diskusia

N47/419 / 19-25

dekemberi / 2011 weli

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cnobierebis Sesacvlelad
SiSi, komfromizmi da araprofesionalizmi
diskusia, romlis Temac iyo _ `Tanamedrove universiteti: leqtori da studenti axali gamowvevebis winaSe~, `preskafeSi~ 14 dekembers gaimarTa. diskusiis momxseneblebi: baTumis rusTavelis saxelmwifo universitetis profesori gia masalkini da baTumis sazRvao akademiis profesori emzar kaxiZe; moderatori: `Tavisufal JurnalistTa saxlis~ Tavmjdomare, aslan WaniZe. aslan WaniZe: leqtorebisa da studentebis urTierTobis sakiTxi mwvaved dgas. mec viyavi universitetis leqtori da vici, rogori dapirispireba iyo studentebsa da leqtorebs Soris _ leqtorebs miaCndaT, rom studentebi ar iyvnen bolomde aqtiurebi, studentebi ki fiqrobdnen, rom leqtorebis codna, obieqturoba ar iyo Sesabamis doneze. arsebobda dapirispireba leqtorebs Sorisac _ erTi ambobda, rom TviTon ufro kompetenturia da sxvam ratom gaimarjva. unda arsebobdes dialogi studentebsa da leqtors Soris. warmoidgineT, 45 wuTis ganmavlobaSi leqtori saubrobs da studentebSi sruli apaTiaa. studenti arc auditoriis gareT ixarjeba. gia masalkini: bunebrivia, Cven gvainteresebs diskusia studentebTan. jer gamovkveToT ra problemaze vsaubrobT da gaverkvioT definaciebSi. vsaubrobT ara, zogadad, pedagogsa da moswavleze, mamebisa da Svilebis problemaze, aramed ufro viwro da specifikur Temaze _ Tanamedrove universitetze, studentsa da leqtorze. CemTvis prioritetulia erTi ram, Tu gvinda Cveni adgili davimkvidroT am samyaroSi, Zalian cota dro gvaqvs darCenili, radgan matarebeli, sadac miliardi kargad mcxovrebi adamiani zis, ufro da ufro gvSordeba. maT rom davewioT, amisTvis gvWirdeba gamarTuli ganaTlebis sistema. boingebs amerikelebze ukeT ver gavakeTebT, verc mersedesebs germanelebze ukeTesad, dagvrCa inerciiT SemorCenili ganaTlebis sistema, romelic unda srulvyoT da amiT mainc davimkvidroT adgili. reformis Semdeg studentebis ukeTesi kontingenti TiTqmis ar modis. arian iseTebi, romlebic kiTxvaze, ramdeni saxarebaa bibliaSi, pasuxoben _ 150. Cemi azriT, arc leqtorebis kontingentia ukeTesi. odiozuri figurebi wavidnen, leqtorebi aRar iReben qrTams, magram ra Seicvala leqtorisa da studentis urTierTobebSi? ra tendenciebia? ra uflebebi gaaCnia students da rogor iyenebs amas. garda amisa, me maqvs kiTxva, ra aris Tanamedrove universitetis misia, mxolod profesionalis aRzrda Tu profesionalis aRzrdac da moqalaqis Camoyalibebac? ra aris universitetis politizeba? mgonia, amaSi Cven, samoqalaqo sazogadoebac ar aris kargad garkveuli. me maqvs ucxoeTSi muSaobis gamocdileba da Tu sadme duRs cxovreba, es aris universiteti. es aris sivrce, sadac leqciebis Semdeg yovel dRe tardeba raRac tipis RonisZieba. yovelTvis modian sxvadasxva politikuri partiebi _ wagebulebi, mogebulebi da msjeloben. saerTod, dasavleTSi sazogadoebrivi azri univer-

