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MEMORANDUM FOR THE RECORD

Event: Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) New York Air Route Center
Type of event: Interview
Date: Tuesday, September _ , 2003
Special Access Issues: None
Prepared by: Geoffrey Brown
Team Number: 8 ^WCTCLTN
Location: FAA New York Air Route Center, Rokonkomo, New York
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Participants - Non-Commission: Alfred — , FAA General CanssJ
Participants - Commission: John Azzarello, Miles Kara, Geoffrey Brown

NOTE: Unless otherwise noted, the following paraphrases the response and opinion of
the interviewee. Please refer to the interview transcript for a complete account.

INTRODUCTION:

Mike McCormick air traffic manager ^ domestic and oceanic operation,with relationship
between two but distinct. ZNY center third busiest in country but smallest in terms of
domestic airspace. Highly condensedJSJimbing or descending/Jfrifferent then typical
cruise level flight control .complex dynamic.
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6 systems of distribution.A-
A-D - domestic
Sections E and F oceanic - covers a quarter of north Atlantic airspace. Works often with
the Portuguese Islands, Canada and the United Kingdom.
F north Atlantic
E Caribbean

Oceanic areas are warning areas much work with military


/\c space New York, New Jersey, pa. New York Tracon handles Newa

caj5ed generally at 18k, basically 17k, parts 19k. Handoffs to ZNY


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AA11 never intended to pass through ZNY airspace. Una75 was. Airplanes can file and
fly whatever is most advantageous to their travel on any given day. lu
Individual variables are used to choose an aircrafts routes, often the winds make the
highest difference to what route is taken. Especially early on the day. Know what the
preferential routes are. Wind and weather only real variables. Some level of

Sectors:
Must hand off (transfer com and control) and point out (verbal confirmation). Hand off
with computer input, point out verbal. In general in domestic all done with automation.

Responsible for all aircraft whether primary or transponding. Handoff and point out radar
terms. In oceanic no such thing. Everything is verbal in oceanic.

Normally do an automated handoff (preferred). You'd do a point out if you were going to
clip someone else airspace, but not necessarily transfer communicationft.. ,

Are such things as automated point outs but generally not used here. Need more refined
procedures

Kennedy IS a high and low position. From surface to unlimited. Unique to NY


Still have Tracon positions, but that sector owns all the airspace.

56 has space delegated to Tracon.


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Only sectors to the west own to the grown. Due to Tracons.

ATCs at ZNY mostly stay in the same areas, but can bid on getting moved to new areas.
Generally career ZNY employees.

Don't have super high or ultra high since most aircraft climbing and descending. All the
domestic airspace they own will fit in one salt lake city super high area.

"^Jnterjacility you can force an untracked data block, but to other facilities, no. can force
full data block but primary needs to be keyed first. On the receiving end he needs to key
to display that information.

AA1 1 would have had to pick that out on there own. That's why their visual track only
starts there. D

Didn't get that much help from Boston. Looked in their areas for the primary. Vectored
aircraft over the target and that's where they got their information from. Was not a
transfer from boston. Communication would not have been picked up on by boston.

There was a temporary wall at the time that blocked on the cafeteria side. Area f now has
new sectors, and can watch what is being handled by area e. flight data unit is the same.
Areas a-TMU about the same, but added since 9/11 additional land lines direct
coordination to NEADS and CONNER. Telcon hotline with dens. CONNER phone
patched into VICs (?). Added recordings to MOS desk. All TMU lines were taped. TMCs
STMCs OMIC all taped. Only phones that are not taped and still not taped are phones on
the area supervisor desk. Since 911 internet access at watch desk/OMIC. Headline news
at nom/NAS area.

Have ability to coordinate with NEADS especially over Giant Killer and the Whiskey
areas (south of Giant Killer?).

Q&A - request for transcripts, documents, etc. McCormick did speak to Biggio. Accident
package vs. accident file.

Otis fighters - doesn't believe they were handled or hand off. Just came into our airspace
quote. Were aware of them, and knew more military aircraft came in. course of several
days many aircraft. Officially would have both packages on al 1 and UAL175 since
accident happened in both places. Cleveland has package for 93.

At one point all three were in ZNY airspace. Pointed out AA11 to UAL175.

CORRECTION: AA11 WAS SCHEDULED TO TRAVEL THROUGH SECTOR 34 -


ELMIRA HIGHWAY (ZNY AIRSPACE).

SATORI:
42, 56.

Philsner (?) back on October 12.


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PERSONNEL STATEMENT
FEDERAL AVIATION ADMINISTRATION
NEW YORK AIR ROUTE TRAFFIC CONTROL CENTER

ACTION: Complete in accordance with FAA Order 8020. 1 IB, Aircraft Accident and Incident Notification, investigation, and
Reporting, paragraph 75, Personnel Statements.

BACKGROUND: Much of the information concerning the circumstances surrounding this accident/incident can be retrieved via
some type of recorded data source. However, some of the facts concerning what you saw and what you did may not have been
completely captured. The purpose of this statement is to provide any tacts within your personal knowledge that you betieve will
provide a more complete understanding of the circumstances sutrounding this accident/incident Therefore, speculations, hearsay
opinions, conclusions, and/or other extraneous data are not to be included in this statement Additionally, this statement may be
released to the public through FOIA or litigation activities including prctrial discovery, depositions, and actual court testimony.

INSTRUCtlQNS: This statement is to be PRINTED and signed by you. Statement times and dates shall conespond with SISO.
Your signature below certifies die accuracy of this statement. It will neither be edited nor typed, and, once signed, will constitute
your original statement .

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