UKedchat Archive 23rd May 2013 Hosted by @HoDTeacher 21:00:36 ukedchat

What makes a good observation for observer and observed?

21:00:11 CharHarAgain 21:00:08 SteveThursbyMA 21:00:03 cherrylkd

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It's 9pm. Huge thanks to @HoDTeacher for hosting tonights #ukedchat. The archive will be at http://t.co/VGbxJ8DSKK soon. RT @LPerformance: I will be there! @CharHarAgain I've written a whole enterprise workshop, which is now my baby. Tweet you Monday! #ukedchat @MrsSarahSimons We need lesson plans, but not necessarily a paper document #ukedchat @nickotkdV I think peer mentoring is powerful. Less threatening and genuine learning on both sides. #ukedchat Worth an RT: 'Is Talent Enough?' Dame Mitsuko Uchida starts the debate http://t.co/0l1WW23Q8n #ukedchat #gtchat #musedchat #edchat Worth an RT! 7 Easy GIFs That Will Teach You All You Need To Know About Trig In 5 Minutes http://t.co/58IMtMOvVn #mathchat #edchat #ukedchat @MohammedSidat Agreed there #ukedchat Various ways of observations including video lessons. #ukedchat I will be there! @CharHarAgain I've written a whole enterprise workshop, which is now my baby. Tweet you Monday! #ukedchat Anyone want to use the iAbacus for post observation coaching, self-evaluation and improvement planning? http://t.co/NsEuPI7mSa #ukedchat So another #ukedchat draws to a close and you still seem to care far too much about ruining young peoples lives. #GetAProperJobLikeMP More frequent drop in sessions rather than termly lesson long observations. #ukedchat @day_tom @ICTmagic @MrsPTaylor #ukedchat Many SLT teach 70% and are up to speed! It's horrible!! No matter how diplomatic you are it's still awkward! @kayedog30 #ukedchat @LPerformance Ha ha ha, a nice way to end #ukedchat Any #ukedchat bods who have an interest in youth employment (so all of you, right?) are welcome to join in with #YthEmpChat Monday's at 8pm When an old teacher (who I despised) said "You did everything I would never do." And I thought, Yes I've made it! #ukedchat @HoDTeacher

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UKedchat Archive 23rd May 2013 Hosted by @HoDTeacher 20:56:32 MrsPTaylor 20:56:21 Toryedumacation 20:56:18 DanaABDUL 20:55:53 ModChemist27 20:55:36 day_tom 20:55:26 ukedchat 20:55:17 Dandan7171

What makes a good observation for observer and observed?

20:55:07 asquires_ 20:54:55 day_tom

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@day_tom @ICTmagic As a pedant, I get the perfect thing...I still get super nervous myself - a good quality in an observer I hope #ukedchat @asquires_ All your lessons should work. It's not rocket science. #ukedchat RT @ICTEvangelist: Coaching during the Obs by having conversations between observer & observee are v powerful. #ukedchat More informal observations but in depth reflection by observer and observee will really help #ukedchat @Toryedumacation @ICTmagic @MrsPTaylor And make really loud tutting noises? #ukedchat hem hem Just 5 minutes of #ukedchat remain. Final thoughts? RT @SheliBB: Don't forget to come and join in #DLchat at 9pm after #ukedchat to share your digital leader news and views. Plz RT I've learnt most from the lessons that didn't work #UKedchat @ICTmagic @MrsPTaylor #ukedchat Is it perception of SLT observors that they've been away from chalk face for so long that they cant comment? @LPerformance Yes. I had to give a 3 last year - gave opportunity to re-do after evaluation but didn't want to. Painful for both. #ukedchat Lesson obs work best when there's trust on both sides. Have SLT observe with a class teacher & see if judgements are same. #ukedchat How about one 'free' a week spent observing another colleague? If it's part of the culture, expected and progressive then +ve. #ukedchat In order for the children to behave, some teachers tell children beforehand that teachers are coming in to observe them. #ukedchat RT @opeus: Observation ---> Coaching ---> Selfevaluation ---> Improvement Planning = Professional Development. #ukedchat @HoDTeacher #ukedchat in previous profession. made

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UKedchat Archive 23rd May 2013 Hosted by @HoDTeacher

What makes a good observation for observer and observed?

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me so angry I got my shit together and had good career. constructive criticism Observation ---> Coaching ---> Self-evaluation ---> Improvement Planning = Professional Development. #ukedchat Coaching during the Obs by having conversations between observer & observee are v powerful. #ukedchat Supportive observations of internal staff by others can support better teaching when focused on appropriate learning by students. #ukedchat @ICTmagic @day_tom @MrsPTaylor WRONG. Obs should be undermining and aggressive. Shd interrupt Teacher and Lesson throughout. #ukedchat Observation is important, do irregular and 'surprise' observations cause stress or are pre-planned ones unrealistic?

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#ukedchat Little for the host to do tonight!Great edu chat, big last 10 20:52:21 HoDTeacher mins: can you remember an observation that changed you as a teacher? #ukedchat @MrsPTaylor @ICTmagic I think more fear of not doing 20:52:11 day_tom what the observor would do, or what happens if not perfect. #ukedchat @MrsPTaylor @day_tom But how has that culture 20:52:10 ICTmagic and/or misconception been allow to develop? We are meant to be professionals. #ukedchat Agree together that written feedback is true reflection of 20:51:57 HYWEL_ROBERTS lesson #ukedchat @ukedchat 20:51:52 asquires_ @rpwillan #UKedchat I'm with you in that How did you approach it? Especially with a teacher 20:51:38 LPerformance reluctant to change.. @HoDTeacher #ukedchat RT @TeacherToolkit: @ukedchat #ukedchat What makes a good observation for observer/observed?
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1.Agreed focus 2.Supportive 3.Non prescriptive 4.Evidence based RT @thought_weavers: #ukedchat using ofsted style
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UKedchat Archive 23rd May 2013 Hosted by @HoDTeacher

What makes a good observation for observer and observed?

