DAT

1. You and your counterparts' relations on CT pre 9-11, since, today?

2. Quality of direction and guidance from your Agency? Did they have a CT
Strategy? Do they?

3. How would you assess the quality of US - GoC relations on intelligence and law
enforcement?

4. How would you assess the quality of information sharing from Washington and
US? In the embassy (Are there redundant functions?)? From other locations?

5. GoC general organization in your area? Strengths and weaknesses?

6. Describe your role and any tasking? Process? Can you task your Agency?
Others?

7. Do you provide analysis? Describe?

8. Reporting? Warning?
Ground Rules for Interviews

1. The Commission prefers that interviews be on the record, but

will agree to conducting part or all of any interview off the record if
requested to do so by the Canadian government representatives.

2. During the pendency of the Commission's investigation, the

Commission will withhold from disclosure all information obtained in
interviews.

3. In the final public report at the end of May 2004, the

Commission may refer to information obtained in interviews, but will be
careful not to disclose sensitive information. The Commission will give the Canadian
government advance notice if it plans to include in the final public report specific information
obtained from interviews with Canadian officials, and will
fee giveft the Canadian government the opportunity to comment on the planned use of such
information, review the final draft report (at least those
parts addressing information collected during the interviews) in order to
QSSOB9 the sensitivity of the information. The Commission will remove those
passages identified by the Canadian government as sensitive.

4. In accordance with the Security of Information Act,

Canadian officials will not disclose "special operational information" as
defined in the Act.»
(If Asked)

Q. Who Are These People and Why Are They Visiting Us?

A. As part of its mandate to investigate the events that led to the terrorist
attacks upon the United States on September 11, 2001 and to recommend
policy changes that increase the safety of all Americans, the National
Commission on Terrorist Attacks Upon the United States is sending
members of its staff to consult with appropriate Canadian officials.

The Commission is grateful to Canadian authorities for their cooperation

and support for American and international efforts to combat international
terrorism.

The Commission is confident that these consultations will be helpful to its

work.
SUSLO

1. You and your counterparts' relations on CT pre 9-11, since, today?

2. Quality of direction and guidance from your Agency? Did they have a CT
Strategy? Do they?

3. How would you assess the quality of US - GoC relations on intelligence and law
enforcement?

4. How would you assess the quality of information sharing from Washington and
US? In the embassy? From other locations?

5. GoC general organization in your area? Strengths and weaknesses?

6. Describe your role and any tasking? Process? Can you task your Agency?
Others?

7. Do you provide analysis?

8. Reporting? Warning? \
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DCM/Political Counselor/Country Team

1. What is the GoC perception of the Terrorist threat? What is their approach to CT
at home and abroad? Do you think there are any lessons for the US in their
approach?

2. Nature of US - Canadian relations on CT pre-9-11, since 9-11, today?

3. What is the level of Embassy involvement on CT?

4. How would you assess the quality of the guidance/direction you receive from
Washington from various agencies?

5. How would you assess the quality of the US - Canadian intelligence and law
enforcement relationships?

6. How would you assess the commitment of the GoC in support of US CT efforts at
home and abroad?

7. How is the border security? Has there been progress? What are our/their future
concerns?
LEGAT

1. You and your counterparts' relations on CT pre 9-11, since, today?

2. Quality of direction and guidance from your Agency? Did they have a CT
Strategy? Do they?

3. How would you assess the quality of US - GoC relations on intelligence and law
enforcement?

4. How would you assess the quality of information sharing from Washington and
US? In the embassy (Are there redundant functions?)? From other locations?

5. GoC general organization in your area? Strengths and weaknesses?

6. Describe your role and any tasking? Process? Can you task your Agency?
Others?

7. Do you provide analysis? Describe?

8. Reporting? Warning?
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ATTACHED ARE DRAFT QUESTIONS FOR OUR CANADIAN INTERLOCUTORS.

WE SHOULD RECEIVE QUESTIONS REGARDING TERRORIST FINANCE FROM
TEAM 4.

IS SUSAN SENDING US QUESTIONS FOR REGARDING IMMIGRATION?

I WOULD BE GRATEFUL IF SOMEONE WOULD BRING A COPY OF THE FINAL

VERSIONS OF THESE QUESTIONS TO OTTAWA FOR ME.

