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CNBC "Capital Report" program with General BARRY McCAFFREY Page 1 of 3
But first, it's been 100 days since the end of the combat phase of the Iraq war, and today President Bush said
they're making significant progress toward democracy in Iraq. But it's also been a violent week for US troops
and civilians. A deadly car bomb ripped into die Jordanian Embassy in Baghdad, killing 19. Three more
soldiers were killed in separate incidents. US forces face guerrilla-style attacks now on almost a daily basis. So
where do we stand really after those 100 days? We're joined now by retired general and NBC News military
analyst Barry McCaffrey.
Give us some sense of the trend here. Are things gettingj2£tte£-or arc -fekigs getting worse?
General BARRY McCAFFREY (US Army, Retired; NBC News Military Analysty Well, first of all, I think it's
going to be confused for at least a year.
MURRAY: A year?
McCAFFREY: Yeah. The good news is—the good news is all sorts of the economic and political underlying
factors are getting better—there's no question about it—newspapers are opening, the food problem, the hospital
problem, communication getting better. The bad news is we're now seeing some very sophisticated attacks on
American troops. Many of them are foreign fighters. A lot diem are using clearly not improvised explosives but
some real training's going into this.
McCAFFREY: Yeah. Yeah. And I think it's several different factors. It's not just criminal dead-enders. It's not
just the Fedayeen and the Ba'athist regime in their dying gasps. Some of it's nationalists are now coming out,
the Sunni Muslims. And more importantly, I think we're going to see this become a magnet for terrorism. Now
one can argue, and I certainly would, better we fight terrorists in Iraq than in the streets of New York. But I
think that's what's happening.
MURRAY: Well, you say that diese are foreigners. Are they coming into the country now or were they there at
the time of the invasion?
McCAFFREY: A bunch of them were there. Saddam brought them in. The fighting in Baghdad—a lot of the
people 3rd Infantry Division were killing in their so-called thunder runs were Assyrians, lots of them, some
Pakistanis, some Saudis and others. Now I think we may well be seeing some terrorist organizations that say,
'Look, if you want to do jihad, if you want to die attacking Americans, Iraq is the place to do it.'
MURRAY: There was a story out this week that came from one of the commanders in Iraq saying that the
bounty available to people in Iraq who kill American soldiers has gone considerably, to as much as $5,000 an
attack. Where is that kind of money and organization coming from?
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