20:51:08 MrsPTaylor 20:50:58 LPerformance

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20:50:00 truan_steve 20:49:57 Toryedumacation 20:49:45 thechrissyt 20:49:23 k8lw 20:49:03 HoDTeacher 20:49:02 ICTmagic 20:48:55 Toryedumacation 20:48:49 day_tom

grades is unhelpful, reinforces game playing. Purpose of obs is to improve learning for pupils. @day_tom @ICTmagic would also like to point out that luckily I find this attitude a rarity! #ukedchat Prob be a massive distraction! We have workshops for parent & child after school that work really well @day_tom @Kezmerrelda #ukedchat @day_tom @ICTmagic Honestly, I find it difficult not to think it is the fear of being 'found out' for being slack! #ukedchat RT @caroljallen: #ukedchat I once worked in totally open plan department 6 teachers so constant observ, feedback, collab excellent #ukedchat the genius that is @liggo65 designed whole sch coaching trios with 1 over riding theme of effective feedback & freedom 2 interpret @MrsPTaylor @ICTmagic You have nothing to be oriud of til Gove tells you so. Which will be never. #ukedchat If anyone wants to comment on my class news reports I'd be really grateful :-) - they'd love comments. http://t.co/awa1OVHj7Q #ukedchat Celebrity Bloom's Taxonomy - Resources - TES http://t.co/ea1JWfnvaL great resource! #ukedchat @LPerformance Yep! #ukedchat powers of diplomacy are crucial @day_tom @MrsPTaylor I agree. But that shouldn't be the point of obs. Should be about development *with* the teacher. Not against. #UKedchat @PhilPfromSC Collaboration is to be avoided all costs. Look at Coalition. #ukedchat @LPerformance @Kezmerrelda Don't think students would like parents in the room #ukedchat although could do 'example lessons' for parents? RT @rlj1981: What can you do with 500 straws?! Building evaluative bridges for Youth Culture revision #ukedchat #sociology http://t.co/INy3DTnHdd @Toryedumacation @ICTmagic Ah but what does that make the SLT who teaches 17 hours a week? #ukedchat @rpwillan #UKedchat I agree that joint planning can be extremely valuable but observations can be useful at assessing people's planning

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UKedchat Archive 23rd May 2013 Hosted by @HoDTeacher 20:48:27 MissDCox 20:48:17 DebbieHolley1 20:48:07 LPerformance 20:47:44 cherrylkd 20:47:25 ICTmagic

What makes a good observation for observer and observed?

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#ukedchat CPD should be planned to directly support staff in moving forwards as a result from an obs RT @PhilPfromSC: #ukedchat I like when learners understand learning, can plan it, appreciate it so able to comment on what they see. Trained School Council! Has anyone had to give criticism (constructive) to an older more experienced teacher? Awkward. #ukedchat @nickotkdV Brilliant. Even better! #ukedchat @ClareBrunet It is sad that the children feel it is a reflection of them & the community. Children should be unburdened to learn. #ukedchat @ICTmagic ...changing goal posts, it's difficult to know when to be proud these days! Though the kids let us know #ukedchat #ukedchat observations and/or learning walks with nothing in between to support, develop and focus staff are totally pointless As long as the observer is genuine & the observed person is open 2 take constructive criticism then true development takes place #ukedchat #UKEDchat Benefits of project-based learning; teachers collaborate - plan, deliver, review. Meaningful, professional, beyond comfort zones @MrsPTaylor @ICTmagic Bad experiences - not getting feedback, too negative etc. If attitude of fear around obs then understandable #ukedchat @ICTmagic @MrsPTaylor SET should be seen once a term at mist from afar. Know your place. #ukedchat Thought so. I'm not sure if this would work in sec as kids have different relations with parents by then? @Kezmerrelda @day_tom #ukedchat RT @TeacherToolkit: #ukedchat What makes a good observation for observer/observed? Try this: Formal Observation template #Ofsted criteria http://t.co/OUTucGBgfZ Observations help, but best way to improve is plan together, teach, evaluate/improve, then teach again. Obs assesses delivery only #ukedchat Could learning walks maintain standards rather than observations offering only a snapshot of meticulously planned lessons? #Ukedchat

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UKedchat Archive 23rd May 2013 Hosted by @HoDTeacher 20:45:20 ICTmagic

What makes a good observation for observer and observed?

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@MrsPTaylor I think that depends on the culture of the school. If SMT are seen as a critical friend it is not a problem. #ukedchat @MrsPTaylor @ICTmagic Because they are awful at their job. Majority of Teachers fit this description. #ukedchat Fab! Keep up the good work! I do like the idea to engage & involve parents. Is this primary? @Kezmerrelda #ukedchat @day_tom @lperformance primary each year group does it on a different day #ukedchat @HoDTeacher @mrpeel to be honest it's ok and most parents are very positive. I usually get them doing something active too! #ukedchat @brownh1971 @wallythebus Too risky to implement across board then? How about authentic collab on a meaningful project. #ukedchat @nickotkdV #ukedchat it's best that way I think. #ukedchat I like when learners understand learning, can plan it, appreciate it so able to comment on what they see. Trained School Council! RT @oldandrewuk: #ukedchat My thoughts on lesson observations are here: http://t.co/FOnY5AysBJ @LPerformance it's more about them being involved in learning and knowing how a school day works. Not had any negatives b4. Yet. #ukedchat @ICTmagic it is for this very reason that I cannot understand why some people refuse to have an open door. Why are they afraid? #ukedchat @LPerformance @Kezmerrelda Is this primary or secondary? It sounds an interesting #ukedchat RT @Toryedumacation: @ProfTentacles @andrewwarnerkms Pupils must progress according to data. This is the basis of good education. #ukedchat @HoDTeacher I would like to try it but feel genuine collaboration on an authentic project not for sake of obs would be better #ukedchat If PRP is to be based on observations there is a need to avoid favouritism. Have SIP observe too or colleague from other school #ukedchat @ImSporticus @HYWEL_ROBERTS @TeacherToolkit @ukedchat Or destroying the observed? Equally useful.

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UKedchat Archive 23rd May 2013 Hosted by @HoDTeacher

What makes a good observation for observer and observed?