THIS DOCUMENT IS CALLED "QUESTIONS FOR CANADA TRIP" AND IS IN

THE "INTERVIEW" SUBFOLDER OF THE TEAM 2 FOLDER.

THANK YOU.

GORDON

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Questions for Canadian Governmental Entities

PCO's Deputy Intelligence Coordinator

> Who has the responsibility, authority, and accountability for counterterrorism in
the Canadian government in general and Canadian intelligence in particular?
> Is there is a single person with complete control (including budgetary execution)
over Canadian intelligence?
> Does Canada have an overall strategy for counterterrorism?
> What Canadian governmental entities are involved in counterterrorism, and how
is interagency coordination accomplished? u, : U',..*'. ,-,..- -^ '• <. -£ ,u \t
Why did Canada separate law enforcement from domestic intelligence? ft
Who is responsible for warning on terrorism?
Is Canadian intelligence a "learning organization?"
Does the rise of transnational threats such as terrorism and proliferation
necessitate fundamental changes in government organization and functioning?
What is the nature of Canadian intelligence's liaison relationship with the U.S.?

Canadian Customs and Revenue Agency ___.

> Who in the Canadian government is responsible^fbf^radicating terrc
financing, and what is the Agency's role and/Strategy jx) this?
> What is the Agency's strategy for border security,-an4-hew-rfo"es the Agency
balance border security with the need to ensure efficient transit of cargo?
> How does the Agency cooperate with other parts of the Canadian government -
and particularly Canadian intelligence - concerning counterterrorism?
> How does the Agency cooperate with U.S. government institutions such as the
Customs Service?
> How does the Agency interact with the private sector, both U.S. and Canadian?

PCO's Intelligence Coordinator (Oversight)

> What is the mechanism by which the Prime Minister sets priorities for Canadian
intelligence, and how often are those priorities updated?
> How does the Prime Minister conduct oversight of Canadian intelligence?
How does the Prime Minister ensure that Canadian intelligence is devoting
resources to the Prime Minister's priorities?
How does Canadian intelligence perform strategic and tactical warning?
What does the political leadership consider to be reasonable expectations
regarding Canadian intelligence's performance?
How are relations between Canadian intelligence and Parliamentary overseers
handled?
Does Canadian intelligence conduct lessons-learned?

• Department of Finance
[WILL BE SUPPLIED BY TEAM 4 ON FRIDAY -1 TALKED TO SERENA
ON THURSDAY ABOUT IT]

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CSE
> How is CSE tasked, and how does CSE balance between defense and 'national'
priorities?
> What priority is counterterrorism for CSE?
> Who conducts all-sources analysis using information acquired by CSE?
> What is the relationship between CSE and other parts of the Canadian
government such as Canadian intelligence?
> How is CSE responding to the increasing complexity and multiplicity of
telecommunications media? ^^ ^
> How does CSE cooperate with WSMs and other partners?
> What laws govern CSE operations domestically? -4"A-~~-as!Uvx^-^ «J2^o^C,^^.
<v . ' '

Dept. of National Defense

> What is DND's role in Canada's counterterrorist activities?
> Are there limitations on DND's role domestically that are akin to the U.S. posse
commitatus act, which limits the U.S. Department of Defense's role in domestic
law enforcement?
> Does the DND conduct its own analysis of counterterrorism-related intelligence
information?
> Is the DND's focus solely on force protection, or does it have a more 'national'
focus as well? \}S> >«!> ^4
> What is DND's relationship to"*NORAD and NORTHCON^yis-a-vis the
counterterrorism mission? A^u-S
> What is DND's role in the warning process?
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CSIS
> Why did Canada separate law enforcement from domestic intelligence?
> What priority is counterterrorism for CSIS?
> Does CSIS have a strategy for counterterrorism?
> Who conducts "all-source" strategic^analytfs^concerning terrorism, and does
counterterrorism analysis require a distinct tradecraft?
> How does CSIS conduct warning on terrorism?
> What is CSIS's relationship to policymakers?
> What is CSIS's relationship with the RCMP and with the rest of the Canadian
national government?
> What is CSIS's relationship to non-national governmental entities?
> What is the nature of CSIS's cooperation with U.S. intelligence? .
> AvU^ Q^s^vt-^-JZ-4-Sf-^—^^aJlc^ria—^- 4o CVo-O^v-C^cJ^ \C «a\f «

RCMP
> Why did Canada separate law enforcement from domestic intelligence?
> What priority is counterterrorism for the RCMP?
> Does the RCMP have a strategy for counterterrorism?
> Does the RCMP conduct strategic analysis, and if so, how? What is the history
of the RCMP's intelligence unit, including why the RCMP recently
reconstituted it?

