackson
in July 1993?
A. It sounds like it, yes.
Q. Okay. Why did you reassure Dr. Klein that Michael Jackson's postoperative pain was going to be more
significant during four to six weeks?
A. That's the usual recovery sensation to any incision. That's when inflammation occurs from the cellular
standpoint. So things get very inflamed, and people experience more pain at that time.
Q. Okay. Why did you suggest to Dr. Klein that Michael Jackson be seen by a certified pain specialist?
A. I was concerned about the pain patterns that he's having and continuation of Percocet.
Q. But was he taking enough that you were concerned?
A. Yes.
Q. Okay.
A. Based on my prescriptions that I gave him.

Q. Okay. So on August 10th, 1993, you were concerned that Michael Jackson was taking too much Percocet; is
that right?
A. Correct.
Q. And to your knowledge, were you the only person who was prescribing Percocet to Michael Jackson before
August 10th, 1993?
A. I don't know.
Q. Do you remember how much Percocet you described each time?
A. 45.
Q. 45 -- how much -- is that 45 milligrams?
A. 45 tablets.
Q. Oh, 45 tablets each time you --
A. Uh-huh.
Q. -- gave him a prescription?
A. Right.
Q. How much is in each tablet?
A. I don't know. I think it's about 325 Acetaminophen and probably a hydrocodone in there.
Q. Did you, in fact, inform both Dr. Klein and Michael Jackson that you would no longer prescribe him more
Percocet, because of the frequency of his requests, on August 10th, 1993?
A. If I wrote it, yes. How frequent was he -- how frequently was he requesting Percocet?
A. In this one time interval, it was on July 3rd, July 20th, August 10th.
Q. Okay. And so in your opinion, that's a very frequent request for Percocet?
A. Frequent. What was Dr. Klein's response when you told him you would no longer prescribe more Percocet
for Michael Jackson?
A. "I'll take care of it."
Q. And let's move head to page 4 of Exhibit 4, your summary. Do you see the August 15th, 1993, entry?
A. Yes.
Q. Can you read that entry, please?
A. "I visited Mr. Jackson at his LA home and injected his scalp with intralesional steroids" -- which is Kenolog
anti-inflammatory -- "and .5% Marcaine local anesthetic block for the neuromatous pain along the scar line" --

it says "in Dr. Klein's office." It can't be in Dr. Klein's office. I visited him at his home. It says I visited at his
home. And: "I gave Mr. Jackson IM Demerol" 50 -- "IM Demerol and 50 milligrams of Vistaril for pain. Dr.
Klein consulted on phone and advised on pain management."
Q. You see the date at the top of -- the top entry? Is that August 15th, 1993?
A. Correct.
Q. Could you read that entry.
A. "Saw patient at 12:00 noon through about 2" -- "2:00, 2:50" -- something like that. Probably 12:00 to 2:00 --
"with Debbie Rowe, the registered nurse, complaining of pain to scar area. Area had healed completely but
injected the scar with a Lidocaine and epinephrine for pain relief along the scar line" -- And gave him what's
called a supraorbital nerve block because the nerve here goes back to here --
Q. Uh-huh.
A. -- so the nerve wouldn't
MR. O'KEEFE: Indicating forehead back towards the
THE WITNESS: Yeah.
MR. O'KEEFE: -- top of the head.
THE WITNESS: And then I gave him at that time, which is in my summary thing, the Demerol and the
Vistaril, and that was done with consultation with Dr. Klein on the phone and advised pain specialists again to
see -- to see him.
Q. And how much Demerol does it say there?
A. 100.
Q.
A. hundred milligrams?
A. Milligrams.
Q. I want to turn your attention to -- and this is going to connect. These are going to connect, but can you look
at SASAKI107. It is the second to last page of Exhibit 3. Do you recognize the documents on SASAKI107?
A. Prescription.
Q. Okay. There appears to be two prescriptions on this page, both from the office of Gordon Sasaki, M.D. Do
you see that?
A. Correct.
Q. Are the prescriptions on SASAKI107 from your office?
A. Yes.

Q. Did you fill out the prescriptions on SASAKI107?

A. Yes.
Q. Let's look at the prescription at the bottom of the page. The name on the prescription is Omar Arnold. Does
that refer to Michael Jackson?
A. Correct.
Q. So this prescription at the bottom of SASAKI107 is for Michael Jackson?
A. Correct.
Q. Can you read what the prescription is for.
A. Intramuscular Demerol No. 2, 100 ampule -- 100 milligram ampule, 50 milligrams IM every four to six
hours as needed.
Q. Okay. And you filled out this prescription on August 15th, 1993?
A. Correct.
Q. There's a signature on the prescription. Is that your signature?
A. That's correct.
Q. Okay. And was this the first time you had ever given Michael Jackson Demerol?
A. Yes, and the last.
Q. Okay. When do you normally prescribe Demerol?
A. When the pain is just so significant that it starts to alter their lifestyle.
Q. Uh-huh.
A. We don't do it for chronic pain. We just do it for acute pain because that's not a good idea.
Q. It's not a good idea to give someone Demerol for chronic pain?
A. No.
Q. Why do you say that?
A. The habitation, I would think.
Q. "Of the thing," are you referring to Demerol?
A. Uh-huh.
Q. Did Michael Jackson ask you any questions about Demerol when you give it to him?