20:41:24 PhilPfromSC 20:40:46 HoDTeacher 20:40:38 katiehall1979 20:40:14 HoDTeacher 20:40:13 LPerformance

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#ukedchat #ukedchat Best model - Coaching, when coachee sets objectives, owns process. Coach analyses, feeds back using shared 'common demoninators' @Toryedumacation @Kezmerrelda constructive as ever #ukedchat RT @Toryedumacation: #ukedchat Lesson Obs should take place with no notice by someone who doesn't know students or subject and has been to Eton. @mrpeel @Kezmerrelda Putting this to my Head tomorrow! I wonder who will volunteer! #ukedchat I haven't heard of this. Good way of engaging parents but are the qualified to judge? Goes back to being subjective @Kezmerrelda #ukedchat I am observed 5 days a week by 34 of the most critical, yet forgiving observers. It is their opinion/advice that I prize the most. #ukedchat @Toryedumacation @Kezmerrelda #ukedchat I have a huge cupboard... @Kezmerrelda Why not get them to teach and open up a free school in a cupboard? #ukedchat RT @russeltarr: An interesting #infographic of learning theories #ukedchat http://t.co/g4RN48E8oI RT @Toryedumacation: #ukedchat Lesson Obs should take place with no notice by someone who doesn't know students or subject and has been to Eton. @Kezmerrelda #ukedchat - I like the idea though... @wallythebus @Kezmerrelda I agree but not sure peer to peer is best way to deliver honest, critical feedback in real world situs #ukedchat RT @tesResources: This classroom display helps students think about responsible use of social media #ukedchat http://t.co/aWTOrb54v3 @mrpeel not normally - they do leave feedback sheets but are general. It's a bit daunting though! #ukedchat RT @TeacherToolkit: #ukedchat What makes a good observation for observer/observed? Try this: Formal Observation template #Ofsted criteria http://t.co/OUTucGBgfZ @piersyoung #ukedchat ideally so. But if PM and PRP are to be based on observation they will only get more

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UKedchat Archive 23rd May 2013 Hosted by @HoDTeacher

What makes a good observation for observer and observed?

20:38:01 NaomiKenyon

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adversarial if we arent careful RT @tesResources: This classroom display helps students think about responsible use of social media #ukedchat http://t.co/aWTOrb54v3 RT @MrACalvert: #ukedchat remember there isn't a teacher on the planet that hasn't had outstanding, good, bad and very ugly lessons in their career. RT @TeacherToolkit: @ukedchat #ukedchat What makes a good observation for observer/observed? 1.Agreed focus 2.Supportive 3.Non prescriptive 4.Evidence based I try to avoid thinking of observations as judgements. Have often asked colleagues to come and watch them to pick up ideas #ukedchat RT @piersyoung: Most helpful obs I have had are when I ask observer beforehand to look at one specific thing, not "the lesson" #ukedchat @mikallaane We can't find any satisfactory teachers at the moment. #ukedchat @CharHarAgain Yes, very useful,avoids the impression that observer is trying to 'catch out' observe.Can suggest small improvements #ukedchat @Kezmerrelda Absolutely, think that's best way..take off pressure of giving full on feedback and just informally watch and chat! #ukedchat Should the observer set learning objectives to challenge the teacher? #Ukedchat Observations vital part of teacher being a learner & continually evolving. Must b marketed & implemented as positive experience #ukedchat @Kezmerrelda sounds interesting - do they influence PM? #ukedchat Agreed @wallythebus @HoDTeacher Can lead to teachers trying to please the observer rather than concentrating on teaching students #ukedchat RT @thought_weavers: #ukedchat using ofsted style grades is unhelpful, reinforces game playing. Purpose of obs is to improve learning for pupils. @ukedchat #ukedchat feeling like its not wrong that

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UKedchat Archive 23rd May 2013 Hosted by @HoDTeacher

What makes a good observation for observer and observed?

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there's an observer in the room - Both open and reactive to lesson in positive manner! RT @thought_weavers: #ukedchat lets get it right, they r not lesson observations, focus shud b learning.If learning is poor,feedback=investigate why #coaching @wallythebus @Kezmerrelda Agreed. Tricky if you feel they have poor control or are dull but they have 10 years more exp than you. #ukedchat #ukedchat have another parents invited in to observe morning in couple weeks. Usually get around 10-15 parents in. Do others do this? All this makes me realise how reflective teachers are after EVERY day #ukedchat @ukedchat #ukedchat focus on 1 main thing!! Always key! But shared feedback, asking observe's opinion first and build on! @LPerformance obsr gets quick summary of plan, perhaps using 5MinPlan, works on some areas and agrees focus and criteria for obs. #ukedchat RT @Veidey: #ukedchat encourage more staff to peer obs each other, developing each others' T&L, make obs the norm and part of CPD @Veidey #ukedchat Absolutely, led an Inset last night, introducing triads across the primary phases and based on supportive working! @CharHarAgain I should imagine it helps just to observe others. I reflected a lot on own practise when observing nqt #ukedchat @HoDTeacher Not sure about joint planning although don't know much about it. Involves observer in your process? #ukedchat RT @MrACalvert: #ukedchat remember there isn't a teacher on the planet that hasn't had outstanding, good, bad and very ugly lessons in their career. @HoDTeacher Can lead to lesson being too'staged' and therefore not informative as to strenghts etc #ukedchat @MrACalvert #ukedchat career - more likely a week or even a day RT @tesResources: This classroom display helps students think about responsible use of social media #ukedchat http://t.co/aWTOrb54v3 #ukedchat Every child deserves good to outstanding

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UKedchat Archive 23rd May 2013 Hosted by @HoDTeacher

What makes a good observation for observer and observed?