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 UNCLASSIFIED / COMMISSION SENSITIVE

> What is RCMP's relationship with CSIS and with the rest of the Canadian
national government?
> In the U.S., there is a debate about whether the FBI's law enforcement culture
and posture can be changed to a more prevention-oriented culture; does the
RCMP face similar questions regarding its law-enforcement-oriented culture?
> What is the RCMP's relationship to non-national governmental entities?
> What is the nature of the RCMP's cooperation with U.S. law enforcement?

• Security Intelligence Review Committee

> What is the Committee's jurisdiction and history, and what are the rules for
membership? What staff support does the Committee receive?
> How does the Committee relate to other committees with jurisdiction over parts
of the Canadian government concerned with national and homeland security?
> What are the mechanisms by which the Committee conducts oversight of the
Canadian intelligence apparatus?
> What influence does the Committee have over Canadian intelligence's
counterterrorism activities?
> How is the effectiveness of Parliamentary oversight of intelligence measured?

• Foreign Affairs (Security and Intelligence Bureau)

> Does Foreign Affairs conduct its own strategic analysis of terrorism?
> Does Foreign Affairs task Canadian intelligence for support, and how does it
evaluate the support it repeives? , c ,\ _ ,j
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> Afe diplomats EaskecTas collectors by Canadian intelligence? 0
> What is Foreign Affairs' role in warning on terrorism?
> Does Foreign Affairs have a relationship with the U.S. State Department's
Bureau of Intelligence and Research and/or Ambassador-at-Large for
Counterterrorism?

• Canadian Immigration and Citizenship

>• Please provide an overview of Canadian immigration programs that are the most
likely portals for terrorists to enter Canada.
> Does Canada have a terrorist watchlist, and what is that watchlist's relationship
to the U.S. government's watchlist?
> What is your relationship with CSIS and the RCMP?
> What is the nature of your relationship with the U.S. Dept. of Homeland
Security on immigration issues?
> Is law enforcement allowed to investigate immigration violations, or are law
enforcement and immigration enforcement kept separate - as in the U.S.?

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Proposed Questions from Team 4 for Team 2 Meeting with Department of Finance,
Drafted September 26, 2003
1. To what extent, if any, is Al Qaeda raising funds in Canada today? Has this
fundraising decreased/increased since 9/11? Why or why not?
2. Before 9/11 how much of a focus on terrorist financing was there at the
Department of Finance?
a. Specific entities or programs dedicated to terror finance (either in Finance
or elsewhere)?
b. Examples of specific pre-9/11 disruptions/prosecutions regarding terrorist
finance?
3. Since 9/11 what has changed with respect to counter-terrorist financing
efforts?
4. Pre 9/11 was the Department of Finance involved in the process to set counter
terrorist policy? Post 9/11?
5. What is the process by which Canada can freeze assets of a terrorist entity?
a. Level of proof necessary?
b. Ability to use classified information?
c. Any legal challenges?
d. What is your view of the US process to designate entities for asset
freezes?
6. What legal tools exist in Canada to ensure that its financial system is not used
to move terrorist funds?
a. How does Canada regulate charities to prevent the funding of terrorist
organizations? Mosques?
b. How does Canada regulate hawala and other informal value transfer
mechanisms?
7. Does the Department of Finance believe international efforts to stem terrorist
financing, such as through FATF, Egmont Group, UN Counter-Terrorism
Committee etc., are effective? How can they be improved?
8. Are you satisfied with the level of cooperation between the USG and Canada
on counter-terrorist financing?
a. What can the US do to make it easier for you to cooperate with the US in
tracking or disrupting terrorist financing?

sJ^
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Questions for Canadian Governmental Entities

PCO's Deputy Intelligence Coordinator

> Who has the responsibility, authority, and accountability for counterterrorism in
the Canadian government in general and Canadian intelligence in particular?

Is there is a single person with complete control (including budgetary execution)

over Canadian intelligence?

> Does GOC have an overall strategy for counterterrorism?

What Canadian governmental entities are involved in counterterrorism, and how

is interagency coordination accomplished? Which are responsible for
intelligence on terrorism?