A. No.
Q. Did he tell you whether he had had Demerol before?
A. No.
Q. Did you discuss the addiction potential of Demerol with Michael Jackson?
A. No.
Q. "IM" stand for intramuscular; right?
A. Correct.
Q. Did you give Michael Jackson any kind of instructions on how to take Demerol?
A. I gave it to him.
Q. You gave it to him through injection?
A. Uh-huh.
Q. Was Demerol a common medication in your practice when you treated Michael Jackson?
A. No.
Q. About how often would you prescribe Demerol to someone?
A. None.
Q. In your entire career?
A. None, because we just don't do that kind of surgeries that the pain pattern is such that it requires that.
Q. Okay. So other that Michael Jackson, had you administered Demerol to anyone?
A. No.
Q. Michael Jackson was the only person you have ever administered Demerol to?
A. Correct.
Q. Dr. Klein told you he was concerned about Michael Jackson's performance and rehearsal schedules for a
world tour; is that correct?
A. Correct. I would like to enter into the record as Exhibit 5. It's a two-page document. (Exhibit 5 was marked
for identification by the reporter and is attached hereto.)
Q. Exhibit 5 is an Associated Press article dated December 22nd, 1993. The "Headline" is "Text of TV
Statement by Pop Singer Michael Jackson." Do you remember Michael Jackson making a video-recorded
statement --

A. No.
Q. -- in early 1990s?
A. No.
Q. No. Can you read the first paragraph of the article.
A. "I am doing well...I am strong. As you may already know, my tour ended" and "I remained out of the country
undergoing treatment for a dependency on pain medication. This medication was initially prescribed to soothe
the excruciating pain that I was suffering after recent reconstructive surgery on my scalp."
Q. So are you not familiar with Michael Jackson's 1993 announcement contained in this article?
A. No.
Q. Did you ever become aware that Michael Jackson was dependent on prescription main -- prescription pain
medication?
A. No.
Q. So you have no idea what prescription pain medication Michael Jackson was dependent on?
A. I am totally ignorant on that.
Q. Okay. Did you have any conversations, in your treatment of Michael Jackson, with Michael Jackson about
any dependency on pain medication?
A. No.
Q. Okay. So after May 28th, 1998, did you ever treat Michael Jackson?
A. I have never saw him again.
Q. And the last time you provided medical treatment to Michael Jackson was in May 1998?
A. Yeah, about 15 years ago.
Q. Okay. And that was of the last time you saw him?
A. Last time I saw him.
Q. When was the last time you spoke to Michael Jackson?
A. That same time.
Q. Okay. So you -- after May 1998, you had no contact with Michael Jackson; is that correct?
A. Unfortunately I did not.
Q. Can you name the physicians that -- with whom you communicated who also treated Michael Jackson.

A. Dr. Hoefflin, Dr. Klein, and Dr. Metzger.

Q. All right. I'm going to through a list of other doctors and just ask you if you have met them and if you know
whether they treated Michael Jackson. Dr. John Bornstein?
A. He's the anesthesiologist.
Q. All right. So let's -- have you heard of Dr. David Rish?
A. No.
Q. How about Dr. David Forecast?
A. No.
Q. Dr. Stuart Finkelstein?
A. No.
Ms. Cahan. That concludes the playing of the video deposition of Dr. Gordon Sasaki. At this time, defendants
move into evidence two exhibits identified at Dr. Sasaki's deposition and testified about. The first was exhibit 3
to Dr. Sasaki's deposition, which is trial exhibit 2007. It runs up to page 16, a 16-page document. The second
exhibit, which was exhibit 4 to Dr. Sasaki's deposition, is a four-page document -- sorry -- five-page document
bearing trial exhibit number 12878.
Mr. Boyle. No objection.
Judge. Okay. They're received.
Judge. Are there any corrections to the --
Ms. Cahan. There were not, your honor.
Judge. All right. Then let's adjourn today. I believe juror number 6, you have something you need to attend
tomorrow, correct? Still the case? Okay. So just to recap, you think you'll be able to be here by 10:45,
hopefully?
Juror number 6: I called this morning to ask him what time, and he didn't call back yet, so -- but I guess you
worked out for me 9:00 o'clock, right?
The clerk: I spoke with the court clerk and the judge in that department. He's the first on calendar for
tomorrow morning, so they'll try to get him out as fast as they can. But they did say he should be here by 10:30.
Judge. Where is the court?

Juror number 6: it's Eastlake. It's four and a half miles from here.
Judge. Hopefully you can be here by the 10:45. Okay.
The clerk: and the district attorney is aware of the situation, so he's first on calendar tomorrow.
Judge. It should work out. So 10:45 everybody.
(the following proceedings were held in open court, outside the presence of the jurors:)
Judge. Any reason why I need you here early?
Mr. Panish. No.
Ms. Cahan. I don't anticipate that we'll be ready to argue any of the pending depositions, just given the bulk
of the rulings, first thing tomorrow morning, so I think 10:45 is fine, your honor.
Mr. Boyle. Just for the record, it was Bill Bloss who asked what the o's meant.
Judge. Okay. So I guess you can be here at maybe 10:30? Is that what you're suggesting?
Mr. Putnam. Yes.
Judge. Thank you. See you at 10:30.