20:33:00 MrACalvert

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learning, does this start with good to outstanding teachers? Discuss #ukedchat remember there isn't a teacher on the planet that hasn't had outstanding, good, bad and very ugly lessons in their career. #UKedchat are discussing 'What makes a good observation for observer and observed?' Come and join in! @ukedchat get involved don't just sit in the corner scribbling on clipboard or tapping observation notes on an iPad #ukedchat Do you mean planning the lesson together or it's objectives? @HoDTeacher #ukedchat before, during, after: joint planning, objective observation, focused feedback thoughts? #ukedchat #ukedchat when the observer participates as a student and engages the kids so that they feel comfortable. #ukedchat Lesson Obs should take place with no notice by someone who doesn't know students or subject and has been to Eton. @Kezmerrelda We have and it's great if kept light touch and informal but have to say I found it hard to be 100% honest about negs #ukedchat @HoDTeacher #ukedchat oh I like this idea RT @Veidey: #ukedchat encourage more staff to peer obs each other, developing each others' T&L, make obs the norm and part of CPD Great discussion tonight #ukedchat @SimonWhitehall I agree completely for performance management observations. Good knowledge of the class/year/curriculum is needed. #ukedchat #ukedchat Joint lesson observations with an experienced observer and less experienced colleague help to deconstruct good practice @ProfTentacles @andrewwarnerkms Pupils must progress according to data. This is the basis of good education. #ukedchat .@thought_weavers And anyway, what's wrong with an observer being humble?? #ukedchat Thank goodness! It would be crazy to cram in student progress in 50 mins. These things take time. @MissDCox @Kezmerrelda #ukedchat

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UKedchat Archive 23rd May 2013 Hosted by @HoDTeacher 20:30:19 SparkyTeaching

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Here's the link... Hook your class into some real-life maths >> http://t.co/r6U9vitngb #ukedchat #mathchat Blog post:Top 10 #startup tools/projects from #microsoft web20education research, maybe you don't know http://t.co/QEGYY5Uajn #edchat #elearning #ukedchat RT @tesResources: This classroom display helps DrCPD students think about responsible use of social media #ukedchat http://t.co/aWTOrb54v3 RT @MindShiftKQED: Why programming teaches so tmeeky much more than technical skills http://t.co/KaZHijTyxO > interesting #ukedchat #ukedchat encourage more staff to peer obs each other, Veidey developing each others' T&L, make obs the norm and part of CPD Lesson Obs: Have plenty of short/snappy activities with urban_teacher smooth transitions. Have at least one group activity which is levelled #ukedchat RT @SparkyTeaching: Fancy some Summer Term investigational work? (one condition: you need to get GeekPeter some catchphrases) #ukedchat #mathchat http://t.co/2TwkbNY2p6 @day_tom Agreed - but shouldn't be part of a judgement kayedog30 process. #ukedchat wallythebus @Toryedumacation @thechrissyt ;) #ukedchat RT @DavidMcQueen: Love the gems coming out of mikallaane #ukedchat. Only sad thing is teachers not on Twitter who miss out on them and the mutual benefit. My presentation on the use of @wordpressdotcom+@Screenr for assessment at binarygenius Tuesday's @HertsCam event:http://t.co/TnOvJ8v6rY #edtech #ukedchat Accept that learning happens at different paces for ProfTentacles different students. Drop nonsensical drive for 'progress' @andrewwarnerkms #ukedchat @Kezmerrelda @LPerformance #ukedchat no it is MissDCox progress over time for EVERY ofsted inspector! @CharHarAgain @LPerformance #ukedchat. not quite. KateRowlands5 Most feel like grading is time to perform & triads is time to take risks and try newstuff HYWEL_ROBERTS @ukedchat don't allow yourself to be fedback to in the queue to Nemesis at Alton Towers. #ithappenedtome

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UKedchat Archive 23rd May 2013 Hosted by @HoDTeacher

What makes a good observation for observer and observed?

20:28:41 Kezmerrelda

20:28:38 SparkyTeaching 20:28:38 Toryedumacation 20:28:20 TeacherToolkit 20:28:13 HoDTeacher 20:28:08 LPerformance

#ukedchat #ukedchat we have been asked to observe each other teacher to teacher. Think this may work quite well? Has anyone else done this? #ukedchat Fancy some Summer Term investigational work? (one condition: you need to get some catchphrases) #ukedchat #mathchat http://t.co/2TwkbNY2p6 @MohammedSidat They need 3 points. End of. #ukedchat @thechrissyt: @ICTmagic well said. #ukedchat Well said indeed! Pre-empt any problems 1/2 know what you are looking for, agree focus #ukedchat 2/2 Holy Moly. I better get my planning guides out... *Frantically scrambles around in panic* @TeacherToolkit @HoDTeacher #ukedchat For me, the pre-obs Joint Planning session is just as important as feedback. It has revolutionised my obs as HoD. #ukedchat @SimonWhitehall #ukedchat We have found this to be a positive approach, but has needed close work. Need to trust the observers 4 it to work Not interested in one off shows Regular learning walks more useful & build trust All hierarchy removed & team welcome in my room #ukedchat RT @DavidMcQueen: Love the gems coming out of #ukedchat. Only sad thing is teachers not on Twitter who miss out on them and the mutual benefit. @thechrissyt @wallythebus They don't work. Look at the coalition. #ukedchat Going to start reading The Owl Who Was Afraid of the Dark for our Literacy topic next term... They'll love it! #ukedchat #literacy Observers don't always need to fill the 3 points for improvement. Some excellent lessons only need 1 or 2 points for improvement #ukedchat @SimonWhitehall Depends what they are observing for. I often have inexperienced teachers watching me to get 'tips of the trade'. #ukedchat I need to have respect for the person observing me #ukedchat

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UKedchat Archive 23rd May 2013 Hosted by @HoDTeacher 20:27:29 ProfTentacles 20:27:19 TeacherToolkit

What makes a good observation for observer and observed?

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.@andrewwarnerkms amen to that, Brother. #ukedchat RT @piersyoung: Most helpful obs I have had are when I ask observer beforehand to look at one specific thing, not "the lesson" #ukedchat RT @tesResources: This classroom display helps students think about responsible use of social media #ukedchat http://t.co/aWTOrb54v3 @thechrissyt #ukedchat Sometimes there can be a mismatch, so that can require a conversation. @LPerformance @missdcox does it depend on inspector? Haven't been involved with ofsted since 2008 so out of practise!! #ukedchat Has personal relationships got anything to do with observations? Favouritism and all that.? #ukedchat 'So, how was it for YOU, darling??' 'Oh fuck off you prat, I've done this loads more times than you.' #ukedchat Sula, @sassysula you should follow this hashtag hun x RT @DavidMcQueen: Love the gems coming out of #ukedchat." @piersyoung #ukedchat Totally agree @KateRowlands5 @LPerformance Means everyone gets Grade 1s? Is that what you're saying? #ukedchat #ukedchat Observer elicits evaluation from observee, rather than immediately identifying positives/negatives. Collaborative feedback. RT @TeacherToolkit: And finally, create a culture of #OpenClassroom across the school with a simple doorsign #ukedchat http://t.co/N3fIVTabLo @ICTmagic Absolutely. Having an observer with no understanding of your year group/key stage is insulting #ukedchat @LPerformance @HoDTeacher They always have! Threshold? #ukedchat @mrpeel that sounds better put like that #ukedchat @DavidMcQueen Teachers are lazy. #ukedchat Ah I see. @KateRowlands5 @CharHarAgain Which one do you prefer & get the most benefit from? #ukedchat Huge potential for using social media in teaching. Here are some ideas http://t.co/dYPVMcsQa1 @EFAReport

