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The following sets forth my recollection of some of the events of the summer of
2001 relative to my meetings with Attorney General John Ashcroft. Both your staff and
the time for my testimony on April 13,2004, did not fully explore these events.
On June 22,2001^1 was the Deputy Director of the FBI and since Louis J. Freeh
had tendered his resignation, I was the de facto Acting Director. I was summoned to the
Office of the Attorney General (AG) John Ashcroft. When I arrived at his office I was
met by him, the Deputy Attorney General (DAG) Larry Thompson and the AG's Chief of
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Staff David Ayres. I had not been told the subject of the meeting. The AG told me he
was appointing me the Acting Director until a new director was sworn in by him. I told
him I was honored but if he wanted to select someone else that I would continue to serve
at his pleasure. He; said that I was his choice. I then told him that I planned to retire from
the FBI by;the end J0f the year* at the latest but -I would assist the new director in his or her
transition arid then retire. /This woujld afford the new director the opportunity to select
their own candidate to; be [deputy director. T^e AG told me I did not have to retire but I
told him after nearly 27 years my wife and I had discussed it and it was time for me to
move on. The AG then told me he would like to meet with me on approximately a
weekly basis if our schedules permitted to be updated on FBI matters. He also reminded
me that neither I nor any FBI personnel were to go to the White House or Capitol Hill
without first notifying the Department and that no press releases were to be filed without
On Thursday, June 28, at 4pm, we had the first of our meetings that summer. I
had prepared a list of topics, particularly cases that I wanted to discuss with the AG. In
attendance at that first meeting were myself, the AG, DAG, the AG's Chief of Staff, and I
invited Ruben Garcia, the FBI's Assistant Director for Criminal Investigations, to the
meeting. Garcia was next in the chain of command at the FBI. I started the meeting with
projects and asked if all were cleared for them. Ayres was not and left the room. One of
the matters I discussed was the increase in "chatter" by the followers of Osama bin
Laden. I told the AG that this increase in "chatter" may portend an attack against
American facilities or interests and that the conjecture was that it would occur in South
East Asia or the Middle East, but that was only conjecture and nothing could be ruled out.
I gave the AG a short (five minutes) brief on al Qaeda and their attacks on the African
embassies in 1998 and the USS Cole hi 2000.1 also discussed the level of sophistication
and planning that this terrorist group possesses as well as their presence in the U.S. based
upon the full investigations the FBI had at that tune. The entire meeting lasted for
my proposed agenda for future meetings at least 24 hours in advance. I complied with
his request.
On July 12, 2001, at approximately 1 l:30am, we had our second meeting with the
counterintelligence and counterterrorism matters. David Ayres again left this part of the
meeting. The fourth item I discussed was the continuing high level of "chatter" by al
Qaeda members. The AG told me "I don't want to hear about it anymore, there's nothing
I can do about it." For a few seconds, I did not know what to say, then I replied that he
should meet with the Director of the CIA to get a fuller briefing on the matter. I had not
told the AG about the meeting in Malaysia since I was told by FBI Assistant Director
Dale Watson that there was a "close hold" on that info. This means that it was not to be
shared with anyone without the explicit approval of the CIA. I then strongly suggested
that the AG meet with George Tenet to get a full briefing on the matter.
I resumed my agenda but I was upset about the AG's lack of interest. He did not
tell me nor did I learn until April 2004 that the CIA briefed him on the increase in chatter
dealings with the AG during that summer. They did not question me in detail about the
AG stated "he did not want to hear about it anymore" - yes or no. To which I replied
yes. On that same date the AG was asked by Commissioner Thompson that"... briefed
you on al Qaeda and Osama bin Laden, and when he sought to do so again you told him
you didn't need to hear from him again..." The AG replied... I did never speak to him
What the AG stated to the Commission under oath is correct but they did not ask
him did he tell me he did not want to hear about the chatter and level of threat which is
That summer, in addition to the meetings that I have already discussed, I also met
with him on July 18 and 26 and August 2 and 22. I briefed him on other terrorism
matters that summer but did not bring up the level of chatter.
submit to a polygraph examination on the contents of this letter. The polygraph could be
administered by polygraphers from the U.S. Postal Inspection Service or some other
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Thomas J.Yickard