> Why did Canada separate law enforcement from domestic intelligence?

> Who is responsible for warning on terrorism?

> Is Canadian intelligence a "learning organization?"

> Does the rise of transnational threats such as terrorism and proliferation
necessitate fundamental changes in government organization and functioning?

> What is the nature of Canadian intelligence's liaison relationship with the U.S.?

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 UNCLASSIFIED / COMMISSION SENSITIVE

Questions for Canadian Governmental Entities

PCO's Intelligence Coordinator (Oversight)

> What is the mechanism by which the Prime Minister sets priorities for Canadian
intelligence, and how often are those priorities updated?

> How does the Prime Minister conduct oversight of Canadian intelligence?

> How does the Prime Minister ensure that Canadian intelligence is devoting
resources to the Prime Minister's priorities?

How does Canadian intelligence perform strategic and tactical warning?

> What does the political leadership consider to be reasonable expectations

regarding Canadian intelligence's performance?

How are relations between Canadian intelligence and Parliamentary overseers

handled?

> Does Canadian intelligence conduct lessons-learned?

> Issues with privacy and civil liberties?

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 UNCLASSIFIED / COMMISSION SENSITIVE

Questions for Canadian Governmental Entities

• Canadian Customs and Revenue Agency

> Who in the Canadian government is responsible for eradicating terrorist

financing, and what is the Agency's role and strategy for this?

> What is the Agency's strategy for border security, and how does the Agency
balance border security with the need to ensure efficient transit of cargo?

> How does the Agency cooperate with other parts of the Canadian government
and particularly Canadian intelligence - concerning counterterrorism?

> How does the Agency cooperate with U.S. government institutions such as the
Customs Service?

How does the Agency interact with the private sector, both U.S. and Canadian?

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 UNCLASSIFIED / COMMISSION SENSITIVE

Questions for Canadian Governmental Entities

Department of Finance

1. To what extent, if any, is Al Qaeda raising funds in Canada today? Has this
fundraising decreased/increased since 9/11? Why or why not?

2. Before 9/11 how much of a focus on terrorist financing was there at the
Department of Finance?
a. Specific entities or programs dedicated to terror finance (either in Finance
or elsewhere)?
b. Examples of specific pre-9/11 disruptions/prosecutions regarding terrorist
finance?

3. Since 9/11 what has changed with respect to counter-terrorist financing

efforts?

4. Pre 9/11 was the Department of Finance involved in the process to set counter
terrorist policy? Post 9/11?

5. What is the process by which Canada can freeze assets of a terrorist entity?
a. Level of proof necessary?
b. Ability to use classified information?
c. Any legal challenges?
d. What is your view of the US process to designate entities for asset
freezes?

6. What legal tools exist in Canada to ensure that its financial system is not used
to move terrorist funds?
a. How does Canada regulate charities to prevent the funding of terrorist
organizations? Mosques?
b. How does Canada regulate hawala and other informal value transfer
mechanisms?

7. Does the Department of Finance believe international efforts to stem terrorist

financing, such as through FATF, Egmont Group, UN Counter-Terrorism
Committee etc., are effective? How can they be improved?

8. Are you satisfied with the level of cooperation between the USG and Canada
on counter-terrorist financing?
a. What can the US do to make it easier for you to cooperate with the US in
tracking or disrupting terrorist financing?

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 UNCLASSIFIED / COMMISSION SENSITIVE

Questions for Canadian Governmental Entities

CSE

> How is CSE tasked, and how does CSE balance between defense and 'national'
priorities?

What priority is counterterrorism for CSE?

Who conducts all-sources analysis using information acquired by CSE?

> What is the relationship between CSE and other parts of the Canadian
government such as Canadian intelligence?

> How is CSE responding to the increasing complexity and multiplicity of

telecommunications media?

> How does CSE cooperate with the U.S. and other partners?

> What laws govern CSE operations domestically? Information sharing with
provincial and local authorities.

UNCLASSIFIED / COMMISSION SENSITIVE

 UNCLASSIFIED / COMMISSION SENSITIVE

Questions for Canadian Governmental Entities

• Dept. of National Defense

> What is DND's role in Canada's counterterrorist activities?

> Are there limitations on DND's role domestically that are akin to the U.S. posse
commitatus act, which limits the U.S. Department of Defense's role in domestic
law enforcement?

> Does the DND conduct its own analysis of counterterrorism-related intelligence
information?