20:25:59 TeacherToolkit 20:25:57 Kezmerrelda 20:25:51 Toryedumacation 20:25:49 LPerformance 20:25:40 enrich_ed

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20:25:40 HoDTeacher 20:25:22 Super_Work 20:25:13 thechrissyt 20:25:07 piersyoung

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20:24:56 ExploreGeog

20:24:53 LPerformance 20:24:52 Toryedumacation 20:24:46 day_tom

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20:23:50 DavidMcQueen 20:23:49 ICTmagic

@WISE_Tweets #edchat #ukedchat @DavidMcQueen You can always go to the archive and summary on http://t.co/gniwtLDvQn #ukedchat :-) .@thought_weavers Well how about, 'I thought the lesson was XYZ, but please do put me into context, as we're all learners here?' #ukedchat @ICTmagic well said. #ukedchat Most helpful obs I have had are when I ask observer beforehand to look at one specific thing, not "the lesson" #ukedchat RT @brownh1971: #ukedchat Important that outstanding teachers are observed as models of good practice. 2 way process. @MohammedSidat I agree the observer needs to set a limited amount of realistic targets to focus future improvement #Ukedchat RT @DavidMcQueen: Love the gems coming out of #ukedchat. Only sad thing is teachers not on Twitter who miss out on them and the mutual benefit. @urban_teacher Students should not speak in lessons. #ukedchat @CharHarAgain #ukedchat - Yes mainly commented on, but sometimes contradictory - can feel like one obs says one thing and then one says diff @brownh1971 Time rarely made for this even though it would possibly be more benficial for teachers than being observed themselves #ukedchat @wallythebus I think collaborative partnerships can work well if everyone has the same objective and goals in mind.Your thoughts? #ukedchat The process of peer review isn't bad, it's the way it's perceived which is the problem #ukedchat #paranoidteachers RT @librarybgs: @magicalmaths: Why Mathematicians are dangerous and should be locked up? http://t.co/TPNKGC7iI5 #pgce #ukedchat #edchat@MathsBGS Love the gems coming out of #ukedchat. Only sad thing is teachers not on Twitter who miss out on them and the mutual benefit. It's important that the observed trusts the observer, values their opinion & knows that it'll help with

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professional development. #ukedchat #emaze http://t.co/UiAUMNvQu7 #startup #elearning 20:23:40 web20education #html5 tool create amazing presentations #edtech20 #pln #edchat #ukedchat #ntchat #cpchat Getting students to take an active role whether big or 20:23:37 urban_teacher small always look good on the eye! #ukedchat 20:23:34 LPerformance Ha! @Toryedumacation #ukedchat 20:23:25 HYWEL_ROBERTS @ukedchat ....whilst observed has a brew! #ukedchat What are yourthoughts on weekly drop ins and working 20:23:19 wallythebus with the teacher, rather than observing? #ukedchat @day_tom Is it commented on and part of the 20:23:19 CharHarAgain discussion? Mine is but I know many prep paperwork madly for a cursory glance #ukedchat 'Can I take part supporting/facilitating in a lesson along 20:23:14 tmeeky side you and feeding back' is better than 'I'm coming to observe' #ukedchat @ukedchat an unplanned walk in observation- gives a 20:23:08 MikeFoster54 true impression of the day to day teaching-not something planned for weeks. #ukedchat @Super_Work #ukedchat it's better than "nice tie". 20:22:55 mrpeel Then you really know you're in trouble. #ukedchat Important that outstanding teachers are 20:22:53 brownh1971 observed as models of good practice. 2 way process. @CharHarAgain @mregan63 #ukedchat yes I guess It's 20:22:49 asquires_ the dialogue that is key In a sick, twisted liberal way I actually enjoy your 20:22:20 LPerformance tweets :) @Toryedumacation @day_tom #ukedchat @KateRowlands5 @LPerformance Do both what? 20:22:16 CharHarAgain Formal and supportive? #ukedchat @CharHarAgain Planning - which is half termly plan, 20:22:11 day_tom data on students and any resources needed. No lesson plan as we do halftermly #ukedchat 'So! How do YOU think it went??' Can we get rid of this 20:22:08 Super_Work ridiculous 'ice-breaker,' please?? It's worse than a bad chat-up line. #ukedchat #ukedchat all observers should remember that there is 20:21:55 mrpeel always more than one way to approach anything. Stop being too didactic... dialogue! Some observers always have to put 3points on 20:21:47 MohammedSidat improvement. At times they put anything down to fill the gap. #ukedchat 20:21:25 piersyoung #ukedchat really like the idea of @IRIS_Connect .

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Having an observer in room so often seems to change atmosphere + so bias observations @LPerformance @CharHarAgain @oldandrewuk 20:21:16 KateRowlands5 #ukedchat Can't you do both but separate the 2? @LPerformance Good idea. We'll inform Michael. 20:21:09 Toryedumacation #ukedchat Lord Sugar's hunt for a decent metaphor continues... 20:21:07 SparkyTeaching #ukedchat #engchat >> http://t.co/pp6TD4TFWh 20:20:57 HYWEL_ROBERTS @wallythebus @ukedchat absolutely #ukedchat @magicalmaths: Why Mathematicians are dangerous and should be locked up? 20:20:55 librarybgs http://t.co/TPNKGC7iI5 #pgce #ukedchat #edchat@MathsBGS @asquires_ @mregan63 Should be drawn out through 20:20:54 CharHarAgain discussion. Observer comment; Observee response. Avoid the pointless squirming #ukedchat @MohammedSidat @asquires_ @JamesJMatthews is 20:20:50 mikallaane this reciprocated with the observee? #ukedchat 20:20:31 LPerformance Amen to that! @mikallaane #ukedchat 20:19:52 SimonWhitehall @HoDTeacher http://t.co/xw4F0JkFrT #ukedchat @Veidey This is the OPPOSITE of what meaningful obs 20:19:48 Toryedumacation should be. Ominous and painful. #ukedchat What paperwork are people expected to hand over for 20:19:44 CharHarAgain an in-house observation? How much of it gets looked at and/or commented on? #ukedchat #ukedchat http://t.co/PImO5dUiEv on OFSTED swift progress in a lesson myth. I heard from Willshaw's 20:19:32 mrpeel mouth
20:19:27 KateRowlands5 20:19:13 MWimpennyS 20:19:10 mikallaane

