Gretchen Rubin is a NYT Bestselling author and podcast host. Her past works have explored everything from the life and times of Winston Churchill to how decluttering your life can help lead to a calm mind. In this episode, Chad sits down with Gretchen to discuss her most recent book (“Outer Order, Inner Calm”), her writing process, and what you can learn from two of history’s most influential leaders. Mission Daily and all of our podcasts are created with love by our team at Mission.org We own and operate a network of podcasts, and brand story studio designed to accelerate learning. Our clients include companies like Salesforce, Twilio, and Katerra who work with us because we produce results. To learn more and get our case studies, check out Mission.org/Studios. If you’re tired of media and news that promotes fear, uncertainty, and doubt and want an antidote, you’ll want to subscribe to our daily newsletter at Mission.org and you’ll get a mission-driven newsletter that will help you start your morning off right.