In this episode Commander Divine and Spartan Race founder, Joe Desana, speak on the importance of work ethic, commitment and drive. Joe discusses his biggest challenge in life and building a business. An interesting discussion ensues around culture and the rapidly changing structure of the American society. Joe talks about the strength and flexibility involved in being a strong yet sustaining tree of this world. Commander Divine discloses his toughest KOKORO and the training coach's ‘identity.' We also learn what we can look forward to from Spartan Race!