20:19:04 ssgill76

20:19:00 asquires_

8:18pm 23 May 13 TweetDeck @LPerformance @HoDTeacher #ukedchat YES @ukedchat Good observation skills need training. #ukedchat @LPerformance most probably, that's the way Michael Gove wants it. Shame government doesn't do it for MPs #ukedchat RT @TeacherToolkit: And finally, create a culture of #OpenClassroom across the school with a simple doorsign #ukedchat http://t.co/N3fIVTabLo @mregan63 #ukedchat I do think its useful to get the observees view on heir lesson, just how to get it with out being patronising

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UKedchat Archive 23rd May 2013 Hosted by @HoDTeacher 20:18:46 TeacherToolkit

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20:18:41 MohammedSidat 20:18:39 LPerformance 20:18:21 CharHarAgain 20:18:20 HoDTeacher

20:18:20 ricklunny

20:17:43 TeacherToolkit

20:17:42 Veidey 20:17:25 HoDTeacher 20:17:23 KateRowlands5 20:17:19 mregan63

20:17:00 asquires_

20:16:57 LPerformance 20:16:48 HoDTeacher 20:16:47 tmeeky 20:16:45 Toryedumacation 20:16:45 TeacherToolkit

And finally, create a culture of #OpenClassroom across the school with a simple door-sign #ukedchat http://t.co/N3fIVTabLo @ClareBrunet I've done a video lesson in the past and it works really well. the teacher feels confident in me not being there. #ukedchat Ah. An inspector with common sense!! @MissDCox @Kezmerrelda #ukedchat @thechrissyt So do I - then Ifind myself prepping a good 60% more than for a typical lesson. Fail to prep;prep to fail mentality #ukedchat RT @LPerformance: Will observations eventually be used for performance pay?! #ukedchat RT @TeacherToolkit: #ukedchat What makes a good observation for observer/observed? Try this: Formal Observation template #Ofsted criteria http://t.co/OUTucGBgfZ Or try this informal Learning Walk template for observations; maybe even use no paper! #ukedchat http://t.co/d2Oe2RDyf9 Coaching, encourage developmental obs, encourage risks, encourage open door, makes the necessity of PM obs more meaningful #ukedchat @Super_Work Ha ha ha #ukedchat @ukedchat #ukedchat. Triads which plan together, obs & feedback worked well for me. #ukedchat.OfstedJudgements are too limiting. Don't ask "how did you feel it went" It can humiliate if woefully inaccurate @Toryedumacation @MohammedSidat @JamesJMatthews that would require someone at the DOfE knowing something about the classroom #ukedchat Will observations eventually be used for performance pay?! #ukedchat @SimonWhitehall Do you have a link? #ukedchat Be positive, assertive, confident... they are entering your domain #ukedchat @kayedog30 Why not? What are you scared of? #Ukedchat #ukedchat What makes a good observation for

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20:16:39 day_tom 20:16:34 KateRowlands5 20:16:29 MissDCox 20:16:19 mrpeel 20:16:19 tmeeky 20:16:17 Super_Work

20:16:14 thechrissyt 20:15:58 HoDTeacher 20:15:39 SimonWhitehall 20:15:32 thought_weavers 20:15:14 kayedog30 20:15:11 Kezmerrelda 20:15:07 MWimpennyS 20:15:04 thechrissyt

20:14:53 day_tom

observer/observed? Try this: Formal Observation template #Ofsted criteria http://t.co/OUTucGBgfZ @kayedog30 #ukedchat agree - although asking students opinions on your lessons can be really helpful. @ukedchat #ukedchat live lesson obs questions make you discuss with observer what's happening. Makes it feel like you've explained yourself @Kezmerrelda #ukedchat was with an inspector this week. She said its utter nonsense! @Kezmerrelda #ukedchat except that this is not what Willshaw said... progress is swift and sustained over time. Many SLT have erred here Insist observer sees full lesson. I did this rec with Ofsted. Didn't want 10 minute snapshot. #ukedchat Observers are just part of the audience. Put on a show. They have to put their pants on one leg at a time every morning too. #ukedchat @HoDTeacher Yes - especially if you want to act upon specific things...most impact when feedback is efficient. #ukedchat @day_tom A challenge for you: we need the answer before 9! #ukedchat NUT guidance on observations is really useful if caught in an unhelpful situation #ukedchat #ukedchat lets get it right, they r not lesson observations, focus shud b learning.If learning is poor,feedback=investigate why #coaching #ukedchat They definitely shouldn't be carried out by pupils. *Shudder* #ukedchat am worried by ofsted criteria that every child needs to make progress every second of the lesson. Should I be? @ukedchat observation needs feedback very soon after the event otherwise it can be lost moment. #ukedchat I don't feel orchestrating for an observation is right - I feel you should demonstrate a 'typical' lesson to reflect on yourself. #ukedchat @HoDTeacher I was thinking about an alternative word. Not sure - something around learning to learn or reflection on teaching? #ukedchat

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UKedchat Archive 23rd May 2013 Hosted by @HoDTeacher 20:14:38 ClareBrunet 20:14:31 HoDTeacher 20:14:30 MohammedSidat 20:14:30 HuntingEnglish

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20:14:20 tmeeky

20:14:07 magicalmaths 20:14:06 magicalmaths 20:14:06 truan_steve 20:14:03 asquires_ 20:14:02 mrpeel 20:13:42 stbirwin 20:13:40 JamesJMatthews