studentur dasaqmebaSi Sevitane gancxadeba da TviTmmarTvelobis Tavmjdomarem miTxra, roca dagirekaven, uTxari arCevnebSi saakaSvils vaZlev xmaso.
universiteti upirvelesad unda emsaxurebodes mecnierebas da imasac unda uwyobdes xels, rom studenti moqalaqed Camoyalibdes. Cven ar amoviReT xma Tundac akreditaciis dRes, radgan gvinda, rom am qalaqSi gvqondes universiteti, radgan 90 procenti sxva qalaqSi wasvlas ver SeZlebs. `cisfer mTebSi~ mgonia Tavi. giorgi diasamiZe, studenti: veTanxmebi studentebs, romlebic amboben, rom Cven sazogadoebriv saqmeSi naklebad varT CarTulni. arian obieqturi leqtorebic, Tumca ar vici, es obieqturoba vis rogor esmis. me myavs leqtori, romelic Riad ambobs, rom niSnis gamo megobars ar awyeninebs da dauwers, Tundac ar ekuTvnodes. aris SemTxvevebi, roca leqciaze Cveni azris gamoxatvas da verc paralelebis gavlebas ver vaxerxebT. SezRuduli varT am mxriv. leila abaSiZe, studenti: me ar var aqtiuri studenti. Zalian minda, magram vici, rom ver gavaqtiurdebi. pirveli kursidanve maqvs gancda, rom var naklebad humanuri, var ufro metad gaCumebuli, vidre aqamde viyavi da ufro meti SiSis grZnoba maqvs. SeiZleba meCveneba, magram mgonia, rom leqtori aris CaquCiani kaci, romelic Tu sityva gadagicdeba, Cagcxebs. barieria Cvens urTierTobaSi. mari kostava, studenti: roca awydebi bevr winaaRmdegobas, cdilob ufro gaaqtiurde. Tumca, cudi bevrad ufro metia, vidre kargi, radgan ar gismenen, Tu gismenen, Sedegi mainc ar aris. cnobiereba unda Seicvalos, es ki xarisxianma ganaTlebam unda Secvalos. gia masalkini: mTavari problema is aris, rom CvenTan universiteti emorCileba saxelmwifo diqtats, dasavleTSi ki ase ar aris. sanam diqtati iarsebebs, iq saubari moqalaqeobrivi cnobierebis amaRlebaze rTulia. amitom unda moiZebnos sistemuri gamosavali, SeiZleba es iyos ufaso swavleba. miranda Carkviani: TanamSromlobis reJimSi unda daiZlios problemebi. adamianis ganviTarebaSi mTavari sityvisa da gamoxatvis Tavisuflebaa. gia masalkini: universiteti gadaqceulia warmoebad, romelic uSvebs dabali xarisxis produqts, maSin, roca swored aq unda duRdes inteleqti, ibadebodes ideebi. moamzada lela dumbaZem
diskusia ibeWdeba SemoklebiT. sruli versiis mosmena SesaZlebelia vebgverdebze: www.netgazeti.ge da www.presskafe.ge diskusiebi imarTeba NED-is dafinansebuli proeqtis farglebSi _ `demokratiuli ideebis ganviTareba~.

studentebi preskafeSi

sitetebSi formirdeba. kalmisa da zRapris epoqaSi arsebobda aseTi cneba _ `inteleqtuali~, romelic erTgvari filtri iyo studentsa da informacias Soris. dRes SeiZleba gvyavdes kargi profesori, magram amave dros ar iyos inteleqtuali. es aris adamiani, romelsac ar eSinia pasuxi gasces yvela kiTxvas. ar eSinia Tqvas `ara~, an `ar vici~. amitom gvinda gavigoT, ra xdeba CvenTan universitetSi? emzar kaxiZe: Cemi azriT, mniSvnelovania gaazrebul iqnas drois konteqsti, sad varT da, saerTod, ras unda emsaxurebodes universiteti. ra Tqma unda, universiteti profesionalebis samWedlo unda iyos, magram rac dRes aklia universitets, es aris suliereba. adre saswavleblebi religiur dawesebulebebSi ixsneboda, amitom rogorc mefe iyo RmerTis nebis gamtarebeli, aseTi iyo universitetSi leqtori. Semdeg Seicvala es urTierTobebi, centrSi dadga studenti, romelic amsxvrevda avtoritetebs. CvenTan ki igive darCa. dRevandel universitetSi ar arsebobs centri da moxda universitetis dehumanizacia. adamiani marto profesiiT ver miaRwevs warmatebas, Tu mas ar aqvs garkveuli Rirebulebebis sistema. studentebma da leqtorebma erTmaneTs unda aCvenon, ra aris liberaluri Rirebuleba, daicvan dialogis kultura. studentebi dRes ar arian momTxovni arc sakuTari Tavis da arc leqtorebis mimarT. miranda Carkviani (ombudsmenis aparatis TanamSromeli): me TbilisSi davamTavre universiteti. miuxedavad imisa, rom filosofiis fakultetze bevri kargi specialisti maswavlida, saerTo jamSi,