Is the DND's focus solely on force protection, or does it have a more 'national'
focus as well?

> What is DND's relationship to U.S. DOD and NORAD and NORTHCOM and
DHS vis-a-vis the counterterrorism mission?

> What is DND's role in the warning process?

> Relationship to the provinces?

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 UNCLASSIFIED / COMMISSION SENSITIVE

Questions for Canadian Governmental Entities

CSIS

> Why did Canada separate law enforcement from domestic intelligence?

> What priority is counterterrorism for CSIS?

> Does CSIS have a strategy for counterterrorism?

> Who conducts "all-source" strategic intelligence analysis concerning terrorism,

and does counterterrorism analysis require a distinct tradecraft?

> How does CSIS conduct warning on terrorism?

> What is CSIS's relationship to policymakers?

> What is CSIS's relationship with the RCMP and with the rest of the Canadian
national government?

> What is CSIS's relationship to non-national governmental entities?

> What is the nature of CSIS's cooperation with U.S. intelligence?

> Any connection/relation to provincial and local governments?

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 UNCLASSIFIED / COMMISSION SENSITIVE

Questions for Canadian Governmental Entities

RCMP

> Why did Canada separate law enforcement from domestic intelligence?

> What priority is counterterrorism for the RCMP?

> Does the RCMP have a strategy for counterterrorism?

> Does the RCMP conduct strategic analysis, and if so, how? What is the history
of the RCMP's intelligence unit, including why the RCMP recently
reconstituted it?

> What is RCMP's relationship with CSIS and with the rest of the Canadian
national government?

In the U.S., there is a debate about whether the FBI's law enforcement culture
and posture can be changed to a more prevention-oriented culture; does the
RCMP face similar questions regarding its law-enforcement-oriented culture?

> What is the RCMP's relationship to non-national governmental entities?

> What is the nature of the RCMP's cooperation with U.S. law enforcement?

UNCLASSIFIED / COMMISSION SENSITIVE

 UNCLASSIFIED / COMMISSION SENSITIVE

Questions for Canadian Governmental Entities

Security Intelligence Review Committee

> What is the Committee's jurisdiction and history, and what are the rules for
membership? What staff support does the Committee receive?

How does the Committee relate to other committees with jurisdiction over parts
of the Canadian government concerned with national and homeland security?

What are the mechanisms by which the Committee conducts oversight of the
Canadian intelligence apparatus?

What influence does the Committee have over Canadian intelligence's

counterterrorism activities?

How is the effectiveness of Parliamentary oversight of intelligence measured?

UNCLASSIFIED / COMMISSION SENSITIVE

 UNCLASSIFIED / COMMISSION SENSITIVE

Questions for Canadian Governmental Entities

• Foreign Affairs (Security and Intelligence Bureau)

> Does Foreign Affairs conduct its own strategic analysis of terrorism?

> Does Foreign Affairs task Canadian intelligence for support, and how does it
evaluate the support it receives?

Do diplomats collect information for other government agencies?

What is Foreign Affairs' role in warning on terrorism?

Does Foreign Affairs have a relationship with the U.S. State Department's
Bureau of Intelligence and Research and/or Ambassador-at-Large for
Counterterrorism?

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 UNCLASSIFIED / COMMISSION SENSITIVE

Questions for Canadian Governmental Entities

Canadian Immigration and Citizenship

> Please provide an overview of Canadian immigration programs that are the most
likely portals for terrorists to enter Canada.

Does Canada have a terrorist watchlist, and what is that watchlist's relationship
to the U.S. government's watchlist?

> What is your relationship with CSIS and the RCMP?

What is the nature of your relationship with the U.S. Dept. of Homeland
Security on immigration issues?

Is law enforcement allowed to investigate immigration violations, or are law

enforcement and immigration enforcement kept separate - as in the U.S.?

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Steve:
(1) Kevin scheid has shared with the Canada desk (McCulla) a memo detailing
lines of questioning (a) for the USG and (b) for Canadian authorities.
(2) staffdel did request to visit Canadian facilities, but that is a request
not a demand, it is always useful to visit with folks on their home turf, if
in the view of Canadian authorities and the Embassy that is too hard, then
please proceed with Privy Council meetings.
(3) in a separate note, you will have seen Ground Rules, as revised in response
to the Canadian counterdraft.
(4) Attached please find press guidance. (Al, thanks for your help)

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