20:13:34 mregan63

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20:13:22 HuntingEnglish

20:13:20 CharHarAgain 20:13:20 fod3

How about video lessons and jointly work together (observer/observee) on feedback? #ukedchat @jogyouon Surely the feedback has to be same day? Or at the very least, next day. Thoughts? #ukedchat RT @mrpeel: #ukedchat trust the teacher - they know the class that you are watching for 20 minutes... @HYWEL_ROBERTS you're right, more targeted. I am guilty of using that question though - in various forms! #guiltyascharged #ukedchat Teach the lesson, forget they are there. Have faith in your abilities and keep everything in context and move forwards +vely #ukedchat Why Mathematicians are dangerous and should be locked up? http://t.co/jy3ghgwQUT #pgce #ukedchat #edchat How do I deal with emergency cover lessons? http://t.co/5bUSLohAEh #pgce #ukedchat #edchat Coaching trios across diff depts proving fantastic use of observation time Sharing of expertise teaching styles & resources= fab #ukedchat Not sure that an overall judgment is useful #ukedchat @HuntingEnglish @oldandrewuk #ukedchat is that the one theat got Mr Gove so interested? @jogyouon I'm awful insist I have feedback that day or it's pointless. Completley agree #ukedchat If being observed, or observing, consider these five things: 1. Children 2. Children 3. Children 4. Children 5. Children #ukedchat RT @thought_weavers: #ukedchat using ofsted style grades is unhelpful, reinforces game playing. Purpose of obs is to improve learning for pupils. #ukedchat be open to the fact that every child is totally engrossed in their work and don't knock the teacher for it @ProfTentacles @oldandrewuk I think you wrote about how great OFSTED observations were for developing best pedagogy practice & teachers! #ukedchat @HYWEL_ROBERTS True! Also, if you answer "it was great" you seem arrogant if you lead with negatives you seem under confident #ukedchat RT @TeacherToolkit: @ukedchat #ukedchat What makes a good observation for observer/observed?

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20:13:18 jogyouon 20:13:18 thechrissyt 20:12:55 urban_teacher 20:12:48 jogyouon 20:12:25 MohammedSidat

20:12:16 ukedchat

20:12:14 ChrisChivers2 20:12:13 stbirwin 20:12:02 thechrissyt 20:11:52 HoDTeacher

1.Agreed focus 2.Supportive 3.Non prescriptive 4.Evidence based Best obs are when both parties get s/th from it. Think lesson study is valuable. #ukedchat @MohammedSidat I agree - as long as they are a constructive process for all parties too. #ukedchat Passion, Charisma, Flair and Progression in learning are always good additions to an observation. #ukedchat Had an obs which took over a month to receive feedback for. Completely pointless exercise! #ukedchat Observations should be more frequent so teachers get use to the idea of having another teacher in the classroom. #ukedchat Interested in hosting a Thursday night #ukedchat session? Contact @ukedchat or @ICTmagic for more details. RT @Denbigh_TSA: #ukedchat Remove the personal. Comment of progress. Start feedback with "I noticed that ....." Not "I think that ....." Very different Have a focus, and keep it tight you did this and as a result the learning/children .... #ukedchat @TeacherToolkit completely agree with supportive - that is what all professionals should do for one another. #ukedchat @MissDCox couldn't agree more #ukedchat RT @TeacherToolkit: @ukedchat #ukedchat What makes a good observation for observer/observed? 1.Agreed focus 2.Supportive 3.Non prescriptive 4.Evidence based RT @Denbigh_TSA: #ukedchat First establish whether it is an observation of development or for development different focus, different emphasis #ukedchat trust the teacher - they know the class that you are watching for 20 minutes... A good observation for all should have a teacher knowing professionally that they are doing the very best

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for the whole class. #ukedchat @ukedchat #ukedchat What makes a good observation for observer/observed? 1.Agreed focus 2.Supportive 3.Non prescriptive 4.Evidence based RT @thought_weavers: #ukedchat using ofsted style 20:11:12 ClareBrunet grades is unhelpful, reinforces game playing. Purpose of obs is to improve learning for pupils. @HoDTeacher I think that observations are really useful 20:11:09 MWimpennyS but they to be done in right way one that benefits both parties. #ukedchat We are developing mental health workshops for students 20:11:00 LPerformance in schools. Drop me an email...to follow in a DM! @ProfTentacles #ukedchat RT @kayedog30: They should also happen more 20:10:52 CharHarAgain frequently to make them less threatening and practice more 'typical'. #ukedchat #ukedchat do people think you have to respect the 20:10:47 MissDCox observer for the observation to be of any value? I do. That I won't be 'judged' for exploring learning strategies 20:10:46 artevie203 and that we are reflecting on and improving teaching #ukedchat #discussion The observed should try to let the observer 'be'. Great 20:10:44 JamesJMatthews lessons wont need a commentary from you. #ukedchat #ukedchat 2/2 in the job is somehow by definiton better. 20:10:42 mrpeel Many new staff have radically interesting ideas that we old farts have not caught. @ukedchat as observer, give yourself enough time to go 20:10:13 HYWEL_ROBERTS away and plan your feedback. Don't do it straight away might be clumsy #ukedchat #ukedchat Those observed need to feel safe within the 20:10:04 gruntledlass process, which should be one of support and encouragement towards development #ukedchat remoe adversarial obs, encourage dialogue 20:09:57 mrpeel and reflection and remember tha tther eis no magic rule that says that longer... 1/2 wouldn't it be amazing to work in a school where you 20:09:22 fod3 aren't graded, just given help with improving your practice. #ukedchat
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20:08:43 LPerformance

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20:08:40 HuntingEnglish 20:08:39 MissDCox 20:08:19 caroljallen

20:08:10 ProfTentacles 20:08:06 HoDTeacher 20:07:48 Denbigh_TSA 20:07:45 JamesJMatthews 20:07:17 MoodleMcKean