diskusia `preskafeSi~

roca davfiqrdebi, Tu ra momca universitetma, mimaCnia, rom arc araferi. mas xeli ar Seuwyvia Cem profesionalad CamoyalibebaSi. piriqiT, iyo mcdeloba, rom ar vyofiliyavi kargi moqalaqe, vyofiliyavi komfromisti da ara _ raime principebis matarebeli.

Cveni filosofiis codna Semoifargleboda imiT, rom unda dagvezepirebina renesansis yvela filosofosis saxeli, gvari, maTi dabadebis da gardacvalebis TariRebi da ZiriTadi naSromebis saxelwodebebi. es xom arafris momcemi iyo. iyvnen iseTi leqtorebic, romlebmac raRac veqtorebi mainc mogviniSnes, magram bevrad didi gavlena iqonia Cems ganviTarebaze kinos saxlma, sadac gogi gvaxaria awyobda kinoCvenebas da sadac yvelaze met dros vatarebdi. Cven ar gvaqvs swori sistemebi arc skolaSi da arc universitetSi. absoluturad acdenili sistema gvaqvs, amitom aseT sistemaSi moxvedrili adamiani didi Sansia, rom maxinji gavlenis qveS moeqces. rac Seexeba politizebas, rogor SeiZleba studenti ar monawileobdes politikur debatebSi, is xom amomrCevelia. rogor SeiZleba ar hqondes mas kultura, rom moisminos da dasvas SekiTxvebi. me maqvs survili, dRes movismino am sakiTxebze studentebis Zalian mwvave azri. mamuka jvarTava, istorikosi: is, rac me universitetSi viswavle, araferSi gamomadga, amitom unda vicodeT, ra produqti sWirdeba dRes studentis saxiT saqarTvelos ekonomikas. es ar aris gansazRvruli. Cems bavSvobaSi erTerTi gamokiTxvisas _ vin ginda gamoxvide? biWebma Tqves: qurdi, gogonebma ki _ qurdis meuRle. 50-ianebis bolos yvelas undoda ekonomisti da iuristi yofiliyo, dRes ki yvela ambobs, rom saxelmwifo moxeleoba unda, radgan stabiluri xelfasi da garantirebuli

socialuri statusia. ilia uruSaZe, studenti: kargia socialuri aqtivoba, magram unda gaiTvaliswinoT isic, rom studentebsa da leqtorebs SeiZleba universitetSic ki ar hqondeT urTierToba. studenti cdilobs Tavisi Rirebulebebi Semoitanos da daicvas leqtorTan, magram es Rirebulebebi mainc ar aris gaTvaliswinebuli, radgan universitetSi problemebi realurad arsebobs. qeTi kostava, studenti: Cemi azriT, studentebi arian Zalian SezRudulebi da ar aqvT Sinagani Tavisufleba. aris warmodgena, rom leqtors ar SeiZleba SeewinaaRmdego. iyo problema, iseTi sagani gvqonda Casabarebeli, romelic leqtorma ar wagvikiTxa, davwereT saCivari, magram uaresad gadagvekidnen. studentma unda icodes Tavisi uflebebi, ra unda gaakeTos da moiTxovos is, rac realurad ekuTvnis mas. iseTi leqtoric myavda, romelic kiTxvas ar gvasmevinebda. davwereT saCivari, Semdeg ki TviTon gvekiTxeboda _ `SekiTxvebi xom ar gaqvT, bavSvebo?~ mari nakaSiZe, filosofiis me-3 kursis studenti: `ar vici, erovnul gamocdebamde ra situacia iyo, magram dRes absoluturad pesimisturad var ganwyobili. situacia rom Seicvalos, amisTvis, pirvel rigSi, universiteti damoukidebeli unda iyos saxelmwifosgan da administracias xelisufleba ra unda niSnavdes. mxolod saxelisuflebo partiis interesebis dacvazea yuradReba gadatanili. pirvel kursze viyavi, roca

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