20:07:11 caroljallen

20:07:11 Westylish 20:07:10 cwcomm1 20:07:10 perrin124 20:07:09 LPerformance

The trouble with posting old blogposts to #ukedchat when they're topical is that you can't always remember what you actually wrote. Totally agree. The focus is too much in results, putting tons of stress on teachers & students. Great for development ! @day_tom #ukedchat 'Down-up' as well as 'up-down'. We learn from each other. Judgements (if used) also have to be standardised using peer obs. #ukedchat Clearly delineate a) observations for PD & b) developmental coaching obs. Do lots of b) thereby making a) feel much easier. #ukedchat #ukedchat forget the praise sandwich. I'm not a child and I know you're doing it! #pointless #ukedchat I once worked in totally open plan department 6 teachers so constant observ, feedback, collab excellent still looking for anyone who can recommend good training for school staff in self-harm, preferably yorks based. Pls help! #ukedchat #sltchat @day_tom Alternative? #ukedchat #ukedchat Remove the personal. Comment of progress. Start feedback with "I noticed that ....." Not "I think that ....." Very different Conduct peer observations not always SLT observing teachers #ukedchat RT @tesResources: This classroom display helps students think about responsible use of social media #ukedchat http://t.co/aWTOrb54v3 RT @kayedog30: They should also happen more frequently to make them less threatening and practice more 'typical'. #ukedchat RT @kayedog30: They should also happen more frequently to make them less threatening and practice more 'typical'. #ukedchat RT @oldandrewuk: #ukedchat My thoughts on lesson observations are here: http://t.co/FOnY5AysBJ RT @oldandrewuk: #ukedchat My thoughts on lesson observations are here: http://t.co/FOnY5AysBJ Shame is become so formal & structured with focus on Ofsted. should be used more as a support & development tool. @oldandrewuk #ukedchat

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20:06:56 joe__kirby

20:06:54 day_tom

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20:06:36 kevbartle

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20:05:32 asquires_

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@ukedchat as observer, pls don't ask observee 'how do you think it went?' Raises anxiety whilst they want to know what YOU think #ukedchat #ukedchat Observers should learn to accept when they're just plain fucking WRONG. RT @kevbartle: @oldandrewuk: #ukedchat My thoughts on lesson observations are here: http://t.co/ZFJzm1AbTe >> Absolutely bang on the money Mr. Old. #ukedchat I think the word observation is a negative one though due to OFSTED etc. Should be about learning for both not just observing #ukedchat using ofsted style grades is unhelpful, reinforces game playing. Purpose of obs is to improve learning for pupils. @oldandrewuk: #ukedchat My thoughts on lesson observations are here: http://t.co/ZFJzm1AbTe >> Absolutely bang on the money Mr. Old. @HoDTeacher #ukedchat no. but always try to question to get at rationale and then encourage reflection on the practice used... @asquires_ @JamesJMatthews second that. I like observing as i get ideas too. Kind of a reflection on my own teaching. #ukedchat They should also happen more frequently to make them less threatening and practice more 'typical'. #ukedchat Don't forget to come and join in #DLchat at 9pm after #ukedchat to share your digital leader news and views. Plz RT @HoDTeacher @mrpeel Find another Job? You are an enemy of promise works well. #ukedchat Great article. Agree that observations are subjective (like art!) & that a checklist doesn't cut it. @oldandrewuk #ukedchat @mrpeel #ukedchat yes, when observing always take care not to compare it with how you would do it, teachers are as individual as the pupils Enjoyable read RT @oldandrewuk: #ukedchat My thoughts on lesson observations are here: http://t.co/ABXVIrCW1t #ukedchat First establish whether it is an observation of development or for development - different focus,

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20:05:10 kayedog30 20:05:02 mrpeel 20:04:58 JamesJMatthews 20:04:53 Toryedumacation 20:04:45 wallythebus 20:04:34 truan_steve

20:04:20 ChrisChivers2 20:03:58 Toryedumacation 20:03:53 day_tom 20:03:34 JamesJMatthews 20:03:31 wallythebus

20:03:28 mrpeel 20:03:26 HoDTeacher 20:03:06 MissDCox 20:02:54 MWimpennyS 20:02:36 TeacherTweaks 20:02:33 mrpeel

different emphasis Ideally there should be a focus to the observation, watching everything is no good for observer or observed. #ukedchat #ukedchat observation should not be adversarial, should be reflective and diagnostic, not simply summative. RT @day_tom: #ukedchat Observations are great when they are about developing the skills of the teacher. When just about grades then just damaging @oldandrewuk We can all save ourselves an hour and read this. Guru. Hero. Legend. #ukedchat .@JamesJMatthews sometimes you need to talk to them to be able to assess progress #ukedchat Feedback must b honest and informative.no good making brash judgement and then offer no constructive advice / suggestions #ukedchat RT @wallythebus: #ukedchat The observed needs faith in the observer and the results of the process need to lead to development / support @LPerformance teachers need to feel downtrodden. #ukedchat #ukedchat Observations are great when they are about developing the skills of the teacher. When just about grades then just damaging Be discreet listen to children but dont interfere #ukedchat #ukedchat The observed needs faith in the observer and the results of the process need to lead to development / support #ukedchat most important part of observation is the feedback - honest and constructive please and no "I wouldn't have done..." I am not you. @asquires_ @JamesJMatthews As it should be: a two way process! #ukedchat #ukedchat the outcome of an observation should 'benefit' the observed not the agenda of the observer RT @tesResources: This classroom display helps students think about responsible use of social media #ukedchat http://t.co/aWTOrb54v3 Similies and metaphors taught using 'The Apprentice' RT @SparkyTeaching http://t.co/4TPrFnDcmD #ukedchat #ukedchat keeping half an eye on edmodo messages as

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20:02:28 asquires_

20:02:03 LPerformance 20:01:49 HoDTeacher 20:01:16 truan_steve 20:01:06 oldandrewuk 20:00:22 ukedchat

stnts prepare for lit2 tomorrow - might be a bit semi detatched. @JamesJMatthews agree completely with your statement. Observed a colleague today, I love observing as it gives me so many ideas #ukedchat Honest, positive, constructive criticism from the observer so the teacher can develop without feeling downtrodden!! #ukedchat Observer should always ask the cdn about what theyre learning not what theyre doing #ukedchat Engaged staff and students in unison making personalised progress #ukedchat #ukedchat My thoughts on lesson observations are here: http://t.co/FOnY5AysBJ Its 8pm. Time for #ukedchat with @HoDTeacher What makes a good observation for observer and observed?

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